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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 2>By from San Francisco. I'm a Sports Byline Broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts,

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready? Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Let's get it Mike semper Vv here with you

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<v Speaker 3>for the next hour talking about professional wrestling, which is

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<v Speaker 3>joining me today, just like to say thank you. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you are at sunny outside. If not, I hope

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<v Speaker 3>it's the inside your mind. Sometimes it's sunny outside and

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<v Speaker 3>it's sunny inside your mind, but on the inside of

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<v Speaker 3>your intestines, well there's a churning going on and apparently

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<v Speaker 3>much like the Mount a Loa volcano in Hawaii. Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Alvarez right now in Hawaii has fallen ill. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>second Wednesday in a row that he is not here.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a trend? I don't know. He believes that

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<v Speaker 3>he will be back in action tonight on Wrestling Observer Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's not, I don't know what happens in that case.

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<v Speaker 3>Garrick Gonzalez, I'm sure we'll have to step up. Will

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<v Speaker 3>Brian be there or not? I don't know. You gotta

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<v Speaker 3>become a subscriber to Wrestlingobserver dot com and follow along.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll know what's happened. I'll give everybody his Twitter feed soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you can check him out that way. But joining

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<v Speaker 3>us today Filthy Tom Lawler, because you need a man

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<v Speaker 3>to step in in times like this, and there's no

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<v Speaker 3>one manlier with the exception of Don Fry than Filthy

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Lawler. And we got a lot to get into.

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<v Speaker 3>Aw Dynamite is tonight, not from the Box Center, from

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<v Speaker 3>to be from. We had NXT last night. We have

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<v Speaker 3>Seven Bucks Productions making a movie about Rick Flair, possibly maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>and we have a deal for the CW and NWA

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 3>find your favorite podcast. Filthy. Do you believe at all

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<v Speaker 3>that Brian is really sick as he sits there in

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<v Speaker 3>Hawaii right now, and you know he kept during the

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<v Speaker 3>breaks of the show yesterday. He kept looking back behind

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<v Speaker 3>him at the window or the sliding door that was

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<v Speaker 3>right behind him. He kept looking out there as if

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<v Speaker 3>he was truly missing something, and he was. He was

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<v Speaker 3>missing Hawaii. Do you believe that he's actually sick today?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that Son of the Beach is trying to

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<v Speaker 4>pull a fast one on us. And if he's not,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope he feels better imminently.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you a big fan of that show, Son of

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<v Speaker 3>the Beach? Because I was, And this this is a

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<v Speaker 3>nineties throwback for people from back in the day, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was a proponent of that show, the Howard Stern

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<v Speaker 3>produced Son of a Beach.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike, I have the perfect segue for you. Oh yeah, huh,

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<v Speaker 4>because speaking of deplorable things that include Howard Stern making

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<v Speaker 4>the news today was one interview with Howard Stern by

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<v Speaker 4>none other than the man that's probably gonna hope we

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<v Speaker 4>can't see him at all, but he's in the eye

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<v Speaker 4>of rustling fans right now, and that's John Cena.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd think knowing that you're gonna be asked about something

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<v Speaker 3>like this. I mean, I know he's got the Argyle

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<v Speaker 3>movie out, but that's been out for a while now right,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was because I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 3>the show yet that what the reasoning was that John

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<v Speaker 3>Zena was on Howard Stern today, but you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>been on Howard Stern a lot and what's been terrible

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll get to what he said on the show today,

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<v Speaker 3>but people are pointing out that one of the times

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<v Speaker 3>he was on Howard Stern, he was talking about Canyon

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<v Speaker 3>after Canyon had went on Howard Stern and talked about

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<v Speaker 3>his life in WWE and how he was treated and

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<v Speaker 3>how he was scripted after Vince McMahon found out that

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<v Speaker 3>he was talking about coming out of the closet and

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<v Speaker 3>the situation with the Undertaker where they had a closet

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the ring that he came out

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<v Speaker 3>and sang boy George too before the Undertaker pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>murdered this man with chair shots, including one to the

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<v Speaker 3>head that was disgusting by no matter how you cut it,

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<v Speaker 3>just a terrible headshot. And John Cena came on not

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<v Speaker 3>long after that and said Kenyon's lying. He was never

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<v Speaker 3>that good to begin with and he was just complaining.

