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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Zaren Hey, I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: How are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well refreshed.

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Speaker 3: Are you awake?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally look at me awake. Yeah, my eyes are awake.

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Speaker 3: I'm not listen pow, but listen, old bean. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Oh girl, do I it's a little navel gaisy, but

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, yeah, I can't read apparently. Oh really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous either. It's really late in my life to

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Speaker 2: learn that I can't read. But I can't read because

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Speaker 2: last week I was telling you about those baseball players

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Speaker 2: look exactly alike, okay, right, and the red Gingers and

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Speaker 2: their name, last name was Figel. I got that part right.

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Speaker 2: First name not Brad. What is Brady? Apparently? I read

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Speaker 2: enough letters like brad Borough whatever, you know, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I call him Brah so he is. I apologize to

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Speaker 2: both the Brady Figles.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and they're notwhere, not all of them.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of bigod exemptions. You know who you are,

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Speaker 2: you know what you did.

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Speaker 3: They're days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. And then also one of

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Speaker 2: our listeners, cat named Richard Moore, wrote in and said,

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Speaker 2: uh that you know when Sara tells Elizabeth a bunch

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Speaker 2: of ridiculous in this episode about that one. Did those

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Speaker 2: two minor league ballplayers ever get their respective parents together

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Speaker 2: just for fun?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, not that way. I think like to have them

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Speaker 2: like sorted out, like where were you on that night?

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Speaker 3: You know? But genetically they're not the same, right they said,

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Speaker 3: what if it's like but yeah, get the parents together

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Speaker 3: and find out if it's like some sort of government.

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Speaker 2: Experiences are I was like the idea that God only

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Speaker 2: has so many faces and just like I got here,

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Speaker 2: you go, you get the there you go.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous. That is ridiculous. Do you want to know what

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Speaker 3: else is ridiculous? Yes? Please filming cameos?

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Speaker 2: What what.

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Speaker 4: This is?

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous? Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous caper's hes

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Speaker 3: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free. And

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Speaker 3: you know what ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: I know you heard that you did?

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Speaker 3: Sweet baby hotcakes? Have I got one for you? Today's

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Speaker 3: are really my goodness, especially sweet ones. Con artists scammer. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love con artists. Yes, And part of the thing

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Speaker 3: about them is that they're always they're shameless. Yes, they

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Speaker 3: will say absolutely whatever it takes to get what they want.

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Speaker 2: To move forward.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, here is a case study in just that.

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Speaker 3: Really like saying what people want to hear, knowing an

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Speaker 3: audience and working it and then being super audacious in

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Speaker 3: how you take and use the scammed money and power.

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Speaker 2: Huh So this is like a Mount Rushmore level scammer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I should not, but I love this guy.

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Speaker 2: Ooh conflict.

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Speaker 3: He's terrible and I deeply, deeply disagree with him about

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Speaker 3: pretty much everything.

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Speaker 2: That's what I feel about Pablo Escobar, right. See, I

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Speaker 2: have a begrudging respect for him. He's horrible, horrendous. I

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Speaker 2: would never say and stand by anything he's ever done.

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Speaker 2: I would apologize anything to anyone who's ever hurt, but

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Speaker 2: I will still sit there and go I love the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's an idea.

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Speaker 3: He he's so entertaining and he's so messy, and his

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Speaker 3: wings have been clipped, so he's not the danger that

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Speaker 3: he once was.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Saren, I want.

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Speaker 3: To tell you all about disgraced former congress person George Sam.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. We're going there. We're going there. We're

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Speaker 2: going to the mountaint. You're taking to the.

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Speaker 3: Mountain, Santos baby, I want to.

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Speaker 2: Tell you I was already getting rare.

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Speaker 3: Okay. He was born George Anthony Devald Santos July twenty second,

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Divald. So he really is Brazilian. Got one of them

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Speaker 2: German names. Slid in there, sneaky in Queen's.

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Speaker 3: He was born in Queens.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's his family is spider Man's from there, Peterborough.

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Speaker 3: His family's from Brazil. As you said, they're all immigrants

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Speaker 3: They took hard jobs. His mom was a housekeeper, cook, nanny.

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Speaker 3: His dad was one of your people, a house painter.

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Speaker 3: The earth folks. Right. His childhood was rough. They were

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Speaker 2: The cowboys of construction.

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Speaker 3: Right. They lived in terrible conditions in Jackson Heights, Queen's.

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Speaker 3: But his mom did everything that she could to still

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Speaker 3: get George, Like the little things that would make him

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Speaker 3: scrape together make sure he had like nice Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: his dad took off, but his mom just kept plugging away,

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Speaker 3: like doing the best for her two kids. He has

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Speaker 3: a sister. So this hard scrabble life put George in

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Speaker 3: positions of having to make choices like to be truthful

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Speaker 2: Ah, those types of choices to crime.

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Speaker 3: Or not to cryme ah. Yes, yeah, and he didn't

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Speaker 3: always make the right choices, No, our Georgie, our little Georgie.

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Speaker 3: In my research, it became apparent that George told the

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Speaker 3: world lies, created falsehoods that were just the life that

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Speaker 2: Oh so he's a fabulous of his own telling. He's

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Speaker 2: not trying to impress you, He's trying to almost impress

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Speaker 2: himself exactly.

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Speaker 3: And it seems it seems like he almost couldn't control himself,

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Speaker 3: like he lied about everything, and he uses and use

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Speaker 2: Okay, he has no relationship to truth? Is that none

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Speaker 3: Him, right, and even then then he's like, no, that's

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Speaker 2: Like he did.

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Speaker 3: He didn't graduate from high school. He got a ged,

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Speaker 3: but he told everyone that he went to this really

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Speaker 3: he did not.

