1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we have some absolutely massive breaking news 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: which is that much anticipated or speculated about. President Joe 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Biden is stepping back from being the Democratic nominee withdrawing 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty four race. He will remain as president. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: He is not resigning that position. I'm going to pull 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: up for you the letter that he posted, which I'm 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: going to be one hundred with you. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: I actually haven't. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Read yet, so we're going to read it together right 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: now in real time, because I wanted to jump on 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: and bring you the news as much as possible, and also, 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: obviously Ryan Grimm here with us to help us pass 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: through what all of this means. So he says, my 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: fellow Americans, over the past three and a half years, 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: we have made great progress as a nation. Today, America 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: has the strongest economy in the world. We've made historic 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: investments in rebuilding our nation, in luring prescription drug costs 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: for seniors, and expanding affordable healthcare to a record number 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: of Americans. We've provided critically needed care to a million 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: veterans exposed to toxic subs sinces past. The first gun 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: safety law on thirty years pointed the first African American 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: woman to the Supreme Court and passed the most significant 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: climate legislation in the history of the world. America has 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: never been better positioned to lead than we are today. 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: I know none of this could have been done without you, 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: the American people. Together, we overcame a once in a 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: century pandemic and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: We have protected and preserved our democracy, and we've revitalized 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: and strengthened our alliances around the world. It has been 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: the greatest honor of my life to serve as your president. 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: And while it has been my intention to seek reelection, 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I believe it is in the best interest of my 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: party and the country for me to stand down and 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: to focus solely on fulfilling my duties as president for 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: the remainder of my term. I will speak to the 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: nation later this week in more detail about my decision. 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: For now, let me express my deepest gratitude to all 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: those who have worked so hard to see me reelected. 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I want to thank Vice President Kamala Harris for being 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: an extraordinary partner in all this work. Let me express 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: my heart felt appreciation to the American people for the 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: faith and trust you have placed in me. I believe 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: today what I always have, that there is nothing America 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: can't do when we do it together. We just have 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: to remember we are the United States of America, signed 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. So, Ryan, a few things that jump out 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: at me right off the jump. First of all, the 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: timing is wild. The RNC just concluded obviously we are 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: weeks away from the DNC, so just an extraordinary moment 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: in history. Second of all, he is withdrawing from the 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: race but remaining as president, not resigning from that position. 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: That was a new push that Republicans in particular were 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: starting to make, but others as well are saying, listen, 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: if you're not fit to run for office, how are 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: you fit to continue to serve in the presidency? Number Three, 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: While he expresses his gratitude to Kamala Harris, his of course, 57 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: vice president, he does not endorse her or any specific 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: process to succeed him as Democratic nominee, here, leaving an 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: open question whether he will do any of that or 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: just leave it open to what comes next. 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: So what is your initial reaction here? 62 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: Yes, all of that, thanking Kamala Harris for being a 63 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: partner in the process, but not endorsing her is huge. 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: It opens up the next several days to be a 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: period of intense jocking Biden, as has been reported basically everywhere. 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 3: Was that King lear levels of resentment and anger over 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: the last several days as he's been being pushed to leave. 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: And Griffin did you say something. 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, Griffin says he just endorsed Kamala Harris. 70 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: So breaking news from Griffin. 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: That he did not endorse her in the letter but 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: waited until afterwards to endorse her might be a way 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: to you know, sanctify the dignity of the Oval office 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: and not sully it with. 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: The political machinations of political machinims. 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: That's how democrats think. That is very Democrat brain. 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: So now you're going to see the entire Now you're 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: going to see a contest between those who are advocating 79 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: for an open convention, such as Nancy Pelosi, such as myself, 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: I rarely agree with Nancy Pelosi, and those who say, look, 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: it's too chaotic, it's too toxic, it's too late. 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: What we need to do. 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: Now is just rally behind Kamala Harris and just right, 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: you know, ride to the elect ride to the general election. 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: So here's the Joe Biden tweet in which he endorses 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. He says, my fellow Democrats, I've decided not 87 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: to accept the nomination to focus all my energies on 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: my duties as president for the remainder of my term. 