WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 080622 What are the Repercussions of Police Misconduct? (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>And now bring my mic back. You're like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you're just tuning into civicxcite for I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Ramsey's.

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<v Speaker 3>time for Magnie because she'd be knowing indeed, and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Still got more show for you to stick around for.

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<v Speaker 1>So do just that. We're gonna be talking about, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the repercussions for police, whether or not they have them,

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<v Speaker 1>and what they look like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry every time you say something like that last

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds pretty funny, because but listen, if.

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<v Speaker 1>Police get to be if if we are people, we

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<v Speaker 1>make mistakes, police are people, they make mistakes, we get

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<v Speaker 1>held accountable, do they? We're gonna talk about that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>to that part of the show. But first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>do cops have repercussions or nah? That's how it was written.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, so I'll do a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>reading before we start breaking this down. Versus comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post. Police think they can get away with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because they usually do. That's the title. That crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Only a tiny percentage of complaints against police

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<v Speaker 1>are acted on. Research conducted with the journalism organization The

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<v Speaker 1>Invisible Institute suggests that ignoring complaints, even multiple complaints about

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<v Speaker 1>one officer, is not the exception, but the norm in

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<v Speaker 1>police departments. I don't want to pause real quick. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that shows how easy it is for people

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<v Speaker 1>to not really think police are the greatest. I get

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<v Speaker 1>that there's you know, some bad apples. Sure most police

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<v Speaker 1>are decent folk, sure, right, But to know that the

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<v Speaker 1>framework doesn't really prioritize complaints about police misconduct, multiple offenses

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<v Speaker 1>by one officer and so forth, it erodes the faith

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<v Speaker 1>that the community would have in police departments around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's this obviously in a world like today,

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<v Speaker 1>where we share information, we share data. We know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in Louisiana, we know what's happening in Oregon. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>policing is kind of like a catch all. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if it just only happens here or there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we have data that tells the story about the whole country.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a super complex thing to address, though, Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 3>in any instance where there's a body that has authority

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<v Speaker 3>over another, by nature, there's going to be complaints. So

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<v Speaker 3>that makes this very complex. Of course, if they.

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<v Speaker 1>Surveyed our children, they would tell the world we were tyrants.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes me go to bed early, It makes me

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<v Speaker 3>do my homework, he makes me get up early, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. So the same with people that

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<v Speaker 3>work for you, the same with I guess any group

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<v Speaker 3>of people that are somehow put into a hierarchy deficiency

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<v Speaker 3>versus another. I think, by nature of it, they treat

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<v Speaker 3>complaints like, well, yeah, of course they're going to complain

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<v Speaker 3>about the people that pull them over and give them tickets,

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<v Speaker 3>incite them for this and this and that. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think they by nature treat the complaints as cavalier and

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<v Speaker 3>just a part of the job, not as something to

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<v Speaker 3>take seriously, which is ridiculous. But from that vantage point,

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<v Speaker 3>I can understand how a system could put itself in

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<v Speaker 3>a position to just almost ignore the complaints of those

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<v Speaker 3>who are under the thumb of the authoritative you know,

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<v Speaker 3>policing around them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what else is kind of weird about this

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's this sort of weird question that I

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone has to ask themselves at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, because it's just such an obvious gaping fail point,

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<v Speaker 1>failure point in terms of the structure. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>call when the police are the bad guys? Another way

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking about it is, if the police are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones doing the investigating, who investigates the police? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>the police?

