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It is the Herd. 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Thank you for making us part of your day. A 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: lot of platforms out there, and a lot of choices 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: as well. The great thing Jmac and you used to 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: live out there, and so did I. When the Yankees 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: and the Red Sox meet, especially in the postseason, it 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: is second guest manager Tom And I'll say this about 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the Yankee as an organization, They've been very patient. Cashman's 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: been there forever, Aaron boone in year eight, and everybody 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: wants changes, but the Yankees, outside of one year a 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, have been really perennially good. We're 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: waiting for great. This team's not gonna be great because 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: there are certain elements that they're just not very good at, 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: like their bullpen, and that was on display last night. 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: So here we go. Let's talk Yankees Red Sox Game one. 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: It's second guest the manager time, and Aaron Boone is 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: a pinata to the pinstrifer fans. So he didn't start 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: Jazz Chisholm or Ben Rice. Oh well, it's a lefty, 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: righty thing, but that's gonna get second guests if you lose. 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: And he also pulled the pitcher Max Freed. It was 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: pretty good last night. And in the seventh inning, and 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna freak out. You know, Ahmed Rosario starts over Chishlm. 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Why because he hits the Red Sox ace better Garrett Crochet. 34 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: That's why he started him. So they pull at about 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: one hundred pitches, they pull Max Freed. Everybody's kind of 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: freaking out. But let's be honest. He was at his 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: pack pitch limit. He'd labored in previous innings. He didn't 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: have great command at Aaron Booe knows more about that 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: than you or I do. So they go to Luke Weaver. Well, 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: Luke Weaver has been up and down all year out 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: of the bullpen. That's the reality. And the Red Sox 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: have played great baseball at Yankee Stadium this year. They've 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: won six of eight, they won the season series. So 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Luke Weave faltered. And this, this whole night, came down 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: to a couple high leverage situations. One of them was 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Luke Weaver. He didn't get the job done, and that's 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: the reality. The other was just historically weird. No teams 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: ever loaded the bases bottom of the ninth and not 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: scored a run at least one. But a Raldis Chapman, Yeah, 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: he throws one hundred miles an hour, strikes out John 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Carlos Stanton, You're three hundred twenty five million dollar hitter 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: in a high leverage spot. The Red Sox were better 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: in a clutch spot in the seven, and they got 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: a historically rare success with the Chapman in the ninth. 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: And that's the game, and that every baseball fan, especially 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: in New York, thinks they're a combination of about Earl Weaver, 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Billy Martin, Connie mack In, Casey Stingle. Baseball playoffs, especially 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: in the series, come down to moments, and one of 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: those moments is in the seventh inning, and you can say, wow, 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Max Freed was really rolling. He had a twenty four 61 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: pitch inning, he had a twenty pitch inning, and again, 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the Red Sox are a really good team. So my 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: take is Aaron Boone travels with a team, he knows 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: his team, and his take was he didn't have great 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: command a lot of pitches in these innings. I want 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: to get out of here. But this whole game came 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: down to a seventh bullpen miss and a bottom of 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the ninth Chapman overpowered Yankee hitters, and that's playoff baseball. 69 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Here's Aaron Boone on his decision to pull Max Freed. 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: I felt like his command was, you know, not as 71 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: good those final few He's just making so many big 72 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: pitches and his stuff was good. So look, I mean, 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: he gave us, you know, what we needed and felt 74 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: really good about the outing he put forth. But I 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: felt pretty convicted, like, you know, especially we got the 76 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: double play. It's like, let's go get one more hitter 77 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: and be good. 78 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: And the other thing is so much of Major League 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: baseball managing these days is upstairs. A lot of it's 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: just numbers. Freed, was that a pitch count? And I 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: don't like that number. I mean, if you pitch one 82 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: hundred pitches, now, like that's as much as you're gonna pitch. 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: And so now, now the Dodgers are in a situation 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk about them in a second. Their bullpen's so 85 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: bad they're gonna blow through that. But the Yankees bullpen's 86 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: not that bad. It's not Dodger bad. Okay. So the 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: other thing is a lot of times it's like when 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: football coaches on fourth and one or fourth and two, 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: go for it. If you make it, you have courage. 90 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I like him. This guy's tough's genius. And if it fails, 91 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: guy's an idiot. How do you go forward on fourth 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: and two? So I don't like to do a lot 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: of post game Baseball is one hundred and sixty two 94 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: games long. You got twenty five two months in spring training. 95 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: These managers tend to know their staffs better than I do, 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: certainly better than the average fan does or media member. 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: So my take is it's like, okay, is it one 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: hundred pitches twenty four pitch inning? Previously, he don't that 99 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: great command, I'm gonna make the move and Luke Weaver 100 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: Ben Spotty faltered. That's the game, all right, Let's go Dodgers. 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: So the Dodgers are favored over the Cincinnati Reps. I 102 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: mean the Dodgers payrolls three times that it'd be more 103 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: if you weren't pushing Otani's salary down the road. The 104 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: reality is the Dodgers are gonna win this series. But 105 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: last night's a prime example of why they're not gonna 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: win win the World Series. They had an eight to 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: nothing lead and won ten to five. So here's how 108 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: it all started. First inning with show hey Otani. 