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: My very first decision as the party nominee in twenty 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: twenty was to pick Kamala Harris as my vice president, 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: and it's been the best decision I've made. Today, I 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala 93 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats, 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: it's time to come together and beat Trump. Let's do this. 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: So we'll see whether the strength of Joe Biden's endorsement 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: of Kamala is enough to completely quiet those like Pelosi 97 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: who reportedly, behind the scenes, had been pushing for an 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: open convention process. I suspect that many of the donors 99 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: also are interested in that open convention process. The reason 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: being that, I mean, if you look at the polling, 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: one of the weakest candidates to run against Trump not 102 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: named Joe Biden is Kamala Harris, at least according to 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the polling today. Now listen, none of that is set 104 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: in stone. She may be sort of I think underappreciated 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: at the moment, given the fact that she just hasn't 106 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: been in the public spotlight that much. You could see 107 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: a bump just based on the fact, oh my god, 108 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: she's not a thousand years old and she can string 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: three sentences together. 110 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: This, this is incredible. 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: But if you're just going by the data at this point, 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: you would look at her compared to a Gretchen Whitmer, 113 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: a Pete Bootage, a Gavin Newsom, Andy Basher, a Josh Shapiro, 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: a Roy Coo. The list goes on and on and on, 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: and say, if you're just concerned with defeating Donald Trump, 116 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: any one of these other candidates is likely to be 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: in a stronger position. The other thing with regards to 118 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, I mean, there are a few things to 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: mention here. Obviously, it goes without saying that her defenders 120 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: will say that it is outrageous to shove aside the 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: first female woman vice president, black woman vice president. They 122 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: will also say voters in the primary, which you know, 123 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: let's put aside the fact there really wasn't a primary, 124 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: but they voted for Biden Harris, so she has more 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: democratic legitimacy. This is the case that they would make 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: for why she should be the presumptive nominee. 127 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: So there's that. 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: There's also the fact that she's been in the public eye, 129 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: so perhaps she's better vetted than other potential candidates who 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: could be a wildcard. On the flip side of all 131 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: of that, Ryan, you know she also we know her weaknesses, 132 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: we know the negatives, and we also know based on 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: polling that the people who are most closely associated with 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: the Biden administration really have a weight around their neck 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: at this point, especially because of the sense of betrayal 136 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: of this administration and the level of cover up that 137 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: they perpetrated on the American public visa via his health concerns. 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: Yea, and I think the argument that she's been vetted 139 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: is one of the flimsiest, and that she's been a 140 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: national figure. It's true that she was vetted during the 141 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen twenty twenty campaign and she absolutely withered under 142 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: the heat of it. So it's not like she was 143 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: vetted and then succeeded in even making it to Iowa, 144 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: like she dropped out before Iowa, because once national tension 145 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: was on her, she crumbled. She was then picked by Biden, 146 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: not as he says, because he thinks she'd be a 147 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: great president, but because that's what he wanted to add to. 148 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: The ticket for electoral purposes. 149 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: There hasn't been a whole lot of focus on her, 150 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: you know, during the Biden Harris administration, to the extent 151 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: it was was about her comment do not come about immigration, 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: or you know, her effort to do voting rights she got. 153 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: She kept getting handed these really impossible tasks, which is 154 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: often what presidents do. That's what Obama did to Joe Biden. 155 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 3: The most scrutiny she got was over her massive staff turmoil. Now, journalistically, 156 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: if Kamal Harris does win, it could be delightful for 157 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: reporters because you know, the vice president's office has been 158 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: toxic and chaotic and filled with leaks. Less so in 159 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: the last you know, six months or so, but for 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: most of the Biden administration. 161 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: Her office was just a disaster. 162 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, just with people rotating in and out constantly and 163 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: leaving and trashing the culture there, which is exactly what 164 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: happened during the campaign. Remember New York Times and Political 165 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 3: and others did the tiktoks about her campaign talking about 166 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: how what a train wreck the entire thing was. Now, 167 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: the reason I think that you're not going to end 168 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 3: up with an open convention is because people like Pelosi 169 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: can manifest the possibility of it, because they have enough 170 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: power to do that, but they can't force anybody to run, 171 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: and that these centrist Democratic candidates are so cowardly and 172 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: cynical and calculating that I don't think, I hope I'm 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: proven wrong here. I don't think any of them will 174 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: even challenge Kamala Harris. My understanding is that they believe 175 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: that because she has establishment endorsements and she's the vice president, 176 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: that she's very difficult to beat, that they will likely 177 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: lose to her, that they would be seen as disloyal, 178 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: and that Harris will lose in the general that they 179 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: would be blamed for her loss or the fact that 180 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: they challenge her, and loss would be considered their. 