1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com. 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: And the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: We hadn't heard this in a while, You. 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 4: Mean we hadn't heard in a while. 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: We heard it Friday on a Monday. 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 4: Of course, we always play it Friday. It's fabulous fight 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: song Friday. We just haven't had a victory Monday for 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: a while. That's sad. Yeah, we were talking on her. 12 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: That's you count as to win. Don't you think? I 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: think the Cowboys won that game twice? 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: Maybe three times? 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: Well? Well, well a factory Monday. You're inside the s 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: w BC podcast studio and this is mix Shots brought 17 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: to you by Miller Lite. And Mickey already has his 18 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: nose to the grindstone because there's another game facing him 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: in three days. 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: Boy, that's gonna be quick, right, that's the Giants, But 21 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: we can talk about the Giants tomorrow. 22 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Commanders. Let's talk about what they 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: call Dallas week in DC. 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Boy, they spoil a lot of people's up coming Thanksgiving. 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you that although there was quite a few 26 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Cowboy fans in that stadium, and I was sitting there beforehand, 27 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: and when I'm thinking about all the people or all 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: the guys that weren't going to play, and I'm sitting there, 29 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: going all these poor people they and they were in 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: the lower bowl, right good seats with the yard line, 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: right behind the Cowboys bench, and I'm going, I wonder 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: how much they have to pay for those seats, And 33 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: now the Cowboys are going to go out there with 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: this team, and uh yeah, how wrong you could be. 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: I had a good time just watching it. I was, 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: I was downright giddy. I got admitted. I was in 37 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: the hotel room. It was time to check out, and 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't going anywhere. 39 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: You paid for a late checkout? 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 6: No, No, I knew the manager, so you know, I 41 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 6: forgot You're ever since Walter. 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 7: I must admit I a little lie. 43 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: I said that mister so and so said that I 44 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: was supposed to have a late checkout. 45 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 7: They believe me. It was easy. 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: You know what. 47 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: That's funny because my column that's going to go up 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: as soon as are out look starts working here again today, 49 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: I wrote, I said, you know, I know these people 50 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: in the stadium were probably coming out of their skin. 51 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: I said, but if you were watching that home, I 52 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: bet you got up off your pup and started dancing. 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: It was just unbelievable. Really, I don't think I've seen 54 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: a game like that. 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 5: Especially what say, the last minute forty. 56 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: Whatever, there were a total from the three oh two 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: mark on the last three minutes of the game there 58 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 4: were thirty one points scored. 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: It was three to three at halftime three three and 60 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: only because of a block field goal, a missfield goal. 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: Their missfield goal, Cowboys led twenty to nine with three 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: oh five left. With three two left, the Commanders scored 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: with then a two point conversion which made it twenty 64 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: to seventeen, so you'd add it up. Final score was 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: thirty four to twenty six. So the Commanders in the 66 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: last three o two scored seventeen points and the Cowboys 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: scored fourteen points. Thirty one points in three minutes. 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: So the Cowboys that ended up scoring two return touchdowns 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: yep for a total of twenty seconds. Turpins was thirteen 70 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: and one yea. Thomas oh Boy picked the click. 71 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: Man and it was Interpin's score came with two forty 72 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 4: nine left and one ye Thomas came with fourteen seconds left. 73 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: Which I'm sure everybody on the bench is yelly, go down, 74 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: go down? 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 8: What do you do? 76 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 4: Look on McCarthy's face. A TV shot to McCarthy and 77 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: he had this yes, and then oh what's he doing? 78 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: I even said it. I was what I was like, 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: I talked to myself in the press box and I'm 80 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: going go down. 81 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: How about the best three sixty return for a Testtown kid? 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: His unbelievable. 83 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: I mean that was the fastest three Yeah, I think 84 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 5: I've seen it. 85 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: Turned the game around basically, because you're sitting there at 86 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: twenty to seventeen with three h two left, and this 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: Dallas offense was going to have to do something Otherwise 88 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels in Washington was going to get another chance. 89 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: And I think they have the capability of throwing an 90 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: eighty six yard touchdown. 91 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 7: Faster Turpins on. 92 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: He's unbelievable, He's funny. 93 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: He's he talks a mile a minute. He talks faster 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: than he runs. 95 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 7: Head up after that. 96 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: Right, oh you should have seen it? 97 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: And on and someone said he's got a career as 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: an auctioneer. 99 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 7: I heard that on the ticket Saturday. That's so funny. 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: So when I asked him today, I said, do you 101 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: think he mishit the kick? Or did Can he not 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: get it to the end zone? And he goes, oh no, 103 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: he goes, I know that guy. I played against them. 104 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: At Oklahoma Austin Cybery. 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: He's a good kicker. They were trying to mess with me, 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, kicking it short line drive. 107 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 4: Special coach had tricks up his sleeve, as evidenced by 108 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: the block to field goal to start the game. And 109 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: then the Cowboys got his number later. 