1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: kicks off right now. 4 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being with us. A lot to dive into. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Right now, as we're talking to you, President Trump is 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: speaking to the nation. He is in the Oval Office, 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: He's doing a sit down with the President of the Philippines, 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: and they're covering a whole range of topics, and that 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: is in real time as I'm speaking to you. Trump 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: right now laying into the Russia hopes as the biggest 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: scandal in history. And we'll bring you some of the 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: key soundbites from this meeting. Also discussion from the president 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: from our president. Right there's the Philippine president, there's President 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Trump sitting side by side, but of more cooperation, military 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: cooperation with the Philippines, and Trump saying we're gonna have 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: more missiles than we've ever had before. Slow missiles, fast missiles, 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: big missiles, small missiles. So we've got that to dive into, 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: and we'll bring you some of it. Hunter Biden, the 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: interview he did is actually getting a lot of attention. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: And now Clay is not the only person that I 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: have heard who thinks that he might see a role 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: for himself in politics. Still, I just want to say 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: I still think this is crazy, but there's a little 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: voice in my head that says, oh my gosh, there's 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: a small chance that Clay actually may be on to 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: something with this one, and I will be the crazy 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: one for having missed it. 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: But we shall see. 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: I want him to run, let me be clear, and 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: I don't think he has any chance to be the nominee. 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying. 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: The only thing that adds up here to me is 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: Hunter thinks he is the savior of his family and 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: that there is actually a demand for him in a 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: way that every other Democrat basically is like, no, no, no, no, 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: we just want to pretend to Biden era never happened. 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: I think Hunter thinks he should run. I think that's 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: what Hunter has got in his head. 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: That would be It would be the craziest thing in 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: American politics in terms of somebody wanting to or deciding 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: to run again since Anthony Wiener, post conviction, oh yeah, 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: post criminal sex crime, decided that he was going to 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: run for the mayor of New York City and then 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: that faded out rather quickly. So the Hunter Biden thing, 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: it is interesting to see Hunter describing the differences between 46 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: crack cocaine and other forms. He is like a chemist. 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: He actually has some real domain knowledge, not about say, 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: international energy agreements where he was being paid by Barisma 49 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: as a consultant. But you know, if the cartels were 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: paying this guy, I would have understood that because he 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: knows a lot about drugs. It's pretty impressive when he 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: breaks it down. We'll bring you some of those of 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: those clips. The whole Hunter thing, though, is I am surprised. 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: I thought the bidens were I thought the bidens were done. 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: But you know one thing, Clay, that I think we 56 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: now all have to be ready for an American politics 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: is that for people, for people who have been in 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: the big game or near the big game in some capacity, 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: they'll never accept that they're done. 60 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: Look at Joe Biden. For people who have just even gotten. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: A taste of what it is to be truly in power, 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: they think that there's always a lane, always a role 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: for them. And I think that Hunter Biden, yes he's 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: a recovering addict and all that, he's just an example 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: an example of that. We've also got just a few 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: other odds and ends to throw in here before we 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: get into some of the Trump stuff, Play Speaker Mike 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: Johnson is gonna shut down the House until September. They're 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: not gonna have a vote on releasing the Epstein files 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: d o J. I believe that the number two at DOJ, 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: or somebody close to the number two is going to 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: possibly have a conversation with Gielen Maxwell, the co conspirator, 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: along with Jeffrey Epstein, who is still alive in custody, 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: So that story is getting some attention. And then Trump 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: all on the late night TV removal of Stephen Colbert. 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: Trump wrote this, Clay, the word is and it's a 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: strong word at that. Jimmy Kimmel is next to go 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: in the untalented Late night sweepstakes, and shortly thereafter Fallon 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: will be gone. These are people with no talent, paid 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: millions of dollars for destroying what used to be great television. 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: Really good to see them go. I hope I played 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: a major part in it. Trump not just defeating them, 83 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: but salting the earth under their feet. 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: Clay, I still can't believe that they've decided to make 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: a martyr out of Stephen Colbert, who's making somewhere between 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty million dollars a year, whose show is 87 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: losing forty million dollars a year, and somehow that he 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: is a martyr because he was fired. I mean, look, 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: if this show was losing any money at all, I 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: would expect that we would get fired. I just would 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: any show that I have ever done in the history 92 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: of my life. 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: We'd be we'd we'd be, we'd be gentle, let go. 94 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: Let go. 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: I have never been on any show to my knowledge, 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: that has has lost money. 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: I've been at media companies that were losing money and 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: everybody starts getting fired. 99 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: So that's not I have That's what I have been. 100 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I have been fired. 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: That's one reason I started out kick and yes, Buck 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: might prefer the euphemism left go but let go, but 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: let go implies that you had an option to continue 104 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: to hold on. 105 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have an option to continue. 106 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: I've pulled the the Indiana Jones running in front of 107 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: the Boulder a few times and just grabbed the hat. 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: But it was like if I didn't leave, the doors 109 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: were closing and they were padlocking them. 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: So I've had that a few times. 111 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: So look, I just anyone who works in media at 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: some point in time, if your product doesn't make money, 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: they find somebody who they think can make money. I 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: can't even imagine having the arrogance to be doing a 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: show that is losing forty million dollars a year, forty 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: million dollars a year, and then to be arguing, Oh, 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: the only reason I'm being fired is because I've been 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: too critical of President Trump. No, you're being fired because 119 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: that forty million dollars that the company is losing on 120 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: your show could be allocated to hire a lot more 121 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: people who could do a lot more profitable work. 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm just I've always been I'm not a big late 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: night guy in general. And the more you learn about 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: how important sleep is now I'm being really boring. The 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: more you realize going to bed earlier is doing yourself 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: a huge favor. Whenever you can, whenever you can. Just saying, 127 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: but Jay Leno, whom I always liked more than Letterman, 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: although I was a casual watcher at best, I mean 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: I saw it, but I was like, I would watch 130 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: it kind of by accident if I was up at night. 131 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: I can't say, but I really never would anyway. Leno 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: producer Ali pulled this Yesterdy because I thought this is true. 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: Leno took a substantial pay cut, Yeah, to keep staff, 134 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: to keep his team around. 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Nothing like that, trust me. 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: If Colbert's agent had something like that to throw out 137 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: there at this point, now is when these stories would 138 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: all come out. Colbert making fifteen million a year, let's 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: call a fifteen million clay while the while the show 140 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: is losing forty mini. He would know the show's losing 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: forty million dollars. It's obscene, obscene greed. And to let 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: people behind the curtains. I don't know how many people 143 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: publicly talked about this. I took a pay cut. You 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: took a pay cut during COVID so that we could 145 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: we have contracts, so that we could avoid having to 146 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: let go people who worked on I did a sports 147 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: talk show at the time you did a political show. 