109 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: The two one pitch, Otani turns on a ball dick. 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: To right field. It is gone. Show hey. Old Tony 111 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: kicks off the postseason with a bang. So Taiarskar Hernandez 112 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: also had a couple of home runs. They got an 113 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: eight to nothing lead, and they made Blake Snell, a 114 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: very good pitcher, he's had some shoulder issues through his career. 115 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: They made him go to seven innings. And the reason 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: is Dave Roberts doesn't trust the bullpen. Dodger fans don't 117 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: trust the bullpen. The Dodger bullpen doesn't trust the bullpen. 118 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: So They're gonna push their starters as long as they 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: can go, and they their bullpen last night was brutal. 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Three pitches, three pitchers, that's what It took fifty nine 121 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: pitches to get three outs again Cincinnati, and that's after 122 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: they'd scored three runs. So it's a bad bullpen. But 123 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: last night with the Dodgers, need is really good starting 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: pitching okay, and they need their big bats to deliver well. 125 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Molkie Betts had a couple hits, Freddie Freeman went two 126 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: for four. Oh Tani had a couple of bombs. Ta 127 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Oscar Hernandez had a couple of bombs. So it worked 128 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: last night. But in the eighth inning that bullpen to 129 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: the Reds fifty nine pitches, three pitchers just to get 130 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: three outs. So it was so Dodgers. I said this yesterday, 131 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: I think they blew twenty six saves. If they would 132 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: have just blown half that, you would add one of 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: the great Dodger seasons if they have blown just half that. 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: So they scored ten runs, they had fifteen hits. It 135 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: feels good, but this is how they're gonna have to win. 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna need Otani and Freeman and Max Munsey and 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts. They're gonna have to hit. And again, baseball playoffs, 138 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it's the very best pitching. They're gonna have to hit, 139 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: really high end pitching in high leverage situations because the 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: bullpen's not gonna work. It didn't work during the regular season. 141 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: It's not working against the best team, so. 142 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: You know it. 143 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that felt like a Dodger game. 144 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: Your stars, your money players delivered, you got solid starting pitching, 145 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: and the bullpen was awful. And that's the Dodgers. So 146 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: J Mack also watched on the train home Cubs and 147 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: the Podreys and the Podres have a very specific way 148 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: they have to play and if they don't play that way, 149 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: they can't win. So I think they're in trouble with 150 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the Cubs. But you know, we were both back there 151 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: when the baseball Yankee Red Sox. At the time, the 152 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Yankee spent the most money and the Red Sox were 153 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: spent the second most money, and they would bid the hotstole. 154 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: League was different. And then the Dodgers got, you know, 155 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: new owners, and then the Dodgers now are it's a 156 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: bank and they you know, they push their salaries down 157 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: the road. The Dodgers have the best team easily, and 158 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: the complaint in New York is, well, we don't because 159 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: they do spend money. But it's like Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone, 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: you don't make big moves. But it's funny about New 161 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: York because the Knicks just fired a coach after their 162 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: best season in ten plus years. The Giants and the 163 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Jets are constantly making changes, and the Yankees are kind of, 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: strangely for New York, strangely patient. And which is right, 165 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: the frenetic pace of the Jets, Giants and Knicks or 166 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: the Yankees patients. Now Yankee fans would say, I'd rather 167 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: be a little bit more like the other guys. But 168 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: the Jets, Giants are a circus and the Knicks had 169 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: mostly been a circus. And the Yankees win every year, 170 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: but they're incredibly patient. And my takeaway and the Yankees 171 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: is would you rather they be the other New York 172 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: teams who are making big swings? And Nets, Nicks, Mets, Jets, 173 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: those teams are chaotic? 174 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the problem is that we were spoiled with 175 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 4: the Jeter years winning so many World Series, And now 176 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: you say the Yankees are winning, but are they like, 177 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, I would trade ninety five wins and 178 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: a second round loss for a World Series, wouldn't you. 179 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. You know, we don't want 180 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 4: to become the Portland Trailblazers, where you're in the playoffs 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: every year but you're not winning a title. Yankee says, 182 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 4: want to see a World Series Colin, and they haven't 183 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: in a while, and then you know that disappointment. I'll 184 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 4: tell you this, if they lose today, I think you'll 185 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: see the Yankees spending in the off season big time, right, 186 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: You can't. 187 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: You can't lose by the Errand Judge making a fortune, 188 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole making a fortune. 189 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: John, there's no salary cap, spend go buy everybody. 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's spending smart. Why go spend that 191 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: on John Carlos Stanton who had injuries and you already 192 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: had a better version, Aaron Judge. So I mean my 193 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: take is I think the Yankees are an uneven team. 194 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: When I watched the Yankees play like this year, strikeouts 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of the league in sacrifices they scored, don't 196 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: have a good bullpen. Remember last year in the World 197 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Series and in the playoffs, they dominate the American League Central. 198 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: But they had a bunch of home runs last year, 199 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: but they were a bad fielding team. I mean the 200 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Say what you want about the Dodgers. 201 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: They have a bad bullpen, but generally the Dodge speed 202 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: can steal hit for average, hit for power, good starting pitching. 