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: And he gets the ball and you know, and it's like, 111 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: so what do you see after you spin? And I go, 112 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: because you were going like very deliberately right, And he goes, 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: I was trying to see their angles, angles, angles. 114 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: He's so good at his craft. He's like a scientist 115 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: in the laboun he got. 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean I could see it because I could see 117 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: the whole field where we're at. You guys got TV. 118 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: But he he started going at the ten and when 119 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: he got to the fifteen, and one guy came with 120 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: a hand and just tapped him. I go, he's gone, Yeah, 121 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: and the and they're not going to catch him. 122 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: He reminded me of the whole premise of the forty 123 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 5: six defense bears right. No one could get by him 124 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: in the running game, but Tom Langer was always holding 125 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 5: that carried up and saying, but if you get by 126 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: that first wave right, you're gone. 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: Well that was the premise of this new kickoff a 128 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: little because they thought that if you can get by 129 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: the first wave, we got a chance. Exactly, big returns 130 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: because there's nobody behind but. 131 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: Everyone everyone can't make a three sixty move right right 132 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 5: to get by the way. 133 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 7: That's where the expertise goes. 134 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna try it now they're gonna get They're gonna. 135 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, oops oops oops, you know, because those were too. 136 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: Well, you're seeing that from Zeke. But it's at the 137 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: at the at the line of scrimmage because he can't 138 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: get past the life discribage, and so. 139 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: He does it three sixties swallowed up as soon as 140 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: he gets the ball. 141 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Everybody makes fun of him. Do they 142 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: watch the runs when he gets them? Of these, there's 143 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: no hole. It's not like he can't with Zeke. 144 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: It's as if okay, Zeke's in the game, they're going 145 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: to give him the ball. 146 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. But yeah. So so today they started asking him 147 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: about he wears glasses now Turken okay, and uh it 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: was like, well, he goes, well, I had trouble reading 149 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: and I couldn't see distance. And it's like, well, you 150 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: can see the football, okay, Oh yeah, I can see 151 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: the football. I just can't look across the locker room 152 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: and read those names. They're fuzzy. So I finally decided 153 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: to get glasses and I asked him, I said, could 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: you see the end zone? He said always? 155 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: So is he wearing contexts? 156 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: I believe, I believe so. Yeah, but he's got these 157 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: big I know. 158 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: It came out a couple of weeks ago. He had 159 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: gone the eye doctor. 160 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: And he didn't realize that. He said, I had trouble reading. 161 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: I remember when I was in fourth grade when I 162 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: got glasses for the first time, and I thought everyone 163 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: saw like that. In fact, Everson, I was the quarterback 164 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: for the nine and under Irving WYMCA Army and we 165 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: set a record by scoring no points the entire season. 166 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: I was the quarterback and I led our team to 167 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: zero points. I was the commander of the army, and 168 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 4: that's when we figured out that I needed glasses. I remember, 169 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: and I remember going to downtown Dallas. I was just 170 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: heaving the ball down field, and I remember going to 171 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: downtown Dallas get my new glasses and then put them on, 172 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: and it was like this whole world open up to me. Wow, 173 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: there's skyscrapers here, but that's Cavante Turpin. I mean, it's 174 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: amazing detail. You can see, you can others names on 175 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: the lockers across the way. 176 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 5: Well, as a kid, you know, I think it's different 177 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: from as a grown man to finally say wow, maybe 178 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: the ball looked better. 179 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 7: You can say everything much. 180 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: So what do you think of all these performances? That 181 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: and knowing what they didn't have on the field, which 182 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 3: was the most dramatic best. 183 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: I think when the score got to be twenties was 184 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 5: the twenty seventeen yep, that was Did you pick that? 185 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 7: No? 186 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: Okay? 187 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 5: I picked it after the field goal twenty seven twenty Yeah, 188 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 5: I to what you picked? 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 7: Okay? 190 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: And Donovan Wilson was my boy who happened to punch. 191 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: The ball out, Uh huh, yeah. 192 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: I was looking because he wasn't in coverage. 193 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: I was talking to nobody in the in the hotel 194 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 5: room like twenty seven twenty and then when he knocks 195 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: about like I started to text you guys. 196 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 6: I know every time I text. So yeah, just if 197 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 6: text you guys, Washington would have won. I was so 198 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 6: glad I didn't text. I almost said some of that. 199 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: It definitely makes a difference. It makes a difference where 200 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: you're sitting watching the game. It's so Josh Butler. 201 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: Yes, twelve tackles, three passes, broken up, a sack. I 202 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: believe he had maybe a tackle for a loss. It 203 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: just this guy was on the practice square. 204 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: You know why he had twelve tackles. 205 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, because they kept throwing at it, but 206 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: they didn't want to throw They didn't want to throw 207 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: it land right. 