WEBVTT - Weight Prejudice (Queen Latifah recap)

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<v Speaker 1>Pay y'all, Hey, what's up? And welcome to let's Red

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<v Speaker 1>Table that. I'm Tracy teen Rope and I'm call Presley.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today? Tracy? You know how I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on all right and every days and that's exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>super duper excited. You and I both have some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dog on positive ways to look at things. You're sucessful,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm every day amazing. And what I love about that

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<v Speaker 1>is that you and I are also five three huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you and I also full figured or what they

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<v Speaker 1>called BBWs right and we are. I love that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that we each on it right. That was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the I want to say, like a pioneering moment

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<v Speaker 1>when they asked us to do this podcast was I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, yes, you just accept us as we

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<v Speaker 1>are and we appreciate Red Table Talk for that. Today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode is super successful. It's quite Latifa. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting right into it. I'm are yes, Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>love love love Queen Latifa. Like her, she was all

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<v Speaker 1>about empowerment long ago. She started it out for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of black women to see positivity in our age

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<v Speaker 1>group on television. I remember being in a position where

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<v Speaker 1>there was no one on TV that really looked like me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely absolutely. And then when women single came out, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I relate to all of them. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>this is true for you because you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>that aquarious power, right, uh huh? Did you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you could identify with more than one character? I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>co relate to more than one character. Definitely could relate

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<v Speaker 1>to Queen Latifa. And then I had a little spirit

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<v Speaker 1>of Maxine and Sinclair at the same time. Oh mg,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally see that. I totally see that. I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. I'm here for it because I

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<v Speaker 1>related to, of course Queen Latifa, because Queen Latifa was

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<v Speaker 1>a boss, she was, still is and still is a boss.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm glad that she's taking this whole weight issue

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<v Speaker 1>and obesity as a charge for her. I'm grateful she's

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<v Speaker 1>changing the game. That's it. She is changing the game.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been changing the game. So here's a fun fact

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<v Speaker 1>back in it had to be but she had to

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<v Speaker 1>talk show. I actually won her fitness challenge. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a fitness challenge. She got to talk about that. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>she had a fitness challenge on the show. I was

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<v Speaker 1>already watching the show because I want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>talk show host too, And again she had set the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>had become a host, and I'm like, look at her

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<v Speaker 1>doing her thing, still changing the game. But she had

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<v Speaker 1>a fitness challenge with the trainer and I won the challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have since gained all that way back. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great opportunity, and I want all these DVDs.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no DVD player to play them on now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it just shows the times it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a great experience. How super cool is that?

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<v Speaker 1>This is totally full circle for you. Okay, so now

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<v Speaker 1>she is fighting against this whole notion that society is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get us to live up to these expectations

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<v Speaker 1>that are completely unrealistic. Let's talk about Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you my elementary school experience was probably the most challenging. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the tallest for the longest, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh I'm tall, but I was also developing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was the chubby. You know how many words

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<v Speaker 1>we have for a little flat girls plump, I was full, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>was fluffy. I was all those things right. And my

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<v Speaker 1>classmates were the opposite. First of all, they were not

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<v Speaker 1>black and they were not fluffy. That part that is

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge high school was trying to fit in and

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<v Speaker 1>try to be something child. I don't know what we

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to be. But when it comes to elementary school,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to private school, and you know, although there

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<v Speaker 1>is no competition as far as old we're all wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Baby, We're feeling these things out different, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say I was the first developing one,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the first development with the brawl popping, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. That is a different conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>you are fully developed in fourth grade and I'm playing sports,

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<v Speaker 1>we are bouncing, we are looking different than our peers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that feeling different is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I am so adamant now to let

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<v Speaker 1>people know that I see them, affirm them, and love them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anyone to feel the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are saying we felt when we were in school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm more so just trying to allow people

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<v Speaker 1>to be who they are and remind them they are

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<v Speaker 1>successful in every state of being as they are. They

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<v Speaker 1>are enough, so yes, I think that those experiences clearly

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<v Speaker 1>define the trajectory of our lives because now we're here,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten to share a bit about how we feel.

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<v Speaker 1>But we want to also share what you, our community,

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<v Speaker 1>had to say about this Red Table Talk episode. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the fans asked Queen Latifa how she stops negative

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<v Speaker 1>self talk, so we ask you the same question. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are some of your answers. To kick it off. VJ says,

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<v Speaker 1>it just came to me. I was in my apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked past the mirror and I caught a glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>of myself and it just hit me. I'm okay with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just cried and kept repeating it. We loved that

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like we all have those breakthrough moments

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<v Speaker 1>of this is it. I love me, VJ. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. Brown Betty said, I've learned from a queen

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<v Speaker 1>on Rue Paul to name my inner saboteur then talk

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<v Speaker 1>back to it like, ain't nobody asked your stupid ass

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<v Speaker 1>Angie shut out to run back. She is a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Red Table Talk r v A group and

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing comedian. And when I tell you, I read

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<v Speaker 1>that in her voice. Oh that's good. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I do her justice? Come on here, Brown Batty,

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you name your saboteur Angie? Okay, for I

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<v Speaker 1>the es in the world. Anybody ask you, Angie. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I love it. I'm gonna do that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Johnson shout out to him. He is actually another

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<v Speaker 1>Red Table Talk rb A member. He says, I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>from practicing yoga that every person is different and has

