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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of car Stories with Kay

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Speaker 1: and Amelia Hartford. Do you believe in ghosts?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 1: That was a very confident Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't until I spent time in Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: Hawaii. Yeah, did you see a ghost?

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Speaker 3: I didn't see, I felt. So I was up in

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Speaker 3: North Shore working on this film and Turtle Bay Hotel.

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Speaker 3: The story or the rumor is that it's built on top.

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Speaker 1: Of a cemetery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cemetery, right, so there are these ghosts like walking

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Speaker 3: around the property and I was like I heard that,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, whatever, ghost come on coasts. Yeah, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 3: So I go to sleep. We were shooting at Turtle Bay,

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Speaker 3: so we were staying there and I was on the

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Speaker 3: I think that it was like the third floor, the

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Speaker 3: top floor of the hotel, right, so like there's either

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Speaker 3: two or three stories, so at the top of the

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Speaker 3: hotel and the view is like of the water, and

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Speaker 3: you know, like when you wake up and you're just

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Speaker 3: kind of still laying there so you're not asleep. Like

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Speaker 3: I woke up and I'm under the covers because I

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Speaker 3: heard these footsteps of like a little kid running across

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Speaker 3: the room and the carpet was like you know this

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Speaker 3: you could the thumb being right, yeah, the pitter patter right,

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Speaker 3: And I hear this, and all of a sudden, whoever's

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Speaker 3: bed right bumps into it. And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is probably one of the cast mates like playing

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Speaker 3: a practical joke on me or something, or they maybe

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Speaker 3: they snuck into the room. But I remember I locked

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Speaker 3: the door and I was like, maybe they snuck into

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Speaker 3: all these scenarios in my head and I hear the

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Speaker 3: pitter patter like three times, right, and then I'm like,

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Speaker 3: all right, one to three nights.

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Speaker 2: Wah.

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Speaker 3: Like I was like a scare whoever's in the room right,

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Speaker 3: and it's empty room, and I'm like, nah, this is

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Speaker 3: that's so strange because I felt the bump on the

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Speaker 3: real way that you're gonna like, you know, climb into

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Speaker 3: and I check the door. It's like completely locked. And

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Speaker 3: And I was like freaking out. Now, I'm like this

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Speaker 3: is that was so strange. And then I went down

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Speaker 3: to the front desk and I was like, hey, are

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Speaker 3: there like rodent problems and they get through like the

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Speaker 3: air conditioner men or something like, because I heard the

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Speaker 3: the counter was just very nonchalant. It's like, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: I was like in the makeup chair and our makeup artist,

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Speaker 3: the head makeup artist was a witch. And a witch

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Speaker 3: in Hawaii is not like bad witch that puts courses

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Speaker 3: and stuff. It's like person that is able to speak to,

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Speaker 3: more of like a positive like person yeah medium, I

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, you know, you know, this is

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Speaker 3: And I told her the story of the footsteps and

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Speaker 3: mischievous ghost. It's like so nonchalant. It was in like

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Speaker 3: the mischievous ghost. And I was like what does that mean.

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you know, this is this hotel is

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Speaker 3: built on top of a cemetery. And I'm like, uh huh,

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Speaker 3: so there are these spirits like running around and that's

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Speaker 3: probably a mischievous ghost that is in your room, and

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Speaker 3: it's kind of messing with you, right, and so what

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Speaker 3: This is like yeah. So she pulls out red sea

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Speaker 3: salt Hawaiian Sea salt, and she's like, okay, you need

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be here for this amount of time,

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: But then I went to the room and I put

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Speaker 3: I was like, yo, mischievous ghosts, I'm sung, and I'm

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Speaker 3: I don't think I want to be playing with you anymore,

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Speaker 3: So don't bother me anymore. And then it never happened again.

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Speaker 1: I would be so scared to stay in that hotel

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Speaker 3: But she, but the witch said that this ghost is

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Speaker 1: But I'd be worried about the other souls.

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Speaker 3: But she was like, you, you're not here to do

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Speaker 3: bad whatever, that and these other ghosts might come and

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Speaker 3: like mess with in. She did tell me, do not

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Speaker 3: take any sand or rocks from this area. Don't take

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Speaker 1: Don't if something gets like stuck in your shoes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but you know, like like people put

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Speaker 3: it's assuming there. She's like, don't do that. Yeah, how

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Speaker 3: about you.

