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Speaker 1: forty one to seven loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4: That was ugly.
Speaker 1: It was good for one quarter, almost two quarters, right
Speaker 1: until the root caved in the last couple minutes of
Speaker 1: the first half. And here we are the Cowboys, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying assuring themselves, but knowing that they will have
Speaker 1: a losing season, sitting here at seven and nine with
Speaker 1: one game to go. Be the first losing season since
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty and only the second one since
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, So we're not used to this type of season.
Speaker 1: Knowing well, we knew last week it was over right
Speaker 1: two games to play and cemented the NFC East title
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, which means still since two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: No team is repeated in the NFC East as champions.
Speaker 4: Yesterday felt like a homecoming game, the home coming.
Speaker 1: It felt like at homecoming, like the one you scheduled
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to win, right.
Speaker 5: I mean it's like, you know, they treated us as
Speaker 5: if we were just doormats. I mean that's the way
Speaker 5: that the game looked. The inevitable was there, you know
Speaker 5: the entire time. This is the way the Eagles do.
Speaker 5: Whether you have Jalen Hurts or Picket, picket in the game.
Speaker 1: I didn't picket.
Speaker 5: And even you know, when you come in with thirteen
Speaker 5: quarterback doing touchdowns, yeah, you know, they'll let you know
Speaker 5: that you know, this team is might pack.
Speaker 1: It up and you might be might be over your head.
Speaker 4: Every everyone's taking vay cases.
Speaker 1: Uh. The way I looked at it, it was a
Speaker 1: combination of uncommonly bad decisions by Cooper Rush, the fact
Speaker 1: that they turned the ball over four times and they
Speaker 1: ran out of cornerbacks. They could have used your help.
Speaker 5: I probably would have added to the demise.
Speaker 1: When I found out that they were going to have
Speaker 1: to start Andrew Booth at cornerback, I'm going, oh, this
Speaker 1: team is in trouble, and I'm sure the Eagles and
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore knew all about it. He's been in over
Speaker 1: his head since he got here. And it was a
Speaker 1: combination of things that you know, you lose all these
Speaker 1: corners and then you know you lose Trayvon Diggs. You
Speaker 1: already had lost Josh Butler to injured reserve, they had
Speaker 1: gotten amani Ui back, and then he has to get
Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve. So here was what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: basically were facing. They had to figure out how to
Speaker 1: stop aj Brown and they had to stop Barkley. So
Speaker 1: to me, you were going to put doron Bland on
Speaker 1: Brown hopefully you you know, kind of keep him under control,
Speaker 1: but you had to do what you needed to do
Speaker 1: to stop Barkley, and so they kind of forced crowded
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage that left Andrew Booth in too
Speaker 1: many one on one situations with DeVonta Smith, and it
Speaker 1: got exposed. I don't know if you thought of any
Speaker 1: better defensive scheme that they could have come up with
Speaker 1: to try to take care of those two wide receivers
Speaker 1: and the running back on top of it, even though
Speaker 1: they had a backup quarterback Kenny Pickett play.
Speaker 5: And it's not just what was going on on offense,
Speaker 5: they just they really, to me, stuck to a conservative
Speaker 5: game plan. The Eagles did offensively. The problem that you
Speaker 5: had was your defense was with their backs against the
Speaker 5: wall the entire game. Right, let's just call it where
Speaker 5: there is. We were overmatched on the offensive line. These
Speaker 5: guys are they're well oiled and throughout the entire season
Speaker 5: they have.
Speaker 4: Been well oiled on how to run.
Speaker 5: Barkley and he finished off the Cowboys in good fashion
Speaker 5: the way he should have. You guys are a good team.
Speaker 5: This is the Eagles talking to us. You guys did
Speaker 5: very well against teams that you know, cemented themselves into
Speaker 5: the playoffs. And this is the kind of game this
Speaker 5: time of year. This is the kind of games that
Speaker 5: playoff teams win, and they win in this fashion. Thank
Speaker 5: you guys for coming. We appreciate you guys. You know
Speaker 5: we have a healthy right over here. It will still
Speaker 5: be there. But you guys were overmatched by us in
Speaker 5: both games, whether it's home or away.
Speaker 1: If you add the scorers to both games, I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to do that.
Speaker 5: Come on, you know, And I think the disappointment is
Speaker 5: we knew it was going to be a tough game,
Speaker 5: but you wanted to see better momentum by the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush had a great game against Tampa. But the
Speaker 5: Eagles not only have a good players, they have a
Speaker 5: good staff, right, And they looked at the game against Tampa.
Speaker 5: They looked at the game against Tampa, and they figured
Speaker 5: out everything that Cooper did well, right, and they were.
Speaker 4: Ready for it. They were ready for.
Speaker 1: That's not Bill Jones.
Speaker 4: Differ.
Speaker 1: Nate Newton coming in for coming in, coming in for
Speaker 1: the first quarter, coming in hot.
Speaker 4: He's coming in hot, doing we're doing well.
Speaker 2: And I catch up catch him.
Speaker 1: Couldn't stay away from an open mic.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: That's good, never open didn't like.