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<v Speaker 1>different gifts and challenges, and not one person is better

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<v Speaker 1>or worse for it. We are all entitled to peace

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<v Speaker 1>simply because we exist. I love that because it is

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<v Speaker 1>the truth and we do deserve it. That is the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Gail Or Well Rhonda said, I stop and focus on

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<v Speaker 1>my blessings and accomplishment. We love that. That's good. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. That's good. Daja Coldie says, first self awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>noticing when I'm doing it. Then I explore my senses,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in this exact moment, What do I hear, smell, see,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. It always brings me back. Then I focus

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<v Speaker 1>my energy towards something else. I love that ground yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. T Draper Brazil said, you literally can't thank

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<v Speaker 1>negative thoughts while speaking positively. Come on here at T

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<v Speaker 1>Draper Brasil like that affirming, going back to those affirmations

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out loud, speak over your life. We're here it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. But it's time to do, y'all. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta execute this season. We're going to take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we get back, we'll be joined by two

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<v Speaker 1>incredible guests from our Red Table Talk community. We're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>to fellow our t T community members to the virtual

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<v Speaker 1>Red Table. I'm so glad Alsa Dean's Davis is unless

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<v Speaker 1>Red Table That today because she relates to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what Queen Latifa shared at the Red Table from

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<v Speaker 1>people putting labels on her because of her size and

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<v Speaker 1>b M I to try and to maintain her healthy

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<v Speaker 1>view of herself and not let outside opinions affect that.

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<v Speaker 1>Alisa gets it. Thank you, Alsa for coming on to

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<v Speaker 1>share your story with us. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>And Vanity Eddie is joining us from Riverside, California today,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is not her first time testing on a

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<v Speaker 1>Red Table Talk production. If you could see her right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you might recognize her from the fan wall in the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Table Talk episode we're talking about today, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>with Queen Batifa, and Vanity was not able to share

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<v Speaker 1>how her body type has impacted her life on that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we had to come back today so

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<v Speaker 1>we can give her that opportunity. So Vanity, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming to this virtual red table with us unless

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<v Speaker 1>red table that how are you today? I am awesome, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you, thank you, thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 1>as a guest. No problem, the problem. We are excited

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<v Speaker 1>that you are here. So let's jump into it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the part of the show where we reveal which

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<v Speaker 1>moments made us pause, I mean really made us rewind

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<v Speaker 1>the segment and listen again. So this is time for

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<v Speaker 1>wait what wait, wait, wait what happened with that? I

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<v Speaker 1>love the segment, right, so let's just jump on into it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the first moments of Worst was when Queen

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<v Speaker 1>Latifa revealed that the cast of Living Single was told

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<v Speaker 1>that they needed to lose weights. We helped create Living Single,

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<v Speaker 1>so when you look at that picture, you see four

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<v Speaker 1>different women, four different shades, four different types, and we

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<v Speaker 1>looked like four women who would live in Brooklyn, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the word came down that we needed to lose weight.

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<v Speaker 1>This was that it is a weight what for real?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I remember the weight watching the show and loved

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<v Speaker 1>every minute and I think it was the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about, but they still brought it up.

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<v Speaker 1>How d y'all feel about it? I was really shocked

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<v Speaker 1>when the show was like what top in the African

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<v Speaker 1>American Latino community Queen Latifa and approached her and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to lose some weight and other cast members

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all she's breaking revenue. Beside she is now y'all

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<v Speaker 1>can turn about her weight. So yeah, I bothered me.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree. I think it was crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think about the time period when the show came out,

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<v Speaker 1>so back then, when we were just really getting our

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<v Speaker 1>foot in the door to be able to have mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>black shows back then, I can see them asking absurd

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<v Speaker 1>questions like that, or of having no expectations. Definitely wasn't realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're crazy for even expecting them to want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, considering the whole idea of the show

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<v Speaker 1>was to have black members on their exploiting themselves as

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<v Speaker 1>they are. What else would they expecting? And the various

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<v Speaker 1>sizes represented me and my friends. So I'm listening like what,

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder did they approached them after Friends came out?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we can't even look at friends. I'm sorry not

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<v Speaker 1>this in the show, But that didn't represent anybody because

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<v Speaker 1>they had like no black people on the show. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't present me. It didn't represent me, like they had

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<v Speaker 1>no black friend. It's like in New York City, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you would never see black people walking around. It's New

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<v Speaker 1>York City, So you're trying to con them. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>even like reality to me living single, For me, watching

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<v Speaker 1>that was reality. I had a friend that looked like May.

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<v Speaker 1>Jane's character had a friend look like st Clair. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a friend, you know, like Max. It's so to

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<v Speaker 1>me that was so for them to approach them and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to fit into this mode of what

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<v Speaker 1>America wants. That kiss me off? And so yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>think about what did America want? Was it just wight prejudiced?

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<v Speaker 1>That was the last remaining acceptable bias. I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>get it out because it just it infuriates me. According

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<v Speaker 1>to experts, weight prejudice is the last remaining social acceptable bias.