203 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Now this year the bullpen's awful. But the Yankees have 204 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: felt with all the money they spend, are they spending 205 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: it wisely? The bullpen's not very good. They're okay defensively, 206 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: but like they led. The only teams that struck out 207 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: more in baseball this year were the awful Rockies and 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the awful Angels. So it's like it's all or nothing 209 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: with the Yankees, and when you face elite pitching, it's 210 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot of nothing. 211 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 4: It's a lot of busts and Celtics three point shooters 212 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 4: galore in the playoffs. If you miss them, you're losing 213 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: your bounce. And the Yankees want to go home run 214 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 4: or nothing. 215 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: No, they're a three point They're an NBA team that 216 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: shoots threes but doesn't defend very well. And by the way, 217 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: when the Warriors were winning, they shot great threes. They 218 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: were also an elite defensive team. That's the Dodgers. You're 219 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: not going to be perfect. The Warriors didn't have size. 220 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: The Dodgers don't have a great bullpen. But when I 221 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: watched the Yankees, they're incredibly patient. They deserve a ton 222 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: of credit for that, but they're uneven. It's home runs 223 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: or nothing. It's hard to hit a lot of home 224 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: runs against elite pitching unless you're O Tom. He hits 225 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: them against everybody. So we got a lot of stuff today. 226 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff today. Joel Klatt breaks 227 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: down the crazy weekend of college football and this drama 228 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia with the Eagles is not going to end. 229 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: and neon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 231 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 232 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning 233 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't 234 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your. 235 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: Throat every day. 236 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest 237 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at 238 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: the Sportsbook and all the best guests. Do yourself a 239 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: favor and listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on 240 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 241 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about the Yankees being uneven. You know, 242 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: from ninety six to two thousand and one, you were 243 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: in five World Series, they won four of them. They 244 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: were a great team, hitting with runners in scoring position, 245 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: third in baseball during that span. Now they're twelve. They're 246 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with the home run. People Forget this. When they 247 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: were dominating, Jeter wasn't a big home run hitter. Was 248 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: Bernie Williams a big home run hitter? I mean, they 249 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: had really good starting pitching, They hit with runners in 250 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: scoring position, they took the extra base, they were very smart, 251 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: they were really good on the margins. They weren't a 252 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: big home run hitting team. I looked it up this morning, 253 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: thirteenth in home runs from ninety six to two thousand 254 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: and one when they were dominating baseball. Now, baseball has 255 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: obviously changed, and you know, home runs is what teams want. 256 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: But you start looking around baseball right now, I mean, 257 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: the Potterys have a very good team. They're doing it 258 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: with sacrifices and a great bullpen. There's a lot of 259 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: different ways to win. But when they were winning championships, 260 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: they hit for average when runners were in scoring position. 261 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Right now they don't, so they're kind of obsessed with 262 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: a home run. And listen, Aaron Judge is amazing, but 263 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: I mean remember earlier this year Aaron Judge got banged up. 264 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Yankees were not a good baseball team. So just when 265 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: I watched them, I see an uneven franchise. They're really 266 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: good at one thing, but there's holes in it, so 267 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they spend the money that wisely. And 268 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: you're looking around at the Brewers. I mean they hit 269 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: home runs too, so to the Blue Jays, but they 270 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: leave baseball in singles and the Podres don't really hit 271 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: for power at all outside of Machado and Tatisa a little. 272 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: But the truth is they have a great bullpen. So 273 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways to win, and it 274 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: does the Yankees feel a bit lobsided. So yesterday we 275 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: talked about this at length. Last year in Philadelphia, there 276 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: was a little AJ Brown drama, but it was different. 277 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: They scored like fifty some points in the NFC Championship 278 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: and they scored forty or something in the Super Bowl, 279 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: and everybody was on the Saquon Barkley train, like, oh, 280 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: he's setting records. He was the new guy. Everybody loved it. 281 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: So AJ Brown's like, okay, getting many balls thrown my 282 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: way whatever, Okay, winning cures everything. Usually in the NFL, 283 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: it's not going to cure everything. Here last nine games 284 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: for A. J. Brown in Philadelphia, he's averaging three catches 285 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: a game in thirty eight yards. He's arguably the second 286 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: or third best receiver in the game. So this different. 287 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Last year was different. Everybody was sharing in the joy 288 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: of Saquon Barkley. Everybody was in on it. Everybody loved it. 289 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: Everybody took a back seat. And also last year the 290 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: defense was great, number one total scoring defense. This year's 291 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty second. This year they're not getting to the quarterback, 292 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: so they need AJ Brown, They really need AJ Brown. 293 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Saquon's yards have been cut in half because everybody's stacking 294 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: the box. The words out on Jalen Hurts, stack the box, 295 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: make him throw. So you know, it's just interesting. Everybody says, oh, 296 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: it's okay, they're winning. Winning cures everything. There are exceptions 297 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: to every rule this the last nine games, including the playoffs, 298 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: they can't get the ball to Aj Brown. Now are 299 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: small at corner. In my opinion, during the trade deadline, 300 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: the Rams should make a move. They're tiny at corner. 301 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Maybe they got some six to three guy in the 302 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: scout team, but they're just too small. But last year 303 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: was different. The defense was great. They were scoring a 304 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: lot of points in big games. They were running the football. 