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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: And we're back in Matt. It's time for the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Football Focus here. We'll do that at the top of

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Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour in these shows. And I wanted

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Speaker 2: to take a look today at fantasypros dot Com has

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Speaker 2: looked at the best ball risers and followers since August first, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so look, it's gonna change a lot. Yeah, and these

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Speaker 2: are updated today, so these are very much up to date.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields was going at forty nine point two is

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Speaker 2: QB six. Now he's QB five at forty four point four.

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Speaker 3: I totally get that. And I bet a lot of

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Speaker 3: that is Burrow related. Yeah, Like I'm bumping Burrow down.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's behind Herbert to me, Fields, a couple

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Speaker 3: of those guys, so I think that's warranted.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson was going at one oh four point nine

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Speaker 2: is QB twelve. He's now going at QB eleven. At

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Speaker 2: one hundred point four is.

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Speaker 3: Either my ten or ninth. I was fighting between him

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Speaker 3: and Watson behind Lawrence and I went with Richardson over Watson.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I want any to do with Watson

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Speaker 3: this year. Gino Smith is bumped up from QB. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: from QB fifteen to QB fourteen. Derek Carr has gone

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Speaker 3: from QB twenty to QB nineteen. Okay, Car's done well.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love has gone from QB twenty two. He went

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Speaker 2: from one sixty four point three as his ADP. Now

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Speaker 2: it's going at one fifty six point one. He is

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Speaker 2: QB twenty.

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Speaker 3: I think that's warranted for him. Gino, this is a

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Speaker 3: Steelers I have, like Goff and Gino sixteen seventeen, my

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Speaker 3: biggest riser can pick it. Yeah, I'm surprised he's done

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Speaker 3: on this list actually nineteen for me where I started

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Speaker 3: him like at twenty five and I think I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: there thinking do I want golf? Gino or Kenny? One runs,

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Speaker 3: one runs, the other two don't yea right? And then

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Speaker 3: the final one on there. Sam Howe has gone from

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Speaker 3: QB twenty seven to QB twenty six. He's just been

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Speaker 3: a short yeah. Now he's a starter. He's been a

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Speaker 3: running though he doesn't rush for over eight hundred yards

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Speaker 3: in North Carolina I don't know that they want him,

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Speaker 3: I design necessarily, but yeah, the Follers, and there's some

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Speaker 3: big names on here.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrows. You mentioned he's gone from QB five to

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Speaker 2: QB six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't done at seven.

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott has gone from QB eleven to QB twelve.

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Speaker 3: I have him at twelve or at eleven, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure who they'd bump over him, maybe Richardson.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has gone from QB fourteen to QB fifteen.

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Speaker 3: See, I've been moving him up. I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: particularly good, but his weapons are better. They peppered Waller

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Speaker 3: this past week, which I liked. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 3: he'll still run a lot.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray understandably's gone from QB nineteen to QB twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Seems less like. I have heard no news about when

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Speaker 3: he's going to come back. No, I've heard a lot

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Speaker 3: of positive reports that he's helping out, he's a good citizen,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Right, that doesn't matter, right.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford goes from QB twenty one to QB twenty two.

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Speaker 2: He drops basically eight spots in ADP really, which is huge.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge drop. Bryce Young goes from QB twenty five.

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Speaker 2: He stays at QB twenty five, but his ADP dropped

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Speaker 2: from one seventy eight point six to one eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: That's a full round. I'd much rather have Love or

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Speaker 3: Picket than Young. Yeah, Young looks overmatch.

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Speaker 2: And then CJ. Stroud is even worse. He goes from

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Speaker 2: QB twenty six to QB twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: I think I take Stroud over Young. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the running back position, and Tony Pollard goes

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Speaker 2: from RB seven to RB six.

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Speaker 3: He's my six too. Look on my list, just put

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Speaker 3: him over Jonathan Taylor. Derrick Henry goes from RB eight

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Speaker 3: to RB seven. I'm not moving him up.

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Speaker 2: I think it's those are because of the Jonathan Taylor stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like where you are drafting Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: At this point? He should be a dropper. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs goes from RB twelve to RB ten. I

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Speaker 2: assume he jumps over Jacobs too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have not ding Jacobs though, I still have

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Speaker 3: Jacobs sitting there at eight, but it's getting close to

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Speaker 3: time to drop them. Damian Pierce goes from RB twenty

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Speaker 2: RB nineteen fifteen. I think he's yeah. I mean he

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Speaker 3: But he was really productive last year and is better

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Speaker 2: Javonte Williams goes from RB twenty seven to RB twenty three,

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Speaker 2: and that's a big move because that puts him now

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Speaker 3: I have not adjusted for him yet. I will, I

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Speaker 3: will want to get there. I don't have to fight yet,

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Speaker 3: you know, like I don't want a piece of that.

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Speaker 3: But boy, I adored him before he got hurt. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara goes from twenty nine to twenty eight. Now

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Speaker 3: we know, we know, yeah, and we thought we feared

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Speaker 3: it could be six. Now it's only three. Okay, big

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Speaker 3: mover here. James Cook, his ADP had been ninety two

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Speaker 3: seventy eight point eight is RB twenty five. I have

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Speaker 3: him at twenty three, and I'm afraid that's too high. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's with like Acres and swift.

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Speaker 2: I think I think like it twenty five makes him

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Speaker 2: the top RB three on the board.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair, a great flex. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: that type of dude. So real quick on him because

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Speaker 3: I studied the Steeler Bill s napcount. They treated him

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Speaker 3: just like the Steelers. They wouldnaug you. As soon as

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Speaker 3: Alan came out of the game, he came done, you know.

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Speaker 3: But Damien Harris hasn't played because of a small injury.

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Speaker 3: And how many touchdowns? Is cook and score catch a

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Speaker 2: Herbert and he saw a big jump here. He goes

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Speaker 2: from an ADP of one to eighteen point one, which

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Speaker 2: is RB forty up to ninety nine, which is RB

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Speaker 3: That's nice. I have n't thirty two. He's clearly the one. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: he's their best back. Devin and Chain basically stayed the same.

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Speaker 3: He's hurt now though that's did you see that his shoulder?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't as bad as originally feared. But yeah, this

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Speaker 3: got thrown to the ground, He's going to get thrown

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Speaker 3: to the ground A lot in the NFL. I'm not

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Speaker 3: even sure I have him ranked in my top down.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I want anything to do with him. No,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get six touches a game, and two of

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Speaker 2: Jim Maul Williams goes from RB forty three to RB

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Speaker 3: The Kamara news. Yeah, but Kendre Miller played last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Jalen Warren goes from RB forty four to

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Speaker 3: He should go up. Yeah, yeah, he's probably taking But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby goes from RB forty five to RB forty two.

