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Speaker 1: Lines and times. My buddy West Logan fresh off the

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Speaker 1: tournament trail with the bass Master Elites. Last time we talked,

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Speaker 1: you were getting ready to kick off your season on

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Speaker 1: the Elites. You had Toledo Bend and then you had

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Speaker 1: Lake Fork and then you had a meltdown on stage,

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Speaker 1: which you and I have talked about. But let's kind

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Speaker 1: of talk about Toledo Bend. Let's talk about these tournaments

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Speaker 1: because they didn't set up the exact way that you

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Speaker 1: liked to fish, right, But what did you learn from

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Speaker 1: those tournaments?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Looking back on it, I mean as far as a

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Speaker 3: job standpoint, I probably didn't need to be as stubborn

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Speaker 3: as I was with the you know how the fish

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Speaker 3: were setting up like they weren't on the bank, they

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Speaker 3: weren't coming to the bank.

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Speaker 2: And to be honestly, it was cold.

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Speaker 3: The weather set up right like it was cold when

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Speaker 3: we got there for Toledo.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And the.

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Speaker 3: Water was high and it was it was on a

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Speaker 3: warming trend on a full moon like the middle of February.

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Speaker 3: It takes It's like your mind's just like, Okay, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna show up. They're gonna show up, and man, the

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Speaker 3: bite actually got worse every day the warmer it got.

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Speaker 2: I don't. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen is

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Speaker 2: that because the water was high, it wasn't really high.

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Speaker 3: It's just Toledo had been so low for so many years,

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Speaker 3: Like it's actually real close to full pool, so a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff has grown up, Like there's a lot

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Speaker 3: like you got less and less bites every day. And

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Speaker 3: it wasn't pressure because nobody was fishing the bank. It

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Speaker 3: was just like the first day, I had a really

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Speaker 3: good day and it actually was looking up. I caught

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Speaker 3: what I weighed in like eighteen and a half the

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Speaker 3: first day by like lunch, and I kind of just

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Speaker 3: I went, so I was like looking forward to the

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Speaker 2: And I don't. The only thing I can figure.

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Speaker 3: Out is the wind blew real hard on the first day,

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Speaker 3: which didn't bother me fishing wise, because I was, you know,

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Speaker 3: way back in someplace.

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Speaker 1: That should well.

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Speaker 3: What I think it did was I think toled had

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Speaker 3: been so big and it's so deep it turned it.

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Speaker 2: It basically flipped the water.

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Speaker 3: Because what happened is I got back to where I

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Speaker 3: started the first day the second morning, and the water

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Speaker 3: temperature had dropped five degree and it wasn't anything.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The wind like flipped the water, and I really think

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Speaker 3: it just pulled them back off and like kind of

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Speaker 3: put them in shock. The shallower fish, like because I

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Speaker 3: caught two like way off the bank, like I just

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Speaker 3: happened to and I did catch one off Livescope. I

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Speaker 3: was going around a dog and I just happened to

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. I know it was just

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Speaker 3: the sin man, the sin but but that's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: like they just I think they just kind of went

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Speaker 3: dropped five degrees. I don't feel comfortable up there no more. Because,

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Speaker 3: caught some flipping dogs, and then it just got real bad.

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Speaker 1: And well, typically like if the water is coming up

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Speaker 1: the fishermen in you everything that you've learned tells you

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, enough of them to do good, not

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Speaker 3: the not the vast majority, because there's so many bass

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Speaker 3: that you know, did the forward facing deal out there,

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Speaker 3: like it wasn't in their brain yet to like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: just got to flood the bank all go, you know,

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Speaker 1: Sixty one sixty two. Is that where they like the

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Speaker 3: I know Toledo been an expert, but I think sometimes

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Speaker 3: in the springtime we get a shallow fishman get real

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Speaker 3: it hit it swist right, that's right. I think, Like

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Speaker 3: now if you've had it, if it's been sixty like

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Speaker 3: it won't be bad, but we'll have another cold snap.

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Speaker 3: But it mean springs pretty much here, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then but that's I mean that's typical March. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: typical March early April, like you get you get these

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have like a like a BlackBerry winter and

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Speaker 3: all that, Like it'll it'll be real cold.

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Speaker 2: It's always cold.

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Speaker 3: Around you know, Easter, you know that first week of March,

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Speaker 3: down there to get cold again. I mean, I remember

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Speaker 1: Degree yeah side, but it pretty good morning, ya, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I love a cloudy A cloudy cold morning is the best.