181 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: Shot, like hey, hey, you had your shot. 182 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: You pulled your ticket, you got your order, get in 183 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: the back of line, and so everybody else. So everybody's like, Okay, 184 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: let's let her lose and then we will run in 185 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, which of course flies in the face 186 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: of all the Democratic arguments that they make that there 187 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: won't be a twenty twenty eight elections, Like, wait a minute, 188 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: which one is it here? 189 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: So I want to come back to this, but I 190 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: do want to back up for a second and just 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Joe Biden's decision making process 192 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: and these extraordinary past several weeks. Obviously, this all began 193 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: with that utterly disastrous debate performance, which Ryan, I want 194 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: to give you an eye will pat on the back 195 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: because in our pre debate coverage, I don't know if 196 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: you remember this, I think we both were saying that 197 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: there is a possibility that he's so bad tonight that 198 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: it is not recoverable. 199 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: And I haven't said a bunch of Democrats were like 200 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: secretly hoping for well. 201 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: Thing, that it would be such a disaster. That's right, 202 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: and that is what unfolds now. I didn't actually expect 203 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: it to be that bad. I thought it would be bad, 204 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: but in the way that. 205 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: It did. 206 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I thought it would be bad in the way that 207 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: he's normally bad. But it was, you know, an extra 208 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: special level of bad, and that has just sent the 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: whole party into a total tail spin. So first you had, 210 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, you had some some early comments that even 211 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: people like David Axerod, you had some immediate jumping on 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: saying this can't this isn't going to work. 213 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: We got to do something else. 214 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Then you had some lower level members of Congress predominantly 215 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: come out and say, all right, it's time for him 216 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: to move on. Just a handful, right, few who came out, 217 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: sort of these you know, little known moderate types. Then 218 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: you started to have the you had the George Clooney 219 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: op ed, and you start to get leaks behind the 220 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: scenes about pressure from donors, about some higher level Democratic 221 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: officials who believed that he needed to step aside. Very 222 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: early on, we had reporting that Schumer was actually glad 223 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: that the debate was so early because he thought that 224 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: this was actually a possibility and wanted to have enough 225 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: time to be able to get another candidate in there. 226 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: So this is happening behind the scenes. But Biden and 227 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: his close in circle were talking Jill Hunter, his sister, 228 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: Steve Ruschetti, Mike Donald, and just a few others outside 229 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: of that are seemingly totally dug in and impervious to 230 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: all of it and just saying absolutely not, I'm in 231 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: on the nominee I'm doing these rallies. I'm going to 232 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: prove it to you. I'm going to do my big 233 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: boy press conference, et cetera. But and then Trump's attempted 234 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: assassination occurs. It sort of quiets the talk for a while. 235 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: At that point, I thought, oh, this is over. This 236 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: is the conversation is over. It's not coming back. That's it. 237 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: But while the conversation was quiet, there was a lot 238 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes. And when the fallout from 239 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Trump's assassination attempt quiets, then you get these more public 240 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: reports and Nancy Pelosi Obama seems to be a primary 241 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: mover and this as well, who decided to go more 242 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: public with their views which had been largely behind the scenes. 243 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: We also had reports about the way the donor cash 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: had just fallen off a cliff. We're talking he was 245 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: bringing in twenty five percent of what he had been previously. 246 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: There's donor efforts going on, and so the sense is, 247 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: and then he gets his COVID diagnosis, The sense is, 248 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and you tell me your view of how this all unfolded, 249 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: that while he very much wanted to stay in, his 250 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: family very much wanted him to stay in, he came 251 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: to a point where you just. 252 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: Realized, there is no way that I can win. 253 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to be out here on an island with 254 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: every major leader and powerbroker in the party against me. 255 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Every Democratic member of Congress and swing state Democrat is 256 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: going to be running against me. I'm not going to 257 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: have money to run ads, and those ads have been 258 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: significantly keeping him afloat to the extent that he's even 259 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: competitive at this point. There is just no way I 260 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: can persist. 