1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Hi everybody. It is h one fourteen in the morning 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: here on the twenty third of January twenty twenty two. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: the hosts of Morning Combat, and this is our UFC 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: two to seventy post fight show. It will just be 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: me today, but of course you'll get all of the 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell you can wish for on Monday. 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If you don't want spoilers, now's 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: your time to go, because we gotta get this party started, 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: all right, So subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, do all that good stuff. 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's pull up this results and 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the numbers as I always do, 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: so let me get that as well, because that is 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: an important part of this show. All right, here come 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: the results. Let's do it up. First. Your main event, 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: of course, UFC two to seventy took place at the 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Honda Center in Anaheim, California. All right. In your main event, 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Francis Sannganu defeats Cyril Gon incredible right via unanimous decision 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: forty eight, forty seven, forty eight. I have not seen 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: any of the numbers. I guess we'll take a look 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: at those when we get them. But for now, what 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: is there to say about this? Wow? Who who do 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I start with? Let's start with the thing that stands 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: out to me most about this fight. First of all, 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: incredibly impressive for both guys. I think I think most 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: fans can walk away and say that I don't know 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: if either guy had their best showing, I think it 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: was in some ways a pretty unexpected fight all the 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: way through, especially in that fifth round. But in general, 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: I think both guys gave you a lot of reason 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: for confidence too, right amidst all their errors, here is 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: so here he is my own producer. Okay, what an 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: epic miscalculation by Cyril Gone in the fifth round. I 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: don't I Cyril Gone. I spent a lot of time 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: telling everybody and a stand by it, and certainly, and 52 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I think I'll explain the difference. This is a I 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: think also Cyril Gone has had a bit of a 54 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: learning lesson here about some of his own deficiencies, perhaps 55 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: related to fence wrestling, I think grappling in general. Obviously 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: he comes from striking. A lot of his striking is 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: you know you saw here today right stick and move 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: either all the way in he was clenching and rapping, 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: or he was all the way out right and that 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: kind of thing, which was smart. That's why he didn't 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: do those roundhouse kicks, because that's I mean, that can 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: be you know, depending how you work it, but that 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: sometimes that can be a real mid range kick. And 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, with with Gon and God who 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: having an eighty four inch reach, he just or eighty three. 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Excuse me, you don't really want to play with that. 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: But this is the point on the feet Cyril Gone 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: has or cereal however you pronounce it, has extraordinarily high 69 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: fight IQ. He just makes constant good decisions right and 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: when he is the one kind of doing Muay Thai 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: ish ressling along the fence line, he also looks like 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: he just makes really good decisions right when when it 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: comes into his wheelhouse. He makes good decisions and he 74 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: is a good grappler. I think you saw that he 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: ran the pipe in the fifth round on the head 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: outside single, which was great. He looked I mean, that 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: was textbook. He looked great doing that. So he does 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: have some ability. But I think what showed up to 79 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: me a little bit was there is a difference in 80 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: the level of his decision making as it relates to 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: what to do on the feet versus what's the decision 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: making on the ground and what are the proper things 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: to do in certain situations. Obviously, you know, running the 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: pipe and having to get on top of the fifth 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: round is not a situation that Gon found himself in 86 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot, but I want to tell you a story. Now. 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I've often maintained this, always maintained this, I will forever 88 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: maintain this. My training experience is merely as a hobbyist. 89 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't in any way wish to suggest that, you know, 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you just be very careful about being the al Bundi 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: who threw four touchdowns in high school and then using 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: that as a reference point for professional athletes. However, what 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: I will say is, and I think you know, if 94 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: there's any question about this, and you know anyone else 95 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: who grapples, or perhaps you can ask your favorite GP, 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: I do believe that they will say that there is 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: probably something to this. It is probably true that you 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: will see a lot of really advanced grapplers get into 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: a situations, a lot of where they might stand, wrap 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: an ankle and then sit for some kind of leg entanglement, 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: he'll hook whatever. That does happen pretty frequently, but there's 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different context to it. There can also 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: be someone who is a little bit more of a 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: beginner slash intermediate grappler, and what they'll do is they 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: might not know how to pass guard, or they might 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: be tired and not want to pass guard. They might 107 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit lazy about passing guard. And if 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: you find yourself on these situations, especially with another beginner 109 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: to intermediate training partner, what will often happens. Their feet 110 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: will be loose and so you can just kind of 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: grab it and then sit. I one time got like 112 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of like like macked in the back of my 113 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: head very lightly by an instructor being like no, no, no, no, 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: no, no no no. It's like, yes, there are people who, 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: of course can do that. You know, may be a 116 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: zambist or again, you know, really experienced leglockers. They can 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: they can work without having to pass. They've got all 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: kinds of things. And you saw him use it, by 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: the way, you know, he did do something great where 120 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: once Francis got to his feet, you saw him use it. 121 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: He was extending to off balance Francis, because if Francis 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: can get on his feet and you can't raise the 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: heel of Francis, the heel hook power goes away. But 124 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: he was able to off balance him, so he did 125 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: some good stuff underneath there. But that decision to sit 126 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: was epically bad, a giant miscalculation. And it seems to 127 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: me it comes from the fact that the decision making 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: skills that he has earned for himself in these clinch 129 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: positions and at range, they are very very high. But 130 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: that's because he has much more experience and much more 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: he's worked through these kinds of problems in a much 132 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: more ready way. That is clearly not the case on 133 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: the ground. It seems to me that the lack of 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: experience on the ground affected his judgment calls about what 135 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: kinds of positions and attacks to pursue, and he he 136 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: punted basically on the fifth round as a consequence. Now, 137 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm only bringing that up not to tell you that 138 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: is the story of the fight. I do not think 139 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: that is necessarily the story. It's the story of the 140 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: fifth round, for sure, and it's the story I think 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: of what cyril Gon really got wrong. However, maybe the 142 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: more important story is Francis Anganu is really quite exceptional. 143 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: He and his team are really quite exceptional. Let me 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: also make sure I get ama culpa here. I thought 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: for sure cyril Gon was going to win this fight. 146 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I was pretty confident he was going to win this fight. 147 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I think he was barely the odds on favorite by 148 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: the time the fight started. But you know, whatever, you 149 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: want to say about that. I knew Francis was dangerous. 150 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I think we all knew Francis was dangerous. Did I did? 151 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I believe that Francis could wait patiently, preserve enough car 152 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: to win the fight with wrestling late? No? I didn't. No, 153 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I didn't got it wrong, got it wrong, got it wrong, 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't see it coming, never discussed it. I think I 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: will give credit to Brian Campbell. I think he did. 156 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: I think he was much more of an active believer 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: in the wrestling of Francis, So credit where credit is due. 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: I think Brian had more foresight about that certainly than 159 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I did. But I just I gotta tell you, I 160 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: just gotta be honest with you, guys. I just didn't 161 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: see it. I knew that, you know, if he wanted 162 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: to engage in that, let's say in the second round, 163 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: maybe early third that, you know, I thought he could 164 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: do something with it. But to be able to like 165 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: get taken down like that, and even though I thought 166 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: God made a miscalculation to get on top and then 167 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: he having his own sweep and reversal, you know, well, 168 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: I think it was sweep is something where top goes 169 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: to bottom goes to the top using a guard a 170 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: reversal is when they don't. I need to go back 171 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: and look to see if he used a guard to 172 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: do it. But either way, you know, getting on top 173 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: like that, just he continues to be full of surprises. 