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Speaker 3: on turkey hunting wise, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The Tlida men didn't work and I had some execution

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Speaker 3: issues bad on Toledo the second day.

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Speaker 2: I mean I ended up.

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Speaker 3: I think I ended up having nine bites all day

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Speaker 2: It flew over the boat and come off.

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Speaker 1: The rainbow.

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Speaker 3: Yes, pretty much, pretty much. I had I had a

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Speaker 2: Was my march.

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Speaker 3: He was like, man, it just ain't your day. Like, no,

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Speaker 3: I mean some days it is, some days it ain't.

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Speaker 1: Last night I was helping a buddy of mine set

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Speaker 1: up a bass cat with some new Solix fifteens from Hummingbird.

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Speaker 2: With all the did you say multiple fifteenth No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, he's one, he's got two, he's got on

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Speaker 1: Everything right, just those two things. But it's not like

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Speaker 1: out to test it, make sure megi live look good,

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Speaker 1: So I'm flipping a dock and Literally I felt the

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Speaker 2: I love it when them little spots.

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Speaker 1: Dude, they're so aggressive, like he wade like maybe one one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that boy went for a ride before

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Speaker 1: he got in the boat. Again. No, he's gonna he's

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Speaker 2: He gonna be hesitant about that thing too.

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Speaker 1: So what would you have done differently? You know you

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Speaker 3: Definitely, you know, as you know, as much as I'm

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Speaker 3: definitely would have went out there and floated around for

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Speaker 1: Because I had a real word facing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, uh to fault you know those you know, the

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Speaker 3: suspended fish on the bait, just because I had a

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Speaker 3: really bad day of practice on the second day on

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Speaker 3: knew butter, and I just went shallow again. I wish

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Speaker 3: looking back on I wish that day I would have

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Speaker 3: went out there and just found an area, not trying

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Speaker 3: to you know, win the tournament or anything, just found

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Speaker 3: an area I could go get some dopplement, Yes to

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Speaker 3: where on that day too, when stuff wasn't happening real

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Speaker 3: good and you know I had to love was lost

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Speaker 3: fish where I could have still went and caught twelve

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Speaker 3: to check for sure. Now, you know, looking back, if

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Speaker 2: But that happens. But I didn't have any backup plan

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Speaker 2: as far you.

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Speaker 1: Got to find quality bites. I mean, you and I

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Speaker 1: have talked about the fact that, you know, like tournament fishing,

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Speaker 1: your job is to fit within the confines of the bank.

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Speaker 1: You got to go find the five biggest fish, right

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Speaker 1: if you ever win the tournament, you gotta do it

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Speaker 1: every day. You gotta do it four days in a row,

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Speaker 1: and you got to make those cuts in everything. So

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Speaker 1: sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't if you know that.

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Speaker 1: And this is what I felt just from being a

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Speaker 1: spectator and watching some of these tournaments. And this isn't you,

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Speaker 1: this is just you know, tournament anglers in the bass elites.

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Speaker 1: At the time when I was watching, it felt like

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys were trying to force a narrative

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Speaker 1: of I can do what you think you're doing off

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Speaker 1: shore better when I'm up shallow. But the fish quality

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the quality wasn't nor the quantity I thought, And I.

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Speaker 2: Dang glorified farm pond.

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Speaker 1: Right, So it's it's interesting that when we watched that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's fifty mean, every time we've been there.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's great that they did it. Like it's

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Speaker 3: Well, they're they're places, but it's like the average bass

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Speaker 3: like if you get a bye there, you don't catch

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Speaker 3: about that place? You don't catch a bunch of little one.

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Speaker 1: A bye, That's what I'm saying, Like you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: It's it's normally a good fish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't get many buys a second day,

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Speaker 3: it still had almost seventeen.

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Speaker 1: It's weird though, to think that a four pounder is

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Speaker 1: what was Hamder talking about? And he had he had

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Speaker 1: such a great line. He said, you know, I've never

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Man.

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Speaker 3: I caught a nine at Saint John's my second year

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Speaker 1: No, what's your personal best?

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Speaker 3: I've called a nine to fifteen on the Saint John's

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Speaker 2: I was seven, when I was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, soe you catch a fish like that. I had

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Speaker 1: this feeling after Hamner caught that eleven. You bring that

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honestly. The big one I caught when

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Speaker 3: It was a ten pounder.

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Speaker 2: When I caught it.