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<v Speaker 3>He came out afterwards, and you know, people are bringing

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<v Speaker 3>this up now, now, why are they doing that? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Kenyon committed suicide at the age of forty, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a New York guy, and Ashley Massarrow committed suicide at

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<v Speaker 3>the age of thirty nine, and she had her claims,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of you know, they're out there right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously NewsNation we talked about it yesterday, people looking

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<v Speaker 3>into her claims about being sexually assaulted while on a

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<v Speaker 3>WWE tour. But John Cena appeared on Howard Stern today

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<v Speaker 3>and once again while not saying anything about Ashley Massarrow

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<v Speaker 3>or anything specifically, at least from what's up on the

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<v Speaker 3>web page right now over at Wrestling observer dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>This was posted up by Ian Carey not long ago

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<v Speaker 3>John Cena opening up about his relationship with Vince McMahon.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, quote, I can say this. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 3>advocate of love and friendship and honesty and communication. But

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<v Speaker 3>in the same breath, I'm also a big advocate of accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you explained it well, Howard, if someone's

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<v Speaker 3>behavior lies so far outside your value system that the

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<v Speaker 3>balance shifts of like I can't operate in a world

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<v Speaker 3>where this works, then that's the end result of being accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>Stern then asks in about how he plans to handle

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<v Speaker 3>the situation as it relates to Vince McMahon and their

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<v Speaker 3>friendship and relationship, and Scena answered, right now, what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to do is love the person I love, be

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<v Speaker 3>their friend, and by that it means, hey, I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a hill to climb. There's the saying of

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know who your friends are until the s

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<v Speaker 3>hits the fan or your backs against the wall. That

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make any of what's going on any easier to swallow.

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<v Speaker 3>But just telling somebody like, hey, I love you, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be a hill to climb. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see what happens. And that's that. It sounds

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<v Speaker 3>so cliche, but it has to be one day at

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<v Speaker 3>a time. But at the same token, I've openly said

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<v Speaker 3>I love the guy. I have a great relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>the guy. So that's that. Did he really have to

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<v Speaker 3>go on Howard Stern and really take questions about Vince McMahon,

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<v Speaker 3>And if you are going to take questions about Vince McMahon,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the best that you can come up with for

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<v Speaker 3>the allegations and the situation. That's been put upon Vince

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<v Speaker 3>McMahon with all of the things that we now know

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<v Speaker 3>about Vince McMahon, after all of the NBA's settling with

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<v Speaker 3>Rita Chatterton, who for years said that he raped her,

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<v Speaker 3>is this really? You know? I guess everybody's got their

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<v Speaker 3>view and they're entitled to come out and come out

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<v Speaker 3>and say it. But I don't know, dude, John Cena,

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<v Speaker 3>the man or you know, the public figure and entertainer

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<v Speaker 3>any like, did it help him at all? Here? Did

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<v Speaker 3>it help Vince McMahon and what his images.

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<v Speaker 4>World life? I think John Cena would have been better

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<v Speaker 4>off having the trademark ghost write a statement for him

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<v Speaker 4>on Howard's Stone than what he said, because even if

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<v Speaker 4>we look at it from the standpoint of John Cena,

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<v Speaker 4>John Cena I'm sure feels indebted to Vince McMahon. How

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<v Speaker 4>could he not. He's been the face of a company.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably his dream was given to him because of the

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<v Speaker 4>business acumen and the business dealings of Vince wick Mann,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm sure he feels indebted to him. However, vincick

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<v Speaker 4>Mann has put out a statement maintaining his innocence in

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<v Speaker 4>the face of these claims, So you know, perhaps you

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<v Speaker 4>can give John Cena the benefit of the doubt and

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<v Speaker 4>say he's basing his feelings about Vince on the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that he believes Vince to be innocent when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to this situation. But in the face of everything social media, society,

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<v Speaker 4>what's right and wrong on this planet, I think John

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<v Speaker 4>Cena should have, you know, thought about his choice of

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<v Speaker 4>words a little bit better, much like actually another top

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<v Speaker 4>WWEE superstar did, because Randy Orton was talked about They're

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<v Speaker 4>asked about this very subject in a few interviews with

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Illustrated, the New York Post, and I think he

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<v Speaker 4>handled it, yeah, a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he did as well. Orton said, quote, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to say this, I wouldn't be where I am

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<v Speaker 3>without Vince McMahon taking a chance on me a handful

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<v Speaker 3>of times. I would not be where I am today

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<v Speaker 3>without Vince McMahon. But f I'm reading this, ass what

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen in read, I've seen in read. As far