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Speaker 2: It seems like it's small enough and be hard to

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Speaker 3: Well, and then the thing is, though, is it like

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Speaker 3: even when faced with all this evidence, when people are like,

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Speaker 3: we went through one hundred and twenty eight years of

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Speaker 3: Divulder like, yeah, you're not a time traveler. No iterations

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Speaker 2: What's the problem? Talk to them about theeper.

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Speaker 3: So he would tell tales about his mom being this

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Speaker 2: Actually a major Democratic donor.

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Speaker 3: No, she she just was like not politically. She had

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Speaker 3: He said that she was like this high powered financier

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Speaker 2: Wow. So she was close enough for him to observe

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Speaker 3: That's exactly it he said. He graduated from Baruk College

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Speaker 3: super he was like flamboyant guy. He is a flamboyant guy.

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Speaker 3: He married as a young young man. He married a

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Speaker 2: So it worked out for both of them. Yeah, glationship

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Speaker 3: Wasn't out per se, he just wasn't telling. But he

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Speaker 2: It wasn't actual. There was no romance. He's not like, okay, no.

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Speaker 3: But so he went back and forth to Brazil to

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Speaker 3: participated in this absolutely raucous Pride celebration in drag And

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Speaker 3: there's this book called The Fabuloust, which is interesting. You

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Speaker 3: should you know, describe him as such by Mark Chuisano.

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Speaker 3: It's all about George sure, and in it the author

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Speaker 3: and restrictions. He revels in this permissive, affirming culture, just

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Speaker 3: Santos's hand skimming smoothly across the semi bare chest of

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful night in Knitroy. It is a beautiful

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Speaker 3: time to be uninhibited, to be alive. So you have

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Speaker 3: this young guy living it up best life. This will

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Speaker 3: come back to haunt him later, but in that moment,

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Speaker 3: he's living it up. No responsibilities, just dreams. But so

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Speaker 3: many contradictions. Like he was doing drag quite a bit then,

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Speaker 2: Was he really at boy in those big drag places.

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Speaker 3: That I don't know if that was, but I know

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Speaker 3: that there are people in Brazil who confirm, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: he brought like expensive materials from New York down to

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Speaker 3: you know, posts on social media about how there are

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Speaker 2: Pretty far in the needle fliph.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is his whole family were big Bolscenaro

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Speaker 2: I could see that Latin American politicis he was, even

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Speaker 3: But it's the kind of contradiction we'll see a lot

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Speaker 3: of with George.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their idea of conservative politics hasn't quite a line

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Speaker 2: with ours, you know. I mean, it may seem like it,

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Speaker 2: but it's a different but like the you know, No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to not excusing Bolsonaro or saying that

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Speaker 2: he's not I'm saying, but I mean that the people

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Speaker 3: He's back in New York. He keeps plugging along. He

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Speaker 2: Oh so they're all George Santa. He got a job

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty Democrat, yeah, exactly, district.

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Speaker 3: So this is just like this is kamikaze mission.

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Speaker 2: So George, somebody had to run.

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Speaker 3: Why why not me? So George, he runs on this

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Speaker 3: pushed like this amazing background he'd created for himself. He's

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Speaker 3: He's not the guy who struggled and worked in call centers. No,

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Speaker 3: He said that as a finance bro he lost four

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, if it's a tragedy, he's attaching himself.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. He said that he ran an animal rescue

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Speaker 2: Wow. Did he lose both of his parents and two

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Speaker 3: Well? Is there? So he said all these things. No

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Speaker 2: He was not going hard federal election.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. Oh wow, not going hard on all his

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Speaker 3: big baller Wall Street claims. At this point, his campaign

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Speaker 3: Election night, November third, twenty twenty, votes are tallied, he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I would have thought it's been like twenty

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Speaker 3: Are like, wait, we may have a fighting chance for

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Speaker 3: Did you did you know that he went to Trump's

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to go ahead and say no, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you know I told you I disagree with

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Speaker 3: So I told the local press, like they they barely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to win.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats did no OPO.

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Speaker 2: Research on again, why I waste my money safe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so his secrets never came out at this and

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Speaker 3: then come to find out, redistricting slightly changed New York's

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, and between twenty twenty and twenty

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Speaker 2: Dude, I was reading some about George Santos on the break.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that he invented the Corvette Lasagna

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, George Santos. George Santos. He lost, like we said,

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Speaker 3: Do you remember how he'd been working for Harbor City

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Speaker 2: The Devauter Group.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and although he was living in New York, the

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Speaker 2: Introduction consulting.

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Speaker 3: Show me the money firm.

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Speaker 2: I'll introduce the money. This is money money, say holo.

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Speaker 3: Hello. When he was eyeballing the new run in twenty

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, his reported personal income changed. None

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Speaker 3: That's a come up. Yeah, from fifty grand to that.

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Speaker 2: Look at him.

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Speaker 3: He said he was the sole owner and managing member

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Speaker 2: I get a job, George.

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Speaker 3: How many employees? How many employees do you think? He had?

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Speaker 2: Seven named George Santos.

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Speaker 3: That's right, zero, yeah, yeah. Fun fact. The company's mailing

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Speaker 3: Oh's cozy, so here we are. Twenty twenty two, George

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Speaker 3: Whe Where did it come from?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's see what money lined?

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Speaker 3: Shady. So with his campaign strategy.

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Speaker 2: Like that money was real, the seven hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: that wasn't an account that was like people saw it,

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Speaker 3: Paid, it's it's I don't think it was real. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if if you wanted to go buy

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Speaker 3: Don't think you can. I don't think you could buy

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't Who doesn't?

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Speaker 3: You know, he's still he stuck with I went to

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Speaker 2: Saving all the animals, twenty five hundred animals.