305 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Everybody was sharing in that joy. That's not what they 306 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: are now. They need Aj Brown and they can't consistently 307 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: get them the ball in their last nine games. And 308 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: here's Brian Baldinger on his sort of mentality as a 309 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver. 310 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: The thing about Aj is this, he's different than other 311 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 5: wide receivers in that his mentality is like an offensive tackle. 312 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: He wants to absolutely obliterate the opponent in front of them. 313 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 5: He wants to take every corner the way Lane Johnson 314 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: takes every defensive end or Jordan Malatta takes every defensive 315 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 5: end and wants to drill them into the dirt, into 316 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 5: the dirt and how meat brass. That's what AJ wants 317 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 5: to do. He doesn't ever get that chance, then that's 318 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: what frustrates him. 319 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: You got to see the problems ahead of when they'll 320 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: eventually face the roadblock. The Eagles are four to zho. 321 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: They have a worse point differential than Minnesota that just 322 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: got housed in Dublin, and they can't figure out their 323 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: quarterback position. They have a worse point differential than the Jaguars. 324 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: So this thing eventually, you got to be able to 325 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: see things before their real problems because you have a 326 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: trade deadline opportunity here. And that's like, the Rams need 327 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: a corner unless they got somebody on the scout team 328 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: that I'm not fully aware of, and the Eagles have 329 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: a I mean, the only thing that blows up a 330 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: great dominant roster is drama. What's the most dramatic position 331 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL? In our lives wide receiver. So again, 332 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: I think aj Brown last year was like, Hey, it's 333 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: Saquan's year. We're winning. Okay, now he's got a trophy. 334 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Now Saquan's yards are cut in half. Now the defense 335 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: isn't great and they need him and they still can't 336 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: get him the ball. You could talk yourself into being 337 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: a good teammate last year, Hey, it's Saquan's year, Saquan's 338 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: not having the same year. Words out box is stacked. 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Here's j Mack with the news on the news. 340 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 341 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: All right, col, we got a phenomenal Thursday night football 342 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: matchup on paper at least, and that's Niners Rams. Okay, 343 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: it's gonna be at so Fi. The problem is we 344 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: have no idea who's playing for the San Francisco forty 345 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 4: nine Ers. The injury report is brutal. Rock Purty. We 346 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: don't know if he's gonna go. He talked about his 347 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: status for week five. 348 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 6: Thursday night game, and everything's you know, it's just it's tougher. 349 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 6: I don't have as many days to you know, get 350 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 6: right and heal up and feel better. 351 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: So just where wrap. 352 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 6: If I can play this game, I'm gonna play. And obviously, 353 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 6: you know I want to get right and get healthy 354 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 6: and everything. So but we need to win this game 355 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 6: against the Rams. So that's how I'm looking at it. 356 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: So let's just remove criticism from Purdy. The focus here 357 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: colin the forty nine ers. What's going on is this 358 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: gamesmanship Fromkyle Shanahan, because this morning in Vegas that line's 359 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: on the run. The Rams are now seven point favorites. 360 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: Acquay in Vegas here a recently. 361 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: I said this yesterday at five and a half, I 362 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: said this would be my favorite blazing five pick if 363 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I could pick it. But let me ask you. 364 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: Hear Purty in that, I don't know if this is 365 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: games a ship where he really may not play. Also 366 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: banged up, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Piersoll, They're not practicing, like, 367 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: who are we going to battle with here? Matt Jones, 368 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: who's digged up, Christian McAffrey gonna get thirty touches. Something 369 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 4: feels off. I don't know if Kyle Shanahan's playing a 370 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: game with his buddy McVeigh. 371 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Here's what happened. This is a big rivalry. There's a 372 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: lot of ego involved, and it's awesome. The Niners used 373 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: to own this series, and they owned it because they 374 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: had a better overall roster. But then the Rams started 375 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: drafting really really, really really well, and the Rams pivoted 376 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford. And since that time, it feels like 377 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: it's the Rams. Rams are younger, they're cheaper, they have 378 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: more flexibility, they've hit on more draft picks, they have 379 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: the better defense, and so this series has swung from 380 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: Remember what happened? It was back and forth, back and forth. 381 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: Niners started controlling it with Jimmy Garoppolo, and then mcveay 382 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: got really tired. Remember that game against the Niners. He 383 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: got frustrated on the sidelines. McVay showed I pinpointed this 384 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago with Jared Goff, where 385 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: you could tell McVay was done with it and he 386 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: didn't feel golf could take him to another level. So 387 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: they went and got Stafford and they started hitting on 388 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: defensive draft picks like all of them. Right now, there 389 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: is no question now for the next three years, this 390 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a Rams series and I think 391 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: tomorrow night you'll get a great look at it. 392 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm going to make a case for the Niners here, 393 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: but I don't know that you can remember Niners Colin 394 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: zero quarterback hits zero sacks on Trevor Lawrence. If you're not, 395 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: if you're giving Matt Stafford dime in the pocket, he's 396 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 4: gonna kill you. And if you have to manufacture pressure 397 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: with blitzes, DeVante and Puka, this kind of smells like 398 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: a blowout. Now, I will say, uh, the forty nine 399 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: ers are still three in one if memory serves, so 400 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: they're not. There's a you never want to say a 401 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: coach with punta game, but there's a world where hey, man, 402 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: let's let's rest our guys. We're not going to force 403 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: them back unners. 