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<v Speaker 1>Numerous studies have found children as young as three believe

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<v Speaker 1>harmful stereotypes and biases towards overweight people, including that they

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<v Speaker 1>are lazy, weak willed, unsuccessful and unintelligent. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it is the last acceptable. That's the problem, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I've experienced some way bias, right, But it was growing

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<v Speaker 1>up I had to forgive myself because it was mainly sports,

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<v Speaker 1>especially specifically gymnastics. I grew up and just could not

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<v Speaker 1>fit those little guards. Man. I am built different. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was my experience. So you always feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be smaller because everyone else is, or even

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<v Speaker 1>cheerly the outfits. Back in high skill, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a cheerleader. For me to be able to fit

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<v Speaker 1>into that cheerleading outfit, I had to be around of

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<v Speaker 1>ten twelve, and that was not realistic for me because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those uniforms they kind of passed down.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about the high school setting, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really buy new uniforms from time. They just pass them

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<v Speaker 1>down because economically it works for them. And if I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't fit into any of those uniforms that they were

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<v Speaker 1>passing down, then they weren't passing anything to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way they large. I made the cheerlead squad, but

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<v Speaker 1>if I want the cheer and fit in that uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to lose the weight they'd have to say

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<v Speaker 1>it was implied. It was definitely. And the other option

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<v Speaker 1>with sweatpants. I didn't want to wear sweatpants, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my first time making the high school cheering the squad,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to look like everyone else. I end up

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<v Speaker 1>drinking slim fast in high school, just doing things like

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<v Speaker 1>that so that I could be able to fit into

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<v Speaker 1>that cheerleading uniform. And here's the other part about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you are the same size, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>the bodies are not the same. Like we literally could

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<v Speaker 1>have the same size and look completely different. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of goes into the next wait what moment when Queenland

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<v Speaker 1>here that she was told that she was technically obese

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<v Speaker 1>because of her being. She was showing me different body

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<v Speaker 1>types and she's like, this is what your b a maya's,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what your weight is, and you fall into

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<v Speaker 1>this category of obesity. I was mad at that. Off. Now, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you already. I make up my own being

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<v Speaker 1>my number. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, this is white.

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<v Speaker 1>What for real, y'all make um own because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like what y'all talking about. You heard this, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you do? Car? Just make up my own I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like and B and my for me, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're both short now we're five three. Upon believe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a hundred and twenty pounds. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've been net since fourth grade something along those lines. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was fourth grade, I was young, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was little at that weight. But we know now. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the Washington Post, the body max Index or b

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<v Speaker 1>M I car was making up her own she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a c m I was created two hundred years ago

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who took the average height and weights of

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<v Speaker 1>a group of white men and called this the ideal

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<v Speaker 1>body type. These measurements do not reflect most bodies today,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly women. And hello, non white people. Can anybody say

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<v Speaker 1>hello and hello hello? No, no, point out one white

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<v Speaker 1>man with some hips and we can talk. And just

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that people who are childbearing like just generally

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<v Speaker 1>hold and carry more weight. So that's another thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's not considered, especially if the standard was

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<v Speaker 1>white men. Let me say this, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what do y'all think. Two hundred years ago the

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<v Speaker 1>standard was established by white men using white men. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we not modify the b M I to be more relevant?

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<v Speaker 1>This is my first time ever hearing about that, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hundred years ago, we weren't even free. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I can go on another tangent, but so we know

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't counting us. Okay, no exactly, but let alone

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<v Speaker 1>women who didn't have rights and freedom. So you take

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<v Speaker 1>this right group of white in and you decide this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a standard. So it sounds about Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds about right for the times, but it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>needs to change. You would think that someone at this

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<v Speaker 1>point would have addressed it and to seem like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>okay with this standard with not changing the b m I.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're asking for the medical professionals to rally together

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of the people of America and modify the

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<v Speaker 1>dog on b m I to be more inclusive of

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<v Speaker 1>what Americans look like today, including women and people of color.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you on behalf of the four of us here

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<v Speaker 1>at let's red table that. So here's something else we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about that how has your bm I affected

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<v Speaker 1>your life or your health care? So my b m

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<v Speaker 1>I has affected my life mentally, you carry around this

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<v Speaker 1>I'm overweight, I'm obese. For some people who are attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to try to lose weight or you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>decisions like healthy eating and only to see and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how hard I try, I'm still labeled obese

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<v Speaker 1>because this index is saying that, like you still I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only five four and I should you about maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five. I've never reached that. Sometimes I deal with

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling like I'll ever be ideal, so mentally that

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<v Speaker 1>takes a toll on my self esteem to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not what the standards should be healthcare. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of B and I, I think that it's not relevant

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<v Speaker 1>because something's like I said, I've been playing sports all

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<v Speaker 1>my life and since twenty I was diagnosed with hypertension.

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<v Speaker 1>But it had nothing to do I think with my

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<v Speaker 1>body weight. I look at my history and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>she had a stroke at forty, my grandfather he had

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack at fifty. My family had a history.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's more in my opinion or what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>more hereditary versus you know, gotten is based on body weight.