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Speaker 3: It'd like to be a successful, solid candidate in twenty

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Speaker 2: How do you I don't imagine you do? But like,

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Speaker 2: how does that work? Do you? Like give them a

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Speaker 2: ten percent of the cut and they let you come

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Speaker 2: in and run with.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be where like part of it goes

442
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Speaker 3: to the National Committee, and yeah, I think they take

443
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Speaker 3: a take a cut of it. He went hard on

444
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: a few issues, despite masking up and getting vaccinated himself.

445
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Speaker 3: He was anti mask and anti VAC. He called abortion

446
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: barbaric and compared it to slavery. Okay, He was against

447
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Speaker 3: any LGBTQ plus content in schools. He called that grooming.

448
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: Really yeah, He said police brutality was a quote made

449
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: up concept. He was anti Black Lives Matter, calling it Marxists,

450
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Speaker 3: and for the love of God, I wish that each

451
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Speaker 3: person who uses the term Marxist be required to actually

452
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: read Marx because it's so off the mark and infuriating anyway.

453
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: So he's like playing the Maga Greatest Hits for his constituents,

454
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Speaker 3: and they're eating it up, they're loving it. And he

455
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: looked around at fellow politicians and he saw that lying

456
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: didn't matter anymore.

457
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Speaker 2: It's just what you did.

458
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Speaker 3: This is from the book The Fabulous Quote. In the

459
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: Trump era, not only was there little penalty for conspiracy

460
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: mongering or outright lying, it could actually be a draw election.

461
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: Misinformation was just part of showing your colors, as Santos

462
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: had done quite publicly at the pre January sixth rally

463
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Speaker 3: in Freedom Plaza when he shouted to the crowd about

464
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: his election getting stolen. It became one of his favorite canards.

465
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: This habitual liar, there were many flavors. He could be

466
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: flippant about supposedly almost winning, or he might be very dire,

467
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: as when he claimed that he beat his twenty twenty

468
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Speaker 3: opponent on election night for fourteen days until the ballots

469
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: never stopped coming in. He said it on podcasts and

470
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: in public. He even touched on it to people posing

471
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Speaker 3: as Republicans, as when he told an undercover Democratic tracker

472
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: that yes, he quote wrote a nice check for a

473
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Speaker 3: law firm to help out some of the January sixth patriots.

474
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: Was it real? Who cares? Democrats clutch their pearls? But

475
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 3: the right wing loved it. The crazier he talked, the

476
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: more he aligned himself with Magaworld, and there were supporters

477
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Speaker 3: to be found there. It's just you know, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: It was just like all like it's not just transactional

479
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: but just straight up not in the monetary senti usury,

480
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Speaker 2: but usury in the sense of like, oh I can

481
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Speaker 2: do this is good for me. So even the crowd

482
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Speaker 2: that Magapara's doing like yeah, we'll take this gay Brazilian

483
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: dude becase he says hateful stuff against the people, say

484
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: hateful stuff, No, raise more money. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so, as with most campaigns, George his campaign commissioned

486
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: a vulnerability study and he was all about it, but like.

487
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: His own vulnerabilities. Yeah, but as it.

488
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Speaker 3: Was going on, he tried to cancel the contract. Like

489
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: they started up like Okay, we're going to work on it.

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00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: He's like, oh wait, hold on, hold on, you're finding

491
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: too much stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was for good reason because like, who buddy,

493
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: it was not good.

494
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: None of this is true.

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00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: Some of the staff was like, you got to drop

496
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: out of the race. It was that bad. So we

497
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: had like the fraudulent Academy.

498
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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you.

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Speaker 3: We're going to tell the involvement in a company running

500
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Speaker 3: a Ponzi scheme. He had multiple evictions, he had a

501
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Speaker 3: suspended driver's license, he was openly gay but married to

502
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Speaker 3: a woman in a possibly fraudulent green card marriage. His

503
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: team they called this emergency conference to like discuss the

504
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: results of the study, and they told George you have

505
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: a choice. You can step down from the race and

506
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Speaker 3: maintain your dignity. He's like, what dignity? Or you can

507
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: keep running. Give the Democrats the chance to put you

508
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: on blast and ruin you. And he was like, listen,

509
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: I'll get you all the diplomas that never happened, by

510
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: the way, and I'll think about what you've said here today.

511
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: I'm really going to think about it, sit.

512
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: On it for a bit. So then a couple days

513
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: later he comes back to the group and he's like,

514
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna stick with it. It's not

515
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: that bad, don't worry about it. And then most of

516
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: them quit on the spot. They're like, I want no

517
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: stink on me for name. Yeah. So like are swirling,

518
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: but his campaign just keeps chugging along, according to the

519
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: New York Times quote, Around that time, mister Santos began

520
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: attracting the suspicion of a pair of friends and potential

521
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 3: donors active in New York Republican circles. Mister Santos claimed

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Speaker 3: to one of them, Kristin Bianco, to have secured the

523
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 3: endorsement of former President Donald J. Trump when he had not.

524
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Speaker 3: That prompted her to express concerns about mister Santos to

525
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: plugged in Republicans, including a allociates of representative at least

526
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: Stephonic of New York, one of mister Santos's biggest early backers,

527
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: whose top political aid was assisting his campaign. Later, miss

528
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: Bianco and her friend became suspicious that they could not

529
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: verify his work history were just so tired of being duped.

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00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: Miss Bianco texted mister Santos in early twenty twenty two

531
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: after he refused her request to produce his resume. Mister

532
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: Santos wrote back that he found the request quote a

533
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: bit invasive, as it's something very personal. You're running for office,

534
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: and you're like, that's per I can't tell you my resume.

535
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: You put yourself here, sir, No one asked.