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Speaker 2: I ran down there.

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Speaker 3: Uh it was like the third fish I caught that day.

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Speaker 3: And I tried to boat flip it and.

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Speaker 2: The water downer found it. The water down there is

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Speaker 3: Now, I just flipping twenty pound line with a baby

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Speaker 3: But when I went to flip it, it wouldn't come up,

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Speaker 2: There's a giant. I was like, it's like a subn

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you were acting cool, Yeah, I get

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Speaker 3: I was like, I ain't got but three, dude, I

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Speaker 3: I boat flipped it because I thought it was like

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Speaker 2: Sure, because I had done looked at the big So

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Speaker 3: My dad was a coat and he's like, you got him.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I got too good with it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I got like an eight and a five.

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Speaker 3: He's like, gosh, dang. I was like, I ain't got

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Speaker 3: you know, not catching a keeper. So I had I

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna pull the big one out first,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a bigger one, and I opened

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Speaker 2: I was like, that was a smaller one, and I

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Speaker 1: But it's so funny because you're telling me that, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you at the time when you caught that,

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Speaker 1: Logan mode, Yes, if too probably West Logan just wants

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Speaker 1: So do you ever think, like if you caught let's

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Speaker 1: say you caught a ten pounder, legit ten, There's no

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Speaker 3: And that's why I tell people I've never caught a

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Speaker 1: I happen to a buddy of mine, Okachobe. He was

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Speaker 1: flipping some grass and he ended up flipping. He set

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Speaker 1: He couldn't move it. His co angler had to dip

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Speaker 1: The fish was so big it wouldn't fitting the net.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So he ended up reaching, you know, foot and a

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Speaker 1: pulling it in got him into the final day, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'll never claim my call on if.

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Speaker 1: You caught a ten pounder, you got your personal best

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Speaker 1: thought of you and would they allow that for you

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Speaker 1: mounted if you want it?

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Speaker 2: I think we can.

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Speaker 3: I think like they have you know, are holding tanks

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Speaker 3: say they would probably let Jeene get over there our

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Speaker 2: It for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And most of the time, like where you would catch

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Speaker 3: get all the measurements.

440
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh good, all right, So there is there at least

441
00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,880
Speaker 1: is something where you can.

442
00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 3: You know in those states now and Alabama may be

443
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,520
Speaker 3: a little bit different, but I mean the only place

444
00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,360
Speaker 3: you might would catch one in Obama is honors one.

445
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,280
Speaker 3: We're not going there. But Texas and Florida are always

446
00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,200
Speaker 3: very adamant. They'd always have a you know, an officer

447
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960
Speaker 3: there or you know whoever whatever you would call them,

448
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,520
Speaker 3: just especially Fork in Toledo like that was there was

449
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,600
Speaker 3: people everywhere taking you know, samples of those big fish

450
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,360
Speaker 3: and stuff just because. In another shout out to Texas

451
00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,800
Speaker 3: Parks and Wildlife all the stuff they do with those

452
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,960
Speaker 3: big fish, Like that's that's why you're able to go

453
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,920
Speaker 3: to Fork and catch one hundred and thirty pounds every time.

454
00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,600
Speaker 1: You would not believe the amount of people that texted

455
00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,600
Speaker 1: me and call me after like four can see in

456
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,919
Speaker 1: the weights and have said to me like we're playing

457
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,679
Speaker 1: the trip to go out there. Oh is that is

458
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 1: that a spot that you would want to just go

459
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,240
Speaker 1: and fun fish?

460
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,359
Speaker 2: No?

461
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 3: No, not a fan really no, I just I mean, yeah,

462
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,800
Speaker 3: you'll catch a big one for I shouldn't have said

463
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,280
Speaker 3: it like that.

464
00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,439
Speaker 2: I just man it.

465
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 1: But it's not your style.

466
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't like it. Like it.

467
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,119
Speaker 3: I'll go there and fish the tournament. But the way

468
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,199
Speaker 3: you can't, you don't win there. Fishing traditionally most of

469
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,479
Speaker 3: the time it's either a livescope deal or you know,

470
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,120
Speaker 3: offshore on hard spots and you know, real big swim baits.

471
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,959
Speaker 1: Because where where is a fun place for you? Like

472
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,879
Speaker 1: if you were going to set a trip to just

473
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,800
Speaker 1: go on a fishing trip, where would you want to go?

474
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,439
Speaker 2: Mmm, I don't know.