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<v Speaker 1>I've made healthy decisions to ensure that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy weight, and then by nineteen years old, I'm diagnosed

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<v Speaker 1>with hypertension. So how does the B and I really

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<v Speaker 1>affect my health care? Is it realistic? Because you have

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<v Speaker 1>people that are smaller than me or and actually end

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<v Speaker 1>within their being my index and have hypertension or have diabetes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think those two things correly at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about all the other people right now who are

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<v Speaker 1>making alterations to their body because of this B and

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<v Speaker 1>my index. It carries so much on certain people and

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<v Speaker 1>including myself, and for me, I don't even address it

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<v Speaker 1>because it hasn't done anything to me but give me

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<v Speaker 1>low self esteem. There's no solution, not at all. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your being mine, have a great day. They just

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<v Speaker 1>think you're unhealthy. So yeah, that's it. You're lazy, You're unhealthy,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because that's because of this. I'm just lazy and healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>eat fried chicken all day. That's ye I do. But still,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes, okay, that's funny. What really bothers me

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<v Speaker 1>is because I had no idea that this was created

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago. So I've basically been like chasing a

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<v Speaker 1>two under year old like standard white man created standard.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like my white has fluctuated. You can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that since I was a child, like I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>up and down, been anywhere from a size twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>to a size ten as an adult, and I'm proodical

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<v Speaker 1>size eighteen now and lot I have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>me chasing the idea of what a healthy b M

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<v Speaker 1>I is and with a healthy images. So that's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really floored by that. So I think, of course, that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely affected me in my life, and for me, my

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<v Speaker 1>way is more about just my health. I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm comfortable with who I am, how I look,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do want to be healthier. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I chase not being my But I takes a healthy lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 1>like having a healthy lifestyle is one thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think anytime you associate numbers right with it, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it challenging. So my b M I is not in

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<v Speaker 1>the range that is appropriate. And so I go every

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<v Speaker 1>year and it never has been. By the way, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I can say that without any issue. It never has been.

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<v Speaker 1>I love myself and all my assets. Okay, this last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for me to come up on another wellness check.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get a full series, the whole battery of

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<v Speaker 1>tests run, y'all, and my doctor looks at me and

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<v Speaker 1>sees this this extra pandemic weight and goes um. You know, so, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>if we ever included the A one C test with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked at him, started laughing, and I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you see all these extra assets now, so you got

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<v Speaker 1>to say to yourself, she's short and fat, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be die you're bad act Let's test it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, we haven't done an A one C before.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do one now so I can show you that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not diebetic. Get the test back. I was not diabetic,

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<v Speaker 1>I was nowhere near. I wasn't pre diabetic. I was nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told him with glee, don't let this fat

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<v Speaker 1>fool you. I don't have anything. I have nothings. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the whole construct of being overweight and being obese

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<v Speaker 1>is such a horrible mind f right, because you see

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<v Speaker 1>that there are people who are super slim who are

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<v Speaker 1>also unbelievably unhealthy, and they call that skinny fat a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times. And then why does it have to

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<v Speaker 1>still be something fat healthy getting unhealthy? It's healthy. Period.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Vanity's point, this is a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>is just genetics. You just cannot stop certain things. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have kidney failure in my family. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>things that I need to address as well. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do have hypertension as well. And when it came like,

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<v Speaker 1>my doctor was like, I need you to know you're

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<v Speaker 1>so healthy. It's not like there's a lot that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. Of course, you can work out what have you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need you to know you're probably still need

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<v Speaker 1>to take this medicine. So let me tell y'all something.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was at work. This was a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, he and I had this conversation about him

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<v Speaker 1>being diabetic and him having hypertension, and he came to

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<v Speaker 1>me and said, hey, Tracy, and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing. The name remains anonymous, we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>call him Sam. So Sam says, with a regular Coca

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<v Speaker 1>cola in his hand and a couple of ice So, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? What you're sugar? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have sugar. You don't I said no. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean. I said, no, you are the

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<v Speaker 1>one with diabetes. I don't have diabetes. I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing with this regular coke? And so then

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<v Speaker 1>he comes back, he goes, you know what, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. Let me go ahead and get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody gave us to me, I don't even want it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he walks away and he comes back. He goes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Tracy, now, how is your hypertension? How your blood pressure?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, my blood pressure is fine. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? I think society makes the criminator? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is chit chat, this regular conversation. So

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<v Speaker 1>then this is what got me. I said to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any health issues. And this was his response, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, so you mean to tell me you're just

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<v Speaker 1>walking around here healthy And I was like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am. And he couldn't believe it. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>now something is really wrong with that. Okay, So going

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<v Speaker 1>them out with b M I a measurement of health

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<v Speaker 1>that was not made with all bodies in mind. We

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<v Speaker 1>learned that two in five Americans are considered obese, and

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<v Speaker 1>four and five Black women are considered obese. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have this non inclusive view of what health is telling

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, specifically Black women, that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>health problem when we really don't. As Tracy gave us

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<v Speaker 1>that perfect example, like it's just so automatically understood. The

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<v Speaker 1>women at the Red Table talked about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why black women can be heavier, like a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of access to produce, but I think it's also because

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<v Speaker 1>of just this inherited survival mentality. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>just are on the go and if you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional either sometimes that's just a part of the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about a lot of things linear as if

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<v Speaker 1>it can be prevented, but a lot of things stack

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<v Speaker 1>on top of things to create a certain health issue

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<v Speaker 1>for those who have it, but definitely not automatically created

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<v Speaker 1>or linked to the b M. I So when you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing these statistics, ladies, what sparks in your mind for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they just need to do more research and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to more people in different communities somewhere where those

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<v Speaker 1>resources are limited, and not just the food, just the knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about their whatever, because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't even understand or not empowered with the information on

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<v Speaker 1>what's healthy what's not healthy. It's so interesting that you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about people eating what they have and not having

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge about different food options or even nutritional education and awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an attention to the food deserts that you mentioned. Car.