Speaker 1: And you're right, and and and then the Cowboys, you know,
Speaker 1: compounded that problem with making some bad decisions.
Speaker 4: Right, you have a defense like Philly.
Speaker 2: Which way.
Speaker 1: Two a couple of things, and you said it was
Speaker 1: like a homecoming? So am I blind something over the universe?
Speaker 6: There is something wrong with the TV.
Speaker 1: I was trying to stay away from it.
Speaker 2: I'll stay away from that.
Speaker 1: The color is way off, so us veil.
Speaker 2: You know it.
Speaker 1: This tells you how how this rivalry is for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: So we're coming in on the buses to the game,
Speaker 1: and you know how the Eagle fans out in the
Speaker 1: parking lots treat the Cowboys, right, And I'm thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: they're they're what twelve, twelve and three Cowboys are seven
Speaker 1: and eight. They're gonna look like this as a cake one, right, nah,
Speaker 1: fingers up, thumtains down, the whole way right. They're just
Speaker 1: enjoying it. And then when you were talking about you
Speaker 1: mentioned their defense. So it's before the game, early warm ups.
Speaker 1: I'm standing on the side eye line of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: bench and this number ninety comes walking by, and I'm going,
Speaker 1: that might be the biggest human being I've seen in
Speaker 1: quite some time. Jordan Davis. Okay, well, I'm guessing six
Speaker 1: four three, six, I don't know. And I said to myself,
Speaker 1: and somebody's got to block him. That is a big man, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, too pretty good actor. Also, because Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith little shoved to the helmets sent him flying, It's like,
Speaker 1: give me a break.
Speaker 4: The rest shouldn't even fall for that was they fell for.
Speaker 5: You should know that a guy that big can't fly
Speaker 5: that that far, period, unless he did it on his own.
Speaker 1: So I should look up Nate. You guess how big
Speaker 1: is he.
Speaker 4: He's a man full of grown. That's how I can say,
Speaker 4: is that the one of Georgia, that's one of.
Speaker 7: Both of them, one of them to Georgia and both
Speaker 7: of them from other kid is from a LA Tech.
Speaker 4: Number ninety three is from LA Tech Lucy v Tech.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, six six, three thirty six. You've got to
Speaker 1: be three point fifty, I swear. But anyway, when I
Speaker 1: saw that, I'm going the Cowboys offensive line's gonna have trouble.
Speaker 1: But for you know, a quarter or so, they did all.
Speaker 5: Right, That's what everyone says against Philly's defense, Right, for
Speaker 5: a quarter or so, everything is fine.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's not just the players the coach.
Speaker 5: I get it that the players probably say, Okay, I
Speaker 5: know what he's doing about. But the coaches made great
Speaker 5: adjustments defensively for Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: I've seen it.
Speaker 5: In every big game they've played. That's not a coincidence.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know they probably see they they made
Speaker 1: a different decision than Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay decided that
Speaker 1: if they weren't going to allow the Cowboys to run
Speaker 1: on them, and that you know, they were going to
Speaker 1: stop rec O'Donnell and Cooper Rush, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: beat us. Well, I think in this case, they decided
Speaker 1: that Cooper Rush wasn't going to beat them with our
Speaker 1: right Donald will get his yards, but we're not going
Speaker 1: to let these backups beat us in the passing game.
Speaker 1: And that's sort of what took place.
Speaker 7: All right, your turn, Yeah, man, just uh this this
Speaker 7: is what happens when you run into a motivated team
Speaker 7: that has something to play for, that have the better
Speaker 7: athletes and just the better team. I was just praying
Speaker 7: at Kellum would blow it for us.
Speaker 2: He would not blow it for but it took but
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 7: It took him a quarter and a half to figure
Speaker 7: out that we had the cornerback over there.
Speaker 4: It took him to I mean, it's just funny to me.
Speaker 7: How he tries to prove to the world when it
Speaker 7: comes to the Cowboys that I'm going to pass this
Speaker 7: ball when the key to the whole game was the
Speaker 7: one guy in the back.
Speaker 4: One guy in the back. This is his game. This
Speaker 4: is his game.
Speaker 7: And as much as I love what the Cowboys have
Speaker 7: done for us with the young guys, I'm a realist.
Speaker 7: You are realist. And you are realists, especially with this cap. Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I was just sitting there.
Speaker 4: He's sticking to the game plan, stick to the.
Speaker 1: Playing and welcome Bill Jones, who just got his Christmas
Speaker 1: present a little late.
Speaker 6: I bought myself a Christmas present a little late.
Speaker 4: Been gallivanting around in the new truck.
Speaker 6: No, I haven't got my truck yet.
Speaker 4: You got it yet?
Speaker 8: No, this is funny because okay, so I got me
Speaker 8: a new truck, and that's why I'm late. I've just
Speaker 8: signing all the papers and all that with my wife,
Speaker 8: your mother. Yeah, so on this f one fifty to
Speaker 8: Ford f one fifty.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's a proud sponsor.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, got a discount, and I'm I've had a
Speaker 1: Ford f one fifty forever.