404 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: To re vision rivalry. So the truth is it'll be 405 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: a low scoring, intense first half. I think the Rams 406 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: will eventually pull away. But if I'm the Niners, all 407 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: I care about is I got to keep Kittle, Trent Williams, 408 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: and McCaffrey upright, because I'm not sure at this point 409 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: with banged up perty that mac Jones isn't as good. 410 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: I think if Brock was healthy, he's better. But so 411 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: to me, we're not going to be a great defensive team. 412 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: We don't have the personnel outside of Fred Warner. Bose's 413 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: gone for the year, so the Niners don't have great 414 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: defensive personnel. Warner is a first bout Hall of Fan. 415 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: After him, it's a lot of young guys should cross 416 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: your fingers on in a great defensive coordinator, Robert Solom. 417 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: The Niners have to win by scoring. So if you 418 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: told me Trent Kittle plays six sixteen fifteen games and 419 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey's healthy, they can win a bunch of games. Yeah, 420 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: but right now, I'm not sure dinged up brock Purty 421 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: is better than Mac. I know he is healthy, but 422 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think he is right now. 423 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: He makes he's trying to push himself. You watch that 424 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: Jags game. He made bad throws a lot. 425 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: Here's some pretty stats for this season. Again, limited sample size. 426 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: Pump the brakes. He's still a great quarterback. He's not 427 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: top ten this year, not top ten this year, but 428 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 4: he'll get there. 429 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: That limited of the samples. 430 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: All right, Let's move on to another big injury calm. 431 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 4: That's a Baltimore Ravens. This is not good man, Lamar Jackson. 432 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: The report from the Baltimore Sun as he could miss 433 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 4: the next two to three weeks. 434 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: Now. 435 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 4: We talked about it yesterday. Texans this week. Unbelievable turn 436 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: of events. The Ravens on the look ahead were nine 437 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 4: and a half. The Texans are now minus one and 438 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: a half. Colin this is enormous. Sounds like Lamar Jackson 439 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: will not go, but they have Texans rams By. Let's 440 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: wrest Lamar. Maybe he can make us make a move 441 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: in the second half. But Colin I talked about this 442 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: a little bit. Shadeur Sanders had the chance to be 443 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: drafted by Baltimore. Would he be starting? Remember, Baltimore wanted Shadur. 444 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: Would shaud Dour Sanders be starting over Cooper Rush this week? 445 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: If he had said Baltimore, yeah, I'll come in, he 446 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: took the route and maybe it was his dad, Dion, 447 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: I don't want to go to Baltimore. I'll never play. 448 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 4: Lamar is down for three weeks. Baltimore wanted Shaduur. Colin 449 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: Cooper Rush, we've seen him. 450 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: I think my belief has always been always been, if 451 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: you in any field, are offered a position and you're young, 452 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm not talking you're forty eight years old, you went 453 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: to UVA law school, you've been a law partner in 454 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: you I'm talking if you're in your twenties and you 455 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: are offered a job by a company with a history 456 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: of personnel excellence, take it, take less money, take less 457 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: of a position, get in the door. And I believe 458 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: that for everything. Now thirties, you've got kids, your careers moving, 459 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: then you can get picky. But if the Ravens are 460 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles both interested call, pick up the phone and 461 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: say I'd like to go there. That's my take always, 462 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: and I've said that before. Don't chase money, don't chase titles. 463 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Chase great management when you're in your twenties, because there's 464 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a finite amount of great executive front offices in this league. 465 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: The number is about ten and maybe. 466 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, this really has to get Chador upset to watch 467 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel getting to start this week for the Browns 468 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: and Chador is like buried on the practice squad again. 469 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: I know some people out there, Jay, come on, Cooper 470 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: Rush as a seasoned veteran, Okay, he would start over Shadur. 471 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily agree with that. She Dore's much more mobile. 472 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: This offensive line has not been great. And oh, by 473 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 4: the way, the Houston Texans pass rush Colin will Anderson 474 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 4: a company one of the best in the league. Man, 475 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: I wish Shador was on the Ravens. See I think 476 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: you'd be starting this week. Final story is your Bears 477 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: narrowly escaping Vegas with a big win on that late 478 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 4: field goal block. Chicago's run game only had two point 479 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 4: seven yards per carry. Meanwhile, the Raiders rushed for two 480 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: forty here's Ben Johnson talking about being upset with the 481 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 4: offensive run game. 482 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 7: When you look at it as a whole, it was 483 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 7: it was just a it was a mess. Man. I'm 484 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 7: very I'm just not proud of what we put on tape. 485 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: I think it's a reflection of myself. I always take 486 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 7: it personally. I just I saw us getting better the 487 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 7: first three weeks and in a lot of ways on offense, 488 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 7: and then this this was just a little bit of 489 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 7: a step back for us. 490 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bears on a buy, So you're you're tempering expectations. 491 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: So no, no, no, it's it's interesting now. So I 492 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: had a conversation two days ago on what a that Wednesday. 