Speaker 1: My next guest is a conservative political commentator. Actually, mister Independent,
Speaker 1: that's what I call him. He's a phenomenal media personality
Speaker 1: and a best selling author.
Speaker 2: He also happens to be a friend of the program.
Speaker 1: The man, the one I called the father of cable
Speaker 1: television himself, the one and only Bill O'Reilly, is on
Speaker 1: the show right now.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Big Time? How are you, sir? How's everything?
Speaker 2: It's good to see you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd be the grandfather of cable. I think I'm
Speaker 3: getting old and doggy? Or is here? All right?
Speaker 2: That's your words, not mine.
Speaker 3: Now. I sent you Confronting the Presidents, my number one
Speaker 3: New York Times bestseller. I know you did one or
Speaker 3: two things. You either read it or you sold it
Speaker 3: on eBay, because which one was neither.
Speaker 1: I haven't read it yet, but I have it by
Speaker 1: my bedside, and I'm getting.
Speaker 2: Ready to read it. Bill O'Reilly. I keep telling you
Speaker 2: that I'm just a very busy man.
Speaker 3: I understand that. Hey, listen, let's get right to your
Speaker 3: chapter on Grover Cleveland, because that's who Donald Trump is.
Speaker 3: He's Grover.
Speaker 1: Now, well, listen, I'm going to do that. Let me
Speaker 1: just get right to it because I know you're a
Speaker 1: busy man. I really appreciate you making time out of
Speaker 1: your busy schedule.
Speaker 2: Okay, the results are what they are. I am shocked
Speaker 2: that it was a romp.
Speaker 1: I expected Trump to win, even though I voted for
Speaker 1: Kamala Harrison.
Speaker 2: Want to record saying that, But it was a romp.
Speaker 1: He won decisively the popular vote as well as the
Speaker 1: electoral college.
Speaker 2: Why did that happen? Bill?
Speaker 3: Because people are suffering economically, the working people, the non
Speaker 3: ideologues see the problem is that in America, we in
Speaker 3: the media think that everybody believes the way we do,
Speaker 3: and they don't. Most people aren't engaged in politics. They
Speaker 3: lean in once in a while, take a look, but
Speaker 3: they're not living at twenty four hours a day. They'll
Speaker 3: do sports and you know that. I mean, they'll have
Speaker 3: golf for their hobbies or whatever. Maybe, And I believe,
Speaker 3: and I think it'll bear out on exit polling that
Speaker 3: most Americans who voted against Kamala Harris really voted against
Speaker 3: President Biden because under Biden, who's the second worst president
Speaker 3: in our country's history, purchasing power for workers declined dramatically
Speaker 3: almost nine percent in three and a half years. So
Speaker 3: people are looking around going, I don't have any money.
Speaker 3: I got humongous insurance, fuel and food bills, and four
Speaker 3: years ago I wasn't in the circumstances. I'm going to
Speaker 3: go back to Trump, no matter what they say about them.
Speaker 3: And that's what I think happened.
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from with that.
Speaker 1: But we just saw articles, at least as recently as
Speaker 1: a week ago, where they were saying the economy is
Speaker 1: in good shape, inflation is down. What you've been hearing
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the truth. I mean, was that all
Speaker 1: smoking mirrors? Is that a smoke?
Speaker 3: No, But it doesn't matter. The damage is still in play.
Speaker 3: When inflation comes down, it doesn't mean prices come down.
Speaker 3: It means that inflation doesn't grow as much. So the
Speaker 3: American worker, the average guy in gal is paying twenty
Speaker 3: percent more for the essentials alive and that has not moved.
Speaker 3: And Trump promised to move it down by taking out
Speaker 3: the regulations of Bide administration put on the fossil fuel industry,
Speaker 3: thereby driving costs for transportation, gas and oil down, and
Speaker 3: that resonated among workers. Trump had a plant. What was
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's economic plant? Zero because she didn't have a
Speaker 3: plan for anything, and she was not a good candidate.
Speaker 1: And when you say she wasn't a good candidate, what
Speaker 1: I look at, Bill, is this. The economy obviously was
Speaker 1: one issue. Immigration had to be another. Crime in the
Speaker 1: streets of America definitely had to be another. I think
Speaker 1: woke and cancel culture played.
Speaker 2: A role as well.
Speaker 1: But possibly the other thing that may come to mind
Speaker 1: building is that she didn't have to you know, she
Speaker 1: didn't go through a primary. Obviously, Joe Biden escaped the primary.
Speaker 1: He ultimately bowed out after his poorest performance. On June
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, she was elevated to be in the Democratic
Speaker 1: nominee without competition.
Speaker 2: Those are the kind of things that I was hearing.