Speaker 6: Okay, but this one has a toolbox on the back.
Speaker 1: Okay, you say, nice, he's got.
Speaker 6: So the sales. You know, I can we can get
Speaker 6: rid of the toolbox if you want. I said, you
Speaker 6: know what, if I look at.
Speaker 8: My wife, she's like she starts smiling, like he had no, no, no, no,
Speaker 8: she said, he's got no reason to have a toolbox.
Speaker 8: If I took up golf again, that would be a
Speaker 8: good place to put my golf.
Speaker 4: Back and you can lock them in there.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's if you knew anything about my lack
Speaker 8: of ability to fix anything, and then it would.
Speaker 6: Be hilarious that I would have a toolbox.
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1: So was this sort of like the commercial on TV
Speaker 1: where the girl whistles with the dog in her arms
Speaker 1: and the truck comes flying.
Speaker 2: Over the mountain.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty much all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so your wife taught you a truck.
Speaker 6: I have to wait a couple of days to get
Speaker 6: it though. They got to.
Speaker 2: Take it that they're taking a box out.
Speaker 8: So anyway, I've got two hundred and fifty one thousand
Speaker 8: miles on my hoo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think it was about time I got
Speaker 6: a new one.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for the same thing on my outbacks.
Speaker 4: Get that on the floor.
Speaker 8: That's not bad, that's right, No, there's nothing. There's absolutely
Speaker 8: nothing wrong with the one I've got. It's just got
Speaker 8: two hundred and fifty one thousand miles on it.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can hold on to mind till they
Speaker 1: take my keys away.
Speaker 5: Hey, you sometimes you don't want to be too long
Speaker 5: in these cars. Yeah, you don't want to be too long.
Speaker 5: You know, stuff is just waiting for you to have.
Speaker 6: It's amazing.
Speaker 8: See this one has more bells and whistles. You can
Speaker 8: actually plug in a charger, which I wasn't on the
Speaker 8: two thousand and that. I wait, wait, wait, you can
Speaker 8: plug it. Yeah, man, they've been doing that.
Speaker 4: We got all sorts of.
Speaker 1: Now now this is this is the key question.
Speaker 4: Can you push a button? It comes on. You don't
Speaker 4: have to put the key in and turn anymore.
Speaker 1: Can you talk on your phone without holding it to
Speaker 1: your ear? Uh?
Speaker 8: You blue?
Speaker 6: I we think so? Yeah, I saw somebody. You got
Speaker 6: to hear this. I haven't had a radio in my
Speaker 6: five years.
Speaker 1: What do you listen to when you drive?
Speaker 4: Phone?
Speaker 6: I just call up mix shots here on my phone.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you. So, don't you have an accident?
Speaker 5: Look at all those dolls and things. Hey this is
Speaker 5: not Oh sorry, I have to drive.
Speaker 8: My radio went out five years ago and it costs
Speaker 8: like seven hundred dollars to fix to replace it.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, no, I'm going to get a
Speaker 6: new truck here soon.
Speaker 4: There's been five years.
Speaker 6: It's gone by.
Speaker 4: Too many distractions, too many distracts.
Speaker 8: And then I figured out and this was the final
Speaker 8: straw when a guy pulled out in front of me
Speaker 8: the other day and I blared on the horn and
Speaker 8: the horn doesn't more.
Speaker 6: Well, I gotta get.
Speaker 4: A new truck. That must saved your life these days. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Felt totally defensive, kind of like the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad, My dad would have showed you what
Speaker 1: a substitute you could have used. He had a fifty
Speaker 1: four Chevy and this would have been nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 1: sixty six somewhere in there. The horn didn't work, so
Speaker 1: bought what are those squeeze things put on your bike?
Speaker 2: And he would roll down.
Speaker 1: Squeeze it in.
Speaker 6: That's how bad it was.
Speaker 1: All right, you're a lot like your dad, that's right,
Speaker 1: a whole lot.
Speaker 8: All right, take a break and reiter here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do that before you get into your
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Speaker 1: Where it was at the game by the way in
Speaker 1: the coaches box.
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott actually held court with the media.
Speaker 1: He did right at the door way. I figured it
Speaker 1: was leaven the locker room.
Speaker 8: So it was not anything formal. No, it wasn't do
Speaker 8: you catch anything that he's got sort.
Speaker 1: Of the end of it, and he was just given
Speaker 1: an update on whereas we have was and how tough
Speaker 1: it is to have to sit there and watch not
Speaker 1: be able to do anything about it, but said that
Speaker 1: he might start running lightly in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: but he was off the crutches so he was moving
Speaker 1: on his own.
Speaker 6: Okay, we're good.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we were talking about our take on the game, and.
Speaker 6: We'll mind that's very similar to yours. They're playing defense
Speaker 6: in the phone booth.
Speaker 5: But that's the that's the That game was the taking,
Speaker 5: taking the kid behind the shed and spanking the hell
Speaker 5: out of them.
Speaker 4: That was one of those games.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the first half they held Barkley
Speaker 1: to forty yards rushing. First quarter, they only had fourteen
Speaker 1: yards total offense. And it was a seven to seven game.