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: His growth is beyond real. At this point. I didn't 175 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: think anybody could give Cyril Gone a tough fight, much 176 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: less a fight than looked like that. And he did, Dude, 177 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: he did. He did. He at thirty five years of age. 178 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: He is incredible. He is incredible. Dude, go back and 179 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: look at some of those things. That takedown was just 180 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: insanely powerful. And you know he's not out there mobile 181 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: passing and all that kind of stuff. It's not There 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a ton of ground pound on top because you know, well, 183 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: I think we all thought, well, if Francis could get 184 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: on top and he still got some cardio to do 185 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: some wrestling, maybe he's gonna have terrifying ground to pound 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: and I bet if he gets going he does. He 187 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: didn't this time, probably out of concern for losing Cyril underneath. Right, 188 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Cyril was not so dynamic. You saw a lot of 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: times he would get allowed the mount so he could 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: drive a hand underneath and then kick him past with 191 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: one of his own legs, throw him past him, and 192 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: then with the arm use it as an underhook to 193 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: throw France's bibe. And a lot of times it didn't work, 194 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: or it kind of worked halfway and he had to 195 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: use a lot of energy to get out of it. 196 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: But you just got to take your hat off to 197 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: clearly all of the hard work that Francis has put 198 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: in the gym to stay calm under pressure, to you know, 199 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: maybe give away the first couple of rounds. Maybe the 200 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: first well, I guess he didn't scoring to the judges, 201 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: but you know, you may have. I thought the fight 202 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: turned in the third. But you know, I've always found 203 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: it impressive not just to beat Gone over the course 204 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: of five rounds, but then you spotted him the first two, 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: so you had to win the last three. He is 206 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: a marvel. He is a marvel man. I mean, this 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: fight was kind of labeled, you know what, and including 208 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: by fernand Lopez, the coach of well, previously of both, 209 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: but certainly of serial Gone. You know, they kind of 210 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: made this fight out to be bronze versus brains. But 211 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't that was a crude way to look at 212 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: it before the fight, and it's certainly not true here 213 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: after the fact at all. Francis, Yes, of course he's 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: got the dim mock. You know, he touches you and 215 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: he'll fucking turn you into sand in an instant, right, 216 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean he will be I mean, you know, Francis 217 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: knocks people out and leaves their shadow, imprints it on 218 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the octagon. I mean, he just vaporizes people. I don't know. 219 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if his power is going to translate 220 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: into the fifth or not, But in any case, I 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: for Francis to not really use that somewhat certainly has 222 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: a threat. Dewey Cooper telling him to go to the 223 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: upper cut and Francis doing it. That deterred. I think 224 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: a lot of some of Gon's initiation of exchanges on 225 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: the feet, Like I thought in the first round, he 226 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: was kind of in a little bit more of a 227 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: flow before Francis really got cooking with some of the adjustments, 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: and then when he got with the adjustments, then it 229 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of Then it was a lot more 230 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: stuff at range, not not quite as much with the hands, 231 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: and you know, to wait where you're even you know, 232 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: you're still getting pot shot at a little bit you're 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: still getting jabbed a little bit to wait on that 234 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: and then find an opportunity with pressure, careful pressure, not 235 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: to get lit up himself, you know, because Gon does 236 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: have big strike athletic potential as well. And then to 237 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: control the fight with takedowns, and then when he got 238 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: the takedown, immediately reaching for risk control once Gon got 239 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: to an elbow like the Dagistani handcuff. All that stuff 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: to get so understanding how to control the position and 241 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: managing his resources and not letting God do anything, but 242 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, work off the defensive. That's so impressive for 243 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: a guy to be a late I mean, thirty five 244 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: is not super old for heavyweight, but just as a 245 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: person in life athletically, for someone to make these kinds 246 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: of strides at this age. Again for heavyweight, I grant 247 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: not super old. But you even heard Francis tonight in 248 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: the post fight speech like he's like, you know, I 249 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of time left, not some 250 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of immediate departure, but not a whole lot of time. 251 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: You know, now is the time to start making some 252 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: the You can see he's thirty five years of age. 253 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: You can see why he's thinking about these things, why 254 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: this is important, why it's something he wants to do, 255 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: why he needs to get paid, you know, these big bucks, 256 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: and to be this late in your athletic life. And 257 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: still you know, he's showing the kind of development that 258 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: these guys show when they're you know, twenty eight, you know, 259 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: when they fight to fight and they're like, they're just way, way, 260 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: way better. He didn't show it as much in the 261 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Rosen Strike fight, but that was during the pandemic, and 262 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, it was all kind of strange. But in this, 263 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: in the steep A Miochic rematch, and certainly in this one, dude, 264 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: he is. He knocked out step A Miocic and out 265 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: wrestled Cyril Gone in back to back fights. I mean, 266 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: he is a marvel. He just continues to amaze me. 267 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: And I I didn't buy into the whole pre fight 268 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: thing which we were discussing about its brains versus Braun. 269 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: I thought there was a little bit it to it. 270 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: I thought there was something to it, right, because Cyril 271 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: isn't as terrifying as as Francis, and Francis on the 272 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: feet isn't quite as the smooth operator that that Gone Is, 273 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: but it turned out that wasn't what made the difference 274 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: in the end. Man, I gotta tell you. If Curtis 275 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: Blades can't beat Francis and Steve A. Miocic can't beat Francis, 276 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: DC's retired for now. For now, Cyril Gone can't beat Francis. 277 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in a second. I don't know 278 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: who beats Francis. Gotta tell you, Gotta tell you. Tom 279 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Aspinall looks like a great prospect, but he's got to 280 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: get through Vocal and that's a hell of a fight 281 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: right there. Who the hell the other people he's gonna 282 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna fight him? Jesus Christ, what didn't match that 283 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: go up with? Let's see who am I forgetting at 284 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: this point? Derek? Okay, there's the Derek rematch, but uh no, 285 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: wait is Tom fighting Derek? Or is Tom Aspinall fighting Volkov? 286 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: Who's fighting? Oh no, Derek's fighting Taitu i vasa. That's right, 287 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: So we got we got to figure out who that 288 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: But like I know, Derek Lewis beat him before, but 289 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: that was I think we can all grant a very 290 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: a very different Francis. Chris Blade is sitting at four, 291 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: volkov Is sitting at five. Rosen Strike already thought I'm 292 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: sitting at six. You know, Dawks just coming off the 293 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Derek Lewis loss at seven, and after that point, you know, 294 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys are gonna touch 295 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: for I mean, who, who the fuck's gonna beat Francis. 296 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: I just I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm you know, I'm sorry. 297 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: I I didn't see uh more potential for this pre fight, 298 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: but certainly got the wake up call on this. Now, 299 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: let me look at some of the numbers if I 300 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: can with this, very very impressed by. I mean, I 301 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: gotta say too, man, did you did you guys hear 302 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: the corner work? Did you hear the corner work with 303 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: the well Nixon in the lead and then you know 304 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: he's he's playing maestro here and then pitching it to 305 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: do we do we pitching it back? And then you 306 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: know that's very coordinated. They knew exactly what the game 307 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: plan was, they knew exactly what they wanted him to do, 308 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: and they knew they knew how to deliver it. Man. 309 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: And also like with Nixic, dude, he's so good at 310 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: like certain rounds where he'll dial it back for certain 311 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: piece of advice, depending on the tenor of the round, 312 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: he'll dial it up for other ones. And he knows 313 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: like he doesn't like yell at you, And between the 314 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: third and the fourth he saves it between the fourth 315 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: and the fifth and he says it to him, We've 316 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: been through so much. I believe in you, Like dude, 317 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: I felt it, like I know France has had to 318 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: feel it. I know we got taken down. But then 319 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: showing that perseverance through it, you know, you're seeing some 320 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: of those same kind of grappling advancements, you know, in 321 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: a different way. But like with with Israel Ada Sonya, 322 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: right where someone initiates something that looks kind of bad 323 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: but then they've got some kind of reversal through the process. 324 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Shows the comfortability with that. It shows you know, a 325 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: certain obviously a certain degree of technical proficiency with with 326 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: those with those moments of those positions and those those exchanges. So, man, 327 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: I think the only guy who can beat Francis candidly 328 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: at this point and until someone proves otherwise in the 329 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: UFC is is Cirrial gone. And I do think gone. 330 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: I do think probably most folks will agree that like 331 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: that was probably too too heading into the fifth he 332 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: got the takedown, he royally messed that up, but but 333 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: showing all the other things that he showed. I don't 334 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: know who's gonna beat Gone either. Curtis Blade seems interesting 335 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: given given what the we'll talk about the John Jones 336 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: thing here just a second. Curtis Blade seems interesting now 337 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: that it does appear that maybe we learn more about 338 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: Gone not having he had one hundred percent takedown defense 339 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: heading into this fight, and it looked really good in 340 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: the moments that it was relevant. It just turns out 341 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: there's a different level of relevant. Francis is much better. 342 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Those long arms allow him to get really good into position. 343 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Allah John Jones's he's got that going for him, you 344 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: know pretty well. And may maybe Curtis Blades could make 345 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: things interesting for Gone. I think I think that's an 346 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: interesting fight to see what happens there. Who could come 347 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: out on top A big, a big test for Cyril 348 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: Gone give him what we've seen tonight. Now, what about 349 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: the John Jones thing, Well, I again, I thought, uh, 350 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: I thought Cyril was gonna advance tonight and then even 351 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: be better than John, and so certainly in being wrong 352 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: about Francis probably have to dial back that. But who 353 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: the hell knows because we haven't seen John, So maybe 354 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: that's right, maybe that's wrong, but you know, not really 355 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: a relevant point of discussion. Obviously, Francis is the big one, 356 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: so we're asking about in that heavyweight division who can 357 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: beat him? But you know one guy not listed there is, 358 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: of course John Jones. How would he do here? You know, 359 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: could John put a pace on fran where he lands 360 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot actively? Right? He's kind of you know, what 361 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: is John Jones really good at? With his striking? John 362 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: Jones excels at what I call single strike high variants. 