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<v Speaker 3>So I can specifically answer that as the nephew of

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<v Speaker 3>former Chief Inspector Harold Scott internal Affairs of the Detroit

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<v Speaker 3>Police Department. Yes, the police investigate the police. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 3>how about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let me make another addition to the first point

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<v Speaker 1>that we made here. So a more troubling component here

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<v Speaker 1>is this is back from the Washington Post reading that

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing. More troubling component is the racial disparity

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<v Speaker 1>in the responses to the complaints. So watch this. Three

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<v Speaker 1>percent one two three, that's it, three percent of complaints

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<v Speaker 1>initiated by black citizens were sustained. That means that if

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<v Speaker 1>you took one hundred black people that took the time

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<v Speaker 1>to complain, if you're going to complain about an officer

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<v Speaker 1>and make it formal the theory, my operating assumption is

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel like you're on some solid ground there

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<v Speaker 1>to formalize your complaint. Right, So if you'll let me

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<v Speaker 1>have that, and in this thought experiment we have here,

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<v Speaker 1>there are one hundred black people that are submitting these,

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<v Speaker 1>again what they feel are valid complaints against these police officers. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>quote protect and serve quote unquote, you know, we pay taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>you work for us. That sort of thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three percent, that's three of those Black people have their

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<v Speaker 1>complaints sustained. Ninety seven of them nothing happens. Okay, hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>Those people are by nature criminals, then of course they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have complaints about the police.

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<v Speaker 1>See and your point out you're being funny, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're pointing out the breakdown, and that the the the

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<v Speaker 1>assumption by the police, and a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>read these statistics, society and large body feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>that that well, you know, you shouldn't run if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything wrong, you don't that's the same attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Now watch this. Twenty one percent of white complaints. White

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<v Speaker 1>complainants had their complaints sustained. So we go from three

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<v Speaker 1>percent if you're black to twenty one percent if you're white,

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<v Speaker 1>seven times as many. Sure, but even the twenty one percent, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's we could have a whole show based on

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<v Speaker 1>that chasm right there. Wow, But even with white people

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<v Speaker 1>complaining about officers, you're still talking approximately eighty twenty in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the officers. Your complain is not valid. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know I don't mean for this to sound the

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<v Speaker 1>way that it's about to sound, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>just power through it. Then when that if there is

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<v Speaker 1>a group of people on this planet, they know how

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<v Speaker 1>to complain. So listen, so listen. What I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say is what I'm trying to say is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think these complaints are just throwing thrown together, that these

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<v Speaker 1>people are just like whatever. No, these people are serious.

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<v Speaker 1>And even then only twenty and they got the right

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they got the right story in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>They got the right grounds to stand on for these

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<v Speaker 1>you know, complaints to be heard. And at least in

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<v Speaker 1>their minds, they think that these complains are valid. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking eighty percent of the time they're showing the

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<v Speaker 1>door as well. Right, So, I think that they're great

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<v Speaker 1>at complaining when it's necessary. They they will switch up

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<v Speaker 1>their whole life to get that complain off. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it happen, so, you know, and it's sometimes that's helpful. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we got friends and they got moms, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll get us back our stuff. You know, they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 1>get the start to return the merchandise or whatever however

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<v Speaker 1>it ends up going. But the long and the short

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<v Speaker 1>of it is that we're we're talking about policing as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to all of us, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously, being black, we're kind of at the we

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<v Speaker 1>get the worst end of it. We always talk we're

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst of the statistics. Everything bad happens to

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<v Speaker 1>us the most most frequently, all the time throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>history of ever Well, at least throughout the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the window ever Well, once upon a time before the

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<v Speaker 1>mass pillage and rape of Africa and her resources, colonization

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<v Speaker 1>and gross colonization, sure of Africa and her resources, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a fair playing field for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>across the world. You don't know this history because you

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<v Speaker 1>got to pay attention to who's teaching you this history.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you're talking about ancient Greece and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you look at the architecture and all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, all that stuff was learned in Africa

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<v Speaker 1>by African teachers. You know, everything everything starts in Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this stuff because obviously I had to know it,

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<v Speaker 1>and doctor Westerberg was my teacher. But I'm not making

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<v Speaker 1>that up. You can, it's actually you can research all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But you know, here we are today having

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with these numbers and in this country at

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<v Speaker 1>least a lot of what we have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>feels very unfair. One of the things that while we're here,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I brought up in a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation more recently was the myth that black men don't

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<v Speaker 1>take care of our children, right, is a very very

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<v Speaker 1>harmful myth that was created in I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties by a Democrat, a liberal Democrat, who was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a reason for uh uh, economic inequality