Speaker 8: You know, and the Cowboys offense was matriculating down it
Speaker 8: was okay, and.
Speaker 1: Had two hundred and some yards the first half.
Speaker 6: How big are third down plays? Third down?
Speaker 8: It was third and three at the thirty five, and
Speaker 8: I was thinking right before that interception, the pick six,
Speaker 8: I was thinking, okay, they have done exactly what they
Speaker 8: did last game on the opening possession of the first
Speaker 8: half against Tampa Bay and the final possession of the
Speaker 8: first half against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6: They drove basically.
Speaker 8: Thirty yards downfield, thirty thirty five yards downfield, and now
Speaker 8: you kick a fifty three yardfield goal. Okay, go incomplete
Speaker 8: pass on third and three and that's.
Speaker 6: The But instead it was a pick six. Okay.
Speaker 8: So then matriculate down the field again and you get
Speaker 8: a touchdown.
Speaker 6: Okay, But it.
Speaker 8: Was a third and nine play at the thirty four
Speaker 8: yard line. Same position on the field third down play.
Speaker 8: This time it was the twenty two yard completion to
Speaker 8: Brandon Cook's get working on Darius Slay who held him
Speaker 8: on the play, all right, That put him in position
Speaker 8: at the twelve yard line, and they were able to
Speaker 8: punch it in with the help of a de And
Speaker 8: it's a holding call on a third and seven play
Speaker 8: at the nine yard line. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: the Cowboys are having success on third down on offense
Speaker 8: and they score a touchdown. Fast forward a couple of
Speaker 8: possessions and you get to midway of the second quarter,
Speaker 8: third and eight for Philadelphia at the forty six yard line.
Speaker 8: Quarterback rolls right and hits Grant Calcaterra, the tight end
Speaker 8: who made a terrific catch on the ball for a
Speaker 8: thirty four yard completion.
Speaker 6: Against mccuamo against mcwamboo.
Speaker 8: That's right, so all right, that other guy playing that
Speaker 8: probably that guy ter the twenty yard line, and then
Speaker 8: you're in a position Barkley for three completion to Barkley
Speaker 8: for minus five. So you're they're at the twenty two
Speaker 8: facing third and twelve, and Kellen Moore gets Devonte Smith
Speaker 8: isolated on booth and twenty two yard.
Speaker 1: Touchdown out of the slot and he just couldn't keep up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you look, I kind of I rattled off
Speaker 8: five or six third down places.
Speaker 1: Well you missed one beginning of the second quarter, third
Speaker 1: and one, and they threw deep to Mingo and he
Speaker 1: threw a bad pass.
Speaker 6: He's on your take on that ever since.
Speaker 4: He's open, remember it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's looking towards the sideline when the ball
Speaker 1: should have been and it ended up inside and he
Speaker 1: never found the ball.
Speaker 6: That happened was that was the one he threw it
Speaker 6: on his outside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he throw outside shoulder, but he's looking inside.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was looking inside and threw it.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I said backwards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there was two guys on him. But it
Speaker 5: seems like if the ball was thrown, if he were
Speaker 5: have followed the ball.
Speaker 8: Well see, and that's why I asked you because that's
Speaker 8: what Greg Olsen said.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He he did not put the blame.
Speaker 8: On the quarter back as much as he put it
Speaker 8: on Mingo not tracking the ball.
Speaker 5: And that's not the first time that's happened this year
Speaker 5: for US. I Cook did it with Dak early in
Speaker 5: the season, and that's happened I'd say about three times
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 6: That's the old red line drill down down the you.
Speaker 5: Keep it inside, you stay close to the hash so
Speaker 5: that you can give the quarterback room to throw over.
Speaker 8: Your and on the practice field to practice that, they've
Speaker 8: got red lines down the field, which gives room and
Speaker 8: your coach to run the red line, and it gives
Speaker 8: room for the quarterback to throw the ball to the side.
Speaker 5: Let me say this, All of that stuff is cute
Speaker 5: until you get a defender with you. I don't know
Speaker 5: how many times I've seen it where you have a
Speaker 5: great athlete that can run a round with no one
Speaker 5: on him, but when you have a an adjustment that
Speaker 5: needs to be made based on what the dbs do,
Speaker 5: you can't run arount and think at the same time.
Speaker 4: And it seems that if he was caught in.
Speaker 5: This is how I run this route, this is where
Speaker 5: it's supposed to be. Okay, I'm thinking this all through. Well, yeah,
Speaker 5: you forgot the dog on ball is coming and that
Speaker 5: has had that's something that wide receivers have a problem yet.
Speaker 1: And that was set up because they were picking on
Speaker 1: twenty seven and Mitchell Mitchell, who was their first round
Speaker 1: draft and he had beat him and he never found
Speaker 1: the ball in the best that's.
Speaker 5: Not that's that's happened several times by for the Cowboys
Speaker 5: this season.
Speaker 1: McCarthy could say.
Speaker 2: It was like, think the wind win there.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were going.
Speaker 5: He was running as if he was running a sprint
Speaker 5: and not playing football. I'm running a route. Oh that's right.
