WEBVTT - Tennessee's Botched Execution (10/01) 0:00:00.670 --> 0:00:04.250 KFI AM 640, you're listening to the John Cobell Podcast 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:11.500 on the iHeartRadio app. KFI AM 640, live everywhere on 0:00:11.539 --> 0:00:16.960 the iHeartRadio app. You're here on a good day. We 0:00:16.980 --> 0:00:20.220 have a podcast coming out after 6 o'clock tonight. It'll 0:00:20.260 --> 0:00:22.440 be the next three hours of the radio show, so 0:00:22.460 --> 0:00:24.800 if you miss anything, and you're not going to want 0:00:24.820 --> 0:00:27.860 to miss anything at all, so you'll listen to the 0:00:27.900 --> 0:00:31.690 podcast after 6 o'clock. And we're live streaming on X 0:00:31.790 --> 0:00:33.840 and YouTube. X and YouTube is where you can go 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:40.440 and watch. Okay, big program today. Excuse me. We've got 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.699 Steve Hilton coming on after the 5 o'clock news. Steve 0:00:44.740 --> 0:00:47.180 Hilton at 5 o'clock coming off the debate last night 0:00:47.540 --> 0:00:51.130 with Javier Baccaria. 4 o'clock hour, we're going to lead 0:00:51.250 --> 0:00:54.590 off with a friend of mine, Dr. Jeffrey Klausner. an 0:00:54.630 --> 0:00:59.240 infectious disease specialist at USC Keck School of Medicine, to 0:00:59.300 --> 0:01:04.039 talk about the typhus outbreak, one of the largest typhus 0:01:04.140 --> 0:01:06.980 outbreaks this year that the city of Los Angeles has 0:01:07.180 --> 0:01:14.020 ever had. And the typhus comes from flea feces, fleas 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.979 that sit atop rats. The rats are in the homeless 0:01:18.020 --> 0:01:22.250 encampment eating all the food and garbage that the vagrants 0:01:22.310 --> 0:01:27.000 leave behind. So the mental patients leave their food out, 0:01:27.340 --> 0:01:31.380 the rats come, the fleas jump on the rats, the 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:35.280 fleas take a poop on you or your dog, and 0:01:35.580 --> 0:01:38.840 you got typhus, which is a really nasty thing. About 90% 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.440 of the people who get it in this outbreak end 0:01:41.459 --> 0:01:46.440 up in the hospital. So that's exciting news. And in 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.200 about a half an hour, we're going to have Alex 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:53.809 Stone from ABC News on The double botched execution in Tennessee. 0:01:53.850 --> 0:01:58.470 They tried to kill a woman, a murderer named Krista Pike. 0:01:58.810 --> 0:02:02.490 They tried twice with lethal injection and blew it both times. 0:02:03.090 --> 0:02:07.020 She ended up snoring. Supposed to kill her, and they 0:02:07.060 --> 0:02:12.000 just put her in a snore state. So that's all 0:02:12.060 --> 0:02:18.900 I had. Now, last night was Hilton and Baccaria. And 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:23.579 I spent, I listened, like, on the drive home from 0:02:23.620 --> 0:02:26.419 work because things started at 6 o'clock for about, I 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.790 don't know, 40 minutes. I guess about half of it. 0:02:29.900 --> 0:02:32.220 And then I have seen a lot of clips since. 0:02:33.020 --> 0:02:41.930 And Pacqueria is just awful. He has zero ideas. He 0:02:42.110 --> 0:02:44.250 is going to be over his head. He does not 0:02:44.310 --> 0:02:48.960 have any executive skills. He does not have any. intelligent 0:02:49.020 --> 0:02:54.970 analysis on anything. All he said over and over again, Trump. 0:02:56.050 --> 0:03:01.530 Do you know how many times he said Trump? 40. 0:03:01.530 --> 0:03:07.579 CNN reported, it was their debate, 40 times he went Trump. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:18.930 No matter the issue. Now that's... That's not... A plan 0:03:18.970 --> 0:03:19.790 for California. 0:03:21.230 --> 0:03:24.450 It's not like this is the mid-90s and we're sailing 0:03:24.510 --> 0:03:28.929 along with a dot-com boom and a crazy good economy. 0:03:31.250 --> 0:03:33.690 There's a lot of trouble out there, out in the streets. 0:03:34.150 --> 0:03:37.330 There's a lot of vagrants all over the place. There's 0:03:37.330 --> 0:03:42.890 $ 6. 