1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Tuesday, the full teenth of November here 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: in London. This is the Blueberg Daybreak you at podcast. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hipkick and. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today Cameron's second act. The 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: former Prime Minister returns to government, but will you be 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: weighed down by his political baggage. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Biden and g do some fentanyl diplomacy and agree a 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: deal to crack down on opioid production. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: And JP Morgan's top strategist, Marko Kolanovitch calls on traders 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: to fate stocks and bonds for commodities. 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Brittie Sunach is appointed the former Prime Minister David Cameron 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: as Foreign Secretary in an extraordinary cabinet reshuffle after a 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: day of high drama and downing Street. Cameron takes over 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: from James Cleverly, who's now Home Secretary after Suella Braverman 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: was sacked. Speaking at the Lord Mayor's Banquet in the 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: City of London, Sounach so to put a positive spin 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: on the changes. 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: We've delivered one of the most significant years for British 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: foreign policy in recent times. That's due in no small 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: part to James cleverly and I'm pleased to have appointed 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: a new Foreign Secretary who will build on everything that 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: we have achieved in the last year. 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: Surprise return of David Cameron is a gamble for SUNAC 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: as he tries to overturn a twenty point deficit in 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: the Polls. Labour says Cameron's been brought back as a 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: life draft for the Prime minister. However, Conservative Peter Michael 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Haseltein says the decision will quote put to bed the 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: right wing lurch of the Tory Party. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Well, the shock decision to bring back David Cameron has 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: conservatives from across the party telling Bloomberg that they're now 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: on shore of sunac's political direction. Cameron was subject of 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: a controversy in twenty twenty one when it emerged that 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: he had aggressively lobbied the government on behalf of the 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: now defunct Green Silk Capital. However, Cameron notably swerved the 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: subject when asked about it after his appointment. 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think all those things were dealt with by 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: the Treasury Select Committee and as far as I'm concerned, 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: that is all dealt with and in the past, and 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: I now have one job as Britain's Foreign Secretary as 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: part of Richie's Senac's team to try and make sure 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: this country can be as secure and as prosperous in 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: a difficult and dangerous world. 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: Cameron's previous views on foreign policy may also prove problematic. 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: He was notably warm towards China during his premiership, whilst 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: his support for remaining in the EU led to his 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: resignation after the twenty sixteen Brexit referendum. 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is stepping up the pressure on Israel to 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: reduce civilian casualties in Gaza. The US President says the 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: Al Shifa hospital quote must be protected, calling for Israel 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: to take less intrusive action. Speaking to Bloomberg, Israel's economy 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: minister Near Barkat insisted his country is also determined to 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: minimize collateral damage. 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: And so entering Gaza focusing on the militants that are 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: by the way using the hostages as human shields. It's 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 5: a challenge, so we're taking our time. You want to 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 5: make sure that we only hit the militants and enable 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: the people to leave the northern part of Gaza. 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Near Barcas was speaking to Bloomberg after AID agencies, and 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: GAZA warns that their work will effectively cease in the 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: next two days due to a lack of fuel. 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: China and the United States are set to jointly crack 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: down on fentanyl in a diplomatic coup for Joe Biden. 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg has learnt the President and jijingpin will announce a 65 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: deal when they meet at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Summit tomorrow. The San Francisco mayor London Breed is hosting 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: the summit. She told Bloomberg what the deal could mean. 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: The resources that are being sent out of China that 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 6: come into either the US or Mexico are cut off 70 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 6: to the fullest extent possible. That we work together in 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 6: order to ensure that this deadly poison that is killing 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 6: people in San Francisco in significant numbers and all over 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 6: the country, that we're able to combat this to stop it. 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Breeze City is one of many devastated by the drug. 75 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Republicans have made the Biden administration's failure to crack down 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: on fentanyl a campaign issue. 