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Speaker 1: I've I've had a lot, I've had a lot of

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Speaker 1: creepy experiences that I fullheartedly believe in spirits and ghosts

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Speaker 1: and all that. A lot of people think this is

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Speaker 1: bs when I told them the story, but on my

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Speaker 1: life it is not. When we were younger, we lived

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Speaker 1: by an abandoned hospital, and what we would do for fun,

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Speaker 1: you know, before phones and stuff like that, was we'd

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Speaker 1: flashlights because like spooky stuff would happen all the time,

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Speaker 1: so we're like, oh, we're going like ghost hunting. And

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Speaker 1: one time I very vividly remember we were in the

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Speaker 1: the NICICU I think it's called, where you know babies

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Speaker 1: who are born too early, like they have all.

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Speaker 3: Of the incubator yes, thank.

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Speaker 1: You that they stand. It was like one of those rooms,

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Speaker 1: and there was a box of spoons, of metal spoons

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Speaker 1: a thud. The spoons fell ever around the floor, and

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Speaker 1: I swear to God, every single one of those spoons

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Speaker 1: Every single one of them was bent in half. And

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Speaker 1: it was the most it was the weirdest thing that

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, weird stuff like that. I can't

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Speaker 1: say I've ever visually seen a ghost, but I've had

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Speaker 1: moments that have spooked to me so badly that the

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Speaker 1: slightest like I feel energy. That sounds so like cheesy

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll it'll creep me out. Because I've had these

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Speaker 3: I'd like to like be possessed by a ghost. I

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Speaker 1: I think it's an energy. I don't think it's so

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Speaker 3: I would like to be possessed and then like live

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Speaker 1: That's something like exorcist shit.

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Speaker 3: I think, like you, I could, I could pick out

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Speaker 3: like the powerball numbers. I don't think it works. No,

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Speaker 3: what are these ghost rules? I mean, I want to

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Speaker 1: Well, they say ghosts or spirits that haven't passed on

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Speaker 3: Do you believe in aliens?

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Speaker 1: I would feel dumb to not believe that there's some

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Speaker 3: Out there we'll never see yet to see one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they've been here the entire time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I feel like an alien sometimes. Well, speaking

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Speaker 3: of aliens, okay, and the way he you know, just

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Speaker 3: so next to Guy's Mike Spagnola, right, Sege, Yeah, he's kind

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Speaker 3: of like an alien. He's like anomaly. Sure, I so

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Speaker 3: much enthusiasm for life and people and cars.

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Speaker 1: He's the CEO of Sema show talks about having a

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, it's something that you can really be inspired by.

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Speaker 3: And today we get a seeing kind of insight on

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Speaker 3: solution right, definitely, all right. Further, Ado might spec Nola

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Speaker 3: for the viewers out there and the listeners. Mike is

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Speaker 3: an old friend of mine. He currently is the CEO

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Speaker 3: of SEMA. For you guys that don't know Sema Seema,

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Speaker 1: The largest trade show of the world in the US

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Speaker 1: for sure in the US when it comes to automotive.

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Speaker 1: And you guys are also a nonprofit too, right, so

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Speaker 1: you give a lot back to the community.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we really anything we make on the show,

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Speaker 2: we just reinvest in the industry, into this culture of ours,

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Speaker 2: So we make money on the show, we you know,

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Speaker 2: we have a due structure and all of that, but

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Speaker 2: the government stuff that we have to be involved in

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Speaker 2: in education and training. And you've been to our Seema garages,

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Speaker 2: to protect this culture, this lifestyle that we all love. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's that's all part of it.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been with CEMA for?

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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, I sold my shares in my last

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Speaker 2: to build the SEMA Garage and this product development center

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Speaker 2: because I'd spent so much of my life doing product development,

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Speaker 2: now and said they're working on hydrogen. Toyota's been hybrid

435
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: for a while. They were the first guys to step up,

436
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: and they really got criticized for that. But you can

437
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: build ten hybrids for every EV just with the minerals

438
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: and the batteries it takes. And hybrids are getting fifty

439
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: sixty miles to the gallon. I mean, that's not a

440
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 2: bad deal, right, and let alone the price of it.

441
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: So do you think it is inevitable that cars, new

442
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: cars eventually will all end up as EV.

