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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. This is the official Colts podcast, giving

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Speaker 1: you an updated look and what's new with the horseshoes.

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Speaker 1: get the podcast started. Another tough one man, another tough

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Speaker 1: one week eleven for the Colts. That one hurt. I

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Speaker 1: think it's Tuesday. I think most Colts fans are still

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Speaker 1: kind of picking at the scab from Sunday seventeen sixteen

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Speaker 1: heartbreaker to the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, Wednesday, sort of

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Speaker 1: the week where you kind of turn the page and

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Speaker 1: I had a ten point lead there in the four

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Speaker 1: quartered Lara Overton, Yeah, that was tough. That. That's a

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Speaker 1: Swizz Beats reference mate, which you didn't get. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: song onto the next one, and they just repeat that like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: always make like inappropriate comments, you know, I laugh at everything.

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Speaker 1: You should be on the bomb and Tom Show the

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Speaker 1: maturity level of a sophomore in high school. That's this

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Speaker 1: is where I fit in on my audience, me and

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Speaker 1: Chris Deee over there. Yeah, well, you guys were inside

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Speaker 1: that locker room again. It's just really really disappointing the

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Speaker 1: way that game ended. Considering how well the Colts defense played.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that more in depth coming up. But JJ,

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Speaker 1: compare to some of the other tough losses this team

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Speaker 1: We need to execute better. You need to execute in

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Speaker 1: NFL insider Dan Graziano. He was at Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 1: about it, it's had to carry the team all year

426
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Speaker 1: and that's probably going to be the case for the

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Speaker 1: final six games, right, I mean, and especially with some

428
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Speaker 1: of the teams you've got come. Yeah, and it just

429
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Speaker 1: stinks when that unit, the defense gives up only seventeen

430
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Speaker 1: points and just over three hundred yards to a great

431
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Speaker 1: offense like Philadelphia and you can't collect a win. You

432
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Speaker 1: don't have anything to show for fifty eight of those minutes.

433
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Speaker 1: You're only given up ten. Right from that standpoint, you

434
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Speaker 1: try not to be too critical because again, by and large,

435
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: this season, the defense has been awesome but at the

436
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's all about did you score

437
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: more points than the other team. There's four quarters of football,

438
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in the NFL sort of like the

439
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: last four minutes of the NBA or the back nine

440
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: on you know, a major and professional golf for the masters. Right,

441
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: So when your offense is scoring only fifteen points per game,

442
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: you gotta tell yourself on defense. And I'm sure some

443
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Speaker 1: of those guys are guys. We can't give up twenty

444
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Speaker 1: a day. And holding a team to twenty points in

445
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: the NFL, I think as a tremendous feat in modern

446
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Speaker 1: day National Football League, and the Colts have done that

447
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Speaker 1: seven times. Think about that. The Colts have held teams

448
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Speaker 1: to twenty points or less in seven games on the

449
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Speaker 1: season and they are three, three and one in those games.

450
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Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. It is in it. It just

451
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Speaker 1: shows I think when you look around the league and

452
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Speaker 1: you see some teams that are going through what the

453
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Speaker 1: Colts are going through. The Denver Broncos they have that

454
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: defense is awesome. Yeah, Jiroverro is doing such a good

455
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Speaker 1: job with them. They got dudes who fly around the field,

456
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Speaker 1: and that that Denver team, they're what U three and seven.

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's hard to rely on a defense

458
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Speaker 1: as much as the Colts are relying on their defense

459
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Speaker 1: in a league that's geared toward offense. It's just it's

460
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Speaker 1: hard to do that, right. And you know, kind I'm

461
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Speaker 1: kind of in the same boat as you, Matt, where

462
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Speaker 1: you don't want to go too hard in on on

463
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Speaker 1: the Colts defense because to hold Philly, Philly and Kansas

464
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Speaker 1: City right to seventeen seventeen points. No, I'm not being critical, law,

465
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Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out that that's their lot in this season.

466
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Speaker 1: They're they're having to shoulder all of this responsibility and

467
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: to drive it home even further, I mean, it's all

468
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Speaker 1: about passing, right. It's a passing league. The Colts have

469
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Speaker 1: held five teams to under two hundred yards passing and

470
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Speaker 1: they're one and four in those games, So you know,

471
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Speaker 1: I mean Rick Van Turrey talked about it on Colts

472
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Speaker 1: Monday Night the other night, saying, well, if the defense

473
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Speaker 1: was truly elite, they'd have more wins. Again, that's the

474
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Speaker 1: reality of it. But you just you just have to

475
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Speaker 1: do what you have to do that day to win

476
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Speaker 1: the football game. But by and large, there's no doubt

477
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Speaker 1: this defense has really taken a good step forward in

478
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Speaker 1: year number one Undergus Bradley. You play to win the game, holloa, right.

479
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Speaker 1: And that's why it goes back to what I said earlier,

480
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Speaker 1: the two ten point leads that you let slip away

481
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Speaker 1: in these last two home games. That's what really hurts

482
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: is because you thought you did enough to win the game,

483
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: and you had to carry the offense, and you still

484
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: didn't make enough plays in the final ninety seconds, and

485
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: you still come home with heartbreak and a lot of

486
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Speaker 1: inks thinking about what could have been record wise. All Right,

487
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: the last one Thanksgiving? Filling the blank lera. The offensive

488
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: line needs a side of blank on Turkey Day to

489
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: open up larger lanes in the running game going forward. Discipline, yep,

490
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Speaker 1: don't give up sacks, don't get penalties that just do

491
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Speaker 1: your job. Just execute. That's it. Got a lot of

492
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Speaker 1: pretty good d lines. The cults are gonna face down

493
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Speaker 1: the stretch, whether it's the Steelers like I was just

494
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Speaker 1: talking about, Dallas Cowboys have Michael Parsons, who might be

495
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Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the NFL. Um you know,

496
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings and Darius Smith is having a really

497
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: good year over there. It's it's going to be a

498
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Speaker 1: challenge for these guys down the stretch. But I think

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Speaker 1: what what I want to see is I want to

500
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Speaker 1: see growth out of Bernard Ryman and Will Fries down

501
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Speaker 1: the stretch. I mean those dudes, the guys they were

502
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Speaker 1: going up against on the Eagles, like Brandon Graham has

503
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: been playing football since before Bernard Ryman ever set foot

504
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Speaker 1: in America or the NFL, and then Fletcher Cox he

505
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Speaker 1: also debuted in two thousand and ten, and he's going

506
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Speaker 1: head up against Will Fries and Lynvill Joseph and Nadamaican

507
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: Sue who just step in and look like wreckers on

508
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Speaker 1: that Eagles D line. They've also been in the league

509
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Speaker 1: for over a decade. Those veterans, you know, they they

510
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: want some reps against the Colts young guys. I think

511
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Speaker 1: you want to see improvement from Ryman and Fries as

512
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Speaker 1: the season goes on. And I think Jeff Saturday brings

513
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Speaker 1: a really good perspective to it where he's not gonna

514
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Speaker 1: reflexively be like, you know, get him on the bench,

515
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Speaker 1: like I think he understands the growth mindset that young

516
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen need to have. I think he sees that

517
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Speaker 1: out of those two guys, I think what you know,

518
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Speaker 1: Bernard Rayman Lairy. Did you have a chance to talk

519
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Speaker 1: to Bernard after the game Sunday? Bernie was great talking

520
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Speaker 1: about you know, this is you know, he if he

521
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Speaker 1: gets beat on a play, he's not hanging his head

522
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Speaker 1: because of himself. He's got to move on to the

523
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: next play because it's all about the team. It's not

524
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: about him. His mindset is so good. He's he's such

525
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: a competitor out there. I think he's got what it takes.