77 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is taking aim at Moody's 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: pessimism on the American economy. The ratings agency shifted its 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: outlook on the US Triple A credit rating to negative, 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: citing budget deficits and political instability. The response from the 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: American government's top financial official didn't hold back. 82 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 7: This is a decision that I disagree with. The American 83 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 7: economy is fundamentally strong, and treasury securities remain the world's 84 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 7: pre eminent safe and liquid ACCID Johnett. 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Yellen's comments come despite Moody's being the only major ratings 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: agency to still give the US a top score fit 87 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: down Grater the government earlier this year and the SMP 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: in twenty eleven. 89 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: One of Wall Street's most respected strategists has warned clients 90 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: against investing in the stock market. Bloomberg's tiwa Adebayo has more. 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 8: JP Morgan's chief market strategist, Marko Kolanovich says investors should 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 8: ditch stocks in favor of commodities. A client note reveals 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 8: that the bank is staying underweight in equities in favor 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 8: of cash and commodities. The JP Morgan strategist is using 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 8: a cut in bond allocation to fund an increase in commodities, 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 8: where he's most optimistic on energy. Klanovitch believes that equities 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 8: will soon become unattractive as the Fed's higher for longer 98 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 8: strategy continues. The note comes as Bloomberg Economics says it 99 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 8: expects today's US inflation report to show slower progress towards 100 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 8: the Fed's two percent target, keeping the central bank bias 101 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 8: towards more tightening. In London, I'm tiwa Adebio Bloomberg Radio. 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Now to the politics in the UK, which she soon 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: act brought back former Premier David Cameron as the Foreign Secretary. 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: The shock move bringing a baut the leader who called 105 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: the Brexit referendum but campaigned against leaving the EU, has 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: led conservatives from across the party to question at Sunak's 107 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: political direction. Joining us now for more is Bloomberg's EMEA 108 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: News Desk Managing Editor Adam Blenford. Good morning, Adam, Thank 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: you so much for your time. There is a long 110 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: list of questions that many journalist, perhaps some MPs also 111 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: have for David Cameron on Brexit, China, Libya and lobbying. 112 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Is Cameron going to be bogged down justifying his own legacy? 113 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 9: Good morning, Caroline. Well, journalists will of course ask the questions. 114 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: As you said, there are. 115 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 9: Several topics, but that the past is that Sinak and 116 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 9: Cameron will very much want to look to the current situation. 117 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 9: The media will no doubt focus on those perhaps unfinished 118 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 9: bits of business from David Cameron's past, but there is 119 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 9: plenty going on in the world today, as we all 120 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 9: know every day, and so the intro for the UK 121 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 9: Foreign Secretary is exceedingly long, ranging of course, from the 122 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 9: ongoing wars in the Middle East and Russia's war against 123 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 9: Ukraine to relations with China, which will be complicated by 124 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 9: perhaps Cameron's ongoing and previous links with the country that 125 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 9: perhaps could be the most interesting and most thorny of 126 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 9: the issues that he's facing. Brexit is and remains a 127 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 9: bit of a lightning rod for division, but it is 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 9: something that has now faded slightly into the past. Certainly 129 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 9: the rights and wrongs of whether we call calling the 130 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 9: referendum on how it went is now does feel not? 131 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 8: Does it not? Quite? 132 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 9: Quite a long time ago? So it would be very 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 9: interesting to see. Of course, not long ago Richie Seen 134 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 9: posted himself as the change candidate, and then of course 135 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 9: he's brought back David Cameron to how much can David 136 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 9: Cameron bring the change the Foreign Office. 137 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: Well, it was, as you say, Adam, quite the surprise 138 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: when we first learned about this yesterday. Let's take a 139 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: listen to some of the coverage as David Cameron emerged 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: outside Downing Street. 141 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: I was not expecting. 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: Okay, what we've just seen would mean a place in 143 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: the House. 144 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: The Foreign Secretary could. 145 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 9: Be David Cameron, Lord Cameron Foreign Sector Camp, can it? 146 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: Well, that was coverage from Sky News as David Cameron 147 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: emerged as the Foreign Secretary. Adam, what does this show 148 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: about Rishie Sunak's leadership that he's made this decision to 149 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: bring back David Cameron. Former Cabinet Minister Reese Mark raises 150 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: the issue of the Conservatives being in danger of losing 151 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: votes to the refeign Party. 