536
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: You the soon, like the Rays starts becoming more high

537
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: profile thanks to the redistricting, Oh right now, it was

538
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 3: too late for the Republican doubters to swap in someone solid,

539
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: and the Democrats they didn't have the time or the

540
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: money or the people power to do a deep dive

541
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: on George at least that's their excuse. So their opposition

542
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: research up a bunch of red flags, but they were

543
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: never chased down. And when they went to the press

544
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: with some of the red flags, they too said they

545
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: were short on time and resources to chase down the story.

546
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: Like that's great, but you know what, we got a

547
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: lot of other stuff or sorry, I have no one

548
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: in Ai hasn't come all the way into the newsroom yet,

549
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: So we have like one dude at a computer in

550
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: interviews and meetings, like he stuck to the lies from

551
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: the fore.

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00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: You have to that's the move.

553
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and again he said that his grandparents had

554
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: fled Jewish persecution during World War Two and he was

555
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: a proud American Jew. He claimed that he founded and

556
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: operated a tax exempt annimal rescue organization that just also

557
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: happened to not exist. He started talking about how he

558
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: owned multiple properties, but like records later show, he didn't

559
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: own any real estate. September of twenty.

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Speaker 2: Two, checked Minecraft, you know what, or like sims a

561
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: lot of places. They you got to think broadly.

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00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: September twenty twenty two, just before the election, the North

563
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 3: Shore Leader newspaper started looking into his history and they

564
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: reported on his employment and his financials. But it was

565
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: a small local paper, which is the backbone of journalism

566
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: in this country totally, and so no one paid attention.

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00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: When you said north Star, I'm like, why would the

568
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Hawaiian paper care about it? Was really that's raird for

569
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: local news. They're really expansive covering in the New York

570
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: third district.

571
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Speaker 3: So like, no one's looking it didn't have legs on

572
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: a bigger stage to get it thought. So George, he's

573
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: like riding that Republican momentum, loving it. This Republican surge

574
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: contributed to increased turnout and then all and that gave

575
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: support to down ballot candidates like Santos.

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00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: His voting are and they're like, okay, yeah, right down.

577
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: The ticket exactly. So the general election November eight, twenty

578
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: twenty two, Santos won the seat with fifty three point

579
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: seventy four percent of the vote. That's a lot, and

580
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: he beat this other guy, you know, forty six point

581
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: twenty two percent. So after the election, the press finally

582
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: picked up on the story that he was a straight

583
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: up liar.

584
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: Like once he's won after the fact, that's a big

585
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: move these days in politics.

586
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Uh huh. So December nineteenth, twenty twenty two, New York

587
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: Times reports on his lies. His lawyer denies everything, but

588
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: like the ball's rolling, George hadn't even been sworn in

589
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: yet and the press is just all over him. So

590
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: then New York Attorney General Letitia James, Oh yeah, she

591
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: announced an investigation had been opened due to his suspicious

592
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: financial dealings. December twenty sixth, twenty twenty two, he broke

593
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: his silence and he told the New York Post quote,

594
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Speaker 3: I'm not a fraud. I'm not a criminal who defrauded

595
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: the entire country and made up this fictional character and

596
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: ran for Congress that's exactly.

597
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: What you said. What you are just we couldn't say it.

598
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: So every day his opposite day with George, Oh my god,

599
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: every sounds. So he did tell the Post that he

600
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: didn't actually graduate from college. He's like, he got me

601
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: there and I didn't work for Goldman Sachs or City Group.

602
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: But like that's it.

603
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Those are the whole those are it?

604
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: Sure? George? Oh, and then like about being Jewish, he

605
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: said that during the campaign he was a quote proud

606
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: American Jew and also called himself a Latino Jew. But

607
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: George then like had to confirm, actually, I'm Catholic.

608
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: I'm a Catholic Jew.

609
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: And they're like, what are you trying to claim Jewish heritage.

610
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: He's like, no, no, no, see quote. I believe we are

611
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: all Jewish at the end because Jesus Christ is Jewish.

612
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: And if you believe in Jesus and we're all brothers

613
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: in Christ, I mean it just ends what I need.

614
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: During December argument for where they got more pizza and

615
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: like a sleep overnight and because we're all Jewish because

616
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: Jesus is Jewish and pizza.

617
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: Because December twenty sixth, twenty twenty two, he gives an interview,

618
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: and he said, quote, I never claimed to be Jewish.

619
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Speaker 3: I'm the Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had

620
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: a Jewish background, I said I was jew Ish. That

621
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: is top notch. He's jew Ish. It is so beautiful.

622
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: I think he'd been an old Andy Kindler line. I

623
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: think so.

624
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: He would later say that he had a DNA test

625
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: that confirmed his Jewish ancestry. But you aren't allowed to

626
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: see it. It's personal. Yeah, I can tell you what

627
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: you can because I'm you can't see the DNA, but

628
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: you know you can see zaren closure out. Yeah, I

629
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: want you to picture it.

630
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Speaker 2: I cannot wait.

631
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: It's January third, twenty twenty three. You are tech support

632
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: at the US Capitol Building. In fact, you're the director

633
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 3: of Audio Resources, meaning you make sure the microphones work.

634
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: The system is pretty good. You keep things tight. All

635
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: the wires are color coded and expertly breeded and organized.

636
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: You are behind the scenes of the House floor keeping

637
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: an eye on the mic system. The House of Representatives

638
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: is set to elect a new Speaker of the House.

639
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: Kevin McCarthy, the previous Minority leader, should be a shoe

640
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: in as soon as he's crowned. Speaker, then they can

641
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: start swearing in all the new members. You've heard rumbles

642
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: that Matt Gates and Marjorie Taylor Green, whom you refer

643
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: to as Beavis and butt Head, much to your staff's delight,

644
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: are up to something not surprising whatever. You just watch

645
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: the soundboard and adjust some gain dials, volume, reverb, pedal effects.