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Speaker 3: Thirty four. For me, that's what I got. Man Et

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Speaker 3: m is a dropper for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Gamewell goes from RB fifty two to RB forty seven.

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Speaker 2: He moved up twenty spots in ADP. Twenty spots is huge.

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Speaker 3: He's a massive amount. It's almost two rounds. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of talk that he could be the one. I

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Speaker 3: don't think I want any of those guys, but I

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Speaker 3: get it. Another guy getting a big bump is Raheem

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Speaker 3: Moster in Miami. He goes from ADP of one sixty

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Speaker 3: seven point three up to one fifty. He goes from

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Speaker 3: RB fifty three to RB forty eight. I guess he's

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Speaker 3: the one, right, Yeah, I mean, and they should run

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Speaker 3: the ball pretty well. I mean I've probably been out

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Speaker 3: of sight, out of mind on him. But he start

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Speaker 3: him in week like you start him in week one,

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Speaker 3: right if you had him? I guess yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: if I don't want to, I don't want to. I

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Speaker 3: don't want anything to do without Miami backfield. Now that's

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Speaker 3: a lower my list group. Yeah. Ezekiel Elliott comes in

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Speaker 3: at RB forty nine after joining the Patriots. He's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be on my team. No, no running back fallers.

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Speaker 3: I actually hope Stevenson falls a little because of the

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Speaker 3: Elliott signing. Yeah, because I'll jump on that. Well, we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about that right here. So Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 3: goes from nineteen point nine to adp at RB six

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Speaker 3: down to twenty five point five at RB eight. Are

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Speaker 3: you still biting at RB eight? Is your number one

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Speaker 3: back for a guy who's doesn't look like he's gonna

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Speaker 3: play any preseason games here? Yeah, I don't think it will.

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Speaker 3: The owner came out and it sounds like maybe they're

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Speaker 3: getting chummy again. Who knows.

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Speaker 2: So this is gonna happen soon enough before your draft

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Speaker 2: to be able to play down that chip.

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Speaker 3: So this area has me play like. I got Taylor

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Speaker 3: at seven, Jacob's at eight, Mandre at nine, Henry at ten.

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Speaker 3: I might move from Ramandre up to seven. Well, he's

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Speaker 3: at RB nine. He was at RB nine on August first,

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Speaker 3: with Ay ADP at twenty seven point five. Now it's

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Speaker 3: thirty four point four. He's RB eleven on their list.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a bad neighborhood to go shopping for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough, Taylor, Jacob. And if you do that,

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Speaker 2: you better grab another guy quickly, Pierce or somebody like that. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: somebody who knows is going to get the ball. Breece Hall,

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Speaker 2: we talked a lot about this. He went from ADP

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Speaker 2: of thirty four point three in RB eleven. He's now

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Speaker 2: at forty two point one in RB fourteen. I still

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Speaker 2: wouldn't touch it. He's twenty one for me. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: like Miles Sanders. I can't I can't touch him.

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Speaker 3: It's in land for me. JK. Dobbins, who still have

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Speaker 3: told us like one hundred different ways that they don't

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Speaker 3: trust him right now? Yeah right, I mean they drafted

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Speaker 3: a guy, they signed a guy. You know, he's really

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Speaker 3: good and as healthy. But I want to next year. JK.

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Speaker 2: Dobbins goes from sixty two ADP RB nineteen down to

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Speaker 2: sixty seven and RB twenty.

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Speaker 3: My nuts for keep moving him up. I think he's

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Speaker 3: in a really good situation two years removed from injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he keeps moving up because a lot of guys keep moving.

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Speaker 2: Like to see him actually play football, though, maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: we'll tonight, we'll see. Miles Sanders goes from RB twenty

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Speaker 2: to RB twenty one. I don't know what happened there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's just a regular adjustment line. Looks like crap. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: cam Aker is the same thing. RB twenty one down

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Speaker 2: to RB twenty two. Rashad White goes from RB twenty

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Speaker 2: six all the way down to RB twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: That's about where I have. Yeah, their offensive line stinks

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Speaker 3: too bad, right, Like I have him right next to

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Speaker 3: James Connor. Isaiah Pacheco goes from RB twenty eight to

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Speaker 3: RB thirty. I don't he doesn't intrigue me much either. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm way lower and he's only just thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Samajp rhyme because of the news with Javonte Williams goes

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Speaker 2: from RB thirty six to RB thirty nine.

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Speaker 3: I have him in a holding pattern too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Damian Harris, so you just talked about his ADP was

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Speaker 2: one seventeen, he was RB thirty nine. He's now RB

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Speaker 2: forty four, one thirty two points.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other guy is getting buzz, is getting

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Speaker 2: the buzz. Kendre Miller goes from one forty seven point

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Speaker 2: seven with RB forty seven. He falls twenty spots in

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Speaker 3: He could be good in the second half of the

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Speaker 2: Devin Singletary another faller from forty nine to fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Not for me.

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Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman falls from RB fifty to RB fifty three.

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Speaker 3: I think he's close to undraftable. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jerome Ford has fallen twenty spots from RB fifty one

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Speaker 2: to RB fifty eight. Leonard Fournette still not with a team.

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Speaker 2: You can't draft him. And then Chase Brown is the

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Speaker 2: other one big faller there. Looking at the wide receivers. Here,

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Speaker 2: Tyreek goes from wide receiver four to wide receiver three.

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Speaker 2: I think he's moving past Cooper Cup and Chase too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A mon Ross Saint Brown goes from wide receiver nine

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Speaker 2: to wide receiver eight.

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Speaker 3: See, I love him, but I wish they had somebody else.

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Speaker 3: He's going to get but he is going to get

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Speaker 3: peppered with targets, no question. But is he good enough

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Speaker 3: to be Cooper Cup in terms of the only show

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley goes from an ADP of twenty nine at

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Speaker 2: wide receiver sixteen. He's now going at twenty four point

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Speaker 3: That's why I have him too. I thought i'd be

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Speaker 3: higher than consensus on him. Maybe not DJ Moore with

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Speaker 3: a big rise here. He was going at forty seven

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Speaker 3: and a half as wide receiver twenty six. He's now

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Speaker 3: going at forty point one wide receiver twenty two. I'm

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Speaker 3: at twenty four on him. I think he's split in

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Speaker 2: Mike Williams rises up two spots from wide receiver twenty

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Speaker 3: I've been down that road too many times. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean I have him twenty nine, like I have Deonta

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Speaker 3: and Jigba. He's had a good preseason.