152 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 9: Sunak will of course portray this as him being strong. 153 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 9: He will of course show this as his attempt to 154 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 9: make it clean break with what was becoming a distraction 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 9: the the the policies and public statements of Suella Bradman 156 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 9: and her her pushing back against the Number ten's authority. 157 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 9: But you're absolutely right bringing back somebody who's who's had 158 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 9: his time in the public eye, was a divisive figure 159 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 9: in his own way and certainly doesn't look directly completely 160 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 9: to the future. It's it's already dividing the Conservatives, or 161 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 9: at least some of the right more right wing media 162 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 9: are pretend attempting to say that it's dividing the Conservatives. 163 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 9: The Daily Telegraph this morning says that the Camera's appointment 164 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 9: is opening up a backlash and threatens of backlash with 165 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 9: Entry Breggs, a teer MPs and a backlash from the right. 166 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 9: And so there's debates around that you're right to highlight 167 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 9: Jacob Briece Mobb, but the proof, as they always say, 168 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 9: will be in the pudding. You know, the Reform Party 169 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 9: might be prompted to stand more candidates in a general 170 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 9: election which is coming up in the coming year, and 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 9: it perhaps changes a little bit of the electoral calculus. 172 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 9: How does Cameron, the old Etonian former Prime Minister who 173 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 9: opposed Brexit, how does he speak to the red wall, 174 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 9: although as protector it's not particularly his job, but in 175 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 9: terms of the Conservative Party as a whole, perhaps he 176 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 9: could hold He could shore up support within the southern 177 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 9: Conservative constituencies in the south of England where they've been 178 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 9: under pressure from the Liberal Democrats and they've lost quite 179 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 9: a significant number of by elections in recent times, so 180 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 9: it's a really interesting, really interesting prospect. 181 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is Cameron back after being away from 182 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: frontline politics for seven years. Of course, it means no 183 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: women in leadership roles in government right now, not the 184 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: big four most senior positions in cabinet. Totally fascinating. Adam, 185 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this morning. Bloomberg's 186 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: EMEA Newsdesk Managing Editor Adam Blendford. 187 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: Well, let's turn to the markets next and JP Morgan 188 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Chase Stratus. Marco Kalanovitz continues to see risks in the 189 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: stock market. He's in recommending investors fade this year's rally, 190 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: seeing equities reverting back to a quote unattractive risk reward 191 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: as the FED set to marine higher for longer. Joining 192 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: US stats Scott Spinberg, Television niker Anna Edwards. Morning to you, Anna, 193 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: Why is Marco Klalovitch turning outative stocks? 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 10: Good morning, Stephen and Caroline. Yes, he's talking about fading 195 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 10: this rally, And just to paint a picture for radio 196 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 10: listeners during October that was a terrible month for US 197 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 10: stocks and the November's been pretty good. So we've been 198 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 10: seeing this bounce taking place in stocks, and he's saying, 199 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 10: you fade this rally. He gives a whole host of reasons, 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 10: and I'll briefly mention some of them. The FED staying 201 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 10: higher for longer is one of them. So higher interest 202 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 10: rates from the Fed. There are divided opinions out there 203 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 10: about that, but he sees higher for longer and that 204 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 10: puts pressure on any business model that relies on low 205 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 10: interest rates. He talks about profit expectations being too optimistic, 206 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 10: businesses losing their pricing power. That's the other side of course, 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 10: inflation coming down. We've seen inflation coming down in lots 208 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 10: of geographies, and the other side of that is that 209 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 10: companies aren't able to achieve the margins they've previously made. 210 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 10: And then there's a couple of arguments he makes that 211 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 10: are to do with market dynamics, if you like. One 212 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 10: of them is momentum strategies, which basically means computers that 213 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 10: spot what was happening and say, well, that was happening, 214 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 10: maybe that will carry on happening, and just buy that stuff. 215 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 10: So he says that a lot of the rally that 216 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 10: we've seen in November has been driven by these momentum 217 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 10: strategies and shortcovering another market dynamic. And so as a 218 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 10: result of all of that, he says, fade this stock rally. 