Speaker 1: Biggest shot in the two finals. J All y'all was
Speaker 1: on teammates together. Probably the most creative basketball player with
Speaker 1: the ball, most skilled player I've ever seen. He's the
Speaker 1: greatest scorer I've ever seen underneath that basket, bro and
Speaker 1: and and it's crazy because everything he do is reaction.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like he's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna do that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: however you he's looking at the game, it's artist streak.
Speaker 1: You can't make it up the moves that he's doing
Speaker 1: because I don't think he knows what it is because
Speaker 1: he's literally just reacting and he's that talented to do
Speaker 1: what he do. Welcome back to What's Burning Jack, Our
Speaker 1: favorite time of the year here, man. The NBA Finals
Speaker 1: are upon us and we got a great matchup. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Celtics have continued their playoff run. Man, They've
Speaker 1: got an impressive run. If you think about a round one,
Speaker 1: they knocked out Katie and Kyrie. Round two, all the
Speaker 1: middle time was missing, they still knocked out Janis and
Speaker 1: the defending champs Eastern Conference Finals. They take down the
Speaker 1: number one seed in Jimmy Butler, only to arrive against
Speaker 1: Golden State. Man thoughts on their Eastern Conference run and
Speaker 1: just kind of looking forward to this NBA Finals matchup,
Speaker 1: and they knocked off everybody. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They took Katie and Kyrie down, They took you honest down,
Speaker 1: and they took Jimmy down. Mean they read it. This
Speaker 1: is the most complete team I've seen in a long
Speaker 1: time in the NBA as far as from top to bottom,
Speaker 1: great coaching, You've got two great stars and Tatum and Brown.
Speaker 1: You got defensive player they Ink and Marcus Smart, and
Speaker 1: you got a savvy Vett as the anchor of the team,
Speaker 1: Al Hartford. But just just this team and the great
Speaker 1: job email Udoker was doing, I think for as a whole.
Speaker 1: Even when you bring Williams Williams off the bench, this
Speaker 1: team just has everything they need to be a championship team.
Speaker 1: And the stars have been playing well and they play
Speaker 1: together with having stars. So I just think everything that
Speaker 1: they've been through from from round one to now has
Speaker 1: prepared them for these finals. Man. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta go to State winning, but these guys are they
Speaker 1: might prove me wrong. Yeah, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: great finals. I feel like, I think the way Boston
Speaker 1: plays defense and then their size is I mean from
Speaker 1: Grant Williams to Al Horford to Robert Williams. They got
Speaker 1: a big front line, and uh, you know sometimes that affects,
Speaker 1: you know, the Warriors ability because they're a small ball team.
Speaker 1: But you know, Tatum or Brown two way young superstars.
Speaker 1: Tatums emerged as a as a is emerging as a
Speaker 1: young superstar right in front of our eyes. He captured
Speaker 1: the first inaugural Larry Bird Eastern Conference m VP Finals
Speaker 1: a ten and six. One thing I really thought was
Speaker 1: dope that he wore that Kobe Bryant number twenty four
Speaker 1: wrist band and then also sent Covid text after, you know,
Speaker 1: Covid smiling down. What was your thoughts on that? I
Speaker 1: think that's dope, man. I think you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: some great motivation to have. That's somebody that you know,
Speaker 1: even guys like us that that was his age we
Speaker 1: all learned from. But you know that that's their Jordan's
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the impact he's had on
Speaker 1: the game and some of these and some of these
Speaker 1: young players, you know, you can't even you can't even
Speaker 1: imagine because he's had some of that is that same
Speaker 1: effect on some of us. So it's just good to
Speaker 1: see that he's trying to live through, live and keep
Speaker 1: Kobe's legs alive, but also use Kobe as motivation. If
Speaker 1: it's anybody that you're using his motivation, especially to get
Speaker 1: you to that next level of your basketball game, it
Speaker 1: should be code. Yeah. This is Boston's first Finals appearance
Speaker 1: since two thousand and ten when they actually played the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Before we move on Jack, let's talk about Miami real quick.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler played his ass off all throughout the playoffs,
Speaker 1: including the Eastern Finals. Thoughts on that team, and you
Speaker 1: know kind of the run they made. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and be said at all Miami and need is another star.
Speaker 1: I like Bam at the Bayo. He's solid, but he,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just not that star. Kyle Lowry's at
Speaker 1: the end of his career. I love him. He came
Speaker 1: and had some big makes, some big players and had
Speaker 1: a good game, uh game six in Boston to get
Speaker 1: that win, but he's just not the Kyle that we
Speaker 1: that we used to see in Toronto. So Jimmy just
Speaker 1: did everything. He did all he could. Obviously, we see
Speaker 1: Hero is not the player that we all expect him
Speaker 1: to be. You can't rely on Struce to go out
Speaker 1: there and shoot a million grenades and blow the backboard
Speaker 1: up and and and you just don't. You just don't
Speaker 1: have enough on this all the deepot is still not ready.
Speaker 1: So they need to try to make some moves and
Speaker 1: use some of those guys as Begi to bring another
Speaker 1: star in bro, because Jimmy is doing all he can.
Speaker 1: He played big, you know, and just you just can't
Speaker 1: expect him to do everything. You need more help. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Butler playoff. Jimmy Butler is is a different type of player. Man,
Speaker 1: top five player in the league when you come to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Man, this dude is ready to compete on
Speaker 1: both ends and do whatever it takes. You know this
Speaker 1: this year in the playoffs, he was scoring before it
Speaker 1: was defensive playmaking and hitting big shots. I mean, this
Speaker 1: dude does everything he could for his team. But they
Speaker 1: just felt short to me, they didn't have enough scoring.
Speaker 1: And I agree, you know what I mean. So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what they do uh this offseason.