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: We took substantially less. And by the way, so did 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: a lot of our bosses. So did a lot of 150 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: people out there. When times got tough during COVID and 151 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: you didn't know what in the world was going to happen, 152 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: the first thing people do. So I think people understand 153 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: this in some ways, but when people start to feel 154 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 2: like a recession is coming. One of the first things 155 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: that companies do is spend less money on advertising, and 156 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: so it hits what we do faster than a lot 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: of other places. So when COVID happened, which was this 158 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: cataclysm where suddenly everybody's like, hey, we're gonna show there's 159 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: only essential, non essential businesses everything else. We took huge 160 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: pay cuts to maintain in some way the show's ability 161 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: to continue to employ staff. And so you don't get 162 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: to losing forty million dollars, It doesn't happen rapidly. You 163 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: have to work your way up to losing forty million dollars. 164 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: So I would think that pathway towards losing that amount 165 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: of money is been rapid and has been gradual. 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 4: Right. 167 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: In other words, there's lots of time where you could 168 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: have reversed the direction that the ship was headed, so 169 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 3: to speak. Also, why did nobody say, hey, we're spending 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars on this show and we're losing 171 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: I I they spend this is just my guess. I 172 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: bet they spend twenty million total if that on Gutfeld. 173 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: So Gutfeld, which is also in a New York City studio, 174 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: which also has a live audience. Some of you watch 175 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: that on Fox News. I don't know why they didn't 176 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: just say, Hey, why don't we just rent a much 177 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: smaller studio space, have a much smaller live audience, dial 178 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: back the overall expenditures in a way that would allow 179 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: this program to at least break even. I bet that 180 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: they fought back against that idea because it would be 181 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: seen as a as a lack of endorsement of the show. 182 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: But I think that this is likely true. I think 183 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: all late night shows are going to be gone. I 184 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: think Trump is going to ultimately triumph in a way 185 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: that is pretty unbelievable over his harshest critics everywhere at MSNBC, CNN, 186 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: late night television. I think they're all going to lose 187 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: their jobs and Trump's going to be more powerful than ever. 188 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, CNN has been destroyed by Trump. The brand 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: will never recover. The late night hosts I think have 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: been are in process of all being defenestrated from their 191 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: privileged purchase. 192 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Look at you. 193 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm impressed he does what he does, and I 194 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: think that Trump has done a tremendous service for the 195 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: American people just by exposing how many of these media outlets. 196 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: How many of these so called news organizations or even 197 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: so called comedians or comedic enterprises are really just a 198 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: smug propaganda and there's no reason for these things. They're 199 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: not being supported by the marketplace. They're really you know, 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: let's just say it, Clay late night TV sort of 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: turned into the w NBA of the television world. Subsidized ye, yeah, 202 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: subsidized by other actually profitable ventures within the company. 203 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: And for what why? 204 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the analogy. I made that analogy 205 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: yesterday one of our OutKick shows. The WNBA lost forty 206 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: million dollars last year. It's the same amount as Stephen 207 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: Colbert and the protest. The players came out and pay 208 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: us what you owes T shirts. Well, if you got 209 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 3: actually paid what you were owed, as we discussed yesterday, 210 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: you would actually given a pix of teams. 211 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be you sent home money, yeah you You 212 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: would actually no longer have a job if you were 213 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: paid what you were owed, because you were owed nothing 214 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: if you work for the WNBA. But nonetheless, it is 215 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: effectively like a charity. It's a it's a it's a 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: DEI women's sports charity is what the WNBA as a 217 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: pure business venture operates as Now, maybe that's changing now, uh, 218 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: you know, because of some of the visibility that it gets. 219 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: But on the late night TV host these late night comedians, 220 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: this is a major cultural shift. And it also proves 221 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: once again that what the right has been saying for 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: over twenty years, which is they these are there's left 223 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: wing dominance in these media outlets. It's not about the 224 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: profit motive. You know, they used to get away with saying, well, 225 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: this is what the audience wants. It's not about the 226 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: profit mode of a lot of these places. Whether it's 227 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: Hollywood studios you're talking about depends on the movie, or 228 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: you're talking certainly about the news organizations. They are ideologically 229 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: driven first on many of these decisions in many of 230 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: these ways. And you see that with late night comedy. 231 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: And I remember what a successful weapon the Daily Show 232 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: was against the Bush administration. And I did watch the 233 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: Daily Show pretty frequently when I was in college, and 234 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: the Daily Show gave people who didn't want to really 235 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: engage with the facts the ability to think that everybody 236 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: who disagreed with them was an idiot. Well that may 237 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: feel like fun at the time, but it's actually not 238 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: good for discourse. So I think that this is all 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: to the good, and we'll talk more about about some 240 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: of this and also what Trump has had to say 241 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: here about the referral and Russia collusion. Clay, I have 242 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: found an answer, and it's one of the things that 243 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: I offered up here as what would what would they 244 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: actually charge them with? 245 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: We can address that. Oh good, So I went deep 246 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: diving into the criminal files. 247 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: Yes, but it's what I said, which is we're going 248 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: it is not this is the law as the law 249 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: so much as it is due unto others as they 250 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: have done unto you. And that is the approach that 251 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: I think could could That's the only way they could 252 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: find a charger. I'll explain more later. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio 278 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 279 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in So President Trump was just 280 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: talking in the Oval Office with well with the whole nation. 281 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: But he was sitting next to the president of the Philippines, 282 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: and he covered a whole range of topics. Right, this 283 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: is this is the nature of a Trump press conference. 284 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: It's never the message. Staying on message for Trump is 285 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: whatever the heck he feels like in the moment. Talking 286 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: about that is that is on message. When you're dealing 287 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: with Trump, their message is whatever he wants. There's no script, 288 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: there's no roadway ahead. And he covered a lot of things, 289 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: and the media obviously was pushing him a bunch of 290 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: different directions. 291 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: But let's do let's first take a look. 292 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: Here at the focus. 