219 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: Really interesting. He's got a number of points of why 220 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: that should be. But Klonovitch himself is well known for 221 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: sort of making these significant Cause what's he been saying 222 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: about markets. 223 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 8: Up to now? 224 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 10: Yeah, so JP Morgan Chase strategist. This is Marko Kolanovitch, 225 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 10: much quoted in Bloomberg News copy and by other investors 226 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 10: watch closely by their investors. He was one of Wall 227 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 10: Street's biggest optimists during twenty twenty two, and that didn't 228 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 10: always work out so well for him. He reversed his 229 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 10: view on many of those calls last year when they 230 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 10: weren't working out. And he's cut his equity allocation actually 231 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 10: in mid December, in January, in March. 232 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: And in May. 233 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 10: It's all of that due to the deteriorating economic outlook 234 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 10: this year. So he's already been sort of taking a 235 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 10: knife to his equity allocation, and here he is doing 236 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 10: it a little more by suggesting we fade this at 237 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 10: this current rally, so. 238 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: Reducing exposure to stucks, but more optimistic on oil. 239 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 10: Why is that, Yeah, absolutely, so overweight then on commodities 240 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 10: and oil is a big part of that. Also overweight 241 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 10: on cash, So the oil side of things. He says, 242 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 10: we've seen a recent pullback in oil prices. Of course 243 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 10: they spiked up around the tensions in the Middle East, 244 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 10: but they've actually pulled back a little bit, so he 245 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 10: sees potential for them to rise. He sees oil, as 246 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 10: many people do, as a geopolitical hedge. So it's come 247 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 10: off a period where it was used as an inflation 248 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 10: hedge for many people. So if you're going to be 249 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 10: hurt by inflation, on the one hand, you might benefit 250 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 10: from the higher oil price. Well, here he is talking 251 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 10: about it as a geopolitical hedge, So geopolitics might play 252 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 10: bad for you for many of your assets, but it 253 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 10: might be that oil prices benefit and'suggesting that that could 254 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 10: be an area of strength. He also says overweight cash. 255 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 10: But there in mind, cash isn't what we think of cash. 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 10: When they don't mean boxes under the bed, they mean 257 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 10: they mean in bank accounts, in money market funds, in 258 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 10: short duration treasuries, So cash and cash equivalents things that 259 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 10: are easy to access. 260 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: Okay, Anna Edwards and your boxes of cash, thank you 261 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: very much for joining us. Thank you Ray this morning 262 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: into of course, that we're having that conversation on a 263 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: day when market's very much focused on the USCPI report 264 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: due out later on, again expected to show progress towards 265 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: the federal reserves two percent targets Bimberck Economics. They'll sees 266 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: the Fed keeping its bias towards more tightening. So we're 267 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: looking at the year on year rate being unchanged at 268 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: four point one percent according to our economists, but the 269 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: end of the food excluding food and energy core number 270 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: being zero point three percent games for the second straight 271 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: month in October, So the downward trajectory being maintained. But 272 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: this this issue of what it actually means and whether 273 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: it kind of changes the game for the FED doesn't 274 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: like this print is expected to do so. 275 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: No, but the year on years of slow grind lower 276 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: is perhaps a good thing. Look after all of that 277 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: sort of serious politics and markets chatter, I do think 278 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: that we've got a point to your attention to possibly 279 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: the best read on the Bloomberg terminal. How much do 280 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: you think you'd pay for a vintage Ferrari race car? 281 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: Oh well, I think if I was in New York yesterday, 282 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: I'd be much poorer this morning anyway. By the sounds 283 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: of things. 284 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Nine on fifty two million dollars at auction for nineteen 285 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: sixty two Ferrari. It's certainly a very special one. 286 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: Special because it actually raced in the twenty four hours 287 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: of Aman race in nineteen sixty two, which is part 288 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: of kind of Ferrari's legacy when it came to their 289 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: racing team as well. So that's it's one of these 290 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: very particular gto examples that was used in one of 291 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: their and one of their races too. This is Bloomberg 292 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: Daybreak Europe. 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