WEBVTT - Mark Willingham Full Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Now my next guest. He's been a whole He called

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<v Speaker 1>in early, then we dropped him nights back. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought I was a model one time in

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<v Speaker 1>my early years. You know, I was ever any man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I had it going on with this man here.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably tell me right now I don't have it going

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<v Speaker 1>on when he guess what he's a guest on Money

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<v Speaker 1>Making Conversation. He's revolutionizing the beauty and fastened industry by

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<v Speaker 1>protecting models from abuse and harassment with his new platform,

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<v Speaker 1>Agent Inc. Agent Nique has already signed over twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>working models in less than six months. The goal of

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<v Speaker 1>Agent Ink is to empower models to grow and manage

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<v Speaker 1>their career, while providing companies were an easy way to

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<v Speaker 1>search for models using granular filters. Please work on the

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<v Speaker 1>money making conversations. The CEO of Agent Ink, Mark willia Ham.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, restaurant. Thank you for having me. Mark, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited about having you on the show. First because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not entrepreneur, but also you're doing you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to protect people. You're trying to because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of manipulative people out there, especially predators out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and people who will put you in the situation that's

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<v Speaker 1>not favorable to your safety, not favorable to you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build your brand, your career. So tell us why

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<v Speaker 1>you started. I'm just telling why I love the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us what got you started and and creating this app. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as you just mentioned, the the bwing industry,

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<v Speaker 1>just like pretty much any of the industries that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the entertainment chapter are really like based on dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people have a dream, they go and they

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<v Speaker 1>chase it, right, I mean, and and they put it

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<v Speaker 1>all out there. Whether you want to be an actor

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<v Speaker 1>or what you want to be a musician, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a model and you chase that dream and

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<v Speaker 1>you're it's tough. It's a tough road. Anyone who's been

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment knows that. You know, for every success, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand failures, and that for that creates an environment that's

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<v Speaker 1>right for people to take advantage of these people wherever

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<v Speaker 1>there's a power structure that allows for someone to coerce

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<v Speaker 1>or get someone to do something because they're chasing that

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<v Speaker 1>dream um and oftentimes they're not even quite sure at

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<v Speaker 1>that point what is but they're supposed to do or

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<v Speaker 1>what they're not supposed to do. So when someone who has,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a powermaker in that industry says, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>need you to do this, they sit there and they go, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I not? They don't know where to turn,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a support system with them. And we said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to change that. And we're not only going

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<v Speaker 1>to change it for those reasons, We're you change for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons. So you think about it. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about modelling. You know, if we think about you know, Gezel,

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<v Speaker 1>we think out on Greenalinema, we think about all these

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<v Speaker 1>big models out there, um and and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't think about the hundred thousand others they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing the majority of the work, and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>they're not the ones that it's like the top actor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a there's thousands of others and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all working actors, and there's so these are working models.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem with the mauling industry is it is

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<v Speaker 1>about modeling, yet the models have become secondary to their

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<v Speaker 1>own industry. They're they're sitting on the purple edge. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got like an agency, like a traditional agency

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<v Speaker 1>or an agent who's negotiating everything on their behalf, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>in their best interests, but many times not in the

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<v Speaker 1>malle's best interest um with the client that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>book them, and the model just sits on the side

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<v Speaker 1>because inside the contract with the agency that says they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to handle it for him, and they just sit

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<v Speaker 1>around there and hope that this stuff is happening correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the wall is pretty much relinquishing the control

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<v Speaker 1>over his O career to the agent. And the model

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't set their rates, they don't have a say on

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<v Speaker 1>whether they get the job or to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>in the negotiation process and we'll say we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>change all of that. We're gonna put the models in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of their universe as they should be. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna empower them, We're going to give them the tools

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<v Speaker 1>to guide their own careers. We aren't even going to

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<v Speaker 1>require them to have contracts with us. They're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>with us because they want to be with us. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a novel idea, right, That's that's the way I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I like it. Isn't that like the way

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<v Speaker 1>of like That's I mean, truly, it's like the American way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it's supposed to be. All these contracts come

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<v Speaker 1>into place and all of a sudden in handcuffs basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't even know what they're signing half the

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<v Speaker 1>time because it's like and we're like, no, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. They're gonna be with us because they

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<v Speaker 1>want to be with us. Quite frankly, we don't even

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<v Speaker 1>care if there with a traditional agency. That doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>to us. When you are going to be that foundation

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<v Speaker 1>for every model, that that uh stability for the first

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<v Speaker 1>day of modeling to the last day of modeling for

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<v Speaker 1>every single model, and we're the people they can turn

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<v Speaker 1>to we're the ones that have their back. We do

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<v Speaker 1>things crazy, weird um from the standpoint of disruption. So

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<v Speaker 1>we we do this weird thing called back contexts on

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<v Speaker 1>every single client. Uh not, so we really need that.