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<v Speaker 3>as commenting on it, it efan hurts my heart. It

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<v Speaker 3>hurts my heart. Randy Orton, Brian Danielson, Kevin Owens. There

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<v Speaker 3>have been a lot of people who have said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>over years. You know, people that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who don't like Vincent have never liked WWE. It always

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<v Speaker 3>kills them to hear people that they like say respectful

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<v Speaker 3>things about Vince McMahon. We're say father figure type things

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to Vince McMahon. But there were obviously

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<v Speaker 3>two distinct sides to this man that you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>his core. I mean, as we're finding out, is is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty evil. Is pretty evil when you stack up everything

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<v Speaker 3>that he's been accused of from over the years and

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<v Speaker 3>and everything that we're we're finding out. But this obviously

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be a story that continues to play

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<v Speaker 3>itself out, and I guess as time goes on, everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be asked about this, you know, working in

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<v Speaker 3>the business, certainly working for WWE at some point or another.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's got to be a better way to do

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<v Speaker 3>it than the way John Cena did. At least in

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<v Speaker 3>my opinion, the story seems ever alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Meantime, you are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Alvarez and Mike Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the show, Mike semper vv Filthy Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Lawler here with you. It's a Filthy Wednesday on the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Alvarez indisposed right now in Hawaii. Hopefully he's feeling better.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully he'll be back with Dave Meltzer tonight for Wrestling

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<v Speaker 3>Observer Radio after AEW Dynamite is all wrapped up and

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<v Speaker 3>over with. If not, I'm sure Garret Gonzalez will step

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<v Speaker 3>in and then we will hope that Brian is okay

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<v Speaker 3>for the Brian and Vinie Show, the next one of

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<v Speaker 3>those that takes place, so we can hear him talk

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<v Speaker 3>all about NX in his love of the acting of

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<v Speaker 3>Lyra Valkyria and Tatum Pasley. Filthy if we have time,

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get to that show later on, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's still a lot to get into today. There's thespianism

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<v Speaker 3>possibly on the front when it comes to Rick Flair.

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<v Speaker 3>This was posted up to the front page of the

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<v Speaker 3>site by our own Josh Nason this afternoon. It says

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<v Speaker 3>The Rap reported on Wednesday that Dwayne the Rock Johnson's

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<v Speaker 3>seven Bucks Productions. Hey, did you hear back in the

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<v Speaker 3>day when he was struggling, he only had seven bucks

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<v Speaker 3>in his pocket and he parlayed that into where he's

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<v Speaker 3>at today. I don't know if you heard that story

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<v Speaker 3>or not. He said it a lot. Anyway, He's developing

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<v Speaker 3>a project on the life of Rick Flair. It's Johnson,

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<v Speaker 3>his ex wife, Danny Garcia, and here I'm Garcia will

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<v Speaker 3>they'll all produce it alongside Kevin Mischer of Michler Films.

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<v Speaker 3>The team previously teamed up on twenty nineteens Fighting with

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<v Speaker 3>My Family, which was a good movie, a film based

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<v Speaker 3>on the life of aw Sorea then Paige in WWE.

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<v Speaker 3>Flair was not named as being directly involved, and as

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<v Speaker 3>of this writing, he has yet to publicly comment on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson gave the following statement to The Rap about the project,

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<v Speaker 3>which had no timeline, included I'm not going to read

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<v Speaker 3>all this. He just says he idolized Ric Flair and

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<v Speaker 3>he can't wait to tell his unbelievable story and that

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<v Speaker 3>he changed the game and thank you for the house Rick.

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<v Speaker 3>While Flair has been the focus of several documentaries hold

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<v Speaker 3>On Filthy, this will be the first time he will

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<v Speaker 3>be depicted in a feature film, if that's what the

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<v Speaker 3>project turns out to be. Grayson Waller actually portrayed Rick

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<v Speaker 3>Flair on the now canceled Young Rock TV show, which

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<v Speaker 3>was awful, as was the guy that played Rick Flair

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<v Speaker 3>in The Iron Claw. But hey, did you ever hear

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<v Speaker 3>that story about the Rock when we haven't seven Bucks?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever hear that one before? Tom?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have heard that one. But what he fails

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<v Speaker 4>to mention is that he also hit the genetic lottery

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<v Speaker 4>by being the son of one of the most famous

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<v Speaker 4>wrestling families of all time. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Like he was gonna get opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>It was possible, you know, not everybody you know? It's

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<v Speaker 3>there was a free trip to Miami, Right University Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a scholarship there. Not too bad, not too bad.

