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Speaker 1: like I don't even want to be there, or it

426
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Speaker 1: wasn't working out and you knew it, it's still there's

427
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Speaker 1: a shot to your pride. There's a shot to your ego.

428
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Speaker 1: Any ambitious person doesn't like No human being likes to fail.

429
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Speaker 1: I'd say that's like a human you know, reaction anytime

430
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Speaker 1: someone tells you you're not good enough. It's hard, no

431
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Speaker 1: matter how much you can look in the mirror and

432
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Speaker 1: accept the reality of whatever that situation is. But I

433
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Speaker 1: do think second chances are really powerful. And I think

434
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Speaker 1: a big reason second chances are so powerful is because

435
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Speaker 1: you have that experience to build on. Right, Like my

436
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: radio career now again, I was working for the second

437
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Speaker 1: rate radio that wasn't generating any money, that just the

438
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Speaker 1: station had some issues. Right, We're going up against a

439
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Speaker 1: brand that has the San Francsco Giants and the forty

440
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Speaker 1: nine ers, and it was very difficult. But there were

441
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Speaker 1: things that I did. In terms of this business, and

442
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Speaker 1: Colin said it the other night, a huge part of

443
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Speaker 1: this business is revenue and a huge part of the

444
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Speaker 1: revenue comes from the salespeople, and I've spent a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of time getting to know salespeople, whether it's at Diheart

446
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Speaker 1: or people that deal with the podcast. They are the lifeblood,

447
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Speaker 1: you know. Note like Dionce is recruiting all these college

448
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Speaker 1: coaches recruiting. The lifeblood in my business is sales and

449
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: selling revenue. And you can only go as far. But

450
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't gone through

451
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: previous experiences, because I'm not some guy that grew up

452
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Speaker 1: in the radio business. In my twenties, I was working

453
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Speaker 1: in football and Zach Wilson last year was an utter disaster,

454
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was self inflicted. Right, he

455
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: played poorly a lot of guys have in the history

456
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Speaker 1: of the sport. Welcome to the club, right, But when

457
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't take blame when he was saying things that

458
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: were clearly pissing off his teammates, like come on, man,

459
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: you gotta have some common sense. So you get a

460
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Speaker 1: guy now who I don't know how much better he is,

461
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: but some guys improve. Now. I'm not acting like he's

462
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Speaker 1: gonna show up and be Aaron Rodgers, but if he

463
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Speaker 1: has any sort of eq and just feel for the

464
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Speaker 1: room and just has done some self reflection over the

465
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Speaker 1: last six eight months when they traded for Rodgers and

466
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Speaker 1: he kind of got to sit back and take second

467
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Speaker 1: team reps. He can really learn from that experience and

468
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Speaker 1: that can help him moving forward. Now does that translate

469
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Speaker 1: ultimately in football? You got to be able to complete

470
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Speaker 1: deep outs, you gotta have touch on the wheel route

471
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Speaker 1: when you're getting pressured, like there is a level of

472
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Speaker 1: all that intangible stuff. You got to get it done

473
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Speaker 1: on the field, which was very alarming last year, just

474
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Speaker 1: some of his basic passes air mailing balls in the flat.

475
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Speaker 1: But in terms of the person, he's getting a second chance. Now,

476
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Speaker 1: no one trusts me, whether you're a Jets fan or not.

477
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Speaker 1: No one wanted this to happen. We wanted to watch

478
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron Rodgers currently in a hospital bed

479
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Speaker 1: with a ripped achilles. So this guy who saw I mean,

480
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: it couldn't gone any worse last year. If he can't

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Speaker 1: take some of those lessons that he learned through just

482
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Speaker 1: you know, adversity, which, like I said, self inflicted a

483
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Speaker 1: decent amount of it, then that's on him because he's

484
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Speaker 1: been given a second chance now on a team that's

485
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Speaker 1: pretty freaking good, even better than last year, Like their

486
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Speaker 1: defense should be better, and offensively they've added a running back,

487
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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's a year better. So I'm very interested to

488
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Speaker 1: watch how this plays out. Another guy in my backyard,

489
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Speaker 1: the Giants are playing the Cardinals this week. Who you know,

490
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Speaker 1: I was pretty confident that the Cardinals would give up,

491
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Speaker 1: you know, a decent fight on the road against Washington.

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Speaker 1: Didn't quite win it, but that was my ball tap,

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Speaker 1: which we'll get into a second. Daniel Jones. I defended,

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Speaker 1: I guess to a level with the contract and just

495
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Speaker 1: they were kind of stuck, though they probably could have

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Speaker 1: gone about it a different way. Regardless, they paid him

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Speaker 1: what they paid him. The dude's making forty million dollars

498
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Speaker 1: a year and he threw fifteen touchdowns last year, and

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Speaker 1: before last year started, he was basically universally considered a

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Speaker 1: bust and a bad player. Last week was bad, right,

501
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Speaker 1: wasn't all his fault, the whole thing they got boat raced.

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Speaker 1: But he was not good either. He was actually atrocious.

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Speaker 1: Now he's playing the Cardinals and next Thursday night is

504
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Speaker 1: the Niner game. So they're gonna be a huge underdog,

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Speaker 1: probably loose. He better find a way to play well

506
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Speaker 1: this week because if he doesn't, even if they win

507
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Speaker 1: and then they get their ass kicked by the Niners.

508
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Speaker 1: I lived in the Northeast for a couple of years.

509
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Speaker 1: There's like a negativity that's almost like an avalanche that

510
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Speaker 1: it starts coming. It starts coming, and then once it grows,

511
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Speaker 1: kind of like that snowball rolling down the hill effect,

512
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Speaker 1: it gets so big there's no stopping it, and I

513
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Speaker 1: could see it getting away from the Giants a little bit.

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Speaker 1: On Daniel Jones, it would be if I'm Brian Daball,

515
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Speaker 1: I find a way we can get Saquon going whatever,

516
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Speaker 1: Like I need to get him like three or four

517
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Speaker 1: touchdowns this week against Arizona. This is a team that

518
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Speaker 1: we all think is gonna be dog shit. Their coaching

519
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: staff's not that great. Uh, definitely, their players aren't that great.

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Speaker 1: Dan Jones needs a big game, and last but not least, eventually,

521
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Speaker 1: this guy's gotta draw a line in the sand. You know,

522
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Speaker 1: He's either got to make some plays in the passing

523
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Speaker 1: game or we just gotta acknowledge he just might not

524
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Speaker 1: be that good. Like I could say Josh Allen like

525
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Speaker 1: after that game, Like, let's say Josh Allen have a

526
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Speaker 1: bad month before we all write the guy off resume

527
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. But Justin Fields is just your classic.

528
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Speaker 1: People annointed him, people thought he was gonna be sweet,

529
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Speaker 1: and it's just not even last year when it wasn't

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Speaker 1: going well. I have no problem, and I'll always do this.

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Speaker 1: If I like a guy, I'll be excited for him

532
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Speaker 1: and I'll root for him. But after a couple of years,

533
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Speaker 1: like you, eventually, that's the thing with the football. You

534
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Speaker 1: eventually got to make some plays, right. I say this

535
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Speaker 1: all the time. I'm in the stock market. You can

536
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Speaker 1: invest ten grand into a stock you like. If six

537
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Speaker 1: months later that thing's three thousand dollars, you got some problems.

538
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Speaker 1: It might be time to reevaluate some stuff, right, And

539
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Speaker 1: positive momentum is important in any walk of life, and

540
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: right now, Justin Fields has no positive momentum. The only

541
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Speaker 1: positive momentum he's ever had is the off season, when

542
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: there's no substance behind it. It's just coach is kind

543
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: of talking, and he plays the Packers and he looked terrible.

544
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Speaker 1: He threw Fronder six yards an attempt in a game

545
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Speaker 1: where they were losing the majority of the game. So

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Speaker 1: I just think they're playing Todd Bowles, who had that

547
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Speaker 1: team flying around last week on the road. Is this

548
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Speaker 1: guy just gonna be I mean, essentially a bust or

549
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: is he ever just gonna make some plays? Because right

550
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: now the Bears have some serious issues and I'm just

551
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Speaker 1: for a game that if you told me a couple

552
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago Bears Bucks, I'd be like, I got

553
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Speaker 1: no interest in watching this. I got some interest, and

554
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be paying attention for sure. Let's get to

555
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Speaker 1: our Guinness Bold Take of the Week. That's a good beer. Okay,

556
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Speaker 1: here's the deal. And I've talked myself into this last week,

557
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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do this every week just to

558
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Speaker 1: do it, but early on I'm going to because I

559
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: think the season is weird. I took the Cardinals. I

560
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals were terrible. I just took them on

561
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Speaker 1: principle of week ones weird. Anything can happen these coaches whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Jets this week against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And I thought a lot about this during just during

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Speaker 1: the day on Thursday. If Aaron Rodgers was healthy, and

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Speaker 1: this was just a normal game, right, the Jets had won,

566
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys had won, You would take the Cowboys would

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Speaker 1: win this game at home. I would say eight and

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Speaker 1: a half out of ten times they would win this

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Speaker 1: game the majority of the times. But think about this,

570
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Speaker 1: they destroy the Giants, right, so you just naturally you

571
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Speaker 1: feel yourself a little bit. And then the guy that

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Speaker 1: they would have, even after an ass kicking that would

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Speaker 1: have kind of refocused them, would have been, Hey, we're

574
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Speaker 1: playing Aaron Rodgers. He terrors his achilles, so he's long gone.

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Speaker 1: And then you're getting Zach Wilson, who just if you

576
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Speaker 1: just say Zach Wilson to the average football fanily, but god,

577
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Speaker 1: he sucks. What a bust. We're humans. Football is full

578
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: of a bunch of humans. And these are young humans, right.