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely one of the things that may lead

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<v Speaker 1>to this number being accurate with the four out of five.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say what I know about black people and

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<v Speaker 1>what we come from. Historically, Car has this saying leftover

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<v Speaker 1>slave stuff, right, Car, Yes, I do. And the leftover

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<v Speaker 1>slave stuff in this case was that slaves had to

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<v Speaker 1>eat whatever they had available, and it wasn't fresh produced,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't leaning cuts of meat. It was literally scraps.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are coming from generations of cooking using

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<v Speaker 1>those items, using the method that food was prepared, you

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<v Speaker 1>are literally going to consume that. That is what you

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>grew up eating, that's what you're gonna teach your children

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to eat, and that may not be the necessarily healthiest option,

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>right And if you are, on top of it, living

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>in food desert, that compounds the issue. And so the

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>idea of knowing that four out of five black women

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:42.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe obese, First of all, I have issue with that

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 1>word altogether obese. My wife and I laughed because she

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.920
<v Speaker 1>says obe sounds like old, beast, old, big old, something

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>right like it? We like that, Why not just bigger

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>than the average of American because that is somewhat of

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a basis of what they're going upon. But is it

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is it really bigger than the average American when the

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>average American science and size of fourteen. I don't know

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>it's going up since then, Like seriously, yeah, what is

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the size of an average American? Really? Size sixteen? Okay, okay,

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>keep going up? We all big old. I was telling

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Tracy to like on top of the eating scraps and

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>things that we only had and somewhat mirroring and continuing

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>that throughout our life. You know, I tend to be

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>an emotional eater. You just gotta be honest with who

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you are and where you are. Baby me and my

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>son was celebrating everything in COVID. Hey, you bought the cake.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>You just listen. We can only go to the grocery

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>store brought us the cake today. We're just gonna celebrate

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>life in our culture or as African Americans, black women,

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever you wanna call us. It's so much going to

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.919
<v Speaker 1>the left. Sometimes the cake feels right. I just sometimes

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>people want to cupcake a Snickers. You're not yourself when

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you're hungry. So many subliminals as well as we're on

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the go chasing dreams and doing whatever. A lot of

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>us are just eating out of survival, out of habit

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>or trying to find a little some type of silver

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>lining in their day. Okay, even on everybody hates Chris

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Love that show. I feel like that mom had that turtle.

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>She had those turtles randomly. She always wanted, just like

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>small things like that create a bigger just to have

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a moment, just a moment, just to have a moment, moment.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So as a mom, I feeling the moments that we

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>have are connected to food and all. The other part

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>of that for women of color is that we had

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>historically bodies that had to bear the labor of a land. Right,

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>We bore the children, We had to work the fields,

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>we had to work in the house. There was work

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>that needed to be done. Your body naturally reacts to

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>what you give it, and so you're going to be bigger.

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Man stayed pregnant. My grandmother had nine children, her mother

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>had eight. Like it's just certain things generationally were different.

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>So I know a Lisa grandmother. Yeah, she had my

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>mom's me thirteen and then three died at birth. But yeah,

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>so she had ten children. Yeah, and that's been pregnant

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>probably from I don't know, maybe aged eighteen to one child. Okay,

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and the way that pregnancy took my body through to

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>do it ten times. This is the thirties and forties

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and fifties right here, was not what it is now. Hey,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>these women were amazing. We talked about the ridiculousness of

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Queen Latifa and the cast of living single being as

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to lose weight. But one beautiful part of that story

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>was that shot Kim, Queen's business partner, absolutely stood by

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>her and was like, no way. You know you're not

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this. You're not gonna She's not changing the thing.

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, a Lisa, have you had

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>support like this went outside and Launce just try to

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>make your body their issue. My family, my parents, I

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>can tell a story too. I don't have one too deep.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 1>But when I was like probably about Tenery Levin and

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a family member who drinks a lot in the

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>family and he was drinking a lot and he made

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>a comment to me and he was like, oh man,

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten so fat. And I'm a little girl. Ryan

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is a grown man telling me this. So my other

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>cousin who's a year younger than me, stood up for

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>me and then and to this day I still tell

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>him that I still don't want to cry. He just

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>started going off on him. You old drunk man. You

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be talking to her like that. And this cousin

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>says that I saw you about three months ago. I said,

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say his name. I will never forget,

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>even as a teen year old girl, how you stood

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>up for me. For the most part of my family

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>have always had support. No one's ever made me feel

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>some kind of way about it. That one uncle when

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he was told that liquor reveal who he was. But

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I had someone there to support me. That meant the

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>world to me. And even now, as a forty four

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>year old woman, I still recall that, and it's crazy,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's the kind of support that we have to

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>give each other in our community and our children. Regardless,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you never forgot how the uncle made you feel, and

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you never forgot how the cousin supported you, and that

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>is powerful. And the fact that you said just thinking

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>about it and the support you got can make you

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>cry because people don't understand that sometimes their words hurt

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and they last right in regardless of all things I've done,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>successs I had in my life, that still sits with me.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>This tenor dold girl. We're sitting here being ridiculed, culled

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>by her adult uncle. And I forgive him because he

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>has a drinking problem, you know, but still my cousin.