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<v Speaker 4>But enough talks. Enough talk about the Rock. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about you and I, Mike. We should set

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<v Speaker 4>up a time where we can go to the theater,

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<v Speaker 4>kick our feed up, bring in some whoo energy, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>snack on some wings, and watch this Rick Flair biopic.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think Buddy Landell is going to get in there?

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<v Speaker 4>The real nature my generation? I hope. So maybe some

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<v Speaker 4>Scoot Andrews. I'd like to see a cameo in. They're

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<v Speaker 4>the Black Nature Boy, Black Nature Boy, like Scoot Andrews.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, you know Buddy Rogers obviously, you know I

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<v Speaker 3>have to have them crossing paths at some point, you

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<v Speaker 3>know where he had a short feud with Flair in

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<v Speaker 3>the Carolinas in the seventies. They battle over the nature

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<v Speaker 3>boy name and all that stuff. But yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 3>him and that goofy Woo energy drink. You know, if

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<v Speaker 3>Flair if they give him the microphone tonight. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>people complain last week about Darby Allen and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really Rickety asked promo that he had, you know, against

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<v Speaker 3>the Young Bucks. I can imagine if he gave Rick

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<v Speaker 3>Flair the mic tonight, all he would do would be

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<v Speaker 3>praised the rock and praise WWE. So if he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be on the show, Tony, do not give him

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<v Speaker 3>the microphone or he will think rock profusely tonight about

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<v Speaker 3>whatever this possible movie is going to be. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know we just talked about in the first segment about

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<v Speaker 3>Vince and all that stuff. The story of Rick Flair

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<v Speaker 3>can easily be told because he's lived such a long

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<v Speaker 3>and interesting life and he is so revered publicly by

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<v Speaker 3>people that never really look past the surface. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they have much like Mike Tyson, they kind of turn

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<v Speaker 3>their other their heads the other way when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to any allegations or anything about Rick Flair's personal life

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<v Speaker 3>and any shortcomings he may have.

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<v Speaker 4>That way.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you see this movie again, it's being made by

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<v Speaker 3>the rock and everything. I mean, how much, if at all,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think they get into any of that, because again,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably only have an hour and a half hour,

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<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes for a movie like this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you think this thing was? It would be

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<v Speaker 3>about brother?

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<v Speaker 4>You think they're gonna have Rick Flair flashing his wiener

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<v Speaker 4>on the airplane in this.

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<v Speaker 3>I look, here's I don't think he could. Look if

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<v Speaker 3>you're telling the story about Rick Flair seventies Lothario, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you could have there's a possibility you could

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<v Speaker 3>have him helicopter in around. I guess I don't. You

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<v Speaker 3>might Brassers might have to come on board to produce

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<v Speaker 3>the movie, But like you know, look, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to I don't want to look at that movie. I say,

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<v Speaker 3>you barely have time to tell the good things in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie. I mean, I'm wonder how much of the

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<v Speaker 3>bad they're really gonna tell and how again, would this

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<v Speaker 3>is just gonna be a goofy movie. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I just can't see. As time continues to

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<v Speaker 3>move on, do we really need a Rick Flair biopech

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something you're that interested in?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't mind seeing, you know, some replays of his

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<v Speaker 4>early times training up in Minnesota, you know, or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the time surrounding the fatal plane crash that he was

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<v Speaker 4>in evolved in and has come back from that. There's

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<v Speaker 4>plenty of people like me who, even Mike, even in

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<v Speaker 4>their advanced age of forty, missed out on the heyday

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<v Speaker 4>of Rick Flair. His best times were before I can

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<v Speaker 4>even remember. So while I've seen forty years of this

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<v Speaker 4>guy wrestling, I still missed out on the previous twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>which apparently was his best work. So for someone like me,

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<v Speaker 4>I would much rather see this than the page movie.

