WEBVTT - Mick Shots _ video_11_25.mp3 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:04.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:13.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.120 streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.920 And the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:29.720 Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.159 We hadn't heard this in a while, You. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:34.120 Mean we hadn't heard in a while. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:41.040 We heard it Friday on a Monday. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.840 Of course, we always play it Friday. It's fabulous fight 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.080 song Friday. We just haven't had a victory Monday for 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:57.640 a while. That's sad. Yeah, we were talking on her. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.840 That's you count as to win. Don't you think? I 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.560 think the Cowboys won that game twice? 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.959 Maybe three times? 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.720 Well? Well, well a factory Monday. You're inside the s 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.920 w BC podcast studio and this is mix Shots brought 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.480 to you by Miller Lite. And Mickey already has his 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.760 nose to the grindstone because there's another game facing him 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:27.480 in three days. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.039 Boy, that's gonna be quick, right, that's the Giants, But 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.800 we can talk about the Giants tomorrow. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.280 Let's talk about the Commanders. Let's talk about what they 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.160 call Dallas week in DC. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.720 Boy, they spoil a lot of people's up coming Thanksgiving. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.200 I'll guarantee you that although there was quite a few 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.880 Cowboy fans in that stadium, and I was sitting there beforehand, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.320 and when I'm thinking about all the people or all 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.520 the guys that weren't going to play, and I'm sitting there, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.760 going all these poor people they and they were in 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.480 the lower bowl, right good seats with the yard line, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.320 right behind the Cowboys bench, and I'm going, I wonder 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.440 how much they have to pay for those seats, And 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.400 now the Cowboys are going to go out there with 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.799 this team, and uh yeah, how wrong you could be. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.800 I had a good time just watching it. I was, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.480 I was downright giddy. I got admitted. I was in 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.040 the hotel room. It was time to check out, and 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:33.000 I wasn't going anywhere. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.400 You paid for a late checkout? 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.320 No, No, I knew the manager, so you know, I 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.480 forgot You're ever since Walter. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.880 I must admit I a little lie. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.560 I said that mister so and so said that I 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.160 was supposed to have a late checkout. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.600 They believe me. It was easy. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:54.240 You know what. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.720 That's funny because my column that's going to go up 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.120 as soon as are out look starts working here again today, 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.799 I wrote, I said, you know, I know these people 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.160 in the stadium were probably coming out of their skin. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.840 I said, but if you were watching that home, I 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.919 bet you got up off your pup and started dancing. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.160 It was just unbelievable. Really, I don't think I've seen 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.200 a game like that. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.519 Especially what say, the last minute forty. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.840 Whatever, there were a total from the three oh two 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.080 mark on the last three minutes of the game there 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.239 were thirty one points scored. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:35.680 It was three to three at halftime three three and 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.880 only because of a block field goal, a missfield goal. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:44.120 Their missfield goal, Cowboys led twenty to nine with three 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:49.360 oh five left. With three two left, the Commanders scored 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.600 with then a two point conversion which made it twenty 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.560 to seventeen, so you'd add it up. Final score was 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.640 thirty four to twenty six. So the Commanders in the 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.560 last three o two scored seventeen points and the Cowboys 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.120 scored fourteen points. Thirty one points in three minutes. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:09.040 So the Cowboys that ended up scoring two return touchdowns 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:13.760 yep for a total of twenty seconds. Turpins was thirteen 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.760 and one yea. Thomas oh Boy picked the click. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:24.000 Man and it was Interpin's score came with two forty 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:29.799 nine left and one ye Thomas came with fourteen seconds left. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.840 Which I'm sure everybody on the bench is yelly, go down, 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:33.760 go down? 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:34.279 What do you do? 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.599 Look on McCarthy's face. A TV shot to McCarthy and 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.680 he had this yes, and then oh what's he doing? 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.000 I even said it. I was what I was like, 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.440 I talked to myself in the press box and I'm 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.400 going go down. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.760 How about the best three sixty return for a Testtown kid? 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.440 His unbelievable. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.520 I mean that was the fastest three Yeah, I think 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.280 I've seen it. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:06.360 Turned the game around basically, because you're sitting there at 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:14.440 twenty to seventeen with three h two left, and this 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.400 Dallas offense was going to have to do something Otherwise 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.039 Jayden Daniels in Washington was going to get another chance. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.840 And I think they have the capability of throwing an 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.560 eighty six yard touchdown. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.720 Faster Turpins on. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.480 He's unbelievable, He's funny. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.400 He's he talks a mile a minute. He talks faster 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:37.000 than he runs. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:37.960 Head up after that. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.320 Right, oh you should have seen it? 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.000 And on and someone said he's got a career as 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:43.720 an auctioneer. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.000 I heard that on the ticket Saturday. That's so funny. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.960 So when I asked him today, I said, do you 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:59.159 think he mishit the kick? Or did Can he not 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.640 get it to the end zone? And he goes, oh no, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.760 he goes, I know that guy. I played against them. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.599 At Oklahoma Austin Cybery. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.279 He's a good kicker. They were trying to mess with me, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.000 you know, kicking it short line drive. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:18.040 Special coach had tricks up his sleeve, as evidenced by 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.240 the block to field goal to start the game. And 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.400 then the Cowboys got his number later. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.000 And he gets the ball and you know, and it's like, 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.200 so what do you see after you spin? And I go, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.720 because you were going like very deliberately right, And he goes, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:43.159 I was trying to see their angles, angles, angles. 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.680 He's so good at his craft. He's like a scientist 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.880 in the laboun he got. 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.880 I mean I could see it because I could see 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.440 the whole field where we're at. You guys got TV. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.160 But he he started going at the ten and when 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.440 he got to the fifteen, and one guy came with 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.719 a hand and just tapped him. I go, he's gone, Yeah, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.920 and the and they're not going to catch him. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.080 He reminded me of the whole premise of the forty 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.120 six defense bears right. No one could get by him 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.640 in the running game, but Tom Langer was always holding 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.160 that carried up and saying, but if you get by 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.280 that first wave right, you're gone. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.480 Well that was the premise of this new kickoff a 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.000 little because they thought that if you can get by 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.880 the first wave, we got a chance. Exactly, big returns 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.600 because there's nobody behind but. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.080 Everyone everyone can't make a three sixty move right right 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:41.280 to get by the way. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:42.880 That's where the expertise goes. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.200 Everyone's gonna try it now they're gonna get They're gonna. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.400 Yeah, oops oops oops, you know, because those were too. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.080 Well, you're seeing that from Zeke. But it's at the 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.160 at the at the line of scrimmage because he can't 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.960 get past the life discribage, and so. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.520 He does it three sixties swallowed up as soon as 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:04.200 he gets the ball. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.880 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Everybody makes fun of him. Do they 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.480 watch the runs when he gets them? Of these, there's 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.960 no hole. It's not like he can't with Zeke. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.640 It's as if okay, Zeke's in the game, they're going 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:16.480 to give him the ball. 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.840 Unbelievable. But yeah. So so today they started asking him 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.360 about he wears glasses now Turken okay, and uh it 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.840 was like, well, he goes, well, I had trouble reading 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.360 and I couldn't see distance. And it's like, well, you 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.760 can see the football, okay, Oh yeah, I can see 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.440 the football. I just can't look across the locker room 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.320 and read those names. They're fuzzy. So I finally decided 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.160 to get glasses and I asked him, I said, could 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.439 you see the end zone? He said always? 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:52.800 So is he wearing contexts? 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.640 I believe, I believe so. Yeah, but he's got these 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:57.080 big I know. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.120 It came out a couple of weeks ago. He had 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:00.280 gone the eye doctor. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.600 And he didn't realize that. He said, I had trouble reading. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.600 I remember when I was in fourth grade when I 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.520 got glasses for the first time, and I thought everyone 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:14.800 saw like that. In fact, Everson, I was the quarterback 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:21.920 for the nine and under Irving WYMCA Army and we 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.160 set a record by scoring no points the entire season. 