443
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: Do you feel that? Gut? No, no, no, And again

444
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, we're running internal combustion engines on

445
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 2: hydrogen now, so you know, I think that's one of

446
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: the answers. Let alone, you know, for what we love, right,

447
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: the noise in the yeah, the driveability and the you know,

448
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: all of that. So I think it's a long run.

449
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a really long run. And I think

450
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: you're going to see a lot of technologies evolve. Porsche

451
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 2: and Shell Oil and some of these others are putting

452
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: you know, tens of millions of dollars into synthetic fuels,

453
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: in renewable fuels, and I think that's I think that's

454
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: really where it's going to end.

455
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: Up, renewable fuels. Interesting. You don't have a ev at.

456
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: Do you. I don't. I'd be happy to have one.

457
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: I feel I believe in balance, and I feel like

458
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: there's you know, times when an EVY absolutely makes sense,

459
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: and I'm pro ev don't get me wrong, But I

460
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: also think you have to keep the passion alive in

461
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: whatever that looks like. For me, I love working on cars,

462
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I love tearing apart of motor and

463
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: I hope I have the opportunity to do that forever.

464
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: And I wish people at home, I hope everyone gets

465
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: a chance to experience that, because it really is something special.

466
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: But for those who you know, really just need something

467
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: for a to B, needs a commuter and really doesn't

468
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: care about the visual feeling of maybe in ice engine

469
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: that was redundant. Sorry, but I then think an EV

470
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: makes makes perfect sense.

471
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no again, I agree. It's part of the solution,

472
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: it's not the only solution.

473
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 3: Right, that's a great answer.

474
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: What do you think? What's your thoughts on EV?

475
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: You know, I was so against EV all EV's I

476
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: was like, I don't like any of it. There's nothing,

477
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 3: you know, like I can't connect with the cars. And

478
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: then I drove thish N series Hyundai. Yeah, right in Korea.

479
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: I drove it for like a week and then I

480
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: took it on the track and then I got in

481
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: there drift version of it, and it has fake sound.

482
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 3: It's like six hundred plus horsepower, and everything in the

483
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: car is what a car enthusiast like, we'll freak out about,

484
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: Like from the seats to the steering wall to the

485
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: cup holder was like the coolest couple holder everything. Because

486
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: they were like the engineers were like designers were like,

487
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: is there a criticism you have of the car? Go, yeah,

488
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: you know there's no cup holders in this thing. And

489
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, we know you like cup holders. They're like,

490
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: press this button. All of a sudden, it's like they

491
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: got a star Trek. It's like they're like wow, They're like,

492
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: what about the rest of them? I go, no, this

493
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: cup holder is like the cool couple in my life.

494
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: I forgot about this.

495
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: But and then has the sound. It's like from what

496
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: from what they was saying, it's like there's these subwiffers

497
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: in the backseat and there's like you know, natural aspirated

498
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: mode and it just start. The car starts to rumble. Wow,

499
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: and then it's like backfires because you know, you can

500
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: put it in manual mode and you downship and it's

501
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 3: like and then.

502
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: People outside they're like, wait, hey, whoa, this is the

503
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: EV this is noise all And then you can turn

504
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: it off and it's quiet.

505
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 3: It's just the EV car. You can just be like invisible.

506
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: But then we're like, you know rolling by, like you know,

507
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: this museum and these like you know, older folks were

508
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: out there and I was like, that's down shifting.

509
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: It's like.

510
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 3: It was so cool and you can drift this car.

511
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, well this and then in Seriah

512
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 3: is like an F one, Like it's like I got

513
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: an F one like race car. The whole thing is

514
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: it's just it's the most like it's just Evie or not.

515
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: I go, this is just an amazing looking car driving car.

516
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 3: It sounds amazing, right, and then like the price point

517
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: is like awesome, and I was like this is all

518
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: ev I was like shocked, and so it was like converted,

519
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: like it was like I crossed the line and even

520
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, and my character is notorious for poo pooing

521
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: on Hyundai's right like in Tokyo Drift. I'm like, you

522
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna drive it day? And I give you

523
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: keys to.

524
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: Right, and I converted. I was like, no, honey, makes

525
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: some good stuff. I mean, come on, like the N series,

526
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: that's right. I drove that N seventy four like concept car. Right,

527
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 4: that's all the hydrogen car, and that's awesome.

