1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm Rashaan McDonald, the host of 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to stop 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start planning their own. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: their companies, and speak with dog profits who are making 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: a difference in their local communities. Now, sit back and 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: listen as we unlock the secrets to their success on 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome, Welcome to Money Making Conversations 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Master Class Class Wow, Money Making Conversations Master Class. I'm 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: your host, Rashawn McDonald. As every week a new adventure, 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: new set of guess, a new set of motivators, people 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: who have ideas that have worked in their life, and 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I asked them to tell their stories so hopefully the 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: keys to their success or the keys to their perseverance 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: will motivate you to be successful. That's for Money Making 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclasses all about. 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Now, let's get the show moving on. 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: My first guest is now available on the show, and 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: let's rote and again my guests on the show today. 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Co stars in the popular The Blackhampton series on BT. 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: His book navigates through life's ups and downs, and he 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: uncovers the importance of perseverance, resilience, and determination. The book 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: shares and insightful reflections and titled keep Peddling Things I 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: Learned on my bike. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: master Class. Karan, Joseph Riley. How you doing, Koran? 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: Thanks of love, Sean. How you doing, James? 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Well? You know I I first of all thank you 45 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversation master Class. You know, 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: this is a young brother that I'd like to believe 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: I mentor. You know, he calls me for advice and 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I try to lead him down that path as an 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: older gentleman, because that's what mentorship. What role does mestership 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: mentorship plan in your life? Because I know I'm not 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: the only one that mentors your office advice when you 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: request it. 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with Shot. I haven't had a lot 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: of mentors in the entertainment world, as much as I 55 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: would love to have had. Right My first one, I 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: would have to say was great timing forward. He looked 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: out for me earlier in my career, gave me a 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: lot of great jews. I think mentorship is necessary, man, 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: I think it's part of the journey. I think if 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: you get any kind of any monochrome of success, it's 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: your responsibility to mentor somebody and pay it back for it. 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: That's what this book is. It's a mentorship to the 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: young black girl or the young black boy who didn't 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: grow up with a village like I had, like a 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: great coaching coaches, my dad, my brothers, my uncles, my friends. 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I stand on so many shoulders, Rashaan, that 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: I can't take credit for any of this stuff. 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: Man. 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm literally I'm literally living out the dreams of myself. 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: But I'm also living out on the field that people 71 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: put that people put in instilled into me. 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Great' that's detailed, and so I want to introduce you 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: to my audience who are alive every Tuesday o w 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: c OK in Atlanta, Georgia, and give a little background 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: about you before we get into the book. Keep peddling 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: the things I learned on my bike, which I loved 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: the title. By the way, tell us a little background 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: about you. 79 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Well born and raised in Detroit, Michigan. Wanted to be 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: an actor since I was in the first grade, but 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: sports took over my life shortly there after that. So 82 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: I took that journey for as long as I could 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: take it. And after I retired from football, I jumped 84 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: back into my original dream and passion of becoming an actor. 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: Fast forward seventeen years. 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Excuse me there, short change yourself. Professional football. 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: Okay, professional football in the NFL, in the NFL, NFLL. 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: That was my best part time job I ever had. 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: By the way, you know, I. 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Could have said I retired from football and did they 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: even become close to playing high school football's saying I 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: would not let you say that. You're part of the 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: biggest sports franchise in the world today, most watched media 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: forum on television, and that's professional football. You in all America, 95 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: in college and so because the reason I say that 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: because I always step back when we talk about branding 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: on this show, and sometimes when we start telling that story, 98 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: we short change ourselves. Because the uniqueness of you is 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: because you are a chameleon. You're a person who's been 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: successful at so many different levels and athletics, academics, you know, acting, 101 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, each one of those levels have a lot 102 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: of turn back in it. And that's where the conversation perseverance, 103 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: and that's why I brought up those perseverance, resilience, and 104 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: determination because in the things that you've become successful in, Karan, 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: a lot of people tell you no a lot of 106 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: people doubt you, A lot of people would question your dream. 