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<v Speaker 1>We do criminal we do sex offender checks, We do

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<v Speaker 1>a ID verification, we do a verification of needs to

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<v Speaker 1>they actually need a higher LEDEL. I mean someone's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what they're who is this person and why

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<v Speaker 1>they need to hire a model and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>So the clients actually have to apply just like the

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<v Speaker 1>models need to apply. And we want to create the

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<v Speaker 1>safest environment for models in the world. As you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the way over twenty thousand registered models already. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. Mark. I can't let you just say twin

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<v Speaker 1>need because I you know, that means that this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is resonating with with with the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a need. And that's why I can't

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<v Speaker 1>let you just go twenty thousand. No, No, that's in

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<v Speaker 1>it because we know how all it is the lunch

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<v Speaker 1>launch an app and then also to create a trust

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<v Speaker 1>to the environment, and that's what you're doing. You're creating

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<v Speaker 1>a trust to the environment with agent Ink. That's the app.

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<v Speaker 1>You can download it Google Play Store, Apple Store is

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<v Speaker 1>available on all the platforms. When we come back, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk a little bit more about you and

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<v Speaker 1>the career you're trying to set the standards that you're setting,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have some personal stories because I've represented models

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I love this idea and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>champion this idea, and you have a fan in need Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be back and hear more marked story. Agent

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<v Speaker 1>Eek on the phone is the CEO of Agent Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan of this. Can I share a quick

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<v Speaker 1>story what you're mark about my experience as UH a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who represented UH models in the industry, UH early

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<v Speaker 1>on in the early two thousands, UH representing several models.

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<v Speaker 1>They were video models and UH so videos are really

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<v Speaker 1>popular and especially in the urban industry UH and BT.

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<v Speaker 1>You could always just turn on BT and to see

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<v Speaker 1>UH how dominant their video models were. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>get on set, they had no dressing rooms, they had

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<v Speaker 1>no they had they generally had no food. UH. They

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<v Speaker 1>and IOU was always have to go to set with

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<v Speaker 1>my clients to make sure they were treated with respect.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get there, you basically had the state

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<v Speaker 1>till the shoot was over with. There was no time window.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was not a comfortable environment. And plus a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times the women will have on bikinis, so

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<v Speaker 1>they will be dressed with a limited amount of clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes these video shoots are at night and it can

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<v Speaker 1>be cold. So I am really champion. I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard these type of stories before. That's why you started

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<v Speaker 1>this app. But this is the reality of why it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to understand why Mark app is blowing up, why

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<v Speaker 1>it's needed because as a professional, and I consider myself

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top managers in the business, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to walk my clients and feel I had to protect

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<v Speaker 1>them not only from the environment, but of certain situations

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<v Speaker 1>so they will come home and safe because they can

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<v Speaker 1>get bad out there. Correct, Mark, that is absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Your story is is pretty much the norm I which

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<v Speaker 1>it was not, and that's what we're out the change

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<v Speaker 1>and E nailed that. I mean we we we looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the big picture of this industry and we said, no, fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot of great industries out in

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<v Speaker 1>the industries one of them, but I think because of

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<v Speaker 1>all the the hype and excitement and all the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>sides of it. People don't realize what's really happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hate heye said. I mean we started this. We

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<v Speaker 1>started the company actually over two years ago. We launched

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<v Speaker 1>just you know this year, and we did this with

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<v Speaker 1>these the intent of making it better for both the

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<v Speaker 1>clients and the models. So this isn't really a two

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<v Speaker 1>sided thing. We said, let's look at the entire industry

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<v Speaker 1>that we put on the whiteboard. How would we redesigning

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<v Speaker 1>industry today and not just try to put bandies on

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<v Speaker 1>a ship that has a whole lot of holes in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we kind of reimagine the industry and we said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if we weren't support foundation, we could provide value to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just to the models. Although without the

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<v Speaker 1>models being you know, in the right mindset and having

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<v Speaker 1>support and and being safe, then everything starts to fall apart.

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<v Speaker 1>And we definitely, you know, came in there with that focus.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we we even you can probably know this

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<v Speaker 1>as well too. Models. A lot of people would I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe this when I tell them that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional payment cycle for a model after job is thirty days,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty sometimes ninety and even sometimes this far out as

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and eighty days after the job they get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw a contract recently where where the model

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<v Speaker 1>showed me with a traditional agency that said, in bold letters,

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<v Speaker 1>all caps, you will be the last to be paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not keep asking for teaming. You will get paid,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are the low inline. And I'm like, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the modeling industry and the models of the reason the

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<v Speaker 1>jobs are happening. And yet the models the lost when

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<v Speaker 1>to be paid. And we said, no, that's gonna stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And we pay the models the same day as the shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we just said everything, we wrote everything out

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<v Speaker 1>and we just said we're changing at all. We we

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<v Speaker 1>do seven customers assistance. We have a button called agent

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<v Speaker 1>Assist in our app. If the model needs anything, we're there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're there. Um, we give a guarantee to the clients