208 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: We talked about him in training camp. Yes, that's why 209 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to interview him, that the three million followers 210 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: on top need to go interview him. He was look 211 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: and and we did. We did a full blown story 212 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: on him. But so I watched him in training camp. 213 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 4: I said, this guy he's got something here. 214 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: He did I mean he I thought he was going 215 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: to make the team. Yeah, I was surprised they got 216 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: him on the practice squad. Right, Well, he just held 217 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: court today. It's his birthday, by the way. 218 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: Wow nice. 219 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: But he stood there and talked to the last person 220 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: that asked him a question, and it was me because 221 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: he looked at me and he goes, you got something. 222 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: I go, yeah, I said, what was the mindset going 223 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: into this game? When you had all these guys missing? 224 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: What were you thinking? He goes. All I know is 225 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: I've worked hard, I studied, I practiced. This was my opportunity. 226 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: He goes, and I have to take advantage everything I've 227 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: gone through to get to this point. He goes, I'm 228 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: not worrying about who's not there. I'm there and I 229 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: got to play. 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: You have been talking a loud about them, Bill Well, 231 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: I mean, once you dig into his story and realize. 232 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 4: But I first noticed him on the field. I to 233 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: think he had a pick in the first practice at 234 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: training camp or something of dak okay, and so that 235 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: caught my and then I'm starting and I knew that 236 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: they had signed him like a and he was in 237 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: camp last year and played in pre season games last year. 238 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: But once I but it was a late signing because 239 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: he had played in the USFL. So he wasn't here 240 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: during the off season, and but when and then you 241 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: get into the season and he's on the practice squad 242 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: and you don't pay attention to practice squad guys, and 243 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: so really digging in this year and then you read it. 244 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: You hear about his story and losing his parents when 245 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: he was in college at Michigan State and uh, and 246 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 4: then COVID hits, So he wasn't drafted, but he had 247 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: two degrees from Michigan State, including a master's degree, and 248 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: COVID hits, he doesn't get an opportunity and because there's 249 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: basically pro day got canceled or whatever, and so he's 250 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: got no chance to even and so then he goes 251 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: and makes something of himself, goes to Hollywood and his 252 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: entertainment career and starts up his you know, he's an 253 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: entrepreneurial spirit about him. But at the same time he's 254 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 4: still working out and stuff. And it's like three years 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: passed by, and then finally he gets a call from 256 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: the USFL Michigan Panthers in twenty twenty three. This is 257 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: like four years after he graduated from Michigan State, and hey, 258 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: we need you. Yeah, and so. 259 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: He hold it right there too, because they asked him, 260 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: how did the Michigan Panthers know about you? And he goes, 261 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: I got no idea. That's like, did you know somebody 262 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: there that you know, said hey, this guy can He goes, No, 263 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: he goes, they called me one night, and he goes 264 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: and thank god, I answered the phone, and they said 265 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: we'd like to sign you. And somebody said, did you 266 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: have an agent? He goes, I didn't have an agent 267 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: until last year. He goes. 268 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: I he was in California, and so he said, give 269 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: me two days. He drives to Michigan and plays for 270 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: the US and then the Cowboys because they scout the 271 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: USFL and then they give him a shot right before 272 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: training camp last year. And they liked enough about him. 273 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: They was on the practice squad all year out of 274 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: West Mesquite High School. 275 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 7: Here. 276 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, it's amazing story. Well, and he's you know, 277 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: so he's twenty seven years old. He's not like some 278 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: young pup coming in here. And then yeah, he's got 279 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: a maturity about him. 280 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: They asked him about because they asked him something and 281 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: he says, well, I've got patience. I had to wait, 282 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: you know, wait for my chance. He goes, but I 283 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: had a he said, I had a gold board and 284 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: I had all these sticky notes on it, he goes. 285 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: One of the sticky notes was play in sign a 286 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: contract in the NFL. And that's when he was going 287 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: through his three year deal, just trying to get back 288 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: in the game. And here he is today. How about this? 289 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: And I think this is indicative of just what happened yesterday. 290 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: In the locker room opened at eleven o'clock. I left 291 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: there about out eleven thirty five. The guys talking were 292 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: Janier Thomas, Josh Butler, and Cavante Turpin. There was no 293 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: Dak Presscott Zeke and and by the way, CD it 294 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: was those three guys. 295 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: But those are the guys we wanted to talk to. 296 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: Yes, and those are the guys that marved that victory possible. 297 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: Right And and I guarantee you Josh Butler didn't know 298 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: he was gonna start until probably Saturday. Diggs is questionable 299 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: with some I don't know what it was, growing hamstring whatever, 300 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: and then he doesn't even go to the game. When 301 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: you're questionable, you don't you don't stay home. And now 302 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, you're up, you're starting, and I'm sure 303 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: Washington looked and go, huh, number thirty one's out there. Okay, 304 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: we're gonna throw at him. 305 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 7: Game plan just scratch that. 306 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: And he should have had that interced he said. He said, 307 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: I said, you wanted that interception. He goes, oh, man, 308 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: he goes, I had it. But the guy when he 309 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: put his hand up to try to catch it, it 310 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: went right in my face. And I couldn't see the 311 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: ball at the end. But he jumped that route, and 312 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: you know, his guy caught it. But there was no 313 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 3: mistakes like a mistackle or a miscoverage. 