Speaker 1: Leading up to the election. What say you to all
Speaker 1: of that? What role did that play in her demidse.
Speaker 3: Butterers didn't care about that one bit. They didn't care
Speaker 3: about it. So Kamala Harris made one enormous mistake. She
Speaker 3: didn't answer any questions. So she goes on Fox News
Speaker 3: and Brettbaar asked her ten questions and she doesn't answer
Speaker 3: one of them, just goes wandering into the middle class
Speaker 3: home and all those other business. Now, you're a sport
Speaker 3: and you interview people every day of your life, and
Speaker 3: so do I. If I ask a direct question in
Speaker 3: the no spin zone and somebody doesn't answer, the interview, halts,
Speaker 3: I stop the interview and go did you not understand
Speaker 3: the question? Should I pose it again? And if you
Speaker 3: don't want to answer, can you tell me why Barrett
Speaker 3: didn't do that, but he should have. But anybody watching
Speaker 3: Kama Harris on the trail, No, she wasn't going to
Speaker 3: answer any questions because she was a rehearsed candidate, she
Speaker 3: was a machine candidate. She didn't have enough confidence in
Speaker 3: her own abilities to articulate problem solving, fell back on memorization. Now,
Speaker 3: the woman is excellent in front of the camera. I
Speaker 3: predict she's going to wind up on the view, which
Speaker 3: you'll be showbiz in some capacity while waits for the
Speaker 3: next political opening. But she absolutely insulted I think people
Speaker 3: watching those interviews by failing to answer the questions enormous mistake.
Speaker 2: Was it her or is it the Democratic Party?
Speaker 1: Believing that that was the route she needed to take,
Speaker 1: And obviously she was following.
Speaker 2: Sup because she was in no position. She was in
Speaker 2: no position to shove uside what they wanted to do. Right.
Speaker 3: They believed that she could win doing what Biden did
Speaker 3: in twenty which basically staying in house, not going out.
Speaker 3: Warren Hardy in nineteen twenty, as you will learn when
Speaker 3: you're reconfronting the presidents did the same thing, and he
Speaker 3: won and Biden won. So the party said, yeah, we
Speaker 3: don't really have to answer these stinking questions. We can
Speaker 3: just evade. But when you are a candidate that is
Speaker 3: new to people, they don't know you, you've got to
Speaker 3: define yourself. And Kamala Harris certainly did not do that.
Speaker 3: There was no emotional attachment to the Vice president.
Speaker 1: We saw Oprah Winfrey speak, We saw Jennifer Lopez speak,
Speaker 1: We saw Michelle Obama give us speech, particularly in Klama Zoo,
Speaker 1: Michigan a little over a week ago, about ten days
Speaker 1: ago or so, we saw a plethora of well known
Speaker 1: figures speaking out on behalf of Kamala Harris, and some
Speaker 1: alluded to her not receiving the level of support that
Speaker 1: she deserves, including former President Barack Obama. They said it
Speaker 1: must be some form of misogyny. They didn't come out
Speaker 1: and say that word, but they certainly alluded to that.
Speaker 1: What role, if any, do you believe that played in
Speaker 1: the lack of support she received in this election?
Speaker 3: Zero?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's the same old stuff. You know,
Speaker 3: she didn't win because she's a woman, or she was
Speaker 3: a South Asian or an African American. It's a bunch
Speaker 3: of bull. If the American public believed that Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: could improve their economic circumstance, she certainly would have won
Speaker 3: by a big margin. Because Donald Trump's a very controversial
Speaker 3: person and if there was another alternative that people felt
Speaker 3: comfortable with, I think they would have gone there. She
Speaker 3: was a very hard worker, Kamala Harris, and she gave
Speaker 3: it a shot. But again, I fall back on the
Speaker 3: fact that if I'm sitting here stephen A, and she's
Speaker 3: sitting across from me for an hour interview, you think
Speaker 3: she survives that interview?
Speaker 1: No, not the one that I saw, Not the one
Speaker 1: that I saw on the campaign trail.
Speaker 2: No, based on the interviews that she gave. Not annow. Second,
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 3: You have to ask yourself, if she can't stand up
Speaker 3: to the tough questions, why should be why should she
Speaker 3: be awarded the position of the most powerful person in
Speaker 3: the world because Putin's a pretty tough guy. She and
Speaker 3: the Muthers, they're ruthless, evil people. You gotta have somebody
Speaker 3: in there, and like Trump or not, he's proven and
Speaker 3: he can stand up to these people. So it was
Speaker 3: all about economy, and you were right. Immigration played a
Speaker 3: big part. Biden and Harris have never ever explained why
Speaker 3: they open that border. For what reason do you do that?