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<v Speaker 4>H I don't know if we need to necessarily glorify

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<v Speaker 4>a man who's been I guess. Oh, he was almost canceled,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess in some ways, but he made his way back,

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<v Speaker 4>much like Mike Tyson did. As you mentioned, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if we need to be glorifying, you know, people

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<v Speaker 4>like that but in the grand scheme of things, when

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<v Speaker 4>you look at it in the vast world of professor wrestling,

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<v Speaker 4>sadly well, he's done almost ends up on the low scale.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember who said it, but somebody said, if

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 3>you don't care about getting canceled, you can't get canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like the case for Rick Flair. I mean,

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of the case for Dana White after

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<v Speaker 3>what he did. You know, obviously, you know Vince McMahon,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's taken. Look, he he didn't either, considering

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 3>that he you know, powered himself back to helping, you know,

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 3>negotiate that sale. He thought he was untouchable too, and apparently,

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, there was a line for him. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with Rick Flair, he just seems to be unsinkable. And

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 3>there are always going to be people that again, never

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<v Speaker 3>going to end up looking past the surface when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to Flair and any of this stuff. But you

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<v Speaker 3>do make a really good point, because I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>think of things that could be in the movie that

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<v Speaker 3>would be interesting to both you know, people who have

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<v Speaker 3>been fans for years and know everything about him, and

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<v Speaker 3>people that you are trying to dragon the people that

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<v Speaker 3>like on the fringes of wrestling, or you know, who

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<v Speaker 3>have no clue whatsoever, the type of people that would

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 3>come in and saw the Von Erics movie and I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the plane crash would be one big thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think even bigger than that. We know he's adopted.

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>We know he's born in Memphis, Tennessee, and he ends up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being adopted by this doctor and his wife

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<v Speaker 3>in Minnesota, and the only thing we know is, yeah,

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 3>he goes to the University of Minnesota, but we don't

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<v Speaker 3>People really don't know what his upbringing was like and

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<v Speaker 3>what molded this kid to end up becoming the type

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<v Speaker 3>of person that he was and the type of personality

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<v Speaker 3>that he is. You know, to me, that's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>most interesting stuff, you know, that you could probably put

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<v Speaker 3>out there, you know, as far as a human interesting

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 3>that we drag people in.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, you also have the death of Red Flair, which

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 4>is a tragic story in and of itself. So there's

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<v Speaker 4>plenty in the world of wrestling. Obviously, there's plenty outside

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<v Speaker 4>the world of wrestling as well. When it comes to

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 4>Rick Flair, a larger than life personality, a larger than

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 4>wrestling personality for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>AW Dynamites tonight, we should probably bring that up the

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<v Speaker 3>BOK Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Bank of Oklahoma Center AW

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 3>World Champion Samoa Joe, because unless they've added something here

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<v Speaker 3>very recently, I think we're still at the same amount

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff that we were talking about yesterday. Tom. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you had a chance to hear that

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<v Speaker 3>show or not. Brian a huge proponent on getting some

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>things announced for these shows out there, so the attendance

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<v Speaker 3>will be a lot higher. I think we were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about twenty six hundred for this show in a twenty

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 3>thousand seed building there in Tulsa. But the card right now, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If I can interject real quick, guess one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things that we've seen over the past year or two

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<v Speaker 4>in the WWE is a big upticket attendance, right, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a hotter product. One thing we've also seen in that

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<v Speaker 4>time period is kind of a movement to advertising matches

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling of Observer Live with Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Back on Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simper Viv here with

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<v Speaker 3>you alongside Filthy Tom Lawler, just fill in time on

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<v Speaker 3>a Wednesday. I don't know if that's been obvious or not,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's what we've been doing, aw Phil's time every

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<v Speaker 3>Center b Oka Center in tuls Oklahoma. And as it

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<v Speaker 3>was going through the card here, Tom cut me off

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<v Speaker 3>there at the end, so I will read it out

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<v Speaker 3>to you now. It is the exact same thing as

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 3>yesterday Samoa, Joe Swerve, Strickland and Brian Cage against Hangman,

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Page Hook and Rob Van Dam. There's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of dynamic change that takes place with like

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Cage and Total Leona and uh Cohn at some point,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, at some point Nana has got to turn

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<v Speaker 3>on Swerve or something thing. We have to have Swerve

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<v Speaker 3>firmly in the babyface category and the rest of that

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<v Speaker 3>crew on the heel side of things. I could be

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<v Speaker 3>wrong about that, Filthy, I don't know. Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that that needs to be established more firmly because you

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<v Speaker 3>got a Hangman Page hanging out with Hook and RVD tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know people want to boo Hangman Page if

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<v Speaker 3>he's in there with Swerve. Do we need to get

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<v Speaker 3>those guys situated and firmly in different camps here soon

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<v Speaker 3>or am I just being too old school?

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<v Speaker 4>I think you could keep Swerve and prints Nanna together.

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<v Speaker 4>The fans absolutely love doing the dance, so I think

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<v Speaker 4>that can you do that dance together? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you practiced doing that dance?