107 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: How have you survived? Let's start with sports first. 108 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: I basically my mother, man. My mother instilled a unwavering 109 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: love and belief system in my in my spirit and 110 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: my soul. Man. So like all those nose that you 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: would get coming up as an athlete with all the doubts, 112 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: and athletics is not so much the nose as it 113 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: is in the acting game, because in athletics there is 114 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: a barometer that you can see immediately if a kid 115 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: has potential to be good or something. So it wasn't 116 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: so much nose in athletics. It was more like you said, 117 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: the naysayers, the dollters. You know, coming out of college, 118 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: you know, I was the all time sack leader in 119 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: the University of Minnesota history. Still to this day, I'm 120 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: the all time sack leader in the University of Minnesota's 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: history twenty some years later. Even then, coming out getting drafted, 122 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: every every everybody their their job is to find knocks, 123 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: bad things about your game, to not pay you what 124 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: you're warranted to be paid. So, you know, I went 125 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: through that whole journey of getting to the NFL, getting 126 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: drafted by the Chicago Bears in two thousand and one 127 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: draft in the fourth round. Now, if you look over 128 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: the course of the draft in the last twenty some 129 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: years and you take my stats against any other first 130 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: round defensive end past rushing linebacker for out of college stats, 131 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: I still have some of the best stats over the 132 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: last twenty years. That wasn't a first round draft pick, 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: So that says I should have been a first round 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: draft pick. But I dealt with that again that that 135 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: was probably my biggest hurdle coming into the NFL of 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: how to deal with adversity of like, man, I done bust, 137 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: my button, did everything right. I thought to really secure 138 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: myself and my family very lucrative payday with a first 139 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: round signing bonus, which would probably you know, change my 140 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: trajectory as a person at that point. But it didn't 141 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: go that way. You know, I got a decent sign 142 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: the bone. This was like three hundred and fifty thousand. 143 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: You know, that's nothing to you know, sniff at it 144 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: in two thousand and one. But again I was totally 145 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: undervalued based on my production. And I believe, and you 146 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: and I have talked about this, I believe it was 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: because of my sickle sale status as having to trade 148 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: as an athlete. I think that hurt me a little 149 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: bit as well, and also being more of an outspoken 150 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: athlete who didn't just fall in line with the status 151 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: quo as an athlete. I've never been that. I've always 152 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: been a free thinker and a leader, a leader of thought. 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: Please don't go anywhere, We'll be right back with more 154 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 156 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making 157 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 158 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Wow, you know, I love the fact that you know 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you're honest about the whole journey. But as an athlete, 160 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't know when to stop. 161 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people working jobs right now 162 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: that they should walk away from and really evaluate the 163 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: next steps in their life. And so in athletics, and 164 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: when you are successful, you've been doing something so long 165 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: and sometimes it becomes easy and it becomes a pattern. 166 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: How did you know it was turned time to change 167 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: your career path? 168 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: But the NFL kind of lets, you know, you get 169 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: cut where I can kind of dictate when and where 170 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, hang up my cleats. It was 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: one of those things. I was in Washington with the 172 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: Redskins and had a great preseason, but it wasn't great enough. 173 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: Obviously they had to signed another guy in my position 174 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: that at the same time they signed me as a 175 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: free agent, and they actually paid him a lot more 176 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: money to come in and play. So again, so it 177 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: always comes down to economics at the end of the day. Uh, 178 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: they had invested more money in his in his plan 179 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: and then invest in mind. So they let me go, 180 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: and at that point it was more relief for me 181 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: because I wasn't the kind of athlete like you said. 182 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't a guy who was gonna keep from lying 183 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: at different cities and trying at my you know, trying 184 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: out for teams and you know, living out of a 185 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: suitcase for the next two or three years like a 186 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of my peers did when they 187 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: were trying to hold onto the dream. Because I'll share 188 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: this with you, the NFL was never my dream. NFL 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: was was was my was like a mistress or in 190 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: a way or or a backup playing to the to 191 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: the main plan. My main plan was to go to 192 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: the NBA. And after I didn't grow to be six 193 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: six sixty seven like I thought I was, I made. 194 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: I just made an executive decision at the age of seventeen. 