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Speaker 2: Goes from wide receiver thirty two up to wide receiver thirty.

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Speaker 2: He's not a starter, he's forty four. I can't have

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Speaker 3: I have him right like next to like Bateman and

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Speaker 3: Burks and scy Moore and you know the number. He's

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Speaker 3: the number three guy in their offense and they don't

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Speaker 3: want to throw the ball. I mean, I think he's

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Speaker 3: a really good football player, but yeah, it doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: what we're talking about here. Gabe Davis goes from wide

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Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty seven the wide receiver thirty six. I

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Speaker 3: crushed Gave Davis last year, but he was not healthy

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Speaker 3: the whole season. Yeh, so he's in a pretty good spot.

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Speaker 2: George Pickens goes from an ADP of seventy six point

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Speaker 3: I have him thirty six. I mean, would you rather

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Speaker 3: have Pickens or Brandon Cooks or Christian Kirk, Like that's

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Speaker 3: a neighborhood in there with those guys. Yeah, he's moving

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Speaker 2: Zay Flowers moves up from wide receiver forty five to

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Speaker 3: I know it's just one game, but I am really

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Speaker 3: interested to see what they do with their receivers. Who

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Speaker 3: loves good who plays tonight? I'm sure Beckham won't.

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Speaker 2: Sky Moore goes from an ADP of ninety six point

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Speaker 2: two where he was wide receiver forty eight. He's now

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Speaker 2: wide receiver forty four at eighty nine point six. I

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Speaker 2: would rather have Sky more than Zay Flowers or Smith

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Speaker 2: and Jigbu or Smith and Jigban. Yeah, I have him.

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Speaker 2: Both those guys much better offense, and he's much better.

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Speaker 2: Probably the clear number two second year in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Courtland Sutton goes from forty nine to forty five. No,

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Speaker 3: I have him at forty five. Marquez Valdez Gantling goes

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Speaker 3: from sixty seven to sixty three. He's unranked for me.

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Speaker 3: I want nothing to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Marvin ms in Denver goes from wide receiver seventy two

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Speaker 2: to wide receiver sixty four big jump. Patrick Fen some

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Speaker 2: clarity there. Jayden Reid in a big jump in Green

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Speaker 2: Bay makes us from seventy six to seventy two. Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hyatt goes from I don't understand this, goes his ADP

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Speaker 2: of two oh two point three. He's now going at

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Speaker 2: one seventy point three. Goes from wide receiver eighty five

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Speaker 2: to wide receiver seventy four. He's not even starting for them. No,

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Speaker 2: I think he caught a long one or something good

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Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to go through the rest of this.

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Speaker 2: We'll go to the the fallers here at wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup as we mentioned, he falls from wide receiver

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Speaker 2: three to wide receiver four at a site out of mine.

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Speaker 3: I have him at eight. I want ce Lamb and A. J.

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Speaker 3: Brown and those guys even have Yeah, I just don't

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Speaker 3: trust him. Garrett Wilson falling from wide receiver eight to

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Speaker 3: wide receiver nine. Who knows, maybe somebody who went up

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Speaker 3: I don't know in that range. Brown, Yeah, Monrossaint Brown. T.

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Speaker 3: Higgins goes from wide receiver fourteen to wide receiver fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I'm try to have him too, Yeah, Drake London. Wide

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Speaker 3: receiver twenty two falls down to wide receiver twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I've been moving him up. He's twenty for me.

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Speaker 2: McLaurin goes from wide receiver twenty three to wide receiver

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I like him better than consensus too. This one I

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Speaker 3: kind of agree with.

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins goes from wide receiver twenty four down to

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Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty six after he lands in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I have him, I just don't want to throw the

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Speaker 3: football and I don't know if he's good anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I have him at thirty

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Speaker 3: like I have him like Marquise Brown Buccaneers receiver neighborhood. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want any of those guys. Christian Kirk

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Speaker 3: goes from twenty seven to twenty eight, Marquise Brown goes

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Speaker 3: from thirty one to thirty three. That's about where I

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Speaker 3: have all those guys. Yeah, I don't like that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman sees a big drop here after the Anthony

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Speaker 2: Richardson news. He goes from wide receiver thirty five down

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Speaker 2: to wide receiver thirty nine.

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Speaker 3: He's still a crush of mine, and I may pay

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Speaker 3: that I have him twenty eight, like I have him

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Speaker 3: above Hopkins and guys like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trailing Burks takes a hit two with the news

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Speaker 2: of the signing of Hopkins. He goes from wide receiver

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Speaker 2: forty one down to wad receiver forty seven.

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Speaker 3: Supposedly it was great in camp, but then he got hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and Hopkins got signed to.

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Speaker 2: Darius Tony takes a fall from wide receiver forty three,

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Speaker 2: which he was being overdrafted, down the wide receiver forty nine.

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Speaker 3: Understandable. Rashaud Bateman goes from forty six to forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Jamison Williams goes from fifty to fifty one. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you draft him. Yeah, he's undraftable

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Speaker 3: at this point. He set him on your roster for

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Speaker 3: six weeks. Yeah, yeah, and he's hurt now. And he's

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Speaker 3: hurt now find I'm sure by week seven or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But looking at the tight end risers, Darren Waller goes

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Speaker 3: from tight end seven to tight end five. You get

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Speaker 3: him six between Pitts and Goddard. You've been getting Pepper

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Speaker 3: with targets in the preseason, Like, if he can stay healthy,

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Speaker 3: would you take Pitcher Waller. I think Waller. I trust

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Speaker 3: they're gonna throw the football and they're just scheme him

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Speaker 3: up like they're gonna scheme it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Dalton kin k who I thought looked good for Baltimore, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or for Buffalo, should say he got from wide receiver

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Speaker 2: twelve up to wide receiver or tight end eleven.

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Speaker 3: I should say I still have him behind the Joku

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Speaker 3: and my boy Chig. I think they're gonna use him.

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Speaker 3: He might use them. He might end up being a

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Speaker 3: number two receiver this year in terms of reception. I

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Speaker 3: think him and Coke will catch a lot more balls,

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Speaker 3: non digs, targets. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know cole Comet goes from tight end seventeen to

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Speaker 2: tight end fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Someone else can have cole Comette. Yeah. Uh. Sam Laporter

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Speaker 3: goes from nineteen to sixteen. Who's gonna catch passes there?