50 gasoline that no other state comes near. There's the 0:03:42.950 --> 0:03:46.630 high-speed rail bleeding us of tens of millions of dollars. 0:03:48.270 --> 0:03:52.380 There's all these excessive taxes. There's this massive amount of 0:03:52.460 --> 0:03:56.360 fraud for Medicare, Medicaid, and all the other government services. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.680 And he had no response to any of it. Didn't 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.530 acknowledge anything. Just would say, Trump, Trump, Trump. Because Trump 0:04:04.570 --> 0:04:08.270 endorsed Steve Hilton. Because Hilton used to work for Fox News. 0:04:08.810 --> 0:04:12.150 That's not a campaign. And I can't believe how many people, 0:04:12.290 --> 0:04:15.350 you know, I actually read some comments today in various articles, 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.670 which I normally don't do. Because people who comment in 0:04:17.710 --> 0:04:21.729 newspapers are morons. But the morons are saying things like, 0:04:22.110 --> 0:04:26.589 you know, I really would like a moderate Republican like Hilton. 0:04:26.610 --> 0:04:28.630 You know, there's a lot of common sense things he's saying. 0:04:28.970 --> 0:04:31.420 But anybody who's ever been connected to Trump, I just 0:04:31.510 --> 0:04:36.240 simply can't. Oh, my God. People are mentally ill. I'm sorry. 0:04:36.300 --> 0:04:39.700 Much of this state is mentally ill. You really are. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:44.590 And childish. Look at what Hilton's laying out. I've never 0:04:44.610 --> 0:04:48.550 seen a candidate lay out so much detail for specific 0:04:48.630 --> 0:04:53.310 programs that seem to make sense to address a lot 0:04:53.350 --> 0:04:56.369 of the things that's gone haywire. Most of the people 0:04:56.430 --> 0:05:01.950 in the state, huge majority, says things are on the 0:05:01.980 --> 0:05:06.480 wrong track. Things are not good here. And they list 0:05:06.540 --> 0:05:12.360 what's wrong. And so you have one candidate who says, yes, 0:05:12.580 --> 0:05:16.140 all that's wrong. And here's what I do to fix it. 0:05:16.170 --> 0:05:17.810 And it's not pie in the sky stuff. A lot 0:05:17.830 --> 0:05:19.849 of this is common sense because a lot of these 0:05:19.890 --> 0:05:23.430 issues are self-inflicted. And you just stop shooting yourself in 0:05:23.450 --> 0:05:27.560 the foot and in all the other body parts. And 0:05:27.580 --> 0:05:32.040 then the other guy is Trump. Now, I'm going to 0:05:32.060 --> 0:05:34.440 play you a clip. I'll play you several clips today. 0:05:36.260 --> 0:05:42.659 This is one clip where Javier Baccaria went dirty against 0:05:42.700 --> 0:05:47.950 Steve Hilton for being an immigrant. Cut number three. 0:05:48.350 --> 0:05:51.590 Steve, you're running for governor of California, and you'll enforce 0:05:51.930 --> 0:05:54.400 Trump's laws at the federal level, but you won't enforce 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:59.359 state laws at our level. California welcomed you into California. 0:06:00.339 --> 0:06:03.880 And you welcomed ICE mercenaries into our state in return. 0:06:04.300 --> 0:06:06.920 How do you square that? You know, you're an immigrant. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.020 I have fought all my life to make life better 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.110 for immigrants, to represent them well, to defend them, to 0:06:13.130 --> 0:06:16.110 let them grow and build like my parents. But here's 0:06:16.130 --> 0:06:18.950 the problem I have with your policies. You seem to 0:06:19.010 --> 0:06:23.190 welcome immigrants who look like you, but deport immigrants who 0:06:23.210 --> 0:06:25.520 look like me. We need to have a governor who 0:06:25.540 --> 0:06:28.460 will protect everyone who works hard. I don't need to... 0:06:28.860 --> 0:06:31.360 stand here and listen to you say that you'll enforce 0:06:31.420 --> 0:06:35.719 Trump's laws, but you won't enforce California state laws. You're 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:36.640 not enforcing. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.870 And your party isn't enforcing California law as it is now. 0:06:42.270 --> 0:06:45.450 And what a disgraceful remark that was. I don't think 0:06:45.490 --> 0:06:47.830 people want to hear that kind of remark in a 0:06:47.870 --> 0:06:48.590 debate like this. 0:06:48.650 --> 0:06:51.390 Then why would you deport every farm worker in California? 