363 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: He does throw combos time to time John Jones. But 364 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: what he really is quite gifted at and very very 365 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: smart about, is he'll throw side to side, high to low, 366 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: punch to kick, knee to elbow. In other words, it's 367 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: coming from all over the place, right he is. He's 368 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: just pot shotting you and they're accurate, and they're fast, 369 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: and they whip into you, and you know, he's never 370 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: really doubling them up or you know, sometimes he'll go 371 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: same side, he'll go bodyhead even standing something like that. 372 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: But you get the idea, it's a lot of single shots, 373 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: single shots, single shot coming from all different places. Could 374 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: he do that at range long enough to avoid big power, 375 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: maybe clinch with him if he had to, and then 376 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: kind of be on the run and you know, really 377 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: work his footwork. Maybe maybe maybe that seems doable. Could 378 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Francis take him down, Could Francis out wrestle him. You know, 379 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't think setl Goan's takedown defense is bad by 380 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: any stretch. I want to be clear about that. Like 381 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: he didn't show up in the way that he needed 382 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: it to for him tonight, But I don't think it's bad, 383 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: although I got to say another thing that he did 384 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: that I really didn't When they go for the standing 385 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: camorra as like a takedown defense, you can go for 386 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: the standing kamora if you like, if you can step 387 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: out and around and then use it to like reverse position. 388 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: But if or if you've already got it over there, 389 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: uh back, and then you can kind of sit, you 390 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: can pull them into almost like a seated like a 391 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: pulled camorra. But you know, just locking up kumora where 392 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: you've got the grip, it's a powerful I've said it 393 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: before on this live chat why do people go for 394 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the the two on one. They call it the double 395 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: wrist lock in in catch wrestling. It's because it's a 396 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: very powerful grip, Like if someone gets on you, you can't 397 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: just wiggle your hand free. It's extremely powerful, and so 398 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: when someone does it, it can like slow someone else down. 399 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: They can't do a lot to you. But you know 400 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: it's not You're not going to reverse anyone anybody good, 401 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: anybody heavy, anybody strong. Like Francis, he set for that 402 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: shit too. I was like, I think a couple of 403 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: times I was like, not great, not great to be 404 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: candid with you. So there are clear issues there. Where 405 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: was I going with Francis on this detour? I'm not 406 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: so sure. Okay, let's use that as an opportunity to 407 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the numbers, shall we. 408 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: These are courtesy thirty twenty seven, which used to be 409 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: formerly known as fight Metric. These are the official stats 410 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: providers of the UFC. It should also be noted that 411 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: the numbers you see on screen during the broadcast are 412 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: routinely incorrect, So with that in mind, let's get the 413 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: correct ones. Okay, Wow, Francis and ganu uh he was 414 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: numerically outstruck, but how many of those were like the 415 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: slapping things that don't really count. So these numbers we 416 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: should be very careful about them. We should always be 417 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: careful about numbers. But I'm going to extra caution you 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: this time. Sixty three of ninety one for Gone, forty 419 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: three of one hundred and four for Francis. Francis actually 420 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: was busier and got four or five takedowns. Can you 421 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: believe that? Amazing? Wow? Man? That I mean, if you'd 422 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: have seen, if you'd have showed me that part of 423 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: the stat line, like if you get someone from the 424 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: future was like, hey, look at the stat line. I've 425 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: been like, okay, forty three punches. Like if told me 426 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: it was going to go five rounds, you could imagine 427 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: a case where Cyril Gone wins going five rounds. That's 428 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: at least plausible, right, if you could have showed me 429 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: in the stat line Okay, I'm looking at it. Zero 430 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: knockdowns okay, forty three of one hundred and four significant strikes, okay, 431 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: total strikes seventy one of one hundred and thirty nine. Okay, 432 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: sub attempts, zero reversals one. That's interesting. Control time eight 433 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: minutes and twenty nine seconds. That's interesting. Takedowns. Four of five, 434 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: four of five takedowns. I'm sorry, I just didn't see 435 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: totally wrong. Didn't see it coming. You'll learn something new 436 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: every time in this fight game, every time. By the way, 437 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: the judges on this one with their scores, I read 438 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: the scores to you previously. Let me assign the names 439 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: to them. Saldiamato had it forty nine forty six, Ron 440 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: McCarthy forty eight, forty seven, Derek Clearly forty eight forty seven. Okay, 441 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: let's look at targeting Francis Andnganu. Dude, this is a 442 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: big part as well. How about France is doing a 443 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: ton of body work at range, not chasing the head 444 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: of Cyril Gone a couple of times looking for it. 445 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: But I thought it was so impressive how Francis and 446 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: his team had You could tell they had worked on it. Dude. 447 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: This guy's gonna lean on you, he's gonna move side 448 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: to side on you, he's gonna turn you. He's gonna 449 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: be hard to hit. But what will be there is 450 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: the body. What will be there is the body. Always 451 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: when you have an opponent that sticks and moves, look 452 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: to see if their opponent has a clear game plan 453 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: to the body Earth Canelo against Arislandi, Laura Canelo against 454 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: Caleb plant if he came out right away knowing I 455 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: got to kill this dude to the body if I'm 456 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: going to have any success, because he's gonna stick and move. 457 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Great job, Great, they did a great job. Twenty percent 458 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: to the head, twenty percent. Francis's most impressive knockouts all 459 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: came like, let's let's let's look at Francis's knockouts right, 460 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: who has he KOed? Okay? In the UFC, he stopped 461 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Luis Henrique on the feet with punches to the head. 462 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Curtis Blades, same thing, the mi Holovich guy that think 463 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: that was ground and pound, But that doesn't really count 464 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: because that guy didn't belong there. He submitted Anthony Hamilton's 465 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't count. Arlovsky head punches, Overem head punches, Curtis 466 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: Blades head punches, Kane Velaski's head punches, Junior Dos Santo's 467 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: head punches, Rosenstrike head punches, myochiic head punches. In this fight. 468 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: According to the targeting stats that we have here, where 469 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: he only went twenty percent to the head, he went 470 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: forty eight percent to the body. He targeted half of 471 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: everything he threw to the body, thirty percent to the leg. 472 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: So understand that in this fight, even though Francis has 473 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: the most terrifying one punched knockout power we've ever seen, 474 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: he and his team realized that's not really gonna help 475 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: us here. We have to be good enough. We have 476 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: to be good enough to put together a game plan 477 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: on our other strengths that uniquely fit the challenge of God. 478 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: Because going to the head, you can do it sometimes, obviously, 479 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: especially with the uppercuts, but in general he's gonna be 480 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: hard to find. And so they neutered themselves, so to speak, 481 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: in terms of one of their greater strengths. Also, they 482 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: could focus in on things that clearly Francis still has 483 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: abilities in but would would not say are necessarily the 484 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: things that have made him Certainly not what got him here. 485 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Body punching is not what got him here. Going to 486 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: the head one out of every five things you throw, 487 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: including anything with your leg, so all total strikes one 488 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: and very five is not what got him here. Dude, 489 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: that is extremely impressive that they did this, Extremely impressive 490 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: that they did this. That is remarkable. That is remarkable 491 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: that you can take a guy I don't know if 492 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: out of his comfort zone is the right word, but 493 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: out of the territory where he has done, matter of 494 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: factly the best work of his career against the very 495 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: best foes he could have, and they didn't fight that way. 496 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: They fought a different fight. At that's very remarkable for 497 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: a guy who, you know, all the talk was about 498 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: God who hasn't been training that long an MMA, which 499 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: is true. But let's not forget it's not like Francis 500 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: has been you know, at the well. I mean, he's 501 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: he sees in VET I understand, but it's not like 502 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: he's got you know, a double digit experience under his 503 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: belt either. I don't think that he does not yet anyway, 504 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: So that's just extremely impressive. And then I mentioned the 505 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: control time as well, eight minutes and twenty nine seconds 506 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: for Francis. Francis was on top again. I was worried 507 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: about the lack of ground and pound, but there was 508 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: God did a really good job of like from half guard, 509 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: sitting up, putting his head underneath Francis's firing an underhook. 510 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: And if you've ever been in one of those positions, 511 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: even when to the uninitiated, the person on top my 512 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: little they're in control. But I'll tell you who. You 513 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: ask any grappler, who would you rather be? The person 514 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: who is sitting on the underneath, who is lower than 515 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: the other person, but has the inside head position in 516 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: the unhook, And even like let's say a foot or 517 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: two covering the inside space, You're always gonna want to 518 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: be that inside guy, always, always, always, because from if 519 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: you have an underhook and an inside position, you can 520 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: stand and then you can take him down, you can 521 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: reverse them. There's just so much more you can do it, 522 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: even if the other person looks to be on top, 523 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: right and so he so I think that was negating 524 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: a lot of what Francis wanted to do. But that 525 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: is dude, I'm blown away by that man. I'm really 526 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm very, very very impressed by that man. Herb Dean, 527 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: by the way, I thought he missed maybe one of 528 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: the low blows or like ipoke or something. I think 529 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: it was a low blow that Gone was complaining of. 530 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Maybe Herb missed it, but in general was kind of 531 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: invisible in this fight, which is what you wanted. That's 532 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: what you want, right, You want. You don't want the 533 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: referees to be involved in this kind of thing at all. 534 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: So man I am I gotta tell you is that 535 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: is easily the best performance of Francis's career. And you're 536 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh no, the oveream knockout is better, or 537 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: the you know you pick picked something else, the I 538 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: don't know, Velaskez or Alawski or whatever. His highlight reel 539 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: is incredible. How about this? How about Francis? How about 540 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Francis breaking the resume review curse? How about big old 541 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: Francis blowing up the curse. Canelo of course blew it 542 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: up and it didn't exist, But how about Francis blowing 543 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: that shit up? Huh? For some of you this will 544 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: be highly relevant, probably the mouth breathers among you. But nevertheless, 545 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: nevertheless it will count. How about he fucking blew it 546 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: up too? Caught me by surprise. Amazing, amazing, amazing that 547 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: he's able to do this at this stage in his career, 548 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: and that his team worked on this. I can't wait 549 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: to talk to Aeron. I hope I get the chance 550 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: to talk to Eric Nixon about what the game plan 551 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: is because they I don't have to go back and look, 552 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: but they figured that one to a tea. Okay, I'm meandering. 