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Speaker 3: Somebody's got to yeah, right. Juwan Johnson in New Orleans

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Speaker 3: goes from twenty one to twenty. Not a big move there,

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Speaker 3: but significant. Jake Ferguson, Yeah, Jake Ferguson in Dallas goes

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Speaker 3: from tight end twenty eight. He's now up to tight

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Speaker 3: end twenty two, which means he's a. He's a your

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Speaker 3: tight end two on your roster. I mean, could he

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Speaker 3: do a Dulton Schultzer personation? Probably? Who's why not? They're

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Speaker 3: about the same. The thing that helped him a schoonmaker

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Speaker 3: is not going to be in the mix. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh Luke Musgrave goes from twenty nine up to twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Another big jump in Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love missed him on a big play too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Henry goes from thirty one to twenty six, and

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Speaker 2: then zach Ertz goes from thirty six to twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Good for those guys. I don't want to deal

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Speaker 2: The fallers at the tight end position. Kyle Pitts goes

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Speaker 2: from tight end five down to tight end six.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that. Yeah, yeah, Dallas Goddard goes from

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Speaker 3: tight end six to tight end seven. Again, that's that's

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Speaker 3: all are related. Greg Dolcicch goes from tight end to

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Speaker 3: eleven down to tight end fourteen. He's not even running

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Speaker 3: with the one with the ones. Yeah, no, I have

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Speaker 3: him at thirteen. But because the guys behind him I

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Speaker 3: don't really like, like Higbee Schultz Everett. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: was high on ul Chichen. I don't think I want

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Speaker 3: him now.

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Speaker 2: Chig takes a hit. He goes from tight end thirteen

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Speaker 2: down to tight end seventeen. That's a Hopkins related thing.

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Speaker 2: Gerald Everett goes from tight end sixteen to tight end eighteen.

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Speaker 2: They're out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, Taysom Hill

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Speaker 2: goes from tight tight end eighteen to tight end twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that experience. That's just not for me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Irv Smith, well, his ADP fell, but he actually moved

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Speaker 2: up a spot. His ADP was one fifty nine point five,

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Speaker 2: it's now one sixty eight seven point eight. He actually

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Speaker 2: moved up a spot somehow. Dawson Knox takes a big

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Speaker 2: hit with the news on Kincaid gets sick. He takes

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Speaker 2: a hit ten spots. He falls from tight end twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm with with a lot of that as well.

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Speaker 3: But there's some guys on there that are moving and

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Speaker 3: I think there's been a little bit of adjustment on

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Speaker 3: some of those guys, like a sky More moving up. Yeah. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: both the Steelers receivers were very cheap. Now, that was

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Speaker 3: kind of surprised. Deontay Johnson wasn't on the Risers little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this month, people realize, oh wait, he's he's gotten

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty targets in each of the last

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Speaker 2: three seasons. He's going to catch some touchdowns. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: that's why that changed. We're gonna get to another break.

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Speaker 2: some stuff out every once in a while whatever you

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Speaker 2: call X or Twitter whatever whatever the kids are calling.

433
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Speaker 3: It these days. Oh yeah. Every time I look on

434
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Speaker 3: my phone to try to find where's Twitter at and

435
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wait, there it is the X. It

436
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 3: doesn't look the same anymore. Right, Yeah, it's still it's

437
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 3: still Twitter to me. It's always going to be Twitter

438
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Speaker 3: to me. I don't know how I'm not gonna I'm

439
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: gonna x this out. That sounds completely stupid. Anyways. So

440
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Speaker 3: I saw Mike Tannier, who used to work for Football

441
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Speaker 3: Siders and yeah, he joined us at the combine a

442
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Speaker 3: few times.

443
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's now with the Messenger dot com. And he

444
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: tweeted out that during the Steelers games, like, just look,

445
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: the Steelers over under are still eight and a half.

446
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to go out and take out a loan

447
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: on the house here. So he wrote wrote an article

448
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: for the message jer says you forgot about the Steelers,

449
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: didn't you? And he detailed a lot of the stuff

450
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: that made him tweet what he tweeted out there, But

451
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: he along those lines.

452
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: I was listening to the GM Shuffle this morning with

453
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 3: Michael Lobardi. He's like he couldn't say enough good things

454
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: about the Steelers, and he always praises Tom and to

455
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 3: begin with, but he's like, this is going to be

456
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: a really good football team this year. Yeah, and I

457
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: tend to agree. Yeah, I think that's the idea that

458
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: the news is starting on Yeah, and starts starting to

459
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 3: catch on a little bit here. Maybe you should have

460
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Speaker 3: listened to us a couple of months ago. They probably

461
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: should have. But also in this story, he goes through

462
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Speaker 3: and he is is a thing here titled preseason Week two,

463
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Speaker 3: how did the starters look? It's a really good way

464
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Speaker 3: of looking at it. Yeah. I mean, I know it's

465
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Speaker 3: someone's ten snaps, two drives, whatever, but still you can

466
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Speaker 3: judge some things there. There's another thing goes hand in

467
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Speaker 3: hand with this. I like the Pro Football Focus does

468
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Speaker 3: when they do snap counts. They'll do one section with

469
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Speaker 3: how many snaps did you have with the starters with

470
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Speaker 3: the startup QB. You know, it's like, okay, that's good

471
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Speaker 3: to know. In addition to so.

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Speaker 2: Looking here, what Mike says about each team, Uh, for

473
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Speaker 2: the Arizona Carter's Cardinals, I should say he says that

474
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Speaker 2: there their starters looked like backups. He said, wait, those

475
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Speaker 2: were the Cardinals starters. He's just okay, they're they're pretty bad.

476
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Speaker 3: Uh. The Atlanta Falcons, he says, impressive but sloppy. They

477
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: were a little they really drove down the field. Well,

478
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: Bijon looked great, Ritter looked pretty good, but as they

479
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: were going to the end zone he got a ball

480
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: tipped to the line and got picked off. So a

481
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Speaker 3: little unlucky maybe, yeah, sloppy. They had a penalty or

482
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Speaker 3: too too. The Bills frustrating find out bad, I mean

483
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Speaker 3: the penalties and you know, just be livid if I

484
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Speaker 3: was McDermott.

485
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Speaker 2: And again you mentioned Ployer taking just an awful angle

486
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Speaker 2: on the Jayla Warren run.