Speaker 1: But hats off to the Miami heat in particular Jimmy Butler. Man,
Speaker 1: he played his ass off the Western Conference champs, the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors have been chilling resting up um. You know,
Speaker 1: they got some injuries. They had Otto Porter with a
Speaker 1: foot injury. You know, Steph had a little tweak, wasn't
Speaker 1: too serious of his ankle. Draymond fell on his wrists.
Speaker 1: So those guys have been resting up. Man, three time champs.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be their six finals appearance in eight seasons.
Speaker 1: But what makes that when I say that, in in
Speaker 1: how amazing is think about? What didn't Lebron have nine
Speaker 1: finals appearances in ten years or something like that? I mean,
Speaker 1: just to think about. I mean, obviously we're talking about
Speaker 1: going to state, but six and eight years is impressive
Speaker 1: this man. Lebron had nine in ten years. But man,
Speaker 1: the Golden State hats off to Wiggins, Looney and Jordan
Speaker 1: pool Man. They've been able to you know, kind of
Speaker 1: the unsung heroes of this team. You know who the
Speaker 1: star core three is. But those guys particularly have played
Speaker 1: really well that helped his team get to the place
Speaker 1: they're at. I mean the way they space, the way
Speaker 1: they moved the ball. They also play great defense. I
Speaker 1: just think this is gonna be a great matchup both
Speaker 1: ways because both these teams are explosive of offensively and
Speaker 1: they both play defense. Hopefully we'll get an update on
Speaker 1: Gary Payton uh the Second. Would love to see him
Speaker 1: make his return UM in the finals. But tell me
Speaker 1: what you like about this Golden State team Jack going
Speaker 1: into the finals. Well, I love the team. I love
Speaker 1: the way they play together. They finally got everybody back
Speaker 1: healthy and these days, these days they had the rest
Speaker 1: they definitely need. Um. Step has been big, Clay has
Speaker 1: been big. I think we need to see Clay game six,
Speaker 1: Clay from game one in this series because I'm anxious
Speaker 1: to see who is going to be the equalizer if
Speaker 1: a Tatum. Uh, Tatum is a problem bro six nine.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Can can handle the ball
Speaker 1: like a like a point guard, can shoot like a
Speaker 1: like a shooting guard. He just has all the all
Speaker 1: the talentsibles you need to lead a team to the championship.
Speaker 1: And I want to know who's gonna be the ask
Speaker 1: for him. I know what Step gonna do, but Step
Speaker 1: can't guard him. It's Clay gonna come back and be
Speaker 1: that guy that we know they could play both ways
Speaker 1: and help will this team in the championship. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can Jmond help guard one of these big guys and
Speaker 1: still be able to have rebound it gets Harford and Williams,
Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's a lot of it's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions that's uh that need to be answering, Matt.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, the war has been in
Speaker 1: before they got the experience. They know where to take
Speaker 1: and uh, we're just gonna see if they can get
Speaker 1: it done. I mean, you can definitely throw Wiggins in
Speaker 1: that mix. But yeah, I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: matchups both ways. Um. You know. But and for Golden
Speaker 1: State too, that's gonna be the first time they've really
Speaker 1: played in the playoffs. Two consistent scores, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got Tatum and Brown and Brown has been consistent,
Speaker 1: I think right around twenty points a game too. So
Speaker 1: you know, everyone they've been able to play thus far.
Speaker 1: You know, they had tried to cut the head off
Speaker 1: the snake. Um, but this team right here has a
Speaker 1: has a couple of different uh you know, guys that
Speaker 1: can put the ball in the basket. And then Marcus Smart,
Speaker 1: you know he's been scoring the ball extremely well as well,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be interesting. You know, the Celtics are big,
Speaker 1: they can score and they play defense. Golden State as small,
Speaker 1: but they space. Looney has been rebounded like a fucking animal.
Speaker 1: He knows he's got a little contract coming up this summer.
Speaker 1: You're trying to secure that bag. Shout out to my
Speaker 1: Brewing brother has been playing great. But man, I'm really
Speaker 1: looking forward to this finals. Like you said, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions to be answered, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a beautiful, uh final series, and I
Speaker 1: know everyone's really looking forward to it. Yeah, you know what, Matt,
Speaker 1: One more thing, the dynamic of Stephen Clay and Pool
Speaker 1: having a guard a lot of one on one I so,
Speaker 1: and the dynamic of Brown and Tatum they got to
Speaker 1: chase off screens. Now that's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 1: And I wonder how that's gonna work too, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you look at the Warriors, the Warriors are the
Speaker 1: one team you know when whenever teams call it red
Speaker 1: or black, you know that last five or six seconds
Speaker 1: when it's butter, They're the one team that doesn't that
Speaker 1: doesn't really break down into just straight one on one player.
Speaker 1: They do it sometimes, but they continue to move the ball, penetrate, kick,
Speaker 1: find that open shooter and get the great you know,
Speaker 1: get a great shot right at the end of the buzzer. Boston,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is a team when it you know,
Speaker 1: breaks down, they go to Tatum M. Brown to one
Speaker 1: on one ice. So so like you said, Tatum Brown,
Speaker 1: you gonna have to chase around these screens. Is definitely
Speaker 1: gonna wear them down. But it's gonna be in the
Speaker 1: sea because you know, those guys can definitely score the
Speaker 1: ball as well. So I can't wait, all right, Jack,
Speaker 1: before we move on to the m v P favorites,
Speaker 1: who do you got in how many games? I'm going
Speaker 1: to wars and six man? I just think, um, the
Speaker 1: experience and the dynamic of the fans in the Bay Area.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna put it off the six. The
Speaker 1: experience is going to be huge in this. This is
Speaker 1: you know, there first. This this is Boston's first rodeo.
Speaker 1: Al Horford, I think had the NBA record for not
Speaker 1: making a finals appearance in playing a certain amount of
Speaker 1: playoff games. This is uh, this is not new for
Speaker 1: Golden State. So I'm gonna take Golden State in seven.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great, great series. Next
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Speaker 1: a plus one ten, Jason Tatum at a plus one seventy.