314 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 7: That layed to bigger. 315 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he did his job, and it's a it's 316 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: a pretty neat story. 317 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 5: This game reminds me of I think it was nineteen 318 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: eighty seven Cowboys versus Cardinals in Texas Stadium, and we 319 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: had Steve Diassi playing outside linebacker right, the deep snapper 320 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 5: and middle linebacker. Yeah, I mean, quintessential middle linebacker. He's 321 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 5: that that fireplug, right, so you put him on the 322 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 5: outside now, and I think we had Jeff roh on 323 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: the other side, and the Cardinals needed the game to 324 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 5: make the playoffs, and I don't know what happened to us. 325 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 7: That game. 326 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 5: But we started playing our asses off, and those linebackers, 327 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 5: that little crew that was just put together at the 328 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 5: last minute, they played so well and we beat them, 329 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: and we knocked them out of the playoffs. I believe 330 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: that was nineteen eighty seven. And it was the feeling 331 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: is that you had no shot in the beginning, and 332 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 5: when you go into a game and you think everyone 333 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 5: says you have no shot, and then there's this feeling 334 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 5: that's in the huddle that was different from any other 335 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 5: feeling that you had in the other games that you 336 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: should have won that you lost. This one was, Oh hell, 337 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 5: theosces in you know, Jeff Rosen, like, oh, what kind 338 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: of game plan can we come up with? And I 339 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 5: don't think their game plan mattered, you know, for some reason, 340 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 5: the guys in that huddle played perfectly for what they 341 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 5: can do, and the cards couldn't get over. 342 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: That's why I'm sure there's people out there going, well, 343 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: son of a gun, they just messed up a draft pick. 344 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: Right. 345 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: It's like, go tell those young guys in the locker 346 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: room though. 347 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 7: Right, how do you play for a draft pick? I 348 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 7: don't know how you do that. If I'm on the 349 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 7: field as a player. Does this mean I make a. 350 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: Play time people in the media? 351 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, how do how do I do that? As a player? 352 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: Do I make this play? 353 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: You're sitting there going I got the opportunity of my life. 354 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, right, So do I go out there and not 355 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 7: may play? 356 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 3: I need a contract? 357 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 7: Is this rehearsal? You know? So? 358 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable to think that way that. Yeah, let's 359 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: just tank, right, yeah, go tell those guys that are 360 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: trying to make a career to go tank. Uh And 361 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: And I thought McCarthy was really good after the game 362 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: when he said this was this game he told them 363 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 3: this Saturday night, he goes, this game is about who 364 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: we have of playing, not about who we don't have played. 365 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: Because if you looked at that, oh my, you realize 366 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: the top five paid players did not play in that game. 367 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: And it's not just money, we're talking experience. You got 368 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: three guys Dak nine years, DeMarcus Lawrence eleven, Zach Martin eleven, 369 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks eleven, and then Trayvon Diggs with his five. 370 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 3: It's forty I think it was forty seven or fifty 371 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: some years of experience that was not in the game. 372 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: And they played like that, so all the people out 373 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: there also that were, you know, banging the drum that 374 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: Washington's turned this thing around and they got it figured 375 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: out and they know how to run a franchise. Now 376 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: go go think about their A tip hail Mary from 377 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: being six and six right. 378 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 4: Now and having lost four of the last five game, 379 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: Yes for the Hill Mary. 380 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 5: Well, I mean there were previous games where we had 381 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 5: a chance to do then what we did. 382 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: And didn't make the play that they needed. 383 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 7: To or made the mistake that you should not have made. 384 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 5: And that's so I think about that that Cardinals game 385 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 5: and other games that I've seen and played in like that. 386 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: It didn't matter who was out there, the game plan 387 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: was put together perfectly, and the guys didn't make the 388 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: mistakes to lose the game themselves. And we've seen what 389 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 5: we could have done that I would say in the 390 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 5: last at least three out of five ball games that 391 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: we played, we could have realistically won three of those 392 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: last five five games. 393 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: Well, Baltimore three point loss, you were one down away 394 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: from getting the ball back down by three, and you 395 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: let them have the first down the Atlanta game they 396 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: were in, and and think about this, how they started 397 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: the game, blockfield goal, miss field goal off the right upright, which, 398 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 3: by the way, when he was warming up that direction, 399 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: I was watching and his ball was getting pushed to 400 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: the right, and he didn't compensate enough for the win 401 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: that was up there that it didn't feel like he 402 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: knew I tell. 403 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: The way he was he should have gone. 404 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 9: He left. 405 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: He left the ball too far in the middle, playing 406 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: Milwaukie talkie in the back third. 407 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if you've noticed. 