Speaker 3: But here's the crusher. There's always a crusher in sports
Speaker 3: and politics. You want the crusher, here's the crusher. So
Speaker 3: ABC News is in the tank for Kamala Harris and
Speaker 3: their primary weekday show is The View two million viewers
Speaker 3: a day, one hundred percent liberal, no conservative women watch
Speaker 3: that program. Kamala Harris consents to go into there because
Speaker 3: it's a friendly venue. She sits there, they yuck it up,
Speaker 3: they tell her how great she is, smooched, smooth, smooch
Speaker 3: and then an aside comes out. If you had to
Speaker 3: do it all over again, do you think there's something
Speaker 3: that you would have done differently than President Biden?
Speaker 2: He said nothing, and Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: Says, not that I can think of. Over it was
Speaker 3: over when she said it, So the folks at home going,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I'm paying twenty percent more than I
Speaker 3: did three and a half years ago. Afghanistan was an
Speaker 3: enormous embarrassment of historical proportions. The open border has injected
Speaker 3: fourteen million foreign nationals into this country, largely unsupervised. And
Speaker 3: there's nothing you would have done differently over right then, And.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this just as just an aside before
Speaker 1: I asked my next question. You know, one of the
Speaker 1: things that I think worked against the argument of misogyny
Speaker 1: is that Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen won a popular
Speaker 1: vote by about two point six eight six million, more
Speaker 1: so than Donald Trump, even though she lost the electoral
Speaker 1: College vote. And obviously she is a woman, and she
Speaker 1: was considered very very.
Speaker 2: Tough as well. If anything, she has a bit tough
Speaker 2: around the resident. Sure, please go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you a better argument than Hillary. If
Speaker 3: Michelle Obama had wanted the nomination, she'd had it, the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party would have given it to her, and she
Speaker 3: would have won, and.
Speaker 1: She would have been So you're saying Michelle Obama would
Speaker 1: have beaten Trump.
Speaker 3: Yes, why enormously popular, missus Obama enormously popular, and the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party looks fondly at the eight years of Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: It was nostalgia. Let's go back to the Promised Land,
Speaker 3: and I think Michelle would have won.
Speaker 2: How long do you go back your relationship with Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: How long is it?
Speaker 3: How long have you known you thirty five years?
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Donald Trump that you've
Speaker 1: seen as a politician compared to the Donald Trump you
Speaker 1: knew before he was a politician?
Speaker 3: The same guy. I mean, he's not really a politician.
Speaker 3: He's a deal maker. That's how he ran the country
Speaker 3: in his first term. And if COVID had not hit us,
Speaker 3: he would have been easily reelected just on the economic
Speaker 3: success alone that he experienced in the first eighteen months.
Speaker 3: I remember when he left office in Flasher was one
Speaker 3: point four percent. So he's not an ideologue. Trump he
Speaker 3: doesn't care about I mean, if I were quizzing Trump
Speaker 3: on the Republican Party in the history of it, couldn't
Speaker 3: answer any questions. He doesn't know who what Calvin Coolies
Speaker 3: did or John Adams, Thomas Jefferson didn't know any of that.
Speaker 3: He's a deal maker and he's very stud at sizing
Speaker 3: up what he needs to get done to be successful.
Speaker 3: You don't have a mass billions of dollars. I wrote a book,
Speaker 3: The United States of Trump, best book you'll ever read,
Speaker 3: on a man and the man Donald Trump a masked
Speaker 3: of fortune by making good deals. And the final part
Speaker 3: of the equation is he is the hardest working politician
Speaker 3: in US history. There has never been another president or
Speaker 3: candidate that works as hard as that man works. And
Speaker 3: the contrast to Joe Knapping Biden was stunning, absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1: But what about somebody, what about somebody that would look
Speaker 1: at Bill O'Reilly knowing what you know, because you are
Speaker 1: very big on your facts.
Speaker 2: You know what the hell you're talking about it?
Speaker 1: And then somebody that's been on TV with you and
Speaker 1: had the pleasure of sitting next to you and seeing
Speaker 1: how you operate, I have to acknowledge.
Speaker 2: I just sat this scratching my head. I said, this,
Speaker 2: why this.
Speaker 1: Man has been doing this for so long? This man
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. But when you say he's a
Speaker 1: deal maker, okay, he's a businessman. A lot of folks
Speaker 1: on the left, the first thing that has come to
Speaker 1: my mind come to their minds a smirk, and they'll
Speaker 1: dismiss it. And they'll say the man's file for bankruptcy
Speaker 1: six different times.
Speaker 2: This is what they'll point to.
Speaker 1: They'll point to those kind of things and say, what
Speaker 1: on earth is Bill o'reiley talking about?
Speaker 2: How do you argue against that?
Speaker 3: I don't. He runs his business the way he wants
Speaker 3: and if he has to file for bankruptcy he does.