487
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Speaker 3: And some of the things that were counting on to

488
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Speaker 3: be better. Yeah. You know else played really bad in

489
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Speaker 3: that game is Milana, who's a great player, right? You know,

490
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 3: like their linebackers didn't look good. They had some issues,

491
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Speaker 3: say the least, and those some I mean some of

492
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: those guys are getting up in age, you know, mana employer,

493
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Speaker 3: and those guys hide or they're in the wrong side

494
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Speaker 3: of thirty. Now I keep hearing, I don't know how

495
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Speaker 3: reliable it is that von Miller probably starts on the

496
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Speaker 3: pup list too. Yeah. Not good, not great. Uh. For

497
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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers unready, no, line's just a disaster. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 3: and that was the only thing he could really hang

499
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Speaker 3: the hat on on the offense. Uh. For the Denver

500
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Speaker 3: Broncos slightly better than last week. Okay, I mean that's

501
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Speaker 3: going to be turning a freight train around. I mean,

502
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Speaker 3: I mean that's not going to happen overnight. The Green

503
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Speaker 3: Bay Packers acceptable. I think that's good for as young

504
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: as which is, yeah, for as young as they are. Yeah,

505
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Speaker 3: the starters they've talked about, Dubbs and Musgrave and Reed

506
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Speaker 3: and Love, I mean all the air, those are all

507
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Speaker 3: going up for those guys. Yea. The Houston Texans encouraging,

508
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: I say, is much better than the first week. Stroud

509
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: was out there playing well. Pierce helps a lot. They

510
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 3: now have five okay receivers with the Tank, Dell and

511
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Speaker 3: Mechi and Nico and you know, and Will Anderson looks

512
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Speaker 3: like a dude. Will Anderson looks like a dude. Yeah yeah,

513
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Speaker 3: And their OWD line's not bad. Kansas City chief, no

514
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Speaker 3: one caresse Mahomes is on the field and Kelsey's out there,

515
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Speaker 3: it's gonna look good. The only note I have on

516
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Speaker 3: them is the receiver they drafted high what's his name,

517
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Speaker 3: second round pick or whatever. I didn't love him coming out,

518
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Speaker 3: but he played Rice. Yeah, yeah, she Rice. He played

519
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Speaker 3: a ton and everyone's talking about, oh, is he gonna

520
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: be the receiver one. No, no, I just think they're

521
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Speaker 3: trying to get him as many reps they possibly can.

522
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Speaker 2: Because he's not going to play much into the game. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 2: I mean Andy Reid with all the motion and everything.

524
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Speaker 3: It really is. Uh, Las Vegas Raiders physical. They ran

525
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: them all down the throats. I thought Jimmy looked good

526
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Speaker 3: in the backup quarterback O'Connell is against the Rams. Who

527
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Speaker 3: are there's the Rams starters. We'll get to them here

528
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Speaker 3: in a bit. They are backups. They're like the Cardinals almost. Yeah, like,

529
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Speaker 3: oh the Rams rest of their starters. Well, that just

530
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Speaker 3: means cup Stafford and Donald didn't play. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh Miami Dolphins solid in parenthes parentheses essentially or eventually,

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Speaker 2: I should say.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, I guess I haven't. I don't know if I

534
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: watched them this past weekend. They're a little worried. They're

535
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Speaker 3: a little bit worrisome for me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to run the football

537
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Speaker 2: at all. I mean, they got the two great receivers

538
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Speaker 2: as long as they.

539
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Speaker 3: Can get to. Last week, yeah, achmed it had a

540
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: lot of big runs and that's great. They got seven

541
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Speaker 3: back seven having backs with the NFL experience on their roster,

542
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: none of whom have ever been really any good, agreed

543
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: New England typical. I would say the offense was encouraging

544
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: considering where it was a year ago. So okay, Mac

545
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: Jones looks comfortable for the first time and a long

546
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: time for the New York Giants. His takeaway was yummy,

547
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: they're doing fun stuff. They're playing everybody though, but yeah,

548
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: you know, of course I mentioned Lawrence earlier in the show,

549
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: and you know they're playing Andrew Thomas and you know

550
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: expensive guys. Yeah, I mean Darren Darren Waller. Waller, as

551
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: we mentioned in the previous segment, is just jumping up

552
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: fantasy boards like crazy because yeah, but oh yeah, uh

553
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: San Francisco smooth, okay, party's looking okay and getting the

554
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Speaker 3: ball out of his hands. Darnold looks Fine's had a

555
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: better showing this past week. I mentioned I do that

556
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: podcast with the Niners host, and of course he's a

557
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: Niner apologist like I am the Steelers, but he's like,

558
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: I would love to see two series with Lance throwing

559
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: to Debo and McCaffrey and those guys, you know, like

560
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: it's I don't know, judging those quarterbacks are tough for Seattle.

561
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: It was inconclusive. I think their rookies have been good

562
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: smith n Jigba sharbon A. But are they going to

563
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: be starters? That's the question thing their death guys or

564
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, they're rotational guys. Yeah, for sure.

565
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Speaker 2: And getting to what he wrote about the Steelers, and

566
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Speaker 2: the Steelers kind of led this whole thing. Getting back

567
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: to them, he said, look, uh, the AFC Super Bowl

568
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: chases led by the Chiefs, Bengals, and Bills, followed by

569
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Speaker 2: the unpredictable, fascinating Jets, Ravens, Browns, and Dolphins, plus the

570
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: young and hungry Chargers and Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Maybe. I don't think

572
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: there's any maybe about I don't. Yeah, yeah, because the

573
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: rest of the article kind of shows. He says the

574
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Speaker 3: Steelers are an afterthought in any Super Bowl discussions, but

575
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: many observers believe that there they will be in the

576
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: playoff race. Mike Tomlin is an outstanding coach, and the

577
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Speaker 3: Steelers have had not had a losing season since two

578
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: thousand and three, but few think the Steelers will be

579
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: actual contenders. They're led by second year quarterback Kenny Pickett

580
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: playing a brutal division and have a knack for non

581
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Speaker 3: losing seasons of nine to six and one, nine, seven

582
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: and one, and nine and eight variety. I think they've

583
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Speaker 3: been a little bit boring, like, oh, they'll be fine,

584
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Speaker 3: but the AFP start. Oh, the AFC is so tough.

585
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: We've said this a thousand times on this show. Okay,

586
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Speaker 3: so look at these AFC contenders who he mentions here.

587
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: The Chiefs, Well, the Steelers don't play the Chiefs. The Bengals, Okay,

588
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: they play them twice, but that's expected. The Bills, Okay,

589
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: they don't. They just saw what they do head to head. Yeah,

590
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: the Jets, Steelers don't play the Jets. The Ravens they

591
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: play them twice, the Browns they play them twice. The

592
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: Dolphins they don't play them. The Chargers they don't play

593
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: the Chargers, and the Jaguars they play them. But it's

594
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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, lad in the year. Yeah, Yeah, I mean

595
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: that's wonderful, and what more can you say about it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, those are your contenders. Those are all the

597
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: contenders in the AFC. Nobody's gonna put New England in

598
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: that class. Nobody's gonna put Houston or Denver or the Raiders, right,

599
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's still a deep group. I mean there's

600
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Speaker 3: more way more than seven teams there. There's more to

601
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: shift through. But if you do what you did last

602
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: year and split go three and three in the AFC North,

603
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: that's about saying like they're not gonna go in six

604
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: in the North. Yeah. I don't think anybody will.