408 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: Third possession, Donald loses his first fumble of the year. 409 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: And then what happened the fifth possession, They had another 410 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: bonehead thing that took place, and it was like and 411 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 3: it's three three a half time, so uh, it was like, 412 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: there's this is what you expected, right, except for the 413 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: missed field goal, the block field goal, although you know now, 414 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure with the couple of the offensive linemen out 415 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: you had to re shuffle who was out there on 416 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: field goal block. Oh, I know what it was. It 417 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: was the block punt and you still win the game. 418 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: And then the sixth possession you were three and out punt, 419 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: and then finally the seventh possession, with fourteen seconds left 420 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: in the half, you had the forty one yard pass 421 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: the Jalen Brooks that put you in position for the 422 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: tying field goal. 423 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: Jalen Brooks too, by the way, Yeah right, another name. 424 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: All right, we're just getting started on this edition of 425 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 4: mix Shots, and happy twenty eighth birthday to Josh Butler. 426 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 4: In the break, I'm going to treat Everson and Mickey 427 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: to the hit from Josh Butler that's been posted that 428 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: three point three million subscribers are listening to today on TikTok. 429 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: That would be pretty Brown Skin by Josh Butler and 430 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: mix Shots continues now. 431 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: Sports Tours is the only official fan travel partner of 432 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages for 433 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: the pregame, sideline access and photo ops with current players, cheerleaders, 434 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: and Cowboy legends. 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But 482 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: before that, the Cowboys in the fourth quarter had kicked 483 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: a field goal. So in the entire fourth quarter, forty 484 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: one points were scored. Right, think about that. That's about 485 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: as bizarre as it comes. 486 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: It's I don't think I've seen the Cowboy game end 487 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 5: like this in a long time. 488 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever had a long time. So, Bill, 489 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: I think everybody must have been listening to our podcast. 490 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: So they picked up on the Steve burline. 491 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: Oh they did. 492 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard they said it on the TV broadcast. 493 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: I didn't hear it, So I did not they heard 494 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: it on the broadcast. 495 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 4: Maybe it was on the radio broadcast. Maybe I mentioned 496 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: it on our Cowboys game Day show on CBS yesterday, 497 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 4: and Babe Laffenberg was on the show. Now you weren't 498 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 4: here Friday, and so you didn't hear. I was talking 499 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: about the fact that in nineteen ninety one, a backup 500 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 4: quarterback went into Washington eventual Super Bowl champion Washington team 501 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: Cowboys were five and six at the time, six and five, 502 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: Fox and five and Apeman got hurt and Berlin game 503 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: of the third quarter, and so Steve Berlin comes off 504 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: the bench and leads them to a twenty four to 505 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 4: twenty one win. Yeah. And uh, you know, Berlin is 506 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: a radio analyst now on the Compass broadcast of Dallas 507 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: Cowboys games, and so he travels with the team. So 508 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 4: he was at the game yesterday. 509 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: So I saw him before before the game. He was 510 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 3: doing his homework and he said, uh, he said, somebody 511 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: just told me that it's to the day when I 512 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: came in for Troy and we won twenty four to 513 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: twenty one. I said, yeah, absolutely, babe, because I said 514 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: it on the Okay, maybe I said. 515 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 4: It on Thursday when you're here, Okay, it was. It 516 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: was November twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one. It was thirty 517 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: three years ago yesterday that Berlin led the Cowboys to 518 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: a win on the road at Washington, twenty four to 519 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: twenty one. And it's what it's pretty much the iconic, 520 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: uh footage of Michael's touchdown right the past to Berlin. 521 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: You see it on all the career highlights for Michael 522 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: Irvin where he makes the catch and. 523 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: Does a spinner round. Yeah, kind of a spinner round, 524 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: and that put him up twenty four Washington scored late 525 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: to make a twenty one. 526 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we found the CBS call of it, and it 527 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: was Summer All and Madden doing the game, and it 528 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: was typical Summer All. His call was Berline Irvin touchdown. 529 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: And so Troy got hurt early in I think it 530 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: was the first possession of this third quarter. But they 531 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: finished the half they called a Hail Mary, and I 532 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: remember Aikman talking about it afterwards. He goes, yeah, he goes, 533 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: they call the Hail Mary, and he goes, every time 534 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: they call the hill Mary, I get intercepted and he goes, 535 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: and it messes up my quarterback rating. So this time 536 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: they completed one. I think it was to Elvin Harper 537 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: to end the half, and he was thinking, Aha, the 538 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: worm's turning. 539 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: Was that the game they started the second half of 540 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: an on sidekick. Maybe it was a different game. 541 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: It was, No, it was that. I don't know if 542 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: if they started that, I think I think this, but 543 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: they had one, yeah for sure, because that was the one. 544 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: Jimmy got in the locker room afterwards and he and 545 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: he basically said, you know, if you're gonna if if 546 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: you're you're gonna get in a fight with a gorilla. 547 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: You better carry a big stick. He was trying to 548 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: do the Teddy Roosevelt you know deal that. 549 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: He doesn't walk softly. 550 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: Car he said, he grabbed sick and he goes, Yeah, 551 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: if you're gonna hit this guy, you don't just tap him. 552 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: You gotta slug him. 553 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: I mean, but you look back at the Cowboys nineties 554 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: teams and okay, they were hovering around five hundred, and 555 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: they go in there and Apeman gets hurt. Berline comes 556 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: in and they win that game. And they rattled off 557 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: five straight wins and made the playoffs and beat Chicago 558 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 4: in the playoffs and then lost to Detroit in the 559 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: second round. So and then the next year, of course, 560 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. 