0:06:51.950 --> 0:06:54.210 Why only farm workers? That's what you said. 0:06:54.230 --> 0:06:57.690 What people want to hear is solutions to their problems 0:06:58.130 --> 0:07:04.420 not these unpleasant political attacks that don't help anyone, immigrant 0:07:04.540 --> 0:07:07.500 or not, with the problems that they're facing, the cost 0:07:07.540 --> 0:07:10.560 of living, all of the problems that you have no 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.110 solutions to whatsoever. So all you've got is to talk 0:07:14.150 --> 0:07:19.090 about federal politics. All you ever say is Trump, Trump, Trump. 0:07:19.650 --> 0:07:24.690 And that's nothing but an insult to every Californian who 0:07:24.750 --> 0:07:27.740 is desperate for something to change in this state. And 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.780 all you're offering is more of the same. 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.200 Your words, Trump, Trump, Trump, because he is your supporter. 0:07:34.220 --> 0:07:36.900 You chased his endorsement. That's all you can say on 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.230 every question. And you just said it too, and your 0:07:39.260 --> 0:07:40.360 policies say it every day. 0:07:40.370 --> 0:07:42.890 Because you've got nothing to offer Californians except more of 0:07:42.930 --> 0:07:43.310 the same. 0:07:43.390 --> 0:07:49.190 Let's use your words. You said Trump's ICE immigration policies 0:07:49.230 --> 0:07:54.150 in his raids were your words. Perfect. You said that 0:07:54.540 --> 0:07:58.330 every farm worker in California should be deported. Your words. 0:07:58.350 --> 0:08:00.390 That's simply not true. Those are your words, Steve. 0:08:00.410 --> 0:08:01.690 Again, because he's got no arguments. 0:08:01.710 --> 0:08:02.869 Don't try to keep your own words. 0:08:02.910 --> 0:08:06.810 Because he's got no arguments and no solutions and nothing 0:08:06.850 --> 0:08:10.490 to say about how he would change anything about how 0:08:10.570 --> 0:08:11.730 California is run. 0:08:11.770 --> 0:08:14.670 Do you deny that you said that Trump's immigration raids 0:08:14.730 --> 0:08:18.130 are perfect? All that he's got are these insults. Here's 0:08:18.150 --> 0:08:20.750 your chance to deny that you said Trump's immigration raids 0:08:20.810 --> 0:08:21.210 are perfect. 0:08:22.490 --> 0:08:26.850 Becerra does what everybody in his camp has done for 0:08:26.950 --> 0:08:32.540 decades now. The people that were being deported, it's not 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.320 because of the color or their ethnicity. It's because they 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:40.080 were legal. Steve Hilton was a legal immigrant from England. 0:08:40.100 --> 0:08:44.900 It's like my dad was a legal immigrant from Poland. 0:08:46.290 --> 0:08:50.809 Nobody's touching legal immigrants. We had an illegal immigrant problem, 0:08:51.290 --> 0:08:54.190 and the vast majority of them came from south of 0:08:54.210 --> 0:08:58.839 the border, from Mexico and Central America. And they have 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.300 been using, and that was by design, they intentionally left 0:09:02.380 --> 0:09:08.020 the southern border open to let Mexican illegal aliens and 0:09:08.070 --> 0:09:14.290 Hondurans and El Salvadorans into the country. You're not going 0:09:14.309 --> 0:09:17.829 to get Norwegians and Swedes coming over the Mexican border. 0:09:19.090 --> 0:09:22.730 There wasn't an issue at the Canadian border. There's not 0:09:22.790 --> 0:09:25.830 so much an issue at the airports on the East 0:09:25.850 --> 0:09:29.790 Coast with people flying in from Europe illegally. Much of 0:09:29.809 --> 0:09:34.209 the problem was at the Mexican border. So obviously, you're 0:09:34.230 --> 0:09:39.280 going to get people who are largely Hispanic. And for, God, 0:09:39.300 --> 0:09:43.860 about 30 years, they've been playing that game to try 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.740 to make it some kind of racist attack. That's where 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:52.620 the