605
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Speaker 2: Right, I don't think there's any team they'll go and

606
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: six in the North. So if you go three and

607
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: three or two and four in the North, you're still

608
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Speaker 2: going to be in the playoff mix.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't shock me if every team has between two

610
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Speaker 3: and four wins in the North. Yeah, because that's just

611
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: how it goes. Yeah. I mean the Bengals were an

612
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: outstanding team last year and went three and three in

613
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Speaker 3: the AFC North. Everybody in the ANFC North, he said, Look,

614
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: this is frankly for the Steelers playoff chances. If that

615
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: happened again, that would benefit them more than the other

616
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Speaker 3: three teams, probably considering the other AFC teams on the

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Their play you know some of those teams are playing

619
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Speaker 2: you know the Chargers or you know they're they're going

620
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Speaker 2: to see some of those games. So he's what else

621
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Speaker 2: he says. He said after twenty Saturday twenty seven and

622
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: fifteen victory over the Bills, it's time to take notice

623
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: of the Steelers. The starting offense needed just seven plays

624
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: to score two touchdowns against the Bills first team defense.

625
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: The Steelers defense prevented Josh Allen from letting up the

626
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: sizzle reel, applied consistent pressure, and shut down the Bills

627
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: running game. Okay, no great feat blanketed Buffalo's starting offense

628
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: for three series. What he doesn't make note of air

629
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: is that third series was with the backups.

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Speaker 3: On the field. Yes, those guys right so, and even

631
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: the special teams got in the act, with Calvin Austin

632
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: returning upon fifty four yards to set up the Steelers

633
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: second touchdown. Yeah, he's on top of it. They dominated

634
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: the game. They dominated the game. I mean, I honestly

635
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: don't care about fourth quarters and stuff like that. They

636
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: dominated the game. One negative I'm curious what your thoughts

637
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: are about the game is if you take the war

638
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: and run out. They averaged less than two yards per

639
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: carry for their running backs. I'm not concerned about that,

640
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: but some of it was McFarland on the one, Raymond,

641
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: and you know that stuff kills your average. You know,

642
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: if you don't get the one again you do, it

643
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: hurts your average.

644
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: With the Steelers second team line in there running against

645
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: some of Buffalo's right first team guys, right.

646
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, obviously it'd be different if he had

647
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: the starters in there.

648
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: Like I saw one of one of the Pittsburgh writers was,

649
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: this is what happens when you have, you know, something

650
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: like that happening behind a bad offensive line. I'm like,

651
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: it's not a bad offensive line, like anyone of Like,

652
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: if I plugged any one of those twos into the

653
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Steelers starting offensive line.

654
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: They'd be capable. They'd be capable. But when we have

655
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: all five of them out there at the same time,

656
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: it's going to look a little disjointedjointed, right, and you're

657
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: asking McFarland to do not McFarland things. Yeah, you know,

658
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: for a while there, I just thought it was noteworthy

659
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: that if you're if you're picking knits, the running backs

660
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: weren't productive other than the big long run.

661
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm not concerned about that at all.

662
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: I mean, that's again, Nauji Harris has two rushes, two

663
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: rushing attempts in the in the preseason, and he had

664
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: two carries for six yards.

665
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: Okay, and I bet Naugie gets in there from the one,

666
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: no matter who's walking without a doubt, that type of thing.

667
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: You know.

668
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Again, I look at that game and I can't come

669
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: away with anything that doesn't have me even more Yeah,

670
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: optimistic about this team.

671
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: There were two or three guys that I didn't think

672
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: had their best day, you know, Forjoko La Raven Clark,

673
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: but they weren't the guys that might have to make

674
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, you know what I mean.

675
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: The fact that you're going to meet potentially releasing guys

676
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: who our NFL players have been NFL players, it says

677
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: a lot.

678
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 3: Two guys I thought were noteworthy to I've been rough

679
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: on Gunner. I thought he played a pretty good game. Yeah,

680
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: and Cody White kind of always plays a pretty good game. Yeah.

681
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, unfortunately he got hurt in that game. Was released

682
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: today waved injured. I should say I missed that. I

683
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: know he got hurt, I don't know. I mean, they

684
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: could eventually bring him back. They also released he Keem Butler,

685
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: who didn't play in that game. He had no I

686
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: mean the ship has sailed.

687
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, as good as boys been on teams that had

688
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: to be his path and well, yeah, maybe catch on

689
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: somewhere else.

690
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we talked about Gunner last week when

691
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: we were cutting the roster. I think he's your your

692
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: sixth receiver.

693
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: I think he might be. And just because he's a

694
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: football player, yeah, without question. And he played. I'm real

695
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: big on preseason snap counts and stuff. I mean, as

696
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: you can imagine, and he played an awful lot. Only

697
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: Kendrick Green played more snaps on offense than him. So

698
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: what that tells me is they're unsure, but they're gonna

699
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: give him every opportunity to, you know, to solidify it

700
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: one way or another. And I thought he did it

701
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: pretty well with a high snapcount, yeah, as opposed to Green,

702
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: who did not who did not like Roderick Jones and

703
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: most of the other guys were offensive linemen because they

704
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: got the number one line out quick. So Duncle and

705
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: Clark and McCollum and those guys are going.

706
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: To speaking of which, so Spencer Anderson started to. He

707
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: came in the game at right tackle, right ahead of

708
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: Raven Clark, who played some left who played a little

709
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: bit of left, but not with that group. Not with

710
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: that group because that was Broderick Jones.

711
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: Uh. Then he moved to guard, and then later in

712
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: the game he moved to center, play three positions in

713
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: this second NFL time ever putting on a helmet.

714
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean I would think so, I mean,

715
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 2: I know they're people, Well he got beat on this player.

716
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: He's playing three different positions, and he's a rookie, like

717
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: he's a seventh round rookie, and there's gonna be good

718
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: and bad. There's there's a lot there to like, you're

719
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: not gonna You're not gonna release that guy.