553 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: I'll come back to it. Let's talk about the co 554 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: main event. Denison Figuredo defeats Brandon Moreno forty eight, forty seven, 555 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: forty eight, forty seven, forty eight, forty seven, unanimous decision. 556 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: He now claims back the belt that Brandon Moreno took 557 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: from him Farren square, but now Figuredo takes it back 558 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Farren square. It depends on your view. I thought scoring 559 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: would have been all over the place. I thought Figaredo 560 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: did a little bit more that fight. I also thought 561 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: could have been too too heading into the fifth. I 562 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: thought he did a little bit more in that fifth round. 563 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: It's amazing how it often comes down to that between 564 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: these people, and I thought that made the difference. I 565 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: thought it was just a little bit ahead and a 566 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: look like the judges agreed. Now I've not seen the 567 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: scorecards know exactly how they did it. I will try 568 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: to look and see. Yeah, I gotta find that. I 569 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: see what I can do about that. But you get 570 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: the idea. Uh, okay, what's the story of this fight? 571 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Fair to say Figureedo had a better game plan. Brandon 572 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Marino acknowledged it, as said as much in the post 573 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: fight interview with Joe Rogan. By the way, anecdotally, for 574 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: whatever it's worth, I didn't see very many complaints about 575 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Rogan and DC tonight. On my timeline. Usually I see 576 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: a fair amount of complaining, and you know it's Twitter. 577 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: People complain, which isn't to say that the complaints aren't correct, 578 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, time to time, Time to time, of course 579 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: they are. But anyway, I didn't see hardly any of 580 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: that tonight. But okay, it looked to me like the 581 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: wider stance and the leg kicking, which was probably Sahudo influenced, 582 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: played a big role. Not brawling as much with moreno 583 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: played a role. I actually feel like lowering the amount 584 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: of offense played a role. The first two fights were 585 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: electric because there were so many moments where the ship 586 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: was just dialed up to eleven. And I think Figuredo 587 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: has had a style up to this point where he 588 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: liked I said before, he's got a good clamp. You see, 589 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: the really good grapplers in MMA aren't the ones that 590 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: necessarily have There's a certain kind of scale that guys 591 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: have to get a bite on something where they can 592 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: their initial attempt to grab a submission. A lot of 593 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: folks have to grab it and then work their way 594 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: into it, and that can sometimes just be a circumstance situation. 595 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: But some of the better ones are the ones that 596 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: have a good clamp. Charles Olavera has probably the better 597 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: clam he's got. He might even have a better clamp 598 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: than like Demi and Maya. He's not a better grappler 599 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: than Demian Maya, but he's got a better clamp. And 600 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Figurado's got a great clamp too. Right with his legs 601 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: and with his arms, he can just find a submission fast. 602 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: And he wasn't pulling the sugar with that as much. 603 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't trying, and the instincts behind that too. Like 604 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: clearly what Henry told him was, Okay, what are you 605 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: good at? Let's do those, but let's do those in 606 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: a more calculated, systematic, programmed way. To the extent possible. 607 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: There will it's a fight, it's chaotic, you know things 608 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: are gonna happen, but to the extent possible, let's let's 609 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: let's let's bring this back now. I wonder normally I 610 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: would go to the stats a little bit later, but 611 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if the stats back that up in terms 612 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: of aggregate volume. I've actually not looked, so let's see 613 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: what they actually say about this, because if I'm right, 614 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: there should be a little bit less volume across the board. 615 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: I think from both of the three fights, well, the 616 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: first two. The second fight didn't go very long, so 617 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: I guess between the first and the third. But let's see, 618 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: all right, so this fight one hundred and five significant 619 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: strikes for Brandon Moreno. Eighty six for Brandon for Divison Figeredo. 620 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: But and this is a huge difference. Three knockdowns. That is, 621 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to win fight. It's getting knocked 622 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: down three times in a championship contest. And if we 623 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: look at so we got one oh five to eighty six. Okay, 624 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: so if we look at their first fight, Yeah, first fight, 625 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: one thirty two, one thirty seven, so about another rounds 626 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: worth of volume, basically even more. And what was the 627 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: average output in the second round of the first fight? 628 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Excuse me? The second fight? So Brandon Moreno. Twenty five 629 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: strikes landed against strikes in the first round of that one, 630 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: then ten and then twelve. Let's see in this one, 631 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: how did he do ten twenty eight in the second okay, 632 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: twenty six and the third those are good numbers. Gets 633 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: back down to earth a little bit. In the volume 634 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: was high, so that doesn't count, no, so that's not 635 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: the issue on that side, but relative in the second fight, 636 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: but relatives is the first one significantly less overall volume. Okay, 637 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: I'll come back to the stats here in just a minute. 638 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: So it didn't so much payout for the second. Well, 639 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: the second one and the third one were more alike, 640 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: I guess, but it certainly was a difference between the 641 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: first and the third. Neither here nor there clearly Figuredo 642 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: had great leg kicks. Brandon Moreno I think was a 643 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: little bit surprised by him, and Brandon Moreno had an 644 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: interesting game plan that I thought was really well situated 645 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: for their first fight, which was he was going to 646 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: play a counterfighting role, sometimes counterfighting even through pressure, but 647 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: counterfighting just the same. But the two were related. The 648 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: counter fighting with high activity allowed him to land and 649 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: then push Figaredo backwards, but without there being much activity here, 650 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: he couldn't land as much, which means the pressure game 651 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: was in. It did work at times, but it was 652 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: inconsistent whatever Sometimes they were just kind of facing off 653 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: in front of each other, and he couldn't get that 654 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: part that really slows down and minimizes Figaredo on the 655 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: feet going as a consequence, that's really smart by Henry 656 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Sahudo and the team. Smart to dial him back a 657 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: little bit, not a whole lot. They didn't turn him 658 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: into a different fighter altogether, but they made him a 659 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: much more focused fighter. He wasn't throwing garbage out there 660 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: and chasing these you know, scrambles like squirrels. He tried to. 661 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: They tried his team anyway, tried to get him to 662 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: avoid that this time, and it paid huge dividends. So 663 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: he had a better outside game. He's not going so crazy. 664 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: Let me look at some of his targeting on this 665 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: one as well. So this is targeting for Devison figuredo. 666 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: He targeted the leg thirty one percent of the time 667 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: in this one. What about the second fight? He targeted 668 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: the leg sixteen percent in that one. Wow. And in 669 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: the first one. You gotta be shitting me seven percent 670 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: seven percent In the first one he targeted the leg. 671 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: Devson figuredo seven percent eighty seven percent to the head. Okay, 672 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: so eighty seven and seven were the numbers there for 673 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: head and leg for Devison figuredo and this time it 674 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: was forty six and thirty one. Much better distribution of targets, 675 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: much much more. And I think doesn't need this, It 676 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be this balanced for every opponent, but 677 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: for this one, nice balance of different kinds. Forty six 678 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: percent to the head, two percent to the body, thirty 679 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: one percent to the leg. So he ratcheted up the 680 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: pot shotting. That was hard pot shotting, but pot shotting 681 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: at distance. He didn't chase the firefight. He didn't chase 682 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: the scrambles when he could avoid it. There was a 683 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: couple of times where you know, Brandon took it to 684 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: him and and and and had some success with it. 685 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: What rounds were those? I had to go back and look, 686 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: let's see here. Uh Moreno got a take down in 687 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: the fifth, certainly, but that was a that was a 688 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: that was a hell of an effort from the Brazilian there. 689 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: That really was so smart of him. And you know, 690 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: you got to give credit to the team man. They 691 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: did it all right. His weight cut was phenomenal. He 692 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: looked great at one twenty four on the scales. Sucked 693 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: out of course, you know, that's a big weightcut. They're not. 694 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: It's not it's not nothing. But it was handled expertly, 695 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, dude, you can just see the different. Dude, 696 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: look at the camp for that. Not not to say 697 00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: that God doesn't have this, and not to say that 698 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: Moreno doesn't have this. That's not in any way what 699 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: I am saying. But I am saying, just look at 700 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: the winning corners here, dude, They've got everyone's got a role, 701 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: everyone understands it. There's a hierarchy there. The fire has 702 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: a game plan, he has an objective. Everyone knows it, 703 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: everyone understands it, and they execute and then make adjustments 704 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: on as it proceeds. And there's all. It's very structured 705 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: and very ordered, and it has to be given how 706 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: chaotic this is. So the question you have to ask 707 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: yourself is that, if you're one of those trainers or 708 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: those coaches, is okay, we can get this whole process 709 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: dialed in, But do we have the right idea about 710 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: what works? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't do they did, 711 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: and they executed it to perfection. How about these guys 712 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: Deverson Figaredo thirty four, Frances and Nghan Who thirty five 713 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: getting with the right people. And again not to say 714 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: that the people they were with before didn't level them up, 715 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: because they did. Everyone plays a journey in the development 716 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: of a martial arts and a fighter from nothing to 717 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: their highest heights and plays a role. But you know, 718 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: turning that corner for what they needed at that time 719 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: in their career, what can you say about what that 720 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: was phenomenal? Didn't work out for Joan Wai Lee, but 721 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: even she looked to have a better game plan and 722 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: that was smart, man, that was really, really really smart. 723 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: Take away the legs, don't brawl. I will say this 724 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: about Brandon Marino. You know what stood out to me 725 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: about him that I thought was impressive because I was 726 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: gonna say, go for the takedown with Devison Figuredo, and 727 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: they did. They went after eleven takedowns. He attempted three 728 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: in the first, four in the second. But I'll explain 729 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: why I think this turns just one in the third, 730 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: one in the fourth, and then he attempted two in 731 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: the fifth. The two in the fifth to me, looked 732 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: like he was just putting in the effort to win. 733 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: But I will tell you what the story was. The 734 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: one thing about Brandon Marina that I really thought was 735 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: good here. The problem was because Figaredo dialed back. He 736 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: just stood around too long, waiting, not doing anything. If 737 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for someone to throw. Famously, if you watch, 738 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: I think it was the last fight on Rico Rodriguez's contract. 739 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: Rigo Rodriguez, for folks who don't know, Tim Silvia beat 740 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: him to get the title. But Rico Rodriguez back in 741 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: the day was considered like the future of what heavyweight 742 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: fighting could be, and and blah blah blah was really 743 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: impressive and athletic and could wrestle and could strike and 744 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: do everything else, but eventually kind of washed out of 745 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: the UFC. And his last fight was with Pedro Hiszo 746 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: and both of them were counter strikers, and for three 747 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: rounds they fucking look at each other. It's the most 748 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: unbelievable bizarre shit you've ever seen. You're like, dudes, because 749 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: du Pedroizzo was a violent finisher, you know, and Rigo 750 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: Rodriguez is you know, I think that wasn't peak. But 751 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, they just stood there in front. So for 752 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Moreno, he just stood around too long, just kind 753 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: of waiting. But but but but one of the things 754 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: Figaredo did that worked early. That Moreno took away from 755 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: him was a lot of times he was going way out, 756 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, like cafkick, calfkick, circle costs turning Moreno, do 757 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: you guys notice that all was making him turn And 758 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: what he would do is I'm trying, I'm trying think 759 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: about exactly how i want to say this. What what 760 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: what Figuredo was able to do, uh, initially was throw 761 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: through a blitz and then you know, get some response 762 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: from Reno and then get underneath it. So he was 763 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: waiting for where he was waiting for other responses or 764 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: combinations through responses and then he's trying to get underneath it. 765 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: And like every time though, right like really put doubt 766 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: in Brandon's ability to blitz with combinations and move forward 767 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: because that's what that's how Brandon. When Brandon's busy, he's better. 768 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: He has to counter strike to be busy. But he 769 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: when he's busy, he's good. When he's not, it's a 770 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: little bit harder for him. So but but what I 771 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: noticed with the takedowns were at first that was working 772 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: well where you know, it was really offsetting Brandon, and 773 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: then he goes from defending it where you know he's 774 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: able to either get up off the bottom or whatever, 775 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: to now he's kind of you know, neutralizing it and 776 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: then separating right because he knows it's coming now, so 777 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: he's adjusted for it. You can see him. So what 778 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: he would do is he would throw and then immediately 779 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 1: fire an underhook before he could even see a level 780 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: change from Figuredo, knowing it would be necessary, and sure 781 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: enough he was right, it was right, So that was 782 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: really smart. And then he went from like getting off 783 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 1: of his feet to like defending it to neutralizing it 784 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: to then he was the one he would throw block 785 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: the takedown and then he would throw on top of it, 786 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: and that completely dissuaded Figuredo in that third and fourth round. 787 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: Again by the fifth the fight got a little bit 788 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: more opened up, but you get the idea there, very 789 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: very very impressive by Moreno to encounter something that was 790 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: initially trouble for him not only not really take it away, 791 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: but then actively to take away as like a threat 792 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: to yourself, but then actively deter him and make him 793 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: even like stop doing it, not completely, but a lot 794 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: in any kind of concerted way, by virtue of how 795 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: you had really adjusted well to that very very very 796 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: good work from Brandon Marino. And again this was a 797 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: fight where afterward Figuredo says, let's do a fourth fight, 798 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: and let's do it in Mexico City. No one, no team, 799 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: no pair has ever fought four times in UFC. It 800 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: happens in boxing a little more regularly, but it has 801 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: never happened in UFC. I can't think of a better 802 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: time to do that than this. This is these two 803 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: guys are built for each other, and I think my 804 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: friend R. J. Clifford, who works for Serious exem and 805 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: I think UFC as well. He tweeted like, Okay, these 806 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: guys have fought three times and I'm really not sure 807 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: who the better fighter is. I still kind of feel 808 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: like Marino's the better fighter. He's certainly the better fighter 809 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: in the firefight. That's true, but it still remains to 810 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: be seen. Figuredo figure out a Figurededo had a better 811 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: game plan tonight of the two. He did. It was better, 812 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: It was smarter. It was smarter. He knew that they 813 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: worked in a way where one was kind of waiting 814 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: on the other. So how do I turn the spigot 815 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: off and then just blast him, you know when I 816 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: want to? That was rather than having a fire hose. 817 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: They put the thing at the end of the fire 818 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: hose where you now can pull the trigger on it 819 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: and spray it in a coordinated way. Huh, there's your analogy. 820 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: That's a very dad analogy. But you know, I'm fucking 821 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: forty two. What I have to hide. People don't think 822 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm cool. They never have, they never will. It's okay, 823 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't mind, all right. If you're watching his thumbs 824 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: up on the video, hit subscribe, please hit subscribe, hit subscribe, 825 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: hit subscribe. You hear me saying this to you. I 826 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: need you to do it. The power difference. Joe Rogan 827 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: or maybe it was Cormier, I can't remember who one 828 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: of them said they thought that moreno hit harder than 829 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 1: figure out. I don't think that's true. I think that 830 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: I think that Brandon is better, as I indicated in 831 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: the firefight. He likes the heat of the moment. I 832 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: think he's got a better chin. Even though he got 833 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 1: knocked down. Now, some of those knockdowns were from the 834 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: one of the one of the knockdowns was from the 835 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: leg kick. I think again, I have to go back 836 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: and review it. And but they were big punches too. 837 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: But I just mean to say that Brandon morenos durable 838 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: as shit. I think that Figuredo hits harder, and so 839 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: Brandon was eating harder punches. I think Brandon hits plenty hard. 840 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: Don't misunderstand me. I'm just saying I think Figurada is 841 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a power puncher, but I 842 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: thought that Brandon's punches. It was weird, right. They were 843 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: having this effect where it like it would look like 844 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: Figareda would like go like slow motion for a second 845 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: and then kind of pick it back up. It was 846 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly what impact they were having all 847 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: the time. But dude, you know it's if you're if 848 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: you're giving up two takedowns, that's not not super detrimental, 849 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: but the three knockdowns and then two and almost a 850 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: half minutes of control time, you just can't do it. 851 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: You can't give it away. And again, here's that stat line. 852 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: If you had showed me, okay, Figureat it's gonna land 853 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: ninety five strikes it, we'll go the distance, he'll get 854 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: two of eleven takedowns, I'd be like, Okay, it's a 855 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: little surprising, but not that really, No, that's actually pretty good. 856 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: That sounds about right. Blah blah blah. Oh he'll get 857 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: three knockdowns. I'd be like three. Fuck, that's a lot 858 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: for a guy who got I mean Moreno ran through 859 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: him last time. Impressive. That's impressive by him to be 860 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: able to to to really fine tune. Like if you 861 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: think about it, they changed his stance a little bit, 862 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: they widened it, But did they really reinvent him. They didn't, 863 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: right Like, they took what he's good at, gave him 864 00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: a couple little extra dimensions and cleaned it up, and 865 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: then sent him back out there and he executed. So 866 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: for Moreno to beat figuredo. You could say he got 867 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: pretty close tonight. True, but the thing that really slowed 868 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: him down was the waiting and so therefore the relative inactivity, 869 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: and as a consequence, he's going to have to find 870 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: some kind of way to create more openings. We talked, 871 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: you guys know my work, and then you hear me 872 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: say it all the time. There is going to be 873 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 1: a difference between fighters who take advantage of openings, which 874 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: is by the way, no small feet like it's still important, 875 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: perhaps the most important, given the regularity of it, But 876 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: there's a difference between that and then somebody who can 877 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: create openings right that there's nothing going on that was 878 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: going for them, and then they can do things that 879 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: now make openings appear and then take advantage of them. 880 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: That those are the ones you got to be really 881 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: really worried about if moreno can advance to that gear. 882 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: And every indication is he seems like the kind of 883 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: guy who can. But the question is how fast and 884 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Is that that's the missing piece of 885 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: his that's the that's I'm not saying the Okay, I 886 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: almost said that's the missing piece. That's a missing piece 887 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: of his game, but perhaps one of the more important ones, 888 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have to do things that he doesn't like, 889 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: not all the time, doesn't have to change who he 890 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: is anyway. But he But if you're if you're gonna 891 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: wait on offense, your best work is contingent upon your 892 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: opponent's activity the predominant amount of the time. If your 893 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: opponent clearly deprives you of that, you are gonna be 894 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: swimming up stream. At that point you need to create 895 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: your own downstream where I can just look at you, 896 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: move in a certain way, a certain way, throw a 897 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: certain thing, whatever, whatever I have to do to get 898 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: you to be open and then and then attack if 899 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: moreno can do that, and he can do that to 900 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: some degree, but if you can really lean into that, 901 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: you know, he can be something pretty impressive. So that 902 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: was the issue there by the way, I gotta say, 903 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: like the the that gave me vibes and was that 904 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: the Honda Center. I forget where Caine Velasquez beat brock Lesner, 905 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: but I think that was the Honda Center. I could 906 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: be wrong, if it is dead wrongly or whatever, but 907 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: I remember when Cain, you know, you go to most 908 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: MMA shows. This is changing a little bit now, but 909 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: like back in the the aughts, you know, dude, it 910 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 1: was like ninety eight percent just normal American white people. 