293 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Now. 294 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: This comes after the Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbert 295 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: came out with more information, released new information showing that 296 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: the CIA was well aware that Russia didn't steal the 297 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: election for Trump. Clay shared out this morning on x 298 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: I saw it like two minutes of just people across 299 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: all the Democrat news sites and channels saying that Russia 300 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: hacked the election. And I always thought that was such 301 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: a weasel word to use. What does that mean, hacked 302 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: the election? That what they wanted. What they're saying is 303 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: Russia involved itself in some way, but they want people 304 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: to believe that Russia actually hacked the voting machines, which 305 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: they did not do, and there was never any evidence 306 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: or proof of that whatsoever. But seventy percent of Democrats 307 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: going two years into Trump's first term, you know that 308 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: clearly seventy percent of Democrats believe that Russia actually got 309 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: into the voting machines to help Trump beat Hilly. 310 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: They're so smart with the verbs that they used often, 311 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: because hacked the election can be a broad term of like, oh, well, 312 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: they hacked a few emails. Hacked the election is clearly 313 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: a phrase that is intended to tell you they changed 314 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: the outcome of the election, right, because otherwise, like who cares? 315 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: First of all, we try to hack almost every election 316 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: that takes place in any country in the world that 317 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: we care about. This whole idea that we have clean hands, 318 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: right how in the world. I mean, you could speak 319 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: to this probably, but I always love this, like the 320 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: idea that America just sits back and we have absolutely 321 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 3: no involvement in elections around the world. We probably, to 322 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 3: be fair, are the number one actor involved in elections 323 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: around the world. So this idea that we are clean 324 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: hands here, but yes, of course, our adversaries attempt to 325 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 3: get involved in many different things that we do in 326 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: the country hacked. The election is clearly intended to send 327 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: a message that Trump would have lost but for Russia. 328 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: And that Russia actually actively hacked. Right, it's a little bit. 329 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: You could say someone's biohacking if they, you know, have 330 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: like a snack that's dates in maple syrup or something. 331 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: If you turn on Instagram, everyone's by the way, ninety 332 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: percent of these people, especially if I mean if they're guys, 333 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: ninety percent of these people who are telling you how 334 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: to improve your health and whatever, and I'm somebody who, 335 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: as you know, has gone on a fitness journey for 336 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: a year now and lost about forty pounds, ninety percent 337 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: of them are just taking steroids. 338 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: And lying to you about it. 339 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: Just you know, this is you don't have to or 340 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: some form of enhancement, whether it's you know, elevated levels 341 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: of TRT or whatever. So just whenever you see some 342 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: guy with a six pack, he's like, this is what 343 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: I eat in a day, and you're like, that guy 344 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: looks like Leonidas from the movie three hundred. It's not 345 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: because he had a couple of banana slices in the 346 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: morning or whatever. Or it's not because he had his 347 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, yogurt and yogurt parfait before dinner. It's because 348 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: he's taking stuff. He's not telling you about it. I'd 349 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: say nine out of ten of those guys are doing that. 350 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Put that aside for a second. That's just a free 351 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: that's just a little free at free insight for any 352 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: of you out there who are on Instagram or TikTok 353 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: these days, what would it look like if they were Oh, 354 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: before we get to the charge, is President Trump spoke 355 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: about this here? He is crooked Democrats, Barack Hussein Obama. 356 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 2: He loves to throw in the Hussein part. This has 357 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: cut twenty nine play it. 358 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 6: Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right 359 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 6: there with him, and so was sleeping Joe Biden, and 360 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: so with the rest of them, Cami Clapper, the whole group. 361 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 6: And they tried to rig an election, and they got caught. 362 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 6: And then they did rig the election in twenty twenty. 363 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: And then because I knew I. 364 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 6: Won that election by a lot, I did it a 365 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: third time and I won in a landslide. Every swing 366 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 6: state won the popular vote, but I won that all 367 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 6: the same way in twenty twenty. And look at the 368 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 6: damage that was cast. 369 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: But he's not moving on at all from the twenty 370 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: twenty election was stolen. In fact, he's saying that there 371 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: was a effectively a treasonous conspiracy to undo the twenty 372 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: sixteen election, and he wants accountability for this. This is 373 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: what the current president of the United States is saying. 374 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: And he has been one thing about him on this stuff. 375 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: He has been consistent on how poed he is on 376 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: this for a long time. 377 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 3: Let's cut to the chase, because I think a lot 378 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: of people out there are going to say, Okay, we've 379 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: heard this for years. I think the evidence is out 380 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: there that supports that this did occur. There's no doubt 381 00:19:53,640 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: that they manufactured and in some way exaggerated the amount 382 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: that Russia was involved in the impact that they had, 383 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: even in the verb choices that they used in the 384 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: testimony that they put forward. So here's the question that 385 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: I have you mentioned what the charges could be. They 386 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 3: would have to go through a DC grand jury. DC, 387 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: as we know, votes Democrat ninety five percent. Here is 388 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: my statement to you, and if I'm wrong, we'll grab 389 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: this and we will play it and I will admit 390 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: that I am completely wrong. And you guys can tap 391 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: dance on my idiocy. There's no way that a DC 392 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: grand jury is indicting Barack Obama for anything. It will 393 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: not happen. So you not only well, also. 394 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be when he was when he was president. 395 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: We've already established, right, I mean, the charges against Obama 396 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: would would deal with when you know, Hillary Trump. We're 397 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: talking twenty sixteen election now, and we've already well established 398 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: under Trump that you actually can't be charged for condo 399 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: in office. 400 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: So I think. 401 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: Presidentigher than that's a great point. As we said, the 402 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: Supreme Court has given ample protection of presidents that benefited 403 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: Trump and would benefit Obama here. But let's pretend that 404 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 3: they are charging him for non presidential actions. Like let's 405 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: pretend that they find out that Obama after he left 406 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: the presidency, this occurred in I guess it would be 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: like January, late January twenty seventeen, February twenty seventeen. I 408 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 3: do not believe leave a side statute of limitations too. 409 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: I do not believe that there is a jury in Washington, 410 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: d C. A grand jury that would indict Barack Obama 411 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: for virtually any crime. So you can say hey, we 412 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: want to put out more information. You can say, hey, 413 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: we're investigating all this stuff. Obama basically lives in d C. Right, 414 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: He's never left, so you would have to find a 415 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: venue where you could charge him. I don't see how 416 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: he could be charged for a crime outside of d C. 417 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: And I don't think that the grand jury that sits 418 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 3: typically in d C would indict Barack Obama for anything. 419 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: Now Hillary's in New York and she's never been president. 420 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: So if you were trying to get an indictment against Hillary, 421 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: you would either have to do it in New York 422 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: or in DC. That seems highly unlikely too. Why do 423 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: I bring this up? I believe and I understand the 424 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: frustration over all the lies that were told over what 425 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: I think could be accurately termed to be criminal behavior. 426 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: I don't think there's gonna be any consequences for it. 427 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you I'm wrong. I will I will 428 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: own it. But legally, we didn't coordinate this beforehand. Just 429 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 3: so you know, this is independently. We both came to this, 430 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: and I just don't I don't see it happening unless 431 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: they get very creative within the legal process. I would 432 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: just note Clay that the way though that the other 433 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: side will get very creative with these with charges. 