646
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: You'd have a crazy setup back there. So, looking out

647
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: over the source of the mumbled conversations with occasional laughs

648
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: and coughs punctuating the tense air, you peek out at

649
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: the floor and you watch his Gates and Taylor Green

650
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: huddle in confab with other representatives. McCarthy works the room,

651
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: shaking hands and padding backs, and then you see him

652
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: the big news item, George Santos. He looks so out

653
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: of place, so uncomfortable. He's tried to cozy up to

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00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: Gates and Taylor Green and standing just beyond their orbit.

655
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Speaker 3: He looks like a scared, nerdy kid at his first

656
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: day at a new high school, trying to befriend the

657
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: school bullies. But now he sits alone. You have no

658
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: inclination to warn him or feel any sense of pity

659
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: or care. See you take Washington and the federal government. Seriously,

660
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: this is sacred ground. Your belief is in this great

661
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: country of ours, this beautiful experiment. You revere this building

662
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: and the history it holds, both good and bad. You

663
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: can live in the discomfort of shameful past and political disagreements,

664
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: but you can't live in the discomfort of watching people

665
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 3: denigrate what you love. And lying your way into office

666
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: is denigrating the institution. It's insulting his voters and his peers,

667
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: every citizen. You may only handle the audio here, but

668
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: you know you are an important part of a beautiful

669
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: and flawed machine, the US federal government. The government isn't

670
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: something outside of the people. It is the people. Believe

671
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: in the country, respect the country, and you take umbrage

672
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: to this rising tide of carnival barkers and crass opportunists.

673
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: They have no decorum. You, Zarin, are a dying breed.

674
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: The vote begins for the next Speaker.

675
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: Of the House.

676
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: Role is called, and alphabetically each representative stands to announce

677
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: their vote. McCarthy, Jeffreys, Biggs, We're into the ESS's You

678
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: hear it in your headset Santos. You look out and

679
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: you see him stand, say McCarthy, and then sit back down.

680
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: Dang it, he's too far from a mic. Enough people

681
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: heard it, though, But then you see the levels increase

682
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 3: on your board. The Democrats are jeering him. You can't

683
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: quite pick up what they're saying. You're MIC's although you

684
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: think maybe it's better this way. People don't need to

685
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: hear these things. People don't need to witness their elected

686
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: officials behaving like this. Crude, hurtful Zaren. You have got

687
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: to get out of Washington while you can.

688
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: It's eating my soul, Elizabeth.

689
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: So it took I don't know if you'll remember, it

690
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: took fifteen rounds of votes for McCarthy to finally get

691
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: a speakership, and only then could George be sworn into office,

692
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: which he was, and happened at like one in the

693
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: morning a few days later. George Santos now officially a

694
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: member of Congress. Let's stop this madness and listen to

695
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: some ads. Calm our animal brains. When we return, mister

696
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: Santos goes.

697
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: To Washington, Yes, Queen Zarin, Elizabeth.

698
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: So it was on January seventh, twenty twenty three, that

699
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: George Santos was sworn into the US House of Representatives.

700
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: Eight days later, four Republican New York congressman called for

701
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: George's resignation.

702
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

703
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: Eight days eight days the chair of the NASA County

704
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Republican Party called for him to step down. He said

705
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: that Georgian quote, disgrace the House of Representatives, and we

706
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: do not consider him one of our congress people.

707
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: So they do have a standard they do on paper.

708
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: I did not know that.

709
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: George was like, you know what I hear you absolutely not, yes,

710
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: not not going anywhere on food floor. In February of

711
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, the House Ethics Committee initiated an investigation

712
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: into his conduct. So like a month in.

713
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: Wow, and you know they were both he was hard

714
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: at work though.

715
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: What was he doing that same month February twenty twenty

716
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: three legislation he co sponsored a bill, Oh really, to

717
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: designate the AR fifteen style rifle the National Gun of

718
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 3: the United States.

719
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 2: The national gun he sponsored to make.

720
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you, I'm like, I love him and

721
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: hate him so much, so whatever, it's clown behavior. So

722
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: the truth about his lives just kept coming out and

723
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: everything gets to like this fever pitch when it was

724
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: released in November of that year. What did the ethics

725
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: committee eventually find? Let me answer that question for you, zeron.

726
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: Here are the categories misuse of campaign funds for personal expenses.

727
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: This is like an awards show. He diverted campaign contributions

728
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: for personal use, including over four thousand dollars spent at

729
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: air Mais.

730
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh you know, yeah, it actually seems kind of light

731
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: for MS.

732
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think, yeah, he's just crazy.

733
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: A couple of things.

734
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he paid for cosmetic procedures like botox.

735
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Oh, he got his. Like basically, he's using campaign finance

736
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: funds to pay for his botox because he needs to

737
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: look good on TV exactly.

738
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: It makes sense it, Yeah, subscriptions to adult content platforms

739
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: like OnlyFans.

740
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Harder harder, irrationalized that one.

741
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 3: You know, it's just like self care.

742
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Well, give me a second. Wait, So this is he's

743
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: trying to understand what his constituents are are being irritated

744
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: and annoyed by. It's research.

745
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: It's into the evils that he is fighting.

746
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: You have to know if he's going to fight at Elizabeth.

747
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: I remember I had to look at OnlyFans for that

748
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 3: other story I told you.

749
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: Now you're an only fans model.

750
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am so. So he went he paid for

751
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: travel to like Atlantic City in Vegas, but there were

752
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: no campaign related activities there.

753
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Once again getting to know the sins because he went

754
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: to fight literally personal.

755
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: Payments for his personal credit card bills and like debts.