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Speaker 1: You just want to see that consistency go, you know,

527
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Speaker 1: grow as you're going to see with a lot of

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Speaker 1: rookies in that spot. You know, I think that's kind

529
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Speaker 1: of what I'm looking for over these last six games.

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Speaker 1: There you go, that's some Thanksgiving recipes right there. Well done.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's put the offensive line in a brine.

532
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: Let's go marinate them. They're fine, they'll they'll be great

533
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: next years. Give them time to soak. All right, let's

534
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Speaker 1: talk about this game Colts and Eagles from a different perspective,

535
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: asked promise joining us now, ESPN NFL insider Dan Graziano.

536
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: We got him on the horn right now. He was

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Speaker 1: on the call on Sunday for Colts and Eagles on

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Speaker 1: ESPN Radio. Dan, thanks for the time today. How are

539
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: you great? How are you met? We're doing great, doing great.

540
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: I really appreciate the time. And no, it's busy. I

541
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: know you've got a lot going on before the holiday

542
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. Great game between the Colts and Eagles. Obviously

543
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: disappointing from a from a Colts perspective, But after seeing

544
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: the Colts up close and in person, Dan, what did

545
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: you make of them on the field? Where are you

546
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: with this team after eleven games? It's certainly been a

547
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: very up and down season for the Colts in Indianapolis. Well,

548
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: I think the defense is obviously legit, and then this

549
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: is not like they're hand ringing in Philadelphia about it.

550
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Speaker 1: If the offense going to be okay, and I think

551
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, people forget the perspective

552
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: of the other side gets paid too, and that Colts

553
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: defense has made a lot of offenses look bad this year,

554
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: and I think they'll continue to do that, which is

555
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: really impressive, by the way, considering they're probably without the

556
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: best player in Shack Leonard. Right, it has been for

557
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: almost the entire season. So good for them, and I

558
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: think they'll keep them in games. The question is, you know,

559
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: is on the offensive side of the ball and are

560
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: they going to be able to score consistently? And you know,

561
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Sunday was one of those games where you're like, all right,

562
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: well they got seventeen and then we'll just hang on

563
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: or sixteen, sorry, hang on, you know, and hope that

564
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: the defense can hold them off. That's a tough way

565
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: to live week in week out in the twenty twenty

566
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Speaker 1: two NFL. And unless they can find something more productive

567
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: and more consistent on offense, then I think it's going

568
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: to be like that for most of the year. I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: you know, I think they went in coming off a

570
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Speaker 1: week where Washington ran the ball on Philadelphia thinking they'd

571
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Speaker 1: be able to do that, and they had success on

572
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: the first drive, but then they kind of didn't have

573
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Speaker 1: success after that. So Philadelphia made some adjustments. They obviously

574
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Speaker 1: added some key pieces in the middle of the defensive

575
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: line and during the week, and I think that helped.

576
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're gonna have to dance to figure out

577
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Speaker 1: something on offense, and frankly, I mean that that should

578
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: be their biggest challenge because there's no offense to anybody

579
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: still in the building. But I mean the two highest

580
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: ranking offensive coaches from the start of the year are

581
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: no longer there, right, So like, ye have people putting

582
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: this thing together that don't have a lot of experience

583
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: doing it, and I think it'll be it'll continue to

584
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: be a challenge. Dan. I saw you in Foxborough. We

585
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: chatted briefly before we left Gillette Stadium, and then catch

586
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: on the sidelines at Lucas Oil Stadium for the game

587
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Munst Philly. No offense, but I'm not sure I want

588
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: to see you anymore this year because the outcome is

589
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: not optimal. I kind of like in it too. If

590
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: Jim Cantrey from the Weather Channel shows up in your town,

591
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, doom is happening, like there is some sort

592
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: of natural disaster that is our Graciano. Well, I'll say this,

593
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: every every game I've been to this year, someone has

594
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: lost that fair point. It really is about your perspective. Look,

595
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's fun, I mean, but the feeling around

596
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: the team is than it was after mean the Foxboro Yeah,

597
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: that was a low point, right, I Mean, obviously it's

598
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: a low point. The head coach got fired the next

599
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: day that that's not a stating yabby, but I mean

600
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: they cut over fourteen on third down. I mean, they

601
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. So I think, you know, with Matt

602
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: Ryan back in there and you know, Jonathan Taylor healthy,

603
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's there's reasons to point to,

604
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, for Hope. I mean, they played the best

605
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: team in the league, recod wise, and held him off

606
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: until the final minute and a half. That's that's not nothing, right,

607
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: So that that gives you something to build on. And

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Speaker 1: I think you know, I you guys know, I worked

609
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: with Jeff Saturday for a number of years. I mean

610
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: we're still close. So it texted with him after the

611
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: game that it was good to see him, and you know,

612
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: I think he felt like they had that thing and

613
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: they need to figure out how to finish those games

614
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: and put those games away. And that's that's a better

615
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: place to be than can't convert a third down, which

616
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Speaker 1: is where they were a couple weeks earlier. You mentioned

617
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Speaker 1: Jeff and the obvious impact that he had. You saw

618
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Speaker 1: that he injected something in this team going into Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: That being said, with the offensive production they have had,

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Speaker 1: or have lacked. Maybe you might be a better way

621
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Speaker 1: to describe it. How tall is the task for Jeff

622
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Speaker 1: moving forward? What is feasible for him to be able

623
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Speaker 1: to do now with very limited time remaining on the

624
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: season and some really tall tasks ahead of them when

625
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: you look at the schedule. Yeah, and I mean it's significant.

626
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: And I think he goes in eyes open. I mean

627
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: he knows that he knows the situation. He's been around

628
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: the team, he knows, you know, the people in that

629
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: organization very well. He knows he wasn't taken over you know,

630
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs in the middle of the season

631
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: right like this. This is a team that has struggled

632
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: and has put himself behind the eight ball. So I mean,

633
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: they'll do what they can. I think he has showed

634
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: us in the first couple of weeks that he can

635
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: get a team prepared to play a game. Great. That's encouraging,

636
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: and we'll see. I mean the matchups are going to

637
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: be tough, and there are gonna be weeks where they

638
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Speaker 1: are outmatched offensively that just because of the fact that

639
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Speaker 1: they haven't put it together on offense for whatever reason.

640
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Speaker 1: But you know, he's steal one here and there. You

641
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Speaker 1: take advantage of a team that's in even worse shape

642
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Speaker 1: as they did in Vegas a couple of weeks ago,

643
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Speaker 1: and you might be able to hang in this thing.

644
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Seven teams from each conference make the playoffs. It's yogi, Barrett.

645
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: It's not over till it's over. They got a lot

646
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: of work to do, and I think they know that,

647
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: and the odds are certainly against them. But yeah, I think.