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I love on him more because of how he reacted

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>as a child. He knew it wasn't right and he

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>took up for me. He was younger than you. He

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>was younger than me, or you're younger. Yeah, just the

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>way we carry things though it's a luggage that you

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know how to handle, you know what I mean,

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you just kind of look at it like in

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>one a blurb of a moment, but you carry that.

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>But part of those verbals are one of the reasons

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that contribute the white And that's the thing you want

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to realize. One person can really jack you up in

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the head. So people have to really be careful with

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the words that you was, especially with young people, because

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they can carry that a Lisa, you've talked about having

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>an experience in school when you were bullied. I also

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>want to know from everyone else if you were heavier

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>than your classmates as a child, what was the school

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and like growing up like for you, do you wish

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they would have acted differently? Or were they on point

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and supported you or tell us about any childhood experience

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>as you had. Unfortunately growing up, so I end up

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>moving down south for my high school years. And when

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I moved down so I moved down my grandparents in

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>this little town in South Carolina, and at age thirteen,

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>politics curses coming out, and my grandparents these countries religious

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>cover that up. Even talked to me about losing some

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>weight problem. Yeah, and then my grandma, I'm like, I'm

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>shaped just like her. She's boughten curvy too. Now we

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about eat. My grandma she was from the South,

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so she cooked everything with like porking and so like

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't helping the situation. But yeah, I was telling

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>me like these things to do, even try to not

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>eat as much, not supporting me and who I was,

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to the point where I, like I said, I'm always

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to lose weight. So yeah, definitely I did not

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of support. I can remember in high school,

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I was the problem by myself because none of the

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>guys wasn't even it was interested, and I don't evenink

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>they were interested. And the fast for that, what I'd

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>to get together a goal to the goal we have

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>our own problem. One day, I'm down for that problem.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>It did affect me because I didn't have that support.

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have that cousin Alicia that had jumped in

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, you're perfect. How you are? I really struggled.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I really struggled throughout high school because I couldn't do

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>anything with this. But it doesn't matter how much you're in,

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>how much I worked out, how much some fast I drank,

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>how much I starved myself, and a lot of those

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>things were unhealthy. I was not knowing whatever it was,

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>practicing unhealthy habits nutritional habits instead of my parents, my

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>family telling me, hey, this is what you can do

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to help you have a better healthy lifestyle. But I

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>get it. They were older. They didn't really understand because

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>as you go back again, you talk about them not

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>having the resources and not being able to teach me

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>better ways to better habits or eating habits and nutritional habits.

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>At first, I wanted to be mad with them because Grandma,

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you told me how to eat that corn bread staple,

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>right right, I want to tap into that like we

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Number one, cornbread was the thing of and rice, And

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think about the things that we used to we

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>were trying to stay full because we knew that there

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>was a lax of goes back to that growing up

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>in survival. But then also talking about our parents having

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the resources, I definitely want to say this, asking my

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>parents to work out didn't make any sense to the

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It just was not a part of their culture. Again,

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a resource they didn't have. And when we look back,

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like they took me to my sports and stuff, but

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>they had to work. So after two jobs, walk three

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>miles for what you know what I mean, it just

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a part of the culture. I know my Grandmo

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out, but also their life was the workout.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I was just gonna say she worked out plenty,

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it was just anaerobic workout. It was anaerobic exercise because

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and to the point of black, I think that most

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of the food, the corn bread and fed and beans

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and rice was literally you had to have some stick

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to your ribs kind of food to do some of

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the things that they did. Just from that day. They

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>had hard living. And our life is so much more

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>sedendary than it was. Work from home is what what

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you do again? What is Let me tell you. I

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>can tell from my childhood. Some of you relate to

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>this if you have other siblings or family members. My sister,

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>my older sister, whom I absolutely adore, was lighter scanned

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and super petite. So then the younger sister here, I

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>come along, and I'm the darker skinned and I'm short,

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm thick, not slim thick, as the folks said.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I was the chubby sister, right, So it was always

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>for me the comparison with my sister. And she was

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>not like just a little petite like she was teen

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>ninety petite, y'all. She was like size four petite. Okay.

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I was born a size four, so you know,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't ever get to that, okay, And

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>so there was always a difference for me. And then

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the sad part, I'm like, Alisa, is my dad had

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>absolute fat prejudice. He had one percent fat prejudice. I

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>remember him telling me when I was, I want to say,

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe in my early twenties, that he looked at me

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and said, which I wasn't even near the size I

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>am now by the way he looked at me, and

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he said, he's just a shame. I just can't I

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>can't shame you in the losing weight. My dad definitely

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>told me I was fat, and don Man went on

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>fact the girl like that that the same thing my dad.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you what I told my dad.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Rest in peace, daddy. I'm here on earth and I'm

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>telling the truth on you as we speak. I said,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>looking here, daddy, you are not going to shame me

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>into losing weight because I am with my body all

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the time. I feed my body, I washed my body,

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I clothed my body. I love my body. So you're right,

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to shame me into losing weight. And

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to that, he said, what's wrong with you is that

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you need to eat more pork. You eat all that,

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>all them bergies and all that stuff. You need to

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>eat more pork, which goes back to what we talked about.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>From what they knew. What my dad knew was his

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>family worked, they were laborers. They had hearty food and

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>hardy meals, and they burned it off. That's not my lifestyle.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Right until the day he died, he was quick to

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you that I was fat. When I say that,

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>last generation didn't care what people thought. I heard the

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>story about Blue Ivy. Blue Ivy was talking to jay

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Z or dad, and she was like, what you said

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>made me sad? And jay Z listened, And when I

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>told my dad, he said something that made me sad.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>My dad said, if I can't talk to you, how

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 1>the world gonna talk to you? So things like that,

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>him telling me no man wants the fat girl, Like

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>why am I worried about what a man wanted? Six?