261 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he could have held on with 262 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: some cojin appearances after the debate, like it was on 263 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: a razor's edge, Like if he would have come out 264 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: and done nightly press conferences and handled them well. If 265 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: he had done if he'd have done better in the 266 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: Lesser Whole interview, if he'd done better in the George 267 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: step Monopolis interview, if he'd have done better even at 268 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,119 Speaker 3: the NATO press conference where people praised them because you 269 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: remember the names of the countries correctly half the time, 270 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: then he could have survived. But it's not that he 271 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: was nervous, or it was in poor form or whatever. 272 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: He just couldn't. 273 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: He wasn't physically and mentally capable of delivering the kind 274 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: of performance that people needed to say, Okay, you know what, 275 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: you had a bad night, rather than you know, you 276 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: have a degenerative neurological condition. And also the neurologists have 277 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: been saying that one of the symptoms of all of these. 278 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: Different degenerative conditions, regardless of which one he. 279 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: Has, is a rapidly increased amount of stubbornness and a 280 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: col apse of in executive functioning. And anybody who's dealt 281 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: with family members at that stage of their life recognize 282 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: that that increased stubbornness. And for some people who are 283 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: already stubborn, like at Joe Biden, people might think, oh, 284 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: that's just Joe Biden being Joe, but it's actually it's 285 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: beyond Joe. It's stubborness beyond him. So the amount of 286 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: force that was must have been required to get him 287 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: to this place is almost you know, unimaginable. 288 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: That there is. 289 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was also so much behind the scenes. I'm 290 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: just sort of scanning Twitter now to see what, you know, 291 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: other reactions were getting in. But there was also so 292 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: much behind the scenes about First of all, you had 293 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people coming forward and saying, uh, you know, 294 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: with that, how he was at that debate. This was 295 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: what Clooney said in his op ed, and then others 296 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: came out to verify it. What he was at that debate. 297 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: That's who he is now, so you know, and then 298 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: all those pieces, why didn't you do the super Bowl interview? 299 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: Why was he wondering away at the G seven? Why 300 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: did he forget this former Congress, this congress when Jackie 301 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: who had just died weeks ago, Why did he forget 302 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: that she was dead? All of these pieces come together 303 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: and it's really as unseeable. The other thing that came 304 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: out is just the lingering, utter bitterness that he has 305 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: towards Barack Obama, and he was really incensed that. So 306 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: it's Davild Axelrod who sort of leads the charge early 307 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: on the Podsave Bros who are Obama world guys through 308 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and through, are aggressively leading the charge. Then you have 309 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: the Clooney op ed. Clooney also seen as being like 310 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: a cipher for Barack Obama, the Obama Yeah that's exactly right. 311 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Reporting comes out that he's in touch with Obama. And 312 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: then you get reports specifically about Obama now talking to 313 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: people essentially saying yeah, he needs to step aside, and 314 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: Joe and Obama have always had this sort of fraught 315 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: relationship because I think while it was true that they 316 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: had a good working relationship while he was vice president, 317 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: there was also always this sense that Joe felt he 318 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: was looked down upon because you got Obama, this Ivy 319 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: League guy with the super smart brainiac crew, and Joe Biden, 320 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: who's this more old school backslapping, like personal relationship type 321 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: of politician. And those two styles were like oil and water, 322 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: and Biden went to a state school and all of 323 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: those sort of like class driven dynamics as well. So 324 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, the irony here, Ryan that cannot be lost 325 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: is that it was Barack Obama that brings him to 326 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: the dance in the first place by being his vice 327 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: like picking him his vice president. Then he really brings 328 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: him to the dance in the second place by helping 329 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: to clear the field for him when the whole Democratic 330 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: Party establishment unites in order to defeat Bernie Sanders, and 331 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: he ends up being the guy. And so for all 332 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's talk recently about all the elites are 333 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: trying to take me ont et cetera, et cetera, it's like, well, 334 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: your entire presidency was based on the strength of the 335 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: elites in this party. So if he had some sort 336 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: of a ground swell of grassroots support, if he had 337 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: run through a real democratic primary process where he'd had 338 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: to be on a debate stage, and where the field 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, cleared for any of the other establishment 340 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: contenders who are chomping at the bit. If he had 341 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: done those things and had actual democratic support and a 342 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: grassroots fundraising base, then he wouldn't have ended up in 343 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: this place where he cannot go forward without the very 344 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: elites who are the ones who brought him here and 345 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: propped him up and hid his condition, by the way 346 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: in the first place. 