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<v Speaker 4>No, nor will I thank you. However, I do think

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<v Speaker 4>you should split off Brian Cage and the Gates of Agony,

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 4>which are clearly a heel group, and maybe have them

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<v Speaker 4>do the bidding for someone else. Maybe Hangman puts a

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<v Speaker 4>bounty up, Maybe Brian Keith could try to take that

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>bounty and fail, and then maybe Brian Cage and they

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<v Speaker 4>gets to Agony try to pick up that money. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I agree with you, Mike Swerve. Definitely on

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 4>the baby face side. Everybody wants this guy to be

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<v Speaker 4>their big hero, despite being a home invader, deplorable actions

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.719
<v Speaker 4>by Swerve, but the fans love him, so give them

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<v Speaker 4>what they.

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<v Speaker 3>Want exactly and look. I you know, it's I like

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<v Speaker 3>Hangman Page, he is not exactly king of the promo.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they've kind of even poked some fun at

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 3>that he's got this new persona, he's got this new look.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 3>He's got justification. He's got justification with all look now,

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<v Speaker 3>granted he's never beaten Swerve, but that actually is some

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>justification on why he hates this guy. But he should

0:33:59.920 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 3>be upset with the fans for churning on him. The

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 3>guy busted into his house and cut a promo over

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 3>his baby's crib and left him some merch. Like you know,

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 3>the fact that the fans are cheering Swerve right now,

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Hangman should be pissed off about and he needs to

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<v Speaker 3>use that energy and fuel and direct it into his

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 3>promos because he's kind of got the look now. But like,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, are you just gonna be a Virginia Silas

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<v Speaker 3>Young with with the look here and try to be

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 3>badass or are you actually going to be able to

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 3>pull off you know, Hangman Adam Page bad guy, which

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like Roxanne Perez. You know, they're flipping

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 3>her on NXT. They want her to have an edge,

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 3>they want her to be crazy NBC. You know she's

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 3>going about it in that NXT way as it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to see that happen more with Hangman Page.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, we'll see. I wasn't sure if you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna jump in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I've said my piece fair enough that.

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<v Speaker 3>On Moxley and Claudio against FTR. Hard for me to

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<v Speaker 3>believe that that won't be awesome. We're at least, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gotta be. I don't think you can put all

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<v Speaker 4>those elements into one match and have it not come

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<v Speaker 4>out very good.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and you know what, just in this I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>making fun of ftr's height or anything like that, but

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of times people and because it's come up

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<v Speaker 3>on the show where people, you know, Brian will say,

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<v Speaker 3>like people forget that John Moxley. It's like he's not

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<v Speaker 3>a small guy. And you saw them, like those two

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 3>guys facing off and Claudio's obviously a big dude too,

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 3>when they had their face off last week and they

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 3>were going at it. It's like it is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you do remember how big John Moxley is when he's

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<v Speaker 3>throwing blows with Dax there, But you know that match

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<v Speaker 3>is probably, as you mentioned, going to be awesome here.

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<v Speaker 3>Women's World Champion Tony Storm is in action, as is

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Diana Parrazzo. That's all we know right now. We have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea who their opponents are going to be. It

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 3>could it be possible, since we've given her victory now

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 3>that they trot out Queen Amanada to get beaten again

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 3>by one of those two women.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, my guess is that Queen Amanada Go is pretty

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 4>far in this roh woman's TV title.

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<v Speaker 3>I would hope she wins it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what we're gonna get. Tony Storm said

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 4>that it's gonna be a showcase of her grappling expertise

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 4>to show Deanna Parazzo what she can do. So I'm

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 4>not quite sure what we're gonna get Tony Storm. Her

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 4>character obviously is made her career over the past six months,

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 4>and I know that she did some work on the

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:45.479
<v Speaker 4>upcoming Mildred Burke film Queen of the Ring, Yeah, which

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 4>will be coming out I believe, I believe this year,

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 4>so we'll see maybe she picked up some tricks from

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 4>that movie, and we're gonna see him tonight in the Ring.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, did you know who else went out for

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 3>that part, or at least actually who had that part

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 3>before Tony Storm did and then had to pull out.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no, you've got the story wrong.

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh really, the the Charlotte Flair story.