illegal aliens are coming from. And whether Hilton said 0:09:52.660 --> 0:09:56.230 it or not, if the farm workers are illegal, then 0:09:56.250 --> 0:09:59.050 they don't have a legal right to be here. You 0:09:59.070 --> 0:10:01.569 can set up a program. for them to give them 0:10:01.750 --> 0:10:12.250 temporary status or work towards permanent status. And furthermore, federal 0:10:12.290 --> 0:10:18.480 law supersedes state law. This idea that Hilton wants to 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.800 enforce federal law. Well, federal law must be enforced. In fact, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:26.250 it's the feds who will enforce it for themselves. And 0:10:26.270 --> 0:10:30.429 they come here frequently and override all the interference from 0:10:30.490 --> 0:10:34.189 state and local governments regarding immigration. That's why we had 0:10:34.490 --> 0:10:39.550 all those clashes in Los Angeles. It's because state sanctuary 0:10:39.630 --> 0:10:45.670 laws are not a real thing federally. You can't have 0:10:45.710 --> 0:10:50.440 a state sanctuary law that overrides federal law. And Becerra 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.920 keeps trying to sell this nonsense. Again, it's repackaged the 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.720 same old crappy, tired arguments that have been going on 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.670 for 30 years. More coming up. 0:11:00.540 --> 0:11:07.380 You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.420 John Kobelt Show, KFI AM 640. More stimulating talk radio. 0:11:11.460 --> 0:11:16.880 Moistline for Friday is 877-MOIST-86. 877-MOIST-86. You use the talkback 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:21.100 feature on the iHeartRadio app. So, Steve Hilton coming on 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:25.160 after 5 o'clock today. Becerra and Hilton last night, and 0:11:25.179 --> 0:11:29.160 we played you the first clip where Becerra basically, in 0:11:29.330 --> 0:11:35.730 coded language, accused Hilton of being a racist. That he 0:11:35.950 --> 0:11:41.229 approves of immigration for people who look like himself, Steve Hilton. And, uh, 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.870 and is against immigration for people who look like Becerra. 0:11:46.750 --> 0:11:51.990 And it was a real, ugly, cheap, racist shot from Becerra. 0:11:53.290 --> 0:11:55.250 There were no content in his answers at all. We're 0:11:55.270 --> 0:11:59.340 going to play you a few more clips, and you'll see. 0:12:00.220 --> 0:12:05.600 He is counting, and whoever crafts his campaign messages, because 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.880 I don't think Becerra can craft anything on his own, 0:12:09.450 --> 0:12:12.090 has decided that the Trump name is so incendiary to 0:12:12.130 --> 0:12:13.929 so many people, you just have to repeat it over 0:12:13.990 --> 0:12:17.510 and over again, and people go blind. They go blind, 0:12:17.650 --> 0:12:20.340 and they go deaf, and they shut down all their senses, 0:12:20.860 --> 0:12:23.280 which is an incredibly stupid way to analyze all the 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:28.900 problems here. We have incredibly high prices, incredibly high prices 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.680 when it comes to housing, when it comes to everything 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.920 from groceries, gasoline. The gasoline is $ 2. 50 higher than other states. 0:12:38.830 --> 0:12:43.840 And Becerra's answer to everything is Trump. And, you know, 0:12:43.860 --> 0:12:46.780 the moderators don't call him out on it. Hilton did. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.300 Here's an example of more cheap, stupid slogans that Becerra 0:12:52.340 --> 0:12:57.089 was chanting. This is about cutting red tape to make 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.989 housing more affordable. Cut number two. 0:12:59.230 --> 0:13:00.490 And the final thing I'll do is what I did 0:13:00.510 --> 0:13:02.730 when I was AG. I will enforce the law that 0:13:02.750 --> 0:13:05.750 requires local governments to build. Mr. 0:13:05.790 --> 0:13:05.949 Hilton? 