347 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen eighty eight he ran, and it was a 348 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: humiliating defeat. Two thousand and eight he ran slow, single 349 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: digits and exactly right. Was then rescued by Obama and 350 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: put on the ticket. Twenty twenty, he ran, finished fourth 351 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 3: in Iowa, fifth in New Hampshire, absolutely clabberd in Nevada, 352 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: and then brought back to life by Obama and Jim Clyburn, 353 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: right ahead of South Carolina and Super Tuesday. So as 354 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: as Congress and Adam Smith said, it is extraordinarily rich 355 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: for Biden to complain that elites, you know, we're orchestrating 356 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: his ouster when, like you said, elites are the only 357 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: reason he became either vice president or president. Right, there 358 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: was there was no The American people had the opportunity 359 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: to name him president multiple times before and decide not 360 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: to only when he was. You know, the alternative being 361 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: Bernie is what is what got the elites. 362 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: To say they got him to focus. 363 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: All right, I guess they've got no choice. I've got 364 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: a John Fetterman reaction for you, Ryan, if you'd like it, 365 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: He says. This is This is from Dave Weigel's Twitter account. 366 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: He says, people push down an honorable man, loving father 367 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and a great president before an absolute sleeze ball like Menendez. Congratulations. 368 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: So Fetterman, Yeah, fair enough, he shouldn't be in the Senate. 369 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: That's fair. 370 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: Although it's funny because it's actually the Republicans who seemingly 371 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: want to rescue Menendez because they don't like, you know, 372 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: going after people for their corruption. They're afraid it looks 373 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: bad on their guys. So I saw a shoot. I 374 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: was just looking for. I do see a Schumer statement, 375 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: But I'm not coming across it right now, but I'm 376 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: sure that we'll get, you know, statements from all of 377 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: the high ranking politicians. I see Jamal Bowman here, he says, 378 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: now that President Biden has suspended his campaign, vice President 379 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is the most qualified and best choice to 380 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: lead us forward. So that is definitely where the debate 381 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: is going to head next. And you know, to go 382 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: back to that. Oh, I see doctor Jill Biden tweeted 383 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: out Joe's letter with just a heart emoji, so that 384 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: was her reaction to his decision. Here Jon Favreau, one 385 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: of the Pod Save guys, he says, a courageous and 386 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: selfless decision. The president did what he's done for the 387 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: last four years. He listened to the American people, but 388 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: the country's interests ahead of his own. The exact opposite 389 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. Not surprised by that framing, obviously, I 390 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: strenuously disagree because all of this like, oh, he's such 391 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: a great man, he's so selfless, blah blah blah. Tell 392 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: that to the babies who don't have limbs or their 393 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: lives or food to eat in Gaza. So spare me 394 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: that one. And I do want to ask you about that, 395 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: because not that I have great hopes that Kamala Harris 396 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: or any one of these Democrats is going to be like, 397 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, shown up with a watermelon T shirt anytime soon, 398 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: or affirmatively like truly pro Palestine. But I am I 399 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: am somewhat hopeful that they may be less terrible than 400 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has been, simply because first of all, I 401 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: do think there's an age issue, you know, I think 402 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: anyone younger has, at least like Barack Obama did, has 403 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: at least somewhat of a different view of this conflict. 404 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: That's number one. 405 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Number two Bibi Netanya, who has turned himself into a 406 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: partisan figure, and this started in the Obama administration when 407 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: he shows up speaks to Congress in order to try 408 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: to block the Iranian nuclear deal, which in my opinion, 409 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: was one of the greatest accomplishments of the Obama Biden administration. 410 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: It's no secret that bib would rather have Donald Trump 411 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: in office. So I am somewhat hopeful that just an 412 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: out of the box, normy Democrat of the sort that 413 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris basically is, would view this through more of 414 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: a partisan lens in a way that happens to be 415 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: somewhat more pro Palestine or less just like fervently pro Israel. 416 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Yeah, 417 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: then Joe Biden has been who is clearly ideologically dug 418 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: in on this issue. 419 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: I think this is the end of an era of 420 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: democratic ideological fealty that leads to one on apologetic support 421 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: for Israel. I think, obviously, the the I think obviously 422 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 3: like the Democrats, will lean heavily towards Israel. But it 423 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: won't be It won't be in the Biden like Biden, 424 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: It'll be Palestinians at least. 425 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: Will have a shot. Hey, our buddy Dmitri Melhorn just 426 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: sent me his statement. 427 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: Remind people who's demetrious misch Melhorn was. 428 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: He was Reid Hoffman's right hand man up until they 429 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: parted ways just a couple of days ago, and now 430 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: he joined the Lincoln project. Read Hoffman the Lincoln billionaire. 