756
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I can get this one. Okay. Is electioneering,

757
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: which is you cannot separate the candidate from the campaign.

758
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 3: Girl, you are like me doing my text right. Okay,

759
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: Let's let's go another category. Fraudulent financial disclosures and deceptive practices.

760
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: Penn slipped, I did not file that paperwork.

761
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: And he was twenty months late.

762
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Twenty months late, that's almost two year.

763
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: It's almost two years. It's like how you measure babies,

764
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: Like that's a two year old. He reported in that

765
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: worth of two point five to eleven point five million range. Yes,

766
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: even though and he also had all these other claims

767
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: that like, by the way.

768
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: I personally when people ask I say that I have

769
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: a net value of a net worth of around negative

770
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: seven million dollars to two million dollars positive somewhere in.

771
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: There, you know, ballpark it.

772
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: Well, then he also had a big ring.

773
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: He said he had all these other properties that he

774
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: didn't have. Why would you claim them if you don't

775
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: because you have to Well, no, this is just for

776
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: your financial disclosures. Why anyway, he brokeered a nineteen million

777
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: dollar yacht sale between two major campaign contributors. What yeah,

778
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 3: and I don't know if he took a cut.

779
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Whatever is that illegal?

780
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 3: Let's try category amateur boat swapping, amateur boat program, exploitation

781
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: of campaign for personal gain. So the committee concluded that

782
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: he sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his house

783
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: candidacy for personal financial profit.

784
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: He even took the light bulbs.

785
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said he put his desire for private gain

786
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: above his duty to uphold the Constitution, federal law, and

787
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: ethical principles. He was absolutely, as as would be expected,

788
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: uncooperative with the committee's in grace, and he like they

789
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: would ask him for just straightforward stuff and he'd be like, yeah,

790
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I'll get that to you there.

791
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, check it out. Did you check your mailbocks?

792
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: What happens?

793
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: I must have the wrong address. You had the wrong adress.

794
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: So the Committee's like, you know what, We're going to

795
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: refer all this other stuff that we have for potential

796
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: criminal conduct to the Department of Justice. How do you

797
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: like them apples? May twenty twenty three federal grand jury.

798
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: So he gets it. January twenty twenty three, he's sworn in.

799
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: Now we're in. May twenty twenty three, federal grand jury

800
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: in the Eastern District of New York indicted him on

801
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 3: thirteen counts. And that's seven counts of wire fraud, three

802
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds,

803
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: two counts of making materially false statements to the House

804
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: of Representatives. That sounds like a big, big one. And

805
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: so the charges alleged that he embezzled campaign contributions, that

806
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 3: he fraudulently obtained unemployment benefits.

807
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

808
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 3: So while he's like, oh, I make eleven million a year, ps,

809
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm not an appoyment. He lied in financial disclosures to

810
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 3: the House of Reps. After his indictment, House Republican leadership

811
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: said they weren't going to force him to resign, they

812
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: weren't going to give him the boot. House Democrats introduced

813
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: a resolution to kick him out, but it didn't pass,

814
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: and they were actually Democrats who voted to keep him because,

815
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 3: like Katie Porter was one of them and her whole

816
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: thing very like legal scholars like, well, he hasn't been

817
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: convicted yet, so we can't really boot him until he's

818
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: been convicted.

819
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: So the whole process, the due process.

820
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: Due process. So a superseding indictment came out in October

821
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, added ten more charges. So now we're

822
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: at twenty three totals. So now your friends order, Yeah,

823
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 3: but listen to some of these. One count of conspiracy

824
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: to commit offenses against the United States.

825
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Oh, that's like just blow.

826
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: Two counts of wire fraud, two counts of making materially

827
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: false statements to the Federal Election Commission, two counts of

828
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: falsifying records submitted to obstruct the FEC, two counts of

829
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: aggre aggravated identity.

830
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: Fat what is that is that when you beat someone

831
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: with like it's.

832
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: A violent identity? And one count of access device fraud. Okay,

833
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: So these additional charges, it was all about the fundraising reports.

834
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: That's where those came.

835
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't care about the lives. It's the money.

836
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Unauthorized charges on campaign contributors credit cards.

837
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: Oh, he used their cards.

838
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: You can do your campaign, you know, you can do

839
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: your your contribution on this card. And then he's like,

840
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: then I'm also going to slip in some you know, OnlyFans.

841
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: Just put down their numbers on a trip.

842
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: To like wow, the whole this whole time that this

843
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: is going on, George is still in Congress, Yes, the

844
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: whole time.

845
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: You know, you know how many indictments are in Congress

846
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: that anyone can give in time?

847
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: They and that's on both sides.

848
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, this is a Republican Democrats.

849
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: It's just it's way more than the general population.

850
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the House Republicans and House Democrats both have a

851
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: lot of House to clean up.

852
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. Yeah, so George, he's there right in

853
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: the thick of it. The Democrats tried and failed a

854
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: bunch of times to get him kicked out, but then

855
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: the Ethics report came out in November of twenty twenty three.

856
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: Over the Thanksgiving break, George got on Twitter and said

857
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: that like, look, I think I'm about to get the

858
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: boot from Congress when we all get back from break. Yeah,

859
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: and he said that he would wear it quote like

860
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: a badge of honor that I don't you know. He

861
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: said that the head of the Ethics Committee Michael Guest

862
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: was a quote pussy and said that no one and

863
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: said that no one from Mississippi was going to push

864
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: a New Yorker out of Congress.

865
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: So he's pulling Yankee moves.

866
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: I guess. George said that it was hypocritical of the

867
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: House to expel him. He's not wrong there, and then

868
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: that like that kicks off this threat of his to

869
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: expose the misdeeds of his colleagues that continues to this day,

870
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 3: like he's still threatening to air dirty laundry.