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Speaker 1: by Clay tom to the plus fifteen hundred, and rounding
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Speaker 1: We'll see how that shakes out. I'm going Clay plus
Speaker 1: for m v P. Please get that brand. I want
Speaker 1: to see Steff. I would take Steph plus just plus
Speaker 1: one ten, just because I feel like this is the
Speaker 1: only thing missing on his resume. You know, the finals
Speaker 1: MVPs got a regular MVP has got rings. It's time
Speaker 1: for a finals MVP. Joining us in this conversation is
Speaker 1: my brother, yo, brother, the world's brother, one and only
Speaker 1: j R. Smith, Everybody's brother. And now we're saying that
Speaker 1: was good with you switch. My kids just got out
Speaker 1: of school. Are you still in school? Yeah? I just
Speaker 1: got out, man, just got a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: the finals. How'd it go? It was rough, Man, it
Speaker 1: was a rough start, but finished up strong and end
Speaker 1: up taking could be one of my class. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I can. I mean, you set the bar
Speaker 1: pretty much high with straight a's bro, So I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess. Okay, Bro, Yeah, I got four ays and
Speaker 1: b man, so relations dope, dope, you played in five
Speaker 1: different NBA finals. Bro, when this when this time you
Speaker 1: come around, do you start to you know, have members
Speaker 1: and go down memory lane? Um? Only when I watched it, bro. Honestly, man,
Speaker 1: I'm so out of touch for the game right now.
Speaker 1: So I think I almost forgot what time of the
Speaker 1: year it was, because like, I'll be on the golf
Speaker 1: course all day long, man, I'll be I'll be in
Speaker 1: Like I live a totally different life than I did
Speaker 1: when I was playing and stuff, so I got a
Speaker 1: totally different perspective on it. So when I look at
Speaker 1: the game now when I do school and I do
Speaker 1: catch up on it and I see it's the finals,
Speaker 1: just like damn, I's saying highlights it It's crazy because
Speaker 1: it's seen so long ago right when it's not right.
Speaker 1: I should I'll be be five years removed this June.
Speaker 1: That ship went by fastest. Fun. Yeah, because every time
Speaker 1: of people all the time, and when you we're not
Speaker 1: in it all the time, like you used to revolve
Speaker 1: around your world. No more figure out outside of what
Speaker 1: you've always done. Already got kids. Man, before we get
Speaker 1: into the two thousand tens, you were one of the
Speaker 1: first volume three point shooters when you came to live,
Speaker 1: used to let that motherfucker fly? Uh, what do you
Speaker 1: think about now that you see just so many threes
Speaker 1: and how effective you would have been in this game?
Speaker 1: Because this is really your running gun, is really your game.
Speaker 1: So when when when I say that to you, what
Speaker 1: do you think about? And? Um, you know what, it's
Speaker 1: crazy because oh four, you know it wasn't cool to
Speaker 1: shoot a right to the three. Maybe you had to
Speaker 1: get it when you fitted throwing the Devil of the love,
Speaker 1: but now you you know two dudes. For me, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's hard because I see, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to seem like a hater, but like when
Speaker 1: I know I know my talent and I know the
Speaker 1: talent that I have, and I when I when I
Speaker 1: see the game changed like that as an eighteen year
Speaker 1: old kid. For me being in that situation, like, man,
Speaker 1: I could have made five hundred million, I could have
Speaker 1: made it bigger, like like for real, real, because like
Speaker 1: it's changing the way of the game, and not only that,
Speaker 1: it is changing the eye of what you know, um,
Speaker 1: being being able to wear your clothes and express yourself
Speaker 1: on the court and the mental health part, like so
Speaker 1: it's all catered around supporting that type of style. So
Speaker 1: for me, it would have been out of thrived in
Speaker 1: what were some of your toughest matchups on the wing
Speaker 1: when you're playing Kitty Cold got code one night, we
Speaker 1: got a team Mac one night, Ray Allen, Uh, it's
Speaker 1: just a west Uh. It was just all you got
Speaker 1: all the night you got you got a cat? What right?
Speaker 1: All right? Would you mean you Yeah, you don't know.
Speaker 1: I can tell you never really played the game like that. Um,
Speaker 1: then you got you gotta go out East, you go
Speaker 1: AI franchise? Uh catch BD the way I mean Reggie
Speaker 1: I called I called Reggie my rookie year on Reggie
Speaker 1: Way out It get meen Cool thirty seven seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was eighteen chasing me. It wasn't working out David said,
Speaker 1: you were a couple of elbows. Um bird bro, but ship, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it was crazy. I played. I think it
Speaker 1: was Damon Stottlmy had sixty and Nick Vinnixto had thirty
Speaker 1: seven who eighteen games my rookie year. It was something
Speaker 1: like that, or or then had fifty and Dame had
Speaker 1: something like that. It was that was crazy. I ain't
Speaker 1: never seen no schooling like that. M hm. Dan Dick
Speaker 1: out there trying to chase Damon Stout. He said that
Speaker 1: the man was my guy dog up nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: He was. He was schooling me. What was your thoughts
Speaker 1: on on the top seventy five list? Wish to me,
Speaker 1: it was pretty it was pretty accurate. I mean, other
Speaker 1: than like having Dwight on there, I think Dwight should
Speaker 1: have been up there. Um. I mean if we at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like you know, granted, even
Speaker 1: if you don't win the championship, and he didn't win
Speaker 1: a championship with us with the Lakers, um, like what
Speaker 1: he did, what he did for the game as a
Speaker 1: big gag number of stats where he approached the game.
Speaker 1: Like people to say what they want about the white
Speaker 1: or you know, crazy whatever you want to think or
Speaker 1: whatever the persona is about him on the court with
Speaker 1: the returns of refs or coaches. But when I tell
Speaker 1: approach to the game, Bro, he's in the gym every day.