648
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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are around there, like I mean,

649
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Speaker 1: it seems from the outside like something has woken up

650
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Speaker 1: there the last couple of weeks, which often happens when

651
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Speaker 1: coaches gets fired. Unfortunately for that coach that it takes that,

652
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Speaker 1: but it does seem like there's a little bit of

653
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Speaker 1: a different energy. That's Dan Grasiano, ESPN NFL Insider with us. Danny,

654
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Speaker 1: you just talked about your relationship with with Jeff, you know,

655
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Speaker 1: working at ESPN, and I mean, there's no denying he's

656
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: just an unbelievable guy. He's a great leader. He's just

657
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Speaker 1: got this great personality about him. You certainly had to

658
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Speaker 1: compartmentalize your feelings and covering that story from a personal standpoint,

659
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Speaker 1: but also from a professional standpoint. Were you surprised, as

660
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Speaker 1: most were, without outside the box hiring, and how do

661
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Speaker 1: you see this working out in the end after this

662
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Speaker 1: eight game trial run with Jeff Saturday as the interim

663
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Speaker 1: coach here with the Colts. Yeah, obviously I was very surprised.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming. And whether whether Jeff did

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Speaker 1: or not, you know, if he did, then he kept

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Speaker 1: it close to the vest. But it's not hard for

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Speaker 1: me to compartmentalize because I mean, Jeff knows exactly what

668
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: my job is. Right. If he hears me being critical,

669
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Speaker 1: he knows where that's coming from, right, and he sat

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Speaker 1: next to me. Well, I've done it to others, So

671
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's you know, the issues

672
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Speaker 1: that have been raised by people outside about the hiring,

673
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Speaker 1: and you know, do owners hire their buddies and not

674
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Speaker 1: you know, diversify the list of candidates. These are all

675
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Speaker 1: legitimate questions and legitimate discussions that are being had and

676
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Speaker 1: should be had. It's an interim higher, right, Like at

677
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Speaker 1: the end of the season, they're going to have to

678
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Speaker 1: go through a process. Even if the owner wants to

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Speaker 1: keep Jeff as the head coach, which we have no idea,

680
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Speaker 1: it's going to depend on whether Jeff would want to

681
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Speaker 1: do it, how the rest of the season goes, et cetera,

682
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Speaker 1: et cetera. Even if that's the case, he still has

683
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Speaker 1: to go through a real interview process and bring other

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Speaker 1: people in. So, you know, if that process happens and

685
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Speaker 1: the end result is one that feels fishy to people,

686
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: then fair enough. But a mid stream, you know, week

687
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Speaker 1: nine change of head coach, I think it's you know,

688
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: we wanted somebody in there to stabilize things, and it

689
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Speaker 1: looks early on as if that has happened. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't have the issue with it as

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Speaker 1: an interim higher. I think if it were a full

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Speaker 1: time higher in the offseason and those questions got raised,

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Speaker 1: I think those would be I think those would be

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Speaker 1: things that'd be you know, that they'd have to answer for.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned against the Eagles how well the defense played,

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Speaker 1: I mean all the way up until the final what

697
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Speaker 1: ninety seconds of the game. Philadelphia had a streak of

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Speaker 1: games with at least twenty points, the longest active streak

699
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Speaker 1: in the NFL with fourteen. For the Indianapolis defense to

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Speaker 1: hold them to seventeen points and to have had such

701
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Speaker 1: consistent production that they've had throughout the majority of the season.

702
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Speaker 1: When you look back to the Kansas City game in particular,

703
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Speaker 1: and some of the outings that they've had since, where

704
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Speaker 1: have you been most impressed with what Gus Bradley has

705
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: done with this defense? And some of the new pieces

706
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: that were brought in this year were well familiar with

707
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Unique and Goakway and Stephan Gilmour across the league, but

708
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Speaker 1: in particular how Gus has done with that system. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Gus Bradley's inexperienced defensive coordinators have success

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Speaker 1: a lot of places, Like it's not surprising to me

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Speaker 1: that he's got them playing well. And you mentioned those players,

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Speaker 1: you know, Deforres Buckner, Grover Stewart. I mean these are

713
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Speaker 1: big time, you know, like defensive linemen that are that

714
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Speaker 1: are a difficult task for anyone to handle. So he's

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Speaker 1: got the ingredients and he's got the experience, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that they have a good defense. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's to his credit and the credit of the other

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Speaker 1: players that they're able to be this good without Leonard,

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Speaker 1: who has been such a key part of what they've

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Speaker 1: done on defense for so many years. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not surprised. I think it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's definitely. You know, going into the season, it look

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Speaker 1: like it ought to be a strength of their team,

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Speaker 1: and it has played out that way. Unfortunately, the issues

725
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball have cost them

726
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: some games. And with Shack Leonard just had surgery another

727
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: procedure last week, how concerned should the Colts be with

728
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Speaker 1: his availability, his health, his durability moving forward with the

729
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Speaker 1: way twenty twenty two unfolded. Yeah, and how could you

730
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Speaker 1: not be if? I mean, there were issues in twenty

731
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Speaker 1: twenty one with it right at the ending of the year.

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Speaker 1: So I mean you hope that I mean a player

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Speaker 1: he's still young, right, a player that is great. You

734
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Speaker 1: hope that it's a blip, right, and you see you

735
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Speaker 1: see it go either way. It could be somebody overcomes

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Speaker 1: the early career injury issues and has a long, productive career,

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Speaker 1: and you see some players where it wears them down

738
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Speaker 1: and accumulates, and so obviously the hope would be that

739
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Speaker 1: it's the first But if your question is how concerned

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Speaker 1: should they be? I think, yeah, I think it's it's

741
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: definitely a concern because if the nature of this game,

742
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Speaker 1: the nature of the position he plays, the nature of

743
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: the way he plays it certainly lends itself to you know,

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: the goal difficulties right to potential injury to wearing down

745
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: over the course of time. So it's something they're gonna

746
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Speaker 1: have to manage when they get to the offseason, figure

747
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: out what the plan is for his recovery and moving forward.

748
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to They're gonna have to factor all

749
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Speaker 1: of this in and what they can do to try

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Speaker 1: and avoid situations like this in the future. Stan Graziano

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Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Insider, Dan, I know this is you know,

752
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: probably way before I should be asking you this, But

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: since we have you here, I realize that there's six

754
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 1: games to go. But I mean, what do you see

755
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: for the Colts in the off season at quarterback? Can

756
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: they roll it back with Matt Ryan? And how deep

757
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: is this college crop of quarterbacks that might be viable

758
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: for teams to take guys in the first round next spring. Yeah,

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00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: I am probably not the right guy to ask. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand, I haven't really done it. No, I'm not

761
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: being I'm not trying to be smart here. I'm just

762
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: sure don't have the faces I mean, certainly it's a

763
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: topic that comes up, but it's not something I've been

764
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: very focused on. So my understanding for thirty thousands wood

765
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: view is that the perspective around the league is it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a pretty good year to be a team

767
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Speaker 1: that needs to take a quarterback in the first round.

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Speaker 1: So so maybe there's somebody out there, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: that that could solve this problem. That could be that

770
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: could be the Week one starter two years in a row.

771
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: For goodness sake, wouldn't that be nice for a change. Look,

772
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: they have to get off of this wheel. They have to.

773
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean Matt Ryan's contract, you know, could could bring

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00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: him back next year, and if he finishes the season

775
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: strong and wants to come back, then maybe you do

776
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: that and maybe you draft the guy that that can

777
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: sit behind him for a little while. I think everything's

778
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: got to be on the table for Indianapolis a quarterback.