493 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: It was Monday with a Bears fan and I said, oh, 494 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: he goes, you got to be fired up. And I'm like, well, 495 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: it's a mess. That was what I said. It's a mess. 496 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: I said, you had three interceptions from Geno Smith. Raiders 497 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: are not a good team. You know, it's four turnovers, 498 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: three picks, two to the safety. And I'm like, and 499 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: you needed to block a field goal? Boy, why shouldn't 500 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: I be happy with a win? I said, you could 501 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: be whatever you want. I said, but dude, if you. 502 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: If you get four turnovers three picks, you got to 503 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: win going away. You should beat the Chiefs or the 504 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Bills if you get that. This is the Raiders who 505 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: can't block. So it's like Ben Johnson watched what we 506 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: all watched and is totally honest with it. If you're 507 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: the Bears' I always want and I get it. Bears 508 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: don't win road games, but it was a there are 509 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: losses when you come out of it totally concerned. By 510 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: week four, the offense cannot have false starts on fourth 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: and one. You just cannot do that. By week four, 512 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: I said, first couple of weeks, I'll give you a pass. 513 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: I mean we week one the Lions were a mess 514 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: with new coordinators. But you get to week four and five, 515 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: no fall starts on fourth and one, can't have them. 516 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 4: Sorry, real quick, con can we get the Bears schedule 517 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 4: on the screen, because we touched on this so by 518 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: week usually you used to get healthy, right the secondary, 519 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: maybe get healthy. Okay, we think they'll face Jaden Daniels 520 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: coming out of the buy, but Washington has not looked 521 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: great recently. Their defense got shredded by Michael Pennix. Then 522 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: you get the Saints. We'll get that a win. We 523 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: don't know if Lamar will be back. 524 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: For Week eight. We just don't. 525 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: There's a chance they're facing Cooper. 526 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: Rice and I said this before the season, this was 527 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: one of the high hardest rank schedule yep. And I 528 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: said at the time with you, I said, tell me 529 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: the show me the three game stretch of great teams. 530 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: This schedule is you get to buy. Next up, Jaden Daniels, 531 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: we think plays the bad Saints, Lamar who knows the 532 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: Joe Burles Bengals, the Giants at home that can't score. 533 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota's quarterback situation not good, Pittsburgh get home certainly winnable. 534 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: And Philadelphia, which has had the two worst offensive halves 535 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: in the league with their new offensive coordinator. This schedule 536 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: was overvalued. It's a normal NFL schedule. It's not a 537 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: great schedule. It's a normal one. 538 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: But if you go by win totals, right, Washington had 539 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: a high one. They were in the conference championship, Baltimore 540 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender, Cincinnati Super Bowl Vikings went. 541 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: To the playoffs. 542 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: Like before the season, this looked tough, but so many 543 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: things are breaking their way. I mean, who's starting for 544 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: the Browns in week fifteen. Maybe it's the door. 545 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Here's the other thing that 546 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: I said. I said, Lions don't have a great defense, 547 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys without Michael won't have it, Raiders don't, Washington didn't, 548 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: Saints don't, Bengals even with Borough don't. I mean, the 549 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: best defense they play is the Giants. They get them 550 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: at home, and the Giants can't score. So this I 551 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: think we over Like the Niner schedule was really easy, 552 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: but my take it's not that easy because nobody can 553 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: stay healthy. So that schedule was everybody said, oh, I'm like, hey, guy, 554 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: you guys, they're not playing with a full deck. It's 555 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: an old, brittle roster. And the Bear scheduled looked daunting, 556 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: but if you looked at it, it's like, well, they 557 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: don't play a great defense, yeah until New York in 558 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: week ten, So that means Ben and Caleb can get 559 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: rolling here. So I no, I mean, I think it's 560 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: I still think they're an eight win team. 561 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: You steal one, You steal one in Vegas, right, and 562 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: everything changed. Now by the way, I could be starting 563 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: a receiver for the Niners in week seventeen. My agent's 564 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: putting in a call today. 565 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, I've been working on. 566 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: The latter drills, Like I mean, I don't know what's 567 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: going San Francisco may have nobody left at that point. 568 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: Jmack with the news. 569 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 570 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: Herd Line news it is. 571 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend Aaron Rodgers a little bit coming up 572 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: next also, well, I'll defend Aaron Rodgers because he is 573 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: getting hammered. I don't mean like subtle jabs. He's getting 574 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: crushed by people who grade quarterbacks. And I'll talk about 575 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: that next third. 576 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 577 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific Saturday. 578 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: The fight for the Al Pennant agains with two game 579 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: ones as the league's best square off in the American 580 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: League Divisional Series. It all starts Saturday on Fox and 581 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: FS one. 582 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: I thought yesterday was an amazing day. I watched the 583 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: Cubs padres as I took the train home, and I 584 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: feel like baseball has become a little like college basketball. 585 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: The regular season las urgency, but for about three weeks, 586 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: college basketball is unbelievable, and for about six weeks, the 587 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: baseball playoffs are stellar. Yesterday was a great, great American 588 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: sports day. It had a March madness feel to it. 589 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: And you say, oh, call, you don't like baseball now. 590 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: I like baseball for six weeks and I love college 591 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: basketball for about three to four four weeks. You got 592 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: to give me urgency. When you do a syndicated radio 593 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: or TV show, it's just a different ballgame. But I 594 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: thought yesterday was unbelievable. You had the Yankee Red Sox drama, 595 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: the Dodgers' bullpen imploded again. I'll get to the Padres 596 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: and the Cobs at the top of the hour. Joel 597 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: Clad will be joining us as well. But yesterday was 598 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: just great sports and baseball. It's not everything like you know. 599 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: Not everything is great all the time, and the phone 600 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: is distracting. Football does a good job of making every 601 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday feel big. It's got like a World 602 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: Cup or Olympic feel where it's like, oh, this this 603 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: matters a lot. Not every sport can do that. That's 604 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: why the regular ratings, regular season ratings for a hockey 605 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: or a baseball or NBA can be a struggle. You 606 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: don't have urgency. We've become an event nation. That's what 607 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: we've become. We've become an event nation. Everybody's so distracted, 608 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: so caffeinated. There's so many platforms. You gotta make stuff 609 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: feel big. Barbie Oppenheimer, it feels big a Steve Spielberg movie. 