528
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: It's awesome. But you know a lot of parts are

529
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: like three D printed and it's like it's a concept car, right,

530
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: But this Ionic five and Looknay pays me nothing, like

531
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: I have no relationship with them. But if ev cars

532
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: become this like oh my god, where because as a

533
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: car enthusier, go, this is giving me everything I want? Right,

534
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: and that couple them.

535
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: But again, it is going to evolve you know, Borlers

536
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: come out with a Borler who makes great exhaust systems,

537
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: has come out with a software package for all those

538
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: sounds that you can plug into an EV and it's

539
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: got F one, it's got all those different sounds. It's

540
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: got a v E.

541
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Sound and it's fascinating. I didn't even think about an

542
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: exhaust company how they would adapt in the future when

543
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: it comes to a vehicle that does not have an

544
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: exhaust system. What a way to adapt?

545
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll see, you know again, the industry's going

546
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: to continue to move and transform. The speech I did yesterday,

547
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: I quoted an article and the article said, does the

548
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: aftermarket have five more years? And it talked about government

549
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: intervention and what they allow us to continue to do

550
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: the things we do. It talked about the complexity of

551
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: vehicles and you're going to be able to continue to

552
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 2: modify them because of all the computer systems and all

553
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: the things in these vehicles. And it talked about next

554
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: gen maybe not being interested in cars and looking at

555
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: other things. And then I held up the article. It

556
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: was from nineteen seventy one. So our industry continues to

557
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: find ways to be relevant to that here.

558
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Right, because my fault question was going to be from

559
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: your level, how do you see the younger generation's involvement

560
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: in modern automotive.

561
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: So you know a few things. If you think about

562
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: let's just take even the new forward lightning truck, It's

563
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: still a truck, so you can still lift it. Your

564
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: can still be bigger, entires, wheels, you can still put

565
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: all the bid accessories, you can still go over landing

566
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: and camping. So we'll adapt, I mean, there'll be things

567
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: that will we adapt to. The other kind of niche

568
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: market that's starting to happen, of course, is the conversion. Right,

569
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: so guy's taking a sixty nine Camaro in Porsche, Yeah, Porsche,

570
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: any of those sort of things where and then you

571
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: know that's evolving. It was that you had to find

572
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: a wreck Tesla and pull all the guts out of

573
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: it and put it into whatever your rest a modding.

574
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: But now we had it seene of the share over

575
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: fifty manufacturers of battery packs and motors and controllers and

576
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: all those sorts of things. So that market is going

577
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: to continue to evolve. So I think the younger tech

578
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: generation is going to convert older vehicles into ev and

579
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: just all that conversion. I mean, you and I worked

580
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: on a maverick. Yeah, and I thought he was crazy.

581
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: He was like, I was like, we're you know, we're

582
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: going to put a V eight, We're going to put

583
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: a five to zero in it. And You're like, no,

584
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: we're not. And you know, we said we're going to

585
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: put an EcoBoost mode two point three ecoboos ecaboos mode yeah,

586
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: into a into a seventy one to two Maverick. But

587
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: but that was a you know, we did that vehicle.

588
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: We pulled the it was a six cylinder. It was

589
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: we put it on the dino. I think it was

590
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: seventy six horse power at the rear wheels and seventy six.

591
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: You guys built this for SEMA Garage, right, Yeah.

592
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: We built it with some student Yeah, it was.

593
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 3: It was it was like an auction car to be

594
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: able to include young high school students on a build. Yeah,

595
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: right at the right.

596
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: And we had put it on the dinal and we

597
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: put it in our missions lab at the Seema Garage

598
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: and then we pulled that motor. We put the Yukaboost

599
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: motor in it and uh, it was about two eighty

600
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: two ninety at the rear wheels and it was seventy

601
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: times cleaner.

602
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say better emotions.

603
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, than the original motor. And then that car went

604
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: to SEEMA and actually won the Ford Design Award and

605
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: edsel Ford presented the kids with the awards. I mean,

606
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: that was.

607
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Probably my That's amazing.

608
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: That was probably one of the highlights of it was Career.

609
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: He came up to us and he's like, we love

610
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: the Maverick. Are you the Maverick?

611
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: He's a guy.

612
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: It's still underdog, underappreciated for it, I've been saying.