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why that see even but it's

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>just their language that was like their hearts. I think

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>they were saying and doing, like you said, Tracy, the

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<v Speaker 1>best that they could to help us be accepted and

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 1>be better than them. It's interesting because here we are saying,

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>with the exception of a Lisa, that we had family members,

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>our parents, saying things to us that were not positive,

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>that were negative things associated with our bodies when we

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>were young. And while they may have been preparing us

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in their minds, what they were really doing was traumatizing us,

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>throwing their insecurity as well. Again, I did sports and

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>watch my mom do as every other woman probably in

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the eighties and nineties, every fad diet there was. We

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>can count on society to send you to feed into

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the mindsets that we have and one consequence of the

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>negative use society has for bigger body people that Red

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Table did not dive into is diet culture. Car and

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you just talked about this. We all know these fad

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>diets that pop up can be so harmful to people's health. Vanity.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever gotten something to a diet and what

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>happened because of it? Oh my god, Keto, calories that

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in carbs count the carbs counting, calories fasting, so many

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>different and what happened. I'm still fat? You know what. No,

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't identify. I identify myself as bigger body that's identified.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting because I think the key in that

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>it is the fad. That word it's a fad diet.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not a modified lifestyle. And you think about diet,

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>that word on its own has died in it. Like

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not when you last, it's temporary, you know what.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. One of Queen Latifa's main points in

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>this episode was about how the language we used to

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about weight and body types is the problem, not

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>our actual bodies. Okay, let me say that one more time.

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not our bodies, y'all, it is the language. And

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like obese, right, So I was like, no, right,

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't see myself that way. That's what I'm saying.

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's the problem, and that's why I'm here because

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>that word brings a connotation with it, and the connotation

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is the problem. I'm so happy to Queen Latifa points

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>this out. Do you feel the terms we used to

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>describe curvy women are harmful? Like we talked about obese,

0:38:54.960 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 1>what else? Thick, slim, thick? Great? At the same time,

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it comes off as derogatory, it comes off a

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>little over sexual It's already bad that our body over

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>sexualized anyway, but then we had all these terms on

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>top of it. I'm okay, miss me with it. Even

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like some clothing stores in retail, like I remember, I'm

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>not gonna It's a well known clothing store that's been

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>around four years, and I remember because I've been shopping

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>there since I was in a teenager. Because I've the

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>size probably like a size twenty when I was in

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>high school. They would say, we're gonna either be a

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>size one, two, or three, like in a store, so

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you would fit the range, and you're gonna either be

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a triangle, an apple, a pair or an inverted triangle,

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, come up to be called an inverted

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>triangle or apple or a pear? Why my fruit? And

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 1>then also like they would say, and I guess where

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>our glass well sales hour glass? So everyone wants to

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>be an hour glass, right, But if you're not in

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>your apple glass figure right, and I'm one of a

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>parachape on, small can topping, larger to bottom, I guess

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to make you feel comfortable in who you are,

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>which you're also you know, other women feel bad about

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>themselves because I'm not an hour glass, So I guess

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I can call himself an apple or a pear or

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>inverted triangle and that it's just super annoying. I don't

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>know what. We're trying to stay hard and it didn't

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>last for a long time. But then also they would say,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you need a size too, and I'm not a size too,

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>but I guess they wanted you to feel your size too.

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>You're a size to pear shape, and I'm like, what

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the hell like, you're a big girl. No, I'm a

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>size twenty. I'm the bottom. Let me own who I am,

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>tell me what I'm supposed to be, and calling me

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a piece of damn fruit. I'm not a piece of fruit.

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the times that feel empowering to you? Curvy, voluptuous?

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with for a figure just successful, because do

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:48.919
<v Speaker 1>I have to describe as something I definitely remember going

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>through life, especially in my adult ages, and like pieces

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>of my life by weight. I was at my lowest

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>adult weight here, I was at my highest adult weight

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>here on this vacation and versus what was the memory

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>cys like, so trying to stop that and rechange that

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>narrative for myself moving forward. That's a gift that we

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>can really share with people to know that if you

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>are really experiencing joy in the moment, don't associate what

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>your weight is, yes, because you're literally robbing yourself of

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the joy of that experience. That is so true. I

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>remember looking back and I don't know if you guys

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 1>said this is true for you too, and thinking at

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>this way, Oh gosh, when I was x y z WAD,

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really big. Now look, I wish

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I could go back to being that side. The way

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>we beat ourselves up randomly, Like Vanity said, this, being

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>my characters goes with you like a shadow like a ghost.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Just it's crazy you still big. You get that new

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>pick three number on the scale boy, And I don't

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>know why I call it pick three number, because it

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>because listen, for some reason, I was looking for a

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>number on the scale, right, and I could just eat

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a cupcake and still be looking for that number. Girl.