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.680 He hasn't explained how he would actually reduce the cost 0:13:11.059 --> 0:13:11.620 of housing. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:12.800 We have the highest. 0:13:13.020 --> 0:13:13.620 No, you didn't. 0:13:13.660 --> 0:13:16.370 You said that... I would cut red tape. 0:13:16.380 --> 0:13:19.780 What's the track record that you've shown in standing up 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.890 to the legislature in Sacramento when you were there as 0:13:22.950 --> 0:13:26.370 Attorney General? You did nothing to push back against the 0:13:26.470 --> 0:13:29.429 cost and the craziness of that legislature. 0:13:29.470 --> 0:13:31.230 You can make up the facts. I could get into 0:13:31.250 --> 0:13:32.870 that if you like, but you can make up the facts. 0:13:32.929 --> 0:13:35.750 Tell us one thing you did when you were State 0:13:35.809 --> 0:13:39.290 Attorney General... to push back against the growth of red 0:13:39.350 --> 0:13:41.130 tape on housing and everything else. 0:13:41.170 --> 0:13:41.830 Just one thing. 0:13:41.870 --> 0:13:42.090 Sure. 0:13:42.550 --> 0:13:44.890 I sued the city of Huntington. 0:13:44.460 --> 0:13:47.640 Beach, Steve. That's more red tape, not less. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:48.000 No, no. 0:13:48.260 --> 0:13:51.460 It's enforcing the law because Huntington Beach was not following 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.610 state law, which required it to encourage building in its community. 0:13:56.020 --> 0:13:59.640 And so they were not following the law as attorney general. 0:14:00.020 --> 0:14:03.140 I enforced the law. And guess what? We won because 0:14:03.220 --> 0:14:06.740 Huntington Beach was denying permits. And we have to build. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.590 And no locality should have the right to try to 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.470 stop all of our people in California from having the 0:14:12.510 --> 0:14:14.890 housing they need, even Huntington Beach. 0:14:14.970 --> 0:14:18.090 We've got communities up and down the state. that want 0:14:18.130 --> 0:14:22.030 to build, but they're being stopped from building by the legislation, 0:14:22.170 --> 0:14:25.150 the regulations, and the red tape that his party has 0:14:25.210 --> 0:14:25.810 put in place. 0:14:25.950 --> 0:14:28.920 And I said I would cut the red tape. Why should... 0:14:28.940 --> 0:14:29.960 It's like your question. 0:14:30.300 --> 0:14:33.960 The definition of insanity is believing that the people who 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.700 put the red tape in place are now somehow going 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:37.560 to cut. 0:14:39.540 --> 0:14:46.900 It. Becerra repeatedly had no examples. He just had... bumper 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.500 sticker lines because he knew he knows he has so 0:14:51.540 --> 0:14:55.520 many votes allegedly locked up that nobody can be swayed 0:14:55.590 --> 0:15:02.490 by any intelligent analysis. And so the disconnect here between 0:15:03.450 --> 0:15:07.530 people being upset with the way California is run and 0:15:07.670 --> 0:15:10.030 voting for a guy who's made it clear he's going 0:15:10.050 --> 0:15:14.109 to extend nearly all the Newsom policies, that makes no sense. 0:15:15.570 --> 0:15:17.510 You get this guy in, it'll be eight more years 0:15:17.570 --> 0:15:20.240 of Newsom policies, and you don't like the way things 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:25.080 are going. Well, what's the alternative? Well, the alternative is 0:15:25.100 --> 0:15:28.540 Steve Hill. Oh, it's Trump. No, it's not Trump. Trump 0:15:28.580 --> 0:15:31.060 has nothing to do with any of these issues. This 0:15:31.140 --> 0:15:36.110 is so incredibly frustrating. This is so childish that people 0:15:36.150 --> 0:15:39.810 keep repeating that over and over again. He's got nothing 0:15:39.830 --> 0:15:43.390 to do with it. If we're $ 2. 50 more other states 0:15:44.010 --> 0:15:47.350 in gas prices, that's on our state government. That's what 0:15:47.390 --> 0:15:50.750 they decided to do. If we have the highest housing costs, 0:15:51.230 --> 0:15:55.190 that's on us for all the regulation that we have 0:15:55.290 --> 0:16:00.130 on the housing industry, all the environmental regulation that chokes development. 