434 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: It's actually on display with a case that hasn't gotten 435 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: a lot of attention in conservative media, a lot more 436 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: focus on Epstein Russia collusion other things. But remember the 437 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: Brianna Taylor case, which was a huge part of the 438 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: BLM narrative and the the the police officer, a police 439 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: officer rather who was this just happened earlier today was 440 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: sentenced to thirty three months in prison for violating the 441 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: civil rights of Brianna Taylor. Now you may be did 442 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Trump DOJ the conviction had already happened. The Trump DOJ 443 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: had said to the judge, Hey, look this guy, this 444 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: is preposterous. Basically, this guy should get one day in jail. 445 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: It's basically time served, like let him out. And the 446 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: judge in the case decided to give him a full 447 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: three years. Basically, you know, just shy of three years 448 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: in federal prison. 449 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Didn't even shoot her. 450 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: He shot in response to a guy shooting at the cops. 451 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: They said, police open up. I mean, I remember this 452 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: Breonna Taylor case. They thought the guy, you know, and 453 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: there's all this story and all this evidence. You look 454 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: at it that there were packages being dropped off at 455 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: the house. So this wasn't like they just went into 456 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: the wrong house. They thought that she was The police 457 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: believed that Breonna Taylor, her premises was being used for 458 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: drug dealer was that was what they got their warrant on. 459 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: So they knocked at the door and the guy starts 460 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: shooting through the door at the cops. Yep, who did 461 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: he really who did he really think he was shooting 462 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: at everybody? He just thought, Oh, it was drug dealers 463 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: that had come to rob him. Really did the drug 464 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: dealers say? 465 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 5: You know? 466 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Police open up? 467 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: But the guy who just got three almost three years 468 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: in federal prison, the Trump DJ wanted one. They wouldn't 469 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: even brought the case. But I believe the conviction had 470 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: already happened. 471 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: This guy. 472 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: I think state charges, by the way, Clay also were 473 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: not brought up against this guy. He shot through the 474 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: window in response to the gunfire at him. That's what 475 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: this cop did. So he returned fire and shot through 476 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: a window to try to hit the guy who was shooting, 477 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: and did hit one of his fellow police officers. And 478 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: they charged him with violating Brenna Taylor's civil rights. 479 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that? 480 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah anything, he didn't shoot her, Just to be clear, 481 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: he didn't even hit her. So by shooting through the 482 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: window in response to somebody else who's trying to kill 483 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: you and your fellow officers the Biden era, DOJ and 484 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: this judge now think you should go to prison for years. 485 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: It's outrageous. I agree. 486 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 3: And they had multiple cases, they had mistrials, They had 487 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: a variety of different stories. They came out for people 488 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: out there who maybe just don't remember what happened on 489 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 3: that day, is that the Louisville police officer said they 490 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: announced themselves before entering the home, were immediately met with gunfire. 491 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: According to the statement, Walker discharged his firearm first injuring 492 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: an officer. Walker claimed, this is the individual inside of 493 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: the home that he thought someone was entering the residence illegally. 494 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: Uh nine cal said, somebody kicked in the door shot 495 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: my girlfriend. So all of this came out of it, 496 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: and look the upshot of it is it happened on 497 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: March thirteenth, twenty twenty, right in the midst of the 498 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: BLM era beginning. 499 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they fed these they fed these cops to 500 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: the angry mob. 501 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Is what happened. 502 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: We all see exactly what happened here. This was just, 503 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we're having a racial reckoning. 504 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: What can we do? The cops were under fire and 505 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: one of them was actually shot, and they returned fire. 506 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: It was an accident that Breonna Taylor was hit. They 507 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: were not trying to shoot her. But if somebody I 508 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: spent a little fair amount of time with guns, a 509 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: fair amount of time shooting. I tell you this, Clay, 510 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: somebody is shooting at me. I am shooting back, a 511 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: pretty good shot, but under fire. 512 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: Nobody knows how I've never been shot at, and nobody 513 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: knows how good they are at dealing with that until 514 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: they have to your adrenaline dump goes through, you know, 515 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: puts your adrenale through the roof, and to charge though 516 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: with you know, he was acquitted on state charges, so 517 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: he's acquitted, this officer, and then they bring federal charges 518 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: of deprivation of rights, which is what they always do 519 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: when they want to get these cops, which is just 520 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: this kind of catch all for like, you know, the 521 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: racial reckoning we need after George Floyd or whatever, he 522 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: is a mistrial on that one, and they bring it again. 523 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: They bring this again after a mistrial and an acquittal, 524 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: so desperate, you know why, because they worried that. 525 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, they're in the in the low income areas. 526 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: Of Louisville, there would be whole neighborhoods or you know, 527 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: whole stores burned down and blocks burned down if they 528 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: didn't at least put one cop away for this. 529 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: That's just the truth. 530 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: I think your point yesterday about the the amount of 531 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: camera is on police, basically we haven't had a BLM 532 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: incident since we have had cameras on police. Doesn't mean 533 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: that police are not going to do things wrong. Everybody 534 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 3: in their profession can screw up, but it's pretty evident 535 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: when a cop acts well outside the bounds of police authority, 536 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: and most people don't defend them. 537 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: But most of the time. 538 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: When you see these videos, you're like, yeah, the cop 539 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: had a reason to be defending himself for herself in 540 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: the manner in which they did. 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Find them 575 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 576 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: You never know what you may get on the program. 577 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: From minutes a minute, we were just talking about the 578 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: decision made to give one of the police officers in Louisville, Kentucky, 579 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: a thirty three month prison sentence, despite the fact that 580 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: the Trump Department of Justice had suggested just one day, 581 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: and we were walking through the Breonna Taylor information and 582 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: giving people more about that because it's been several years 583 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: and some of you may well have forgotten about what 584 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: took place there. Well, listening in Louisville, Kentucky was one 585 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: of the officers involved in that raid. His name is 586 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: John Mattingly, and he is with us now, and so 587 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: I want to bring him in and I'll just say, 588 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: first of all, thanks for listening and broadly, just tell 589 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: us what happened on that day and what you think 590 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 3: about the thirty three month sentence that your former police 591 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: officer colleague got in that case. And obviously thanks for listening. 592 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: What can you tell us about that day? 593 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Clayen Travis, I appreciate you guys having me on 594 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 4: and being willing to get it from you know, firsthand source, 595 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 4: somebody who's kind of been through the fire and all 596 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: this thing. First off, let me start with the decision. 597 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: I think the judge when it was the Biden DOJ 598 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: did everything they asked for in the case. In the trial, 599 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: there were so many things that were unprofessional by that DJ. 600 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 4: I've never set on a side and felt like it 601 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: was a defense attorney over there with underhand tactics lying. 