911 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: You know, it was very few of anybody else. That's 912 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: changing a little bit now. But I distinctly recall I'm 913 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: not saying it per Jordan. I'm just saying, that's just 914 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: who's there. That's just who's there. That was just who 915 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: was there. Uh. I'veus a lot of Brazilians and like 916 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 1: that too. But okay, I remember when Caine beat Lesner 917 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: that that was the first time you just you looked 918 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: in the audience and you had never for seeing that 919 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: many Hispanic fans out to see at a moment in 920 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: Mma for the UFC anyway, like in in the United States, 921 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: not so much in another country, but certainly like in 922 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: the United States at that point for a Hispanic fighter, right, 923 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: that connection between the Hispanic market that's here and then 924 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: Hispanic fighter and grand Branda Mariana is from Mexico, but 925 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: this was in the United States, and that it reminded 926 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: me of that. Now, he didn't obviously give them what 927 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: they want in the end, some people, I think he 928 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: won up to you to decide that, but that was 929 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: that that reminded me tonight. And I do think it 930 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: was smart of them to put this fight in LA. 931 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: I think that was a good call by UFC. And 932 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: by the way, you know, in the California Commission, they 933 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 1: got for the most part, they got pretty good judging. 934 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,479 Speaker 1: I know some folks probably agree with this call because 935 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: people Branda Marino was extremely well liked and it was close. 936 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: But you gotta you got a great you got a 937 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: great team of officiants for the most part for this. 938 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: Frank Trigg out there doing some interesting work as well. 939 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: So if you have a question about this, we'll get 940 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: to it all my tweets. How long have I been 941 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: going for Jesus Christ? Uh? Pretty long? Okay. On the 942 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: rest of this card, I'm not sure what to say. 943 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: Michelle Padda defeating Andre Fialio across the board. I don't 944 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: have much to say about it, so he never got 945 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: made up defeating Cody stamen Man. Cody Stamens a very 946 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: talented fighter, and I think he'll want this one back. 947 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: He gets submitted givet he choke forty seven seconds into 948 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 1: the first round. I think he'll want this one back 949 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: because wild nemer goamdev will slick to sneak the arm 950 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: behind him in the scramble. As Cody got remember he 951 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: got taken down, so then he begins to sit up 952 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: as he gets As he sits up, he puts his 953 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: ear like a head outside single or head outside double 954 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: tomber made Nermera made snakes his arm in transition around, 955 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: so you never go made off a slick with it. 956 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, maybe maybe I think if 957 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: you talk to stamen and I have it obviously, but 958 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he would probably say he 959 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: wants that one back because he didn't need to get 960 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: up that way so quickly, and then Michael Morales defeeding 961 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: Trevin Giles, Trevan Giles making some interesting choices that I 962 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: just didn't understand, galloping into Morales and then throwing a 963 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: punch kind of far away and missing, and then just 964 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: getting chewed up on the counter. Michael Morales didn't even 965 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: look he looks down when he throws. Go back and 966 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: look at the go look at the footage. He actually 967 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: looks down before he throws. It landed, and it landed hard, 968 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: but he didn't. He actually was blind when he threw it. So, 969 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about some of that stuff on maybe 970 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: what do you call it? Extra credit? All right, let's 971 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: see what some of your questions are, shall we? Who 972 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: do you think John Jones gives the hardest time to 973 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: a heavyweight Steepe Gone or Francis at this point, I 974 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 1: guess again, before before to Night, my answer was gone. 975 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: I need to see what kind of retooling he does 976 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: with his grappling and his wrestling and in some of 977 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: the decisions around that. I guess it might be Francis. 978 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: I've been wrong about Francis and so probably Francis. Yeah, yeah, 979 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, one thing about John Is John Is. John 980 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: makes good fight decisions too. He has fight high fight IQ. 981 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: He noticed he didn't really brawl it out with Chiago Santo's. 982 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: He didn't really like the big punchers. He kinda stays 983 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: away from. I think I think Francis could give him 984 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: some interesting problems. Maybe John's more competitive than I give 985 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: him credit as well. Certainly that can obviously be the case. 986 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: While he won, I don't think Francis raised his popularity 987 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: very much. Doesn't have much more bargaining power than before. 988 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: Viewership waynes press conference did better than two sixty, but 989 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: not as much as Usmann is. Yeah, yeah, maybe he 990 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: didn't do a lot well, Okay, he didn't have a 991 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,439 Speaker 1: performance that is going to be memorable in the kind 992 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: of way that I think perhaps YOUFC might have hoped 993 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: if he sticks around, or that maybe even he would 994 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: have hoped, like it wasn't this dramatic knockout. Right, they're 995 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: not gonna make a lot of NFTs, except for maybe 996 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: anything but the slam that Francis had. But at the 997 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: same time, remember the New York Times did a huge 998 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: article on him. ESPN the magazine did a huge article 999 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: on him. You know, he was on the Daily Show. 1000 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, celebrities are shouting him out, even though he 1001 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 1: didn't look like super amazing in terms of like being entertaining. Tonight, 1002 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: he made good on the promise of a win. That 1003 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: counts for something when you do these kinds that we get, 1004 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: these kinds of press exposures, these media cycles, they do 1005 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 1: count even with a win. And and again, dude, it's 1006 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: not like he doesn't have a good highlight reel outside 1007 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,959 Speaker 1: of this fight. And also again, dude, who again, people 1008 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: aren't going to buy a John Jones fight? Like, I 1009 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: know what your point is. This was not the kind 1010 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: of thing that makes me any want to see you. 1011 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, by itself doesn't want to make me see 1012 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: a Francis and Ganho fight. But do are we really 1013 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: gonna say Francis's fights fucking suck? It just wasn't his 1014 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: like most exciting fight tonight? No. No, But here's the thing. 1015 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: If you're an insider, if you're a hardcore fan, if 1016 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: if you know better, then I don't think I'm the 1017 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: only one saying this tonight. I bet you the other 1018 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: people are saying it tonight too, which is okay, Maybe 1019 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: this isn't the kind of performance that gets the crowd 1020 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: on their feet, but it gets the insiders to go, huh, yeah, 1021 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: Francis is fucking good. We can remove the most dangerous 1022 00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 1: part of his game and still beat the most dangerous threat. Wow, man, Wow, 1023 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: how the fuck are they gonna beat this guy? They're 1024 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: not gonna They're gonna have to wait till he dies 1025 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: of old fucking age and then do weekend at Bernie's 1026 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: to get any shot. You know, based on the way 1027 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: that he's beating motherfuckers these days, it's just unbelievable, you know, 1028 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: So your point is, I understand it. I saw John 1029 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: nashtweet that, like, oh the this will ruin his bargaining 1030 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: power with the Fury fight. I mean, I don't know 1031 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: what bargaining power he would have if they can end 1032 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: up even making such a thing. But I gotta tell you, 1033 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that they could sell the fuck 1034 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: out of that fight even with Tonight's performance. I gotta 1035 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: tell you they would. Dude, again, Francis is highlight reel 1036 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 1: his status. You know, they would find a way even 1037 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: if John is declining. I think this fight shows he 1038 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,720 Speaker 1: has a better chance than I thought. I would agree. 1039 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 1: I would agree we'll have to see. No one really 1040 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: knows how John's gonna look, but I will agree the 1041 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: idea that Gone and Francis are so lights out dominant 1042 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,479 Speaker 1: that John couldn't hope to compete is pretty clearly not true. 1043 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: Or so we think. Is this a problem for Gon 1044 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: now in that other people will be able to take 1045 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: him down and make him do dumb stuff? Or was 1046 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: that somehow an Enganeu thing could be just an Nganu 1047 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: thing because it was a training partner scenario that could 1048 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: be true. I think we'll have to see. There's no 1049 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: way to know. You're right to think that he could 1050 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: have quirkily done it with a guy he knew really well, 1051 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: and so that threw him off in some kind of 1052 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: weird way. That's possible. We'll have to see again. A 1053 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: Curtis Blades flight would be very telling, very telling, Luke, 1054 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: how do you feel about in Gon who being given 1055 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: the fifth on the basis of half a round of 1056 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: control and no damage. That's the other part too, It's like, 1057 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: what do they reward you see gont On? Gon got 1058 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: the takedown and then sat for a submission and applied it. 1059 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: There was I saw one, maybe two decent applications of 1060 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: it where he was kind of cranking. You know, what 1061 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: was weird to me was that he never reaped the knee. 1062 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: It was almost like when he was going for the 1063 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: heel hook, he was going by like, you know, certain 1064 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: tournament grappling rules where you're not like ibjj F rules 1065 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck we're for like nogi grappling where 1066 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to reap the knee. Uh, you can 1067 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: reap the knee in MMA, like you can absolutely do it, 1068 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: and he like wasn't doing that. He was doing a 1069 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: different kind of heel hook that wouldn't have he would 1070 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: have to switch his grip. I have to go back 1071 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: and see what he did in this transition. It's all 1072 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: a bit of a blur. But anyway, dude, why the 1073 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: fuck did he sit? I mean, what a epic miscalculation. Anyway, 1074 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: I want to see what the fuck he does next time. 1075 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: Oh oh, let me look at the numbers for the 1076 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: fifth round. So this is the fifth round in numbers, 1077 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: and again numerically, I may, let's see what it says. 1078 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 1: So they're gonna give uh serel gone seven of twelve 1079 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: strike strikes, Francis just five of thirteen that's interesting. So 1080 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: syl Gon landed two more in that round, but Francis 1081 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: attempted thirteen and Guy is credited with two is credited 1082 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: with a reversal. It's close. It's close, dude, That's what 1083 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, this is why Cyril sitting to that thing. 