0:16:00.630 --> 0:16:05.400 That's on us. I just don't understand this. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.000 Makes no sense. 0:16:11.530 --> 0:16:18.340 This is– Hilton really went after Becerra here. He quoted 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:25.080 in this clip Susan Rice, another former Biden campaign cabinet person. 0:16:25.830 --> 0:16:28.970 I forgot what exactly role she played under Joe Biden, 0:16:29.010 --> 0:16:32.770 but Susan Rice did not like Javier Becerra, and Hilton 0:16:32.790 --> 0:16:34.210 recounts the story here. 0:16:34.450 --> 0:16:37.490 What I've never done is what you've done in your 0:16:37.490 --> 0:16:41.220 36 years as a career politician, where you've never created 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.300 a job, you've never actually. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.340 Had to make any money of your own. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.760 All you've ever done is spent other people's money in 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.350 every government job you've had. According to your Democrat colleagues, 0:16:51.970 --> 0:16:55.130 The ones who worked with you, like Susan Rice, who 0:16:55.190 --> 0:16:57.550 worked with you side by side when you were in 0:16:57.570 --> 0:16:58.630 the Biden cabinet. 0:16:59.010 --> 0:17:01.970 She described you as an idiot. She called you. 0:17:03.340 --> 0:17:07.180 Why did Susan Rice, a respected political leader, call you 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:07.680 an idiot? 0:17:08.580 --> 0:17:11.080 First, let me correct the record. I have helped create 0:17:11.780 --> 0:17:15.170 millions of jobs during my services. a member of Congress, 0:17:15.450 --> 0:17:17.909 in preserving the protections for the state of California when 0:17:17.950 --> 0:17:20.510 I was Attorney General, when Trump was attacking us. And 0:17:20.590 --> 0:17:22.630 as Secretary of Health and Human Services, I expanded health 0:17:22.650 --> 0:17:26.090 care to more Americans, which required more doctors, more hospitals. 0:17:26.369 --> 0:17:29.150 So unlike what you've just said, Steve, the facts show 0:17:29.190 --> 0:17:31.910 that I've helped create jobs. But to your point, since 0:17:31.970 --> 0:17:34.740 when do I have to respond to politicians? I'm running 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.179 for governor of California. I'm looking for the vote of 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:46.109 California voters, not some politician in Washington, D.C., Does anybody. 0:17:45.869 --> 0:17:48.330 Out there have a job that was created by Javier 0:17:48.350 --> 0:17:51.710 Becerra for you? I love it when these guys go, 0:17:51.890 --> 0:17:56.050 I created jobs. Whose job did you create? Really, send 0:17:56.109 --> 0:18:00.629 us a message if Javier Becerra created your job. We're 0:18:00.650 --> 0:18:02.590 going to play more of these clips coming up in 0:18:02.609 --> 0:18:05.470 the 5 o'clock hour because we have Steve Hilton. Coming 0:18:05.590 --> 0:18:08.649 on right after Debra's news at 5 o'clock. Next, we're 0:18:08.670 --> 0:18:12.649 going to talk about a double-botched execution in Tennessee of 0:18:12.710 --> 0:18:15.470 a murderer named Krista Pike. They were going to kill 0:18:15.490 --> 0:18:18.369 the first woman in 200 years in Tennessee, and they 0:18:18.390 --> 0:18:18.909 couldn't do it. 0:18:19.060 --> 0:18:19.389 Twice. 0:18:20.230 --> 0:18:23.900 Debra Mark, live at KFI 24. Girl power. Yeah, boy, 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:24.879 she's a tough lady. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:25.640 She's tough. 0:18:25.660 --> 0:18:29.700 Can you imagine taking two execution attempts and her response 0:18:29.740 --> 0:18:32.419 is to snore? That's all that happened. 0:18:33.980 --> 0:18:38.409 You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640. 