195 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: You know, they were like, you know, because I was 196 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: still was getting recruited for basketball. I was, I was 197 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: All State in basketball, so I was getting recruited for basketball. 198 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: But my dad was like, man, you know, I saw 199 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett play in the same summer I was deciding 200 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: what scholarship I was gonna take, and I realized that 201 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: the future of the NBA was not looking anything like me. 202 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: So I made. I made an executive decision and said, 203 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm pretty good this football. I do 204 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: believe that I can make it to the NFL football 205 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: because again the numbers fifty three man roster versus twelve 206 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: man roster. My skill set transferring from being a great 207 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: basketball player translated to being a great pass rusher in 208 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: football because my speed, my quickness, and my footwork that 209 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: I was blessed with from basketball. So it was it 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: kind of made my story kind of created itself as 211 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: it was going one loss ended up proving to become 212 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: a win. And when I walked away from the game, 213 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: it was like I'm walking to my next play man, 214 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: which is my original plan was to be an actor. 215 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 216 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: And I went straight went straight to La and started 217 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: pursuing acting right away. Man. I literally went back to Atlanta, 218 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: packed my bag and got on a plane with La. 219 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Wow. Now I keep peddling. That's the book. Were brought 220 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: you on the show to discuss things I've learned on 221 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: my bike. When did this whole concept of this book 222 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: come about? Was it something that? Is it something that? 223 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, we all know our first experience on 224 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: the bike when I can remember my dad pushed me 225 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: and I was wabbling with the training wheels and I 226 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: remember when the training wheels come off. So I can 227 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: remember my experience in my life on a bike, especially 228 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: in my early years. You know, when I got older, 229 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I give on the bike and I can't figure out 230 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: why I'm on it, but I know I had I 231 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: bought the bike, said I was gonna ride and never 232 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: wrote it for the years I've owned it. But I 233 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: do remember my experience on the bike. So why was 234 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: it important to name your book? Keep peddling things I 235 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: learned on my bike. 236 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: Well, the book started ten years ago and it started 237 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: off to become like a man law book, just young 238 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: men in general. It was a time about ten years 239 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: ago and I was starting to notice the pandemic going 240 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: on amongst our brothers. The pants sagging below the bud 241 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: and not having the ability to shake a man's hand 242 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: and look him in the eye, you know, simple things 243 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: that I saw that our culture was going down right, 244 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: But I need to write a book on man laws. 245 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: And eventually, as I started working on that, I started 246 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: realizing that I don't really have all the laws. I'm 247 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: just one man. And in the midst of that ten 248 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: years I started I created my key telling and my 249 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: key pelling in matra Own one of my bike rides 250 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: to Alabama, I do. I do a bike ride to 251 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: Alabama every year on my birthday. So as I'm riding Alabama. 252 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: Where do you start? You draw from Atlanta and bike 253 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: ride to Alabama. 254 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I started Sandy Springs, Atlanta, and I arrived the 255 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: comments Silver Commissary all the way to Alabama and it's 256 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: about ninety eight miles one way, so it ends up 257 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: being about a two hundred mile two day trip. I 258 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: stay over night in the hotel in Jackson, Alabama, get 259 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: up the next day, and come back. So the day 260 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: coming back, the next day, coming back is what I 261 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: tell people. I get all of my spiritual and universal 262 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: downloads because I believe that as an athlete, some of 263 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: my spiritual gifts will come through my body. So me 264 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: getting to my body, to that physical point where I'm 265 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: completely exhausted and I gotta rely on my spirit and 266 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: my willpower to keep going, that's when I start getting 267 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: the blessings. So all of a sudden, I got this. 268 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: I got this thought, and this voice kept saying to me, 269 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: just keep no matter how long it takes, keep healing, 270 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: keep healing. It just kept saying it right, And I said, saying, man, 271 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: I've been doing this my whole life. Keep pealing thing, 272 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: ain't It's not just really all about being on this bike. 273 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: This is a This ride from Alabama is it's like 274 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: a It's my life. It's like a life journey for me. 275 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: So I came home and I designed the logo and 276 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: I told Terry and my wife, I said, look, I 277 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: had a vision, and this is gonna be the new, 278 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: my new, my new, my new manifesto of my life. 279 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: I've named it and and it's gonna be what precedes me. 280 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: If I came up with to key Healing and then 281 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: after that, man it, you know, I just kept building 282 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: on that, and again something came up and I needed 283 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: to do a speaking event, and they were like, we 284 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: want to come through the speaking event. What am I 285 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: gonna talk about? So I said, I broke down keep 286 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: Helling into an acronym, and then I broke down each letter, 287 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: what it meant to me, and how I've developed each 288 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: letter along the way, and how they all pay homage 289 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: to the next lets and it builds on something. And 290 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: once you master each letter of keep Peddling as an individual, 291 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: I guarantee you you're going to be a lot better 292 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: often where you found yourself before you've picked up Keep Peddling. 293 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: In the book, Wow Kuran. Before we go to break, 294 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: tell everybody how they can buy the book. 295 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: Www. Karan Joseholey dot com and anywhere all books are sold. 296 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: That means Barnes and Noble, Amazon, anywhere else. But I 297 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: always say this first and foremost. If you want my 298 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: signed autograph copy, you're ordered through Karan Joseraley dot com 299 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: everywhere else. You'll just get the book, and you'll have 300 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: the book and it's no love lost. But you won't 301 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: get to have my energy infused with the book, as 302 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,479 Speaker 2: I will send you a positive note in my autograph 303 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: with it. 304 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: His book Keep Peddling is more than a self help book, 305 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: be ause a roadmap for navigating life's twists and turns 306 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: with grace and courage. You know I wanted I got 307 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: to go back to what you're staring on right now 308 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: because I watch it all the time. The Blackhamptons. Know 309 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: you said you said seven years old you wanted to act. 310 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I would honestly tell you seven years old, my daddy 311 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: probably was thanking me because I was tearing up the room. 312 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: How does one I just want to see that. I 313 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: always I always marveled when I hear people tell me 314 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: they understand that vision, understand that this is what I 315 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: want to be at such a young age. Talk about that, 316 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: because I think that drives who you are today. And 317 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I think people have children who see it too, but 318 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: they might dismiss their kids dreams. 319 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, man. Again, I give credit to my mother 320 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: to always allow me to have that freedom to speak 321 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: my mind and encourage me to speak my mind and 322 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: and propicide my visions. So in the first grade, so 323 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: actually it was all younger than seven. Man, it was 324 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: actually I think six when I really came to the 325 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: I got the vision to be an actor. I was 326 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: playing Pussing Boots in a stay in a stage, playing 327 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: in element in school. And you know, you don't have 328 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: a lot of lines at that age, so I think 329 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: I delivered my line in the line was not I said, 330 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: the cat and my mother, my grandmother, everybody, like you know, 331 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: the women in my family were at they were at 332 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: the play, and my mom and them, they screamed so loud, 333 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: and cheers so loud, and sean in that very moment, 334 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna do this forever. And 335 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: and shortly after that, Man, she had me performing everywhere 336 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: she could. Man, we be at the mall, She'd like, 337 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: do the Billy Jean. I would do the Michael Jackson 338 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: Billy Jeans dance. So I was a natural, A natural 339 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: ham in a way, I guess I didn't. I never 340 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: never shied away from a camera or an audience or 341 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: anything like that. So so I played sports. It was 342 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: no different than me. Man. I always usually had my 343 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: best games in the biggest game, and people were like, man, 344 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: you always come to play when it's really a big game. 345 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: I said, Yo, the stage the biggest and the bright 346 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: the lights of the brightest. Is time for me to 347 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: show up. 348 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Baby, I'm just laughing, not I the cat, said the cat. 349 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: That was my line. Baby. So I say, I say 350 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: to encourage the kids and everything. And again, you know, 351 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: a lot of kids have the visions of what they 352 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: want to do and what they want to be for themselves. 