779
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing they need to stop doing,

780
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: and this is you know, again not a critical of

781
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: Chris or of any of the guys they've brought in,

782
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: but like you've got to you've got to stop figuring

783
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: how will this be able to patch it together? We'll

784
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: just get whoever the best option is out there on

785
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: the free agent market of the trade market. At some

786
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: point you got to have a long range plan at

787
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: the position uh and nurture it and and uh and

788
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: build around it. And they just have not been able

789
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Speaker 1: to do that. Now, Dan, I just want to plan

790
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: moving forward. Can you let me know what your travel

791
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: schedule is if any of your assignments include Colts games

792
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: moving forward that we should be aware of. I'll give

793
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: you the rest of it as far as I know.

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00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's get to scoop. I'm gonna be in

795
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: Tennessee on Sunday, and that's what I know. Here you go.

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Speaker 1: I love it. What about Thanksgiving plans? Are you able

797
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: to be home with the family? Clue? Oh yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: be home. Oh my, oh my goodness. My son's coming

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Speaker 1: home from college today. I'm picking him up at the

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00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: airport after shows. I'm very excited. That's great. Where is

801
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: he in school? Yes? He could wash you in Saint

802
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: Louis Ohias. Oh good, that's awesome. You guys get to

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: get some time together. Yeah, yeah, it'll be It'll be great. Love.

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00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving always always my one of my favorite days. Awesome

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00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: We'll enjoy the holiday, enjoy Nashville, and maybe I look

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00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you sometime down the road. Well hopefully

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00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: better times, no doubt, right, yeah, Dan, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for the time, Happy holidays, and best of luck the

809
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: rest of the season. All right, same to you guys.

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00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: Thanks there you go. Dan Graziano from ESPN riding on

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Speaker 1: es ESPN dot com. He's all over the place covering

812
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's on radio, TV. You see him on

813
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Get Up in the Morning on ESPN. Good stuff right there.

814
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: We really appreciate his time. He's really all over the place.

815
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Speaker 1: A short week for everybody with Thanksgiving coming up on Thursday,

816
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: so we appreciate that. We also appreciate the time right

817
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: now from Kaylin Jackson, who is in studio with us.

818
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: The Colts vice chairman and owner is with us to

819
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: talk about the Colts and the upcoming game against the

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00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: Steelers on Monday Night Football, which is also the Kicking

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Speaker 1: the Stigma game for the Colts. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: in depth right now. Kaylin, thanks so much for the

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Speaker 1: time today. How are you. I'm good, I'm excited to

824
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Speaker 1: be here on the pod. I'm on the video and

825
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Speaker 1: the Yeah. Hello, Yeah, fun, I'm excited to be here,

826
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Speaker 1: question back anytime, But in particular, we do want to

827
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Speaker 1: talk about the Kicking the Stigma game. This is the

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Speaker 1: second season we've had a game dedicated to Kicking the Stigma.

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Speaker 1: But this initiative has been years in the making for

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Speaker 1: you and for the entire Ersay family for this organization,

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Speaker 1: and there has been so much excitement, in particular over

832
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: the last few months where we had Beyond the Sidelines,

833
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: the first ever in person event for Kicking the Stigma.

834
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Speaker 1: There have been so many worthy grant recipients. We could

835
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: touch on so many aspects of this, but for you

836
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Speaker 1: watching this grow, where have you seen the greatest impact

837
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Speaker 1: that Kicking the Stigma has had so far? Yeah? I mean,

838
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I think, like you said, we could probably have multiple

839
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Speaker 1: podcasts and so be done talking about all the amazing

840
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: things that have come from this campaign and this initiative,

841
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: and it's something that you know, we've We've done so

842
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: much in the community, but I can honestly say this

843
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: has probably been the most impactful, which I feel like

844
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Speaker 1: is saying a lot. We've had a lot of efforts

845
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Speaker 1: that have made a huge impact on this community that

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Speaker 1: we were so proud of. But this by far has

847
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: hit such a positive nerve in the community, both you know,

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: in the city, in the state, and then nationally. You know,

849
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: I think that it reaches beyond our state, and I

850
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: think the impact I don't even think can be measured.

851
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: I think we talk about that a lot, in the

852
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: sense that you know, I could. I have a binder

853
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: full of emails letters from people. They're sharing their personal

854
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: stories and talking about what this means to them, impact

855
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: this has had on them, their family, their friends, or community,

856
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: and what it means for a sports team to be

857
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: putting their logo on this and caring about this. And

858
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: I think that we thought that it would be impactful,

859
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: but not like this, and in such a you know,

860
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: to have the impact like this means so much to us.

861
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: I think we talk a lot about you know, my

862
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: dad's of your spiritual person, and I think we all

863
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: are as well through him and my mom. And this

864
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: is the life purpose type work that you hope to find.

865
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: And I think that really being able to use our

866
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: own personal family trauma to share it with others is

867
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: a really big part of healing and a big part

868
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: of the mental health. You know, Therapeutic you know, community

869
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: if you will, and a lot of people who who

870
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: go through talks like this will understand what that means.

871
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: So for us to be able to share our story

872
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: in this way is really unique for us as well

873
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: in such a gift. And I think that I've said

874
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: it a lot, but I think I'll say it again,

875
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: is that for the first time, we're telling our story

876
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: instead of the story being told about us, which is

877
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: again a really unique experience for us. But I would

878
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: say that, you know, for us, like I said, this

879
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: is the first time an NFL team has stamped their

880
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: mark on mental health. This is the first time. Last

881
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: year was the first game any NFL team has ever

882
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: dedicated a game to mental health, and so this year

883
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: will be the second year. And our hope is that

884
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: people will see that and join us, because this is

885
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: just too important of a topic to be the only

886
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: ones talking about it. The name kicking the Stigma comes

887
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: from wanting people to treat mental health as health and

888
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: not feel that there's something they should be ashamed of

889
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: by what they are experienced. In having the perspective of

890
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: in the privilege of working with you on producing a

891
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of these pieces, I have been so overwhelmed just

892
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: seeing how many people are willing to talk about it

893
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: and use their voice and use their platform. How encouraged

894
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: have you been, not only by people within this organization,

895
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: across the NFL, across the country, very prominent people who've

896
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: lent their voices, but maybe also just in people who

897
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: are more comfortable in conversations with you or things that

898
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: you've overheard where people are more forthcoming in talking about

899
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: their experiences, and that's truly where we can change the

900
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: trajectory of how people are experiencing this trauma. Yeah, and

901
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we always say thank you

902
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: to every single person who has lent their voice, but

903
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: also thank you to every single person who has sent

904
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: their story and shared. Some of these people are saying,

905
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: I've never told anybody this, and they're telling me they

906
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: don't even know me. But I think that shows you

907
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: the power of seeing someone who you know is not

908
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: going to judge you make someone want to share with you.

909
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: And so I think that that's the power and telling

910
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: your story, And that's what we tell everybody when they're like,

911
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: what can I do? Even if you can't give money,

912
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: that's what you can do. You can be open, you

913
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: can be show your vulnerability if you're comfortable, because it

914
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: is a strength and it shows someone It takes strength

915
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: to speak up, and it takes strength to make a

916
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: wave if you will, and to be outside the norm

917
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: or the box. And people don't expect you to share

918
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: those things, but it matters. And I think that someone,

919
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, for our whole lives, we've been a pretty

920
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: open family, you know, with our friends or anyone we meet,

921
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: we're just kind of an open book. And I think

922
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: forever we people share stuff with us, they tell us things,

923
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's because we don't even notice it,

924
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: because it's just how we are. But it's because of that.