579
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Speaker 1: These are guys, especially the Cowboys, majority of their guys

580
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: twenty three to like twenty seven years old. You're playing

581
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Speaker 1: an elite defense, Dak. You know we haven't he hasn't proven.

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Speaker 1: He's just rolling again. I could just see the focus

583
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: being a little off, especially with their defense because Aaron's gone.

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Speaker 1: It happens all the time with like I've seen the

585
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Speaker 1: Niners do this the Cowboys the Eagles. When you have

586
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Speaker 1: like a thirteen to fourteen win team in December, you're

587
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Speaker 1: playing some team that's gonna be drafting in like top

588
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Speaker 1: six or seven. All of a sudden you look up

589
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Speaker 1: and that team has a lead in the fourth quarter

590
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: because those guys didn't take the week. Seriously, it's hard

591
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: to coach now. It's still early in the season, so

592
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like Dallas just gonna airmail or just

593
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, throw this thing to the side and not

594
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: even try. But I could see the focus this week

595
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Speaker 1: just being a little off given that Aaron's gone, and

596
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Speaker 1: maybe a little upset. So that's my bold pick of

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00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: the week, Jets going to Dallas, upset them. Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Guinness. Gather your friends, raise your glasses, and

599
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Speaker 1: toast to win Guinness Drout Stout imported by Diagio Beer

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Speaker 1: Company USA, New York, New York. Live here on AMP

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Speaker 1: on a beautiful Thursday morning, September fourteenth, which officially marks

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Speaker 1: the start of Thursday Night football on Prime. Last week,

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Speaker 1: we obviously had a Thursday night game the opening game,

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Speaker 1: but it's not that's not I don't consider a true

605
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Speaker 1: Thursday night game because you're not on short rest. This

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Speaker 1: one is we're recording before the game. We have a

607
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Speaker 1: very good slate of NFL games. I mean we always

608
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Speaker 1: do college not as great, but here with my man Stucky,

609
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: who started red hot three to one in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We touched on Colorado last week, as well as the

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Speaker 1: Alabama Texas line, which was when it does settle that

612
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Speaker 1: that was stealing money. You can hear my man Stucky

613
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Speaker 1: big bets on campus. Go subscribe to that, follow them

614
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: on Action Network. They are all over everything gambling. They

615
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: were way ahead of the curve. They were on the

616
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Speaker 1: front lines before this thing got super mainstream. So Stucky,

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Speaker 1: what's up, brother, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: NFL, we should have swept if the Colts could get

620
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: one yard the first time I've ever seen the bush

621
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Speaker 3: push not work, and then Anthony Richardson gets hurt and

622
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew just throws away the cover. NFL teams get

623
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Speaker 3: in there niney nine percent of the time just hand

624
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Speaker 3: it off, it down two possessions at the one yard line.

625
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: So that was the super annoying cover. But it was

626
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Speaker 3: just good to be back in sweat. I also had

627
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Speaker 3: the Titans and Brabel decides to kick a field goal

628
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Speaker 3: down four, So that was beneficial just that three to

629
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Speaker 3: four o'clock hour if you're on the East coast or

630
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: twelve to one in the West. It's just good to

631
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Speaker 3: be back sweating those little plays all at once.

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Speaker 2: So it's good to have the NFL back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, you know, a little look back last week,

634
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Speaker 1: your guy Rabel, who to me is just a stud

635
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: as a dog, came through. I mean, they easily could

636
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Speaker 1: have won that game if their quarterback just wasn't atrocious.

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Speaker 1: And then the older version of Rabel, Tomlin not quite

638
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Speaker 1: as a dog at home that they got Mollie wopped.

639
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, what were some of your big takeaways from

640
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: week one from a gambling perspective looking forward? Beside obviously

641
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: you know the Rogers situation. I'm sure we'll actually hitting

642
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: on the Jets game coming up.

643
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Rabel and the Titans. Yeah, they also

644
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: had a clear would look like to me a clear

645
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: defensive tie. Well what it was it was, yeah, and

646
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: then they blew the whistle and then they said it

647
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: was they didn't overturn it in the game, basically a

648
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: ten point swing, which was massive. But yeah, my biggest

649
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: takeaways from Week one. The there's a lot of ugly

650
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: quarterback play. I think the yards per attempt across the

651
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: league was the lowest it's been in twenty years, So

652
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: there was just I mean, you look at some of

653
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: the average steps of target on some of these offenses,

654
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: and then some of just the ugly performances. Unders had

655
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: a really big day as a result. There was a

656
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: lot of injuries, like a lot of hamstring injuries in

657
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: leading up to and then during the game, and I

658
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: think that all traces back to just we now have

659
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: such a limited preseason, which I'm a fan of, but

660
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: you just don't use a lot of these quarterbacks. You

661
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: don't even see play at all during preseason, so there's

662
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: just not a lot of reps, and then you come

663
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: in pretty rusty and the defenses are for the most

664
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: part ahead of the offenses, and then because of those

665
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: lack of live game reps, you're at more at risk

666
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: of you know, hamstring injuries, growing injuries, which we saw

667
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: a number of. But that was something that stuck out

668
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: to me. The offenses were pretty ugly across the board,

669
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: with a few exceptions. You're Niners who were just rolling

670
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: like that last season never ended before the injuries. That

671
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: seems like they scored thirty every time out with Purdy now,

672
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: but yeah, the offenses should pick up here. It was

673
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: a really good weekend for Unders and ugly quarterback play.

674
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: You see did you see Trent Williams quote He said,

675
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: by about the third Steelers drive, he was so tired

676
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: because they would go three and out so quickly. He

677
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: started rooting for them to get first downs.

678
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to break.

679
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: He was rooting for the Skillers who at one point,

680
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: maybe in at the two minute warning, the first half

681
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: had one yard.

682
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: So I feel you.

683
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: It was bad. I you know what you said about

684
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: the preseason. I'm in agreement. I think most people are

685
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: in the league would say, listen the preseason games, we

686
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: didn't need four and if you play in the Hall

687
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: of Fame, game five it was outrageous. I think the

688
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: problem with some of these injuries is the way they're

689
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: allowed to practice. You know, no, no one's I think

690
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: the coaches, even in twenty twenty three, with how much

691
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: you're paying these guys aren't wouldn't be asking for like

692
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Junction Boys nineteen fifty, Bear Bryant, but they just would

693
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: like the opportunity to get you know, they basically a

694
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: lot of these teams go like three days on one

695
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: day off and very hesitant with pads because of the

696
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: rules that the owners. And this gets back to the

697
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: business of football. The players were like, we need more

698
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: days off and the owners were like, we need more money.

699
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: They're like deal, And the coaches obviously have no juice

700
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: or saying any of it, and they kind of get screwed.

701
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: And that's where the hamstring injuries. You just and listen.

702
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Tomlin was the guy hammering this like we

703
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: need to spar before we fight, and then he gets

704
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: his ass kicked. But I do think his logic on

705
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: that was correct. They just, you know, they just ran

706
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: into the wrong team.

707
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Yep. Now it's it's a really good point.

708
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: The practice, the practice times you allow with practice times

709
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: also contribute into that. So yeah, there's just a lot

710
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: of ross you should see offenses.

711
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: Start to pick up.

712
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: But in general it's trying to cross the NFL though

713
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: is you know, more too high stafeties take away the

714
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: explosive plays. So there's a lot it's the offenses look

715
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: a lot more dink and dunk efficient than they wear

716
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. As the NFL is always

717
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: an evolving game, so it's always interesting to watch that

718
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: on the year by your basis, how the you know,

719
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: the scheme adjustments on both sides of the ball in general.

720
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: One game we're not going to talk about, but just

721
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: from uh, from betting on these two teams, I find

722
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: them both pretty fascinating. See the Chargers, it's just really

723
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: hard to feel good going into a game, regardless of

724
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: their talent because their coach is such a wild card.

725
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: And then the Dolphins are kind of the opposite. I mean,

726
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: when they look awesome, it's like Jesus looks like a

727
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: video game. It looks like to is Alabama team, but defensively,

728
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: And we talked about this last week just in relation

729
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: to like the Bears in the Packer game, which played

730
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: out exactly like it's just a talent deficiency. But the

731
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: Dolphins on defense, like Vic Fangio's a stud. I'm sure

732
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: they're paying him four or five million dollars to be

733
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, but his players aren't that good. So

734
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: are they just gonna have to? Like? Is that a

735
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: team like an over and the Chargers is that just

736
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: a stay away until we see that they've changed at all,

737
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: because right now they feel like the same version we've

738
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: seen the last two years. This is kind of hold

739
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: on for your ass. Nine to ten wins quarterback looks sweet,

740
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: but weird shit's going to happen to them.

741
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

742
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: I did like the offensive changes that we saw with

743
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: the Chargers.

744
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: They I think that they upgraded up. I was a

745
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: big fan.

746
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: I know some Cowboys fans didn't like tell More, but

747
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: I've always been a fan and I like some of

748
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: the things I saw there. But the defense was pathetic.

749
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, those teams are kind of in the same

750
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: boat with the Dolphins. At Fangio one of the best

751
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: in the busines, but he all number one one, he

752
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: doesn't have the personnel that Ramsey injury really hurt. And

753
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: Savion Howard I think is a little past his prime

754
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: and you know it's but and he also runs a

755
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: pretty complex defense. Is just you know, it's on the

756
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: surface what he wants to do, you know, is preventing

757
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: the explosive plays and disguising you know, with the quarterback

758
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: sees pre stout. It's it's simple, but it is a

759
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: pretty complex defense. So there's there's an adjustment. It's not

760
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: going to be hey, first year Fangio, and then when

761
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: you don't know the players, that makes it even more difficult.

762
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, both those teams as of right now projectives

763
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: over teams that are gonna have to win and shootouts,

764
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: especially if they once they step up in class.

765
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, I love that.

766
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: You know, that game is really fascinating me because last

767
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: year the Chargers laid out a blueprint for how to

768
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: slow down that Miami offense.