Speaker 1: He eats right, He worked on his game, Like I
Speaker 1: don't care about what nobody said. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: people out there who try to pretend act like they
Speaker 1: work on their game and they be practicing moves. He
Speaker 1: at least he's actually working on that ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying now. He puts in the effort, bro,
Speaker 1: And like his body shows that, his body of work
Speaker 1: shows it. Like he just dominant all those times? Was
Speaker 1: it when they was a code and those USA teams
Speaker 1: he was the center, brom Like, he was enforces. It
Speaker 1: was like, well, let's not forget about the way Howard
Speaker 1: bro Like that was that was crazy? A chance to
Speaker 1: play with prime to White in Orlando. He was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and one of the strongest human beings I've ever been
Speaker 1: a motherfucker so strong, bro Man, straight up, I can't
Speaker 1: respect them this without know Kyrie Carter. I think it
Speaker 1: was Clay. It was Saint Clay missed you up and
Speaker 1: didn't get Clay Mac. I mean there's a couple of
Speaker 1: people that I mean, but it's always gonna be like that.
Speaker 1: Whenever you make a list like that, it's always gonna
Speaker 1: be like, it's like that, and let's the players do
Speaker 1: it those swishes and even then the players do it.
Speaker 1: Come on, brother, there's always gonna be so he liked
Speaker 1: me when I was playing snub mean, it's always gonna
Speaker 1: be like, well, today we're gonna go through a list
Speaker 1: of ten players and we're gonna talk about each of them.
Speaker 1: So let's get to it. Seven time All Star, three
Speaker 1: times All NBA two thousand eleven, two thousand two, A
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year two thousand fourteen All Star, m
Speaker 1: v P two thousand two, six NBA Champ three year
Speaker 1: P twenty one points for game, seven assists per game,
Speaker 1: three rebounds per game, biggest shot in the two six finals.
Speaker 1: J All y'all was on teammates together. Probably the most
Speaker 1: creative basketball player with the ball, most skilled playof I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, Kyrie Irvin. To me, Kyle is the greatest
Speaker 1: scorer ever under the sixth three six two, whatever whatever
Speaker 1: height he is, he's the greatest scorer I've ever seen
Speaker 1: underneath that basket bro like, left hand finishes, right hand
Speaker 1: finishes the range jump shot, Hello Spider off the drivers
Speaker 1: pull up three left? Uh con duncan shoot ninety something
Speaker 1: for something from the free throne line, I mean can
Speaker 1: pass handled the probably the best handles we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I mean and and and it's crazy because I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he has like little drills that he does, but everything
Speaker 1: he do is reaction. There's nothing like he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, and then I'm gonna do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do that. No, no, no, However you
Speaker 1: he's looking at the game, this artistry is exactly what
Speaker 1: it is because you can't make it up, the moves
Speaker 1: that he's doing, because I don't think he knows what
Speaker 1: it is because he's literally just reacting and he's that
Speaker 1: talented to do what do he do? St Yeah, he
Speaker 1: put a move on stuff and go to state that yeah,
Speaker 1: and pulled up on him and Katie. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: what was that? I had to watch it like any times?
Speaker 1: What was that? Well? Bro, people don't realize how tough
Speaker 1: a shot it is that from three ft from three
Speaker 1: ft away, the actual jump shot over a guy coming
Speaker 1: towards you. A big man. He makes that shot all
Speaker 1: the time, glass nothing but that ring around like all
Speaker 1: the time, left hand and right hand. That's a tough shot.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Another one of your teammates. Three year peak,
Speaker 1: twenty two points, fourteen rebounds, four hundred and seven double
Speaker 1: doubles in the two thousand tens, third most obviously sacrifice
Speaker 1: when he joined you guys in Cleveland. Five time All Star,
Speaker 1: UH two thousand ten, rebound champ, champion two thousand sixteen,
Speaker 1: two times All NBA. Talked to us a little bit
Speaker 1: about Kevin Love It loves such a great dude. Man,
Speaker 1: I can't I'm honestly waiting on this man's wedding coming
Speaker 1: up the team. I ain't gonna put the day, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna put his date out there, but I can't wait. Man.
Speaker 1: K Level is my guy. He's one of the greatest
Speaker 1: teammates I've had, bro Like um, you know, speaking on
Speaker 1: his being able to speak up for his mental health
Speaker 1: and UH going through the moments we've had with each
Speaker 1: other in Cleveland. As a player, he's a hell of
Speaker 1: a competitor. Um. Definitely one of my team in the
Speaker 1: Fox on Me all day long. Because just because I
Speaker 1: know he's gone, you know he's gonna scrap for sure,
Speaker 1: and you know, people don't really don't really know Care
Speaker 1: really didn't play that well offensively, like how he was
Speaker 1: quote unquote to post on the game seven. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that he was just getting every single rebound,
Speaker 1: all the stops and all the big parts, and he
Speaker 1: really put his pride a side of you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm a thirty and twenty guy from what he
Speaker 1: came from and in Minnesota really accepted, you know, letting
Speaker 1: Kyrie and Uh really handled all the little the load.