561 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: Think about this. 562 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: That's why they questioned should Bowline have come back Troy. 563 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: In that Detroit game? 564 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: And he was mad because they didn't start him and 565 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: they didn't think he was healthy enough, and then they 566 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: brought him in late in the second quarter and it 567 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: was too late. Uh, think about this. Backup quarterbacks for 568 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. You heard of Clint Longley, Yeah, Washington nineteen 569 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: eighty nine, the only win of the season. Steve Walsh, 570 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah again, Berline against Doug Doug Williams who was coming 571 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: back from injury, and he should have never. 572 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 4: And it was a path you got, Doug, I got that. 573 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 7: It was a tip pass. 574 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: Was three thirteen six seven. 575 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 576 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: Have you ever mentioned that to him before? 577 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 7: Oh? 578 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, since then? Do you ever mention it that in 579 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine? Well, no, we've got too much respectful. 580 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: Well, no, he's got his pial is a little bit. 581 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: So I'm still trying to go up. I'm sorry here 582 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: we are. 583 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: Remember that one time I got you. 584 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: Exactly you know what. And then so that was the 585 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: only win of the season, and it was for some reason, 586 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: it was a Sunday night game. So we're all on 587 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: deadline right trying to of course they win that game. 588 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: And then in uh the and then ninety one it happened. 589 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: Uh and now this, I mean I remember talking to somebody. 590 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: We were in Georgetown before a Cowboy Washington game, and 591 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: some guy started talking. He was a big Redskins fan, 592 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, he goes that, Damn Clint 593 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: Long ruined my Thanksgiving. He said, I was still sick 594 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: to my stomach. I couldn't eat my turkey. But yeah, 595 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: back Cowboys backup quarterbacks against against Washington and now this one, 596 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: it's it's quite a legacy. 597 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: Well, you're going back in time to that nineteen ninety 598 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: one game. 599 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, the ninety one game, let me 600 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: add this had had the Cowboys not beaten Washington, they 601 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: were going to go undefeated because the only other game 602 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: they lost I think was at the end of the 603 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: season when they didn't need to win and they wanted 604 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: to keep everybody healthy, and I think they got beat 605 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: like he was the second to the last or last 606 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: game of this They only lost two games that year 607 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: if I remember correctly, but they were undefeated going into 608 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: that game. 609 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: Well, maybe this will rekindle the rivalry. This this goes 610 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 4: into a an era that you know, the Cowboys have 611 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: now won six of the last seven against Washington. But 612 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: now that they've got Jaden Daniels and with Dan Quinn 613 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 4: over there, right, maybe because it's been a long spell 614 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: now since the Dallas Washington rivalry was really much of 615 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 4: a rivalry, really not the storied rivalry. 616 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: It's been not the one that we wrote a book about. 617 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe this will we'll set it off again. 618 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: Well, the fact that they've got Dante Fowler and Armstrong 619 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: and Beadish on the team. So I'm sure those guys 620 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: were the first time they got a chance to tackle 621 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: some of their teammates or former teammates. I should say, 622 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 3: we have a stalker outside Nathan Naan Frisco, just dying 623 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: to come in. Well, you know what, you know when 624 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 3: we did the picks to click, His pick to click 625 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: was time of possession a try at the end of 626 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: that exactly at the end of the first half. The 627 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 3: Cowboys know, at the end of the game, the Cowboys 628 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: had the ball thirty five twelve to twenty four forty eight. 629 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 3: How about that? 630 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 5: You know that Natives, he's something else. 631 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 4: Herry is stute, and. 632 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: That's a good word. 633 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 7: That's a good word. 634 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: He's at the end of the half. I remember looking 635 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: it up just because I remember him saying that Cowboys 636 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: had the ball eighteen o seven and the Commander's eleven 637 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: fifty three only eleven minutes fifty three seconds. 638 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 7: Oh we gohadle game. 639 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: This guy's somebody asked me about it. 640 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 7: Really good. It's like really good. 641 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 3: I was running with his hair on, fire. 642 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 7: Man, that's all the time. That's all the time. 643 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: He was running like a tush push without. 644 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: The push if you if you just give him a sliver, 645 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 5: just give me some air, he's gonna try to split it. 646 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: Well, you're talking about Josh Butler. How about the guards. Yes, 647 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 4: I mean you're playing without your perennial pro bowler Zach 648 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: Martin and another pro bowler and Tyler Smith, and you 649 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 4: got TJ. Bass and under grafted guy at right guard 650 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: and at left guard you got Hoffman. 651 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 3: And go further. 652 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 4: First Bass was on the left. 653 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: Side side, and then they brought in awesome Richards several times, 654 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: which they should have just left him in there. 655 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: We're trying to keep it positive. 656 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, and you had a rookie at center, so 657 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 3: you had four guys in there, and it's like, are 658 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: you kidding me? And I think they only gave up. 659 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: Do you get sacked once? How many sacks they have? 660 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: And it was a give up, But it was a 661 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 4: give up at the end of the game when you're 662 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 4: killing the clock. 