613
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: And you know, one of the cool things also we

614
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: did with the kids. It was these students. We used

615
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: to see a machine, a scanner, so we scanned all

616
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: the engine bay and then we scanned the engine, and

617
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: then we showed them in CAD how the engine would

618
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: fit into the engine bay. And then we even three

619
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: D printed the motor. But we did it all on

620
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: CAD and it fit to a t when it was

621
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: all done. So it's amazing where technology's gone. You know,

622
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: we used to break our knuckles and try fitting things

623
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: that didn't fit, and cut and shave, and when you

624
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: just think it can't get any better, it continues to

625
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: just get better. I mean, the builds that happened today

626
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: are just incredible. I mean, the ingenuity and the engineering

627
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: and the and it's fun to just watch, you know,

628
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: a younger generation light up and talk about the sorts

629
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: of things fashion.

630
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of judging one of the young

631
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: guns a few years ago, and it was to see

632
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: these builds. It's absolutely mind blowing and so fascinating of

633
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: what people are able to do at such a young age.

634
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: I mean, because this argument that you know, car culture

635
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: is dying, it's dwindling away, but then you go to Sema, right,

636
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: and every year it's like, you know, pop seats itself. Right,

637
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: It's like because for car folks it's like the Mecca.

638
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: Like people from you know, the Middle East and you know,

639
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: like you know, from Dubai. They're like, you know, one day,

640
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: my friend, my dream is to go to the Sema.

641
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: Over one hundred countries show up.

642
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

643
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: I always thought it was the biggest in the world,

644
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and to me it forever will be.

645
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: So we're growing. The industry still grows a few billion

646
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: dollars every single year. Obviously the fast and furiy s

647
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: fastized kind of fueled some of that.

648
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: You know, well, speaking of we have a we have

649
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: a connection with Fast and Feary.

650
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

651
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: So, prior to Team Mike had a bodykit company that

652
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: supplied the body kits.

653
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: To the the other very first one fun Yea, which

654
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: of course we did the Supra, we did the Mitsubishi

655
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: so and at that time, the running storyline was that it

656
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: was called Redline. I think was going to be it's

657
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: going to be the name of the movie. I actually

658
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: remember this, and we we gave out some of these

659
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: bodykits and I kind of forgot about the whole thing.

660
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: You know. It was a year later the movie came out.

661
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: It was like, Hey, that's pretty cool.

662
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: It's amazing, Like the six degrees of separation.

663
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: People have with that friend continues on.

664
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: H When you hang out in the car community, you

665
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: realize like, oh, they are very successful people that never

666
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: went to college and the like appreciation to work with

667
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: your hands right and today I wonder if you know

668
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: that skill set is something that this current generation they

669
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: don't value.

670
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I'm a big proponent of trade schools,

671
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: I really am. And four year college isn't for everybody,

672
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: and in fact, it really frustrates me to see young

673
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: kids go through college and be in debt for over

674
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars, one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty

675
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and come out with a degree that they

676
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: really can't use towards, you know, towards their life, towards

677
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: their skills. And you know, I run into it all

678
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: the time, where they're in just debt forever, paying back

679
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: five six hundred and seven hundred dollars a month for

680
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: fifteen years, twenty years. It's really a shame. And you know, Sung,

681
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: you and I have gone to high schools and talked

682
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: about this because really it's not even the students, it's

683
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: the parents. The parents are so focused on my kid

684
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: is going to go to a four year college, but

685
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: they don't always come out with skills that they can

686
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: use that they're going to move forward with in a

687
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: trade And so I'm a big proponent of you know,

688
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: if you can get through a four year college, great,

689
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: and if you can use those skills to better your career, great.

690
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: But trade schools are alive and well. In the automotive industry.

691
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: We're always going to need carpenters, we're always going to

692
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: need plumber, We're always going to need electricians. We're always

693
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: going to need auto technicians, and especially as this thing

694
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: does move towards eve great great need. I was talking

695
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: to Roger Penske a couple of years ago, and between

696
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: all this car dealerships and all the other things, they

697
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: were looking for twenty thousand technicians over the next few years.

698
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: And so I mean, you can come out of Uti

699
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: or some of these schools now and you're starting at

700
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: a eighty thousand, ninety thousand a year.

701
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: So people don't know this, right, So you get a

702
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: job at BMW or you know, Porsche, it's like sixty

703
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: five to eighty five thousand starting, yeah, with benefits.