720
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, he's done more than

721
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: enough to if they if if they were thinking about

722
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: potentially not keeping him on the roster, they wouldn't show

723
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: all these other teams him playing three different spots in

724
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: the same game. True, and they're just not gonna let

725
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: him be available. Yeah, And frankly, if Kendrick Green were

726
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: playing a lot better, Anderson should worry a little bit more. Right,

727
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: But because he's very center capable, he's I don't I

728
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: don't know if he's active on game day, but probably

729
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: well maybe three definitely gonna be at It depends on,

730
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, Herbig's health situation. Herbig will be ahead of them. Yeah,

731
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: so okay, yeah, yeah, it makes perfect sense. So it's

732
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: I think Clark's in trouble. I think Green's in trouble. Yeah,

733
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: so maybe a cook or somebody like that makes a team. Maybe.

734
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's all things to watch here in this final

735
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: preseason game coming up on Thursday. I can't believe it's

736
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: that quick, Like I gotta fly to Atlanta on Wednesday, Like.

737
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: We only have two drives. Yeah, so tomorrow.

738
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: Today, tomorrow, and then we'll do one Friday coming out

739
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: of the game on on Thursday night in Atlanta. I'll

740
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: still be in Atlanta. Next week. We'll be back to

741
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: a five day a week schedule. I'd some people asking

742
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: me about that on on social media. We're back to

743
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: our normal four to six schedule and we go five

744
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: days a week next week.

745
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we have there's no games, there's no nothing, right.

746
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, we're going to take another break. He

747
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening to

748
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and we will

749
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: be back with more to finish up the show right

750
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: after this.

751
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

752
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

753
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

754
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson.

755
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: And well you found the drive here on Steelers Nation

756
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Radio as you should. And Matt looking here. Indie ban

757
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: Wah put out a thing here on thirty.

758
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: Many people do that. Yeah, don't have a French name

759
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 3: if you don't want the French pronunciation. He's really good. Yeah. Anyway,

760
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: he did ranked the NFL's top nine wide receivers under

761
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: six feet tall. Oh interesting, okay, yeah, this on the

762
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: this on the thirteen.

763
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Uh so at number nine he has Elijah more of

764
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: the Browns under he's five 't ten. He hasn't done

765
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: it yet though.

766
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: He hasn't a couple of games here and there and

767
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: the route running and he's had awful quarterback play and

768
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: he was unhappy. I'm a big fan. Frankly, I think

769
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: he might be their best receiver this year. He very

770
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: well could be. Yeah, we'll see, but it's a bit

771
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: of a projection. Yeah.

772
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: The next guy in this list is also an AFC

773
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: North guy. And it's kind of a projection as well,

774
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: because he's got Odell Beckham at number eight.

775
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: How do you compare More and Beckham? You know, actually

776
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: they're kind of similar. I guess yeah there, Yeah, where

777
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: are you at as we sit here on August twenty first,

778
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and one has never done it, the

779
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: other one has done it in the past, but it's

780
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: the distance pass. Yeah, you're up in age and you

781
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: fought injuries. I don't have a problem with either one

782
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 3: on the list, I mean at the bottom of the list. Yeah,

783
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: they are potentially really good. Odell Beckham has played in

784
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: twenty five games, including the postseason, since twenty twenty. Okay,

785
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: that's three seasons. It's a long time, yeah, long time. Yeah.

786
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: I hope he plays a night. I bet he doesn't

787
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: number seven on here our man money Renfro. That guy

788
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: can't get on the field. I don't understand it. He's expensive,

789
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 3: but couldn't some team he's expensive, Why aren't you using him? Like,

790
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: gave him a nice deal and then they gave Myers

791
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: an even nicer deal. I don't understand that one. It

792
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: seems like you could get him for cheap too. Yeah,

793
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: I think he should be good. He's better. I mean

794
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: he's a great route runner, great route runner, reliable. Yeah. Yeah.

795
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: Number six, another guy that's made a bunch of money,

796
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk with the Jaguars.

797
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: He's better than he should be. The highest one yet. Yeah,

798
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: he's five to eleven veguess receiver, but dirty kind of

799
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 3: has a little bit of a running back build to him. Yeah,

800
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: tough guy.

801
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Number five on this list, Darnell Mooney. I don't know

802
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: if I put Darmenel Mooney ahead of Christian Kirk or renfro.

803
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Suk ahead of Mooney. Yeah. Those other ones

804
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: are a little questionable how to rank them, but they

805
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: sure could have used them last year. And DJ Moore

806
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: and Mooney's not a bad pairing, not a bad pairing,

807
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: both shorter receivers, though a thousand times better than what

808
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: he used to be. Yeah. Number four on this list

809
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson. I didn't know if he was to be

810
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: under six or not. He's five five foot ten. Yeah,

811
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: I mean we stand next to him, he's definitely under

812
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: six feet yes, yeah, okay, these other guys.

813
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: Here's what he says, Deontay Johnson deserves a lot of

814
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: credit for how his route running has improved each of

815
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: the last few seasons. He's now an elite inside receiver

816
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: who can also win on the perimeter. He fits in well.

817
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: He fits well into a Pittsburgh Steelers offense that often

818
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: spreads out and affords him space and de facto one

819
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: on one matchups, with the Steelers featuring three by one

820
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: formations with usually more than are usually more than any

821
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: other team. There are a variety of ways to use

822
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: Johnson's inside.

823
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 3: Interesting that he keeps stressing inside because I don't think

824
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: he lined up in the slot all that much last year.

825
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of a training camp. There's going

826
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: to be more, and he certainly has the that elusiveness

827
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: to do it. Andy's a big tap He's a tape

828
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 3: guy through and through. Yeah, and he studies the stuff

829
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: pretty intently, the route running stuff. People who want to

830
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: harp on Deontay Johnson not scoring a touchdown last year, yeah,

831
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: I mean the final game of the season, he got

832
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: tackled at the one right like at the one against Cleveland,

833
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: and they punched it in on the next play. It

834
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: was just happenstance. Yeah, I mean, if you play seventeen games.

835
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: That's a one in eighty chance you end up not

836
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: getting in. It's not going to happen again this year, No,

837
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: I mean unless his injuries are take a step back

838
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: or get replaced somehow, and I don't see any of

839
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: those things happen. So these are the guys that Johnson

840
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: is comparable to, up be ahead of all the other

841
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: names mentioned. Yeah. Number three is Tyler Lockett. Lockett's a

842
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: better player than he is. Yeah, I mean, Lockett is

843
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: explosive and what a career he's put together. Yeah, I

844
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: mean he is a big time player.

845
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Number two, the two and one are both on the

846
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 2: same team. It's Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill.

847
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 3: Hill's easily won. Yeah, I mean, Hill's an elite player

848
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: that was coming off an elite year, has had an

849
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: elite career and fits in perfect. Wattle versus Lockett's interesting

850
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: to me though, Yeah, I mean, one's a lot more accomplished.