663 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: Was that they didn't give them a sack on that, 664 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: did they? 665 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 4: I believe? 666 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 3: So it was drawn pain. I think it was anyway 667 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: they I thought young guys did a did a heck 668 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 3: of a job. 669 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 5: Well, I mean when when when you hear about what 670 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 5: Nate says talk about time of possession. The simplest of 671 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 5: it is games being won in the trenches, right, That's 672 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 5: just what it all comes down to. Who's gonna have 673 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 5: who's going to be able to sustain drives the most? 674 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 5: And with the amount of points that we had, especially 675 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 5: with the special teams play, that really gives you a 676 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 5: way to breathe, you know, it gives you a chance 677 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 5: to not go so deep into your playbook, right, as 678 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 5: long as you're moving the ball the way we were 679 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 5: moving the ball. 680 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 3: You know, the other guy that played his butt off 681 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: Ceede Lamb, and it wasn't his ten catches what he 682 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: was trying to do after the catch, large. 683 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 5: Change they were because they would double team almost every time, 684 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 5: so they may I don't know how the adjustment they made, 685 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 5: but instead of going into the teeth of it, they 686 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 5: seem to just hook him up to where he can 687 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 5: get a chance to make make a play or make 688 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 5: the catch and make a play afterwards, which is exactly 689 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 5: what happened. 690 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: Right. 691 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 4: Cool, we'll continue that thought when we return. And I 692 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 4: did confirm the sack was on the give up play 693 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: at the end. Yes, they created the Duran Pain with 694 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 4: a sack on the with the less than two minutes 695 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: left in the game for Rush was just killing clock, 696 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 4: all right, more mix shots in a moment. 697 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 8: Hey, y'all, Matt Pittman of Meat Church here. With football 698 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 8: season kicking off, I'm already gear enough to bring the 699 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 8: smoker back to AT and T Stadium for some epic tailgates. 700 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 8: But with that Texas heat, it's crucial to keep my 701 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 8: beer hand cramping cold. 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After a big Cowboys win in Washington, 744 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 4: Mickey is studying the play by play of the game 745 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 4: or something else he wants to cite that happened in 746 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 4: the game. 747 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: They credited Clark and Vigil for that tax. 748 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was special teams assisted tackles. 749 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: It was kind of It was kind of scary though 750 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 3: because it was It was because he didn't see it. 751 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: He came on. 752 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 5: Is that because he seemed like it just he hit 753 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 5: a wall and he went down immediately immediately. 754 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 3: Nine seconds to play. I'm surprised I didn't review that 755 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 3: play by the way. 756 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was well, they thought they did. During the 757 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 4: the ball I. 758 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 7: Thought, oh yeah, they came out with it. 759 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 4: It was such a long delay that I'm sure, the 760 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: replay assist looked at it and they decided against it, 761 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: I guess. But because it was the final second, so 762 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 4: it was under Yeah, but you can challenge or anything, 763 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: so them. 764 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 3: To throw a hell Mary. 765 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so they must have. They must have decided 766 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: it was inconclusive when the ball had come out and 767 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 4: when he was down or something. I don't know, but 768 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 4: all right, anything else that you would this is weird. 769 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 3: So on the on the hail Mary interception by Mukuamu, 770 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: they got in parentheses here. 771 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 7: Oh I know. 772 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: They gave him a pressure o'diggy zooa knocked the hell 773 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 3: out of Daniels. They rushed, Yeah, they didn't like just 774 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 3: send three guys. They were like, we're coming after you. 775 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 7: By the way. 776 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 4: Speaking of Odiga Zua, seventy defensive snaps yesterday and he 777 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: was in on sixty four of them, sixty four snaps. 778 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 3: And that's two games in a row. 779 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 4: Fifty seven. He was fifty seven of the sixty four 780 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 4: snaps Monday night and then sixty four of the seventy snaps. 781 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 4: Goldston was on in on sixty one snaps on Monday 782 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 4: night and fifty six snaps this game. When you look 783 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 4: at players that this team can least afford to lose, 784 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 4: as thin as they are at defensive tackle. Osa would be. 785 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: One that, Wow, he always has, he always did. 786 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 4: Mozzi had thirty four snaps, Limbelle Joseph had four snaps, 787 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 4: and Carlos Watkins had six. 788 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: They've basically given up on those guys. 789 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 4: Marshaw Neeland had nineteen snaps. So it was good to 790 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 4: getting him back, Yes, but especially Osa. I mean what 791 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 4: he means to where this team is right now, Well, 792 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 4: you cannot lose him. 793 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 7: He was just in the way, all right. 794 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 5: Just you love that you went to defensive tackle on 795 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 5: those going to be in the way, all. 796 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 4: Right, and they don't have anybody to put in there, 797 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 4: no that can make anywhere near the impact. 798 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 3: And they finally shedded Jordan Phillips who was doing nothing. See, 799 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 3: they took chances on all these marginal veteran guys and 800 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: really got nothing on it. 801 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was kind of excited when they signed those 802 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 5: two guys this offseason. 