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<v Speaker 1>black families and non black white families. Right. He's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the basis for this. And what this liberal gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget his name, but what he found out in

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<v Speaker 1>his published report that became sort of the bible when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to dealing with black people in economics in

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<v Speaker 1>this country for many years. What he found was that

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<v Speaker 1>the black family structure was broken, and as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of that, that black people were suffering economic disadvantages. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>His report did not account for let me let me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, uh consult my list here housing this crimination.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not account for environmental racism, It did not

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<v Speaker 1>account for the corrupt criminal justice system. It did not

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<v Speaker 1>count for account for the the lack of teaching and

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<v Speaker 1>the educational inequities. It did not account for improper funding

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<v Speaker 1>of the GI Bill and the promises to Black Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not account for redlining and the disenfranchisement of

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<v Speaker 1>the Black voat. It did not account for drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>the way the drugs have been criminalized in this country

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<v Speaker 1>with respect to black people in particular, And that list

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<v Speaker 1>goes on. You get what I'm trying to say. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy singularly said the reason that black people don't have

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<v Speaker 1>money is because black fathers are not in the homes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that started this myth. Right, first off, it wasn't true,

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<v Speaker 1>but his basis was marriage rates and the birth rates

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<v Speaker 1>of black children. Right, I'm telling you, like you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but our listeners don't know. So some of our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>don't know I've died. Imagine a good chunk, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is a common thing that we have to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>on the talk about on the show and in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But so what happens is if you're black, or you

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<v Speaker 1>know someone black, are brown, someone poor, even you might

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<v Speaker 1>know this story. So let's go back to like the thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>right in the thirties, the Great Depression. Imagine a poor

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<v Speaker 1>family during the Great Depression. How does that family look.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they white? Yes? Why? Because those are the people

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<v Speaker 1>receiving aid from the government. Those are the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the pictures that you remember that jumped into

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<v Speaker 1>your mind when I gave you that example. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how hard black people were hit during that time

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<v Speaker 1>and what resources black people had because the country was

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<v Speaker 1>way more racist back then, so black people was way

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<v Speaker 1>at the back of that line. Right. But how you

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<v Speaker 1>could get a little bit more compassion, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more empathy is if you were a mother, a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was a mother and unmarried, right, So again you

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<v Speaker 1>might know people who operate this way. So what this

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<v Speaker 1>means is that either this mother cannot claim that she

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<v Speaker 1>lives in a house with the children's father, her partner, husband,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, so that goes undocumented, which results in later

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<v Speaker 1>decades these statistics that create this myth that black fathers

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<v Speaker 1>don't exist in our children's lives, because that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>are able to cheat the system in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>what is owed to you by this country despite your blackness,

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<v Speaker 1>to have enough food and enough economic opportunities to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself and your family. Furthermore, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>account for the fact that there is a large migration

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<v Speaker 1>of black people from the South to the north, places

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<v Speaker 1>like Detroit where you're from the automotive industry, and other

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<v Speaker 1>places you know in Chicago and you know, Michigan and

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<v Speaker 1>places like that where black people were able to find

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<v Speaker 1>job opportunities. Right, So this man just decides that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>black fathers are not in their homes, not that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not providing none of this sort of stuff. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's important for there to be more black researchers,

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<v Speaker 1>because they might have known, Okay, well, maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 1>else that we need to look into. Right. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal.

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<v Speaker 3>Diabolical peace and the way that narrative is presented, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not just that they don't account for all of those

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<v Speaker 3>factors that you said, is that they make it out

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<v Speaker 3>to be the choice of the black father to be absent.