Speaker 1: He pretty much you know, I'm gonna do the dirty
Speaker 1: work and stretched the floward when they need me and
Speaker 1: Uh once we started. But the crazy part is once
Speaker 1: we really started flourishing, we started playing through kill. You know,
Speaker 1: as much as people want to talk about how Brian
Speaker 1: and Kai was, you know, the dominant force. I remember Tyk,
Speaker 1: I think keV had thirty in the first quarter against
Speaker 1: Portland at the crib like it was like and it
Speaker 1: was a stretch of games where he was just going
Speaker 1: nuts and like to start the game out because everybody
Speaker 1: you know, obviously focus on and Bron and and uh,
Speaker 1: I wanted to run me off the three. But people
Speaker 1: always forgot how good kid was, whether spot ups and
Speaker 1: back in and down, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: he can get to the get to the free throw line,
Speaker 1: so really strongest, heal and loves to pass the ball,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, loves the outlet the ball,
Speaker 1: loves to drop the back door dins like he just
Speaker 1: wanted to feel involved in the game. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so and it's it was a hell of a dude
Speaker 1: though even better player. I think people forget the dominance
Speaker 1: he had in Minnesota because they didn't really win, but
Speaker 1: the numbers he was putting up in Minnesota were of fame. Ridiculous,
Speaker 1: bro and I you know, it's funny about Kevin KEEVI
Speaker 1: is still the only person there from that championship change
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, you know what I'm saying. He was going
Speaker 1: for going from a team where we were where we
Speaker 1: were at to where they was at then, you know,
Speaker 1: and then come back to being a player like them
Speaker 1: they play off caliber team now. It's uh, I respect
Speaker 1: him a lot for that because that's that's a hard
Speaker 1: thing to do. You know what I'm saying it was
Speaker 1: a real Obviously he's getting well paid for it too,
Speaker 1: but it's it's not easy, man, because that's something you
Speaker 1: love to do, that's your passion. For me as a competitor,
Speaker 1: I ain't, man, I can't take too much losing, Bro
Speaker 1: before I say something. I remember when I was in
Speaker 1: uh My Clipper Stint, I got a chance to see
Speaker 1: k Love go against Blake and the Killer and he
Speaker 1: finished the game like thirty thirty eight and twenty five
Speaker 1: some ship like that, and I'm like, like, were like
Speaker 1: twelve times. I'm like, god, damn, Bro, I did not
Speaker 1: know kay Love was like that. I didn't. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because people people get so caught
Speaker 1: up and you don't want to see somebody play above
Speaker 1: the rim and think that's the only way the game
Speaker 1: is supposed to be played. And when you see somebody
Speaker 1: just fundamentally like got it, like yeah boy from AI
Speaker 1: game brouh, he reminds me so much of k Love,
Speaker 1: like Jackson, sound bro, he got it? Yep. Next up,
Speaker 1: we got four time All Star, three times NBA Champ,
Speaker 1: seven times All Defensive twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, The Champ
Speaker 1: two times All NBA sixteen seventeen defensive played the year
Speaker 1: he had a three year peak eleven points per game,
Speaker 1: eight rebounds for games seven and sists per game. You
Speaker 1: played against him in the finals, Um, Draymond Green. Before
Speaker 1: we get to Draymond, I know you ain't playing no
Speaker 1: defense that because you don't know STM mean, bro, you
Speaker 1: did that. You ain't because I was in that mother
Speaker 1: for the stats. But I know that. Well alright, Well
Speaker 1: one thing, one thing about it, swish I go to
Speaker 1: state team that yeah, we would let the league is
Speaker 1: still so I know I had to be at the
Speaker 1: top of the team. But I definitely that I definitely
Speaker 1: definitely didn't know what that mean. Yeah, yeah, you're stupid, Uh, Draymond.
Speaker 1: Draymond Green, great dude, like a hundred percent great dude. Uh.
Speaker 1: Fun take compete against um just because you know he
Speaker 1: talked and antics and all of that. That part of it. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's from very blessed to be playing with really good Uh,
Speaker 1: no question, no question. Oh, I will say that. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I think because his numbers don't jump off
Speaker 1: the page that people kind of have a problem with
Speaker 1: his game or his accolades or what he receives. But
Speaker 1: to me, he's just a winning motherfucker and he got
Speaker 1: in a great situation. There's no no, you know, no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But if you think about it, because
Speaker 1: you played against him, we played against him, I played
Speaker 1: with him. He's the one that makes that machine go.
Speaker 1: I mean I can, I can. I can respect that.
Speaker 1: Like you compete, Bro, Like you, if you compete, no
Speaker 1: matter no matter how talented you are, no matter how
Speaker 1: you know, whether great or how or load talent level
Speaker 1: you are at, if you don't compete, you are, you don't.
Speaker 1: It don't even matter. Like I ain't gonna lie delive
Speaker 1: Dovo on my team and Cleveland, he competed anybody I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. Bro. He was literally about
Speaker 1: to die in the play. Like literally, Bro, were in
Speaker 1: the back after the game, like Steph almost killed this man.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm never going not tell you she don't compete,
Speaker 1: because he definitely do. But I just imagine how good
Speaker 1: that would be if he just worked on his shot.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I have a problem with, Like
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with people just disrespecting me. Yeah, y'all still
Speaker 1: win it. I'll still get championships without it. Bro, But me,
Speaker 1: if he just worked on his jump shot and shot
Speaker 1: at a company does about the say, I'm not convinced
Speaker 1: he don't. Jack. I'm convinced he don't. I'm convinced he
Speaker 1: don't know he does. I think because I had supply
Speaker 1: I saw how hard this dude work day after day
Speaker 1: after day. I think you do. You know what about
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you because I feel,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, it's mental at this point
Speaker 1: when when you hear when you continuously here, whether it
Speaker 1: be on Twitter or social for media or watch TV
Speaker 1: or you know, can people continuously talking about your shot
Speaker 1: and you can't shoot? That's mental? Bro. You already every
Speaker 1: time you catch that ball, you're already thinking about you're
Speaker 1: not gonna make the shot or what everybody else gonna say?
Speaker 1: You already got a second guess a shooter. You ain't
Speaker 1: man let me looking over here. You can't get over
Speaker 1: here faster though, And I think too, you all know,
Speaker 1: I mean because we all shot the ball the three.
Speaker 1: The hardest shot, The hardest shot to make is the
Speaker 1: wide open one when no one's guarding you. That ship
Speaker 1: is hard to make. Like I'd rather have someone close
Speaker 1: or hand up, but that wide open shot when they're
Speaker 1: sitting in the paint, like I couldn't have been, Like,
Speaker 1: that's gotta be a tough ass shot to make. And
Speaker 1: they leave, they leaveing. You know it's crazy, and we're
Speaker 1: talking with one of his benefits. We did the same thing, well,
Speaker 1: Andre Goodollard, he burnt the eyes up for the first ship.