0:18:38.410 --> 0:18:44.850 KFI AM 640, more stimulating talk radio. It's the John 0:18:44.910 --> 0:18:50.369 Kobelt Show. We got a podcast coming out after 6 0:18:50.369 --> 0:18:52.170 o'clock tonight. You want to listen to it in case 0:18:52.210 --> 0:18:55.000 you missed any part of the radio show that's going 0:18:55.060 --> 0:18:59.050 on here this afternoon. Now let's turn to Alex Stone 0:18:59.109 --> 0:19:04.100 from ABC News. In Tennessee, they tried to execute the 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.520 first female in over 200 years, a woman named Krista Pike. 0:19:09.170 --> 0:19:11.070 And I'll say right up front what her crime is, 0:19:11.130 --> 0:19:13.630 because often the crime is buried way at the back 0:19:13.670 --> 0:19:17.410 of the story. But Pike was on death row back 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.060 in 1995. She lured another woman into a wooded area, 0:19:22.540 --> 0:19:26.020 tortured her with a box cutter, carved a pentagram into 0:19:26.060 --> 0:19:28.620 her chest, and then smashed her head with a piece 0:19:28.660 --> 0:19:32.720 of asphalt and claimed a piece of the woman's skull 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:37.190 as a souvenir. And so in Tennessee, that was considered 0:19:37.250 --> 0:19:42.149 sufficiently depraved to be executed. Now here, wow, 1995. So 0:19:42.170 --> 0:19:46.920 we're talking about 31 years later. Is that right? Except 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:52.820 the execution was botched twice. lethal injection they attempted twice 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:55.879 and at the end of it she's still alive and 0:19:55.940 --> 0:20:00.830 snoring krista pike so let's get uh alex stone abc 0:20:00.869 --> 0:20:03.430 news to explain this Alex, explain this. 0:20:03.930 --> 0:20:06.650 Hey, John. Yeah, it went really wrong last night. And 0:20:06.790 --> 0:20:08.630 there's a lot of people trying to figure out what 0:20:08.670 --> 0:20:11.730 it was. And Krista Pike, she got the two doses 0:20:11.810 --> 0:20:14.359 of the lethal drugs. She did not die. And at 0:20:14.390 --> 0:20:18.820 that point, the state corrections department called off the execution 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.679 and called in an ambulance to kind of reset and 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.139 figure out what was going on. And, in fact, in 0:20:24.180 --> 0:20:27.399 the handbook of the Tennessee Corrections Department, it says if 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.239 the first dose does not work, you give a second dose. And, 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.510 you know, no way will somebody live beyond the second dose. Well, 0:20:33.530 --> 0:20:36.310 they had no guidance on what to do if somebody 0:20:36.350 --> 0:20:39.130 was alive after the second dose of this and she 0:20:39.170 --> 0:20:42.560 was still alive. This afternoon, her attorney, I'll let him 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:43.560 say it, he put it like this. 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.960 Krista is alive right now. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:50.280 We don't have a sense of her prognosis or much 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.520 update on her health at the moment. And he contends 0:20:53.700 --> 0:20:57.530 that what happened last night was inefficient, obviously, but he says, 0:20:57.550 --> 0:20:59.369 you know, for any human, that it was cruel and 0:20:59.430 --> 0:21:01.490 torturous what was going on. So reporters who were in 0:21:01.510 --> 0:21:04.450 there as witnesses, as they typically are during an execution, 0:21:05.010 --> 0:21:08.340 They said that during it, she was asking if this 0:21:08.390 --> 0:21:10.859 was normal because her arm felt like it was going 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.400 to explode full of liquid. And as they were injecting 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.980 her and then she went into a kind of a 0:21:17.050 --> 0:21:20.610 sleep state, but they could hear her snoring and kind 0:21:20.650 --> 0:21:23.890 of making a whining noise as she was snoring. but 0:21:23.930 --> 0:21:27.250 that she never died, and she just kept breathing. And 0:21:27.790 --> 0:21:29.800 that's then when an ambulance was brought in, and they 0:21:29.820 --> 0:21:32.320 took her away with the lights and siren going. Today, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.340 the governor of Tennessee says the people of the state 0:21:34.380 --> 0:21:37.540 have