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Just push your pick three number today, because you know what,

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what the logic was, though. It's because we

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>had been literally sad that you had to be a

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>certain size, a certain number had to be on the

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>scale right right. That is true. You call it pick

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>three though, because I don't care. And I hate to

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>say I don't care, because I know people hear that

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and be like, oh, you don't care about our waiter.

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>It's just a longer life goal for me. So once

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you know more about your body, I promise it feels

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot better because it can consume you otherwise. Quinlanity

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>for openly shared that she has considered obese, something that

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>most people are not eager to disclose, but she did

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.720
<v Speaker 1>so to explain the problem with obesity is the associations

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>we pair it with. If you're comfortable sharing at Lisa,

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we know that you have some stories or what labels

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>have doctors or others giving you based on your size,

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and how did that affect you mentally being in school

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and being bully, being called fat, or someone assuming that

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>because you are overweight, you're lazy, or you're slow, or

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>even sometimes I'm trying to question your intelligence, they will, Yeah,

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 1>because you look a certain way. That means you're not

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>taking care of yourself, which means you're not very smart,

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>which means which means you're also fat. Like it can

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 1>just definitely trickle down so much different things. My parents,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I really value them in the fact that they always

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>taught me self a seem they really did, and so

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it would be difficult to get that at home and

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>then go out and you have other people see your

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>different ways. I was always kind of battling with that,

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>but I did have the comfort at home annoying that

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what, You're still beautiful, godless what size you are.

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And so I think for me growing up, I had

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to realize, Okay, I am smart. I feel like what's

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the movie with smart? Yeah, because the world in society

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and people a lot of times in school and say

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you're in the playground and you got to pick your

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>teammates whatever, and being the last person pick cause they

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>assume because on a certain size, I can't run as

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>fashion or I'm lazy, or as an adult when it's

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>time to go on the vacation or your girl tripping

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>with your girlfriends, and I tend to be the bigger

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>one in the group. Right. There is a vibe when

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>y'all go out to eat and it's a booth and

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of looking like, girl, can you fit here?

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Girls like me? But this is that Do they literally

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you if you can fit in the boot? No?

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's always implied these are my girlfriends,

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they love me. But I mean, even when you're out

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to eat at a restaurant or when you're just people

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>who assume or they'll look at your certain way. I

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 1>can't believe you ordering that. Maybe it is my insecurity

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>or what I feel based on past experiences, you know

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But there's definitely sometimes an inkling of

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>can you fit here? Like small moments that I feel

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like people who maybe an average size don't have to

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 1>think about. It's definitely assumptions, but it's also like people

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>putting their insecurities on you too. I think that's all

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>too like you're saying, you're on a plane. The seatbelt

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>might be kind of tight, but I can buck up,

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have a flight atend. Walk by, Can

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I see your seatbelt? I don't think anybody else in

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I'm like, I hope you're trying to do

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a job, because right you don't want to get crazy

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to get bucked about, and I don't I'm talking about here.

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>It is because you don't want to embarrass the situation

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>more because you stick about being overweight and being black whatever.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the biggest thing for me is I think just

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>people a lot of times putting their insecurities on me.

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Have you never thought? I know? I know my mind

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.879
<v Speaker 1>right now. My mind is blown. Don't get me wrong.

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>When I'm walking the room, I don't care. I'm probably

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the biggest personality there. I'm gonna be the

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest everything there when I walk in a room. Anyway,

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I think what you want, but you can feel it

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can feel that energy. I can tell you

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a flight attendant doesn't have to ask me if they

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>need to see my seatbelt because I'm walking in with

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>my own damn extender. About that wait a minute, you

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>got Amazon, Amazon, come on here, and I needed my

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>asset's a wide and I want to make sure they

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 1>covered when I get on the plane. Yes, it's the

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>extender for me. That's a good idea. I'm real body aware, right,

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>don't play games with me asking me to see my

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>dog on seatbelt, Bring me a beverage, man in a snake,

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>bring me some cookies. We are absolutely delighted that you

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 1>joined us today. I'm telling you I enjoyed you both,

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Vanity and a Lisa. Thank you so much for being

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>with much. We got a schedule a date for that

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>problem though. That's right, we love it. We got to

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>virtual problems. Let's red tape of that prom date is

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a love it. We're going to take a short break

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>right now, and when we return, we'll share our top

0:46:51.200 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>five takeaways from this episode. Listen. Discussing this episode has

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 1>been such a learning experience from me, so I'm excited

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to finally share our top five thoughts. I love the

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 1>top five thoughts. This is part of the show where

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we speed through five thoughts slash takeaways from the episode.

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's fire them off. Number five, choose love for yourself

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>always not Some of the not part of time every

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>day always. Number four, it's not about weight, it's about health.

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>There's so much more to it, as we discussed today. No,

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I you know what I always tell people,

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>don't let the fat fool you. And that's it, am

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I right, that's the post and that's it. Don't let

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the fat fool right. Number three, start your body positivity

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>journey right now every day. Don't wait. Love on yourself.

0:47:55.920 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree. Number two self talk is powerful. Yeah, what

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you tell yourself is important. What others have told you

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>is important as well, And as we talked about with

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>our guests, sometimes you may need to remove that from

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>your mind. Get it out of there. So remember those

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>things that actually matter to you. Hold onto those. And

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>number one, you cannot face your view of yourself on

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<v Speaker 1>outside opinions. Worry about what you think about yourself. That's it.

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