851
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: Wattle's scary though, Yeah it is. So, I mean that's

852
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: the kind of and when people talk about Deontay Johnson

853
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: and this, this is what was so impressive to me

854
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: about the two Steelers scoring drives. If you want to

855
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: call him drives. So the opener against against Tampa Bay,

856
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson gets three catches on the on that opening

857
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Speaker 3: touchdown drive, He's targeted three times, catches three three balls

858
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 3: for thirty four yards or whatever it was. This time around,

859
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: he didn't even get a target, right, but they scored

860
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: two touchdowns without Deontay Johnson being involved at all, but

861
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: still demanding attention and right, you don't have to rely

862
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: on them, but you can.

863
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was the kind of the interesting

864
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: thing about that whole series of events to me, Like

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson's biggest contribution outside of as as as Kenny

866
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Pickett said drawing a double team down in the at

867
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: the end zone, was the block on the other touchdown

868
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: he was involved. He was involved in both touchdowns without

869
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: getting the football instrumental.

870
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he was as important as the left

871
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: tackle or maybe everyone that besides the ball carrier and quarterback. Yeah,

872
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: so making it happen. People complain, well, he makes too

873
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: much money, blah blah blah.

874
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. Because he affects the game.

875
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: You have to opposing teams have to respect his route running.

876
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: Ability big time, big time. So I referenced Matt Harmon

877
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 3: a lot reception perception when we talk receivers. Yeah, and

878
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: he recently put out his top ten receiver list. I

879
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: think Tyreek was two, maybe three. No, shock Lockett was ten,

880
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: which people don't look at him in that light, and

881
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: Waddle was a just missed. Deontay was also a just

882
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: miss Yeah. You know, like people that know and don't

883
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: just look at numbers but watch the tape and really

884
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: study it and chart it. Understand the value of those guys.

885
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: I mean, those are the people he's being associated with, Tyreek,

886
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: but the other ones.

887
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: The reason the reason Pat Friremouth was open on that

888
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: touchdown pass was again because the safety shaded the Deonce

889
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 2: side on that pick. It said in the post game

890
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: press conference, Look, I was based on the look I

891
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: was getting pre snap. I was going to Deontay read

892
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: he's the first ring based on the snap he got

893
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: or the look he got after the ball was snapped.

894
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: Then he goes to Firemuth because the safety shaded that

895
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: way because they feared him, right, they feared him in

896
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: a situation where they're just looking at Okay, what do

897
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: we got here? They're looking Okay, he's going to go

898
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: to Deontay Johnson here.

899
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: And who's to say, but I'm Dave Davis. I'm just

900
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: throwing out an average, starting, good, good receiver. Would the

901
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: team have done that, showed that much respect to a

902
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: guy like that? Probably not? And maybe then throw it

903
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: to Davis, But you know that that influences the game

904
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: a lot.

905
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think I think Deontay Johnson has got

906
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: a a bad rap coming off of last season.

907
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: We've talked about that before. It really is don't get

908
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: in the end zone, then you're you're a fantasy bust.

909
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: And he was a fantasy bust, but he was not

910
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: an NFL bust.

911
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually looked up his over unders for I think

912
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: yards and receptions. He's like eighty two catches catches. I'm

913
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Speaker 2: going over that.

914
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: My only problem with going any over with the Steelers

915
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: offensive skills. I understand or people are gonna be in

916
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: the field than usual, But if he gets again, he's

917
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: going to be out there. He's going to get Alton.

918
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe he.

919
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Doesn't get one hundred and forty targets this year. Maybe

920
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: he gets one hundred and thirty, but then they might

921
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: be higher quality. He might be fresher, you know.

922
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Speaker 3: But his yardage total was like seventh, wasn't seven to fifty.

923
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Speaker 3: It might have been like eight hundred or something like that.

924
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: It's pretty low for a guys. Okay, you're saying he's

925
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: going to get eighty two catches, that's the number. You're

926
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 3: saying he's going to average less than ten yards of catch,

927
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: which is crazy. But then secondly, I think he's gonna

928
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: get fifty yards a game. Couldn't even find him on

929
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Speaker 3: the touchdown list. Maybe he's off the board. He's off

930
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: the board because like, where do you put that line? Yeah,

931
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 3: I mean if it's two or three, I'm going over.

932
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 3: I think Pickens was like four and a half. Pickens

933
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: is really low. Yeah, I saw that one. I mean,

934
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: like they throw. I mean, he's a get fades, he's

935
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: a get designed stuff near the goal line. And Kenny

936
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Pickett's touchdown number was eighteen and a half way way

937
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: way too low, way too low. Yeah. I mean, I'm

938
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 3: sure they'll pound it in plenty, but it was still

939
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: plus one. It was plus one hundred to go eighteen

940
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 3: and a half. Really crazy. Wow, I mean, just think

941
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Speaker 3: a friarmooth Pickens Robinson, Washington, I mean those guys are

942
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: red zone receiving targets weapons. Two of them weren't there

943
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Speaker 3: last year, and one of them was a rookie.

944
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't even talk about Darnell Washington drawing two

945
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: pass interference penalties in the end zone because you have to.

946
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: You have to. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's gronk

947
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: like and it is. I mean, he presents if you're

948
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: a safety, which he's gonna get a lot, that's tough

949
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: to get that rebound. Yeah, I mean, you know, as

950
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: as somebody who played a lot of basketball was often

951
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: giving up a lot of height playing inside. Yeah, I

952
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: can agree that's a little more physical. I was like

953
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: the second tallest dude that played pickups hoops in my

954
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: Brown days. Well, Ben Coats was the first one, so

955
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: I got Ben. Sometimes that feels like me trying to

956
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: get a guarding Washington. You know, I'm just like swinging

957
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: in the air and yeah, you know, Dunk said, so

958
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: that's how the feeling was against a safety on Washington

959
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 3: post up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but Matt, that's going to do it for our

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Speaker 2: show today. Fun Get absolutely enjoyed being back here and

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Speaker 2: enjoyed getting back into the swing of things here in

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Speaker 2: the studio. We'll be back again tomorrow again. Walk to

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Speaker 2: the calf, right now, that would be good. We'd like

965
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Speaker 2: we'd enjoy that, but that's that's not gonna happen. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to go home and eat. But that's gonna

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Speaker 2: do it for the show today. So for my partner

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, for justin here on site keeping us on

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Speaker 2: the air, I'm Dale Lollie. We appreciate you listening to

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Speaker 2: this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.