Speaker 5: I have to catch a ball. Sometimes wide receiver, especially
Speaker 5: ones with not much experience, they forget that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go through with the play, but it might
Speaker 4: be coming to you.
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he.
Speaker 6: Ever saw it. And that's what that's what your point is.
Speaker 1: But I'll go back to the ball. I'll go back
Speaker 1: to the point.
Speaker 5: He decided to look for the ball way past the
Speaker 5: time it is for that play to be over.
Speaker 1: I got a feeling third and one that wasn't the
Speaker 1: call you think, so, I think they were. I think
Speaker 1: it was one of those you look at it and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because afterwards I saw on the sideline McCarthy and
Speaker 1: Rush talking Okay, so take a demonstratively, by the way.
Speaker 4: Take it. Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm happy to hear that.
Speaker 8: Okay, because I was wondering, and I think a lot
Speaker 8: of people were wondering, why were they were taking a
Speaker 8: shot there?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 6: What about on the touchdown to Tobert? Did Cooper talk
Speaker 6: about that at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think that was.
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, There was another one that was, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the play call, but you have the right to change.
Speaker 8: That's what That's the way Greg Olsen analyzed it. He
Speaker 8: said that was a run right right, and.
Speaker 6: Cooper on his own.
Speaker 8: Along with Tolbert, decided to take advantage of the matchup
Speaker 8: against Gwinneon Mitchell on the left side.
Speaker 1: He might have thought, oh, I'm hot here do it again.
Speaker 6: It was just a couple one. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: And at that point, if you just look at the
Speaker 1: stats of the first quarter, Philadelphia had fourteen total yards,
Speaker 1: nine of those belonged to Berkley.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: And then the cat got let out of the bag
Speaker 1: thanks to the They recovered that fumble on second in
Speaker 1: five and it would have been third and six, and
Speaker 1: and Booth got called for illegal content downfield and that
Speaker 1: led to the touchdown that made it fourteen to seven.
Speaker 1: And after that it's like, well, what are you going
Speaker 1: to do? Because not only did they not have ourarie there,
Speaker 1: they had signed Cayman Hall to the fifty three for
Speaker 1: depth but special team, and then he couldn't play because
Speaker 1: he had a hamstring injury and they had to elevate.
Speaker 1: Is it Troy Troy Pride off the practice squad and about.
Speaker 6: Who got ejected from the game.
Speaker 1: He lost money playing?
Speaker 4: That'sat I'll guarantee you that's crazy.
Speaker 2: He and Jalen.
Speaker 1: Brooks, because you know, Brooks's six round draft choice, so
Speaker 1: he's probably it's the you know, second year rookie minimum
Speaker 1: and you know Pride that's what he's on. And I
Speaker 1: bet they get fined a good twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 8: Do you think do you think the NFL takes into
Speaker 8: account the salary that the player makes when they make
Speaker 8: a decision on what they're going to find him, that
Speaker 8: that is, this is a call up player from the
Speaker 8: practice squad.
Speaker 1: I think they should think they do, because I guarantee
Speaker 1: the NBA did when they find Anthony Edwards one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars I.
Speaker 12: Saw and there was a history of yes, that for
Speaker 12: what I looked that up last night.
Speaker 2: By the way, that they don't they don't know they don't.
Speaker 6: They don't take take into account the players.
Speaker 12: Have a flat list of like first offense, second offense.
Speaker 12: First offense for fighting is thirty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh, they lost money.
Speaker 2: He's paying to play. Yeah, that was a w REC
Speaker 2: game for him. He's a game for him.
Speaker 6: His next two games will be too. Then.
Speaker 12: I mean he probably gets I don't know, I don't
Speaker 12: know his salary, but like that comes up to like
Speaker 12: six hundred and sixty six thousand a year.
Speaker 1: He's he's actually a like a third or fourth year player.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 1: So the the minimum for that, it's got to be
Speaker 1: over a million.
Speaker 12: So if you divide that by seventeen thirty nine thousand
Speaker 12: with six hundred and sixty six.
Speaker 8: Thousand, So yeah, so for on the on the six
Speaker 8: sixty salaries, thirty nine okay.
Speaker 12: In the game yeah, oh, I think the second offense
Speaker 12: for fighting is seventy seven.
Speaker 8: So basically it's a game check for a minimum wage player.
Speaker 8: Is the first offense fighting?
Speaker 6: Fine?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying says fighting?
Speaker 12: So I'm assuming fighting getting thrown out of the game
Speaker 12: is probably the same efense, right.
Speaker 6: But you said it was did you say it was
Speaker 6: thirty nine thousand, it was.
Speaker 2: It's like thirty nine one hundred and something dollars. That's
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 8: First offense, which which is basically the same amount for
Speaker 8: a quote unquote minimum wage player in the league a
Speaker 8: game check.
Speaker 6: Right, So there you go.
Speaker 1: Did they have to pay more because the poor official
Speaker 1: buried underneath pile?
Speaker 6: I don't know if Troy Pride is married or not.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine telling your wife?