353 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: But and then and a lot of kids don't. And 354 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: it's okay either way. But if you do. I'll tell 355 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: any parent that's listening that has young kids, if they 356 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: if they vocalize what they want to do early on, 357 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: please please please listen. Because when I believe as a child, 358 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: we are as close to our purpose of remembering our 359 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: purpose than we ever was. You know, as we get 360 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: older and we get you know, blindsided by the world's 361 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: blind spots, it's easy to forget what we came here 362 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: to do. And uh, I think you know, kids are 363 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: still in touch. 364 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, one of the greatest gifts I've always known 365 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: about you, even when you didn't know me. There's always 366 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: always you know one thing about me. People always say 367 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: we're shiny. You seem to have your hands. You know, 368 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: people that don't even even they've never met you, But 369 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: you seem to impact people you've never met. And and 370 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: you understand the value of relationships. You understand and understand 371 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: how to connect the dots, and that led to your 372 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: role on The Black Black Hamptons. Can you tell everybody 373 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: about that? 374 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, Relationships. Networking is your network in this world. 375 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: If you you can have ten million degrees, you can 376 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: have ten millions uh be read ten million books. But 377 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: if you don't have any connections to anybody that can 378 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: help expand your web or your net around the world, 379 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: then it's all wasted knowledge. So to get how I 380 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: got my gig on The Black Hamptons was a relationship. 381 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: It's a simple relationship that started with a dinner and 382 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: a conversation with a really dope brother by the name 383 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: of Trey Haley. He is the director of All the 384 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: Black Hamptons, one of the co creators and producers of 385 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: Tridathin Films. And he and I just had a really 386 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: good night. Like you and I would sit down and 387 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: we have dinner, we'd talk and it was just that. 388 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: And fast forward like a year and a half, two 389 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: years later, I get a phone call on this trade. Hey, Karen, 390 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: I got this, I got this part, and I think 391 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: it's perfect to you. And you know, he broke it 392 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: down to me and he said, man, I would love 393 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: to offer this to you if you want to get 394 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: down with us. And long story short, bro it walked 395 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: onto something and it was. It was an amazing experience 396 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: with Nikki, Indy Indie and Carl Weber and those guys. 397 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: And Uh, I've been very blessed and fortunate along the 398 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 2: way to to have had a lot of success based 399 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: on just the sheer ability to be able to connect 400 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: with people. And thank god I had the talent to 401 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: back it up and and and the and the and 402 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: the stay and power to stay once I get the opportunity. 403 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: But like I said, man, the network, your network is 404 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: your net worth. 405 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, when when I think about it, I'm talking 406 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: to Karan Joseph Ridley. He's the author of the book 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Keep Paddling Things I Learned on my bike. Uh, you 408 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: are a bike rider and uh and uh, you know 409 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: you talk about ride a bike and I earlier in 410 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: my life I did, Uh, long distance running. And you know, 411 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: if you run for a while, you didn't get that pain. 412 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: You have to be able to run through that pain. 413 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you get it. You've gotten it on your 414 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: especially in those long trips. It's a pain. And once 415 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: you get through that pain, it's kind of like a 416 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: sense of uh for you. Yeah, and you and you, 417 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: and you start thinking differently. It's like a certain drug 418 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: body drug gets into you and relaxes you. And you go, 419 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Where's where did that pain go? And and you know 420 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: the thing about because I've read your book, and you 421 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: know that I felt your book was very relaxing to me. 422 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: And tell everybody the importance of the book, you know, 423 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a transformative book. It's more than 424 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: a self help book. But it also is a book 425 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: a tell all. And when I say tell all, not 426 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: from a standpoint of personal but to tell all about 427 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: what you can do and what you can become. It's transformative, correct. 