769
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: That miam offans couldn't be stopped.

770
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: Until they played the Chargers, and then after that they

771
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: kind of got slowed down because everyone started pressing them

772
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 3: and making sure that the receivers were thrown off their timing,

773
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: and then they put more bodies in the middle of

774
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: the field and the adjustment, which was brilliant from the Dolphins,

775
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: And I figure, this is what you would see it, right,

776
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: They're playing the same team that kind of offered up

777
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: the kryptonite. And you saw Tyreek Hill and Waddell the

778
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: motions that they weren't motioning from one side of the

779
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: deal to the other. They were motioning just you know,

780
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: the pre staff motion, running before the staff, but just

781
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: on the same side of the field into the backfield,

782
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: and then out of the backfield, you know, up to

783
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: the tight end and then back just confusing the hell

784
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: out of the defense to know, how are we going

785
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: to double him? How I can't press him if he's

786
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: running like this. And so some of the pre staff

787
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: motion from the Dolphins was amazing. You know, the Patriots

788
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: have been a mess, but Belichick still puts together pretty

789
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: good defensive game plans. I'm curious to see what he

790
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: does this upcoming weekend against all that different motion that

791
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: we haven't seen before.

792
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: Okay, before we dive into the NFL's play, I know

793
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: there's a college game that you're kind of on, and

794
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I think he easily right now has the best nickname

795
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: in all of football, college or pro, and that Sunbelt Billy.

796
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: You know, Florida has become like the the Texas before

797
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: this year's Texas, where it's just like this, where coaches

798
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: go there to struggle, the hype grows, and then they

799
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: they underachieve. You know, Florida started this season out just

800
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: getting just looking terrible against Utah in a game we

801
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: were all watching, and I told you before we hopped on,

802
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: i'd heard that, you know, part of the transfer portals

803
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: a little like free agency. You go all in for

804
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and you end up he goes to Denver.

805
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: You end up without a quarterback, and I think they

806
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: wanted Sam Hartman and they ended up with Graham Mertz.

807
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: This Tennessee team, I mean, last year really took the

808
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: world by storm. Right that that game against Alabama and

809
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: the visuals of them carrying out the the upright was

810
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: really cool. I mean, that was that was a special

811
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: moment for a program. But as you were telling me

812
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: before we hopped out, they have not looked the same.

813
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: And Florida, this this is a home game. You're going

814
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: in on sun Belt Billy, I am reluctantly.

815
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: I think when he was in the Sunbelt after a

816
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: game when he was being announced on the when he

817
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: was being interviewed on the silence, he said, scare money,

818
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: don't make money, and let's a clip you always play

819
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: on our podcast. So I'm not going to be scared

820
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: here because this is mainly a fade of Tennessee and

821
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 3: their offense. You know, the flashy parts of their offense

822
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: were great last year and everyone remembers the deep bombs

823
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: to highlight who had a billion touchdowns against Alabama, and

824
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: obviously they lost a lot of that offense. They lost

825
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: their starting tackled the NFL, they lost two receivers the NFL,

826
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: and then Hendon Hooker, and the thing that Hooker gave them,

827
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: you know, he obviously could make all those deep throws,

828
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: but he was extremely accurate underneath. And that's kind of

829
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: the basis of this offense is you know, you you're

830
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: gonna get those deep shots, but you have to keep

831
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: the defense honest and you got to take what's there

832
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: underneath underneath, and then you're going to hit the deep shots.

833
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: And Milton just isn't accurate enough to get this offense,

834
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: which is a timing rhythm based offense, into any sort

835
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: of rhythm. I mean, they looked poor against Austin p

836
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: last weekend and there's a lot of drops and you know,

837
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: their their offensive line. They're still trying to figure out

838
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: their first team all preseason SEC center Cooper Mays he's

839
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: been out. We'll see if he can go this weekend.

840
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: So there's been a lot of guys shuffle. He also

841
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 3: lost a tackle to the NFL in the first round.

842
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: So the offense is just off right now. And you know,

843
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: they haven't really played anybody. They played Virginia. They put

844
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: up thirty eight against Virginia. Virginia's defense is horrible. We

845
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: just saw you know, a Jmu throw for three fifty

846
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: and put up that many points against them. So and

847
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: then they played Austin p The Tennessee defense still has

848
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: a lot of holes. And this what this Florida team

849
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: wants to do. It's Graham mart It's the quarterbacks. Like

850
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: he said, they don't see an Hartman and Marks is massive.

851
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, a guy that's in potential in running

852
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: for the highsman, the guy who, yeah, it's had one

853
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: good game in years at at Wisconsin. He had like

854
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 3: one good half and he couldn't win in the Big Ten.

855
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: But they want to control. They have two really good

856
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: running backs. They're going to get there. Really good center

857
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: is going to play in the NFL mentionally, he's back

858
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: this week. Their offensive line has a lot of talent.

859
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: They just they want to control the ball. They want

860
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: to run the ball, and I think they could do

861
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: that against Tennessee. And I don't think Milton can sustain

862
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: enough drives. Is probably going to make a couple of

863
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: mistakes Florida is gonna, you know, take away they run,

864
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: They're gonna make Milton beat him, and I don't. I

865
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: don't think he can right now. He's just not consistent

866
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: enough passer. So I think we'll make a couple of

867
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: mistakes and that'll just lead into Florida controlling this clock,

868
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: putting together some long drives and uh yeah, I like

869
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: the points here with Florida. I actually think that they

870
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 3: pull off an upset. I don't think the market really

871
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: knows yet that this how bad this Tennessee offense is.

872
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: Maybe they put it together here, Maybe Mays comes back

873
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: and Milton has a great game. But from what I've seen,

874
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: not just this year, but throughout his career, he just

875
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have the consistency in the accuracy department.

876
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you look around the country, there's

877
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: probably not a coach if you remove the mil Tucker situation.

878
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: He's not even coaching right now. He's spent it. They

879
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: could use a win like this at home against obviously

880
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: a rival flash the rival is resurrected, or at least

881
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: feels like that. On the From a national perspective, this

882
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: would this would do wonders for Sunbelt Billy and maybe

883
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: we would just call him sec Billy from then on out.

884
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, not only is you need the win.

885
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: He's got to avoid the lost Tennessee hasn't won in

886
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 3: Gainesville since two thousand and three, and they've never Yeah,

887
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: they lost ten straight. They've never been a favorite. This

888
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: hive have a favorite in the history of the series.

889
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: You can go all the way back to the seventies,

890
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: eighties whenever. This is the biggest favorite they've been. So

891
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: they haven't won there in twenty years. So you want

892
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: to avoid the lost six STARTA fans aren't going to

893
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: like losing the Tennessee at home.

894
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: No, that's so even in some of their down years

895
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 1: over this last decade. Then that's Billy. Better win this thing. Okay,

896
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: let's not have in the NFL. I've gotten a lot

897
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: of dms. You know, I've I lived in the Bay Area,

898
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: in Northern calfl I know a lot of Raider fans

899
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: and it's like, are we actually decent? And then after

900
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: you watch Monday Night, they're like, could we go into

901
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia? It's like, hey, you know, it's pump the

902
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: brakes a little bit. But I would have told you

903
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, no chance, who knows. I mean, Josh Allen,

904
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: he did not look like a top two or three quarterback.

905
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: He looked terrible. I mean that's since he became a

906
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: good player. Like if we removed his rookie year, that

907
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: has to be the worst game he's ever played. I

908
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: test statistically. I mean it was just it was a joke,

909
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: especially given what the other team was dealing with. It's like, hey, guys,

910
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in a boot under the stadium, just run

911
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: the ball, dink and dunk. What are you doing? So

912
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: now he's a veteran player, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady had

913
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: shitty games, you can bounce back. It's at home. I

914
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, though, this is stay away from me,

915
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 1: but I'm just fascinated. Like, to me, this is gonna

916
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: be a big reflect because the Raiders are gonna come

917
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: in try and do the Bills, Like do they still

918
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: got it? Or is something off? I think we're gonna

919
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: find out this week.

920
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I laided, I laid eight and a half with

921
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: the Bills and this is Look, Josh Allen was horrendous

922
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: last week.

923
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: But you go back to when Brady was in New England.

924
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: There were years where he just for whatever reason, he

925
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: struggled with Miami's defense, and you know, some people would

926
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: say it was the weather or whatever. The Jets defense

927
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: is one of the best in the NFL, and over

928
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: the past two seasons, if you look at you know,

929
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 3: so this one game and then last year some seventeen games,

930
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: that's one got canceled for the Bills. In the regular season,

931
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: Allen is one and two against the Jets, two touchdowns,

932
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: five interceptions, averages one hundred and ninety six yards per game.

933
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: In the three games against the Jets, he was awful last.

934
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: So you think it's more of a you think it's

935
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: more of a matchup thing. Now there good less than

936
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: it just he sucks. Yeah, and I know he doesn't suck.

937
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: I just mean that he's declining regression whatever.

938
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does these games, he is. He does have

939
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: a much.

940
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: More inconsistency than you'd normally see.

941
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: With some of these league quarterbacks.

942
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: But I agree, But against the Jets, it's it's just

943
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 3: off the charts. And the other fourteen games he's twelve

944
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: and two, sixty four percent completion percentage, thirty four touchdowns,

945
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: twelve interceptions averaging two hundred and eighty five yards per game.

946
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: Last year, he threw zero touchdowns, two interceptions one hundred

947
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: and forty yards against the Jets. The Bills ended up

948
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: winning eight of their next nine games, and he was fined.

949
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: From a numbers perspective against the league defenses, yeat. He

950
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: still needs to get more consistent. But this Raiders secondary

951
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 3: is not one of them. You got to worry about

952
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: Crosby off the edge against Spencer Brown, but the Raiders

953
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: secondary is bad. And you know, last week they just

954
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 3: weren't tested. Russell Wilson averaged four yards depth of target

955
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: and they Broncos didn't have any of their weapons playing.