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.520 I was the quarterback and I led our team to 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.760 zero points. I was the commander of the army, and 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.959 that's when we figured out that I needed glasses. I remember, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.920 and I remember going to downtown Dallas. I was just 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:45.080 heaving the ball down field, and I remember going to 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.560 downtown Dallas get my new glasses and then put them on, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.240 and it was like this whole world open up to me. Wow, 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:57.120 there's skyscrapers here, but that's Cavante Turpin. I mean, it's 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:01.560 amazing detail. You can see, you can others names on 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.040 the lockers across the way. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.960 Well, as a kid, you know, I think it's different 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.280 from as a grown man to finally say wow, maybe 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:11.040 the ball looked better. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:12.600 You can say everything much. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.839 So what do you think of all these performances? That 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.400 and knowing what they didn't have on the field, which 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.559 was the most dramatic best. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.560 I think when the score got to be twenties was 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.920 the twenty seventeen yep, that was Did you pick that? 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:35.400 No? 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:35.760 Okay? 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.600 I picked it after the field goal twenty seven twenty Yeah, 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:42.319 I to what you picked? 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:42.800 Okay? 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.640 And Donovan Wilson was my boy who happened to punch. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.080 The ball out, Uh huh, yeah. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.360 I was looking because he wasn't in coverage. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.360 I was talking to nobody in the in the hotel 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.319 room like twenty seven twenty and then when he knocks 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.000 about like I started to text you guys. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.440 I know every time I text. So yeah, just if 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:10.840 text you guys, Washington would have won. I was so 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.120 glad I didn't text. I almost said some of that. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.800 It definitely makes a difference. It makes a difference where 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:21.240 you're sitting watching the game. It's so Josh Butler. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:29.480 Yes, twelve tackles, three passes, broken up, a sack. I 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.400 believe he had maybe a tackle for a loss. It 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.600 just this guy was on the practice square. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:36.840 You know why he had twelve tackles. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.800 Yeah, I know, because they kept throwing at it, but 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.840 they didn't want to throw They didn't want to throw 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:45.760 it land right. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.120 We talked about him in training camp. Yes, that's why 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.120 I wanted to interview him, that the three million followers 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.000 on top need to go interview him. He was look 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.720 and and we did. We did a full blown story 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.199 on him. But so I watched him in training camp. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:00.959 I said, this guy he's got something here. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.040 He did I mean he I thought he was going 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.680 to make the team. Yeah, I was surprised they got 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.760 him on the practice squad. Right, Well, he just held 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.319 court today. It's his birthday, by the way. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:12.640 Wow nice. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.320 But he stood there and talked to the last person 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.400 that asked him a question, and it was me because 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.199 he looked at me and he goes, you got something. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.960 I go, yeah, I said, what was the mindset going 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.280 into this game? When you had all these guys missing? 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.680 What were you thinking? He goes. All I know is 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:35.160 I've worked hard, I studied, I practiced. This was my opportunity. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.600 He goes, and I have to take advantage everything I've 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.440 gone through to get to this point. He goes, I'm 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.120 not worrying about who's not there. I'm there and I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:44.920 got to play. 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.760 You have been talking a loud about them, Bill Well, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.880 I mean, once you dig into his story and realize. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.959 But I first noticed him on the field. I to 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.880 think he had a pick in the first practice at 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.520 training camp or something of dak okay, and so that 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.160 caught my and then I'm starting and I knew that 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.600 they had signed him like a and he was in 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.920 camp last year and played in pre season games last year. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.400 But once I but it was a late signing because 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.760 he had played in the USFL. So he wasn't here 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.880 during the off season, and but when and then you 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.400 get into the season and he's on the practice squad 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.800 and you don't pay attention to practice squad guys, and 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.880 so really digging in this year and then you read it. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.400 You hear about his story and losing his parents when 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.280 he was in college at Michigan State and uh, and 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.439 then COVID hits, So he wasn't drafted, but he had 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:42.000 two degrees from Michigan State, including a master's degree, and 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.560 COVID hits, he doesn't get an opportunity and because there's 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.400 basically pro day got canceled or whatever, and so he's 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.760 got no chance to even and so then he goes 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.960 and makes something of himself, goes to Hollywood and his 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.480 entertainment career and starts up his you know, he's an 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.800 entrepreneurial spirit about him. But at the same time he's 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.320 still working out and stuff. And it's like three years 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.880 passed by, and then finally he gets a call from 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.160 the USFL Michigan Panthers in twenty twenty three. This is 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:17.400 like four years after he graduated from Michigan State, and hey, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.920 we need you. Yeah, and so. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.000 He hold it right there too, because they asked him, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.760 how did the Michigan Panthers know about you? And he goes, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.840 I got no idea. That's like, did you know somebody 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.400 there that you know, said hey, this guy can He goes, No, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.920 he goes, they called me one night, and he goes 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.520 and thank god, I answered the phone, and they said 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.080 we'd like to sign you. And somebody said, did you 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.720 have an agent? He goes, I didn't have an agent 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.560 until last year. He goes. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.680 I he was in California, and so he said, give 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:58.400 me two days. He drives to Michigan and plays for 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.120 the US and then the Cowboys because they scout the 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.320 USFL and then they give him a shot right before 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.280 training camp last year. And they liked enough about him. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.360 They was on the practice squad all year out of 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.600 West Mesquite High School. 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:10.840 Here. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:15.800 Wow, I mean, it's amazing story. Well, and he's you know, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.640 so he's twenty seven years old. He's not like some 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.840 young pup coming in here. And then yeah, he's got 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:21.920 a maturity about him. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.720 They asked him about because they asked him something and 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.880 he says, well, I've got patience. I had to wait, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.520 you know, wait for my chance. He goes, but I 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.400 had a he said, I had a gold board and 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.680 I had all these sticky notes on it, he goes. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:41.360 One of the sticky notes was play in sign a 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:45.080 contract in the NFL. And that's when he was going 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.480 through his three year deal, just trying to get back 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.800 in the game. And here he is today. How about this? 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.440 And I think this is indicative of just what happened yesterday. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.440 In the locker room opened at eleven o'clock. I left 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:04.600 there about out eleven thirty five. The guys talking were 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:10.000 Janier Thomas, Josh Butler, and Cavante Turpin. There was no 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.880 Dak Presscott Zeke and and by the way, CD it 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.280 was those three guys. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.800 But those are the guys we wanted to talk to. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.040 Yes, and those are the guys that marved that victory possible. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.200 Right And and I guarantee you Josh Butler didn't know 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:34.440 he was gonna start until probably Saturday. Diggs is questionable 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:39.600 with some I don't know what it was, growing hamstring whatever, 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.920 and then he doesn't even go to the game. When 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:46.640 you're questionable, you don't you don't stay home. And now 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:51.480 it's like, okay, you're up, you're starting, and I'm sure 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:57.840 Washington looked and go, huh, number thirty one's out there. Okay, 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.120 we're gonna throw at him. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.520 Game plan just scratch that. 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.320 And he should have had that interced he said. He said, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.680 I said, you wanted that interception. He goes, oh, man, 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.119 he goes, I had it. But the guy when he 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.119 put his hand up to try to catch it, it 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.320 went right in my face. And I couldn't see the 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:19.160 ball at the end. But he jumped that route, and 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.800 you know, his guy caught it. But there was no 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.719 mistakes like a mistackle or a miscoverage. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.320 That layed to bigger. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.480 Yeah, and he did his job, and it's a it's 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:31.600 a pretty neat story. 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.479 This game reminds me of I think it was nineteen 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:42.080 eighty seven Cowboys versus Cardinals in Texas Stadium, and we 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:48.080 had Steve Diassi playing outside linebacker right, the deep snapper 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.640 and middle linebacker. Yeah, I mean, quintessential middle linebacker. He's 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.480 that that fireplug, right, so you put him on the 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.479 outside now, and I think we had Jeff roh on 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:03.359 the other side, and the Cardinals needed the game to 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.680 make the playoffs, and I don't know what happened to us. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:07.200 That game. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.200 But we started playing our asses off, and those linebackers, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.639 that little crew that was just put together at the 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:20.920 last minute, they played so well and we beat them, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.000 and we knocked them out of the playoffs. I believe 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.520 that was nineteen eighty seven. And it was the feeling 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.520 is that you had no shot in the beginning, and 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.600 when you go into a game and you think everyone 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.480 says you have no shot, and then there's this feeling 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.880 that's in the huddle that was different from any other 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:40.639 feeling that you had in the other games that you 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.720 should have won that you lost. This one was, Oh hell, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.280 theosces in you know, Jeff Rosen, like, oh, what kind 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.520 of game plan can we come up with? And I 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.199 don't think their game plan mattered, you know, for some reason, 0:18:54.320 --> 0:19:00.080 the guys in that huddle played perfectly for what they 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.239 can do, and the cards couldn't get over. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.840 That's why I'm sure there's people out there going, well, 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.240 son of a gun, they just messed up a draft pick. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:11.000 Right. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.720 It's like, go tell those young guys in the locker 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:14.680 room though. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.840 Right, how do you play for a draft pick? I 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.919 don't know how you do that. If I'm on the 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.000 field as a player. Does this mean I make a. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.000 Play time people in the media? 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.720 Yeah, how do how do I do that? As a player? 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.160 Do I make this play? 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.120 You're sitting there going I got the opportunity of my life. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:34.919 Yeah, right, So do I go out there and not 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:35.360 may play? 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:36.440 I need a contract? 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.119 Is this rehearsal? You know? So? 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.160 Yeah, it's unbelievable to think that way that. Yeah, let's 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.320 just tank, right, yeah, go tell those guys that are 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.720 trying to make a career to go tank. Uh And 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.280 And I thought McCarthy was really good after the game 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.520 when he said this was this game he told them 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.360 this Saturday night, he goes, this game is about who 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.080 we have of playing, not about who we don't have played. 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:09.600 Because if you looked at that, oh my, you realize 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.440 the top five paid players did not play in that game. 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.040 And it's not just money, we're talking experience. You got 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:25.800 three guys Dak nine years, DeMarcus Lawrence eleven, Zach Martin eleven, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.560 Brandon Cooks eleven, and then Trayvon Diggs with his five. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.479 It's forty I think it was forty seven or fifty 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.040 some years of experience that was not in the game. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.080 And they played like that, so all the people out 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.960 there also that were, you know, banging the drum that 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.080 Washington's turned this thing around and they got it figured 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.600 out and they know how to run a franchise. Now 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.520 go go think about their A tip hail Mary from 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.000 being six and six right. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:59.880 Now and having lost four of the last five game, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:01.240 Yes for the Hill Mary. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:06.200 Well, I mean there were previous games where we had 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.760 a chance to do then what we did. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.840 And didn't make the play that they needed. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:16.000 To or made the mistake that you should not have made. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.360 And that's so I think about that that Cardinals game 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.000 and other games that I've seen and played in like that. 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.520 It didn't matter who was out there, the game plan 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.080 was put together perfectly, and the guys didn't make the 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:34.359 mistakes to lose the game themselves. And we've seen what 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.320 we could have done that I would say in the 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:41.080 last at least three out of five ball games that 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.280 we played, we could have realistically won three of those 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:46.760 last five five games. 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:51.119 Well, Baltimore three point loss, you were one down away 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.159 from getting the ball back down by three, and you 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.640 let them have the first down the Atlanta game they 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:01.200 were in, and and think about this, how they started 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:06.520 the game, blockfield goal, miss field goal off the right upright, which, 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.919 by the way, when he was warming up that direction, 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.320 I was watching and his ball was getting pushed to 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.720 the right, and he didn't compensate enough for the win 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.520