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<v Speaker 1>whoever did that modeling. I mean, we say you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be you're gonna love what we're doing, or don't use

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<v Speaker 1>this again, and we're gonna give your money back. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're standing behind us and we can't do it alone

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<v Speaker 1>to the models. You know, you said, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you brought that up because You're right, quite rank thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is not a trivial feed to get twenty

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<v Speaker 1>tho models and a few you know, and so many

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<v Speaker 1>months to write to sir, and you know people are

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<v Speaker 1>from everyone, whether it's an interview or from an investor.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you guys do that? And I said, by

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<v Speaker 1>by offering something that everyone wants, that they need, that

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<v Speaker 1>they aspire, that is going to support them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, it's kind of like putting water in

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<v Speaker 1>the desert. Everyone's going to come to the water because

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<v Speaker 1>you need it. And and we're providing something and they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling they're telling everyone this is what we don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>a good current industry. We don't feel supported, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel safe. And when someone comes up and gives them

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<v Speaker 1>a solution, um, they all want to be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just playing everybody highs and broken down? It's broken down

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<v Speaker 1>by age? Is it broken down by body type? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it broken browns? Because you have different levels of model.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna actually models, but that print model, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have hand models, you can have foot models. You know

0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.480
<v Speaker 1>what they call parts modeling. So how does house the

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<v Speaker 1>apple can down? So we can just give people a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of if they have children who want to be

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<v Speaker 1>all part of the app or that limited do their

0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.360
<v Speaker 1>parents have to have the co sign on that and

0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.520
<v Speaker 1>put release forms break down to everybody who doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the app in front of them here and this for

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<v Speaker 1>the first half so they can get excited about the process. Sure. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all with with the agent, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know there is not that's with our company agents. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be eighteen or And the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>that is we just know that when you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>under eighteen, someone has to be there with them. They

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<v Speaker 1>should be there, They should not be going to jobs

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<v Speaker 1>on their own. And we don't want we can't really

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<v Speaker 1>control that element, so we focus on eighteen years old

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<v Speaker 1>and older. And we are about optionte diversity. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a changing world one not only because it's changing,

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<v Speaker 1>but because it should change, and we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be we want to be one of the forces behind

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<v Speaker 1>change and people really being accepting of more diversity UM

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<v Speaker 1>in the lolling industry. And that's whether it be plus

0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.800
<v Speaker 1>size models or or you know, someone said, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the criteria because the other reality, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't like to hear, but everyone is not a

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<v Speaker 1>model and it's just like, I am not going to

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<v Speaker 1>play basketball for for you know, uh, just the Rockets

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<v Speaker 1>or for the Gallas play I mean it's a Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just not gonna happen. To agree it and

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<v Speaker 1>I can be changed that dreams from the time on three.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not tall enough and I'm not good enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if I want it, it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the unfortunate. But we all need to find the

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<v Speaker 1>things that were great at and pursue those. And everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>not a model, and our criteria is very simple. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we believe someone would book them? We don't go through

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<v Speaker 1>this all this, you know, it's like and it could

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<v Speaker 1>be charisma, could be that smile, could be their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>We have models who have padded sleeves on both both

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<v Speaker 1>arms and down their neck, and we we are there's

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<v Speaker 1>no judgmental part of this. It is a business, and

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<v Speaker 1>we also want the models to able to get to work,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want the clients, especially the ones with the

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<v Speaker 1>progressive mindsets. I mean, in in a few years, that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if the banks, the traditional banks aren't hiring

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<v Speaker 1>models that resonate with the linnials, they're gonna lose their

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<v Speaker 1>entire customers marching customer base. So we we're providing that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're providing the opportunity for the models, and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, you know, the clients

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<v Speaker 1>are much better off of what we're doing when we

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<v Speaker 1>charged less. We charged seventy less to the clients than

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<v Speaker 1>a traditional agency for our fees, So it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>massive discount. We guarantee it. Plus we're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of companies are out there here every day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's you know, in the morning news

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<v Speaker 1>or labrary TV uh eight times late night TV shows,

0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 1>companies out there talking about them taking a stance, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of me too, whether it's because you know

0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.880
<v Speaker 1>hertling put everything on the map, or they just have

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<v Speaker 1>these you know, a philosophy in their company that they

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<v Speaker 1>are about the quality, about empowerment and all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we're doing. So my challenge to these

0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:22.840
<v Speaker 1>companies is talking is easier than walking. I gotta tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this, man, I'm very impressed. Uh do me a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you to do me a favor. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to support you. I want to get banners

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<v Speaker 1>to put on all my social media and uh well

0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.280
<v Speaker 1>almost a million followers on all my platforms. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to support you because I've been there, I've represented models,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know the dark side of this industry. And

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<v Speaker 1>hear you talk, I gotta support you because they are

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<v Speaker 1>young women out there, young men too. We can't leave.

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<v Speaker 1>We can say it's just one side being affected by this.

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<v Speaker 1>But no mark that I'm a fan of Agent Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>just just just going to understand it, get educated about it.

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