475
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,399
Speaker 3: Probably somewhere in Florida. Yeah, just because I mean I

476
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 3: might be my favorite thing work.

477
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, no, no, god no, Well.

478
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 1: You just went down there because it just went off limits.

479
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,639
Speaker 1: So you got in there before that happened. How do

480
00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 1: we feel.

481
00:18:59,320 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't matter.

482
00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 3: I I put a lot of hours on my yamaha.

483
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,479
Speaker 2: I know that I didn't fish a whole lot. I

484
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 2: just wanted to go.

485
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 1: Down there spot.

486
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and truthfully, like people look at that, man,

487
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 3: a place ain't that big? Well, the problem is to

488
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 3: get from one lake to another is an hour worth

489
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,640
Speaker 3: of time because of all the idols.

490
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 2: On the stuff.

491
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 3: Yes, but like you you could drive there in five minutes,

492
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 3: but by you know, by car. I just wanted to

493
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: get down there and you know, try and see how

494
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 3: everything's laying out, kind of decide where I want to

495
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 3: spend my time in practice to fish because I've never

496
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 3: been able to go down there and not have the

497
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 3: stress of two and a half days of practice, like

498
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 3: I gotta find them, I gotta find them, I gotta

499
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 3: find him and miss something in a lake, you know,

500
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 3: trying to get to the next lake. So I just

501
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: want to go spend some time, put some hours, you know,

502
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 3: idland and you know, I don't know, I caught a few,

503
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 3: but the well from there went to the Saint John's.

504
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 3: Just got back from the Saint John's last night at

505
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 3: like midnight.

506
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

507
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 3: I really liked the Saint John's a lot. I've done

508
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 3: very well there. It sets up like a river there.

509
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 3: It is tidal, but it doesn't move a lot. It

510
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 3: just kind of repositions.

511
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: That's a manage area, right, Like they have a lot

512
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 1: of locks and all that kind of stuff to keep

513
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: the water at a certain level.

514
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 3: No, there's only one really, there's only one going into

515
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: Rodman Reservoir.

516
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 2: The hairs chain. They regulate.

517
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 1: It's always like Nokobe is regulated like crazy.

518
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's regulated all by a lot in multiple ways. Yeah. Absolutely.

519
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: You know while you were gone, I was, uh, I

520
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: spent I got I feel like I lived on Gunnersville

521
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 1: because I had four or five different tournaments up there

522
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 1: and then ended up having a club tournament up there,

523
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: and I caught my biggest big.

524
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 2: The picture I've seen the picture you sent me six founder.

525
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: I felt really good.

526
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: How'd you catch it? Jig flipping or dragon? Uh?

527
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: Well, it didn't really get me an opportunity. I cast

528
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: it to the bank, I set one crank, it hit

529
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: a rock in boom, and I set the hook. And

530
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: as soon as I set the hook, there was no headshake, nothing,

531
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 1: but I knew that it wasn't a log and knew

532
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't a rock. And then all of a sudden,

533
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: just one little pull, just not like a you know,

534
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: mad that it got bit, just kind of like hey,

535
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: just so you know I'm here. Yeah, And then I

536
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: just started reeling and I thought it was a good fish,

537
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was a six pounder. I

538
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: thought it was, you know, maybe a three. And I'm

539
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: just reeling that fish is just coming with me, and

540
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 1: it was lethargic. And then I got on the boat

541
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: and I took one look at it and I was like, oh,

542
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: I know exactly why it was on bed. So it

543
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: was actively getting ready to spawn so immediately, and this

544
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: isn't a tournament, so I had to take it over.

545
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 1: And I kind of hated this about, you know, the

546
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: whole actively spawning thing, which is why I appreciate that

547
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: you guys in your tournament were having a wayfish and

548
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: then put them back in, because I think that's the

549
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: best way to manage it. I immediately got that fish

550
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: back in the water and tried to keep it as

551
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: stress free as possible. But yeah, I mean it was

552
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: it was an awesome fish to to grab it.

553
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: I will say one thing about the spawning thing with

554
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 3: the dude. From right now till the first June, every

555
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: bassbot you catch it's going to be in some process respawning.

556
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: So the bedfishing argument like kind of irks me a

557
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: little bit, Like, yeah, it's probably not great to pester

558
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 3: them to catch them.

559
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

560
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 3: You catch a female off the bed and you take

561
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: her away in she still got her eggs and her dude.