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<v Speaker 1>So that so let me go in, let me lean

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<v Speaker 1>into that part. So I've heard it said like this before.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather than fulfilling its promise, this country's promise to black people,

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<v Speaker 1>this country would rather have black people feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>are the source of our own problems. Right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the wrong people to hear that and run

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<v Speaker 1>with it, because everybody has to be responsible for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Every community has a degree of responsibility for the community,

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<v Speaker 1>the culture, etc. Right. But if we're talking about systemic issues,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we have to take everything into consideration. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But this myth about absent black fathers has been so

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<v Speaker 1>influential that even we black people feel like it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not to say it doesn't happen, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen to a degree that is uh unique to

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<v Speaker 1>black people. In other words, white families have absent fathers.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't say with that much grace, though, because it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just that it doesn't happen the way that

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<v Speaker 3>it's depicted. It's actually polarity. Polarity, the polarity of the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite is quite as far the opposite distance as you

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<v Speaker 3>can use as a word for that. The statistics tell

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<v Speaker 3>a story that is the polar opposite of the narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, you tell them.

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<v Speaker 3>The most present, most involved, most involved group of people

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<v Speaker 3>as fathers in this country is the Black American man.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you cite the source of that? I cannot, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can. That comes from the CDC's twenty thirteen study

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<v Speaker 1>based on census data and government funding. Right, so it

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<v Speaker 1>is a government backed report that was done that confirms

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<v Speaker 1>what many people long held to be true, is that

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<v Speaker 1>that couldn't be the case. Black men don't love our children. See.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, one of the things that I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying when I was having a conversation with another friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine of ours, is that anything that has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with African American people, if it doesn't sound right,

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<v Speaker 1>do yourself a favor and remove the word American. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're just dealing with African people. Does it still sound

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<v Speaker 1>the same? In other words, African American men don't raise

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<v Speaker 1>their children. That don't sound right. Take away the American part.

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<v Speaker 1>African men don't raise their children. That don't sound right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what word did we take out? The American word? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So now we have to look at America. What's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in America? Okay? Is America creating a set of

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances or is there something going on in society in America?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are Black people just bad? And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just say Black people are just bad because

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, African men you canse their kids.

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<v Speaker 3>You can say it well, and are they would do

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people that would agree with you, by

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<v Speaker 3>the tens of millions, right, the people who came out

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<v Speaker 3>and droves and shout out to everybody around the country

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<v Speaker 3>who is using their right to vote. I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to say that out loud because it's that time. But

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<v Speaker 3>there are tens of millions of people.

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<v Speaker 4>That that spin that right and that vote on a

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<v Speaker 4>candidate based on the ideology that black people and Mexican

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<v Speaker 4>people and anybody that's not you know, Christian and white

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<v Speaker 4>is bad, criminal by nature.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are plenty of you know, claiming to be

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<v Speaker 3>educated adult people in this country that say things out

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<v Speaker 3>like that out loud and believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the truth is that those people are wrong. Now

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<v Speaker 1>back to police, I want to read this. So this

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<v Speaker 1>one comes from This also comes from the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 1>So patterns demonstrate the larger truth that too often, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of operating as an effective check on police abuses, complaint

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<v Speaker 1>systems served to further disempower poor minority community members. The

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<v Speaker 1>system offers the illusion that the police are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>all residents, and then by repeatedly exciting with officers, the

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<v Speaker 1>systems encourage officers to adopt a mindset that when black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown citizens object to what they're doing, they're almost

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<v Speaker 1>always wrong. That reinforces the officer's sense of untouchability. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I want to add this before we move on. This

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the New York Times. Justices rule, police do

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<v Speaker 1>not have a constitutional duty to protect someone. This comes

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<v Speaker 1>from June two thousand. You know, I don't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to read that. Wow, but that's actual. That's an actual

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<v Speaker 1>court case. I employ you to look it up because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have time to go into that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Justice's rule, police do not have a constitutional duty to

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<v Speaker 1>protect someone. Meaning in Uvalde, kids was getting shot up

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<v Speaker 1>in the classroom, the police are standing outside. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>break the law, I did, you know? Based on what

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<v Speaker 1>these justices say, the police have no duty to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the public. And then before we go, a final thought

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<v Speaker 1>from our show producer to criticize their effectiveness in solving

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>crimes in the aftermath. Further further is the propaganda. It