Speaker 1: That's why I got finals in the VP. We left
Speaker 1: him and he kept knocking that ship down every single time.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie live. I would live with that, bro.
Speaker 1: I was to locking like, BROI that's what that's what
Speaker 1: we did. When we live with it, Like damn, sna
Speaker 1: beat this with that and ship and he got final conversation.
Speaker 1: We gotta take our hat of because that was the
Speaker 1: game and show beat this with that. He had three threes.
Speaker 1: Then go to the pre throw line and shoot the ball.
Speaker 1: But look at it. Look at it though, Think about this, though,
Speaker 1: think about this. That's the game plan, right, they beat us,
Speaker 1: no Kyrie, no calv that next year we come back
Speaker 1: and win. Then they go get k D and they
Speaker 1: went to and what you what you mean? That's what
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen but we call it square. What's
Speaker 1: happening right? This is a different book. That team was
Speaker 1: a cheat coach man. Next up another one. Five time
Speaker 1: All Star, two times a m b A All Defensive
Speaker 1: Team two thousand nineteen, three times in a Champ All
Speaker 1: Rookie team in two thousand eleven three or peak twenty
Speaker 1: two point shooting from the three point line. The other
Speaker 1: splash brother Clay Thompson problem problem, boy's a problem. Ratchet, ratchet,
Speaker 1: get it over there. You can't get it over there
Speaker 1: fast enough. Anything I like about him though he compete,
Speaker 1: though he not he compete. He ain't talking ship. He
Speaker 1: wanted the quiet people on the court unless he talking
Speaker 1: to his team, and he get hyped, you know in
Speaker 1: the big moments obviously like most people. But he not
Speaker 1: allowed with there just chirping to be chirping and trying
Speaker 1: to be chippy and all of that. He played again
Speaker 1: the right way, and I really like Clay for that.
Speaker 1: He'd be saying so wild ship off the court though
Speaker 1: about people, but I don't really funk with but he
Speaker 1: can hoop. Uh yeah. I think what I liked about
Speaker 1: Clay too was obviously he played defense. You know, he
Speaker 1: was the guy before he's starting to get back that
Speaker 1: he was the one who always took the toughest matches
Speaker 1: for that team on the wing. And then also he
Speaker 1: didn't have a shot pocket, and which is crazy because
Speaker 1: everyone says great shotes to get to your shot pocket.
Speaker 1: Clay he catch that bitch anywhere and let it right
Speaker 1: where he caught it at, like side his head off
Speaker 1: to the side, let it go. Me and the twins
Speaker 1: do a drill. It's called it. It's the Clay drier.
Speaker 1: Like wherever you wherever I thought the ball, you gotta
Speaker 1: shoot it from right like That's how Clay would catch
Speaker 1: that bit and just let it go from any perspective.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing too, when I got a
Speaker 1: chance to play with that team. Not to cut you off, Jr.
Speaker 1: Steph is the greatest shooter of all time, but if
Speaker 1: we go shot for shot, it's hard to tell who
Speaker 1: is the actual just best spot up three point shooter
Speaker 1: between those two because they're both Like I would watch,
Speaker 1: you know, after after practice workouts, where Clay would missed
Speaker 1: two shots out of maybe like two hundred shots, it
Speaker 1: would be just unbelievable. How many is just straight consecutive
Speaker 1: fucking shots he would may do so great. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's got a gun man in the family. In the family.
Speaker 1: Next up one of my former teammates. Six time All
Speaker 1: Star All Rookie Team in eleven, five time All NBA
Speaker 1: Rookie the Year and eleven as well, three year peak
Speaker 1: twenty two, nine and five. To me, one of the
Speaker 1: most versatile four mans that we've seen. Injuries obviously slowed
Speaker 1: him down. But Blake Griffin, Big Blake, Blake is funny man.
Speaker 1: Blake is Blake. Blake is a character, Bro. He's He's
Speaker 1: a funny dude, is a good dude. Man. His game
Speaker 1: was unfortunately, you know, injuries and stuff like that, but
Speaker 1: Blake has so much game explosions. Bro. When he first
Speaker 1: came out, I was thinking, like, I said, we've seen Stat,
Speaker 1: and Stat was like, yo, hey, yeah, then we've seen Blake.
Speaker 1: The ship Blake was doing. I thought that. I thought,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was, oh my god. He was jumped
Speaker 1: over Mysgarf. People. I played with Mysgarf. I know how
Speaker 1: big mysgar is. Bro. He seven of Russian like big
Speaker 1: like he jumped over that man, Bro. And then and
Speaker 1: then DJ was next to him too too. Lovethress. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing when you mentioned the White Howard, I
Speaker 1: put Blake right behind Kobe as far as the hardest
Speaker 1: working people I've ever seen. When they say first man in,
Speaker 1: last man out, that's no exaggeration. Where this dude works
Speaker 1: so hard on his jumper, the way he hit, the
Speaker 1: way he was able to. I mean he would, bro
Speaker 1: When I tell you he was in there an hour
Speaker 1: or for practice before anyone, he'd be drenched by the time.
Speaker 1: We're just kind of like we would still come out
Speaker 1: early and get our shots up. He had gone through
Speaker 1: a whole full ball handling, jump shot workout and just
Speaker 1: you could really see his game. And I think under
Speaker 1: under estimated thing about his game was his ball handing
Speaker 1: and his passing ability, because that motherfucker could passed the
Speaker 1: ball too. But Blake and his prime with them Lob
Speaker 1: City teams, Man, I've seen him do some unbelievable ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, I worked out with him a few times
Speaker 1: when I'm man and hut there in U C. L A,
Speaker 1: and um, he was he was a problem bro. YEA.