803 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 4: Their names, I'm like, oh, okay, here we go and 804 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 4: well and the other part of that it was they did. 805 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 4: It wasn't in the off season. It was during training 806 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: camp before they acquired them, and it was like that 807 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 4: was the strategy going in, We're not paying high dollar 808 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 4: during unrestricted and we're not. And the other part of 809 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 4: it is the compensatory picks that they get for not 810 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 4: signing guys an unrestricted free agency for next year's draft. 811 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 4: That's why they waited until that was up before signing 812 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 4: Zeke Okay. And then Kendricks was not an unrestricted free agent. 813 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 4: He was a loan other free veteran free agent that 814 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 4: they signed, So they waited until all that passed, and 815 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 4: they waited basically until training camp to acquire those guys. 816 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 4: And I think McCarthy talked about it that he wants 817 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 4: to have his guys in here throughout the whole off 818 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 4: season program. But that's where this team was. That's where 819 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 4: this team was this off season where they decided to 820 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 4: go that route instead and give a shot to the 821 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 4: young guys. And there weren't young guys. 822 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 3: So two to nine Giants. Next, we'll talk about. 823 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 4: A Giants team that Malink Neighbors was saying some things 824 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 4: after the game yesterday and then they did not show 825 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 4: up for their game against Tampa Bay yesterday basically, and 826 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 4: it was Tommy Devido at quarterback but it was like 827 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 4: the front office and a message last week that when 828 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 4: they released Daniel Jones, and the team sent a message 829 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 4: back yesterday. So it's going to be very interesting to 830 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 4: see what kind of team shows up on Thursday. 831 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 3: And did I hear they? What was the score? 832 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 7: Like? 833 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 3: Thirty something? 834 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 4: Thirty to seven was the final score? 835 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 3: The touchdown right at the end? 836 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Tampa Bay was up thirty so they were. 837 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 3: Getting shut out. Yeah, and you know, Tommy the. 838 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 5: Second fans look at that as an insult, right you, 839 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 5: I would rather you not score. 840 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 4: Well, there was some question on DeVito too, he entered 841 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 4: his shoulder, but apparently Brian Able today said that he 842 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 4: believes that the Vito will be able to go on Thursday, 843 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 4: although he hadn't talked to the training sor where's Taylor 844 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 4: when you need him? 845 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: They got Drew Locke what more than they need? 846 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 4: And they signed Tim Boyle also they signed last week 847 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 4: to the practice squad when they and then they let 848 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones go. And by the way, Waivers is up 849 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 4: on him at three o'clock today, so he's going to 850 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: pick him up, won't They won't pick him up, and 851 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 4: they won't pick him up off waivers sign in San Francisco. 852 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 4: I predict San Francisco is that team that will. 853 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 3: Because they wants to go a playoff team. Guys, just 854 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 3: let you on them. They start did Allen San Francis. 855 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 4: They started Brandon Allen because Brock parties. Let's go to 856 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 4: Oh I got it, I got it, No one got it. 857 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 3: But it's okay. 858 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 4: San Francisco, by the way, just one game ahead of 859 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. Record wise, they're five and six and they 860 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 4: play at Buffalo this week. So if Dallas beats the 861 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 4: Giants and San Francisco lives the same record, they will 862 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 4: have the same record five and seven. 863 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 7: Seven teams. You just want to do badly. 864 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know, let me play this game with you. 865 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 3: How about there's a report out there they're thinking about 866 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 3: putting McCaffrey on IR. 867 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 7: That's all that. 868 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 3: The Cowboys are only in the lost column, two games 869 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 3: behind Washington. 870 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 4: Have you looked at the schedule, Mickey, Yes, I have, 871 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 4: could be could be five and seven on Thursday, I have. 872 00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 4: Then Cincinnati is here for a Monday night six and seven, 873 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 4: then at Carolina seven and seven. Then Baker comes here 874 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 4: for Christmas. The twenty second of December pull out that one. 875 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 4: You're eight and seven and you've got Philadelphia to Washington 876 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 4: last two games. 877 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, and Washington's got to play the Cowboys and Philadelphia 878 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 3: the second time. Still, and somebody maybe I heard I 879 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 3: turned on NFL radio when I was coming in. Somebody 880 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 3: pointed out that right now, Washington's got the last uh 881 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 3: wild cards if it ended today, and they pointed out 882 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 3: the Cowboys were only two games behind them in Washington 883 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 3: win or the lost. 884 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 4: Comment, Yeah, they've got they still got a bi week left. Yeah, 885 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 4: and so they are what seven and five now? 886 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 3: Yes, the Cowboys are four and seven. 887 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 4: Yes, and h they played Tennessee this week, but the 888 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 4: Titans just beat the They went into Houston and beat 889 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 4: the Texas. 890 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 891 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 4: And then they are at the Saints and the Saints 892 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 4: are resurgent now and then they got the Philly Atlanta 893 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys. They may not win another get no, 894 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 4: I'm kidding. All right, that does it for mixed shots 895 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: on a Monday. And natean Frisco just camp wait. 896 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 3: Get it better, keeps hovering, pulled off on flexing that 897 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 3: last game of the season. 898 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 4: There you go, all right. Message to the NFL from 899 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 4: Mickey Spagnola. All right, have a great rest of your 900 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 4: victory Monday, and we will shout at you again tomorrow 901 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 4: at noon. 902 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 7: Go Cowboys. 903 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 904 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.