562
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: As soon as you let her go, Oh yeah, she's

563
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 3: just gonna go find somebody else, Like like bass aren't loyal,

564
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: they don't they can't comprehend, Like I gotta go, I

565
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: gotta go find my boyfriend or I'm gonna spit my

566
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 3: eggs out in the little.

567
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: Family.

568
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 2: Definitely not.

569
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: Like that's my favorite argument about everything in the outdoors.

570
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, in the outdoor world, people have called it

571
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: the Disney effect because we glorify like this idea that

572
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: animals actually have families. They definitely don't, you know, especially

573
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: with deer like you all that kind of stuff. It's like,

574
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: I understand, we want to think that daddy, you know,

575
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: daddy buck is over here and he's watching over that

576
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: that buck don't care.

577
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: I mean one, I mean the.

578
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: Dough literally has to run off her her spot, her

579
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: button buck or he will get to a point where

580
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: he's trying to, you know, do a little incestation.

581
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't want that.

582
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: No, nokay, that's that's when Badgeneti's come d.

583
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: And then and then you have you know, the fish population.

584
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: It's like they put their eggs out, the buck comes over,

585
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: does what he's gonna do. The fry grow up. He's

586
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: guarding those and then then he neats them. The mom

587
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: and the buck will end up eating something else. So

588
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: I mean, they have no idea.

589
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: They're just trying to.

590
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: Say the spade.

591
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's here's the next thing, Like mass

592
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: don't spawn just one time, like one female doesn't spawn

593
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: one time, like she'll do it multiple times.

594
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: Especially you know in the.

595
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: Warmer sort, it's like nine months over the year, it's

596
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: a bomb. You know, that water gets to sixty five

597
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, people are looking really shallow

598
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: and trying to find some of those hard bottoms to

599
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: go after them.

600
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: One of the things that I did notice though, and

602
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: this happened in the tournament. I want to get your

603
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: opinion on it, because my opinion is we need to

604
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: do away with these inflatable life jackets. I'm just not

605
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: a huge fan of because I've seen so many stories

606
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: that have come out over the last couple of years

607
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: of them not going off when they should, people having

608
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: real serious accidents and the life jacket not operating the

609
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: way they should, or a guy's just riding around it

610
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: starts raining it blows up on them. That happened in

611
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: our tournament. A guy ended up catching a pretty decent wave.

612
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: There's a lot of wind on Gunnersville. It hit his

613
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: dude's vest and it popped. So, you know, I'm I'm

614
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: a real big fan of having a life jacket that

615
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: is just a life jacket. There's no other thing that

616
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: needs to happen. What's your opinion on some of these inflatables?

617
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: So I mean truthfully, I mean I wear one. I

618
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: wear a Mustang, like one of the real high dollar ones, and.

619
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: I have a Mustang that it's not a full and problem.

620
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mind is one of the I don't know

621
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: the particular name of it. We get one from Yamaha

622
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 3: or I got one from Yamaha last year, and it's

623
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: really convenient, Like I think that's why everybody's on board

624
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: with it. Like it's not hot, it's not bulky. But again,

625
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: and I'm not knocking the companies that make them. There's

626
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 3: just always room for error with those things to where

627
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: you know, dude, I even think about it, like when

628
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: I'm running around, I'm like, it literally runs through my

629
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: mind sometimes I'm like, dude, if I were to wreck,

630
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't know one hundred percent if this thing would.

631
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: Keep me up right right?

632
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah it's nice. Yeah, they're expensive. Yeah, it's in

633
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: the green. You know, it has the little monitor, little gauge, Like, yeah,

634
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: it's in the green. Everything's good, but there's if you were.

635
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: If we were to take it to where you have

636
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: to wear a normal one, which one I wouldn't be against.

637
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: I've only been wearing an inflatable probably three or four years.

638
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: That you would take out all the guests work. There

639
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: would be no chance that it doesn't work in case.

640
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 3: You don't ever want anything bad to happen, but it's

641
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: inevitable it's gonna happen.

642
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: And what was And I don't know the reason. You know,

643
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I grew up wakeboarding and water skiing and jet skis

644
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, so for me, like

645
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: a neoprene life jacket was pretty regular. And then when

646
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: I got my first bass boat, you know, I ride

647
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: a Phoenix, and Phoenix has and I'm sure Skeeter does

648
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: this too. They've got branded life jackets and they're a

649
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: full vest.