925
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: And I think that seeing that there is no judgment

926
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: makes you feel safe, and I think that's what we're

927
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: trying to create more of. You know, my dad talks

928
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot about if someone has cancer, you don't judge

929
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: them for having cancer. You know, it's not their fault,

930
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: and there's no difference here. These are diseases, are illnesses

931
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: that are not anyone's fault. And you know, I always say,

932
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: if anyone's listening, remember that it's not your fault and

933
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: that we see you and we know that. And I

934
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: think the conversation is changing. We have a lot of

935
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: work to do still, but I think that we're definitely

936
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: headed in the right direction. And I think, like you mentioned,

937
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: the wonderful grant recipients we have about thirty eight now

938
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: to date over two years of awarding our grant are

939
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: keating the stigma grant and seeing those organizations and the

940
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: people that work in those and the people that are truly,

941
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: in my mind, the real heroes and the people that

942
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: are the boots on the ground and really you know,

943
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: getting their hands dirty, if you will, and helping people

944
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: every day. Those people give me hope. You know. That's

945
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: what makes me want to keep going. And there are

946
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: good people out there, and there are people that understand.

947
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: And so the more we can shine a light on

948
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: something or you know, put our horseshoe on something, or

949
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: get someone who wouldn't typically write an article about mental

950
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: health but they do because we're involved in it. That's

951
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff and the impact that we're able

952
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: to have. And we hope that other teams in the NFL,

953
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: the NFL and other leagues even take notice and see

954
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: the impact and see the impact that they can have

955
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: by using their platform and using you know, their notoriety

956
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: in such a positive way. And that is not to

957
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: say that they so many of them don't do that

958
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: already in so many different areas. But I think this

959
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: is just such a taboo topic for so long. I

960
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: hope that we make them look up and think, Okay,

961
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: this is okay to talk about it. You know, come

962
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: join us. You wouldn't be alone. We started this and

963
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: it's safe, you know, because I think, I mean, look

964
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: at us, and we look at us in our family

965
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: and our story. Like I said, everyone knows very publicly

966
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: that my dad has struggled with the substance used disorder

967
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: and is thankfully in recovery and doing really well. But

968
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: if we can stand up and talk about it, and

969
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: for so long it felt like something we should avoid

970
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: and maybe we should not shine light on it because

971
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: it might make people more judgmental of our past. If

972
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: we can do it, then you can do it. And

973
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: I think that that's what a lot of our players

974
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: are seeing two when they are sharing their story. To them,

975
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: it may just seem like no one's going to care

976
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: about this, or you know, it's just you know, yeah,

977
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: I struggled with something at some point, but then they

978
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: see just by sharing a minute or two minutes of

979
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: what happened to them, that literally is saving someone's life

980
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: and they have come up and told them so and

981
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: so to feel that impact is huge and you can't

982
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: describe that feeling. And I know that it has changed

983
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot of the way people look at things. Colts

984
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Vice Chairman and owner Kaylin Jackson is with us here

985
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: in the Colts Radio studio talking about the upcoming game

986
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and of

987
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: course kicking the Stigma. Kaylin, how have you seen Kicking

988
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: the stigma grow in such a short amount of time? Right?

989
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean you started this in twenty twenty. The program

990
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: has raised more than seventeen million dollars to expand treatment

991
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: and research and raise awareness all over the country. Seventeen

992
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: million dollars. I mean, that's that's huge. How have you

993
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: been able to do that and how have you seen

994
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: that money really make a difference? Yeah, and so I'll

995
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: correct you just a work PC. It's we've committed over

996
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: seventeen million, but still it's a big number, and it's

997
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: it's all going toward whether it's awareness pieces or um

998
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, equital access to resources. These the grant recipients,

999
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, there's a long list or it's just personal

1000
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: donations from my dad, um to you know, their variety

1001
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: of ones that are very publicized, like a million to

1002
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: U Health Addiction Center and also you know, a million

1003
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: to create a new addiction center in Carmel. There's a

1004
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: bunch that have been given. I could again, we could

1005
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: stay here all night and talk about all the oneful organizations,

1006
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: but I think UM the PSAs are also a big

1007
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: piece and I think that they've been super impactful because

1008
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I think if you look way back when we started this,

1009
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: we had talked about this being our main initiative back

1010
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: in the summer and spring of twenty nineteen, so we

1011
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: knew we wanted to I'm sorry, of twenty twenty, and

1012
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: so we knew we wanted to head that way. You know,

1013
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: COVID hit, we couldn't do exactly what we wanted, and

1014
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: so we kind of had to shift gears. But I

1015
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: think that was such a unique, perfect kismet timing, if

1016
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: you will, because it helps so many more people needed

1017
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: help during that time, so many people felt more isolated

1018
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: and alone, and I think that really helped springboard this

1019
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: in the sense that more people were at home and

1020
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: solar PSAs and we're looking more for something to do

1021
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: and look at and even looking for help. And so

1022
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: I think that that was a huge thing and we

1023
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: were happy to be able to be that light in

1024
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: that dark time for so many people. But I think

1025
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 1: it's grown so organically, which is why I think it's

1026
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: been so successful. It's because it truly is just people.

1027
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: We just were having organizations, you know, people that have status,

1028
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: whether that be celebrity or just random fans, that we

1029
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: were making connections all over the country and this grew

1030
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: so naturally. And I think I always say too, I

1031
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: think it connected so well because it is coming from

1032
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: such a genuine place and such a place of lived experience.

1033
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: We know what it feels like to feel alone, and

1034
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: we know what it feels like to be misunderstood. But

1035
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: I think for us to looking at if we go

1036
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: back to the game and it being you know, games,

1037
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: the NFL and teams have had such success in making

1038
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: impact in areas, you know, whether that be cancer or

1039
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: military or we name it. And I think this is

1040
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: hopefully going to be that someday. And I think that

1041
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: we're starting that and we hope to be joined, like

1042
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: I said, But so when we started it last year,

1043
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: players were wearing shirts staring warm up and while we're

1044
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: having that again this year, we're excited to say that

1045
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: we'll be having shirts available for purchase in the pro

1046
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: shopping online this year, which is new. We also have

1047
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: a gift with donation opportunity for our Cagan Stigma beings

1048
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: that will also be available, and I think that's such

1049
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing too, because we've had such response from

1050
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: fans asking for that and wanting to wear it, and

1051
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. I mean, yes, it has a

1052
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: horseshoe on it, but it's also talking about mental health.

1053
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: Like who would have thought that that would have been something,

1054
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, even five years ago, that people were wanting

1055
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: to wear around. So if we can have that kind

1056
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: of impact, I think we'll never know. I think, you know,

1057
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: we talk about that a lot too. There's probably thousands

1058
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: of people that this will touch that We'll never have

1059
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: any idea. They won't write the letter, they won't you know,

1060
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: any of that, but it made a difference. And I

1061
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: think we talked about this lot too. I think people

1062
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: feel very overwhelmed by this topic, like how can I help?

1063
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? How do I help

1064
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: my family members? What do I do? Especially if they

1065
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: can't give, you know, not everyone can give you know,

1066
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars and you don't have to do that.