1084 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I guess you get the submission there 1085 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: of the attempt is like an attempt to you know, 1086 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: advance the fight. But it was not a very tight 1087 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: heel hook and it was not like I mean it 1088 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: was it was okay, It wasn't like terrible, but you know, 1089 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: seeing better. I don't know what the hell he was thinking. 1090 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I really don't know what the fuck he was thinking. 1091 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to some of your questions here. 1092 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Dana not putting the belt on Francis 1093 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and skipping the post fight press conference before we jump 1094 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: to conclusions, we should maybe hear what there might be 1095 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: something going on not so much with these two, like 1096 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, some issue at T Mobile or or 1097 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: not a mobile Honda center, or maybe he has some 1098 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: personal emergency, like you know, it doesn't look great, but 1099 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: we don't know. We should we should admit that we 1100 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: don't know. Someone says, if you didn't know Askarov and 1101 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Pantoja were injured not ready, feel like Moreno needs a 1102 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: win before a fourth That's fine, that's why. And they 1103 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: couldn't really go to Mexco City anyway because of COVID bullshit. 1104 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 1: But that's fine. I'm not saying like the fourth one 1105 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: has to be next, you know, but you know, if 1106 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: they ended up like I don't know, Pantoja gets the 1107 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: next one and Figgy wins, and then Moreno beats Ascarov 1108 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: in some kind of rematch, I wouldn't mind the fourth 1109 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 1: How about that? Someone says, feels like most people only 1110 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 1: remember that Moreno Figi one was a draw, and not 1111 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: the fact that if you if not for the point 1112 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: deduction in that fight, Figgy would have won by unanimous decision. Yes, 1113 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: but that fight is pretty different than the third fight so, 1114 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: and certainly different than the second fight. But I mean, 1115 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: even if you when to compare the two five rounders, 1116 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: there's this major strategic shift which we've been talking about 1117 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: that that just makes them very different experiences. Is it 1118 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: possible the heel hook didn't work because Francis's knee was 1119 01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: already blown out? Lol? Maybe honestly, that's it's funny you 1120 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: bring that up. Maybe maybe do you think that Francis 1121 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: won the fifth round despite serial having success on the 1122 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: feet and going for sub Yeah, we kind of went 1123 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: over this one. I know Francis won anyways, but to 1124 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: me a little he had multiple opportunities for the von 1125 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: fluchoke with Gon's arm wrapped around the back of the head. However, 1126 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Francis continually moves the arm off. Do you think you 1127 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: didn't nobody just chose to keep the control. No, dude, 1128 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: let me explain something to you. When you're a big, 1129 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,439 Speaker 1: strong guy like that, the first fucking thing they teach 1130 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: you at jiu jitsu is head and RM triangles. It's 1131 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: the first fucking thing. I mean, you might learn guillotines first, 1132 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: you might learn rear naked chokes first, but I guarantee you, 1133 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: if you're above two hundred and fifty pounds, every fucking 1134 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: instructor on earth will come up to you and be like, hey, 1135 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: big fella. You know, especially if you're new, let's work 1136 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: on the head and arm triangle. And you know it's 1137 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: such a power move. Dude. You go back and look 1138 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: at the head and arm triangle that brock Lessner hit 1139 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: on Shane Carwin from a technical application, it's not well 1140 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: apply like that's not a textbook head and arm triangle. 1141 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: Buy a million miles and Shane Carwin, you know, had 1142 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: lactic acidosis or wherever the fuck was ailing him. Uh 1143 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: fair enough, but still the point is that you can 1144 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: with that position in MMA, it is often possible to 1145 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: just fucking he man it. You can he man that position. 1146 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Von flu would be a little bit different. Von flu 1147 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: requires you would have to wrap and then trap his 1148 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: arm with your own grip head no arm triangle, you 1149 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: would not have to do that. But the point being 1150 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: is one of the problems with being a big man 1151 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: and going for a head and arm triangle is it 1152 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: actually can be a pretty technical position. There's a few 1153 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: different ways that I've seen it taught to be finished. 1154 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: I had one instructor show us that you can actually 1155 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: kind of put your chest on the back of their arm. 1156 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: It kind of like rise up into it, and that's 1157 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 1: the one way. You know a lot of other guys 1158 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: will then twist, you know, is another one you can 1159 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: do to kind of finish it walk away from it. 1160 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things you can do, but the 1161 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: point being is a lot of times big guys will 1162 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: put a lot of energy into it, right, they'll fucking 1163 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you can get it. But in the fifth round of 1164 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: an MMA fight with an opponent like Cyril Gone, and 1165 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: granted there was other opportunities, but I can understand why 1166 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: he might be apprehensive about that. He absolutely knows how 1167 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: to do a head and non triangle. I think he 1168 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: chose not to and probably wisely tell us how weight 1169 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: and size is considerably more important in grappling than striking. 1170 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: Francis has improved technique, but this is exactly how to 1171 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 1: beat somebody when you've got size on them. Yeah, dude, 1172 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Gon's size is good because he's still big enough to 1173 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: handle himself to forty seven or so, to handle himself 1174 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: when he has to in the clinch, and you know, 1175 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: to an extent on the ground as well. But obviously 1176 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: he's lighter, he's like a tight end. He can kind 1177 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: of move, he can dart, he can get in and out, 1178 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: and he's bouncing right, So he gets to manage his 1179 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: resources that way. But the problem with that is if 1180 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 1: you lock up with somebody bigger than you and they're 1181 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: strong as fuck, you know you are giving up. He 1182 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 1: gave up at least ten, maybe fifteen. Cormier thinks twenty pounds, man, 1183 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: that do twenty pounds with somebody who knows how to 1184 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 1: use it. It's like being trapped under a sheet of 1185 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: fucking ice. Ah, it is terrible, bro, it is terrible. 1186 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: You know, I've there's been times where there's this dude 1187 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: we got paired up with. I used to train with 1188 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: all the time. He was well into the three hundred 1189 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: pounds and technical and technical, and you know, you get 1190 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: underneath him and side control, and sometimes the fucking coach 1191 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,439 Speaker 1: would be fucking around, will like put like a nine 1192 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: minute round on the board. That's a long nine minutes. Bro, 1193 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Let me fucking tell you, that's a long nine minutes. 1194 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's there is not a lot 1195 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: of air under there. It is absolutely fucking horrible. And 1196 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: the guys who are good, you know, who was it 1197 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: who taught me this? One of the great things that 1198 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: was taught to me was and there's different ways to 1199 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: execute this. But let me give you an example. How 1200 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 1: do you put your pressure on top? If you've never trained, 1201 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: you cannot you cannot appreciate this. But people talk about 1202 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: certain people's crushing power. You guys hear me all the 1203 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: time talk about shoulder pressure. Right. If you can shoulder 1204 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: pressure your way into someone and you can make them 1205 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: look away and I mobilize the top of their spine, 1206 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 1: and then you mobilize their waist, you can pass them. 1207 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: It's extremely painful. Bernardo Fario, that's one I always talk about. 1208 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: He showed me his shoulder pressure once and I thought 1209 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: my jaw was gonna shatter into a million pieces. It 1210 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: was so painful. I couldn't believe how fucking hard it was. Right, 1211 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 1: So you can so And that's what when imagine I 1212 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: think he's even smaller than me, So imagine someone like 1213 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: fucking Francis being on top of you. You know, it 1214 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: must be hard as shit just to get that underhook. 1215 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: And like you know, I was telling you before, where 1216 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: would you rather be the inside guy or the outside guy? 1217 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 1: If you're sitting up, you got the underhook and you 1218 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: got your head underneath. But those guys can lean on 1219 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 1: you and then they can break your spine down, so 1220 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: you don't have that pressure to keep up. And it's heavy, 1221 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,160 Speaker 1: and it fucking sucks. But the thing that someone showed 1222 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: me one time if you've never trained, you can't appreciate this. 1223 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: You can try it if you go to the gym 1224 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: the next time. Get him medicine ball. Put your hands 1225 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: behind your back, start on your knees to first put 1226 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: your chest on top of the medicine ball, and then 1227 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: try with your hands behind your back. We're using your 1228 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: feet walk around the medicine ball and then change directions 1229 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,479 Speaker 1: like dynamically move around it. And you might be asking 1230 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: like where should you be positioning with your chest relative 1231 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: to the medicine ball for this drill to make sense, 1232 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: And the answer is you need to press the medicine 1233 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: ball where it actually hurts the most, on your chest. 