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<v Speaker 1>assumes that police are acting in the interests of the

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<v Speaker 1>public when there's no precedent that says they have to,

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<v Speaker 1>and oftentimes they're false. Faith in them and moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>we need urgent change. So yeah, please look up that

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<v Speaker 1>that ruling that the police do not have a constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>duty to protection. Now sign for the Way Black History

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<v Speaker 1>Fact sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly Magazine Q our resident

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<v Speaker 1>athletic man, So you can take this one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why Rams just thinks I'm the resident

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<v Speaker 3>expert on sports just because I'm an athlete. Ram just

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<v Speaker 3>knows more than he wants you guys to know. I

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<v Speaker 3>think somebody told him it wasn't cool to be a

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<v Speaker 3>jock once upon a time, so now he runs from

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<v Speaker 3>it like he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Also play football.

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<v Speaker 3>But I won't put his business out there, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>let him keep pretending that he doesn't have an athletic

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<v Speaker 3>bone in his body. The Way Black History Fact, once

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<v Speaker 3>again presented by Hip Hop Weekly Magazine, Our tribute to

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<v Speaker 3>the legend.

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<v Speaker 1>That we lost.

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<v Speaker 3>I had an opportunity to meet the great Bill Russell

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<v Speaker 3>once upon a time at a charity event in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>I had just gotten my first job out of college.

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<v Speaker 3>Out in LA at a charity event for Marcus Allen,

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<v Speaker 3>and Bill Russell was in attendance, and I was in

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<v Speaker 3>all because, as you can imagine, as a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fan, all of my sports heroes were there. So

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<v Speaker 1>rest in peace to one of the greats, Bill Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>He dies at eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics Icon Hall of Famer an eleven time NBA champion,

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Russell died peacefully with his family, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he recently relocated to Not recently, I think he spent

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<v Speaker 3>most of his life after retiring from the NBA actually

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<v Speaker 3>on an island off the coast of Washington, not in

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<v Speaker 3>what you would assume to be the beloved Boston where

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<v Speaker 3>he spent his entire professional career. Bill Russell, the NBA

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<v Speaker 3>great who anchored the Boston Celtics dynasty to eleven championships

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<v Speaker 3>in thirteen years. Such a crazy stat, the last two

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<v Speaker 3>as the first black head coach. So it should be

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<v Speaker 3>noted he was not just the coach but also still

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<v Speaker 3>a player. So the first black head coach at major

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<v Speaker 3>sports while still playing that sport.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Yeah, pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Russell was not just a great athlete, but he

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<v Speaker 3>also marched for civil rights with doctor Martin Luther King Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>His family posted the news on social media, saying he

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<v Speaker 3>died with his wife on Jeanie by his side.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not state the cause of death.

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said in his statement that Russell

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<v Speaker 3>was the greatest champion in all of team sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys might notice that he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Conspicuously left out of the greatest of all time athlete conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the reason why is because no matter

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<v Speaker 3>how you measure that, he so outwighs everyone else that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not even fair. So he's called the greatest champion

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<v Speaker 3>in team sports here because if you match him up

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<v Speaker 3>against anyone else, he's got more championships, his winning percentage

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<v Speaker 3>is higher. He's never lost the do or die game

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<v Speaker 3>ever in twenty one chance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is why you just rattl those staffs.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even written here. Yeah, so you're a sports guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a music guy. Man, let me be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Famer, five time Most Valuable Player, twelve time

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<v Speaker 3>NBA All Star. Russell in nineteen eighty was voted the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest player in NBA history by basketball writers. He remains

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<v Speaker 3>the sport's most prolific winner as a player and archetype

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<v Speaker 3>of selflessness who won with defense and rebounding while leaving

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<v Speaker 3>scoring to his teammates. Often that meant Will Chamberlain, the

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<v Speaker 3>only player of the era who was ever a worthy

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<v Speaker 3>rival for Russell, to be without championships. So he Will Chamberlain,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest athletes of all time, spent a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of his career on the losing end of Bill Russell,

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<v Speaker 3>even though a lot of people may have regarded him

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<v Speaker 3>as a more gifted physical specimen. Russell said that when

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<v Speaker 3>he was growing up in the segregated South and later California,

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<v Speaker 3>his parents instilled in him a calm confidence that allowed

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<v Speaker 3>him to brush off racist taunts. Now, Bill Russell, as

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<v Speaker 3>I told you before, after he retired, left Massachusetts and

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<v Speaker 3>moved as far away from Massachusetts as possible that we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it, and a lot of people would wonder why.