1067
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: And I think, like I said, a big piece of

1068
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: sharing your story, but also sharing the work that we're doing,

1069
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: sharing what resources there are, and just being a part

1070
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: of the conversation is a huge part. And I think

1071
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: everyone knows that one of the biggest problems is the

1072
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: system is broken. But what we always say is that

1073
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we can't fix it. And I'm really

1074
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: proud of our state and of our city, and a

1075
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: lot of the people that are working at the high

1076
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: level on the state are really looking at this very seriously.

1077
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: And I will say the conversations I've had have given

1078
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: me a lot of hope in the sense that our

1079
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: state is really setting us up to be one of

1080
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: the more successful ones and we aren't right now. That's

1081
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: the reality. We are in the top five of all

1082
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: the things you do not want to be in the

1083
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: top five for depression, anxiety, suicide, you name it. But

1084
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: we're headed in the right direction. And I hope that

1085
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: we're a big part of that. Kaylin, you mentioned how

1086
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: one person sharing his or her story can save a life,

1087
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: and I want to go back because this is something

1088
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: that Shack Leonard shared with me at to be on

1089
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: the Sidelines event. But Shack told me a story that

1090
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: when he was at the Ursay Collection concert at Lucas Stadium,

1091
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: there was a security guard or someone who was working

1092
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: at the stadium that day who stopped Shock and said,

1093
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: I was in a really dark place. I was really struggling.

1094
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: I was considering ending my life. I saw your story,

1095
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: I saw what you had said, and that really inspired

1096
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: me and motivated me, and I just want to thank

1097
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: you for that. I'm doing much better now. And he

1098
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: and Shack had a moment and that was just such

1099
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: a testament to how this touches people, and you have

1100
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: no idea how much impact it can have on a person.

1101
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at just the list of guys who

1102
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that we've had conversations with Unique and

1103
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: Gakway to Forrest Buckner, Sam Ellinger, Ben Banigo, Julian Blackman,

1104
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: Quitty Pay guys across this team who have all really

1105
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: welcomed and embraced the opportunity to share their stories and

1106
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: to spread the message. And we have two opportunities coming

1107
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: up Kicking the Stigma game might cause My Cleats, in

1108
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: which Kicking the Stigma will be at the forefront. I

1109
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: know a handful of players who have excitedly joined kicking

1110
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: the Stigma for there might cause my Cleats initiative. That'll

1111
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: be the Dallas game coming up. How do you describe

1112
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: seeing how overwhelming it is for so many guys to

1113
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: wear the shirts where the Cleats do it on game day.

1114
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: Of course they're always you know, representing the last name

1115
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: on the back of their jersey and the horseshoe on

1116
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: the helmet, but now they're also representing kicking the stigma. Now,

1117
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it means so much. I remember last year

1118
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: as the first year where they could have picked it,

1119
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: and there were so many and I remember calling me like,

1120
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: is this are you serious? Like this many did that,

1121
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: And I know that may sound silly to some, but

1122
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: it's like they can pick anything, and there's so many

1123
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: things that touch them. And to know that one they

1124
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: support us in that way and that we've created a

1125
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: culture that you know, we have that relationship with our players.

1126
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: I hope it showcases that, you know, and I hope

1127
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: that they really feel the genuineness behind it for them

1128
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: as well, because we really are focused on the whole player.

1129
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: And I think we pride ourselves and being one of

1130
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: the first to have a clinician on staff, and and

1131
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, our clinician is in fact on the Advisory

1132
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Council for Clinicians of the league, and in fact, all

1133
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: of those programs across the league for clinicians, if every

1134
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: team was based on our program. So that was before

1135
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 1: any of this even started, and so you know, there's

1136
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: been a lot of work behind the scenes before Keegan

1137
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: Stigma was actually an outward facing initiative. But this has

1138
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: always been in our heart, and this has always been

1139
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: something that we cared about, and we are just honestly

1140
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: honored to be able to share this change the world

1141
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: and shout out from the rooftops that this is something

1142
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: to look at and this is something to care about.

1143
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: It's Colts Vice chairman and owner Kaylin Jackson with us.

1144
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: Last one for me, kayly Beans, so gracious with your time.

1145
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: The game itself, Monday Night Football, the first home Monday

1146
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: night game for the Colt since twenty fifteen. It's going

1147
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: to be awesome, right, so fun you know. Of course,

1148
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: like my dad, you know, obviously has made his opinions

1149
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: very clear that we feel like he served this and

1150
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: now it's finally here for our fans. You know, we

1151
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: really care about that and we want that for our

1152
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: fans and for our city. UM. You know, I think

1153
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: people can say since we came here in the eighties,

1154
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, the love that we feel and the ingrainment

1155
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: we have in the community really truly means so much

1156
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: to us. Um. We feel like it's a family and

1157
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: it's a small big town, as we say, UM. And

1158
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: so we're just so happy for our fans be able

1159
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: to have it back, happy for our players. And you

1160
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: know that when I saw that schedule come out, I

1161
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: was like, that's like in the Sigma game as possible,

1162
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the point of prime time.

1163
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: And sure I think that. You know, it's obviously been

1164
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: a really unique season. UM. Never dull moment over here. UM.

1165
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time, I you know,

1166
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time, there's a lot of

1167
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: noise outside this building, UM. And we know who we

1168
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: are and our players know who we are and that

1169
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: does not change no matter what. And what are some

1170
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: things that that fans will see, things that they we'll

1171
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: hear about kicking the stigma, either watching the game or

1172
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: being at the game of the Steelers. So again you

1173
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: will see the players wearing shirts during warm up and

1174
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: we actually had some made for the Steelers as well.

1175
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: And you know, we, like I said, our hope is

1176
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: that other teams and the NFL and even other leagues

1177
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: join us in this mission. So that's an opportunity for

1178
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: that which we're really excited about. This year, we'll have

1179
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: our beanies available with a thirty dollars gift with donation,

1180
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: and some shirts will also be in the pro shop

1181
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: and online. But really a lot of it is about sharing.

1182
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, we hope that people tweet and instagram and

1183
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: talk about this, talk about even don't do that, talk

1184
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: about with your family, talk about with your friends. Look

1185
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: at the resources that we have on our website, look

1186
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: at everything that we have available, look at the organizations

1187
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: that we support, and if you feel so inclined, please

1188
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: support them as well, and just try to help us

1189
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: change this in our community and in the country. One

1190
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: quick thing I have to brag on Kalin and congratulate

1191
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: the entire Ursay family because they were last week the

1192
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: recipient of the highest award that Indiana Sports Corps gives

1193
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: as the Pathfinder Award, certainly because of things like kicking

1194
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: the Stigma, but all of the work that the family

1195
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: has committed yourselves to over many decades here within Central Indiana,

1196
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: really across the state of Indiana. It was an spectacular

1197
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: event and so many people came up to me afterwards

1198
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: to talk about how incredible you are, hung incredible the

1199
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: work is, in particular of kicking the stigma and the

1200
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: incredible impact that has been had. So a big ground

1201
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: of applause and congratulations to Kalin and family on nice

1202
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: and I have to say, you know, thank you to

1203
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: the Sports Corp. But also we genuinely couldn't do what

1204
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: we do without the city and the people that work

1205
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: in the city and the people that were in that room.