650
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

651
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: We're guys just tired of wearing a full vest, so

652
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: they wanted something a little smaller. Because I'm gonna be honest,

653
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: when I'm practicing, it's not practicing for a tournament, it's

654
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: just me fun fishing. I don't wear a lifejacket when

655
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm driving my boat. Yeah, And I know some people

656
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: are like you should, you know, it's still a two

657
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty horse motor and it's still high powered.

658
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, you.

659
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: Can have the same issue whether you're in a tournament

660
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: or not. But I don't know. I mean, when I'm

661
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: in a tournament, I wear that Mustang that I have

662
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: that's three layers, yeah, but one of them is always.

663
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: A vest, right. Yeah.

664
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: The I kind of get freaked out a little bit

665
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: even if I'm just out there messing around without a

666
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: life jacking on. If I'm just like literally putting around

667
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: at neely or something like just you know, running thirty

668
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: mine hour here and then thirty mile an hour across

669
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: the lake. Like I don't wear one like you're talking about,

670
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: but if I've got to like run pretty hard just

671
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: because I've seen crazy stuff happen, like you know, prop

672
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: chefs break or lower units getting knocked off in the boat.

673
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: You know, anything can happen at any time. So it

674
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: kind of freaks me out not to have one on.

675
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: But I think the fad with the inflatable was the

676
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: pros got them first. And this is before like when

677
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: I was in like young the pros got them first,

678
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: and you know how when that happens once once we

679
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: get something. Everybody's got to have it, like it's the

680
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: best thing in the world. And I think it all

681
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: started from the hot summer months. Like it wasn't bulky,

682
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: it was real, you know, compact it doesn't take a

683
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: lot of storage up. So I think that's the biggest

684
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: takeaway from it. But again I don't there's always that

685
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: thought in the back of your mind, like, dude, it

686
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 3: could not go off and then you're done, Like if

687
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: you if you wreck by yourself and that doesn't go off,

688
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: which it's not gonna be a good situation either way,

689
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: but at least the regular one will keep you up.

690
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's been my whole thing, is if I

691
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: get knocked unconscious, which is a good.

692
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Possibility if you're in the boat wreck, Yes, if.

693
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: You get knocked unconscious, I want that one thing that's

694
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: keeping my head above water. Yeah, because when I come to,

695
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm good.

696
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look here, I ain't afraid to die. But

697
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to encourage the situation. You know, I'm

698
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: not trying to fast track it, you know what I'm saying, Like,

699
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we ain't just gonna go out there and

700
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: go though you know, we run through a bridge or

701
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: something like.

702
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you've got a couple of tournaments coming up.

703
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I know you're you're in town for a little bit.

704
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: The bass Master Classic is on the way, you guys

705
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: get back on the elite schedule. You've got the MPFL.

706
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: There's been a conversation that has popped up. I've heard

707
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: a couple of people mention it in the pro world,

708
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: but I've also heard a lot of people just in

709
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: general talking about it. When y'all are fishing a big tournament,

710
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: whether it's an elite tournament or one of the biggest,

711
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: the bass Master Classic, or if you're a fan of

712
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: MLF the Red Crest or just one of their tournaments,

713
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: and you know that you have one hundred, one hundred

714
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: and fifteen boats that are out on the water. Do

715
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: pros or do people want recreational fishermen to be on

716
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: the water at the same time, or do you kind

717
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: of wish that it was open?

718
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Well? What do you mean when you say open?

719
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Well, open to like you guys, and you.

720
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Know that like all limits to everybody but us.

721
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I hate the idea of closing down water because

722
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm the type of person where I say, you go

723
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: out and fish, Yeah, there's a turn, but like Red

724
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Crest is on Laylake, I'm gonna have a hard time

725
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: putting my boat in at Laylake and trying to run

726
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: around and duplicate what some of the pros are doing.

727
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: So I don't want to fish actively when they are.

728
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: But it's such a big body of water. I could

729
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: potentially go out and fish.

730
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

731
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: Uh so my opinion, which is worth about two or

732
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: three cents worth maybe to everybody here lately, but my

733
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: opinion on it is, dude, I wouldn't I love people

734
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: being out there watching, like, dude.

735
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: It's so cool, But what about fishing.

736
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'm getting to that. I'm trying.