610 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Then we all come rushing in. So I just thought 611 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: yesterday was great. So Aaron Rodgers, this is so it's 612 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: I'll explain it. But Aaron Rodgers now, according to PFF, 613 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: is the lowest graded quarterback in the NFL. Lower than 614 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, lower than Russell Wilson and Flacco, who have 615 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: been benched, lower than Ozero and four cam Ward, and 616 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: lower than Gino Smith, who just threw an interception last segment. 617 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: He's lower than all of them. He was twenty to 618 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: twenty four last weekend. He's completing sixty nine percent of 619 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: his throws as a one zero three passer rating. Not 620 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: to be obnoxious to PFF, but I'm going to go 621 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: with no, he's not the worst, and he may win 622 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: the division because currently in the AFC North, the starters 623 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: are Jake Browning, Dylan Gabriel, and Cooper Rush. He may 624 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: win the division. Here's Robin to defend Aaron Rodgers. He's 625 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: asked on this team. I said this two months ago. 626 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: He's Chris Paul. He's not Steph Curry on this team, 627 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: Aaron is, he is Chris Paul. Occasionally go hit DK 628 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: Metcalf or a back shoulder throw. I don't need you. 629 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't need Steph Curry. I don't need James Harden. 630 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: That's not what I need you to do. So he 631 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: is the lowest rated quarterback because of the PFF grading. 632 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: He has the fewest air yards per attempt. He's not 633 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: taking big swings down the field. He only has three 634 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: total big time throws all season. That's what they call 635 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: down the field into a tight window. But my take 636 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: is he's new here. They've got a good enough defense 637 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: to win. If you look at the quarterbacks he's gone against, 638 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: it's Carson Wentz with three offensive line injuries. My take 639 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: is Aaron in Dublin started looking at that offensive line 640 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: with the vikings. He started looking at Kevin O'Connell's inability 641 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: to adapt or change. He couldn't because of personnel. He 642 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: looked at the pressure on Carson Wentz. And Aaron's a 643 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: smart guy. He's watching in real time. What's happening, and 644 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't need to take any risks. I 645 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: don't need to throw the ball down the field. So 646 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 1: I think you have to be careful about PFF grade. 647 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: I've watched Gino Smith every snap this year, Aaron's been 648 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: the better quarterback. And I also believe Aaron's a very 649 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: smart guy, and he gets into in game situations and 650 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you let the game breathe. Sometimes the team needs energy, 651 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: sometimes they need a big throw down the field. But 652 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: in that game, from the very beginning, first drive, first 653 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: eight minutes, you're like, oh, Minnesota can't block him, Minnesota's 654 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: having a problem here. Then the guy rolls over and 655 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: he's hurt. Aaron read the room. So and if you 656 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: look at the schedule for the next couple of weeks, 657 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland and Cincinnati, they're gonna win two more games. Now 658 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: it gets really tough. After that, it's a lot of 659 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: Packers and Colts and Chargers and Buffalo and Baltimore and 660 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: at Detroit. But I will defend Aaron here. I do 661 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: think this happens all the time. You ever got in 662 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: for a big meeting, a sales meeting, and it kind 663 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: of goes sideways fast and you're like, I got to 664 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: read the room here, I just got to save the meeting. 665 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm not we've all gone on the date. You go 666 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: to a meeting, Aaron's in a big football game, and 667 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: you read the room during the game. I'm gonna scale back, 668 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: no big swings here. So I when I watched that 669 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: game with Aaron, the way they were running the football, 670 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: I mean they actually ran the football like they look 671 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: like a twenty twenty five offense. I think Aaron looked 672 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: at it and thought, guys, I'm just not Aaron said, 673 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make any mistakes. We're gonna win this 674 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: football game. I don't need to throw the ball down 675 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: the field, so I think, and that's nothing against PFF, 676 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: but I've watched every snap of GINO this year, and 677 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: I've seen cam Ward, and I watched Joe Flacco and 678 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Aaron knows what he has here. He's playing 679 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks with a turnover creating defense and an offense 680 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: that suddenly now is creating lanes offensively. Why throw the 681 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: ball down the field and take big risks? I think 682 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: he's smart. And this is, by the way, the third 683 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: straight nice thing i've said about Aaron on this show, 684 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, all right, So this story 685 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: is gone from compelling to a cautionary tale. Dylan Gabriel 686 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: will now start for the Browns. They're benching Joe Flacco. 687 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: But it's worse than that, is that if Dylan Gabriel fails, 688 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: they'll go back to Flacco. Shedders now third, here's Kevin Stefanski. 689 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: Excited for Dylan. 690 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 8: He's done everything, He's handled everything really well since he's 691 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 8: been on campus here. So we're just gonna have to 692 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 8: support the young man. Coaches, players, offense, defense, special teams. 