Speaker 12: Because the way I think they work it out with
Speaker 12: the NFL Players Association is like, we're not gonna like,
Speaker 12: if two guys are gonna fight, you know, you gotta
Speaker 12: find the guys the same amount.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? You can't be like, well, this
Speaker 2: guy is a little bit, you know. I think that's
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: They try to decide who started.
Speaker 2: Who started it. I think it's both fighting.
Speaker 6: All I know is if it were me, I might
Speaker 6: as well not come home.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be getting that truck today.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right, uh invoice from the NFL.
Speaker 2: I wonder if you can.
Speaker 12: I wonder if you can like like, hey, yeah, I'll
Speaker 12: pay it out over it, you know, can we.
Speaker 2: Can you take it out on my next check?
Speaker 12: You know, I got these Christmas presents I have to
Speaker 12: pay off.
Speaker 2: I just bought a new car.
Speaker 6: And Jalen Brooks is basically in the same boat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the same boat.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I bet Tyler Smith for a personal file gets
Speaker 1: fined also, which he shouldn't.
Speaker 12: Yeah, personal fouls get fined. But the fighting was I
Speaker 12: looked up fighting.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing.
Speaker 1: Fighting is bad.
Speaker 2: Yes, you had an official, It's like two or three
Speaker 2: k jacks.
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Speaker 8: place of a practice squad player who got called up.
Speaker 6: For a game and got ejected for fighting.
Speaker 8: Okay, and we've determined it's a thirty nine thousand, five
Speaker 8: one dollar fine, do you which is equivalent basically to
Speaker 8: a game check for that player. My question is if
Speaker 8: I retired from football.
Speaker 6: At that moment, I do a meaning I'm not paying that.
Speaker 8: Do I still get the paycheck of thirty nine thousand.
Speaker 12: So, knowing what I know, and I know a bunch
Speaker 12: of players over the years, I'm moving here for twenty
Speaker 12: five years. So I mean Terrence Newman was in my wedding.
Speaker 12: I think that everybody knows that same dropper name dropping.
Speaker 2: Okay, Terns is my guy.
Speaker 12: So what I've been told is is when a fine comes,
Speaker 12: you get them, You get the FedEx and it's already
Speaker 12: off your check before you get the check.
Speaker 6: So I don't have the option.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it was I can't remember who told me this.
Speaker 2: I think it was Bryce Butler told me this.
Speaker 12: He goes, you know, the worst part about the fines
Speaker 12: are is they do it after taxes, so they you
Speaker 12: you basically don't take it out of like pre check.
Speaker 2: So they go through all the tax processes.
Speaker 12: Like a lot of people realize, like you play in Philadelphia,
Speaker 12: you play like the Philadelphia Area tax, you play the
Speaker 12: Philadelphia State Tax. You pay all these taxes and then
Speaker 12: they after your game check and then they take the
Speaker 12: final So where.
Speaker 6: Does the fine money go?
Speaker 2: Does it go to it.
Speaker 6: You can write it off as a contribution to a charity.
Speaker 12: Don't know if you can do that, you have, Okay,
Speaker 12: all right, limited fines for the team goes to the
Speaker 12: gen and Jerry, don't you have been fine?
Speaker 8: Oh reatenizing no uniform uniform?
Speaker 12: Okay, so leave to say that because because I sent
Speaker 12: you in your text message ever since since you the
Speaker 12: final list, look it up. You can scroll down to
Speaker 12: uniforms and check out how much that's going to cost you.
Speaker 12: That was probably one of your game checks. You see
Speaker 12: that one. Scroll down a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's probably like a little bit. It's right, it's above
Speaker 2: fighting violations. Yeah, violations, Okay, it says uniform.
Speaker 12: There you go get to something that I oh, by
Speaker 12: the way, fifty six.
Speaker 2: Hundred dollars for uniform violation there. Ever since yeah it.
Speaker 1: Is fifty, it occurred to me that the Cowboys loss
Speaker 1: now gets them the third place schedule. Okay, against the
Speaker 1: we were locked in the things that are the divisions
Speaker 1: that you don't play, right, So it's the and Chris,
Speaker 1: you can look this up. Make sure I got it right.
Speaker 1: That the divisions they have to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah for this?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, NFC North, So three of the four teams
Speaker 1: have winning records, and the a f C West three
Speaker 1: of the teams I believe, Yeah.
Speaker 8: They're three playoff teams. Well, if Denver makes it will be.
Speaker 6: Three and Chargers and the Chargers.
Speaker 1: So the NFC West third place, I think it's Arizona
Speaker 1: right now, they're out right, yes, Uh, there's a kicker
Speaker 1: to that mech NFC South third place, I guess that's.
Speaker 6: New Orleans or Carolina's closed.
Speaker 1: And the a f C East is it uh Jets.
Speaker 6: Jets right now?
Speaker 1: Because New England's last.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, New Eleands got the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: Now, right, So what was the kicker? Chris?
Speaker 2: So, here's the thing.
Speaker 12: Arizona is in third place in in C West, right,
Speaker 12: but they played their last week in the seasons.
Speaker 2: They played San Francisco.