602 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: She did not allow cell phones to get entered into 603 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: evidence or the ones that were in evidence. She refused 604 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: to let him at trial at the end, when the 605 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: jurors kept coming back going, man, we got a hung jury. 606 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: We got a hung jury. And then they asked the 607 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: question should we assume Brianna is dead or alive? She said, 608 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: assumed she was dead or alive, which totally negates the 609 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: legal process and the judge's influence on the jury, because 610 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: in order for a statute such as the civil rights violation, 611 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: the person has to be alive, and there were just 612 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: so many things, man, And I think the appeal is 613 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: so strong and going to go very quickly once the 614 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: process starts, if this DJ even allows it, because I 615 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 4: was sitting in the courtroom and I saw two faces 616 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: to the DJ, the one under Biden and the one 617 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 4: under Trump, and the one under Trump was so rational 618 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: and logical, like any human being would look at a 619 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: process and go, this is the way it should be. 620 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: This makes sense when you look at the facts of 621 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 4: the case, and anything outside of this scope is unreasonable. 622 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 4: And so I'm so happy that Trump's back in. I 623 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: think if once this word gets out on how this 624 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: DJ is actually treating police officers now not as some 625 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: kind of wicked racist, you know, hateful people, as opposed 626 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: to people who are risking their lives simply trying to 627 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: get centerel off the street, trying to get murderers off 628 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: the street, because every time an action was taken. I've 629 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: talked to thousands of cops across the country. When I 630 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: speak and over and over, the sentiment I get from 631 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: them is simply, we're scared to do our job anything 632 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: we do. You know, you've got to worry about the 633 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: bad guy in front of you shooting you're hurting you. 634 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: But more importantly, you got to worry about the government 635 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: behind your stabbing you in the back. 636 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: So you you, sir, you were in you, you were 637 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: at that raid. You were shot in the leg? 638 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, it ripped through my trimeral artery. Thank god 639 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 4: for a tourniquet, or I wouldn't even be talking to you. 640 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: So I had a five and a half hour surgery, 641 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: replaced four inches of the artery with the vein. And yeah, 642 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: and that's the part that gets missed over. You know, 643 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: you talk about the active aggressor in this case was 644 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker, her boyfriend. 645 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: Right, Well, see hit the storyline, the storyline us through 646 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: that day. Yuh, just tell us what happened through the raid, 647 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: What happened at the raid. A lot of people don't 648 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: know that story, So just take us there, tell us. 649 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let me tell about a couple of the 650 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: falsehoods that the ben Crumps of the world put out, 651 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 4: and that was simply him and Kamala Harris and Lebron 652 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: James and all these fools in Hollywood and the sports 653 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 4: world were like, he said, we had the wrong house, 654 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: which is a lie. He said she was asleep in bed, 655 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 4: which is a lie. They said it was a no 656 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: knock warrant, which was a lie, and that the boyfriend 657 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 4: that we were quote looking for had been in custody 658 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 4: for ten hours, which was a lie. So when we 659 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 4: get up to the door, our first knock, a normal knock, 660 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 4: nobody came to the door. So we started banging, I 661 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: mean the loud everybody knows the police knock, especially in 662 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 4: that world, banging, banging, banging, screaming, police search warrant, police 663 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: search warrant. And this went on for a minute, which 664 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 4: when you're at a door, that feels like an eternity. 665 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 4: I mean, we're just banging. A neighbor came out, We 666 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 4: got into an interaction with them, they went back inside, 667 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 4: and after a minute of them not coming to the 668 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: door and us knocking and announcing, we breached the door. 669 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: And as soon as that was breached, and I stepped 670 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: into the doorframe was I was met with a shot 671 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: from Kenneth Walker that ripped through my leg. I was 672 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: able to return a few shots before I got out 673 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 4: of the line of fire, and that's when the guy 674 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: behind me stepped up and began shooting as I went out. Well, 675 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: Brett was the third one in the stack, and this 676 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: is the whole premise of this case. They get smiths understood. 677 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: And I had questions at first too, because we're not 678 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: trained to shoot through windows. That's not how we're trained. However, 679 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: there's always exigent circumstances to things. And when Brett was 680 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 4: at the door with me, he was the third one 681 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 4: in the stack. He saw the shot, heard it, saw 682 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 4: me go down and say I was shot. He circled 683 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: around the front of the building as these shots were 684 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 4: ringing out repeatedly by the other officer at the door. 685 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: He could see the flashes through the window, and in 686 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 4: his mind he thought we were still getting fired upon 687 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: by the individual inside. We were told when we went 688 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 4: to this warrant by the brief by the investigators that 689 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 4: did the case, that it was just going to be 690 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 4: breathing at home. She's alone, no dogs, no kids, no 691 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: boyfriends no weapons. So in our mind, that's what we 692 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: were expecting because we thought they did a thorough investigation, 693 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 4: which comes to find out they didn't. So once we're 694 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 4: met with fire and all this gunfire is getting exchanged, 695 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: Brett circles around to the front and sees these flashes 696 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: of the flame in the dark of the night in 697 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 4: this house, and he's like, man, my guys are getting 698 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 4: executed at the doorway because he knew I'd already been shot, 699 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 4: was down, So he started firing through the windows in 700 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 4: an attempt only to stop the threat, only to get 701 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: that guy to quit shooting, because in his mind what 702 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 4: he perceived in that moment, in those few seconds, and 703 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 4: this thing was quick. I mean it was started and 704 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 4: over within twelve seconds. It was completely silent after twelve seconds. 705 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: And so that's the premise of the case. That's where 706 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: how they go, Well, this is this is important. 707 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad you shared all that with us, because I 708 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: think a lot of people out there listening right now 709 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: are probably reacting as many other jurors have, which is, 710 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: you got shot by someone in side. 711 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: Of this apartment. 712 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 3: How in the world is a police officer returning fire 713 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 3: at what he thinks is someone trying to kill his 714 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: fellow officers guilty of a crime that would necessitate him 715 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 3: being in prison for three years. 716 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: That seems crazy to me. 717 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: And deprivation of civil rights specifically, which try to square 718 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: that circle. 719 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't even meet the standards of that number one. 720 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: But secondly, Brett is the only officer ever charged for 721 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: returning fire after being fired upon that hit in the one. 722 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 4: He's the only officer in American history has been chartered 723 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 4: with that and not. 724 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, I think the good news is that, uh, well, 725 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: we can share our opinions here freely. We don't have 726 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: to pretend to be sitting on the fence on these 727 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 2: kinds of things. I think President Trump should commuter part 728 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: in this. You know Brett Hankinson immediately. And I know 729 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: that there are people who listen to this show who 730 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: are close to the president, who are right now in 731 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: the White House. So I think President Trump, and I'll 732 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: share this public should at least step in with a 733 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: commutation of this clayft. I mean, I would, I would 734 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: say an outright pardon the notion that this officer might 735 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: serve or that could even theoretically, sir before appeal, almost 736 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: three years in prison for shooting a gun when someone's 737 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: been shooting at officers and he didn't even hit anybody. Well, 738 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: it's just it's just it's it's a case that is, 739 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: But it's so instructive about how vile the Biden administration 740 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 2: was when it came to throwing law enforcement under the bus. 741 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Sergeant Maddingley, who hit I 742 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 3: don't even remember who hit Breonna Taylor. 