428 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I've took it from a very very basic 429 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: fundamental of if I'm sitting down with a young brother 430 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: that looks like me or a young sister that looks 431 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: like me, and they're like Koran, I love the fact 432 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 2: that you mentioned and it fail. I love fact that 433 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: you're an actor. I love how did you do all 434 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: of those things? And how are you still aiming for 435 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: higher and higher plateaus? And I would say everything that's 436 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: in this book, I would tell him that, you know, 437 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: if I could tell them in one conversation, I would. 438 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: It would take a little while, but I could tell them, 439 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: and I say, look, man, I have a set of 440 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: rules and a set of morals that I stand on, 441 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: and those keep me safe from the human side of me, 442 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: which is the doubt, which is the fear, which is 443 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: the insecurity, which is which is all the things that 444 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: we all deal with. Right And I tell people all 445 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: the time, create a system for yourself, and that system 446 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: will protect you when the human side, if you tries 447 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: the rear is a little head. Because I believe in 448 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: walking in God's power, because God's power is within me, 449 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 2: and God's power tells me that I am I am 450 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: a creator of my life, and I am a creator 451 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: of all creation. So therefore whatever I see Raseean, I 452 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: can make it happen. But without that set of rules 453 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: in this this manifesto that I call keep heeling the 454 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: things I learned on my bike I would not be 455 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: able to make those things manifest. 456 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Okay. We talked about your past athletic life, we talked 457 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: about you being an actor. We're also discussing on the 458 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: show keep Heeling things I've learned on my bike. But 459 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: as we close out the show your production company, talk 460 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: about that. Seconds now, he's trying to change lives from 461 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: a creative standpoint, talk about that as we close out 462 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: the show. 463 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I created a production company Dedicated Prophecy with 464 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: my partners Lim Collins and Marcus Monroe. During the pandemic, 465 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: we were sitting around and we said, man, the world is 466 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: afraid and scared of his shadow. It's time for us 467 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: to make a move. We formed a company. We did 468 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: four productions in that time, real quick fast in her 469 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: just to put our feet in the ground. And there's 470 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: nothing more fulfilling than being able to a produce my 471 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: own work show what I can do as an actor 472 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: on my own, in my own terms and control my 473 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: own narratives. But the biggest gift I find would produce 474 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: in doing that is being able to give another actor 475 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: that's right behind me or another another opportunity for them 476 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: to shine, for them to have freedom, for them to 477 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: do their thing, and then for one day along their journey, 478 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: they might look up twenty thirty years from now. I'm 479 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: the man. Karan gave me an opportunity, but nobody else 480 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: gave me an opportunity. Or he gave me an opportunity 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: when I needed an opportunity because I was doulling myself. 482 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: And I believe that's my ministry, that's my purpose, is 483 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: to spread spread the positive energy and show my people 484 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: the way through collective building and resources. 485 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Love it, love it. We're speaking to Karan. His book. 486 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: He encouraged the importance of perseverance, resilience and determination. Tell 487 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: us again how we can buy that book. 488 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: Kuran www dot Koran Josephreilly dot com. That's my website. 489 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: You can go on. It's about three clicks and you'll 490 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: have the book. And also I will autograph that book, 491 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: sign it, send you a positive noe to affirmation and 492 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: you will have a piece of my energy forever and ever. 493 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: And also if you just don't feel like going through 494 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: the website, you can go through Amazon or any other 495 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: place that books are sold. 496 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, Karen for taking the time to tell your story. Man. 497 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: It's very motivating and I appreciate any time I talk 498 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 1: to you because you do inspire me. Man, You do 499 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: make me think about other ways that I can look 500 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: at how I get up in the morning, in value 501 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: my hours in the day. Because I know you out 502 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: there peddling. 503 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: Brother, I am man, I am brother. I thank you 504 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: for your mentorship, and I thank you for your friendship, 505 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: and I thank you for your brotherhood. You just keep 506 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: peddling because because we got a lot of a lot 507 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: of wins to make together. 508 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: Brother, I know that's right. You stay strong. That's Karan 509 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Joseph Riley his book. Keep peddling. 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