Speaker 12: San Francisco wins the game, they flip place, they flip.
Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing on that. San Francisco right
Speaker 6: now is six and nine.
Speaker 8: They host Detroit tonight and you take, oh, well, Detroy's
Speaker 8: gonna win that game.
Speaker 6: Well, here's the problem with that. Detroit doesn't have to win.
Speaker 8: In fact, it's a meaningless it's a meaningless.
Speaker 1: Game nothing because if they finished in a tie with Minnesota.
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter right now because they finish Sunday Night
Speaker 8: against Minnesota, and whoever wins that game is going to
Speaker 8: get the number one seed in the playoffs.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so tomorrow Tonight's game means nothing to them.
Speaker 8: They would have the tiebreaker on Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Wait say that again.
Speaker 6: Well, right now, right now, the Lions are thirt what
Speaker 6: is it thirteen and two?
Speaker 2: Thirteen and two, thirteen and two in.
Speaker 6: Minnesota's fourteen and two.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 8: If the Lions lose tonight to San Francisco, they'll be
Speaker 8: thirteen and three, But if they beat Minnesota, both teams
Speaker 8: will have a fourteen and three record. Detroit has the tiebreaker, Okay, okay,
Speaker 8: And if the Lions win the night then they still
Speaker 8: have to beat Minnesota in the final anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh, I got you.
Speaker 4: So, So in.
Speaker 8: Case they be at the same record right now, they
Speaker 8: have to finish ahead of them.
Speaker 1: They would have to, so one of them is going
Speaker 1: to get the number one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the winner of the game Sunday Night gets the
Speaker 8: number one fill So as it relates to Arizona in
Speaker 8: San Francisco, San Francisco could win tonight a meaningless game
Speaker 8: for Detroit and pull even with Arizona.
Speaker 1: So even though the Cowboys get a third place schedule,
Speaker 1: they don't get a break because they got to play
Speaker 1: the teams with the best divisions from this year.
Speaker 12: Oh but honestly, San Francisco being a fluke year for them, right,
Speaker 12: you may end up having to play them, which arguably
Speaker 12: you could probably say they're part of a first place
Speaker 12: schedule next year.
Speaker 1: Now, is Philadelphia next week playing for the number two seed?
Speaker 6: No, they're locked in.
Speaker 2: They're locked in.
Speaker 1: They are number number two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, they do.
Speaker 12: I think they do have three losses, but I don't
Speaker 12: think they have the tiebreakers.
Speaker 2: No, I know what I.
Speaker 4: Looked up there. They're NFC.
Speaker 1: Conference. Well yeah, that, but the conference records better than
Speaker 1: uh whatever the tiebreaker I think was going to be.
Speaker 1: Oh no that was Washington.
Speaker 4: I take that back. Can I say that? Please throwback?
Speaker 4: He's good. I mean, he's like Billy Sims good, you know.
Speaker 1: You know what, And he's not that big. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's right.
Speaker 12: So let me ask you this, would you play Barkley the.
Speaker 2: Last game.
Speaker 6: Giants?
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, no, don't play him. I play I play him.
Speaker 2: You're that close.
Speaker 6: You got to do it.
Speaker 4: You got to do it. I play him, and and man,
Speaker 4: I play him and just well think about every carry.
Speaker 1: Please don't get there think about what they did yesterday,
Speaker 1: because I'm sitting there going, this game is over and
Speaker 1: they're running three tight ends right and a full back or.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I mean you don't want to.
Speaker 1: But you didn't have to run him right. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there going, what if he gets hurt trying to chase?
Speaker 1: And then I dawned. I mean they were trying to
Speaker 1: get to two thousands, right because I was.
Speaker 6: Just cutting down the difference also on the hunt.
Speaker 5: Now that's that's I mean, we have to play the game.
Speaker 5: And if this guy wants to play and he wants
Speaker 5: to chase history, I think we owe it to history,
Speaker 5: We owe to the fans to do this.
Speaker 4: I just really do. Uh. That's what the running backs
Speaker 4: deal is.
Speaker 5: So you're cutting us as a running back right now,
Speaker 5: where we're paid less than any other offensive player out
Speaker 5: there on the on the field, and now you don't
Speaker 5: want me to go for this record.
Speaker 1: You might get more than a center, yeah, or a guy.
Speaker 4: A guard draft in the first round. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: would I would go for it.
Speaker 5: I think I think, I think, I think the fans
Speaker 5: and the NFL are together. I think they all. We
Speaker 5: owe that to the fans to try and make the record.
Speaker 1: So does it get an asterisk because it's seventeen games? No, No,
Speaker 1: Dickerson only.
Speaker 4: We can't. We can't do that.
Speaker 6: Dickerson will put.
Speaker 1: He already has. Yes, I saw the interview, and that's fine.
Speaker 4: That's fine. But because you've got out, you've got some players.
Speaker 1: That he passed, well he passed oh J J fourteen exactly.
Speaker 5: Let's let's just let's just let the records stand. You know,
Speaker 5: if you want to put the act by it, you
Speaker 5: can do that.
Speaker 1: But it's still a hell against the Giants.