956
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: Dulcichi even got hurted in the first half, and Judy

957
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: didn't play, and they have a bunch of other injuries.

958
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: They just never tried to throw down feel and Russ

959
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: looked good. He rush efficient efficiency wise, He two touchdowns,

960
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: the interceptions, completed everything. Because the Raiders secondary is bad, bad,

961
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: and so I think the Bills come out here and

962
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: they rebound at home, and when they win, they win big.

963
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: That's what the Bills have done under Josh Allen. Because

964
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 3: usually if you get good Josh Allen, then it's really

965
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: good Josh Allen, and they also have one of the

966
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 3: best defenses in the NFL. And Allen has won fifty

967
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: three games in the NFL. Thirty seven of those have

968
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: come by more than seven points, which isn't easy to

969
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: do in the NFL. So when the Bills win, they

970
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 3: do win big.

971
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: And on the.

972
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: Other side of the ball, look, Jimmy G can operate

973
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: this offense. He can win you games. But he's there's

974
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: two things with him. He's not going to beat the

975
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: elite quarterbacks in the AFC in a shootout. So when

976
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: you know, if they go up against the Chiefs and

977
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 3: their games getting the high thirty, Jimmy G's not gonna

978
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: be able to keep up. He's also gonna be under

979
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: much more pressure this week against this Bill's defense. And

980
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: if there's one thing we know with Jimmy G. Great

981
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: when he's in a clean pocket and the Broncks on

982
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 3: pressure for four dropbacks last week. When he's under pressure,

983
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: he performance falls off the bat because he's not able

984
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: to elude any pressure, get outside the pocket and do anything.

985
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: He's also dealing with an ankle injury. You gotta keep

986
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: in mind DeVante Adams and Jacobe Myers, their top two receivers,

987
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: didn't practice today, one with in concussion protocol, Adam's dealing

988
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: with a foot injury. DeAndre Carter their fourth. He also

989
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: didn't practice with a calf, so they're banged up to

990
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: going across the country. I think the Bills come out

991
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 3: and make a statement. There are rumblings of other things,

992
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: Like you said, it is something off if they don't come

993
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: out here, number what do they lose this game? But

994
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: if they don't come out here and take care of

995
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: business and it just looks off, you might be right,

996
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be definitely worth to get into. But

997
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna trust them to bounce back here and lay

998
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 3: it under ten.

999
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know Jacobs last obviously Denver's defense based

1000
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: on last year solid, so him having under fifty yards

1001
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: isn't crazy. But you know, the Jets ran for one

1002
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two. Granted eighty three of them came

1003
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: on one run, so that's I would imagine Josh mcdam

1004
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: is going to try to slow down the game, run

1005
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: the ball, especially the receivers. I think it's fair to

1006
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: assume Jacoby's not going to play. But the DeVante thing

1007
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: would be a problem, not just this week, but that's

1008
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: a big picture of a foot can linger. Let's speaking

1009
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: of the Jets. Uh this what would this number of

1010
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: ben pre What was the number before the Monday night

1011
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: game for the Cowboy game? Was it five ish? You think?

1012
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Uh? Now it was three?

1013
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: So the market has Yeah, the Cowboys were minus three

1014
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: and then you had the Cowboys winning in dominant fashion,

1015
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: and then you had Rogers going down. I played the

1016
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: Jets here. I hate Zach Wilson. I've signed him for

1017
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 3: years since ever since he got into the league.

1018
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: I do.

1019
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: I think he's a backup at best. But I just

1020
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: think this is this is too many points, too big

1021
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: of an over adjustment, Like we this an adjustment for

1022
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: an elite quarterback to his backup, and you know it

1023
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 3: would be at the top of the line starter seven points.

1024
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: It's as high as you normally get the NFL. Maybe

1025
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: Rogers to like Tim Boyle eight years.

1026
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: Ago in his MVPP eight nine points.

1027
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Tim Boyle like throw one touchdown sixteen interceptions

1028
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: at Yukon. So it depends on that the left the

1029
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: backup and Zach Wilson at least as starts you know,

1030
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: he's covered four seven times when he's getting more than seven.

1031
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: He has some experience.

1032
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: But Rogers wasn't the same elite level quarterback that he was,

1033
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, a couple of years ago, so there was questions.

1034
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 3: There was questions about him coming into this year, how

1035
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: effect it was going to be. He knew it was

1036
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: gonna be an upgrade, but behind that offensive line, and

1037
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: unfortunately we couldn't figure out. But we never got to

1038
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: find out. But I think that the adjustment from Rogers

1039
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: to Wilson isn't as big as some might think, right.

1040
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: I think it's only maybe four and a half five points,

1041
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: which is still substantial, but it's not monumental like it

1042
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: used to be and like it is right now for

1043
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 3: a Mahomes. And you still have this Jets defense, which

1044
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: arguably is the best the NFL. They have the secondary,

1045
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: they have the dudes up front on the defensive line.

1046
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: If they're deep and dominant, they can give this Dallas

1047
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 3: offensive line, which isn't at one hundred percent yet some trouble.

1048
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: And this is one of the things you see this

1049
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: in basketball because the look the Cowboys look great. Last see,

1050
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: what do we really learned? Like we knew their defense

1051
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: was dominant. Their offense didn't have to do anything, and

1052
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks is now heard, so they'll have to find.

1053
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: They got a special teams touchdown, Yeah.

1054
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: Special teams touchdown. They got a pick six and the

1055
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: game just got out of hand from there. Their offense

1056
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 3: didn't have to do anything. It's gonna be a different

1057
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 3: story this week. And you see this in basketball a lot.

1058
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: The Jets are getting like, oh, the Jets are getting

1059
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 3: written off right, like they're done now Rogers, and it's

1060
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: probably true. But this is the first game without Rogers.

1061
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: And this is when you see, like in basketball, if

1062
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: you lose your star player, the next game, everyone else

1063
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: steps up. I actually even like it even more, and

1064
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: you go on the road, it's like us against the world.

1065
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: And then that kind of wears off after two games

1066
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: and we'll see, if you know, the biggest thing I'm

1067
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: watching with the Jets, if they do stick with Zach Wilson,

1068
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: he loses the game because he take accountability. Otherwise he

1069
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: could lose that locker room quick if he comes out

1070
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: and answers questions like he did last year. But I

1071
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: think everyone else rises up here with that defense. This

1072
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: is just too many points in a game with a

1073
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 3: total of thirty nine. I think both coaches are going

1074
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: to play this super conservatively, especially early, because the Jets

1075
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: are going to say, look, we got to the line

1076
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: of defense. We can have Zach Wilson make mistakes. The

1077
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: Cowboys are going to say, all right, look we're playing

1078
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson. We can let our defense win this. And

1079
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: all the talk in the offseason about Dak's interception problems,

1080
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: which I felt we're a little overblown, but I feel

1081
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: like and he talked about that a lot, so I

1082
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: feel like early on he's going to be super conservative.

1083
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 3: He like guaranteed he's not gonna throw more than ten

1084
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: so I don't think he's going to take a lot

1085
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: of shots. He might be a little gun shy, take

1086
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: stuff underneath, and it'll be really conservative on offense for

1087
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. So I think this sets up as like

1088
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: a rock fight that the Cowboys win, you know, seventeen

1089
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: to thirteen. So I'll take the points for what it's worth.

1090
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: Teams following a win of thirty five or more points,

1091
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: which the Cowboys had last week, teams are just thirty four,

1092
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: fifty three and four against the spread. That's thirty nine

1093
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: percent over the past twenty years. That kind of speaks

1094
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 3: to the overreaction you see at times in the market.

1095
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: Actually early on if you recall, and in this spot

1096
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: it's zero to four and week two after team's won

1097
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: by thirty five plus.

1098
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: In week one the Saints.

1099
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: In they blew out the Packers, I think like forty

1100
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: one nothing. They beat Aaron Rodgers. They had to play

1101
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: I think down in Florida in the humidity because of

1102
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: the hurricane next week. You know, the market overreacts, they

1103
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: go to Carolina and they get destroyed. So never when

1104
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 3: I overreact, I don't think we've learned that much about

1105
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. I'm going to count on this Jets d

1106
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: and the locker room kind of responding to the circumstances.

1107
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: Well, I think one thing, if I told you Aaron

1108
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: Rodgers had played seventeen games, this defense would have been

1109
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: in the mix to be the number one scoring defense, right,

1110
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: And usually number one scoring defense is what in the peak,

1111
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere like thirteen fourteen, but probably in modern

1112
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: day would be closer to like seventeen, eighteen, nineteen.

1113
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're.

1114
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: Still going to get that level. They might tap out

1115
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: at the season's a disaster by late November whatever. But

1116
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: right now you're getting that version. So if you just say, Okay,

1117
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys score twenty, I mean, can they score twelve

1118
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: thirteen points?

1119
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: Right?

1120
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's it's very, very possible, and

1121
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they can hold them under twenty. Maybe

1122
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: that number is more seventeen. All they got to get

1123
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: to is ten. Right, So it's like you said, it's

1124
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: not it's basically a math equation. So and that's so

1125
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. It's just that that number is enormous. Uh. Okay,

1126
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, the the Denver Bronco season got off to

1127
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: a weird start because you're right. He I looked up

1128
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: and he was like, God, he actually feels a little

1129
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: better than he did last year just moving around. He

1130
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: definitely looks slimmer, just in terms of more spry. He

1131
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: was being officially was throwing touchdowns. But the game is

1132
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't you know, it was always it was close,

1133
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: and then Jimmy de s was a pick and you're like, oh,

1134
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: Denver's gonna win this thing. And somehow the Raiders pull

1135
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: the game out of their ass and win and you're like, God,

1136
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: they're zero to one. Now they play the Commanders, who

1137
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: I picked Arizona last week, who I thought had them. Uh,

1138
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: but they are the Cardinals. One thing with Washington, I

1139
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: mean that D line is pretty freaking good. I mean

1140
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: they can get out your ass. I don't know. I

1141
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: mean I I just have a hard time with Denver,

1142
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I really do. But I know a lot of people

1143
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: You're not alone here. I think this is a great

1144
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: spot for him. This game feels weird to me, almost

1145
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: like a stay away.