704
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: Right, that's not bad, No, it's not bad. Yeah, But

705
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: you know, like anything in life, you have to hustle. Right.

706
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: If people think they're going to come into anything and

707
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: be eight to five and do other things, you can

708
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: make a career, but you're not going to excel at it.

709
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 3: What characteristics about these individuals stand out?

710
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: I think it's anything in business, right, having tenacity, having

711
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: to put in the time and the effort, failing, getting up,

712
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: picking yourself back up, doing it again, failing picking yourself

713
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: back up, doing it again, doing what you have to

714
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: do to make it, you know, whether that's living at

715
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: home and putting the time and the effort in and

716
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: understanding the car culture and understand the products needed. It's

717
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: the you know, mother and invention. Right, It's anything you

718
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: see something break and you think you can build it better.

719
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: That's what keeps our industry going, just being unique and different.

720
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be the same as the

721
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: other guy. I want to I want to have something

722
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: different on my mod that you know makes me stand out.

723
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: It's it's expression to who you are, right, It's it's

724
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: really a canvas that shows who you are are in

725
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: what makes you so yeah?

726
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's here's a question for myself. The thing

727
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: that really is always really stood out with you is

728
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: your relationship with your wife, Like how do you keep

729
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: marriage and the friendship like it's always fresh. I never

730
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: feel like you know when you when you too, like

731
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: are still like the energy is like high school sweetheart,

732
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: smiling as you talk, like it's it's like, you know,

733
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: you made some couples and you're like, yo, man, they're

734
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: like you know, they're they're on their last thread, right,

735
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: They're like they're just tolerating each other. Where I never

736
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: feel that with you two, and for people that are

737
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: going through this right, like the relationship kind of stalemate.

738
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: I guess like, you know, what, how do you keep

739
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: refresh yet?

740
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: And how long have you guys been together for.

741
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: Forty one years?

742
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: What do you want?

743
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

744
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you know, look at you have to work

745
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: at it, right, you have to continue to work at it.

746
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: You have to have good communication. We take time to

747
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: go out, we still date. You know, we are Christian people,

748
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: so I think that plays into it as well, that

749
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: we have that commitment to each other. And so I

750
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: try to include her a little more in even my

751
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: business travels. And you got to work at it, you know,

752
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: you have to just continue to work at it and

753
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: remind each other as to you know, what we're doing

754
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: and while we're here and all that.

755
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: So when she gets she gets on you for like

756
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: working too much and everything at home, what's your response?

757
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: You know, confession, This is part of that work life balance.

758
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: I've never taken two full weeks off of vacation, Like

759
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: I'll take a week at a time or three days

760
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: at a time. Forty So we're going to Europe. We're

761
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: going to go to Italy. This summer and I'm taking

762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 2: two full weeks off so you'll enjoy this. We were

763
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: at the dinner table with the kids and grandkids and

764
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: we total, we're going to Italy this summer. You know.

765
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: The kids said, well, what dates? And I said, well,

766
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: I end up August to second week September. And Andrews

767
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: stands up, my oldest son and goes, huh, dad, when's

768
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: Manza the Formula wonder is? Isn't that the first? Because

769
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: I stirred at him, like the Depth store, I'm like,

770
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: I'm going to kill you right now, you know. And

771
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: that was a big deal because wait, we're going to

772
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: Italy because you want to go to the Formula one race.

773
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, no, no, you know we

774
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: might show up there. The fire factory might be on

775
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: our way. So we've had kind of this running joke.

776
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: So probably, like you guys, anywhere you go, you end

777
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: up finding car people, right, you end up finding that deal.

778
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: And so many times in my life we'll go to

779
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: something that has nothing to do with cars and we

780
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: find the car guys and like Dianad just shake her head.

781
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: Do you share like everything with her? Like work stressed?

782
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 3: Do you bring that home?

783
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: I imagine if you guys have been together for forty

784
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: one years, you tell each other at everything. Am I right?

785
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, except if I buy a car that I didn't

786
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: tell her about her.

787
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: No, really, he has a lot of there's a lot

788
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: of those.

789
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: No I did. I did have one that I was

790
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: actually on a trailer and I was looking at an.

791
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: Aston Martin and your thumb slipped.