Speaker 5: He brought to do that in the first Come on,
Speaker 5: and first of all, the poetic justice about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: I'm sure the Giants management they want to be coming
Speaker 5: to that game.
Speaker 4: They don't want to. They don't want to see that.
Speaker 1: Must the g Yeah if he still has.
Speaker 4: A job, right, No he doesn't doesn't. No, No, he's going.
Speaker 1: They did everything.
Speaker 4: They should invite him. See what you did?
Speaker 1: Yeah right here right.
Speaker 4: Fifty yard line?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, Yeah, what a what a league?
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know, Adrian Peterson came within nine yards of Eric
Speaker 8: Dickerson's record in two thousand.
Speaker 6: Twelve and he played play the last game.
Speaker 8: Now, I was just looking it up. They finished, Minnesota
Speaker 8: finished ten and six. In that last game, they beat
Speaker 8: Green Bay thirty seven thirty four, and I'm trying to
Speaker 8: get a wild card. They had a wild card spot,
Speaker 8: and I don't know whether they had to win it
Speaker 8: to secure it.
Speaker 6: Probably did, But.
Speaker 4: Well, did he have carries? He had?
Speaker 8: He had thirty four carries for one hundred and ninety
Speaker 8: nine yards that yeah, and he wound up just short.
Speaker 4: And see, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 5: And I say throwback, I guess that to put Barkley
Speaker 5: in the throwback running backs that are dependable running backs
Speaker 5: that you don't necessarily worry about running them too much.
Speaker 5: Agent Peterson, you could run him for two games in
Speaker 5: one day and he would carry every y'all. He would
Speaker 5: carry every carry as if it was his last, and
Speaker 5: he would he rarely got injured.
Speaker 8: Well yeah, and that's the thing and with Barkley is
Speaker 8: he's had a history of injury issues.
Speaker 4: That's the day.
Speaker 5: And so he's had injuries already. He has gotten hurt,
Speaker 5: but he's overcome all of that. Obviously, this you know,
Speaker 5: now the Giants are gonna the Giants are gonna be
Speaker 5: eating a lot of crow next well.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you ran him thirty one times just
Speaker 1: to get over two thousand, you're playing them, I bet.
Speaker 5: And then you said, you know, the camera is going
Speaker 5: to be facing the Giants booth, you know, the executive booth.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just after every first down run that
Speaker 5: he makes.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll say for TV purpose, they'll super imposed
Speaker 1: his yardage and carries right next to the score right
Speaker 1: to keep you.
Speaker 4: Track of it. Man. That's gonna be something next week.
Speaker 8: And by the way, it looks like Minnesota needed to
Speaker 8: win that game because they actually wound up the they
Speaker 8: got the last wild card spot Chicago. Currently, this is
Speaker 8: in the twelfth season. I'm they got the last wild
Speaker 8: card spot at ten and six and Chicago finished with
Speaker 8: the same record at ten and six, so that there
Speaker 8: was a difference there.
Speaker 4: Too, So making a difference in the league, that's.
Speaker 8: Why you got a draft one in the first round, right.
Speaker 8: Barkley was the second overall pick, Peterson was the seventh
Speaker 8: overall pick. Ashton st will be where the Cowboys picking.
Speaker 1: Twelfth overall twelfth? Well, I mean, if you think about
Speaker 1: positions you need unless there's some Jordan Davis standing out.
Speaker 6: There, man, I wish there was one Jalen Carter or Carter.
Speaker 1: These guys are so you were you were listening right
Speaker 1: when I said he walked by me on the sideline,
Speaker 1: he didn't have his pads on, and I'm going, somebody's
Speaker 1: got a block here.
Speaker 4: I gotta say.
Speaker 5: I was on the sidelines for a preseason game and
Speaker 5: Cam Newton came running bout in his uniform, Like what
Speaker 5: the hell?
Speaker 1: So when I said Barkley wasn't that big, he's only
Speaker 1: six foot yeah, but he's two thirty two.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: And I think it's all in his thighs right away.
Speaker 6: Right, he got those new House thighs.
Speaker 4: That's true, he does all right.
Speaker 6: Anything else, No, we're going tomorrow, right yep.
Speaker 8: Not on Wednesday, Not on New Year's Day, though the
Speaker 8: Longhorns will be playing at high noon on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I hope it's not open locker room. Well, the players
Speaker 1: are off tomorrow, so they're doing something on Wednesday.
Speaker 6: Be later in the day.
Speaker 1: You think, get them off their feet, that's right.
Speaker 8: Put in McCarthy press conference today at three, and the
Speaker 8: coordinators are going at words, yes, okay, and of course
Speaker 8: it gotta go all right, and it is a noon
Speaker 8: kickoff on Sunday against the Washington Commanders one thirty.
Speaker 6: She didn't get that by moe. Kickoff today.
Speaker 8: Oh, Missouri plays and I wasn't one of those big
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Speaker 6: Who they playing Iowa? Okay, it doesn't that's right. And
Speaker 6: the wide receivers not playing.
Speaker 1: Right, probably not, No, he ain't playing okay.
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