743 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 4: One of my bullets hit I believe her left leg 744 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: because as soon as Kenneth shot, he dove into a 745 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: bedroom because he was right on a wall and she 746 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 4: was She was on the outside of me. Number one, 747 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 4: Why do you bring your girlfriend out in the hall 748 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: if you really think you're getting broken into to stand 749 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: with you? So as soon as he shot, he dove 750 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 4: out of the way like a coward. She attempted to following. 751 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: One of my bullets struck her armor leg, I can't 752 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 4: remember which one. And then the other officer who was 753 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 4: firing over top of me once I went down, actually 754 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: struck her and and tragically, you know, nobody wanted her 755 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 4: to die, but tragically, one of the bullets struck her 756 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 4: A order and the medical examiner said, had she been 757 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: shot at the door of the emergency room, she would 758 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 4: not have lived. She died that quickly because it ripped 759 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: through her order and she bled out. So the premise 760 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 4: that that we did not render aid, which is what 761 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 4: the judge said, blew my mind. And I'm like number one. 762 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: Kennis Walker didn't even call nine one one for six 763 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: and a half minutes after this incident happened. He refused 764 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: to come out to almost seventeen minutes after this incident happened. 765 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: He had no blood on him, and when he came out, 766 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: he actually told the police unseen on bodycam, that Brianna 767 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: is the one that shot because she was scared. 768 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: So this dude, I forget. 769 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 3: Did he have a criminal lied? He lied about who 770 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: fired the shot on body camera? 771 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I've got that video. 772 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: Yes, But did he have a previous criminal record. I'm 773 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: trying to remember all the facts of the case. 774 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 4: He had been arrested one time with a gun in marijuana, 775 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 4: and originally he lost his rights to a weapon. They 776 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: amended it down to a misdemeanor like all these courts 777 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 4: do for the thugs, and then he got his rights 778 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: back for the gun. However, in his text threat on 779 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 4: the film they did download from him, He's on there 780 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 4: dealing drugs to people. He's talked about home invasions. So 781 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: this guy was not this saint that they put out. 782 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 3: How many people do you think? No, I appreciate you 783 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 3: calling in. I mean, obviously we didn't schedule this. You 784 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: heard us talking about it. You're on I'm assuming in 785 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 3: Louisville listening to us there. We have a big audience. 786 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 3: How many people do you think know the full story here? 787 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 3: Because I think Buck's right. President Trump should commute your 788 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 3: fellow officer. This thirty three month sentence is crazy for 789 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: what he was charged with. The initial by the way, 790 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: warrant for people out there who don't know, you were 791 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: told that she was there by herself. 792 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, what was the intent of the warrant? What were 793 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: you going to try to do? 794 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: Well? This was going to be a RICO case on 795 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 4: this JaMarcus Clover, who had just been a menace. He 796 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 4: had six or seven pending felony cases in circuit court 797 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 4: for guns and drugs, fentanyl, all this stuff she was. 798 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 4: This is what tied him to her apartment that everybody 799 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 4: asked about his ID had her address, his vehicles were 800 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 4: registered to her address, his phone came back to her address, 801 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 4: his bank account had her address. In January, two months 802 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 4: prior to this incident, he was arrested on a warrant 803 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 4: for drugs and guns, on a search warrant where they 804 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 4: got seven guns and a bunch of dope. And she's 805 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 4: the one that bailed him out. And when she was 806 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 4: there to bail him out, she gave her addresses his 807 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 4: and gave her phone number as his, so everything tied 808 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 4: back to her. On jail records her talking, it's got 809 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 4: him talking about Brionna held all of our money because 810 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 4: his baby mama was ticked off that fourteen thousand his 811 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 4: was at her house and he said, well, maybe she 812 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 4: holds all of our money, and so she was tied 813 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 4: into this. In twenty seventeen, she rented a car that 814 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: a person was murdered in and they found the vehicle 815 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 4: with this dude shot in the head, and when they 816 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 4: asked her about it, she was like, I don't know 817 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,479 Speaker 4: what happened to the car, give it to JaMarcus Glover 818 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 4: and nothing was ever done with that. She was not 819 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 4: an EMT and I'm not bashing her, but all the 820 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 4: media lot about all this stuff. She was not an EMT. 821 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 4: She got fired in twenty seventeen after only five months 822 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 4: of being on the job, wasn't even off probation, and 823 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 4: the city did a no rehire clause, which is rare 824 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 4: in most instances. So there was some pretty serious stuff 825 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 4: tied to that. And so this whole case of y'all 826 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 4: shouldn't have been there in the first place. Well, she 827 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 4: was part of this organization. She may not have been 828 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 4: the one physically slinging the drugs, but she was out there. 829 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 4: She was deeply involved. 830 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: This is fan So we appreciate you calling us and 831 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 3: filling in our audience because this is great and you're. 832 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: Doing a service by telling the people the truth about this. 833 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: And also, like I said, we've got senators, we got 834 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: people in and around Trump at the White House who. 835 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: Are going to be hearing this. 836 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: And there's absolutely no way that that officer should be 837 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: serving a day in prison for this. It's a total 838 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: outrage of the justice system. 839 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 4: Well, one of the travesties in this case, guys, is 840 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 4: that from the beginning, our department refused to combat any 841 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 4: of the lies. They've never told the truth about it. 842 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 4: Our mayor at the time super little did they No, 843 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 4: they couldn't violating law or violating policies I wanted to. 844 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 4: They demoted me down into the property room from my 845 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 4: narcotics post. And when that happened, and the only reason 846 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 4: they did it is because I wrote a book and 847 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 4: started talking about it is to tell the truth. And 848 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 4: they were trying to do anything they could to fire me. 849 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 4: And I saw the writing on the wall, and I 850 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 4: wanted my pension because that was the only way I 851 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 4: was going to be able to feed my family. So 852 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 4: I retired im on accord because they were trying to 853 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 4: push me out. And I wrote a book, Twelve Seconds 854 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 4: in the Dark, and you get it on my website. 855 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 4: And the only reason I wrote that wasn't for fame 856 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 4: or notoriety, but because no one was telling the truth. 857 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 4: Everybody had all these misconceptions of the case, and I 858 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 4: was frustrated, and so we put that out there and 859 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 4: word has spread some. But when you're let's face it, 860 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: I'm a nobody. You guys didn't know who I was 861 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: except for what you saw on the media, So nobody 862 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 4: like me, it's hard to get the word out. It's 863 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 4: hard to push this agenda when all the factors are 864 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 4: against you. 865 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: John maattinglyy dot com is his site officer. Mattingly, thank 866 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 2: you so much for shedding some very important light on 867 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 2: this case. And we're going to stay on it and 868 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: a lot more people know about it now than did 869 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: just a couple hours ago, So thank you well. 870 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you guys for being the arbiter 871 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 4: of truth. 