792
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: She knew I kind of wanted one, but I didn't

793
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: tell her. I was looking for one, and and I

794
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: was kind of bidding on it, and I thought I'll

795
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: throw in one last bid because it was it was

796
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: below market, and all of a sudden I bought it.

797
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh crap. I got to go

798
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: home and tell her.

799
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: But you told her you didn't wait for the car

800
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: to show.

801
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, But I told her. She was

802
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: fine with it. She was like, you always wanted that car,

803
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Go for it. You know, you deserve it. You know

804
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: those sort of things.

805
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: So, uh, that's a communication where she knew you you

806
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: love the car, she knew you always wanted one, you

807
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: were honest and open with her about having purchased it.

808
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: So there still is that communication that you guys are

809
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: constantly having amongst one another, which is so important. I think.

810
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I saw the when the Z was

811
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: at Sema show a couple of years ago, and I

812
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: went over to look at it, and I was like,

813
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: I gotta have I got to have this new, the

814
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: new Z. And she was good with it. I mean,

815
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: she understood the heritage with me with thoughts and and

816
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: nissans and and of course you know, she likes her

817
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: shopping as well, so we try to make sure that

818
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: balance happens.

819
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go shopping with her?

820
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: I do you do? I do? Yeah?

821
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: All go sound so surprised.

822
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: That's pretty for forty one years, Like that's something that

823
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: I it's hard for me to do now. I used

824
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: to try to do that, like you know, go and

825
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: just carry the bags, right, But then, God, I hate shopping.

826
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.

827
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't get out like you.

828
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: If I need clothes, yeah, I'll walk in. I'm in

829
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: there ten minutes. I don't even look at the price.

830
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: I buy what I need them out right.

831
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 3: When you travel, do you do the laundry at the hotel?

832
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: I do? I spend the money?

833
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: You spend the money?

834
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

835
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: Wow, Because now you're a baller you're the CEO. I

836
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: got that kind of money. But don't you feel guilty

837
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 3: spending the urn of money?

838
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: Right? I went to the Super Bowl and everything was ridiculous.

839
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: We went downstairs to the hotel to have bread and

840
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: it was sold out. The lady said, well, there's a

841
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: you can do a buffet across the other side of

842
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: the hotel. So we walked over to the other side

843
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: of the hotel. One hundred and fifteen dollars a person

844
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: for breakfast a buffet a buffet. Wow, well, even be

845
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: proud of me. We got our jackets and we walked

846
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: over to Denny's, got nine ninety five breakfast.

847
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: Right, I can't spend that kind of line.

848
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous.

849
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's too much. Yeah, I mean Denny's is good food.

850
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good food. Why you're still full at the

851
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: end of the yeah?

852
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: Right, I think that. I think Denny's has one of

853
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: the best chicken fried sticks in the world. Yeah, you

854
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: know what that is?

855
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: A chicken fried stick? An idea you had that never

856
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: eaten one.

857
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Now, there's no chicken in it.

858
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 1: It's just a fried stick.

859
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: Right, It's a hamburger meat.

860
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: Right. You can tell you's from the South. Yeah, gravy.

861
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the humble beginnings or like not growing

862
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: up with like money, even if it's expense or I

863
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: could like write it off. I can't spend that kind

864
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: of money on dry cleaning underwear. I just can't do it.

865
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: I can't.

866
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: That's where I draw the line. I'm okay, Yeah, you're okay.

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Speaker 2: There's something you gotta have good toilet paper. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: gotta have clean underwear. Yeah, you gotta have good syrup, syrup,

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Speaker 2: syrup for your pancakes cakes. Yeah, okay. So there's a

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Speaker 2: few things I'll splurgeh.

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Speaker 3: On, but those are Yeah, that's that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the syrup. I like the syrup. The syrup.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have principles in life, That's right.

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Speaker 2: There's some things that's just you know, you spend the

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Speaker 2: dollars on. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks Mike, Yeah, thank you. This was just wonderful

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Speaker 3: to sit down with you and you.

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Speaker 2: Guys as well. Honored to be here and honored to

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Speaker 2: be a guest.

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Speaker 1: And we should give credit and credits due. You jumped

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Speaker 1: straight from a flight from lax Rove straight here and

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Speaker 1: now you're onto another job, and we really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: taking the time well, thank you and

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Speaker 2: Again thanks for the invite anytime