737
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: I'm trying to lay it all out for everybody. I

738
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: want to paint the whole picture because here lately, I've

739
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: learned that I need to put it all out there

740
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: before I say what I'm gonna say. So, dude, like

741
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: having people follow you and not even like like I've

742
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: fished around here locally and have my friends and family

743
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: follow me. That's great, but like random people on random

744
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: lakes on some of our LEA tournaments, like they will

745
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: literally like they're fans of you. Like they want to

746
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: watch you, and when you catch one, dude, them cheering

747
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: for you is the coolest thing ever. Like it's just

748
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: it's awesome, Like we don't have a crowd out there

749
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: when we're actually doing what we're doing.

750
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Like a basketball player, a baseball player.

751
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: So like having that interaction like in person, like them

752
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: cheering you on, like or if you lose one, man,

753
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: they're real like encouraging, like come on, man, you know,

754
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: put your head back down.

755
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: You're good.

756
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: It Like it's just a cool little deal. With that

757
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: being said, because you stage wor fishing.

758
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: Yes, it's really awesome, Like I really love that about

759
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: the whole sport because they're allowed to be out there.

760
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Like it's just a whole cool deal about fishing in general.

761
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: I have had instances where and I'm not I don't

762
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: know who it was. It may or may not have

763
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: happened to me at Logan Martin this past NPFL tournament,

764
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: but I had some guys that were watching me, and

765
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: I've had it have in other places, but this is

766
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: just the most recent on a couple of little I'm

767
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: not gonna call them sneaky places, but not obvious places,

768
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: and they were watching me and they kept their distance.

769
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: They were like everything was cool.

770
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: And then I run, I pick up, run to the

771
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: next one, and I to get back to where like

772
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: later in the day, to get back to where I'm going,

773
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: I have to run by this place and they're sitting

774
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: on it fishing. And I'm not gonna say they didn't

775
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: know it was there. Yes, I'm like, so, which is fine,

776
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: Like you're out there trying to learn. But the only

777
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: thing I would ask of people is and I never

778
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: said anything. I would never like, that's not professionally, It's

779
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: not my place to say something to them. I would

780
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: just ask for people to be a lot more respectful

781
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: during the tournament hours, you know. So what I'm saying

782
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: from we got it from seven o'clock to three o'clock. Like, dude,

783
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: if you want to watch me catch thirty five pounds

784
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: off of place and at three thirty way in starts

785
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: you want to ropper and catch you some so be

786
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: it like we're.

787
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: In the grand scheme of things. The next weekend.

788
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, dude, mark mark every place I'm going, Like

789
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: you come out there, You're taking time out of your

790
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: day to learn what I've learned, Like that's part of

791
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: that's why we're out there to teach people how to

792
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: fish better. They learn what stretch of docks are good

793
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: or whatever. But and I've just seen it happening over

794
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: and over again. And man, I've had a couple instances

795
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: where I've had people like very maliciously and intentionally try

796
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: to ruin my fishing day and the little ball of

797
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: hate comes out because you you kind of and I've

798
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: had marshals in my boat when it happens and they're like, dude,

799
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna say something. I'm like, I don't know if

800
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: I really should. And multiple times they have said, dude,

801
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: he's trying to ruin your day, like on purpose. I

802
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: feel like you really need to say something. I don't

803
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: would did not disagree with it at all, and then

804
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: you kind of take it from there. And dude, I've

805
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: we've almost had instances where we've had to call the

806
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: tournament directors and get law enforcement involved because it's gotten

807
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: so bad. Oh sure like it harassment, Yeah, you can't

808
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 3: do this stuff like you know you got and not

809
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: even like talking about like the bank stuff, like the

810
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: docks situation, like the private property that I'm not even

811
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: talking about that I'm talking about people on the water

812
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: that go out there and do like go mess people

813
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: up on purpose.

814
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: I pulled up on a huh, this is on Lake Lanier,

815
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: this is three years ago, and I'm fishing a hump.

816
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: And this hump is no bigger than fifty feet by

817
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: one hundred. I mean it's small, but there was a

818
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: good concentration to fish our on top of it. Literally,

819
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm fishing lines in the water, the whole deal. And

820
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I had this guy come by in a center console

821
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: with you know. But he comes by and he's got

822
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, his wife in the boat, and he's got

823
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: his two kids, and literally he goes right on top

824
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: of where my line is and grat like fumbles a

825
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: rod and basically throws it out right. And I just

826
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: gave him the look of like what are you doing?