1146
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I played the Broncas.

1147
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: I played them small three and a half because I'm

1148
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: waiting to see maybe because of injured news. If it

1149
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: does get out of three obviously the most important number

1150
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: when betting the NFL. So and then if it goes

1151
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: to three, I would love it even more. But I

1152
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: think this is a good bounce back spot. I like

1153
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: some of the things that I saw from Peyton and

1154
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: his influence on this offense. They used play action a ton,

1155
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 3: They used an extra offensive lineman a ton. They use

1156
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: an extra blocker, whether it's a tight end or wide

1157
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: receiver protection a lot. And Russ wasn't under pressure a

1158
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: whole lot. Everything was like just It reminded me of

1159
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 3: what Dable and then, which is crazy to say about

1160
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: Russ because Russell's, but Russell's watched last the last couple

1161
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: of years. What Dabel and then did with Daniel Jones.

1162
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: They really just simplified everything and gave him easy throws

1163
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: and easy reads and the offense operated efficiency efficiently. What

1164
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: it was missing was any form it was complete. There

1165
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: was a void of explosiveness. I think there was two

1166
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: plays that went for over eighteen yards and one was

1167
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: like a screen I think, so they didn't throw it

1168
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 3: all downfield. Peyton acknowledged that and said, look, yeah, we

1169
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: need to we need to bring some explosiveness into the offense,

1170
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: and that is ultimately what helped him back last week.

1171
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 3: Other than tomorrow, Mathis one of their corners got roasted

1172
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: the entire game opposite certain but so I think you'll

1173
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: see a few more deep shots off of that play action,

1174
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: which makes sense. It's just like here, give them easy throws,

1175
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 3: easy reads, and then boom, let's take a deep shot

1176
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: them as well. The problem is they have a lot

1177
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: of injuries at the wide receiver room. But I think

1178
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: they'll get Judy back this week. Reading the tea leaves.

1179
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: Peyton said that they warmed him up. They thought he

1180
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: was going to play. Hamstrings are tricky, but you know,

1181
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 3: now zero to one, you're playing a division opponent. I

1182
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: think he's going to give it a go. And they

1183
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: said he was close last week. That would be massive

1184
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: because they just need that spark, whether it be you know,

1185
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: someone getting open deep or just a guy who can

1186
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 3: take a slam Breton and yeah and then go for

1187
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: thirty and just bring you yak which like you see

1188
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: all the time.

1189
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: And with the.

1190
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: Myriad of weapons the forty nine ers out last week,

1191
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: the Broncos just didn't have that. It's just like here,

1192
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: complete the pass and then they would get tackled. So

1193
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance Judy plays, which would

1194
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: be huge. But the main thing here is that this

1195
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: is a so I think the Peyton the big coaching

1196
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: mismatch here, and for what it's where Peyton, out of

1197
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five coaches over the past twenty years,

1198
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: he's the second most profitable behind Belichick. After a loss.

1199
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: He's fifty two and twenty nine against the spread, six

1200
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: over sixty four percent after lost, covering by about four

1201
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: points per game. But This is also a fade of Washington,

1202
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 3: who didn't look great at all last week. Went back

1203
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: and watched that game because Sam Help took six sacks.

1204
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you take six sacks against this

1205
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: Arizona defense that they have no I mean, Watt had

1206
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: all their sacks last year. So I went back and looked,

1207
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: and he's just he holds the ball way too long.

1208
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: And I mean he.

1209
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: Just was indecisive and he would invite pressure eventually and

1210
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: try to see make things happen that weren't there.

1211
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: That's a bad sign.

1212
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: Now. It doesn't mean you can't fix it, but a

1213
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: bad sign right now. Now you're going into a hostile

1214
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: environment against a better defense than Arizona's, and uh, you know,

1215
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: you got to hope that Denver makes adjustment with Mathis

1216
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: has to play better. Certain's going to take one of

1217
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: their receivers away. He locked down Adams last week. He

1218
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: was on him and he's arguably the best in the business.

1219
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think hal on the road here, hostile

1220
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: environment in a place where teams, especially about a conference,

1221
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: struggle early on in that attitude. I think that Denver

1222
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 3: bounces back, gets this win. I'll trust Peyton to make

1223
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: the necessary adjustments of the offense to bring in some exploseness.

1224
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: I think hope that Judy's gonna play, and I just

1225
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 3: don't trust how and how he looked last week that

1226
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 3: that he did. He did all the things you don't

1227
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 3: want to see from a young quarterback. You know, keep

1228
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: referencing the forty nine er seen you watched party, It's like, Okay,

1229
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: he knows when to get out of the pocket, and

1230
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: he knows when to be decisive. How just never never

1231
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: made those the same decisions. You see the same thing

1232
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 3: with Fields not making those throws and an inaccurate when

1233
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: he does. So, I'm this is a big chunk of

1234
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: this is a fate of how and where I think

1235
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: this offense is, and I think it's going to struggle

1236
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: until he kind of figures it out, if he ever does.

1237
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes quarterbacks don't at this level.

1238
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fields another guy. Yet if they get their butt

1239
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: kicked by the Bucks, people got to start, you know,

1240
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: getting off him hard. It feels like there's a lot

1241
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: of two games that I'm definitely keeping an eye on,

1242
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: Titans getting points at home against the Chargers, in the

1243
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Packers against the Falcons, uh plus one. So I mean

1244
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: technically they're you know, typically the home team you get

1245
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: three points. So now maybe I'm undervaluing Atlanta. That's just

1246
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: a game that I'll probably I'll take the Titans before

1247
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: he took the Packers. But whoever wins that game, in

1248
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: the Packer Atlanta game, maybe we will have to start

1249
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: talking about depending on what some of these like the

1250
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Giants obviously Seattle's playing the Lions, could could that Atlanta?

1251
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Like if Atlanta wins, are we talking about them as

1252
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, a playoff level team. That's something I'm definitely

1253
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on.

1254
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually took the Falcons and the Packers preseason

1255
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: to win their divisions. Now what would really hurt that

1256
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: as the Lions stealing that win against the Chiefs, Like

1257
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: getting a win over the Chiefs on the road.

1258
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: That's that's huge for the.

1259
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: Lion because you got that that with that swing.

1260
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that was pretty big. But yeah, the

1261
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: upside of Jordan Love he looked great last week at

1262
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: granted it was against a bad bad Bears defense, but uh,

1263
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: they still have really talented defense. I think Atlanta improved

1264
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: their defense. He saw Jesse Bates on they played really well.

1265
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: Some of their offseason acquisitions still don't really have an

1266
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: edge rush, which I think might ultimately hold them back.

1267
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 3: And Richard looked off. I mean Ridderd's average steff the

1268
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: target was like three point four yards. Yeah, I mean

1269
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: they he was just there was just screens and like

1270
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: the only one who had a lower average step of

1271
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: the target by the way, which is crazy in a

1272
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: blowout where it was justin fields was three three yards

1273
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: and yeah, wat some wide up and guys he missed.

1274
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: The only thing I would worry about with the Packers,

1275
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 3: I still don't know if I they're rundy. That's looked

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 3: better last week, but the Bears offensive line was a mess.

1277
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: Their run dy has historically been bad under Barry and

1278
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 3: it's you know, some of that's like they they'll funnel

1279
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: that in and want it by design. But you can

1280
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,959
Speaker 3: run on them. And that's all Atlantic Ken and wants

1281
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: to do. Like they want to They're like kind of

1282
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: like a service academy in the NFL, and they just

1283
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: want to run at you a million different ways, so

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Speaker 3: they can they just control the clock and move up

1285
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Speaker 3: and down the field. Against Green Bay, that would be

1286
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: my concern there. In addition to the injuries for Green Bay,

1287
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 3: so we don't know about Watson and Aaron Jones, another

1288
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: hamstring guy that Aaron Jones is so important because you

1289
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: just see that the difference that exposed in between him

1290
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Speaker 3: and Dylan, Like Dylan will get you, you know, he'll

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: move forward for you, but he just doesn't have that burst.

1292
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Speaker 3: And Jones can do so many different things, not only

1293
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: in the run game, but on screens and going.

1294
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: Out for routes.

1295
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: So that's something to keep an eye on as well

1296
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: as far as the Titans are concerned. It's yeah, taking

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: three with Frabel. Whenever you can take points with Brabol

1298
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: you have to do it. So I like that one

1299
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 3: much more than the Atlanta one.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I'll be watching Tanel closely though, because he he basically

1302
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: I know there was a blown call, but he missed

1303
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 3: a couple of wide up and touchdowns, bad picks. He

1304
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 3: wasn't even under pressure that much. He looked bad. You

1305
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: could have an off game, but you know, once a

1306
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: quarterback starts to get there in age, it's like, all right,

1307
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 3: let me let me see what's going on here. So

1308
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: I'll be watching that closely. But it's kind of like

1309
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: the team that generally covers the dog and always wins

1310
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: these close games versus a team that always finds a

1311
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: way to lose these close games and the Chargers. So yeah,

1312
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't I don't mind that Tennessee one at all.

1313
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: Okay, sucky, let's uh, let's enjoy the weekend. Have some cocktails.

1314
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Do you see rocking the titos? You don't have a

1315
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: good couple of Tito's and sodas Saturday and Sunday. And

1316
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's win these best baby role.

1317
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's have a weekend and I'll see all

1318
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: you guys next week.

1319
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a couple of male bag questions. We'll

1320
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: try to bang out a bunch at John middlecoff Is

1321
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: the Instagram DM's wide open fire in them, start with bart.

1322
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: Recently you talked about some owners being cheap. Well, the

1323
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: Players Association came out with the study grading the thirty

1324
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: two facilities regarding their work environments. Freakonomics did a fantastic

1325
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: episode on it. I off to check it out. I

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01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: feel like there is a fine line between making people

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01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: feel respected and just playing comfortable. Have you seen the

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01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: report and what are your thoughts? Well, I haven't heard

1329
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: the episode on Freakonomics. I remember subscribing that podcast years

1330
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: ago and it stopped updating. But off to recheck that out,

1331
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: I would say that listen, facilities, You're not recruiting in

1332
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, so it's never going to quite be college

1333
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: like if you just went to the majority of Power

1334
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: five programs Georgia, Bama, LSU, Oregon, I mean, USC their

1335
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: facilities would blow you away, like the forty nine ers

1336
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: facilities not great, it's just not like the weight room

1337
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: would be laughed at in college football, but it's more

1338
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: than serviceable and they treat you well when you're in there.

1339
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: So I think it was a reflection of listen, if

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: you're going cheap on the facility, like if you play

1341
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and you don't have a dome to practice

1342
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: and that's on the owner. Now I think they built

1343
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: one recently, but that's being cheap right to me. The

1344
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: thing that stood out there, and it was about Bidwell,

1345
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: was that he was like charging containers to go home

1346
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: if you're a player. I mean I know, as a

1347
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: as a young scout, like I survived on taking food

1348
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: home and players used to take home food all the time.

1349
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: Help in Philadelphia food was free breakfast, lunch, and dinner

1350
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: during the season for scouts, coaches and players. We'd have

1351
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: to pay, let alone the to go box. So it's

1352
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that would really really irk me. But you know,

1353
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: the facility, they're just not going to be as nice

1354
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: as college and so i'd have to read it. There's

1355
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: probably a nitpick on some of Like you said, there

1356
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: is a fine line like why wouldn't you want your

1357
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: guys to be comfortable? Like you don't need to blow

1358
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: it out seven hundred million dollar facility, but you should

1359
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 1: have nice stuff. I mean, this is the NFL, right,

1360
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: especially like I know, like Mark Davis in Vegas has

1361
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: like top of the line. Well, it's clearly new. Some

1362
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: of these facilities are a little older, like the Eagles.

1363
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 1: Their practice facility is twenty plus years old, but they've

1364
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: definitely updated it and upgraded it. Right, They've put money

1365
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: into it, which to me is important. Okay, loving the content,

1366
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: please allow me a little geographical bias with this one,

1367
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: but how about the Jets taking a low risk flyer

1368
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: on Nathan Rourke. Yes, I'm being somewhat biased because he

1369
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: played in Vancouver, but the scout in you must have

1370
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: seen the work he did in the preseason with the

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: Jet for what it would cost the Jets first, any

1372
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: other option they may have, This seems like the only

1373
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: albe remote chance of catching light meaning in a bottle.

1374
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: Come on, man, this is they're trying to make the playoffs.

1375
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: I'd be lying to you if I watched a lot

1376
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: of Jags preseason. I know I think you're speaking of.

1377
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: I know the one play that he made which was

1378
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, but that's not to me and the cards.

1379
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying, and there's nothing wrong

1380
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: with that. Well, that's why we talked sports. We're allowed

1381
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: to have some outrageous takes. You think the Jets would

1382
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: be in the market to take a quarterback in next

1383
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,959
Speaker 1: year's draft, even if Rogers comes back, he'd probably only

1384
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: play another year or two. If he had the ability

1385
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback in the ten to twenty range, Well,

1386
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna come down to Zach. I mean they

1387
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: drafted him two overall. What does he look like? There's

1388
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: just a ton of pressure and there's a ton of

1389
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: unknown Like guys improve. We talked about it earlier in

1390
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: the show Second Chance. What does he look like? He

1391
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: rattles off some wins, they win ten games, and he's

1392
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: way different than last year, much improved then No, I

1393
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: mean I think you'd write it out for a little bit.

1394
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: Hope you have a good day. I like this guy, Cameron.

1395
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Steeler fan and have been wondering a lot

1396
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: about Pickett in the organization as a whole. Lately, the

1397
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: Steelers have been historically patient with every coach, player and

1398
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: play caller. Do you think that the Steelers will be

1399
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: that way with Kenny during and after his rookie contract

1400
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: or will they move off quickly if he ends up

1401
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: being only average? Also, what do you think of the Steelers'

1402
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: future as a whole. Not many promising young players on

1403
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: offense or especially defense love the podcast. I think there's

1404
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: tangible pressure this season on everyone involved. Like I thought

1405
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: coming into the season, Guys, if you've listened to me,

1406
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: know where I stood. I thought they were gonna be

1407
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: really good. Now I'm not going to write them off

1408
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: because they played one of the better teams in the league.

1409
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: Who I know this for a fact, I mean, Kyle

1410
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: said it. They have started very very slow, the forty

1411
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: nine Ers, So a point of emphasis this season was

1412
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: starting fast. I mean they were coming out guns blazing.

1413
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: Kyle probably spent extra time this offseason just game planning

1414
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: for this game. It meant a lot to him, the

1415
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: road game against a you know, a non common opponent

1416
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: who should be pretty good, a defensive organization. But I

1417
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: think sometimes we're all guilty of this, So you're not alone.

1418
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: Why do we talk so much about like after his

1419
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: rookie contract, you draft a guy in the first round,

1420
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: you have him for five years if you so choose right,

1421
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: you have the four year contract, and after after year

1422
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: three you can pick up the fifth year option. Just

1423
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: let it play out. He started how many games? I

1424
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know the exact number last year, ten eight to twelve,

1425
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range, because Trubisky started some, and then

1426
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: you have this year. Let's just let's just see year

1427
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 1: two play out. So I think there is so much unknown.

1428
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: I think one big picture thing if this Tomlin thing

1429
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: ever kind of doesn't work out these next couple of years,

1430
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: Like let's just say this year they won eight games,

1431
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: and then next year they didn't go with above five

1432
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: hundred again. You know the Steelers. Last time I checked

1433
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: Tomlin Cower like maybe it'd be time to hire an

1434
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: offensive coach. That again, we're a long way away from that.

1435
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just see how they look Moneynet football

1436
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: from Kai question for the bag. I'm a lifelong Seahawks

1437
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: fan and I can't help but be frustrated with the

1438
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: defense's performance over the past few years. I know the

1439
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: line has been a nightmare, but we have above average

1440
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: talent everywhere else. Do you think a better decordinator would

1441
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: make the difference? I e. Sala if the Jets implode.

1442
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Your head coach is a defensive I mean,

1443
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: Guru is strong, but like he's a defensive mind, mastermind honestly,

1444
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: like in his peak with Pete Carroll's big time. So

1445
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: anytime that you work for Pete Carroll, it's like, even

1446
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: when Andy has been through stretches in his career, when

1447
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: he's not calling plays, you're working for a guy that

1448
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: knows the offense is ultimately the pseudo offensive coordinator, right,

1449
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: So I think Pete's a lot like that. Now, having

1450
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: a better having Dan Quinn or Robert Sala, sure that

1451
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: would help. But you know you guys have missed on

1452
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: some D lineman in the draft. I think another thing

1453
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: you did. Let's face it, that had I don't want

1454
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: to s dire consequences because the story's not completely over yet.

1455
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: And he last I checked he might play this week

1456
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: is Jamal Adams. He traded multiple ones for Jamal Adams.

1457
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: Who's if he doesn't play this in the next couple weeks, Like,

1458
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: is he any good? You drafted Witherspoon early? To me,

1459
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: he's kind of that hybrid playmaking role too. In theory

1460
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: he should be better than Jamal Adams because he's better

1461
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: at making plays on the ball. But you know, in

1462
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: the same vein of physical tackler, hybrid guy, ideally a

1463
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: better cover guy than Jamal. But yeah, I mean, I

1464
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,440
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of you guys have had invested

1465
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: a lot of resources to that side of the ball.

1466
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1467
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: When you've invested resources to offense, it's like draft Kenneth Walker, baller,

1468
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: draft DK Metcalf stud draft those tackles immediately pretty good, right,

1469
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: But defense has kind of been hit or miss, which

1470
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: is weird because it's Pete's baby, Like that's what he

1471
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: knows better than everything, right, is defense. He's been a

1472
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: defensive coach for how Old's Pete seventy for forty plus years,

1473
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: even though I think he was a college cour question

1474
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: for the back, have you ever considered doing a live

1475
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: stream of a game, kind of like what the Mannings

1476
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 1: Manning Brothers show is. I think that would be interesting

1477
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: to hear some takes during the game. Well, a couple

1478
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: things first and foremost, that's not easy to do, right

1479
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: to me, the energy it takes. And I have a

1480
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: lot of respect for anyone that broadcasts the game, even

1481
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: if I don't think they're that good. I know how

1482
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: difficult it is. A Couple times in college I messed

1483
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: around with it at cal Pauly and it was like,

1484
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: this is not for me. I'm an opinion guy, a

1485
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: reaction guy. Now I understand that's what the Manning thing is.

1486
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: You got you gotta approach it like you are calling

1487
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: the game, and obviously you do it more podcast enjoyable style.

1488
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: I just I just enjoy watching the game right then,

1489
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: sitting there, maybe I just hate myself as I watch

1490
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 1: the game. You know, time's money. You'd have to we

1491
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: have to sell that bad boy, and I'd have to

1492
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: get a little piece of the action. But I hear

1493
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: what you're saying. It's just I've seen other people try

1494
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: to do it. One I couldn't just I couldn't just

1495
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: riff for three and a half hours, right barstool goes

1496
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: live for example, during some games they have like twenty

1497
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: people there. You know, it's I think it's a lot

1498
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: more difficult than it looks. Peyton and Eli are I

1499
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: don't know two of the biggest stars. You know, it's

1500
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: it's a unique setup. I don't think many people can

1501
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: pull it off, and we've seen other sports try and

1502
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: it's terrible.

1503
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: Right.

1504
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: I saw McAfee's doing the sideline of games. That's possible.

1505
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: But I I enjoy doing what I'm doing, having takes

1506
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: on all the action at the end of the day,

1507
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: like that's that's my strength. Now, I'm not opposed if

1508
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: the world changed that way, but I've tried to watch

1509
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's not really for me. So I

1510
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: think a lot of times, and maybe I'm I don't

1511
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: pretend to be all knowing, but if it doesn't really

1512
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: work for me as a consumer, then I don't really

1513
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: want to do it. I guess that's a long way

1514
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: of saying, but I'd never say never. Who knows world

1515
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: could change? Found you listening to Colin now I love

1516
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,440
Speaker 1: the show anyway, I so let's do a recent episode.

1517
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: You were talking about placing a bet on the Patriots

1518
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: versus the Giants back in eight It brought me back

1519
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: to my own memory of that Super Bowl. We were

1520
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: deployed in Iraq. I was a Navy seal at the time.

1521
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: We were planning on watching the game. Then we had

1522
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: to go hit a target instead. That night, a bunch

1523
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: of my teammates were shot and a couple were killed.

1524
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: One of them was a huge Patriot fan. We didn't

1525
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: make it back to base on time to watch the game. Now,

1526
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: every time they sing the Star Spangled banner at the

1527
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I get a bit choked up. Nothing more

1528
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: American than our national anthem, plus an American Force flyover

1529
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: in our national game NFL football. This probably isn't a

1530
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: message to share in your pod. You can if you want.

1531
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: Just felt compelled to DM you for some reason. Go Lions. Wow,

1532
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: that's powerful, Thank you for your service. Obviously, it's a

1533
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: powerful story. I don't even it's hard for us, you know,

1534
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: normal citizens to even begin to relate to someone. You know,

1535
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: my dad's brother was shot and killed while they were ambushed,

1536
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: and he ended up dying. I think of smoke to

1537
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: the lungs hiding but in Vietnam, and I know the

1538
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: toll that that has on people. Yeah, man, powerful, hope

1539
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: you're doing well. Go Lions. I love the Lions this year. Okay,

1540
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: next question, big fan, Seahawks fan. As you know, we

1541
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: lost our tackles in a brutal Week one game against

1542
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: the Rams. The right tackle Lucas is on ir So

1543
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: we signed a couple of rookie undrafted free agents off

1544
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: the Bucks and Raiders practice squad. That's a go to

1545
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: move for teams. I used to be a big evaluator

1546
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: of practice squads, so it's what they put, you know,

1547
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: the pro scouts, that's their job. Question is we all

1548
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 1: know the potential of late round undrafted quarterbacks to develop

1549
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: because of intangible traits, But what about other positions? Is

1550
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: there any chance tackles can be competent starters or is

1551
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: that position two dependent on athleticism, strength everything else we

1552
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: can and measure. I think there are positions that you

1553
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: can find on the scrap heap easier than others. Right

1554
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: running backs, I think you can find like serviceable dbs

1555
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: who can play special teams, guard centers, for sure, you know,

1556
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: the occasional slot receiver or a backup tight end. For

1557
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: the most part, I think if we went around the

1558
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: league and looked at tackles, it's pretty difficult to find, right.

1559
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: I mean, look at most left tackles typically highly drafted.

1560
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: I would say even Jordan Malatta is an outlier. He

1561
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: had never played football. Right, if Jordan Malatta had grown

1562
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,919
Speaker 1: up in America and had gone to Oklahoma or Georgia,

1563
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say Jordan Allatta's top fifteen pick.

1564
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: So that the Trent Williams, the Crosses, the you just

1565
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: go around right Lane Johnson, Tyron Smith. Just most tackles

1566
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: tend to be higher drafted picks because one, it's like

1567
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: how many good centers have there been in NBA hist

1568
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: There just aren't that many human beings that are six

1569
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: four to six five have thirty four inch arms, who

1570
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: are big and not like fat big, but like three

1571
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen to three hundred and thirty pounds, but

1572
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: can move closer to let's say a skill guy, because

1573
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: that's the type guys you have to block every week.

1574
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: You got to block TJ. Watt or JJ Watt or

1575
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett or Bosa or the other Bosa. Those guys

1576
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: are all freaks, so it's that's pretty difficult. It's very

1577
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: very rare to find that. I would say, you can

1578
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: find a guy who could start a game or two

1579
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: or become a backup, But to find a guy with

1580
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 1: the potential to be a full time starter long term,

1581
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: I would say that that is not possible. Not not possible,

1582
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: but very unlikely. It's probably a better way to put it.

1583
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: I know you probably won't read this or reply to

1584
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: me anymore because you've gone big time nowadays, but couldn't

1585
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: you please go into some detail explanation as a why

1586
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: the hell you're so high on the Steelers? Their offense

1587
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: is absolutely abysmal, And I'm sorry. Pickett is not my

1588
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: cup of tea and a quarterback, but I honestly think

1589
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: at best he is mid. I'm not even quite sure

1590
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: what mid means. I'm excited. You know, by the time

1591
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: I end up having children, I'll probably be like forty,

1592
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: So by the time they coming into like cool lingo,

1593
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: I'll be in my early fifties, you know, in their

1594
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 1: teenage years, and I'll just be hip with the lingo.

1595
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: Because you realize when you're not around children and the internet,

1596
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to follow everything. I don't know what all

1597
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: this stuff means. I honestly don't really know what mid means.

1598
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of do, but I just I

1599
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: need to get better, better, updated on what all the young,

1600
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: cool hip kids are saying. It's the best part about

1601
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: working in football, right. It's why coaches can be like

1602
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: sixty five years old but so energetic. They're just around youth. Listen,

1603
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't like him as much as I did a

1604
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: week ago, because I'm with you. If Kenny Pickett's gonna

1605
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: look like that now, he was playing one of the

1606
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: best defens in the league. He looked terrifying. But you Hayward,

1607
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 1: you lose Dantae Johnson. Let's face it, I like this

1608
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: guy in college, and maybe I'm a little biased because

1609
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: he grew up right down the street from where I

1610
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: used to live. Now, gee, Harris looks like a guy

1611
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: and that's not a great player. That's just a guy.

1612
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: Like he just looks like a run of the mill

1613
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: running back. And when you draft a guy in the

1614
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: first round, he's not bringing much to the table, so

1615
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: you already lose a charter on defense, you lose a

1616
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 1: charter on offense, a ton of pressure on your quarterback.

1617
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Steeler fans are not super

1618
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: high on their offensive coordinator. Yeah, maybe they are mid

1619
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: and maybe this mid as in John Middlecoff and he's

1620
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: a backup off of maybe I will kind of crazy

1621
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: when you think about it. If Bledstone never got hurt,

1622
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 1: would we have seen Brady weird to think that it

1623
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: would have been how it would have gone if it

1624
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: never played out that way? My question for the mailbag

1625
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: is this. I think the problem with that is with

1626
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: that specific example. They clearly liked Tom a lot, right,

1627
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: They kept him in two thousand as the fourth quarterback,

1628
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: and then in one they made him the backup. And

1629
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: Belichick in in Cleveland, not Vinnie Testaverdi, but whatever, you know,

1630
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland sports guy's gonna be pissed at me. Whatever their

1631
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: quarterback was who had been there before he got there,

1632
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: he essentially bench cut whatever. So Belichick's pretty ruthless that.

1633
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: I think he didn't have the juice because Kraft had

1634
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: just paid bledd Soel a bunch of money. But I

1635
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: think he would have gone out swinging if he would

1636
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: have thought he could upgrade at that position, and Brady

1637
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: was the upgrade. The Patriots schedule coming up, they can

1638
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: easily go on four. You think it's out of reach

1639
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: for Kraft to let go Bill go mid season? Yeah,

1640
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: I do. Like if Bill Belichick is eventually fired, whether

1641
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: it's this year, whether it's next year, there is zero

1642
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,879
Speaker 1: champs on God's Green Earth, and this would be insane.

1643
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: He's earned it unless he did something, you know, crazy

1644
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: off the field. You can never fire Bill Belichick midseason.

1645
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: Can't do it. He's unfireable mid season. Honestly, even after

1646
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: the season. You basically pay him this contract and you

1647
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: just kind of pay him to go away, right, and honestly,

1648
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: you probably give them a bonus as a thank you.

1649
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: It's a unique situation. Even if this year they win

1650
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: six games and you're like, we just got to go

1651
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: in a different direction, just we just need a fresh start.

1652
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: He's a made man that way. I actually think that

1653
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: you'll be a little more competitive in the next couple

1654
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: weeks than you think. He got the Jets in two weeks.

1655
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: We know how he plays Zach Wilson. Clearly we aren't

1656
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: a true playoff team. I still gotta watch the Patriots

1657
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if they could just be like an ugly

1658
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: version of a team that just hangs around. I'm curious

1659
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: about how these coaches signed deals with school teams and

1660
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: then leave if a better opportunity comes along, if their

1661
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: deals aren't up. Are there always buyout clauses in these deals?

1662
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: Who pays the buyout the coach or the school the

1663
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: team they're leaving for? For example, deon Side is a

1664
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: five year, thirty million dollar contract with Colorado. If he

1665
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: wants to leave in a couple of years, how does

1666
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: he get out of the remaining years? You'd have to

1667
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: ask a specific agent how the wording is in terms

1668
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: of non compete, because clearly there's not like you can

1669
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 1: just go to another Power five. There are buyouts in contracts,

1670
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: like Jimbo Fisher has an enormous buyout right like I

1671
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: would imagine Kirby Smart and Nick Saban, these guys have

1672
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: astronomical buyouts. But you're not bound, Like, that's a great

1673
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: question that I've always wondered. For example, I can't just

1674
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: hire let's say Doug Peterson, you know, wins the Super

1675
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: Bowl with Jacksonville, and I'm like, I'm just using this example.

1676
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm like the Jets. It's like I want to offer

1677
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson thirty million dollars to be my head coach.

1678
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: He can't leave like that, and that never happens, right

1679
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: the only time a coach we've seen it with Sean Payton,

1680
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: John Grutne yet like trade for him. Yet in college,

1681
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: the only thing you have to pay is the buyout. Now,

1682
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 1: the buyout is is always paid. I guess the coach

1683
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: technically could add to it, but it's usually paid by

1684
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 1: the boosters at the other school. So when I want

1685
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: coach whoever, I have to If is buys ten million dollars,

1686
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: I have to pay him whatever the number is, right,

1687
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: fifty million, thirty million, one hundred million like Lincoln Riley,

1688
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: And then I have to also cut. Now, you don't

1689
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: have to pay that all up front, but you know

1690
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, Then you have to cut the check

1691
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: for whatever the buyout is to the school. Like I

1692
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: was reading about the Meltucker situation. You know who finances

1693
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: the Meltucker contract. It's the dude that owns the Phoenix Suns,

1694
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: Matt A. Shpia. He was the guy. Because it's like,

1695
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: where does Michigan's take it? A hundred million dollars to

1696
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: pay a coach the booster. So when they hired Meltucker

1697
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 1: away from Colorado, I would imagine he had a little buyout.

1698
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: A guy like that cuts the check. And I'm not

1699
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: looking this up, so my number could be wrong, but

1700
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: let's just say he had an eight million dollar buyout

1701
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: in Colorado. Someone typically around the program cuts that money.

1702
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: Can you talk about Jake Rosenberg and your experience with him,

1703
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: He's how he's number one guy when it comes to

1704
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: the cap. He just seems like a terrific asset. He

1705
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 1: doesn't get talked about enough. Also Patriot fan who wanted

1706
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,440
Speaker 1: to jump ship. He's the biggest loser in all the humanity.

1707
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: He's literally the last person to even think about something

1708
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: so stupid. Jake was there. I think he his first

1709
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: year was my last year there. Him and Howie. I

1710
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: don't know if they grew up together, but they definitely

1711
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,520
Speaker 1: knew each other outside of football, so they had a relationship.

1712
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: He was a lawyer and you know, a decade later,

1713
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: he's still there. He you know how he is, how

1714
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: he's really smart. And the people that they had when

1715
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I was there, including Jake, and they have Alec Hallaby.

1716
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Like they have highly highly educated people there, and they

1717
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: do a great job of like blending the education like

1718
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: in terms of really smart minds with the football people.

1719
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: And they're all kind of you know, integrated, all under

1720
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: one umbrella. And what makes Howie unique is like the

1721
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: dude loves football. I mean he's an addict. I often

1722
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: talk about these coaches, all the GMS, their addicts, like

1723
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: how he eats breeze, leaves football beside his family. So

1724
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a big hobby guy, Like it's

1725
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: just football and his family. Football and his family. And

1726
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: he clearly before I ever got there and met him,

1727
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: he had put in a lot of effort. You know,

1728
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: the guy knows the league like the back of his hand.

1729
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: And you know he came up negotiating the contracts. Obviously,

1730
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: he came up on the cap side, so he knows

1731
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: that as well as anyone as well. It's why they're

1732
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: so strong at being able to be fluid and negotiate

1733
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: these contracts. So yeah, I mean I can't. I know,

1734
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: everyone loves Jake that works there. I always had a

1735
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: good relationship with him in my short time. And yeah,

1736
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: there's just one thing. The Eagles have. It's just kind

1737
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: of everyone's on the same page with kind of what

1738
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: they're doing financially, the type players they're looking for. Obviously

1739
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: Howie and Sirianni's relationship. I mean I watched a decent

1740
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: amount of like their post training camp down to the

1741
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: fifty three man press conferences and draft press conferences. It's

1742
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: amazing how strong you are when you're on the same

1743
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: page with the main people in your front office, like

1744
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: the coach, the GM, the cap negotiator. I see it

1745
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: with the forty nine Ers, Kyle Shanahan, Perogue, John Lynch.

1746
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: It's like it's easy to get shit done. So I

1747
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: don't know if I really answered the question because it's

1748
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: hard for me to really speak in detail. Besides, I

1749
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: always liked him. I wanted to hear your take on

1750
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: how the rise in fantasy football popularity in Madden video

1751
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: games has affected NFL fans. I've noticed that there are

1752
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: less diehard fans or fans of specific teams in my

1753
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: generation Gen Z younger millennials. I think Madden games, along

1754
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: with fantasy have shifted the younger fan base to be

1755
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: fans of individual players more than fans of a specific team.

1756
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: This reminds me of the NBA, as it is more

1757
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: player centric. What are your thoughts on this? Why push

1758
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: back on the Madden thing. I grew up with Madden

1759
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: in when I was a kid in the early to

1760
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 1: mid nineties, so I think football in video games in general,

1761
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: and I would speak to this in baseball or basketball,

1762
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: like I always had favorite players on other teams right

1763
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I love Brett Farv, I

1764
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,799
Speaker 1: love Charles Barkley. I love Shaquille O'Neal right, I loved

1765
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Mike mussina. I love cal Ripken right, I love Wan Gonzales.

1766
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: I think that's a natural reaction for younger fans to

1767
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: just especially because that's usually the last time that you

1768
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: kind of play is in junior high, high school. Like

1769
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: you're playing these sports, so you you know, maybe your

1770
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: team sucks and you just gravitate toward other people. Now

1771
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: I've attended a lot of NFL games over the last decade,

1772
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: it does feel like younger fans are wearing the home

1773
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: team's jersey, at least in my experience. But I think

1774
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: fantasy football, I mean, fantasy football has been big now

1775
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: for a couple decades, so I don't know if it's quite.

1776
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: The NBA is different because only one or two player

1777
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: matter on every team, so it's just really easy. Like

1778
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 1: NBA jam was a really big deal when I was young,

1779
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: and it's just like two best players on every team.

1780
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: But it's always kind of been a player league. This

1781
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: to me, is still about the brand it's always had, right,

1782
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: But some stars are just easy root for.

1783
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1784
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: But I still think geographically where you grew up, who

1785
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: your parents root for has a huge impact. So I'm

1786
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: not saying you're wrong, but I still feel like we're

1787
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, pretty far away from having some massive impact.

1788
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: I could be being naive, though, I'll be the first

1789
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 1: to admit. Brock Purty is on a three million dollar contract.

1790
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 1: If he has a good season and leads the Niners

1791
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game, would he be in line

1792
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: for a contract extension.

1793
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: No.

1794
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: The first time a non first rounder can extend his

1795
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: contract is after year three, So every guy in the

1796
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: second round to an undrafted free agents has a four

1797
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: year contract. So Brock parties in year two, he would

1798
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: have to play this season out and then next year

1799
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: he would have to play that full season out. Now,

1800
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: one thing I would imagine the Niners are gonna do is.

1801
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: I saw them do this with George Kittle. They will

1802
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: do this with him. They will and brands will want

1803
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: to be involved, the Silicon Valley brands like they will

1804
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: get find a way to get in money. But that's

1805
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: part of drafting a guy at that spot, Like you

1806
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: just don't make that much money. It's not anyone's fault.

1807
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: First play of the game, Staley is a joke, I agree, Tay.

1808
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: Last question, do you get a feeling that if he's

1809
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: not careful, Josh Allen could follow Carson Wentz's career? I

1810
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: would say no, because Josh is just way better. I

1811
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: think Josh is a much more fluid athlete. He obviously

1812
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: hasn't been injured yet at the level in which Carson was.

1813
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you can never and this is

1814
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: a quarterback, isn't alone. You could say this for a podcast,

1815
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: or you could say this for a restaurant, like you

1816
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: always gotta be careful in a competitive industry to not

1817
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: be adapting, to not be improving, and if you're getting

1818
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: worse or just staying stagnant, you're gonna get passed and

1819
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna have issues. Right, So, I think they gotta

1820
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: go to the drawing board and just figure out ways

1821
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: to get the train back on the tracks. Now, maybe

1822
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: that game was a one off, but you have a

1823
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: couple more games like that. All of a sudden, we

1824
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 1: talk about like this guy's a top five quarterback right now,

1825
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 1: and then in a couple of years, if it happens

1826
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: like back to back seasons, you're like, wait, we're paying

1827
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: forty eight million dollars for this. So sports changes on

1828
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: you quickly. Right, things come out of left field that

1829
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: you never would have imagined a couple years ago. After

1830
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Kyler is awesome, two years later, worst contract in sports.

1831
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: Wouldn't want them within fifty feet of my franchise. Now,

1832
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: that's a bad example, because no one ever acted like

1833
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: Kyler was as good as Josh or even like Wentz

1834
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: by year three. But I'm telling you, man, I think

1835
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: we're all just assumed that once a player becomes good,

1836
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: he sustains being good slash great. That's just not the

1837
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 1: way it works, Right. There are a lot of like

1838
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: two hit wonders, right, There are a lot of guys

1839
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: that had a couple good years in their career. Like,

1840
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: not every band is Metallica, or the Rolling Stones. Some

1841
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: put out three good songs total. Right, So Josh Allen's

1842
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: had some good years. He's got to maintain it now.

1843
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in them. I root for the guy.

1844
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,919
Speaker 1: But what we witnessed the other night, like that was alarming.

1845
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: That was really, really alarming. So I think he's one

1846
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: of the more fascinating guys to watch week two. Appreciate

1847
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: everyone hitting me up. I know I got a lot

1848
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: more people to hit. Have a great weekend, and I

1849
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:20,839
Speaker 1: will talk to everyone soon. Audios. The volume