1206
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: For example, we have such good partners both with other

1207
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: sports teams and town and other just businesses that enable

1208
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: us to have the impact that we have, and it's

1209
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: truly all about that give and take with the partners

1210
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: in the city. And we feel so grateful to be

1211
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, no doubt. That's Kaylin Jackson with us, vice

1212
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: chairman and owner of the Indianapolis Colts, Colts and Steelers

1213
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: Monday Night. It's also the Kicking the Stigma game. Kaylin,

1214
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. Well, you're welcome anytime.

1215
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: Come back soon. Thank you. I'll be back appreciating continued success.

1216
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And that's Kaylin Jackson with us

1217
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: all Things Kicking the Stigma. Matt Taylor, Lara Overton, JJ

1218
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: Stankovitz is back with us here on the podcast. Time

1219
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: now for all Things Twitter mail bag, JJ, What you got?

1220
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: This comes from our loyal listener, Brian DeWitt at Brian

1221
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: twit eighty six on Twitter. Even after the first loss

1222
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: under Saturday, this team seems to have a different energy

1223
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: about them. Do you see the team keeping this type

1224
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: of energy throughout the rest of the season? And Happy Thanksgiving?

1225
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian, there you go. Happy Thanksgiving to you, sir.

1226
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: I think energy is good like you want to have it.

1227
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: But even Jeff Saturday admitted after the game in Las

1228
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: Vegas that emotion kind of wears off about halfway through

1229
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: the first quarter and then it comes down to execution.

1230
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: And ultimately it it's going to come down to that.

1231
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: It's not going to come down to how much energy

1232
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: the Coals have in practice during the week or to

1233
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: start the game. It's going to come down to can

1234
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 1: they execute throughout the game, just like we've been talking about,

1235
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday has brought a good lever level of energy.

1236
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: You can see, you know, that little boost helping out

1237
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: at certain times. But ultimately, you know, it comes down

1238
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: to can you execute against really good players that you're facing,

1239
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: like you're going to face on Monday night against the Steelers,

1240
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: and can you win those matchups? Can you win your

1241
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: one on one matchups? Can your O line play five

1242
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: is one? Can your quarterback make the correct reads, can

1243
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: you're running back break through the holes? And can you

1244
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: make plays in the red zone when it counts. That's

1245
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: what matters more than energy. I think that you do.

1246
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: You will see this type of energy because I think

1247
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: that's the characteristic of Jeff and what he's going to bring.

1248
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: But you have to have the ability to sustain it

1249
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: and also inject it in different ways when it's a

1250
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: necessary to draw upon it in different situations. You've got

1251
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: a couple of tough situations coming up. You're going to

1252
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: go into Dallas, you know, on a short week. You've

1253
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: got some you know right now, at least some primetime games,

1254
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: some you know, high status opportunities that you have ahead

1255
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: of you. You've got holidays coming up. This is a

1256
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: time where I do think that that energy will be

1257
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: put to the test, because when you have a massive

1258
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: change within a team like the you know, like a

1259
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: head coaching change or personnel changes, those different things, those

1260
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: things are going to naturally invoke energy, but there are

1261
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: going to be different ways that you're going to have

1262
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: to draw upon and find that energy moving forward. And

1263
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: I do think Jeff will be able to do that

1264
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,479
Speaker 1: with this group. All right, let's go to random thought

1265
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: of the week. Steelers are up next Monday night game.

1266
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: The Cults are looking for their first win against the

1267
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers since two thousand and eight. So with that

1268
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: in mind, Larah Overton, what were you doing? Where were

1269
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: you in two thousand and eight? Because Jeff Saturday, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday was the starting center for the Colts the last

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Speaker 1: time the Steelers fell to Indianapolis. I'm not going to lie.

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: I had to dive into the Facebook archives to confirm

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01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: exactly what I was doing. So I was living in

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Speaker 1: southern Indiana and working at w DRB Fox forty one

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: in Louisville. I was a production assistant on the morning

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01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: show and was trying to, you know, carve my teeth

1277
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: in the business and establish myself as a reporter and

1278
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: find a way into an unair position. So I had

1279
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: I thought I needed to appear older and a little

1280
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: more mature. So I chopped my hair into, um, not

1281
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: my favorite haircut. Ever, it was like, we see a picture,

1282
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, that's what Facebook archives

1283
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: are for. So oh yeah, I have this like very

1284
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: bright blonde like angled bob here like I probably like that.

1285
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: I probably need to talk to a manager, you know,

1286
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: right here with this haircut. So why do you why

1287
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: do you not like it? I think it looks I

1288
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: think it looks fine. Oh my god, thanks mate. Uh yeah.

1289
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: So I was like really trying to be taken serious

1290
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: as a professional woman in television, which I obviously would

1291
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: would never ultimately become. You thought that made you look older. Yeah,

1292
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: it gave me a little credibility or something. Yeah, So

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01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate the hustle though, That's what I was doing.

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01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: I love it. JJ, where were you and you're probably

1295
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: still in college? Right, Oh, here we go. Here's another

1296
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: angle of it, like yeah, yeah, that was the terrible

1297
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: for a podcast, for a non you know, video medium.

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: But yeah it was cut like to my chin length.

1299
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: And and so you can just imagine I'll let you

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01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: paint the picture. Maybe I'll post one. Yeah if you know,

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, right, one of those people know you know.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, I was a sophomore at the

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: University of Missouri, spending a lot of time in the

1304
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: journalism lab because I was cool. It's the coolest. But

1305
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: I was spending my Saturday's watching um a Zoo foo ball. Yeah,

1306
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: of course, quarterbacked by Chase Daniel, defensive coordinator of those

1307
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: Missouri Tigers, who's big letdown. They were number one of

1308
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: the country for a week. My freshman year in two

1309
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: thousand and seven went into two thousand and eight with

1310
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 1: a lot of guys returning, Chase Daniel, Jeremy Mack. Wasn't

1311
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: Kansas really good back then? We're not. Yeah, they were,

1312
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: Matt and oh no, really just a pointy because this weekend,

1313
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm honestly trying not to be that guy. Because the

1314
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: two worst memories I haven't was that the same year.

1315
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: That was two thousand and seven where he beat Kansas.

1316
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: But the one of the worst memories I have in

1317
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: college is two thousand and eight Thanksgiving. I go to

1318
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium to watch Missoo Kansas at the end of

1319
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: the year. Massoo is wearing these just but ugly gold jerseys.

1320
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: They were terrible, and Chase Daniel it's his last game,

1321
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: last regular season game, it's against Kansas, and it's snowing

1322
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead Stadium. We are miserable in the stands and

1323
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: Kansas wins the game. I'll never forget Todd reesing through

1324
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: a pass to some guy named Carrie Meyer in the

1325
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: end zone or no, I don't know. He's probably in

1326
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: finance or something, and he's probably doing well right in

1327
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: front of me. And it's a two hour drive from

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01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: Kansaity back to Columbia, and I didn't warm up until

1329
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: the end of the drive. Oh, I've been there. And

1330
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: then the worst memory I had was no Dominican sue

1331
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: kind of like ruined Blaine Gabbett's career on a Thursday

1332
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: night game in two thousand and nine. And that's how

1333
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: long he's been around. And that's how long the Dominican

1334
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: Sue has been at the front of my coaches. Still

1335
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: getting it done yep. For the Philadelphia Eagles now. In

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01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, I was working at a country

1337
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: music station in Newcastle, Indiana. Love it. I was working

1338
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: weekends Saturday to Sunday. Saturday and Sunday, I would work

1339
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: from My shift started at like four o'clock and I'd

1340
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: go until eight o'clock and I basically did whatever I wanted.