Speaker 1: He definitely had the like workout in the workout, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know he went the hard though. That's stuff. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: you definitely put the time in. Next up. Paul George
Speaker 1: three year p twenty five points for game seven, reboundable game,
Speaker 1: for assist for game, fitting career points in counting. Seven
Speaker 1: time Mall Star, six time All NBA Now two thousand, nineteen,
Speaker 1: Stills Champion two thousand and leven Rookie Team two twelve thirteen,
Speaker 1: Most Improved, four time All Defensive. PG is a problem man.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on PG? Man? PG got game Bro
Speaker 1: PG super game Like. He's so smoothed though I felt
Speaker 1: like he was like, uh, he had like a modern
Speaker 1: day bro. He would be like a modern day like
Speaker 1: Eddie Jones Bro Like. He was so both bro like
Speaker 1: he get packed that thing. He can get off to
Speaker 1: any left right like creative with it. He's a problem
Speaker 1: Indiana Bro. He knocked us out and with the next
Speaker 1: that was come to the league. That was that the
Speaker 1: year they beat Miami or now they battle right after that.
Speaker 1: You know, PG is tough and any any place both
Speaker 1: in That's what I respect too. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he's quiet and and and just it looks effortless. You know,
Speaker 1: the way he handles the ball offensively, shoots the ball,
Speaker 1: gets into his moves as he was a motherfucker man.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He definitely was competing. Bro. He like
Speaker 1: arms to like, yeah I heard he had that work
Speaker 1: ethic to talking to um no, not be Scott but
Speaker 1: Sean that working Yeah, no, you get the great talent man.
Speaker 1: Next up. The game plan was don't let this man
Speaker 1: go left, and every time he would get left. His
Speaker 1: three year peak was seventeen four and four from the
Speaker 1: three point line, Hall of Famer, two time All Star,
Speaker 1: two time All n B A six Man of the
Speaker 1: Year in two thousand and eight, four time in a
Speaker 1: Champ All Rookie team in two thousand three Man New
Speaker 1: Genobli man, and there was another compete. Like hell, bro,
Speaker 1: he was crafty though, like one thing about he was
Speaker 1: real crafty, bro Like he would do anything. He act
Speaker 1: like he hurt to go get the buck. Bro. I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, bro, like you like that, like you
Speaker 1: you can't put nothing past them. I mean ship a
Speaker 1: European bro. I mean everybody was calling that the Man.
Speaker 1: Now they started calling it the James. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Remember he would come down on that right side of
Speaker 1: the floor with that high screening roll and you try
Speaker 1: to ice it or blew it. Whatever fun your team
Speaker 1: called it. Not let him get off that screen. But
Speaker 1: once he got off that screen early in his career,
Speaker 1: he was coming down the lane and dunking that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You got you got any good man new stories. Jack
Speaker 1: one of my favorite teammates. I mean, he one of
Speaker 1: the first people. He definitely brought the euro step, the
Speaker 1: euro step to the league. But he used to sham
Speaker 1: go out people going full speed. Yep, he was one
Speaker 1: of the first people. Yeah, sham guard, you didn't go banging.
Speaker 1: And I see him do that in the playoffs. So
Speaker 1: but as far as competing and playing hard like I
Speaker 1: always got to tell this story, bro, why are you
Speaker 1: one of my favorite teammates? You know how we how
Speaker 1: we look out for each other and like guys like us,
Speaker 1: we never got the accolades we deserved because the good
Speaker 1: guy or the big name teammate, but really we was
Speaker 1: the hardest soul of the team. And when I hit
Speaker 1: all those shots and let the team score on the
Speaker 1: West Conference finals, and he made it a point to
Speaker 1: tell me I deserved the m v P. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying when they was giving to other people.
Speaker 1: But but you know, he was just one of those
Speaker 1: solid dudes man, that you want on your team. That
Speaker 1: regards where he was from. He when he was somebody
Speaker 1: you wanted on your team. So if they had the
Speaker 1: magic Johnson Western Conference m v p uh Finals MVP,
Speaker 1: you would have snacked that bit. Hey, yeah, you know what, Matt.
Speaker 1: The great thing about it, all they gotta do is
Speaker 1: google it. Game six, Western Comference Finals five was full
Speaker 1: of that dope on one straight up. Next up, we
Speaker 1: got three year people's nineteen points for game eleven, rebounds
Speaker 1: for game eighteen and a half, thousand career points, two
Speaker 1: thousand All Stars, two thousand and eleven All NBA. You
Speaker 1: probably had the best touch around the basket next to
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan. That wasn't athletic um. Somebody that we all
Speaker 1: wanted to play with. Re respect Ze Bowl, Zach Randall Bow, Hey,
Speaker 1: o G, that's the game. Did you play together in
Speaker 1: New York? No, Man, I wish I got an opportunity.
Speaker 1: It was z bro Man. He just kept crossing paths
Speaker 1: all the time when I would play with whenever our
Speaker 1: teams will play against each other, there was always somebody
Speaker 1: on my team that I rocked with always, and it
Speaker 1: was he's a good dude to be around. Man. Back
Speaker 1: when she was she young, Wo was with him, I
Speaker 1: was with him. She was there, So it's a Memphis.
Speaker 1: He came right with us times. Yeah, Bro, he's twenty
Speaker 1: and ten, and I think he doesn't get the recondition
Speaker 1: again because he wasn't that He wasn't a high flyer,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean at ten dunks his whole career.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker will give you that jab face up, work
Speaker 1: back you down, get twenty rebounds and barely jump over
Speaker 1: a penny like Zebo strength basketball i Q. You know
Speaker 1: I got. We got a chance to play with each
Speaker 1: other towards the end of both of our careers. But
Speaker 1: he was still that was a Memphis together. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: he was still putting the working like you said, man,
Speaker 1: even a great player, but even a better person. Man
Speaker 1: retired back and he did a lot for the city. Man,
Speaker 1: he did he like he really did keep that city
Speaker 1: together for a while. Man, while everything while he was there,
Speaker 1: he really embraced it. Man, from whether it be a
Speaker 1: rappers community, like he really has an imprint and people like,
Speaker 1: you know, people respect him out there like person he
Speaker 1: put money bag on. He was the one that was putting.