872 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 873 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 2: When someone's in the know, it's smart to listen to 874 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: what they have to say. And Jim Rickards is a 875 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: guy who has been in the know for a long time. 876 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: He's a former presidential advisor, the same man who correctly 877 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 2: predicted the two thousand and eight crash, Trump's twenty sixteen 878 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: victory in the twenty twenty pandemic. Rickards believes President Trump 879 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: is about to unleash a one hundred and fifty trillion 880 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: dollars state owned asset that's been hidden for over a century. 881 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: This could trigger an economic boom not seen in a 882 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: century and send one small sector of the market skyrocketing. 883 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: Act quickly and don't miss out on what could be 884 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: an incredible opportunity. Once this breaks his mainstream news, The 885 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 2: opportun you don't need to move first, Well, it's not there. 886 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 2: Go watch Jim's interview at Birthright twenty twenty five dot com. 887 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 2: That's Birthright twenty twenty five dot com to DC. 888 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: Now, Senator Sullivan of Alaska is going to join us 889 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 3: talk about the Big Beautiful Bill. Also, I would imagine 890 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 3: Senator you are eager to get back to Alaska so 891 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 3: you can start talking with everyone there about the impact 892 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 3: of the Big Beautiful Bill on many different fronts, including energy. 893 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 3: What's the difference between what the Trump administration is allowing 894 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 3: your state of Alaska to do with all the natural 895 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 3: resources there compared to what the Biden administration was doing 896 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,479 Speaker 3: for your state. 897 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: What is the impact? 898 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 7: Jeez clay Buck, that is the greatest question. Great to 899 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 7: be back on your show, and that's the key question, 900 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 7: and it's one hundred and ten percent difference. The Democrats 901 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 7: want to shut down Alaska. I want to shutdown American energy. 902 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 7: President Trump and his team want to unleash it and 903 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 7: they're doing it everywhere. This Big Beautiful Bill does it, 904 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 7: especially with regard to Alaska. But look to be more specific, 905 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 7: during the four years of the Biden administration, Alaskans know this. 906 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 7: We suffered through seventy that seven zero executive orders and 907 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 7: executive action singularly focused exclusively focused on shutting down Alaska's 908 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 7: resource development economy, and the President and his team are 909 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 7: one hundred and ten percent opposite. That's great for America, 910 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,720 Speaker 7: great for Alaska, and really great for American workers. 911 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 2: Senator, appreciate you being with us. What's going on in 912 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 2: the Senate right now, you guys still have some time 913 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: left here. You're about to go on recess. I hear 914 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: Schumer is up to Schumer shenanigans and blocking judges and 915 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: causing some problems for you guys. Bring us up to 916 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 2: speed with the business of the Senate as it stands 917 00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: right now. 918 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 919 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 7: Look, Buck, we had a really very productive first six 920 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 7: months with the President. I would say historic, and you 921 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 7: guys mentioned it. I'm getting ready to go home and 922 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 7: really really sell this one big, beautiful bill. I don't 923 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 7: think there's any state that fared better than Alaska, particularly 924 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 7: to their earlier questions on the American energy components. A 925 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 7: huge part of this bill is unlocking American energy, and 926 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 7: most of the bill was unlocking Alaska. You know, American 927 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 7: energy dominance run through my great state, So I'm anxious 928 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 7: to get home to make the pitch to so many 929 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 7: Alaskans where they have a much better understanding how this 930 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 7: helps working families, our economy, our military, our Coastguard is 931 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 7: a home run. But to your question, Schumer, you know, look, 932 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 7: the guy is so afraid of his left wing right. 933 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 7: Every day he wakes up scared to death that AOC 934 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 7: is going to primary him him. So he is trying 935 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 7: to fight supposedly anything that we're trying to get done 936 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 7: to move forward with our government, certainly on legislation, but 937 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 7: on nominees, on basic you know, under secretary's assistant secretaries, 938 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 7: people who run our government, he blocks every way they 939 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 7: can to get their Senate confirmation. So we're going to 940 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 7: start just jamming down on these guys. We just had 941 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 7: a meeting of all our Senate Republican colleagues saying, hey, 942 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 7: we need to go morning, noon, and night to start 943 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 7: getting the president's nominees across the board. We've gotten zero 944 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 7: cooperation from Schumer, and usually you guys on the lower 945 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 7: level nominees, if it's an assistant secretary, you kind of 946 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 7: put it in a package to move something forward. With 947 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 7: several nominees. That's very normal. We did it with Biden, 948 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 7: they did it previously. Schumer's not doing that. This is 949 00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 7: the most obstruction we've seen from any Senate Minority leader 950 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 7: on another administration's nominees, literally since Herbert Hoover. The guy 951 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 7: won't help us at all. So we're gonna start jamming 952 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 7: down on him. 953 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 3: We're talking to Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. One of 954 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 3: the things that obviously is going to be a huge 955 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 3: topic of discussion next year is the House. And I 956 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: think we talked about this with you before, but the 957 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: ranked choice voting in Alaska seems to me to be 958 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 3: a complete mess. 959 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: What is the latest on that. 960 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 3: Do you agree that it's a mess, And what are 961 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 3: Alaskans thinking after they were kind of I think bamboozled 962 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 3: into the idea in the first place. 963 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 7: Well, look, it's still on the ballot in Alaska, and 964 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 7: there's an outside group that put it on the ballot 965 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 7: a statewide initiative in twenty twenty The Republicans fought it, 966 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 7: I fought it. We tried to get it removed in 967 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 7: twenty twenty four. By the way, both times it pass 968 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 7: with less than one percent of the vote. And we 969 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 7: are the groups against it. Republicans myself, we are outspent. 970 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 7: It's unbelievable, I don't know, twelve thirteen million by the 971 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 7: outside group's four ranked choice voting versus eighty thousand by 972 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 7: the Republican Party. It's very confusing, and it can be really, 973 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 7: really manipulated. And the Democrats, in my view, particularly Schumer, 974 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 7: who's already been you know, I'm up for reelection this 975 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 7: cycle as well. We have a Congressman Nick Vegas. She's 976 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 7: doing a great job, but we'll have to run against 977 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 7: that and look the best way even with a system 978 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 7: like that which we don't like. I don't like. It's confusing, 979 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 7: it can be manipulated. Alaskans are still confused by it. 980 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 7: Is to show what we're getting done, and again, I 981 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 7: want to come back to this one big, beautiful bill 982 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 7: for Alaska. This bill, across every element of policy in 983 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 7: our economy, is really really strong, and what we're going 984 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 7: to do is run on our record, and I think 985 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 7: for Alaska, this bill, particularly as it relates to jobs 986 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 7: in our economy and the working class, is a home run. 987 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: What are the most important changes that Trump administration could 988 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 2: see through here from where things were under four years 989 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 2: of Biden on the issue of energy. I mean, obviously, Alaska, 990 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 2: a very important energy production state, affects your economy. It 991 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 2: really affects America and the global economy too. You guys 992 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 2: have a lot of stuff up there. What needs to 993 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 2: happen or what are some of the concrete things that 994 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 2: Trump can do so that we take drill, baby drill 995 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: to the next level. 