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<v Speaker 3>And you and I have discussed sports fans in Boston,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically while he was winning championships in Boston, right as

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<v Speaker 3>he is the greatest player in the sport for their team.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight championships in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>While away, people broke into his home, dumped out his

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<v Speaker 3>trash cans, and defecated around his house and in his bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let that soak in with you, guys for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>The hometown hero in that same hometown, still not given

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<v Speaker 3>the level of dignity and respect to not break into vandalize,

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<v Speaker 3>and if I need to be more specific, came home

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<v Speaker 3>to human feces around his home and in his bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll continue, I've never been through anything. From my first

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<v Speaker 3>moment of being alive was the notion that my mother

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<v Speaker 3>and father loved me. It was Russell's mother who would

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<v Speaker 3>tell him to disregard comments from those who might see

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<v Speaker 3>him playing in the yard. Whatever they say, good or bad,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know you. They're wrestling with their own demons.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill was the ultimate winner and consummate teammate, and his

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<v Speaker 3>influence on the NBA will be forever felt. Adam Silver

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<v Speaker 3>added and I quote, we send our deepest condolences to

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<v Speaker 3>his wife, Genie, his family, and many friends. His family

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<v Speaker 3>said the arrangements for Russell's memories for his memorial service,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, We'll be announced in the coming days. The

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<v Speaker 3>Celtics often celebrated Bill Russell. Bill Russell would celebrate those

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<v Speaker 3>moments with his family and friends away from the team.

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<v Speaker 3>He played for his teammates and for his coach, not

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<v Speaker 3>for a city that never embraced him.

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<v Speaker 1>I never loved him. I want to add this because

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<v Speaker 1>I have a note here. It says that he was

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<v Speaker 1>at the march on Washington in nineteen sixty three when

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<v Speaker 1>Joster King gave his I Have a Dream speech, and

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<v Speaker 1>he backed Muhammad Ali when the boxer was pilloried. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that word a refusing induction into the military draft. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>To be the biggest, greatest champion of your sport, to

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionize the way the game is played, and to be

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<v Speaker 1>a societal leader all at once seems unthinkable, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>who Bill Russell Russell was and quote, the Boston Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>said in a statement. Twenty eleven, President Barack Obama awarded

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<v Speaker 1>Russell the Medal of Freedom alongside Congressman John Lewis, billionaire

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<v Speaker 1>investor Warren Buffett, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and baseball great

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<v Speaker 1>Stan Mirosol so his activism.

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<v Speaker 3>Also speaking of his activism in his eighties, Bill Russell

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<v Speaker 3>joined Twitter, would you guess the reason why to stand

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<v Speaker 3>in solidarity or to kneel in solidarity with Colin Kaepernick?

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<v Speaker 3>That was Bill Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that I'm glad that you took this one,

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<v Speaker 1>because see, you know a little neat little things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you know what I do want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I think it take any shine away

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<v Speaker 1>from anyone, but I do want to say this, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I did play football in high school. Okay, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's because I read a book and it said

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<v Speaker 1>that like seventy percent of millionaires play team sports or

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<v Speaker 1>something in high school. So I was thinking, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if I play football, and give me a better chance

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<v Speaker 1>of getting this money when I graduate. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason I played, understood, So I'm familiar with how

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<v Speaker 1>the game works. But the people that play I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>there because I was a passionate person. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get some bread and I'm I'm one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty pounds. Still knew I wasn't going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I was just trying to play because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the book said, So you know, yeah, I'm not

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