Speaker 3: I don't condone what Donald Trump's deals have been. Now
Speaker 3: my job, My job is to look for the overall
Speaker 3: welfare of the American people, all of them. And when
Speaker 3: you have a four year record in office, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm looking at. I'm not looking at Trump University or
Speaker 3: Trump golf course in Uruguay. I don't care. All right,
Speaker 3: the man is fabulously wealthy. If you get down tomorrow,
Speaker 3: igo and you look around, you go and this was
Speaker 3: like Louis the four Teeth down here. Okay. So all
Speaker 3: it has superflorous and so are his statements that sometimes
Speaker 3: are crazy, because he he always does that. My hypothesis
Speaker 3: is he's a rich guy, and rich guys say what
Speaker 3: they want. Elon Musk says what he wants, Okay, Mark
Speaker 3: Zuckerberg says what he wants, rich guy.
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, let's not forget him. He says, what do
Speaker 2: you want?
Speaker 3: Mark Cuban. Now, guys like you and me, working guys,
Speaker 3: I mean, we have worked our way up and I
Speaker 3: say what I want. But I wasn't always that way.
Speaker 3: I was damn cautious because I didn't have Daddy's money
Speaker 3: to fall back on or any of this other stuff.
Speaker 3: All right, I had. I had to carve it out.
Speaker 3: But rich people are different, and Trump is in that zone.
Speaker 3: If I want to say it, I'm going to say it,
Speaker 3: and I don't care who likes it, and that's what
Speaker 3: he does.
Speaker 1: I've always known billionaires to be that way. I know
Speaker 1: you got to get on out of here.
Speaker 2: Two quick questions.
Speaker 1: Latinos increase their vote for Trump by thirteen percent according
Speaker 1: to what I read, African Americans by five percent.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that happened for Donald Trump?
Speaker 3: It's economics, pure and simple, pure and simple. Look, when
Speaker 3: you have a president that under his administration, real wages
Speaker 3: that's take home pay, rise more than seven percent, and
Speaker 3: then you have another president right after and real wages fall,
Speaker 3: okay into the negative territory. If come back a little
Speaker 3: to about one point eight percent, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: color you are, what ethnicity you are, You're working hard
Speaker 3: for a living. You want to support your family, okay,
Speaker 3: you want to move on up like the Jeffersons, and
Speaker 3: when you can't, you're teed off. It's not about color,
Speaker 3: it's not about any of that. Now, there are some
Speaker 3: idy a lot who play that game. I don't play
Speaker 3: the game. But that's why he got more. Ask you
Speaker 3: one sports question, Ask me why the New York Jets
Speaker 3: can never get out of their way.
Speaker 1: I will not ask you that question because we all
Speaker 1: know their football purgatory. My last question to you is
Speaker 1: going to be this, how is this Trump going to
Speaker 1: be better than the Trump that was in office from twenty.
Speaker 3: Six I have no idea what's going to be better,
Speaker 3: whether it's going to be worse, I have no idea
Speaker 3: at all. What I want for the country is for
Speaker 3: Donald Trump to succeed, not for Donald Trump, not for
Speaker 3: Bill O'Reilly, the analyst on Bill O'Reilly dot com. It's
Speaker 3: going to help my business that he got reelected. But
Speaker 3: we have lots of liberals and independence watching us, and
Speaker 3: they do so because I'm not imprisoned in an ideological cage.
Speaker 3: But I want what's best for the country, and I
Speaker 3: sent out a message today on Bill O'Reilly dot com.
Speaker 3: I write a daily message and everybody should go. It's free.
Speaker 3: Can you hear it? Donald Trump better be cautious. Second
Speaker 3: terms are harder than first terms. Grover Cleveland, the only
Speaker 3: other guy who did this non consecutive terms, had a
Speaker 3: horrendous second term. And Trump the Hubrists all of that.
Speaker 3: You need to tamp that down, laser lock into cleaning
Speaker 3: up the border, raising the economy as quickly as possible,
Speaker 3: getting social disorder under control, and being very straight with
Speaker 3: the American public. That's what I hope he does.
Speaker 1: Bill Riley, I really appreciate you taking time out of
Speaker 1: your business schedule to join me today. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to have you back with I just sit here and
Speaker 1: talk to you about you and all you have accomplished
Speaker 1: in your career, particularly with all these dag on best.
Speaker 2: Sellers you keep writing. So I'm looking forward to talking
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: And in the near future we're going to be on
Speaker 1: Cuomo Nation, Cuomo Tonight on News Nation.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that as well. Always appreciate you,
Speaker 2: my man, Thank you so much for joining me. Really
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Stevin I really enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 2: Thank you, see you soon. M.