996 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we've done it in this bill, and the 997 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 7: President did it literally day one. You guys might recall. 998 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 7: One of the president's first executive orders about a couple 999 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 7: hours after he was inaugurated, was this executive Order on 1000 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 7: Unleashing Alaska's extra Ordinary Resource Potential. I work directly with 1001 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 7: the President and his team on this to unleash Alaska. 1002 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 7: We're the only state in the country that has our 1003 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 7: own executive order. So what that executive order did was 1004 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 7: it said, hey, we're going to reverse pretty much all 1005 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 7: the seventy executive orders that Biden issued to shut down Alaska. 1006 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 7: So that that was good, But the big beautiful Bill 1007 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 7: is even better because what we did is that we 1008 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 7: put a lot of those reversals into law, and that's 1009 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 7: just obviously much stronger in terms of what you know, 1010 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 7: God forbid, we have a Democrat administration four years from now. 1011 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 7: I certainly hope we don't. But if that administration tries 1012 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 7: to come in and shut down Alaska, they're not going 1013 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 7: to be able to do it because let me give 1014 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 7: you a couple examples. On the One Big Beautiful Bill, 1015 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 7: we open the Anwar, the National Patrolum Reserve of Alaska, 1016 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 7: the cook Inlet Region. These are all federal lands that 1017 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 7: have huge resources, and we mandate in this bill regular 1018 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 7: lease sales that Biden would never do, that Democrats would 1019 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,280 Speaker 7: never do in the law. So it says, hey, energy 1020 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 7: companies can come up, they get regular lea sales on 1021 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 7: all of these really really important federal lands. As you 1022 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 7: guys mentioned, Alaska has so much oil and gas, so 1023 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 7: many critical minerals. And then really importantly, we got a 1024 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 7: permitting reform provision in the One Big Beautiful Bill that 1025 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 7: will help expedite the permitting of these projects. One of 1026 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 7: our greatest challenges the Dems love to abuse it is, 1027 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 7: you know, having a permitting system. It takes ten to 1028 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty years to permit a resource development project. 1029 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 7: That kills our competitiveness. It's really hard for long term 1030 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 7: investors to invest in Alaska when they have these permitting issues, 1031 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 7: and we got per many reform done in this one big, 1032 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 7: beautiful bill as well to expedite these projects, get them 1033 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 7: online quickly. That's a part of the bill. It hasn't 1034 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 7: got a lot of attention. Great for Alaska, great for America. 1035 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 7: So if you can get it in the law, which 1036 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 7: is what we did on energy in this bill, it's 1037 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 7: even better than the executive order that the President issued, 1038 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 7: which we are really appreciative of. So it's the combo 1039 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 7: of both. And he's got a great energy team, a 1040 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 7: bunch of his cabinet. We're just up in Alaska recently. 1041 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 7: I hosted them all over the state. It's going to 1042 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 7: be very exciting times for Alaska and resource development. By 1043 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 7: the way, we'd love to have you guys, Clay buck 1044 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 7: up up to our state. We can do a program 1045 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 7: from Alaska. I think I talked about that last time 1046 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 7: I was on it. 1047 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 2: Can we get as long as we get yeah, I was, 1048 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 2: as long as we can get Clay close to some 1049 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,240 Speaker 2: grizzly bears, He's going to be excited. 1050 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: He likes to get real close though, Senator, you know 1051 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: he wants to see them. 1052 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 7: Clay, I will bring you close. 1053 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 6: Man. 1054 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 7: There's great fishing going on in our great state right now. 1055 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 7: It's it's the place to be. But we really do that. 1056 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 7: Remember last time, last time I was on the show, 1057 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 7: we talked about you guys all coming up. You got 1058 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 7: a lot of listeners in Alaska, huge fans, and we 1059 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 7: can do it. You guys should have a ball. 1060 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: I am sold on this idea. 1061 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 3: In fact, I was talking to my wife downstairs right 1062 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: but during the last commercial break, she was like, Hey, 1063 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 3: what you got going on? I said, hey, we've got 1064 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 3: one of the senators from Alaska going Neither she nor 1065 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 3: I have ever been to Alaska. It is on the 1066 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 3: top of the list. And she said, well, we've got 1067 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 3: to go up to Alaska. So I know we have 1068 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 3: some good affiliates up there. You guys can reach out. 1069 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 3: Let's see if we can get this set up. I 1070 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 3: want to make the trip. I've been wanting to visit 1071 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 3: for a long time, Senator, So maybe we can get 1072 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 3: this thing worked out where we can come up and 1073 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 3: do broadcast, or one of us can at least, and 1074 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 3: that would be me, and we'll see whether Buck can 1075 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 3: make it too. 1076 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 7: Butay, you come up with your wife, Buck, you come 1077 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 7: up with your family, and here's what we'll do. We'll 1078 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 7: do the one Big Beautiful Bill tour because look, there 1079 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 7: is so many good things in this bill for the country, 1080 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 7: but for the great state of Alaska. I could do 1081 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 7: a program with you guys for three hours. And what 1082 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 7: we're trying to do. Now you know the way the 1083 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 7: Democrats work. Schumer has spent his far left dark money groups. 1084 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 7: They've spent I mean, believe or not, up close to 1085 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 7: two million bucks running negative ads against me and this 1086 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 7: bill and how it's horrible. It's not. They're all false ads. 1087 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 7: So what we're doing is we're trying to make the 1088 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 7: case all over the state. But heck, we could do 1089 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 7: a one big beautiful clay Buck tour. 1090 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: And I don't hate it. I don't hate this idea 1091 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: at all. 1092 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 7: And I'm telling you, man, you guys would love it. 1093 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 7: Bring your family, we'd have a blast, and we'd we'd 1094 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 7: get the word out right because people want to hear 1095 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 7: the truth. 1096 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: I love this. We'll talk of the Bucks. 1097 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 3: Got a three month old, so traveling all the way 1098 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 3: from Miami to Alaska bit of a trip, so he 1099 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 3: might not be able to do it, but we will. 1100 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 3: I want to come up there and we'll come up 1101 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 3: for the show for sure and help you out with 1102 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 3: this process. And fusher Greg is making fun of me 1103 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,760 Speaker 3: and saying maybe I could swim from Alaska to Russia 1104 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 3: because I said I could swim from Alcatraz to the same. 1105 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 2: That's after you do the Alcatraz swim. The bearing straight 1106 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 2: swim is the that's the pro or challenging. 1107 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: Senator. We appreciate the time. 1108 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 7: Okay, guys, good to be back on the show, and 1109 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,919 Speaker 7: thanks for your great work. 1110 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it. I will say Clay Alaska in 1111 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 2: the summer, which is when I went there. Maybe, Yeah, 1112 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 2: I went keen I Peninsula fishing with my dad and 1113 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 2: my brothers. One of the most in terms of natural beauty, 1114 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. 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So 1119 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 2: maybe we make that happen in the meantime. 1120 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 3: I bet you know what works well in Alaska, Buck, 1121 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 3: I bet rapid radios work really, really well in Alaska 1122 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 3: because you don't necessarily know if you're going to get 1123 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 3: great reception, but you need to have something reliable in 1124 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 3: the event that you've got something going on. 1125 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: Maybe grizzly bears are in the yard and you need 1126 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of help. 1127 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: Maybe you want to make sure that you're protected in 1128 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 3: the event of some sort of weather catastrophe, power going out. 1129 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: Whatever it might be. 1130 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 3: We talked about this when the storms hit last year 1131 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 3: and Asheville, North Carolina, was in peril. 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