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Charlotte Flair was replaced in the movie, but not

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 4>by Tony Storm. It was by Camille.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 10>Oh oh god that that. Yeah, that had to be

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 10>a little bit awkward. Not for me, well, you know,

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 10>there was, I guess, you know, for those who do

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:42.240
<v Speaker 10>not know. Charlotte had a quite the tumultuous relationship with Brahm.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 10>I believe his name was at the time. I forget

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 10>his name right now.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Thomas Latimer.

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Thomas Latimer, thank you very much, who's wrestled in the

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 3>NWA and and been around for for quite some time.

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 3>There had a WWE developmental deal.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 4>With TNA for record amount of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes he did, he did that be cats right end

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 3>that that deal. COVID not for a while with that

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 3>gift being reported. But he had a rough relationship with

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Charlotte Flair where there was accusations and the police being called, uh,

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 3>with some fighting and all that stuff going on, and

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>there was talk about Canille possibly getting a look by

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 3>WWEE and coming on board there. But then again that

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<v Speaker 3>ended up not happening, and it probably was the best

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 3>case scenario considering I'm sure there would be an issue

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>possibly maybe still between those groups. So that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's got nothing to do with aw Dynamite tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>which will happen at eight pm Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 4>Bring it up on air if they give him a mic.

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 3>That's if possible. But didn't he get into a fight?

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what? Now we're getting too deep into things,

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 3>uh with all of that, so we'll just back out

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 3>slowly from all of that sort of stuff. Maybe that'll

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 3>be in the Seven Bucks Productions movie. We'll get to

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 3>see what happened with any Father's Day wishes from Brahm

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 3>and Rick Blair back in the day. I could have

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 3>sworn and it's been made official. I guess I could

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 3>have sworn this was made official months ago. Apparently it

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 3>was not. We've just been talking about it and the

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 3>shows have just been airing on the app anyway. But

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Corgan has announced today that his National Wrestling Alliance

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<v Speaker 3>will be available for streaming on the CW app and

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 3>there will be a reality show that follows him around

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 3>in both his public and private life. He hopes NWA's

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 3>deal with the CW App helps his promotion quote show

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<v Speaker 3>that there are other voices in professional wrestling end quote. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's going to be more quotes here in a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll love it. NWA programming has been available on

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<v Speaker 3>the streaming service February sixth, but an official announcement regarding

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 3>the deal was made today. The NWA and CW also

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 3>revealed on Wednesday that a reality show starring Corgan will

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<v Speaker 3>debut on the app later this year. The unscripted show

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<v Speaker 3>will focus on Qurrigan's life, family, role as NWA president,

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<v Speaker 3>and his day job. New episodes of NWA Power are

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<v Speaker 3>released every Tuesday on the app they've already been playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Past seasons of the show are available as well. This

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<v Speaker 3>time came from the press release okay quote democratizing access

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<v Speaker 3>to action packed wrestling from some of the sport's biggest, boldest,

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<v Speaker 3>and brightest personalities. All programming is notably available free of

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<v Speaker 3>charge and without a subscription via the Cwapp. It represents

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<v Speaker 3>a monumental power move for the NWA. The partnership not

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<v Speaker 3>only amplifies the brand's presence throughout popular culture and the zeitgeist,

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<v Speaker 3>but also sets a precedent for wrestling at large, democratizing

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<v Speaker 3>access and a zeitgeist. What do you think about that, filthy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're trying to get their SRO up or

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<v Speaker 4>what is SEO Search Engine optimization up through the roof

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<v Speaker 4>those terms.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they have any SROs when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to NWA events recently here, but I so I

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<v Speaker 3>look again, these shows have already been airing up on

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<v Speaker 3>the CW app and I guess it has been now

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<v Speaker 3>we know it's been made official here and look, any

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much this is going to help them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but maybe they can end up with a

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<v Speaker 3>spot because they're gonna have time to fill on the weekends.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, I don't know how it's going to work

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<v Speaker 3>with like NASCAR, but they are. They're picking up whatever

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 3>it's called now whatever the Bush Series races are, the

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<v Speaker 3>EXPENDEDE Series, whatever the series right under the main NASCAR

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<v Speaker 3>series is called. Now, they're gonna have stuff that gets

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<v Speaker 3>rained out right or you're gonna have rain delays. This

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<v Speaker 3>seems like something that if everything goes right and the

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<v Speaker 3>Sinister Minister is not snort and coke anymore. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>like if they can keep literally their noses clean, like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the show can end up on CW proper, you know, nowhere,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe it doesn't get promoted that much because WWE's

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<v Speaker 3>NXT is going to be on there. But maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>can actually end up being a good thing for them