827
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Like can't you see my lines in the Literally so

828
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: I didn't say a word, but he knew that he

829
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: did something wrong because he goes what ye lake, And

830
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: I said, dude, I can appreciate that you're allowed to

831
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: fish it, but there's a respect level of like you

832
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: don't come in on somebody who's actively fishing. If I

833
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: was just sitting here, then I wasn't doing right by

834
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: kind of claiming my ground for that minute, and then

835
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: as soon as the troller motor comes up, dude, have

836
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: at it. You want to. This guy ends up doing

837
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: circles around me.

838
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: Imagine that.

839
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: And I went, you're making this worse for yourself. And

840
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: of course everybody has a phone now, you know, so

841
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: you can record everything. So I'm a big fan of

842
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: the respect side, which is I'm not going to tell

843
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: you that in the middle of a tournament you can't

844
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: go out because let's look at the elites. The elites

845
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: are one hundred and four, one hundred and five guys.

846
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: That's small in comparison to some of the tournaments that

847
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: happen on lakes. Oh god, it will befl It's two

848
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty boats, right, So why would we give

849
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: more respect to the elites who have one hundred and

850
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: five boats compared to a lake that's getting two hundred

851
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: and fifty boats. That's way more packed than anything else.

852
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: But the respect is everything. If I see somebody's fishing,

853
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm not going to cut in front of them. I'm

854
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: not going to pull up on them. I'm not going

855
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: to wait for them to leave and then just go

856
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: in and try to work that whole, especially if I

857
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: saw him catch a bunch of fish. Yeah, that's that's

858
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: the work. You're gonna come back to that absolutely. Yeah.

859
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: So look, dude, here's what I tell people a lot,

860
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: and the worst one I've ever just a quick little

861
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: rundown at a couple of years ago at across Wisconsin,

862
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: I caught one on a little shallow bar and there

863
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: was a you know, an eighteen nineteen foot aluminum boat

864
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: John Boat, a guy and his son. I caught a

865
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: small mouth dude, I boat flip it, I put it

866
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: in the lava. I look up and they're coming at

867
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: me at one hundred on their trollinger wide open, and

868
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: like they don't have power poles and stuff. So do

869
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: they get there and it kind of like washes up

870
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: on it and they literally beached their boat on top

871
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: of the bar like a dude I could throw I

872
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: could throw my spook halfway cast underhanded and landing their boat.

873
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're saying it was a little close.

874
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: It was.

875
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: It was pretty bad. It was pretty bad.

876
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: And man, to be like, I don't know if it

877
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: was just I don't know if they didn't like us

878
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: being there or but the kid probably I call it.

879
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: A kid twelve to sixteen.

880
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: Dude, I've never been doll cussed so bad in my life,

881
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: and I've been cussed pretty bad, and dude, he just

882
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: lit into me because I kind of like threw my

883
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: hands up and the dad's just sitting there and I'm

884
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: just like it kind of shell shocked me a little bit.

885
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: But like, that's one of the worst instances I've had.

886
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: But what I try and tell people is, like the

887
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: few times I've gotten into a conversation with people about it,

888
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, man, Monday morning, I'm just gonna go

889
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: ahead and let you know. I'm gonna be at your job.

890
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take your computer when you get to your

891
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: desk job, and I'm not gonna let you in. I'm

892
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: gonna lock the door. Let me know how good you

893
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: can do your job when you get there, let me

894
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: know if you're gonna get paid. And they just kind

895
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: of sit there and they're like, well, it's not the same.

896
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: I was like, but you're.

897
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: Keeping me from doing my job to feed my family,

898
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: to feed my wife, and you know, to put you know,

899
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: pay the bills, keep my lights on. Right, So look

900
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: at it from that instance, like, dude, if I showed

901
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: up and took your microphone away or kept you from

902
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: talking in your microphone, could you do the radio show?

903
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: I could do the radio show, but I am fairly

904
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: loud without it. Yeah, I'm with.

905
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: You, but you know what I get.

906
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: But that comes down to respect. That's and that's what

907
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: it ultimately is. Like you're never going to tell somebody

908
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: you can't be No, absolutely no.

909
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: I never get to.

910
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Shut the water down. But there is a respect level

911
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: because if you wouldn't want it to happen to you,

912
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: then don't do it to somebody else. It's like the gold, the.

913
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: Gold run like and which I mean speaking of that,

914
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: like we've lost a lot of that, like you know,

915
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: the whole just that instance in.

916
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Gene want to start podcast part two and we can

917
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: talk all about that. Not yet now that's all run

918
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: away from everyday life.

919
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely