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Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: RG three wants Caleb Williams to pull an Eli Manning
Speaker 1: and demand the Bears don't draft him. He said, with
Speaker 1: everything that just happened with Justin Fields, can Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: really look at that and say, this organization has my
Speaker 1: best interest in heart and they're going to do it.
Speaker 1: They're going to help develop me into the player I
Speaker 1: want to become.
Speaker 3: Do you agree with RG three's assessment.
Speaker 5: I mean somewhat, I do agree based on the way
Speaker 5: they handled the Justin Fields situation. You look at it
Speaker 5: from our organization organizational standpoint. To me, I think Caleb
Speaker 5: Williams is such an immense talent that he can overcome
Speaker 5: the shortcomings that are going on with the Bears right now,
Speaker 5: obviously the offensive editions that they did.
Speaker 4: Add I would have to have a talk with management.
Speaker 5: I would have to talk have a talk with management
Speaker 5: and what are your your two year three year plan?
Speaker 4: What's your your two year three year goals?
Speaker 5: As far as I'm concerned, as far as me being
Speaker 5: into the into the fold as the starting quarterback for
Speaker 5: the Bears, I mean it's it's very important. But then
Speaker 5: you look at it on the flip side. Let's say
Speaker 5: he does the man to sit out and wants to
Speaker 5: go somewhere else. Obviously, Eli Manning was drafted by the
Speaker 5: by the Chargers, but then eventually he went to the
Speaker 5: New York Giants.
Speaker 4: What other teams are out there that.
Speaker 5: Would be good for him that don't have the quarterback
Speaker 5: position already filled out?
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm so with any job situation. So if
Speaker 1: somebody leaves a job, I'm not supposed to take that
Speaker 1: job because they mishandled somebody else.
Speaker 5: That what you're saying, Well, I mean no, I think
Speaker 5: and I understand what Robert was saying.
Speaker 4: I understand what he's saying.
Speaker 5: Will Caleb Williams pull and do what Eli Manning did, No,
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think he has the I'm.
Speaker 4: Not gonna the gohan's to pull that off.
Speaker 5: Obviously, Archie Manning and the history that they have with
Speaker 5: the NFL, I think it's he was able to pull
Speaker 5: that off.
Speaker 4: But I think Caleb.
Speaker 5: Williams he's going to be a bear and you're gonna
Speaker 5: have to do the best you can with and with
Speaker 5: the situation you're put in.
Speaker 1: Should a quarterback not want to go? Should a quarterback
Speaker 1: not to want to go to the Broncos consider how
Speaker 1: they handled Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Because so where do we stop this? Because every point Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you, Ojo. So I go
Speaker 1: back and study this stuff. There, we can go back
Speaker 1: and look at every NFL team and say they've mishandled
Speaker 1: a quarterback at some point in time in their history.
Speaker 1: So is that what we're gonna do because somebody got mishandled? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go there.
Speaker 4: You know, it's tough, it's very rough.
Speaker 5: And the fact that obviously you know, quarterbacks are given
Speaker 5: a three year span. They're given a three year span,
Speaker 5: and these organizations need to know for the development, the confidence.
Speaker 4: And which way you want your organization to go.
Speaker 5: You have to do everything you can and put him
Speaker 5: the right pieces around those quarterbacks, especially now, and this
Speaker 5: is this in this day and age.
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks don't sit back and wait, you can there's too much.
Speaker 1: Money involved at the tail, Lady, there's too much money
Speaker 1: at the end of the road, O Joe. And partner
Speaker 1: a partner, but there's too much money four years down
Speaker 1: the line in order for you to have to wait
Speaker 1: because I'm going to have to cut somebody check for
Speaker 1: a quarter of a billion. Well, Caleb Williams, the minimum
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get, if he's what people believe the
Speaker 1: minimum he's gonna get, it's three hundred million. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's also why I knew he would not be going back. Well,
Speaker 1: Marvin and Junior, same thing. What the nil can pay
Speaker 1: him what he can make it?
Speaker 4: No, they can.
Speaker 1: And second of all, all you're doing is delaying a
Speaker 1: year from free agency.
Speaker 4: All you doing is is push the free agency.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna push down the road an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get one hundred and twenty five million, two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty million, one hundred and fifty million. If I'm a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push down the road the ability to get
Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars for me. I look at if
Speaker 1: I'm Caleb Williams, I look at they got DJ Moore,
Speaker 1: They just got Keenan Allen, they got Cole commit They
Speaker 1: Now could we go into the line going to the
Speaker 1: draft and get an offensive lineman to protect to protect
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams sure, that's a possibility now because with Keenan Allen,
Speaker 1: with DJ Moore, with your DJ Moore and Cole commit.
Speaker 1: I like the skill because I can go get me
Speaker 1: a third receiver, Oh Joe on down the line, maybe
Speaker 1: the third of the fourth round. But now I need
Speaker 1: to think about somebody that's gonna protect the investment. I
Speaker 1: don't care how much money you got in the bank,
Speaker 1: you better have some guards. You better have some security guard.
Speaker 4: To protect it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's what you need. So that's why you
Speaker 1: look at Caleb Williams. You look at him as an investment.
Speaker 1: Now I need parameters around him to protect it.
Speaker 4: You see, It's one thing for you to say it.
Speaker 5: It's one thing for you said, but or is mister
Speaker 5: Poles and the rest of the organization willing to do
Speaker 5: what they need to do to make sure they're going
Speaker 5: to protect that investment. So you get the best, the
Speaker 5: most of So you get the most that you can
Speaker 5: out of him early, so when when year three is up,
Speaker 5: you're willing to pay him without any regrets or any
Speaker 5: second thoughts.
Speaker 4: I believe they are.
Speaker 1: They also signed Jailled Everett, who they passed catching tied end.
Speaker 1: They signed DeAndre Swift running back from the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: And look at the defense they got all pro Jalen Johnson,
Speaker 1: who was sensational Monte Sweat that they traded for and
Speaker 1: got from the Washington football team, right the commander. I
Speaker 1: think that that's where they got him from. So you're
Speaker 1: talking about a top ten defense. I'm probably possibly set
Speaker 1: now I need protect I'm gonna make sure I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna make the same mistakes that I made with Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: And sometimes, you know, we can learn from the mistakes
Speaker 1: that we made to make sure we don't make them
Speaker 1: again because we got Justin Fields, but we forgot people,
Speaker 1: forgot a situation where we needed to protect him. But
Speaker 1: he also feels made some mistakes by you know, not
Speaker 1: shifting the line one way or another. Take it unnecessary punishment,
Speaker 1: But that comes along with maturity. You learn you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna take.
Speaker 4: Too many of them.
Speaker 1: Right here under the chin, o Joe, we've all taken them,
Speaker 1: but we learned I ain't going across there no more.
Speaker 1: I might have my hand on swif I wonna know
Speaker 1: where that hits coming from. But I for me, I
Speaker 1: disagree with RG three. I understand what he's said, but
Speaker 1: we gotta be careful, try to encourage people to do
Speaker 1: something because we disagree with how situation handled before, because
Speaker 1: we can look at go back and look at it
Speaker 1: and says, you know what, they mishandled that team too.
Speaker 4: We've got that damn fun man. No, don't you know.
Speaker 5: Honestly, it happens every year, especially look at the running
Speaker 5: back position, Look at running back position and the positions
Speaker 5: that NFL teams and owners don't feel are valuable anymore.
Speaker 4: Hell, they ain't handling none of them, right.
Speaker 1: Uh? Is that?
Speaker 3: How's your audio? Your microphone?
Speaker 4: What's wrong with it? You can't hear me? Huh? Hold on,
Speaker 4: you can't hear me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they say, you sound like you in the in
Speaker 3: the bathroom.
Speaker 4: How sound now? Is it better? Hello? Hello, Hello? Better
Speaker 4: it is? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, but they had to hit the button. Thank
Speaker 5: you for thank you for telling me I had the
Speaker 5: button on the side of.
Speaker 3: My They said, it sounds like you were doing the
Speaker 3: number three, A one.
Speaker 4: M or two.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no, I'm good.
Speaker 5: Sorry about that, Sorry about that chat.
Speaker 3: But think about it, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: They signed new office of coordinator Shane Waldron playing play calling,
Speaker 1: experience building around the quarterback, and they have the number
Speaker 1: nine pick in the draft, so they get number one
Speaker 1: pick from Carolina and they have their own number nine pick,
Speaker 1: which is top ten. So if i'd them looking at
Speaker 1: what I got on defense, I'm going offensive line. If
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman from he seems to be the highest
Speaker 1: rated offensive lineman in the draft today. Yeah. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I think his daddy played with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I played against his dad back
Speaker 1: in the well. I didn't play against it, but I
Speaker 1: was on the Broncos teams that played against Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I think his dad was John aut So that's why
Speaker 1: that's where I would go. That's what if I'm if
Speaker 1: I'm uh Ryan Poles, I'm going to that name, I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm good. I'm getting an offensive lineman show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give somebody to protect him. Now, I wish he
Speaker 1: could have got Tyler's Tyron Smith. Now I understand what
Speaker 1: comes along with Tyron because he hadn't been able to
Speaker 1: play a full season in a very long time. But
Speaker 1: those twelve or thirteen games that you are gonna get it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be well protected.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially on the left side, especially the blind side
Speaker 5: actually right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's what you need. So I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem. I don't have a problem.
Speaker 4: I like this.
Speaker 1: He has weapons Dj Moore, Keenan Allen, two one thousand
Speaker 1: yard receivers, Cole Comet, Gerald Everett two pants catching tight
Speaker 1: ends DeAndre Swift at the running back position. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I can go into the draft and get a wide
Speaker 1: receiver with the third or fourth round pick, but with
Speaker 1: that ninth pick, I'm going to get an offensive line.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna get somebody that's gonna protect him because
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody left in the draft
Speaker 1: that's gonna give you that kind of value where you
Speaker 1: can protect the quarterback.
Speaker 3: So I can mix a match from there.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to the first pick and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take well, first pick I'm gonna take is Kayleb Williams.
Speaker 1: The second pick that I'm going to take is going
Speaker 1: to be an offensive lineman. Also coach Prime head coach
Speaker 1: to see you Buffs also spoke about Caleb Landing at
Speaker 1: Chicago and said said he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Like the landing spot. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I have a problem with kids coming from California for
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, right went to Oklahoma's not
Speaker 1: terribly cold.
Speaker 3: Chicago is cold.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You gotta think about that kind of stuff when you're
Speaker 1: taking a young man.
Speaker 4: Listen, I would you good to.
Speaker 1: Know, like like see, when you take a guy from
Speaker 1: Ohio State, you bring in Chicago. Okay, I can understand that,
Speaker 1: But from California to Chicago, not only that, they added
Speaker 1: what one or two more games in the NFL seventeen games?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you gotta factor stuff in that stuff matters,
Speaker 1: Oh Jo, If you don't mind, men, can I ask
Speaker 1: you a question?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: Can you tell the people at home where Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: played college ball.
Speaker 4: At Texas Tech? Is it cold or is it is
Speaker 4: it cold?
Speaker 3: Or is it a hot? In Texas?
Speaker 4: It's hot?
Speaker 3: The boy where does he play football at?
Speaker 4: Now Kansas City? Boss?
Speaker 1: If you don't be ond me asking, but your quarterback,
Speaker 1: can you tell the people at home where he played
Speaker 1: college ball.
Speaker 4: At USC LSU Oh, it's about job. What you mean Carson?
Speaker 4: You said my.
Speaker 1: Quarterback, your current quarterback. But to Carson, yeah, yeah, Carson,
Speaker 1: USC and.
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow played at l s U.
Speaker 1: Uls You hot let's see Cincinnati, Cole, Baltimore, Cole, Pittsburgh Cold,
Speaker 1: Cleveland cold. At what point time do we start stop
Speaker 1: making an excuse for the If the guy can play,
Speaker 1: he can play. John Alway played in Stanford, he came
Speaker 1: to Denver. Did it work out? So we're gonna So
Speaker 1: if a god doesn't pan out, are we really gonna
Speaker 1: blame the weather?
Speaker 4: Is that what we blamed it on?
Speaker 1: That? Really?
Speaker 4: I think it's just something.
Speaker 5: I think it's something just that that that you have
Speaker 5: to factor and it's it's one of those what do
Speaker 5: you call it a I call it anal, one of
Speaker 5: those antal things that that scouts look at, one of
Speaker 5: those things that owners look at, you know, they nickpicked.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they go back to elementary and find something that
Speaker 5: you did wrong in elementary and use that against you.
Speaker 5: You know, just just small stuff that really doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: And I think for a player of his caliber, Caleb
Speaker 5: Williams will be able to adapt then environment and he'll
Speaker 5: be he'll be fine in Chicago until you get them
Speaker 5: goddamn until you get them games.
Speaker 1: Guess what if you don't mind me asking, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: do you know what Caleb Williams grew.
Speaker 4: Up at you not from You're not from l A. Washington,
Speaker 4: d C. Oh get.
Speaker 1: That right, No, it doesn't what you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me you huh. Yeah, you mean to tell me you
Speaker 1: said that and you're not Willids Scott or al Roker.
Speaker 4: You tell me to get cold in DC. Man.
Speaker 3: We gotta stop this, man, we gotta stop this.
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that we try to build
Speaker 1: their excuses for these guys.
Speaker 4: Mhm.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm taking the guy best available. I don't give
Speaker 1: it damn way from. I don't care if he played
Speaker 1: in Antarctica and he has to come to Miami or
Speaker 1: he has to play I don't care.
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care if a guy played in Texas and
Speaker 1: I gotta bring his ass to Pittsburgh. I'm taking the
Speaker 1: best guy available that I need at a position. So
Speaker 1: if I need a quarterback, I don't care. If he
Speaker 1: played on the dome he had about to have his
Speaker 1: ants outside.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be all right, He's gonna be all right,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be straight.
Speaker 3: Snows in nor take. So let me ask your question.
Speaker 4: So it.
Speaker 1: He played from d C. So it don't get cold
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. It gets just as colding Oklahoma as.
Speaker 4: It does Texas. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I when I was at Langston and got
Speaker 5: cold up there. Now he got cold up there, of
Speaker 5: course it does.
Speaker 4: It gets at some point in time. It gets cold everywhere.
Speaker 1: He'll it get cold here sometime in southern California, and
Speaker 1: stop making the excuse for these kids.
Speaker 3: Let him play.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna pass you.
Speaker 1: You know what, Ojoe the highst one of the highest
Speaker 1: rated players on the board. I'm gonna pass him up
Speaker 1: because he spent two years in southern cal and we
Speaker 1: playing the cold weather climate. So I'm gonna pass him up,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take somebody else that's lesser down, that's
Speaker 1: not grated as high, but because I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to adapt better than the cook to the
Speaker 1: cold weather.
Speaker 4: No, that ain't happen, you know, it ain't happening. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I played.
Speaker 1: I guess where I played, Savannah State. Guess where they
Speaker 1: sent in my black as Denver cold?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, and then it for good Man, I went
Speaker 4: to Baltimore cold cold.
Speaker 1: It is sent my black hands back to Denver. So
Speaker 1: I was okay, Yeah, I just think the thing is,
Speaker 1: Like I said, John Elway spent four years in Stamford
Speaker 1: and he went to Denver.
Speaker 4: Guy's adapt.
Speaker 3: Guys of Adapt, just like.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady grew up in northern California and he took
Speaker 1: his ass all the way to Michigan.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hell, New England for twenty goddamn years.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, guys of Adapt, you understand, you understand when you signed, like, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm from the No, I'm from the South. I gotta
Speaker 1: go because guys from Guys from Florida go all the
Speaker 1: time go to Ohio State. Guys from Georgia they go
Speaker 1: all the time to Michigan, Ohio State. Guys from Alabama,
Speaker 1: South chich Hello, where the c J strive from calif.
Speaker 3: And that's where he played college ball.
Speaker 4: At Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Now why would he do that? Man, Man, we gotta
Speaker 3: stop this.
Speaker 4: It don't matter. He's gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: Hell, you ain't gonna be all right all right, Like
Speaker 1: I said, it's uh, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 4: You know. It was cold to me.
Speaker 1: It was called it was cold when I was growing
Speaker 1: up in Georgia. But all of a sudden I make
Speaker 1: a little money. It wasn't nearly a colo it was
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 4: But you're a jacket. Huh.
Speaker 3: My graduate brought me a little wind breaker.
Speaker 1: You know you want well put that wind break on
Speaker 1: out there that we'd still cutting through my chips.
Speaker 4: Oh oh shoe you boy?
Speaker 1: Added again, Stephan Diggs expected to remain with Buffalo.
Speaker 4: You got damn right. Where else he gonna go? Well,
Speaker 4: where else he gonna go? That's that boy.
Speaker 3: Oh hold on, he said, ready for whatever?
Speaker 1: While Diggs mysterious folks indicate their babies maybe some uncertainty,
Speaker 1: it seems unlikely Buffalo would trade its top receiver this
Speaker 1: sopseater offseason. Remember now they lost Gave Davis. Should the
Speaker 1: Bills want to keep Stephan Diggs?
Speaker 5: God, damn right, you're gonna keep Stepan Diggs, your top
Speaker 5: five achieve in NFL, one of the best rock runners
Speaker 5: there is that have ever played the goddamn game. You
Speaker 5: know Steph had a good season last year, one hundred
Speaker 5: and seven eleven eighty three yards at DS. What you mean, listen,
Speaker 5: if you let Stephon Diggs walk right as a Bills fan,
Speaker 5: as a Josh sh Allen fan, for me, what are
Speaker 5: you telling your fans the wind of opportunity? It ain't
Speaker 5: that big right, So offensively, you always fall short.
Speaker 4: You've been falling short.
Speaker 5: Who is your best offensive weapon outside of Josh motherfucking Allen.
Speaker 5: He war number fourteen. Yeah, he wars number fourteen Because
Speaker 5: of number fourteen. It opens up everything else offensively wherever
Speaker 5: he lines up. Now, what they need to do offensively
Speaker 5: and do a little better job of is finding a
Speaker 5: way to implement him more in the offense and stop
Speaker 5: allowing defenses later on in the season to take him away.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what what They covering.
Speaker 5: Digs whatever they do, and they they man the man,
Speaker 5: They roll the coverage his way. Let's find ways to
Speaker 5: getting the ball, to keep the ball moving, keep the
Speaker 5: chains moving, not just let him fall by the wayside.
Speaker 5: Then you throw them an important ball when it matters
Speaker 5: the most at times. And then that that laughs in
Speaker 5: that laughs and focused because you hadn't been touching it
Speaker 5: so long.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, Sometimes you don't make the play that he should.
Speaker 5: You know why, because I've god damn fucking cold, and
Speaker 5: I've been running a goddamn track me marathon for goddamn
Speaker 5: three quarters.
Speaker 4: Like come on, Matt, I mean, there's so many and
Speaker 4: it's it's so easy to do.
Speaker 5: It's so easy to do because for some reason, it
Speaker 5: seems other teams have figured out have figured a way
Speaker 5: to get their blessed best players of the ball throughout the
Speaker 5: entirety of the season and not allowing and not allowing
Speaker 5: team to dictate what they want to do offensively. Stephan
Speaker 5: dis ain't going to matter of fact, it's Stefan Digg's leave.
Speaker 4: I beat his ass. That's how I feel, because he
Speaker 4: needs to he needs a call. He needs to make sure,
Speaker 4: for one with Josh Allen and for one with management
Speaker 4: upstairs and downstairs that everything is okay, that we all
Speaker 4: on the same page. Well, if he stop tweeting now
Speaker 4: that tweet at that tweet got to do affection, I
Speaker 4: gotta do what read the tweet again? What the tweet said?
Speaker 4: Ready for whatever? Yeah, he talked about his next outfit.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I know Steph.
Speaker 5: Like I, he got it. He got his style for me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so that's something I used to say back in back,
Speaker 5: back in like at ninety two.
Speaker 4: What's that song lyrics?
Speaker 1: I know what you meant. Stephan Diggs had over eleven
Speaker 1: hundred yards. He didn't have eleven thousand.
Speaker 5: So you know, my bad man, I mean eleven eighty three.
Speaker 5: My bad, My man, I had got excited. You know
Speaker 5: anytime receivers, you know, I get hyped.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, this is what I know about receiving,
Speaker 1: especially guys that are wired like him. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep the ball out of his hands early so he'll
Speaker 1: get frustrated, and then when they throw it to him late,
Speaker 1: he gonna have a lapse in concentration and drop it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yeah that's all.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the same blueprint they did
Speaker 1: with to What did they do to t o early?
Speaker 4: Double it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they him get frustrated.
Speaker 5: But see, and this is the funny thing. I think
Speaker 5: teams know that. Offensive coordinators know that. Head coaches know that.
Speaker 5: So as as the coach, as a head coach of
Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills, as the offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 5: what do you want to do?
Speaker 4: You want step to touch the ball early.
Speaker 5: It don't even have to be nothing crazy, form a
Speaker 5: goddamn smoke route, Let him touch the ball, let him
Speaker 5: feel the ball on you as a tight end. No
Speaker 5: had feels when you touch that ball early, you are
Speaker 5: locked in for the entirety of the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you feel like you were part of the
Speaker 4: game plan I did.
Speaker 1: I wanted the ball. I'm not finning, I'm not fitning
Speaker 1: a lot and say I didn't. But this is what
Speaker 1: I This is what I This is what I realized.
Speaker 1: I didn't get paid by the catch, just like I
Speaker 1: don't get paid by the word. When I'm on television,
Speaker 1: people are like, man, you don't even speak that much
Speaker 1: of undisputed.
Speaker 3: They don't pay me for the word. I get paid
Speaker 3: the day rate.
Speaker 1: So if I don't say before words, I got the
Speaker 1: same day rate if I talk for an hour straight. Yes,
Speaker 1: So the way I look at it, O Joe, you
Speaker 1: want to throw me the ball, I'm gonna crease your
Speaker 1: chance to win it.
Speaker 3: But if you don't. But guess what, O Joe, Hey,
Speaker 3: we got it.
Speaker 1: We should have got you about when they used to say, man,
Speaker 1: hey eighty four, we got to get you more involved early.
Speaker 1: I ain't say yeah, you're right. I kept walking mm
Speaker 1: hmm nine at the time because the you're telling me that,
Speaker 1: as opposed to you doing that in the time it's over.
Speaker 5: And see, this is a game. They also play chests.
Speaker 5: Stay with me real quick. This is a game also
Speaker 5: teams that play when it comes time to make business decisions.
Speaker 4: Now, what they'll do.
Speaker 5: Now if you look at Stefan diggs numbers and targets
Speaker 5: throughout the entirety of his career, again, he had a
Speaker 5: good year last year, a good year not to the
Speaker 5: terms in which I see him as, because I still
Speaker 5: see him as top three, top five, no matter what
Speaker 5: anybody says regards to what the young fellas are doing
Speaker 5: right now in the NFL, because they allow team to
Speaker 5: take him away.
Speaker 4: Now, what they're gonna do. I'm gonna tell you the
Speaker 4: games they gonna play.
Speaker 5: They're gonna they're gonna have a season, right, They're gonna
Speaker 5: have a season this year, and I'm hoping things turn
Speaker 5: around for them offensively where they don't allow team to
Speaker 5: dictate because you know what they're gonna do. They're gonna
Speaker 5: come to come to him at the end of the season. Well,
Speaker 5: you know what, based on what you're making in your
Speaker 5: stats don't line up together. You see, I'm soryingbody production
Speaker 5: and what you command as far as your salier is concerned.
Speaker 4: You know it don't go hand in hand. That's the
Speaker 4: game they like to play. Hell, you know you know
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to say. For sure.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know sometimes Joe, they'll come to you when
Speaker 1: you had a great year, aske Keenan Allen Keenan Allen said,
Speaker 1: I just had my greatest year talking about this and
Speaker 1: you're talking about take a pay cut.
Speaker 3: So I have a great year, you say, take a
Speaker 3: pay cut. I have a year. You say, take a
Speaker 3: pay cut.
Speaker 5: No, but again, listen, it's the business that's what.
Speaker 3: Charge you.
Speaker 4: But again, it's the it's the business side of things
Speaker 4: that I do not like.
Speaker 5: Again, Step, I know you're gonna see this. I need
Speaker 5: you to call management. I need to call Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: If you want to do a three way. You want
Speaker 5: to do a three way, you can get me on
Speaker 5: the call. I want to make sure things Okay. I
Speaker 5: know what you could do.
Speaker 4: They know what you do. The rest of the world
Speaker 4: knew what you can do. We shouldn't even be having
Speaker 4: discussions like this anyway, whether you're gonna be there or not.
Speaker 5: You give them their best chance in the regular season
Speaker 5: and in the postseason. If the goddamn organization, if the
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills organization is serious with a small window of
Speaker 5: opportunity that they do have about not only getting to
Speaker 5: the postseason, but when in the goddamn Lombardy, you have
Speaker 5: to be part of that, and you let me know
Speaker 5: because if I need to come down at the Buffalo.
Speaker 4: But he got to start with the cryptic tweets though,
Speaker 4: But that ain't got it's not football season. It's not
Speaker 4: football season.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I noticed, teams that.
Speaker 4: Wine question his love life. They could have just.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 4: Teams that win. Do you see this in the off season?
Speaker 4: So now a man can't tweet what do he want
Speaker 4: to in office? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But this is this is I mean, I think but
Speaker 1: every year, I remember when they first lost to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: he's sitting on the field. Every year when Philadelphia beat
Speaker 1: him in the playoffs, to go to the thing, he's
Speaker 1: hitting on the field.
Speaker 4: He wanted to soak it in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: When Kansas City beat them, he's sitting there soaking on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: They beat him again, he standing up at the start.
Speaker 1: He's doing all of this except when they throw his
Speaker 1: hands the ball laid in the ball game and he dropping.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean he didn't come up one play. He's human.
Speaker 4: He's human. He's due to make mistakes, as we all are.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, that's not what you're saying.
Speaker 1: You keep telling me he top five. He's not top
Speaker 1: five anymore. Your top five receiver.
Speaker 4: You got your receiver right now? Yeah, yeah, okay, you
Speaker 4: take it. Let's do it. CD. You taking them over, CD,
Speaker 4: you're taking the Can I say something? Can I say something?
Speaker 4: Can I say something?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: And I said I please, real quick, before you even start,
Speaker 5: before you name all the young bulls, Before you name
Speaker 5: all the young said top five, my top five still,
Speaker 5: and then you can pick whoever you want. Is still
Speaker 5: Davante Adams still number one, Stefan Diggs, and then got
Speaker 5: the Keenan Allen, and then everybody else comes along. This
Speaker 5: is what I don't like. Wait, let me finish. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna let you go. This is what I don't like.
Speaker 4: When things don't go well for the ones who are
Speaker 4: already in place, and.
Speaker 5: Those statistically, when things don't go well for them, all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, all the young bulls just overlap them automatically.
Speaker 5: When the teams that they're on aren't using the right
Speaker 5: whether it be the quarterback situation, whether it be teams
Speaker 5: allowed them to dictate what we want to do with
Speaker 5: some of our best players and the offensive weapons. So
Speaker 5: to me, to me, yeah, but you're you're basing everything
Speaker 5: off statistics, and I.
Speaker 4: Know what them boys can still tell me what the
Speaker 4: base receiver.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you why it's like that, Chase Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson. Then motherfuckers is all goddamn world. They are
Speaker 5: the motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: So you take it.
Speaker 1: You taking Stefan Diggs over them based on his body
Speaker 1: broke throughout all this update your resume.
Speaker 4: This is a year to year thing. Wait a minute,
Speaker 4: it's a year of the thing. You acting like he
Speaker 4: had some shitty goddamn season.
Speaker 1: To say, do you have a better year than Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, ce D Lamb, Jamar Jay, Mike Abby's a
Speaker 1: simple yes or no.
Speaker 4: You know, my answer is not changing regardless what you have,
Speaker 4: your answer changing.
Speaker 1: All I'm asking you is that you talk about body
Speaker 1: of work. This is not when he's going into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: This is about the twenties. Talk about hall of fame.
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about for me.
Speaker 5: For me, I'm thinking about the body of work that
Speaker 5: he's done from start to finish.
Speaker 4: Now, I know players might have.
Speaker 1: Had the finished it was Okay, he started from this year,
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty three to the end of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about twenty one. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: twenty two. Why are you are you?
Speaker 4: Are? You? Are?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 4: Are? You? Do you see what you're doing? You see
Speaker 4: what you're doing?
Speaker 5: You're saying because he's you're saying statistically, because he didn't
Speaker 5: have a good season like some of the others you
Speaker 5: just named, that means he's.
Speaker 4: Not in the top five. No more. That's not how
Speaker 4: it works.
Speaker 1: So you know, company company companies might have in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, you might have had five companies that were
Speaker 1: on the Fortune five hundred. Okay, they drop off. You
Speaker 1: can't say what they was on the Fortune five hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen twenty twenty. I give you another example
Speaker 1: on the World's Riches people that was in the World's
Speaker 1: Riches the top five riches people in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: They might not be that in twenty three. They might
Speaker 1: not be. But you can't say becoming their body of work,
Speaker 1: they get to stay there.
Speaker 5: Oh Joe, it's you see how we just talked about
Speaker 5: about how a team will allow offenses to take away
Speaker 5: your best threat and your best offensive weapon. Then we
Speaker 5: get into conversations like this, and you don't think that
Speaker 5: weapon is still e lead anymore because their numbers aren't
Speaker 5: like somebody else that was force fed the ball and
Speaker 5: had a better season.
Speaker 4: Oh ojo, do you see what I'm saying. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 5: Now, everybody you name it, Hey, I can break down
Speaker 5: offense on them because them boys are legit. I just
Speaker 5: don't like the fact that, Okay, you know what, these
Speaker 5: young bulls have had a better season.
Speaker 4: Staf Upon Diggs.
Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden he drops out of goddamn
Speaker 5: top five because he didn't have it.
Speaker 4: That's how it works. No, it's not how it works.
Speaker 4: That's not how it works. I'm so few have a question.
Speaker 4: So everybody just naming betting Devonte.
Speaker 3: Adams, Davonte Adams, don't get the home.
Speaker 4: Everybody that you just naming betting Devonte.
Speaker 1: Adams in twenty twenty three, they were yes, man, she man,
Speaker 1: you tripping the numbers speak for it.
Speaker 5: So you think everybody that you just naming betting DeVante
Speaker 5: Adams because they numbers say it.
Speaker 1: I'm saying based on twenty twenty three. This is an
Speaker 1: update your resume. This is not a lifetime achievement. Let's
Speaker 1: let's be realistic. Let's put the number aside. Everyone you
Speaker 1: just named.
Speaker 5: Do you really think they're better than the Devonte Emmanuel Adams.
Speaker 4: That plays for the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: You could say Samuel Adams, you could say Adam and Eve.
Speaker 1: You could say Davonte Adams based on tweety three three
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three stamps. Those guys had better seasons.
Speaker 4: Oh Joe, I love I loved you to death.
Speaker 5: I love Davonte, But ain't nobody better than Davonte Adams.
Speaker 1: You don't get the hold onto that ranking just because
Speaker 1: you've had great seasons. This is a that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that we love about sports. It's an update your resume.
Speaker 4: This is so unfair. This is so unfair.
Speaker 5: But by the rules you have to play and understanding host,
Speaker 5: let me just.
Speaker 4: Stay with me now and devant that middle name is level.
Speaker 4: I know I made that ship up. I just made
Speaker 4: that about Hey, but listen, hey, listen, who is.
Speaker 5: Who is Tay Adams over there in in in Las Vegas?
Speaker 5: Who is this quarterback?
Speaker 4: Oh? Man?
Speaker 1: He had Jimmy gar keep going, Jimmy, he had ain't O'Connell.
Speaker 3: I think those the last quarterback.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's it's this is why I hate ranking players, Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase, Kenyan, Allen Stefan Diggs, Mike Evans, Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 4: Stay with me a little bit, baby, stay with me
Speaker 4: real quick. I'm just listen.
Speaker 5: Tyreek is in the class of his own. Tyreek is
Speaker 5: in the class. But I know I said demonte Advam.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 5: You know how much I love Davonte God damn motherfucker
Speaker 5: brought me to tears watching his routs.
Speaker 4: Tyreeks is the class of his own.
Speaker 5: But all those dudes are worthy of being within the
Speaker 5: top five.
Speaker 4: That's why I hate. I hate when we use stats.
Speaker 5: Because you have to the game because of what we're in.
Speaker 5: But I look at it from a skilled point in
Speaker 5: understanding what they can do on the field. Now, some
Speaker 5: of the things that they're not in control of is
Speaker 5: how many times they get the ball, the targets, the receptions,
Speaker 5: the touchdown. But I know what they can do from
Speaker 5: a from a standpoint of being that I played the
Speaker 5: game and receiver and I know they still got it,
Speaker 5: and there's some things that are out of their hands,
Speaker 5: out of their control. That's why I'm so passionate when
Speaker 5: it comes to talk about them boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what you're saying, though, I get saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying uh uh that DeVante Adam is dropped
Speaker 1: off a cliff, But I'm just saying, but I'm you
Speaker 1: got it. You got to go by what we see.
Speaker 1: We don't get to say, yeah, we don't get to
Speaker 1: say when this guy's a top five back. Even though
Speaker 1: they got they got twelve thirty, they got ten guys
Speaker 1: that rush for more yards, they had a better yards
Speaker 1: per carry. But I remember two years ago to dude
Speaker 1: ran for twelve thousand yards. No, we can't do that.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that's the that's that's the numbers
Speaker 1: game that we have.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing we can evaluate it on.
Speaker 4: Right. But I just and I just I dive a
Speaker 4: little bit deeper. I dive.
Speaker 5: I like to dive a little bit deeper and understanding
Speaker 5: what these individual individuals can still do and because of
Speaker 5: things offensively, because most of everything is out of the control.
Speaker 4: Yeah, things dependent position, the wires in the dependent.
Speaker 5: Position exactly, and and it is frustrates me when we
Speaker 5: have topics. So we have conversations like this, and and
Speaker 5: I have to find ways to around the stats to
Speaker 5: tell you why they are still who they are because
Speaker 5: they are they're so relant on everybody else.
Speaker 3: But but you remember, I hate that. I get see.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm just this why I'm gonna push
Speaker 3: you back.
Speaker 1: You remember when d Hawk had seven eight quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: he was still first team All Pro.
Speaker 4: It didn't matter. They were feeding him. They were feeding
Speaker 4: him too. He gonna get it how we're eating it
Speaker 4: didn't matter.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, listen, since the sister Rose and Mary could
Speaker 5: have been that quarterback when you hit it, he was
Speaker 5: gonna eat.
Speaker 4: He getting open with everything right, animal. But did you
Speaker 4: see what they did? Yeah, they ken't feed the rock.
Speaker 5: They didn't allow anybody to dictate whether we whether he
Speaker 5: can get the ball or not.
Speaker 4: They moved him around. You gotta have that on you.
Speaker 1: But I think this sometimes, like as a wide receiver man,
Speaker 1: you get so frustrated, you running like I can imagine
Speaker 1: Davonte Ruther the chrispass route and the ball ain't ain't
Speaker 1: even nobody looking in side, or they don't sell it
Speaker 1: out of bound. They don't skipped it in the dirt? Man,
Speaker 1: do you know how frustrating it is because it's already
Speaker 1: hard to be the guy now wining clean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know what, I could sense it's frustration
Speaker 5: throughout the season.
Speaker 4: I said, film throughout the season. But he can't say
Speaker 4: because he got that C on his chest.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he knows there's more expected and demanded of him.
Speaker 1: And I love the way he conducts himself. I mean you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you you're gonna have some frustration, like damn,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have some of that, right, But
Speaker 1: if if you just watch him, every route is run
Speaker 1: with the same tenacity. He's still trying, he's still trying
Speaker 1: to fight and scratch for yards, run after the catch.
Speaker 1: But I just think that that I just think that
Speaker 1: what did Davante finish up with this year? Because I
Speaker 1: mean you look at what he started with Jimmy g
Speaker 1: and then he had a no calm? Did Brian Hooey
Speaker 1: even taking any did somebody takes him nap?
Speaker 4: But was just him.
Speaker 1: Just to Colin jillum g. So what did DeVante end
Speaker 1: up with? He end up with one thousand even forty four?
Speaker 1: Man man, you know demn forty four, Davante said, Man,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to have that with ten games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, easily, yessy.
Speaker 1: Even his first year there after he signed that big contract.
Speaker 1: Now we know what he did with Aaron Rodgers. That
Speaker 1: goes what I said. I mean, he was a fourteen
Speaker 1: sixteen touchdown game sixteen. Yeah, yeah, that was he was
Speaker 1: getting out of bed. But that's the difference when you
Speaker 1: get out of bed and you already know get off
Speaker 1: the bus. Oh you, I got twelve targets easy, Now,
Speaker 1: y'all mess around. I get seventeen targets throwing my way,
Speaker 1: but I already know I'm getting off the bus. I
Speaker 1: got twelve target coming my way. I don't give that.
Speaker 1: What y'all do, y'all mess around it? Blow a couple
Speaker 1: of coverages. I got seventeen coming my way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I understand because the wide
Speaker 1: receiver is a dependent position. I don't care how great
Speaker 1: you are now it helps, but if the guy can't
Speaker 1: get you the ball consistently, what are we doing here?
Speaker 5: And then so that takes me right back though, Now
Speaker 5: this takes me right back. Chat y'all stay with me chat.
Speaker 5: This takes me back to the Stefan dig conversation right
Speaker 5: and in the lapses in production throughout a number of games,
Speaker 5: first five weeks, Hundrey yards, Hundy yards, nd yards, ndy yards,
Speaker 5: honey yards.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, the rest of that.
Speaker 4: What do they what do they do offensively? In Buffalo?
Speaker 4: Allowed team to dictate, you know what, we taking fourteen
Speaker 4: out the game. We don't care.
Speaker 5: Y'all gonna have to beat us with Gabe Davis. Y'all
Speaker 5: gonna have to beat us with the running back. Y'all
Speaker 5: gonna have to beat this with the tight end. They
Speaker 5: allow team to dictate whether he can and can't get
Speaker 5: the ball. When Dee Hoppers was using you know what,
Speaker 5: you know what, the Texans said, Hell, hell you don't.
Speaker 4: We don't do a fuck what you do. We're gonna
Speaker 4: find ways to move around and make sure because he
Speaker 4: is our best offensive weapon and we're gonna to utilize
Speaker 4: him in every way we can.
Speaker 5: Why can't they do that in Buffalo? Because then when
Speaker 5: you don't, then we have conversations like this. Then you
Speaker 5: have Diggs upset frustrated on the sideline because we come
Speaker 5: and have conversations like this in the offseason and think
Speaker 5: that he's falling off or he's not in the top.
Speaker 4: Five when some of the things are out of his control. True, true,
Speaker 4: I mean, but he played. Damn. I like this conversation.
Speaker 3: Shit, Okay, I'll poll right now. Best receiving in the
Speaker 3: league right now.
Speaker 1: Got fifty six percent, Justin Jefferson got twenty three percent,
Speaker 1: Davonte got eighteen percent, Stefan Digg got three percent.
Speaker 4: Right, how you left off? Yeah, how you left off? Tight?
Speaker 4: But listen, we only got This is the thing. This
Speaker 4: is the thing when it comes to football fans.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not gonna say the casual fan, because I'm
Speaker 5: sure everybody in his chat is really a football fan
Speaker 5: and been watching the game for years. But anytime something
Speaker 5: new comes along, anytime something new comes along, new, pretty
Speaker 5: little shiny toy. Oh it's my favorite. Now, Oh, that's
Speaker 5: my favorite. But I never forget, and I would never
Speaker 5: feel I will never forget again. You told me not
Speaker 5: to lean on this because you have to update your resume.
Speaker 5: I would never forget the bite that broken with some
Speaker 5: of these individuals that are a little bit older have
Speaker 5: done in the NFL, which is why I always named
Speaker 5: Keenan Stefan things and Davonte first, and then I talk
Speaker 5: about the young bulls that's cutting up now. And then
Speaker 5: when I speak on Tyreek, Tyreek is in his own
Speaker 5: fucking class. You know, you've heard me say it before.
Speaker 5: He's a fucking alien. He's not human. He's in his
Speaker 5: own class and gonna continue to break records. He's gonna
Speaker 5: continue to break records as long as he's with the Dolphins.
Speaker 5: And he had two ads his quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I would just remember what do you call it?
Speaker 1: You remember, uh that Davante had fifty yards.
Speaker 3: With Derek Carr?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we see and let Car walk like, what
Speaker 4: are we doing? Well?
Speaker 1: You don't love somebody, you know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody really embraced Car. I mean you look at a
Speaker 1: John Gruden. He was constantly yelling and snarling at him.
Speaker 1: And you know Mike Josh McDaniels, he coaches hard because
Speaker 1: he thinks everybody's paid man, and you can coach everybody
Speaker 1: does coaching.
Speaker 3: Understand it evolved.
Speaker 1: It requires you to evolve the way you coach each
Speaker 1: individual player. You can't blanket statement yell at everybody. Some guys,
Speaker 1: you got to give a pep talk. Some guys you
Speaker 1: can yell at. Some guys you gotta be funny with,
Speaker 1: facetious with. I mean, that's that's the part of coaching.
Speaker 1: But everybody just won. Well, I if I coach Tom
Speaker 1: Brady like this, because he's not Tom Brady, everybody is
Speaker 1: not wired the same, but everybody want and they kick
Speaker 1: the same everybody I coach everybody same.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I mean that's that's what makes some of
Speaker 5: the greatest coaches that are in the NFL. Understanding your player,
Speaker 5: being self aware on how to coach each player. And
Speaker 5: you can't coach him all the same. You can't talk
Speaker 5: to him all the same. Some players you say, certain ship,
Speaker 5: they cut your ass up. Goddamn man. Yeah, So, I
Speaker 5: mean it's a it's a listen. As a coach is
Speaker 5: all about being self aware of understanding who you can.
Speaker 5: But you can talk to like that and you say
Speaker 5: the wrong things. Sometimes they shut down. You say the
Speaker 5: right thing sometime to give us motivation.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you treat them all fair, you don't
Speaker 1: treat them all the same. Yeah, yeah, and you won't
Speaker 1: running the problem. But uh, it's some I mean, look,
Speaker 1: this this the era, this the Golden era. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: the league is different now, but it's the golden era
Speaker 1: of the receiver and the quarterbacks most definitely.
Speaker 4: Uh man, that was good ship.
Speaker 1: Hey, whatever happened to your boy Chase Claypool. You remember
Speaker 1: you say he was gonna be different when you.
Speaker 5: Were Probably by fucking love Chase. I fucking love Chase.
Speaker 5: Chase remind me like a brand of Chase Lounge.
Speaker 4: Huh, Chase Lounge. No, I'm talk about Chase Claypool from
Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: But listen, it's all it's all about opportunities, getting the
Speaker 5: opportunity to be able to showcase what you can do.
Speaker 4: You know, the situation has been unfortunate. It was unfortunate
Speaker 4: obviously with the Bears. It was unfortunate with the Steelers.
Speaker 5: Down in Miami. Listen, you know what they got to
Speaker 5: the Miami. They they ain't got no slouches. Now, they
Speaker 5: ain't got no slopers. So he has to find a
Speaker 5: way to fit in when he gets his opportunities to
Speaker 5: make the most of them. He's still he's there, right,
Speaker 5: He's still there.
Speaker 4: Right, I guess.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, Oh Joe, you listen when
Speaker 1: I when when you start out, especially like you're starting out.
Speaker 1: You're not a high draft pick right now, You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get those opportunities. But when the opportunities come, you
Speaker 1: got to can You got to catch you. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta make it because you the odd man out already
Speaker 1: to get with it.
Speaker 4: Like with them.
Speaker 1: He dropped that with Hey, let's go back to Tyreek.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the wattle. Let's go back to
Speaker 1: the other guys. Now, you really ain't gonna be your
Speaker 1: You out there just getting cardio in, you out there
Speaker 1: just just running, practicing on your rock running.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna get you no rocks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, it all started practice. It
Speaker 4: all started in practice. I'm not sure. I'm sure people
Speaker 4: are gonna see this.
Speaker 5: NFL players be watching the show because they be hitting
Speaker 5: the line talking to me, I want to get more time.
Speaker 4: I can do this, I can do that. You know
Speaker 4: where it started? Starting practice?
Speaker 5: It started practice and cutting a fool in practicing, always
Speaker 5: being open twenty four seven. The iron in the sky
Speaker 5: gonna lie because when coaches watched film and they see
Speaker 5: you on film, well, hell, this is somebody who can
Speaker 5: count on your number one quarterback scenes Listen we need
Speaker 5: to find a way to get him the rock because
Speaker 5: I can count him in certain situations.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I like this ship. We can
Speaker 4: talk about this the next two hours. Uh. Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen had a very blood explanation for why the
Speaker 1: Chargers eventually traded him to the Bears.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what Keenan had to say.
Speaker 3: Here's the sound.
Speaker 6: When the team asks you to restructure you after you've
Speaker 6: been with them for so long, what are the emotions
Speaker 6: they go through your head? And do you need to
Speaker 6: push them out and let them make a business decisions
Speaker 6: or yeah?
Speaker 4: It really there was no emotion. It was I'm not
Speaker 4: doing it. I'm not doing it. It came off my
Speaker 4: best season.
Speaker 1: So it's not happening.
Speaker 5: Short and sweet. I ain't need to say nothing else, man,
Speaker 5: stop trying me. Don't play with my top. You mean
Speaker 5: you want me to take a pay cut and I
Speaker 5: just had my best season?
Speaker 4: Bad season for who? No, I don't do that.
Speaker 5: They always talk about loyalty, Ah, I mean, child, Please, Hey, Kenny,
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna see this, but I'm I'm staying
Speaker 5: with you too, boy.
Speaker 4: You the you, the best boy. You're one of the
Speaker 4: best runners they ever God damn laced them up.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: But you ever seen keenan Eller run raps? Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure. Absolutely. We talk about somebody can put them
Speaker 4: up and put him down. Huh, he'll take it left
Speaker 4: and bring you back right. Well, that's the fun.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: When they say loyalty, tell them I'm the most loyal
Speaker 1: person money could buy.
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking about. Listen, listen, you
Speaker 4: know you know my favorite phrase.
Speaker 5: Loyalty is nothing but a word in the dictionary between
Speaker 5: opportunity and convenience.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's it, That's all it is.
Speaker 5: And I know were on the football topic, fellas, ladies
Speaker 5: that go for y'all t Fellas understand, women are always
Speaker 5: screaming that loyal or I'm so loyal.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: As long as as the opportunity and the opportunity is convenient.
Speaker 5: Who the fuck ain't gonna be loyal? But anyway, back
Speaker 5: to goddamn football, Hey, San Diego San Diego Chargers, LA Chargers,
Speaker 5: don't ever try that like that.
Speaker 4: You already lost Mike Williams. You lost Mike.
Speaker 5: Letting go now you're telling your best route runner. They
Speaker 5: just had his best season statistically. To take a goddamn
Speaker 5: pay cut shouldn't be all right, Jim Harvall, Wait is
Speaker 5: it Jim?
Speaker 4: Jim Jonathan Baltimore.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Jim, Jim, don't don't play with my dog
Speaker 5: like that. Shoot, that was Jim's call too. Jim run
Speaker 5: the show, sure, yeah, Jim, run the show.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: A lot of them guys had to take pay cuts.
Speaker 1: I think Khalil Mack had to take a pay cut
Speaker 1: to stay. I think Joey Bolts they had to take
Speaker 1: a pay cut to stay.
Speaker 4: And they said, yeah they did. Hey, you know what
Speaker 4: I think they did. They think they slicked. They probably
Speaker 4: ain't taking no pay cut, you know they did.
Speaker 5: They took some of the money on the back end
Speaker 5: and push it up forward them put into a signing bonus.
Speaker 4: So he probably ain't really restructure nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, don't worry about it. As the forty nine
Speaker 1: of my tinger with the books and don't have the thing,
Speaker 1: don't have it right, you lose draft picks. You better
Speaker 1: have because when the NFL come in there Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: had one hundred and fifty targets. He had one hundred
Speaker 1: and eight catches, twelve hundred and forty three yards, seven touchdowns,
Speaker 1: So this was one of his best seasons. He had
Speaker 1: a career high in catches, the second most receiving yards
Speaker 1: of his career, and the second most touchdowns of his career.
Speaker 1: So when he says statistically he had his best season
Speaker 1: with the exception of yards and touchdowns, he did he
Speaker 1: had the most catches of his career, the second most yards,
Speaker 1: second most touchdowns. So I can understand why him not
Speaker 1: wanting to take a pay cut, because I can see,
Speaker 1: you know what if I play, if I you know,
Speaker 1: caught seventy balls. Okay, you know what I'm playing, making
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen mils, I can see that. I doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I have to, but I have to weigh the landscape, ojo.
Speaker 1: If I take a pa cup from what the given,
Speaker 1: if they say, okay, fourteen to the little speet for
Speaker 1: our blood, we can do somewhere around ten. We're given
Speaker 1: an opportunity to make make it around eleven, make it
Speaker 1: around twelve, but we need to knock some money off.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 3: Now I got to weigh the landscape. Is there's somewhere
Speaker 3: else I can go.
Speaker 4: To get this right. Yeah, well he found it.
Speaker 5: Shit, he found If you know what I would do,
Speaker 5: I wish for God if Chicago Bears, anybody in the
Speaker 5: Bears organization, if you see this, I'd pay money when
Speaker 5: it come to training camp. I paid money to see
Speaker 5: the one on ones with Jayalen Johnson and Keithan Allen.
Speaker 4: I pay money for that. Man. You remember remember the
Speaker 4: and one mixtapes? Yeah, there are two people.
Speaker 5: Is it Hot Sauce, the one that had the crossover Sauce.
Speaker 5: There are two receivers in the history of the NFL
Speaker 5: that run their routes and get off the line like
Speaker 5: they playing basketball, Stevie Johnson, mm hmm. And I ain't
Speaker 5: never seen nobody else do it like that. Now, they
Speaker 5: the exact same movement like they're doing a crossover and
Speaker 5: will rout your ass up and still go and still
Speaker 5: get open it within the time and of the offense.
Speaker 4: That ship is a sight to see.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but when you you definitely you put
Speaker 3: Keenan in that slot.
Speaker 1: He gotta he gotta, he got a two way go
Speaker 1: cause you know, you know you're gonna start you on
Speaker 1: that drive back down and come back or you're gonna
Speaker 1: whip you.
Speaker 3: He's gonna start out, they come back in.
Speaker 4: Well, he go hey, he gonna hop yeah, hit you
Speaker 4: with the heads. Yeah, so nice.
Speaker 1: Congrasts the Keenan back to your uh Davante and people say, well,
Speaker 1: Davante left a Hall of Fame quarterback and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He looked at Jeorde Love. Look what
Speaker 1: Jordan Love became. But you do understand he's making twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty eight million dollars a year. It's seven million
Speaker 1: now in Green Bay. I don't know what the state
Speaker 1: tax is that state tax in Wisconsin because now there
Speaker 1: ain't no state taxes in Vegas.
Speaker 3: So that's six to twelve percent, So that's somewhere.
Speaker 1: Now he's putting in a pocket in two and a
Speaker 1: half million, three billion dollars in his pocket that would
Speaker 1: have been going to the state for taxes.
Speaker 3: So over the life of that contract, he gonna hold
Speaker 3: on the fifteen million.
Speaker 4: I like that. I like it too.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about getting up out of here. I'm at
Speaker 1: the back. I'm packing my bags as we speak. As
Speaker 1: you give me the evil life, Wen, you can move.
Speaker 1: You're in a movie just you talking about you just
Speaker 1: going to Vegas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna get a out of here. Fourteen
Speaker 1: percent state taxes, I got that.
Speaker 5: Hey wait, wait, if you worry, if you worry about
Speaker 5: not paying state tax, you might have come down.
Speaker 4: Here to Florida.
Speaker 3: Nah, I ain't gonna come out of Florida.
Speaker 4: Why would you go to Vegas? And when you can
Speaker 4: come to Miami? When when I need to be closed
Speaker 4: to Cali? Well, what's the cat? Oh? You got Oh?
Speaker 4: I know what you mean. You got something in Cali?
Speaker 1: Huh No, but you do realize like flood Shasha and
Speaker 1: shooting Gas, it's easy for me to just jump on
Speaker 1: the plane and get thirty five minute flight.
Speaker 4: Okay, my bad, I thought you was told about a woman.
Speaker 4: My bad, bad, sar, Hey, listen, I know it's somebody,
Speaker 4: because I bet you've been and you've been blessed. He
Speaker 4: in the seven percent break.
Speaker 1: He in the seven percent backe, so ten percent of
Speaker 1: been two point would have been two point seven. You're
Speaker 1: making twenty seven million. He is seven percent, so he's
Speaker 1: probably pocketed.
Speaker 4: Two or seven.
Speaker 3: So seven five half of that is one point three
Speaker 3: five plus two, So.
Speaker 1: He's probably pocketing one point five million, one point seven million.
Speaker 1: You can live with that. I mean, just think about that.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna cut you at you So that's basically at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Oh your this hair, here's
Speaker 1: an extra one point seven million to what you made.
Speaker 1: See when you put it like that, you're like, damn yeah.
Speaker 4: Like when you put it like that, everything come full
Speaker 4: circle and it makes sense. It makes sense. Matter fact. Hey,
Speaker 4: you're up and down with like about with that thing on?
Speaker 4: Ye with what boy? Seven? Now you're talking now, now
Speaker 4: you're talking. Hey, anybody in the trop you know what
Speaker 4: tru mhmm. Hey, Hey where Jayleen Johnson from? You know
Speaker 4: where Jayden Johnson from?
Speaker 1: Chat?
Speaker 4: Anybody know where Jayden Johnson from? I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, check y'all, y'all send Jayen Johnson a message
Speaker 5: for me on on on Twitter. Tell him when when
Speaker 5: he ready to get some work in hum, I'm assure
Speaker 5: him how to earn that paycheck before the season even start.
Speaker 4: I mean, if he even cover me, Joe. But here
Speaker 4: is the thing, this is, this is why, this is
Speaker 4: where I like him.
Speaker 5: That's my little my little nephew too. Oh Johnson, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's adult looks yeah, little jaylen Ship.
Speaker 4: I raised him. I raised him. I used to babysitting by.
Speaker 4: I used to baby city. What damn you should know
Speaker 4: where from then? No, I did. He moved. He just
Speaker 4: got paid. You know. He ain't in the same place
Speaker 4: no more. Oh okay, my bad.
Speaker 1: Uh. The problem that I have with teams O yo,
Speaker 1: that when I want to come in and redegotiate my deal,
Speaker 1: you say, well, you signed the contract. But when they
Speaker 1: go on to tell me to make a pay cut,
Speaker 1: when they when they when they want me to take
Speaker 1: a pay cut or reach or release me structure, I
Speaker 1: ain't signed no contract. Well, damn my name on that
Speaker 1: contract that you said. I couldn't renegotiate up but you can, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my That's my only thing. I ain't never
Speaker 1: held out for no more money. Well, I mean when
Speaker 1: I held out in ninety two, I didn't have a
Speaker 1: contract and they offered me. I mean I was making
Speaker 1: I went made from sixty I mean seventy four. They
Speaker 1: offered me one twenty five. I was like, damn, that's
Speaker 1: still that's like fifty plus thousand more than what I made.
Speaker 1: He was like, nah, we can get more with the
Speaker 1: two hundred and nah, we can get more. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, damn two hundred thousand. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like nah.
Speaker 1: Then with the two twenty five, it's like, hey, I
Speaker 1: think we can squeeze another I think we could squeeze
Speaker 1: another fifty to seventy five.
Speaker 4: I said, lady for you. Man showed up.
Speaker 3: Hey, I showed up to camp with no with no contract.
Speaker 4: You showed up anyway.
Speaker 1: I showed up anyway. Man, Hey, I hat man, I
Speaker 1: got Hey, I need that money. Yeah, I hadn't got
Speaker 1: that call. I had I had one on the way.
Speaker 4: What you talking? You ain't got time to play that? No,
Speaker 4: not when you get that phone call, you ship Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Kenny Piggy says he's confident in the way he handled
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson situation.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what Kenny had to say.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the communication, you know, is what it is.
Speaker 7: It was behind closed doors, you know. I'm I'm confident
Speaker 7: in the way that I handled it. I handled it
Speaker 7: the way I should have handled it.
Speaker 4: You know. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 7: It worked out so well that Philly was the place
Speaker 7: I had in atlant again, So I think everything happens
Speaker 7: for a reason, and you know I was supposed.
Speaker 3: To be okay, Oh Joe, what do you think about
Speaker 3: that situation?
Speaker 4: I mean, for me, if I was a quarterback, I
Speaker 4: like I like Kenny Pickett. I like Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 5: I had an opportunity to meet him at a mad
Speaker 5: event I was doing where all the rookies were getting
Speaker 5: their getting their rookie ratings, and he was cool as
Speaker 5: hell man, cool as head.
Speaker 3: Too high whatever you gave it was too high.
Speaker 4: Nah, listen, I ain't finish disrestractments to picket like that.
Speaker 4: But you know, I.
Speaker 5: Hate that things didn't work out. I hate that things
Speaker 5: didn't work out. But obviously with Big Ben leaving, and
Speaker 5: you already know, those are big shoes to field as
Speaker 5: far as consistency is concerned. The swer Bowl winning quarterback,
Speaker 5: and if you're drafting someone as a successor the goddamn
Speaker 5: Big Ben, you're expecting him to pick up with Big
Speaker 5: Ben left off. And it just didn't pan out the
Speaker 5: way it should have, especially from an offensive perspective. The
Speaker 5: identity went from it being their offense as it once was,
Speaker 5: where the identity went flipped back to the defense and
Speaker 5: until they get the quarterback situation figured out, the Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: Citis would be back to I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know the word to use. Because their identity
Speaker 5: had been their offense for so long with Le'Veon.
Speaker 4: And and they changed.
Speaker 1: They were no longer a defensive team. They were being
Speaker 1: led team. You know, when they had Ben and ab
Speaker 1: and a lot of those other wide receivers. Uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they had Emmanuel Sanders, they had Martabia's briant,
Speaker 1: they had.
Speaker 3: Mike what was Mike Mike Wallace?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: You see, you could see the transition starting to happen.
Speaker 1: They had become more relied on Ben throwing this football around,
Speaker 1: and the defense is kind of taking a step back
Speaker 1: because a lot of their money was on that side
Speaker 1: of the football. But I think now Mike Tommy wants
Speaker 1: to get back to what they were when they won
Speaker 1: the Super you know, won that Super Bowl. Although they
Speaker 1: had started a transition then right that second thing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first the first being Super Bowl, there were defense,
Speaker 1: they still could get after you.
Speaker 3: But when they went back and lost to Green Bay,
Speaker 3: you had start to see.
Speaker 1: The little shift shift as far as from offense from
Speaker 1: a defense to an offensive base team, and then after
Speaker 1: that it was all offense. Ben was spreading the ball
Speaker 1: around for you know, four thousand and five thousand yards,
Speaker 1: routinely ab leading the league and catchers.
Speaker 3: Up there in yards so we could see where they were.
Speaker 1: But I think they want to get back to running
Speaker 1: the football, playing to their strength, which is their defense.
Speaker 3: You know, you got t J. Watt, You got Hot Smith,
Speaker 3: Uh got Patrick Quinn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Minka Fitzpatrick. You got Joey Porter Junr.
Speaker 1: On one side.
Speaker 4: So I like I like him. I like him. Matter
Speaker 4: of fact, anybody know Jorery Porter Jr. Let him know.
Speaker 4: I want that work with his ass to an offseason.
Speaker 4: Don't run and I'm gonna do it like I used
Speaker 4: to do your daddy. Oh Lord, have mercy. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 4: why I used to fuck Joey Port up? Huh yeah
Speaker 4: I believe? Yeah, no, no bullshit, bright Comet rolled up.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen this. I did. I
Speaker 4: didn't see it, So whatever it is, I'm I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Fans roast Texans new uniforms.
Speaker 1: Houston, Texas showed up their new role uniforms after redit
Speaker 1: leak and Cal McNall confirmed the team's new away look
Speaker 1: after a photo leaked online.
Speaker 4: NFL fans rose to the new.
Speaker 1: Threads how much do players actually care about the uniform aesthetics?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 5: I think players care a little bit, a little bit,
Speaker 5: a little bit because the uniform is uniform.
Speaker 1: Skilled players care a lot. Offensive line don't give a
Speaker 1: damn here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, offer the line they take you care less, but
Speaker 5: they're there if they were. Let me see if I
Speaker 5: think about office the lineen that would care about the uniform.
Speaker 4: I can give you three. Aaron Donald cares about his uniform.
Speaker 4: That's a d live one. Yeah, Trent, Okay, I'm just saying, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: Hey Trent Williams, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Heres about his uniform? And and what's the d tackle
Speaker 5: from from the Patriots be dressing his motherfucking ass off. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he cares about his uniform. You can tell by the
Speaker 5: way they the way they dress, not got off the
Speaker 5: field about on.
Speaker 1: The field, off the field, all them, I mean a
Speaker 1: D with threads down, gotcha. I think that's how you
Speaker 1: said his name.
Speaker 3: He at fashion shows in Paris and the Milan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and them boys don't play but I think the
Speaker 5: stield don't care the most quarterback. I don't think quarterback
Speaker 5: give it damn. But the running backs and the receivers
Speaker 5: are the worse. Yeah, they really care about the uniform.
Speaker 5: So whatever uniform we do have, they will find.
Speaker 4: A way to look the best they can with their
Speaker 4: own swag or drip as we call them.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, I think the quarterback for the most part,
Speaker 1: they built bad anyway, So anything will look terrible.
Speaker 3: Anything gonna look terrible, go look terrible, little dip.
Speaker 4: So idiot is what it is.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but why but but but you know obviously
Speaker 1: the wide receivers and and and and the running backs.
Speaker 4: The dbs, a live dbs really kept Yeah you look good,
Speaker 4: you play good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause you know we used to come out there
Speaker 1: in pregame have our socks rolled down.
Speaker 4: We all, you know, we all we all greezed up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, yeah you need
Speaker 1: to push up. Yeah, yeah, you know yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And so you don't have but everything because back, you know,
Speaker 1: I need my money back because all that money that
Speaker 1: y'all find me in a g Aaron Glenn he and
Speaker 1: I was like every week, hey, a G man, they
Speaker 1: got you.
Speaker 3: Yeah sharp, they got me to five.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A G was Yeah, I'm older than a G. But
Speaker 3: he was in the league when I played.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, AG covered me when he when he was
Speaker 5: with the Jets or with Houston. I think maybe either
Speaker 5: with Houston went against a G a few times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so, uh, you know any time, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: they tackled, they expect me like, oh man, I socked down,
Speaker 1: pulled my sock up. Man, stop, I played a football game.
Speaker 1: You're going to be brushing dirt off me and pulling
Speaker 1: those socks.
Speaker 4: You know the NFL find you for that. You know that,
Speaker 4: right your Oh so you know they got oh yeah,
Speaker 4: they got me like that multiple time. Remember remember when
Speaker 4: I played nine, Remember we had to have black and
Speaker 4: white shoes. Face, shoe had to be black with the
Speaker 4: white lining. He din't go my my retarded.
Speaker 3: Ass, I had arms word just say a little slow.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I was on my bad off. If I
Speaker 5: find anybody in the chat, I apologize, okay. As slow
Speaker 5: as I was, I didn't follow the rules. You know,
Speaker 5: I had on orange cleats, I had on gold cleats,
Speaker 5: the Massim, the Maxima grill at the time.
Speaker 4: I just took the fighting. I ain't even care.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, one of the reasons this is funny,
Speaker 5: you probably on the chat y'all probably don't know about this.
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 5: I had to beginning to find so much to a
Speaker 5: point on when I got to about year six. This
Speaker 5: is how Roger Goodella and I became so close. If
Speaker 5: I knew I was doing something, if I knew I
Speaker 5: was wearing the orange chin strap, I knew I was
Speaker 5: a black chint strap as you as you can see
Speaker 5: some of the people time I would send the fine
Speaker 5: money in, I would beat the NFL to the punch
Speaker 5: before they get send the fine, before they get send
Speaker 5: that fine letter on Monday, the check had already been
Speaker 5: sent out throughout the week. Yeah, I had already paid
Speaker 5: the fine, so it was no need to take it
Speaker 5: out my check. And I think that pissed them off
Speaker 5: so much that I would pay the fine ahead of
Speaker 5: time because I knew, listen, I'm gonna do something. I
Speaker 5: don't know what to do, but I'm gonna send you
Speaker 5: this money a little early, yes case, so you don't
Speaker 5: have to waste your time sending no FedEx to Paul
Speaker 5: Brown Stadium.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had my last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Well, you can only have two colors, so you could
Speaker 1: you can have like I could have purple and black,
Speaker 1: or I could have orange and blue, but that means
Speaker 1: or orange and white.
Speaker 4: So I had you could.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have three colors on your cleats. So I
Speaker 1: had to take the tongue on my cleat because the
Speaker 1: tongue was red. It was an orange when I was
Speaker 1: in Denver, and then it was I think it was
Speaker 1: I think it was like white. But and you couldn't
Speaker 1: have lettering. You couldn't have like that big flake. I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, looking down there and that. But they
Speaker 1: got the uniform police out there that you remember who
Speaker 1: your uniform police was. Hey, David Folcher was my Remember
Speaker 1: David Folch.
Speaker 4: I do no food, plenty food.
Speaker 5: But you know how many you know how many fans
Speaker 5: I got because folks he had the right, he had
Speaker 5: to write it down them and they see me wearing
Speaker 5: a stream of towl, wearing that long ass stream it
Speaker 5: was wearing, yes, and the orange ce so you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes depend on what our uniform was. I changed a
Speaker 5: chin strap after orange.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wearing black.
Speaker 1: They won't let you do that because I remember I
Speaker 1: used to have a blue I used to have a
Speaker 1: blue chest strap, and they're going back to look, my
Speaker 1: helmet is never my helmet.
Speaker 3: Like two of my chest straps, I mean the buck
Speaker 3: snaps are flamming.
Speaker 4: Hey, I always kept the right one loose.
Speaker 3: I kept both of loose.
Speaker 4: Oh man, there was some days, man, David Folter costs
Speaker 4: me a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And no, I didn't wear a mouthpiece.
Speaker 5: Oh hey, listen, I ain't war on mouth piece because
Speaker 5: I can't talk. I can't talk, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: All that.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't had your hand in the dirt.
Speaker 1: You don't snapped somebody upside the head in the ass.
Speaker 1: It could, y'all paimodass. And I'm gonna take the mouth
Speaker 1: piece out of my mouth. I wish I might because
Speaker 1: I got something to say. I need to say it
Speaker 1: right there. I ain't got time to take no mouth
Speaker 1: piece out. Sorry, mofolks. All right, sap, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: beat you with the mofolks. I said, well, you that one,
Speaker 1: y'all need you to be another one, but you that one?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. I don't know if they let them
Speaker 3: talk like like we used to talk.
Speaker 4: You think. No, you mean, did anybody talk the way
Speaker 4: we talked back then? Yeah? Oh hell no, oh absolutely not. No.
Speaker 5: We have some we have some entertaining figures. We don't
Speaker 5: have an outgoing personality the way you and I were.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about outgoing leading up to the game, in
Speaker 5: the game, and understand adding the pressure that comes with
Speaker 5: what you say and everybody gunning for you, they trying
Speaker 5: to hurt, they trying to keep they trying to knock
Speaker 5: your head off, but you still go out there and
Speaker 5: produce it.
Speaker 4: At the same time, we don't. We don't like that.
Speaker 5: We have some good some good dudes that are really
Speaker 5: really good at their craft. They just don't have that
Speaker 5: dynamic personality to go with it. Now, if they if
Speaker 5: they would have added that sauce and that personality the game,
Speaker 5: oh my goodness, they won't.
Speaker 4: They won't let you. They won't. They're not. They're not
Speaker 4: gonna let you play like that.
Speaker 5: O yo, man, listen, and during this time in this
Speaker 5: social media area, if you add that dynamic personality to it,
Speaker 5: oh my goodness, boy, it'd be crazy.
Speaker 4: They're not, Oh Joe, they not.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna let you play because back then, you
Speaker 1: know you say, some guys really try to take your
Speaker 1: head off. So everybody, you know what I'm saying. Even
Speaker 1: if you wasn't getting the ball, Oh Joe, you know
Speaker 1: back then, when you.
Speaker 4: Didn't get the ball, you ain't have to get the ball.
Speaker 4: God a buzz by you and let you know, yes,
Speaker 4: and they will let you know yeah yes.
Speaker 1: But nah, they don't. They done took the intimidation to
Speaker 1: talking part of it. So I don't really know how
Speaker 1: much they talk anymore. But it's they It's a different game.
Speaker 1: But the guys are playing at the extremely high level.
Speaker 1: I still love watching them play. I don't care what
Speaker 1: if they hit or not hit.
Speaker 4: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: So you gotta play with the rules that that that
Speaker 1: governs you at the time in which you play. So
Speaker 1: we had the rules that we had. I'm sure the
Speaker 1: people in the seventies say, man, y'all don't even play
Speaker 1: football no more. And then people in the fifties and
Speaker 1: sixty said the same thing about the guys in the
Speaker 1: seventies in the eighties, and the guys in the age
Speaker 1: of the ninety said the same thing about the guys
Speaker 1: that are two thousand men beyond.
Speaker 4: So it is what it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the game is changing, and you know it's funny.
Speaker 5: You know the fact that you know, I work out
Speaker 5: inside the NFL. So when you speak about the talking,
Speaker 5: they still talk. They do because I can get to
Speaker 5: hear all the wired up stuff. Okay, yeah he said
Speaker 5: it ain't the same though, they do talk.
Speaker 4: They got Damn Met Crosby.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I met him, I mad him.
Speaker 1: I met him at the Bowl, I made him at
Speaker 1: the Super.
Speaker 4: Bowl this year. I like him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him a lot. Yeah, I like him
Speaker 1: a lot. Can kind of remind I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you played against him, Jared Allen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he reminded me a lot of him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, damn Max Crosby.
Speaker 5: Just it's just it's Patrick m Patrick, Patrick Quin, Oh
Speaker 5: my god, Patrick Queen, keep saying McQueen, Patrick Queen.
Speaker 3: Steve McQueen, Alexander.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's why.
Speaker 1: Yeah he talked Rohan rochron Smith Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yea yeah, yeah, hey.
Speaker 4: Oh man, they wired up.
Speaker 5: I'm somebody. It's funny. There's some of the other players
Speaker 5: that always wired up. It's always that that politically correct
Speaker 5: talk because they know they miked.
Speaker 3: Up ain't you know what you don't say? Yeah, that
Speaker 3: way it miked up. We move forwarded s O B
Speaker 3: in the whole.
Speaker 4: Wow, so we got because we don't want to beleet
Speaker 4: every delete. Please listen, Oh man, it might have miked up.
Speaker 4: There was so fun.
Speaker 5: Man, I'm out there talking about everything. It ain't got
Speaker 5: nothing to do with football. I'm talking about how your
Speaker 5: mama man had her family, everything good, h staying in
Speaker 5: some good memory