871
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: And I stay charged to it.

872
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: What have you got left to lose? On December first,

873
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: all of.

874
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: His tomorrows, that's what he's got left to lose.

875
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 3: The House voted to expel him three hundred and eleven

876
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: to one hundred and fourteen December first. He is the

877
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: sixth member of the House of Representatives to be expelled,

878
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: and the only Republican and the only member expelled without

879
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: first being convicted of a federal crime or having supported

880
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: the Confederacy. That's what all the other ones got. It

881
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: so groundbreaking.

882
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: Back in the day, people shot each other on the

883
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: House of Yah on the floors of the House, so

884
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: this is true.

885
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: December eighteenth, twenty twenty three, he appeared on ze Way's

886
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: show Oh right, and if you haven't seen it, please

887
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: check it out. Ze Way's amazing. She's the most brutal interviewer.

888
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: If she asked me to appear on her show, I

889
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: would immediately decline.

890
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: Way more scared of her than Isaac Chottma.

891
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: Oh, she's terrifying. She would obliterate me and she'd show

892
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: the world what a fool I am. But George walked

893
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: right into it. Oh yeah, He's like, let's do this.

894
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: He's like introduced me to the chappa.

895
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: He pushed some of the same lies, he tried out

896
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: new ones. He asked her to get paid to do it.

897
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: Panders to all sorts of audiences. It's like a command performance. Yes,

898
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: it's so. It's so embarrassing and so.

899
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: Beautiful, unhinged. It's like the Yeah I.

900
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: Watched George Santos on Zeaway. After he got kicked out

901
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: of Congress, he needed to make money, so he turned

902
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: to the cameo platform to generate income. You know what

903
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: cameo is, right, You pay a celebrity to record a

904
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: personalized video for you. Yes, and they're generally like priced

905
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: according to level of fame. So George originally priced his

906
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: personalized video messages at seventy five dollars, but then like

907
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: the demand was huge, so he quickly upped the rate

908
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: to five hundred bucks a pop. Oh wow, and he

909
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: claimed he said that he sold over twelve hundred videos.

910
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: And then he started telling people that he'd earned more

911
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: than four hundred thousand dollars from the platform. And at

912
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: one point he said he was making over eighty thousand

913
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: dollars a day from cameo. Yeah, a day a day,

914
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: which is more way more than the annual congressional salary

915
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: of one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars.

916
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Oh, and that's like Wilt Chamberlain math, like, I'm so

917
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: busy every day. Just yeah, exactly, I'm doing cameo, cameo.

918
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: Consider the source.

919
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: I know, I don't.

920
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: So. So, despite his legal troubles, his cameo endeavors were

921
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: deemed legal and ethically permissible because he was no longer

922
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: subject to how ethics rules.

923
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

924
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then experts noted that, unlike his previous fraudulent activities,

925
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: his cameo earnings were actually transparent transactions with willing participants.

926
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: That's true. Everybody knew what they were paying for getting.

927
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: Credit card numbers personally platform. On August nineteenth, twenty twenty four,

928
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: George Santos pleaded guilty in federal court to wire fraud

929
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: and aggravated identity.

930
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: Felt got it down to two charges.

931
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the plea like that way he does this

932
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: plea deal a trial they're going to throw.

933
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: On wire fraud because they love that lot just.

934
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: Is so good.

935
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: It's so juicy and has real, real charges.

936
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: Got legs. In his guilty plea, he admitted to filing

937
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: fraudulent FEC reports to misrepresent his campaign's financial status. He

938
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: admitted to embezzling funds from campaign donors for personal use,

939
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: charging donors credit cards without authorization, stealing identities to facilitate

940
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: fraudulent activities, obtaining unemployment benefits through false claims. I hope

941
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: how great would it be if he was on unemployment

942
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: well in Congress? Yeah, anyway, lying in reports submitted to

943
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: the House of Reps. He acknowledged that his ambition is

944
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: what led him to make unethical decisions. He told the

945
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: court quote, I accept full responsibility for my actions, but

946
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: his social media post told a different story and so,

947
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: US attorney John Durham said that he called the social

948
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: media post unrepentant and proved that he deserved quote a

949
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: significant carceral sentence. Oh yeah, yeah, so George, He replied

950
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: to someone on Twitter who asked if he really used

951
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: campaign funds to quote buy air miz No, Santos responded,

952
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: that's a false statement. That's impassed on his truth. But like,

953
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: that's not what he just said in court. So there

954
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: are a ton more examples like that where he contradict

955
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: did what he said in court and just basically, you know,

956
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: painted himself as the victim for all this. The man

957
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 3: cannot stop lying. On April twenty fifth, twenty twenty five,

958
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: George Santos was sentenced to eighty seven months that's more

959
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: than seven years federal prison lot. In addition to the

960
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: prison term, he has to pay three hundred seventy three thousand,

961
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: seven hundred forty nine and ninety seven cents in restitution,

962
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: and he has to forfeit more than two hundred and

963
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. During the sentencing, he did express remorse.

964
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: He said he regretted defrauding the voters who supported his

965
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: congressional run. However, the judge was like, I don't think

966
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: you are for real in that he said. The judge

967
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 3: called him a quote arrogant fraudster. Oh so the judge

968
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 3: is like, I can't believe a word you say. She

969
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: highlighted all the social media activity how he had tried

970
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 3: to monetize his notoriety as evidence that he's just again unrepentant.

971
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 3: Hepped as the sentence was read. But the judge was like,

972
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: and he asked for protective custody. The judges like, no,

973
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: really for you, Jen Pop for you. So he has

974
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: to report to prison by July twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. Now,

975
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 3: I'd read that he was trying to sell as many

976
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: cameo videos as possible before July when he ships off

977
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: to prison. And when I looked at the cameo website,

978
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: I saw that he was having a sale. Oh no, yeah,

979
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars for a video he does like birthdays

980
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: and special occasion messages. You can request a pep talk.