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<v Speaker 3>in the long run. I mean it's possible, right, Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>I would think if I were a CW executive, I'd

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<v Speaker 4>probably look towards, you know, some sort of fringe NXT programming,

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<v Speaker 4>if I was gonna throw it into that slode, just

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<v Speaker 4>based on prestige of the companies. You know, maybe the

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<v Speaker 4>NXC combine you're throwing a few action packed spurts from that,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe something a few matches from Speed. Maybe they could

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<v Speaker 4>work out a deal there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you can't do that. That's exclusive. That is that

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<v Speaker 3>is X only your speedy matches.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I apologize then, but you know, I mean it

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<v Speaker 4>can't hurt. That's the biggest thing when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the NWA getting access to the CW app. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm good with watching Billy Corgan's private life,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, maybe a show about his public persona

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<v Speaker 4>would be a little bit more appetizing.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you ever Smashing Pumpkins fan back in the nineties?

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<v Speaker 3>Was the world a vampire for you?

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<v Speaker 4>I recognize his skills as a musician. I don't really

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<v Speaker 4>know what he's doing out there, but I respect it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the only times I've seen him Lollapalooza. He

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<v Speaker 3>was there at that one where Pavement opened up and

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<v Speaker 3>we went through the one in West Virginia and somebody

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 3>threw a big mudpie and knocked Pavement off stage, which

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure Bailey Corgan must have been thrilled about. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was that one, and then actually saw Garbage and

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<v Speaker 3>Smashing Pumpkins right before who was it the keyboardist or

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 3>the bassist odeed or whatever back And this was like

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight, ninety se whatever it was. But man, Garbage

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<v Speaker 3>was awesome. Sureley Manson was tremendous. That damn it was

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<v Speaker 3>a good group. That was a good show. Could have

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<v Speaker 3>left after Garbage. You know, no offense, Billy this. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't not a big Smashing Pumpkins fan, so we don't

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<v Speaker 3>use it as bumper music. We got Midnight Rider, and

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.919
<v Speaker 3>hearing Midnight Rider means we got to take a ride

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<v Speaker 3>to break Resting Observe alive.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vb on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 3>Back I'm showing much simper Vb. Filthy, Tom Waller here

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<v Speaker 3>with you, filthy. Let me. I just got to ask you,

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<v Speaker 3>where do you come down on a gas station performance

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<v Speaker 3>enhancing supplements.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't come down on him. I'm up and go

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<v Speaker 4>for the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>Hour, yeah, hours, It just it's a.

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<v Speaker 4>I can go for hours, but what I can't do

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<v Speaker 4>is watch NXT for hours.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't.

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<v Speaker 4>Luckily, Luckily I do it in one hour. Can we

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<v Speaker 4>get through it in one minute?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? You we absolutely can, because I'll ask you, is

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<v Speaker 3>there anything that stood out to you last night besides

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<v Speaker 3>the immaculate acting of Lyra Valkyrira and Tatum Pasley?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I was very impressed by the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that lash Legend and Lyra Valcarria went out there and

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<v Speaker 4>had what I believe was essentially a call it on

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<v Speaker 4>the fly shoot contest, and especially for someone of lash

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 4>Legend's experience. Brian said it a few weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to agree with him after this. She has

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<v Speaker 4>really turned the corner and improved, and there was a

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<v Speaker 4>time where he thought she wasn't gonna get it. I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't impressed, but lash Legend has won me over.

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<v Speaker 3>She is absolutely again coming along very very well about

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Kiria ultimately hit a flying body press to win the match.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw where unfortunately Shatzi, who announced on her social

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 3>media she's gonna be out like Piking around nine months

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 3>out with a torn acl she was delivering a DDT

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<v Speaker 3>through the ropes to the apron where she jumped down

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 3>to the floor. As she did that, her left knee

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<v Speaker 3>gave out, So tough situation there. Lash Legend had the

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<v Speaker 3>match with Klanne Jordan right before that, which meant she

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 3>was still in her year. When Roxanne Perez found out

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<v Speaker 3>about this as the match was going on, boy was

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 3>she pissed off. And this is all leading to her

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 3>still going after the women's title. Tony DiAngelo sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be going after the main title as twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four rolls on as well. Filthy A professional job you did.

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<v Speaker 4>Sir, Thank you, as did you, Mike, and let's close

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<v Speaker 4>it off with one more professional move take us home.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to you again after a while.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on the eight Side Network.