1341
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: I played whatever I wanted. It was a new I mean,

1342
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: it's a typical top forty if you will, country music station.

1343
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: But I played whatever I wanted and no one cared.

1344
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: I never got a phone call. Like I was playing

1345
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: Merle Haggard and Marshall Talk and Leonard skinnerd and Johnny

1346
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: Cash and no one said a word to me. And

1347
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: it was awesome. Because I hate new country music. I

1348
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: love the old stuff. I would take phone calls, I

1349
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: would take requests. So I did that. On the weekends,

1350
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: I was doing high school football. I was traveling with

1351
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: the IU women's volleyball team around the Big Ten and

1352
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: called their match matches. So I did a bunch of

1353
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: like part time stuff. Two thousand and eight honestly is

1354
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: one of the best years just in terms of fun,

1355
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: in entertainment and enjoyment. You know, I was with my

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: h now wife for about a year and a half

1357
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: at that point, so we were kind of still dating

1358
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: and it was fresh and new and fun. We were

1359
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: going out. So two thousand and eight is a is

1360
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: a fond memory for me year wise growing up. So

1361
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: hopefully the Colts can get a win against the Steelers

1362
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand and eight. Larah,

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01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: will you be recalling two thousand and eight on three

1364
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: sixty this week or do you have other plans? Well,

1365
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: thank god my hair has moved past two thousand and eight.

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: On this show, we have Coach Saturday in studio. We

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: have Yunique in Goakway as well, incredible and then also

1368
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: a piece on horseshoe helpings. The Colts and all the

1369
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: players and their many partners are making sure that thousands

1370
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: of families across central Indiana have a Thanksgiving meal, so

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01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: they are distributing those meals right now at Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 1: We will have a recap of that incredible as three sixties.

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: So I did the morning shift at Horseshoe Helpings and

1374
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: I was out there slinging spuds, picking up fifty pound

1375
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: fifty pound bags of potatoes. Invite you home to cook

1376
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: their turkey. I would yeah, they should. I would like

1377
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: to point out at Horseshoe Helpings that normal people were

1378
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: loading up cars holding two gallons of milk, one in

1379
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: each hand. Bernard Ryman can hold four gallons of milk

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: in his two hands. It was unbelievable. I was like,

1381
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: if I tried to do that, my fingers would fall off.

1382
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: And he's doing it like it's absolutely nothing. Fantastic. Shout

1383
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: out to Bernard Ryman. Cars a lot faster, Yeah, yeah,

1384
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: holding four gallons a time for earliest milkman you've ever seen. JJ,

1385
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: What are you writing about this week? So I don't

1386
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to get to it this week

1387
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: or next. With it being around the holiday, you know, Thanksgiving.

1388
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to hose downcolts dot Com too much.

1389
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, folks spending time with their families and watch it.

1390
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: Please it down. They're they're watching USA England on Friday.

1391
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to you know, take away

1392
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: from that. But uh, next at some point. In the

1393
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: next call it week and a half, I am going

1394
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: to write what I think is going to be my

1395
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: favorite story I've ever written for the Colts. I went

1396
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: around the locker room starting on Friday, and I started

1397
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: asking players, all right, if football didn't exist as a sport,

1398
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: you're a great athlete, what sport are you playing? Okay?

1399
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: I have got some fascinating responses. Are you running the gamut? There?

1400
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm running the gamut in a way that I did

1401
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: not expects. Got basketball, Yeah, I got tennis from a player.

1402
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: I got golf from a player, and it's not the

1403
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: player you would expect. Not Matt Ryan. It was not

1404
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan had a different answer to which

1405
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: I pushed back and I was like, dude, you're a

1406
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: scratch golfer. He was like, ah, yeah, but you know,

1407
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: being a pro golfer is different than being a scratch golfer.

1408
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: I was, You're just being bodiced, like Matt Ryan's the

1409
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: best golfer on the team. Uh yeah Yeah. Got some

1410
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: really good stuff from Paris Campbell on what he would

1411
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: be and I'm gonna go try to do a little

1412
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: more surveying this week and then run it next week

1413
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: because and it all started because ESPN ran this just

1414
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: like awful graphic of like, imagine if this was the

1415
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: US soccer team and it was like all the best

1416
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: athletes in America. It was like Mike Trout, Odell Beckham, Junior,

1417
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Kane, Patrick Mahomes, And it's just like, what if

1418
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: this team played in the World Cup, they would lose

1419
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: ten to nothing? Yeah there wait, there was a tweet

1420
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: that I saw yesterday. There was like Wales, Whales, just

1421
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: better be happy we didn't send Derek Henry over And

1422
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious. Can't rationally talk about what

1423
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: happened in the US match. I don't know what happened,

1424
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: but yeah, I can't. I can't do it. I can't

1425
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: do it. It It was too much. Let's go watch the highlights,

1426
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: let's go catch up. I have no idea either. Well,

1427
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out coming up. I think the world

1428
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: Why why is the World Cup in November not summer?

1429
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: Give me? Give me like the two sentences. You do

1430
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: you really want to get in this? Yeah? How? How

1431
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: how geopolitical do you want to get with this? Give

1432
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: me the elevator? As there were bribes involved to get

1433
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: the World Cup to the country that is hosting it, okay,

1434
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: and that country is quite hot in the summer. If

1435
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: you've ever been to the Middle East, it gets quite hot,

1436
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: so hot that you can't hold a summer tournament, so

1437
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: you have to move it to November December because it's cool.

1438
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: It's cool enough outside to play soccer for ninety minutes

1439
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: in that country. And that was more than two sentences, sorry,

1440
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: but it was well. It was a ram with sentence.

1441
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: A lot of commas, A lot of commas, a lot

1442
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: of a lot of m dashes. I love a good

1443
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: m dash. Here you go. We're loaded up on audio

1444
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: as always, Colts Round Table Live Jeff Saturday last Night

1445
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: on Monday discusses the close loss to the Eagles. We've

1446
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: got daily updates tonight and Wednesday. We're off on Thursday,

1447
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: obviously because of Thanksgiving. Insight Football is back this week

1448
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: the Blueprints from Rick to break down the Steelers Know

1449
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: Your Foe. This week our guest there is Brooke Pryor,

1450
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: who covers the Steelers for ESPN, and then on Friday

1451
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: myself in for JMV because he's out for the long weekend.

1452
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll have Colt Tappy Hour for you on ninety three

1453
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: five and one oh seven five. The fan Instant Reaction

1454
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: is going to drop on probably Tuesday morning, JJ with

1455
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: yourself and Bill Brooks after the Monday night game against

1456
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Guys, have a fantastic rest of the week,

1457
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: a fantastic Thanksgiving coming up. If you guys are traveling,

1458
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: be safe, so guys appreciate the time and Lara, enjoy

1459
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: your sides. Seers to that, enjoy all of your sides

1460
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: and leaves in Turkey for JJ because he'll Brian it

1461
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: for you. For JJ. Lara, I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for

1462
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: listening everybody to the Official Colts Podcast, brought to you

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01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: by a wind that We'll do it again next week

1464
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: following Colts and Steelers on Prime Time. Have a great Thanksgiving.

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01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.