981
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: I didn't have a cameo account, but I saw that

982
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: you could get thirty percent off your first video. Oh

983
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: my goodness, And I had sixty dollars burning a hole

984
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: in my back, so I asked for a pep talk

985
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: video from George Santos, and I told him, I'm overwhelmed

986
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: by the world. I'm super busy with my podcast. I

987
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: just need some encouragement from the ultimate resilient diva, George Santos.

988
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

989
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: Basically, his profile has a one hour guarantee, so you

990
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: get the video within the hour.

991
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

992
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding, Like that's like he it has like

993
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: a little like clock icon, like, hey, he'll do it.

994
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: He's desperate and so possible.

995
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: Thirty or so minutes later, I had this message from George,

996
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: filmed as he sat in his car.

997
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 5: He Elizabeth, it's George Sancho's And I know life can

998
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: get really stressful sometimes. Believe me, I would know a

999
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: thing or two about strass But I want you to know,

1000
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: don't get overwhelmed with being busy. Don't have panicky attacks

1001
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 5: because of your podcast. Your podcast is supposed to be

1002
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 5: part of your life and of you building yourself up

1003
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: through work. And it's a positive, not a negative. Don't

1004
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 5: feel like all the work is overwhelming or or anything

1005
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 5: like that. Use it as a positive. That's how I

1006
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 5: use my podcast as a positive. So I know you

1007
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: can do it. I know you can and you will.

1008
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: So Elizabeth, Diva up energy and.

1009
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 5: Always be resilient, be strong, and remember you're a queen

1010
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 5: and you can do whatever you want.

1011
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: Bye.

1012
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: Yes, Diva up Energy, Diva Up.

1013
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 2: He even called you a queen. Yes.

1014
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: Yes. So every person I've showed this to has remarked

1015
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: on how he seems like such a nice person, and

1016
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: I mean, lying narcissts have a way of coming across

1017
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 3: like that. But I do have compassion for the guy,

1018
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: and even I even kind of like him, even though

1019
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: the political stuff he says gives me an aneurysm. But

1020
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 3: he's such an interesting character. And now I tell myself,

1021
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 3: Diva up Energy when everythings get crazy, that George George

1022
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: wants me to be resilient like he is and he's

1023
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 3: gonna He's gonna survive. This is Aaron, what's your ridiculous takeaway?

1024
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: Thank you for asking, Elizabeth so rarely do my It

1025
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 2: would be I'm going to take away from this Diva

1026
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: Cup energy. So I'm gonna be there for you as

1027
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: a Diva cup while you Diva up. Oh God, no,

1028
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: am I getting is now? I just heard that it

1029
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: is just I know people use it. I know.

1030
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for divas only.

1031
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Well anyway, Diva up, that's mine. What's yours, Elizabeth?

1032
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you know it's People are complex. Yes,

1033
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: they are very, very complex.

1034
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 2: It's best not to paint them or to see them

1035
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: through just one of their many identities.

1036
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: Well, and I have to this. I think was a

1037
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: good exercise for me to think about compassion and that

1038
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: like the anger that I feel and the like I

1039
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: don't want to succumb to that kind of thing. And

1040
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: every single person is human, even though I don't think

1041
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: maybe they are.

1042
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: The nuns would be very proud of you.

1043
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: They would be so proud of me right now.

1044
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: For real, they would they He's so bummed that.

1045
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: They wasted sixty bucks.

1046
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: That's charity. It's like.

1047
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: I want him to have at least a couple of

1048
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: packs of Ramens in his commissary.

1049
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 2: He's not good with money.

1050
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: I like how he's lecturing me on work.

1051
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Build with real stuff, Dave.

1052
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 3: I think we need to talk back.

1053
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me rescue us. All. Oh my god, I cheat.

1054
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 4: Hi, this is Carol.

1055
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: I love your show.

1056
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: I bought the merchandise so I have the move sweatshirt

1057
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 4: that says who knows who cares and on the back

1058
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 4: advertises the podcast. But I just you all make me

1059
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: smile and laugh, and that's so important in these current times.

1060
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: And I just love it. My dogs love hearing you laugh.

1061
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: Archie and Georgia.

1062
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 3: Wait, Archie and Georgia. I love this. This whole thing

1063
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 3: is perfect. First of all, let's talk merch. Amazing. I

1064
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: love the merch. Oh you're wonderful and I adore you,

1065
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 3: and thank you. That was a good one. Yeah, we

1066
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: all need to like keep laughing, even though I think

1067
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: I just made a lot of people mad. That's okay.

1068
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to point out that that you were

1069
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: not in any way advocating anything about the politics, but

1070
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: the person. So for focusing on the person, I think

1071
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: that he has an interesting character.

1072
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 3: Well, and we've said it before too, that like anytime

1073
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: we talk about someone on here, we're talking about the

1074
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: things they do, not the actual individual, you know, like

1075
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: we're laughing at that. And everyone is also just a

1076
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: few bad decisions away.

1077
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: From political candidate in the New York Sturt history.

1078
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 3: That is like the worst decision. Oh that's it for today.

1079
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: You can find us online at ridiculous Crime dot com

1080
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: or the merch Lies. We can also be found on

1081
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: blue Sky and Instagram. You can email us at ridiculous

1082
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Crime at gmail dot com. You can check out YouTube,

1083
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: like and subscribe as the kids say to Ridiculous Crime

1084
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: pod see how I Cut Myself off and then please

1085
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: download the iHeart app. Leave a talkback like that sweet one.

1086
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:37,200
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00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,600
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