693 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 8: We need to coach better. We need to block better, 694 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 8: catch better, run better, all the above. We need to 695 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 8: be better. And I know the quarterback position gets quite 696 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 8: a bit of scrutiny. I understand that, but this is 697 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 8: about our entire team playing better. 698 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: They have two first round picks, they need a franchise quarterback. 699 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: It's all okay, it's going according to plant. I think 700 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: they've actually played better than you would have accepted expected. 701 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: They beat Green Bay. I didn't think it wasn't on 702 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: my bingo card, so I thought the shaduor Sanders story 703 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: was fascinating. He dropped like a rock in the draft 704 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: and then he went to like OTAs and chopped it 705 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: up and was really good. And I checked because I 706 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: thought to myself, do I care about this more than 707 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: the audience? So when cable TV, I can go the 708 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: next day and look at my ratings minute to minute 709 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: to minute. And I looked at the Chaduur Sanders topics 710 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: for about a month, and the audience you were as 711 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: interested as I was. This story to me is, now, 712 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: what's the moral of the story. Can we learn anything 713 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: from this situation? And we can. If you're a great talent, 714 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: you can get away with more. If your marginal, you 715 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't call yourself legendary. Bomb pre draft interviews, get 716 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: two speeding tickets, Have your dad tell teams don't draft him. Now. 717 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: Chadeur lacked some self awareness. But young guys in their twenties, 718 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Ryder Cup Joe watched the crowd this weekend. 719 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: People in their twenties can lack self awareness. But here's 720 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: what I know about the NFL. They don't care if 721 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: you're a popular influencer. Thank god, they don't care, I mean, 722 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: and they don't care what you did in college, Will 723 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: Howard and Stetson Bennett won. Natties can't get on the field. 724 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes had a losing college record. I'm not going 725 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: to just cross Shaduur because he lacked some self awareness. 726 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: Most twenty three year olds do, especially if they grew 727 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: up with wealth. But he right now, he's a marginally 728 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: talented celebrity and the NFL just does not care. And 729 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the story is that interesting. I didn't 730 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: even know if I was going to talk about it 731 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: today when they brought it to me. But I do 732 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: think there's a lesson in here, and that is know 733 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: what you are and know what you're not. I've said 734 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: this four sports is kind of unusually cruel to young people, 735 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: and the quarterback position. You know, most of us were 736 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: goofballs at twenty three. I was most of us. You know, 737 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: you make really guys' brains develop more slowly than girls. 738 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: For the record, in college athletics, girls are often offer 739 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: scholarships eighth, ninth grade, tenth grade. Why because they mature 740 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: more fast, more quickly. You know what you're gonna get 741 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: with a young woman emotionally and physically. Guys they change. 742 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: You could have a guy that is. I mean, go 743 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: look at the story of Josh Allen, and I mean 744 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: could not get a junior college offer. Boys explode like 745 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: many of you. I grew seven inches junior to senior 746 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: year in high school. Like just guys mature physically and 747 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: emotionally different and so. But in the NFL quarterback it's cruel. 748 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: We need you to have the maturity of a thirty 749 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: eight year old guy at twenty four. Not at wide receiver, 750 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: not at Mike linebacker, not at corner, but at quarterback. 751 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: We do same. In the NBA, point guard Chris Paul 752 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: was not only gifted. Chris Paul was determined, obsessed, and 753 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: mature at twenty four years old. He played. I remember 754 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: talking to it NBA exec on this, He's like, he's 755 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: a He's like a thirty five year old, ten year 756 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: veteran in the NBA breaks in ready to go. So 757 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: it's very rare and it's unfair. But at quarterback you 758 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: got to be a grown up. That Johnny mandel Zel 759 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: stuff is fine for a lot of positions and fine 760 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: for a lot of industries, but you can't be a 761 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: goofball at quarterback or surgeon or pilot like I need 762 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: to grown up. Can't wear a tied die shirt and 763 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: be waking, bake in the morning and jump on my 764 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: delta flight. Not gonna work. I'm going for surgery. You 765 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: gotta be prepared. You can't have a hangover. I'm sorry. 766 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: And I think there is a moral of the story 767 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: on this is at that position, everything counts. Everything, every 768 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: single thing counts, all right, Jay Mack, Joel Klatz coming 769 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: up wild weekend to college football, and we've changed our 770 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: position on some of these quarterbacks. 771 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: Certainly, let me ask you about a quarterback who's in 772 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: college last year. 773 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel. 774 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so we know what Minnesota does. They love to 775 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: pressure and blitz you. Well, it didn't work against Aaron Rodgers. 776 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 4: I was just looking up some Dylan Gabriel numbers against 777 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 4: pressure in college. I don't know how much that translates. 778 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 1: To the league. 779 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 4: Do you think Gabriel is going to have a good 780 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 4: game here against a Viking. I'm kind of fascinated to 781 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 4: watch Gabriel because they liked him a lot coming out 782 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: in the draft. 783 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's another example of we talk ourselves 784 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: into size doesn't matter for the position. Yes, it does. 785 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: He's a very small quarterback. He has the second best 786 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: roster in the field. It's an elite defensive coordinator. I 787 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be a great game for 788 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: nothing against him. I don't think it'll be great. All right, 789 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: One down, more baseball to go.