1234 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: This is actually a I want to say, a super 1235 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 1: painful drill, but it is an uncomfortable drill. It hurts 1236 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 1: because that position. While it is quite painful to you 1237 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: to do that drill, that is exactly the sweet spot 1238 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: where you are driving maximum force down on top of them. 1239 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: And it takes time to get the feel for that. 1240 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Where exactly do you go? Where do your grips need 1241 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: to be? Where do I like to grip Some people 1242 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: like to take their middle finger, go underneath someone's neck 1243 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: and then grab the armpit of the other guy and 1244 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 1: then pull that to them, Like all these things you 1245 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: got to figure out for you to do. But if 1246 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: you can get someone heavy who has done that work 1247 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: and is just a top control guy, shit, bro, you 1248 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: know you better call the fucking you better call the 1249 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: excavation crew. Where's Francis on the heavyweight goat list? Brian 1250 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Campbell believes will win like this, he can set himself 1251 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: up for a path towards goat but he's not quite 1252 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 1: there yet, even though he did beat step A and 1253 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Babo and then beating Gon is just extremely impressive. I 1254 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 1: don't know on the journeys. I think we'll know when 1255 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: we get there, but we're not quite there yet. Does 1256 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: it make sense now if Francis and the UFC makeup 1257 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: to run it back with step A? Is that is 1258 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: that where the market is? Or is the market with 1259 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 1: the John Jones fight? Like I tweeted about it before 1260 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 1: the fight, how I couldn't believe how I knew Steve 1261 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: would not be the focus of discussions around this week 1262 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: or about the possibilities of what was going to be 1263 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,719 Speaker 1: in the future. Okay, fair enough, but he was fucking 1264 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: invisible in discussions which I thought was strange and but 1265 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,600 Speaker 1: but but telling, I think the fan base kind of 1266 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: sour on him a little bit, to be honest with you, 1267 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: so uh, not like as a person, but as somebody 1268 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: who like they're they're clamoring to see does anyone want 1269 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 1: to watch the next Serial Gone fight? You know, this 1270 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: wasn't his most dynamic offensive display, but you know he's 1271 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: got some some good ones. Should Gon's leg kicks where 1272 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: he had zero power on them count for anything? They 1273 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: count for Gone in the sense that he is setting 1274 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: things up with them, He's he's doing them to elicit 1275 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: either a reaction or to set something else up. So 1276 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: for him they have value. Is what you're saying is 1277 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 1: should the judges heavily as a strike that does damage? No? 1278 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: What is left for Francis at heavyweight? If John Jones 1279 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get the ten mil he wants to fight Francis, Well, 1280 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: John's not going to get the ten mil he wants 1281 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: to fight Francis. Although I, despite my many differences with 1282 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 1: John Jones, and they are a plenty, I'd certainly agree 1283 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 1: he does deserve ten million and a lot more than 1284 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: that for his fights. Yeah, I don't know, I don't 1285 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,759 Speaker 1: I don't really know. This is why a potential boxing 1286 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 1: match versus Fury, I'm like, oh, I don't want to 1287 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 1: see that now, bullfucking shit. If they can make that happen, 1288 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 1: that would do Gangbusters. How similar is Gon's run to 1289 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: the title end defeat compared to and Gon who's lost 1290 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 1: to Miochich in terms of rookie mistakes and improvements in 1291 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 1: a potential rematch, I would say Gone is much further 1292 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 1: along in terms of overall fighter development, but the narrative 1293 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,839 Speaker 1: parallels certainly appear to be there in some kind of fashion. 1294 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: And the one thing I will say, though, is Francis 1295 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 1: is excuse Francis. Francis is Francis stumbled a little bit 1296 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: against Derek Lewis, but the larger story is quite clear. 1297 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 1: He has he has righted the ship and really revolutionized himself. 1298 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: I think sirra Gon doesn't need a revolution, but he 1299 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: does need an evolution, and so we'll see if he 1300 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 1: can get that. Would the results have been different if 1301 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Francis did not have a torn acl meaning would he 1302 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 1: have KOed Gone? He may may maybe because he maybe 1303 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: it would have been it would have pursued more hard 1304 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: to say a lot of questions about John Jones. Is 1305 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: it eerie how Gon looked lost on the ground like 1306 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,640 Speaker 1: Francis did in the first fight. Again, dude, Gon did 1307 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: not look nearly as lost on the ground as Francis did. 1308 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: He looked lost on the ground in a in a 1309 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: similar way. Relatively speaking, Gon is way ahead even as bat. 1310 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,839 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how bad it was like for Francis 1311 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 1: at the time, he was well out of his depth. 1312 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Gon's got already more tools than that. But but he 1313 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 1: has some stuff to work on for sure. Yeah, more 1314 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: questions like does John Jones have more confidence? He probably does, 1315 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: Probably does. It's hard, It's hard to know what. But again, 1316 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: I still the one thing I'll just maintain with John 1317 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,640 Speaker 1: Jones is he did leave light heavyweight as at the 1318 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: moment that I believe the division was catching up and 1319 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 1: then about ready to pass him. I do believe that 1320 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 1: maybe they'd still be kind of at nipping at his 1321 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 1: heels a little bit. But like, first of all, I 1322 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 1: thought Dominic Ray has beat him, you know, I thought 1323 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 1: Dominic Rays beat him Farren square, quite honestly, I thought 1324 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 1: Texas really fucked that up for Dominic Now obviously, Dominic 1325 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 1: then lost to Yan and the yean blah blah blah. 1326 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: We get the story. And you know, you know, do 1327 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: I think John could beat Glover to er, Yes, of 1328 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: course I do. But uh and he already has. But 1329 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: but I kind of thought the division was catching up 1330 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: with him, and so the move I thought was smart 1331 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: on John's part because in general, heavyweight won't be as 1332 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 1: difficult as light heavyweight in certain athletic respects. I don't 1333 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 1: think the division is as good. However, you got these 1334 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: two guys at the top, so that's where it gets 1335 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of complicated and interesting. John says he wants to 1336 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 1: come in at two seventy. The guys John's got in 1337 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 1: his corners, like you know, Brandy Gibson, great striking coach. 1338 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you Stan Efferdin, the Rhino dude. 1339 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: Stan Efferdeen's a fucking beast. I have a very high 1340 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,479 Speaker 1: opinion of Stan Effertein. I think he is, you know, smart. 1341 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I think he is one of the guys who really 1342 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 1: understands what works in the gym, what athletes need, how 1343 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 1: to correct that for them. Like, he's got good people 1344 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 1: around him, man, So we'll see, we'll see. I will say, 1345 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've been a little bit pooh pooing John's thing. 1346 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 1: To wrap up here on the point, the one thing 1347 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 1: I will maintain is that I do think the idea 1348 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 1: of like preordained greatness is still like as automatic, is 1349 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: still just premature. I still think it is very much 1350 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,719 Speaker 1: worth being like, let's see what the John Jones heavyweight 1351 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: experiment looks like. But fair enough, some of the concerns 1352 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: about what we think we might have or what we 1353 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: were going to encounter upon his return, some of those 1354 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 1: concerns appear maybe a little bit unfounded. As impressive as 1355 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 1: in God who's performance was tonight? Can we agree boxing 1356 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 1: would be a terrible idea for him? Well? If he 1357 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 1: had KOed Cyril in the first round, would he have 1358 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 1: had any better of a chance against Tyson Fury? Do 1359 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury? You would do terrible things to him. I 1360 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,920 Speaker 1: actually walk away with this having a better feeling about 1361 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 1: his boxing, because he at least was able to be 1362 01:14:48,920 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 1: disciplined about targeting. Again, questions about the goat, What I 1363 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 1: think of Henry's tattoo. I didn't see it, so it 1364 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 1: says I had gone one, two and five. I think 1365 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: that's fair. The slam was insane so it says Gone 1366 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: should have got that decision. Francis was basically laying on 1367 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 1: top of Gone. Yeah again, I think forty nine forty 1368 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: six is ridiculous. I agree, I don't. I don't see 1369 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,839 Speaker 1: four rounds for Francis. I think he won the fight rightfully, 1370 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: but I don't think he won four of them. No, 1371 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 1: do you think UFC was happy with Rogan mentioning boxing? 1372 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: They might have asked him to do it, To be 1373 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,719 Speaker 1: honest with you, for headlines for ESPN's sake, like they're often, 1374 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not telling them, I'm not suggesting they tell him 1375 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: what to do. I don't. I don't think that's I 1376 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 1: don't think anyone tells him what to do, but they 1377 01:15:50,640 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 1: are suggestive. Yes, Ariel said. Some body from a Vegas 1378 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 1: area code texted this to Francis this morning. I'm pretty 1379 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 1: sure we all know who sent this. Is that real? 1380 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:28,879 Speaker 1: That can't be real, That can't be real, That cannot 1381 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 1: be real. Is that fucking real? That cannot be real? 1382 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Holy shit, it is real? Wow. Well, this is from 1383 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 1: his manager, Marcel Martin. I'm sorry for sort of like 1384 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: mouth breathing on the air. Someone. This is the manager 1385 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,840 Speaker 1: of Frances ENGHN so someone with a seven oh two 1386 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: area code. He doesn't say who the number is blocked out, 1387 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: but for seven oh two, which suggests Las Vegas. Quote. 1388 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: Let's see who gets the last word after tonight. I'm 1389 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 1: just gonna read what it says, you dumb black bitch. 1390 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 1: This is the quote. The fact that Francis would ever 1391 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 1: listen to you lets you know how much of a 1392 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: dumb piece of shit he is. Two after this, you 1393 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 1: will go back to selling suits at Nordstrum. You fucking moron. Wow. 1394 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 1: I don't know who sent that, but that is uh Jesus, 1395 01:17:53,360 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: that is fucking terrible. Wow. Okay, well uh uh on 1396 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: that note, Jesus, that is awful. Thank you so much 1397 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 1: for watching. Thumbs up on this. There'll be a morning 1398 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 1: combat on Monday, and uh yeah, what'd you guys think? 1399 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 1: What was the standout thing to you? What did you 1400 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 1: agree with what I said? Would you disagree with what 1401 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: I said? Post a comment let me know? And uh yeah, 1402 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 1: you want to email me, you can email me Luke 1403 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Thomasnews at gmail dot com. It's two thirty in the morning, 1404 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 1: and with that, bitches, it's time to get some sleep.