431 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: Melhorne says, Kamala Harris is the American dream personified, daughter 432 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: of immigrants who met at cal She has also toughness personified, 433 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: rising from my hometown of Oakland, California, to become the 434 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: top prosecutor of the state was grant and Joe stepping back. 435 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to help elect president Harris. That's your 436 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: kind of Lincoln Project centrist community. 437 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: Gotcha. 438 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: I've got a ron Klain tweet for you here. Now 439 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: that the donors and electeds have pushed out the only 440 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: candidate who has ever beaten Trump run claim of course, 441 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: being Biden's initial chief of staff, it's time to end 442 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: the political fantasy games and unite behind the only veteran 443 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: of a national campaign, our outstanding VP Kamala Harris. 444 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: Let's get real and win in November. 445 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: You also, you don't have a number of the coconut 446 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: pilled lefty crew who are excited about the gabblers endorsement. 447 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: I like you, Ryan, agree that it would be better 448 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: listen the time to have an actually democratic process. Unfortunately 449 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: they passed by Well they've got five weeks, right, but 450 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: we could have had like actual primaries and a normal 451 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: process if they hadn't been so committed to hiding Joe 452 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Biden's true health condition from the American people with. 453 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: His whole I'm going to be a bridge candidate one 454 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: term they primary. That is going to get my. 455 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: Uber great point as well. All right, why don't you 456 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: drop off and I'll wrap this up. Ryan's going to 457 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: be in a studio with me tomorrow. By Ryan then, 458 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: So in any cases we were saying, you know, if 459 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: they had had a true primary process, then there was 460 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity to do this in actual democratic fashion. They 461 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: decided to not have any debates, They decided to not 462 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: even house a primary in many states. They decided to 463 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: really circle the wagon is to make sure that no 464 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: establishment candidate, you know, national competitor could emerge from that process. 465 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: And so now you're left with this very short time frame, 466 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: just a number of weeks before the DNC convention, and 467 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: so I think it is very likely at this point 468 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: that you know, the wagons basically get circled around Kamala. 469 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: Ryan is probably correct that just as they decided to 470 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: take a pass in the fall after the midterms, any 471 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: of the larger named national establishment Democrat figures will probably 472 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: also take a pass and decide it is in their 473 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: personal political self interest just to get behind Kamala. That's 474 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: probably what we're going to see. So in terms of 475 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: her odds for the fall, you know, I think probably 476 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: tomorrow Ryan and I are gonna have to totally reschedule 477 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: our show, like figure out what we're having in the 478 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: show tomorrow, because we had a run down locked in 479 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: that looked very nice. But now obviously that's totally different 480 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: world that we're living in today. But I suspect we'll 481 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: go through the polling about how she matches up Visa v. Trump, 482 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: and look, she's got an uphill climb. You know, she's 483 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: starting the campaign late. Now they've sort of got the 484 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: campaign in the box. They know how they want to 485 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: run against Donald Trump. The public Larrety very much has 486 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: feelings about Donald Trump, and those feelings are largely negative. However, 487 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: she has been she has had her own weaknesses as 488 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: a national candidate. She is tied to the Biden Harris administration, 489 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: which is unpopular, not you know, solely because partly because 490 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: of the lies and the cover up in the betrayal 491 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: of American people Visavi his health condition. So she has 492 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: a lot to overcome. But you know, looking today, unless 493 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: there is a major organized like Dodor revolt Nancy Pelosi 494 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: at all coming out to not only push the president aside, 495 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: but also push aside his vice president and the woman 496 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: that he just endorsed, I think it's very likely that 497 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: we are going to have Vice President Kamala Harris sliding 498 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: into the top spot as the Democratic nominee, and then 499 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: that raises questions about who she will pick as her 500 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: vice president contender. There has been a lot of speculation 501 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: about this already. Roy Cooper, the governor of North Carolina, 502 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: has been mentioned quite a bit. Andy Basher, the governor 503 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: of Kentucky, who is quite popular in Kentucky even as 504 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: a Democrat, one of actually the most popular governors in 505 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: the country, even as a Democrat in a red state, 506 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: He has been mentioned quite a bit. I'm sure there 507 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: will will be other names that are added to that 508 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: potential list. I did see a report as well that 509 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: donors were funding an effort to go ahead and vet 510 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: some of these possible vice presidential picks. So some other 511 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: things for us to take a deeper look at tomorrow. 512 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: But I'll just wrap it here from now. I got 513 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: a million thoughts. I could go on all day, but 514 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: I want to get this video posted so I can 515 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: get it out to you all too. Bottom line, Joe 516 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: Biden withdrawing from the presidential race, endorsing his vice president 517 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, and we are in unprecedented Times,