Speaker 1: He found money Bag. I remember used to we talked
Speaker 1: about on the show, but he used to bring his
Speaker 1: mixtape in the locker room all time and just bang
Speaker 1: this ship and we're like, yo, it was dope, but
Speaker 1: we're just like these always play who is this dude
Speaker 1: next thing? You know this dude on top? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's Zebo's dude. So that's what's up. Well, due
Speaker 1: to kind constraints, we didn't have a chance to finish
Speaker 1: the rest of the twenty tens, but here are the
Speaker 1: rest of our picks for the tens next. Alright, j
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time, Bro. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: A brother. Appreciate closing thoughts, Jack, I was in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas fucking with thirteen year olds. They were driving me crazy.
Speaker 1: You were actually in Brooklyn at the Javante Davis Roly fight.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about it, bro. Onbelievable atmosphere from the
Speaker 1: way in to the actual fight night, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I don't see nobody putting on better fights and showtime boxing, bro.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the stars came out. Baclays was packed
Speaker 1: wall to wall, from Madonna to Tracy with Grady, all
Speaker 1: the rappers, everybody was in the building, Bro, Tracy, Margat,
Speaker 1: name them. To see them finally, you know, face to
Speaker 1: face the last way in and see Tank push him
Speaker 1: off the stage. And to be able to talk to
Speaker 1: both of these guys. They knew how to sell a fight, Bro,
Speaker 1: they sold the fight. And uh from the actual fight night, Um,
Speaker 1: you know I was I was able to commentate to
Speaker 1: all the pre fights that night. I was able to
Speaker 1: do that was a great experience. And um, just to
Speaker 1: see Tank man, see how focused he was the whole time.
Speaker 1: Roller was trying to get on this skin and he
Speaker 1: knew what he was going to do in the ring. Dog.
Speaker 1: And when I say, out of all the fights I've
Speaker 1: been to, I've never seen or heard a punch that
Speaker 1: loud and the souled out arena. Everybody in the arena
Speaker 1: heard that punch. That's how loud it was. Bro. And
Speaker 1: he just showed while Papa he wanted the best in
Speaker 1: the business. M It looked like Rolls is bigger than him,
Speaker 1: wasn't he roll was big? Get at him and ro Roly.
Speaker 1: You know he had some skill as far as power,
Speaker 1: and he was strong. Even Tanks said Tanks said, I
Speaker 1: felt one of his punches, and I really in the
Speaker 1: first two three rounds and I realized I couldn't sit
Speaker 1: down with him yet because he was too strong. I
Speaker 1: had to wear him down and move around. So Roly
Speaker 1: had power and Roley was confident. He just don't have
Speaker 1: no boxing skill and that's what Tank set himself set him.
Speaker 1: Apart from m that was a great match up. We Uh,
Speaker 1: we were able to watch the fight at the crib
Speaker 1: out there in Vegas, so we had a good time.
Speaker 1: Man closing thoughts, Darvin ham happy for this brother man.
Speaker 1: I had him with the Lakers as an assistant. Has
Speaker 1: just signed a four year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1: You know, former player getting his chance. Uh. Jack thoughts
Speaker 1: on hiring d Ham and and and what he brings
Speaker 1: to this l a Laker culture. Well, I mean it's
Speaker 1: just we call the spade is paid. Former players is
Speaker 1: coming in the league. They're really taking over doing great
Speaker 1: coaching job. Looking at him, and you DOOKI his first
Speaker 1: year he's in NBA finals. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: One thing you can't teach. You can't teach experience. You
Speaker 1: can sit behind the computer, you can crush the numbers.
Speaker 1: You can do all that, but having experienced is nothing
Speaker 1: you can teach. And Donna and Darn have has that,
Speaker 1: dam has that. I've been knowing dem for a long time.
Speaker 1: We came up together a little bit in the league,
Speaker 1: and Uh, he's just always been a solid guy. UM,
Speaker 1: just like email Udoka coached under UM UH coach Pop
Speaker 1: over in San Antonio. Well, de Ham is coached under
Speaker 1: under but over there man and UM Milwaukee, so he
Speaker 1: got that same to them. Is So I'm happy for him. Bro.
Speaker 1: He deserves the shot and I think he's gonna do great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pay his dudes. UM. Obviously, this is a this is
Speaker 1: a this is a it's a hot seat. It's a
Speaker 1: tricky situation over here with the Lakers. Obviously you think
Speaker 1: you know who wouldn't want to be the Laker coach.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot that comes with this ship. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, Vogel saw what happened in the championship and
Speaker 1: out two years after that. UH roster is poorly constructed,
Speaker 1: So interesting to see what they can do with this roster,
Speaker 1: if anything. But I think the one thing that stands
Speaker 1: out knowing d Ham is he's gonna have accountability. In
Speaker 1: that locker you know what I mean, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to say what needs to be said to whoever
Speaker 1: it needs to be said to, and it will be respected.
Speaker 1: And you definitely can't say that about the last locker
Speaker 1: room that the Lakers have. So that's the one thing
Speaker 1: I know for sure. I don't know a lot of
Speaker 1: the other moving parts of what the fun is going on,
Speaker 1: but I know his voice will be respected and they'll
Speaker 1: I have accountability, and I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: first thing this team needs because there was a lot
Speaker 1: of weird ship going on from the outside looking in.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see where our brother Nothing
Speaker 1: but the best of luck, man. You can catch What's
Speaker 1: burning available every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube and on Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: and TikTok at Show Basketball. People's see y'all next week.
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