chosen the death penalty. He respects that. But he 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:38.700 says they've got to figure out how they're going to 0:21:38.740 --> 0:21:41.379 move forward with it and what happened last night, because 0:21:41.460 --> 0:21:44.820 it went very wrong. The governor, Republican Bill Lee, he 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.520 is putting a moratorium on executions at this point while 0:21:47.540 --> 0:21:49.640 they try to figure this out. He put it like this. No, 0:21:50.340 --> 0:21:56.619 the estate... of hers and all executions under my watch 0:21:58.340 --> 0:21:59.960 by the end of the year going forward. So this 0:22:00.060 --> 0:22:04.070 is failed execution number two for Tennessee this year. In May, 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:07.250 there was an inmate that they failed after more than 0:22:07.270 --> 0:22:09.190 an hour trying to get an IV in his arm, 0:22:09.270 --> 0:22:10.810 and then it didn't work, and they had to call 0:22:10.830 --> 0:22:13.409 that one off. So the last successful one was at 0:22:13.430 --> 0:22:15.530 the end of last year after they've had these two 0:22:15.590 --> 0:22:18.970 failed executions. Now, One thing that's surprising to a lot 0:22:19.010 --> 0:22:22.570 of people, John, is that doctors don't do lethal injections. 0:22:22.609 --> 0:22:26.580 Because of their oath, the AMA and other medical associations 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.120 have ordered them not to take part in killing somebody. 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.680 So anesthesiologists, those who would know the chemicals and how 0:22:34.700 --> 0:22:37.240 to achieve the end result and what's going wrong and 0:22:37.260 --> 0:22:40.540 then right and how to lessen suffering and whatnot, They're 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.619 not part of this. So this is done by prison staff, typically. 0:22:44.510 --> 0:22:47.650 Sometimes they can find a nurse inside the corrections department 0:22:47.690 --> 0:22:50.590 of states to do it. Typically, they won't be identified, 0:22:50.630 --> 0:22:53.810 and they'll cover them up so you can't see them 0:22:53.850 --> 0:22:56.250 because it goes against what they say that they're going 0:22:56.270 --> 0:22:59.109 to do as nurses as well. But except for a 0:22:59.190 --> 0:23:02.570 doctor giving the time of death, typically doctors don't play 0:23:02.609 --> 0:23:05.810 any role in this. You've got prison staff injecting these chemicals, 0:23:06.010 --> 0:23:09.040 and it seems in this case it was done very wrong. 0:23:09.490 --> 0:23:11.820 Why don't they go back to a firing squad? That works. 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.860 Well, I mean, some states have gone that way. It's what, 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.369 Utah or Nevada that have now brought that in. I 0:23:17.390 --> 0:23:20.730 believe Utah has made that as one option for inmates, 0:23:21.350 --> 0:23:25.010 as we've been covering cases there. It does work. Some 0:23:25.050 --> 0:23:29.430 states have gone that route. It's not one that Tennessee, 0:23:29.470 --> 0:23:33.409 at least their primary means of doing it, is chemical injection. 0:23:33.470 --> 0:23:35.620 But there have been years of the issues of getting 0:23:35.630 --> 0:23:37.600 the chemicals because the companies that make them don't want 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.000 them to be used for this. So some states haven't 0:23:40.020 --> 0:23:42.840 been able to get them and carry them out. But 0:23:43.460 --> 0:23:46.600 Tennessee has the chemicals. It just didn't go right last night. 0:23:47.950 --> 0:23:50.890 Yeah, I don't know why they keep trying this. Clearly, 0:23:51.109 --> 0:23:55.930 I mean, they've had lethal injection malfunctions in other states 0:23:56.010 --> 0:23:59.449 as well. And it leads to complicated court cases. And 0:23:59.530 --> 0:24:01.170 I just go back to the old days. 0:24:02.230 --> 0:24:05.359 Yeah, well, and now her attorneys are going to the 0:24:05.380 --> 0:24:09.840 state courts and saying enough is enough. Commute her death sentence. 0:24:10.020 --> 0:24:12.120 You tried to put her to death, and you made 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.120