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Speaker 1: Oh a great time. Watch Steve Tasperus Dome tous Down

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Speaker 1: down Time. Welcome to One Bills Live. Steve Tasker, along

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Speaker 1: with Chris Brown here with you from noon till three.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Buffalo Bills, some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's going on around the National Football League and

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Speaker 1: also around the sports world as leagues are starting to

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Speaker 1: pry open uh their seasons once again after they've been

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Speaker 1: locked down for so long. Brownie, how you doing. It's

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Speaker 1: good to see you again. I'm doing good. It's hot, man,

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Speaker 1: it is hot. I'm never gonna complain that it's too hot,

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Speaker 1: you know, here in Buffalo. But man, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: we were saying yesterday, there is no spring. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I had to cool off

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Speaker 1: yesterday after the show and I needed a dip. Man,

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Speaker 1: I had to it was toasty. It's nice though. Oh No,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm never gonna complain that it's too

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Speaker 1: hot in Buffalo. I'll take every warm day we can get. Man,

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Speaker 1: rack him up. I know it's it really is nice

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Speaker 1: and and it's uh we're supposed to get a couple

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Speaker 1: of days of rain after this. But by the same

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Speaker 1: tote and that's that's gonna be fine. I'm still waiting.

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Speaker 1: There's still parts of my lawn I can't mow yet,

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Speaker 1: but um, the rest of it, it's it's growing like

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's growing fast man, after all the wet,

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Speaker 1: after the rain I got. Now have a hot sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I cut my lawn twice in five days,

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Speaker 1: I know. And it was yeah, and I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: put it all in my garbage tote because because I

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Speaker 1: bag otherwise, I have what turns into the equivalent of

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Speaker 1: rose of hay if I just try to, you know,

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Speaker 1: spit it out of my decide what there? Do you care?

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Speaker 1: Or do you check how high you mow your grass?

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Speaker 1: Is there like a number that you have or a

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Speaker 1: more a more setting? Yeah? I have a rider, right,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I usually well, I like to cut it

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Speaker 1: at four. Six is the highest setting, so I drop

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Speaker 1: it to like four. Um, that's about as low as

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Speaker 1: I can go without running the risk and burning the

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Speaker 1: grass out. So I cut it. I like to get

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Speaker 1: it down to four so it's still not squirrelly. A

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Speaker 1: week later, it needs a cut, but it doesn't look

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Speaker 1: awful where I'm embarrassed to come out of my house.

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Speaker 1: See I cut mine at three. Yeah, I can't do

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Speaker 1: that though, like my housing starts bumping into stuff, tree roots,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I can't go that low. See I go,

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Speaker 1: I go three, and it works pretty good. And except

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Speaker 1: for this last you know, after I haven't been able

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Speaker 1: to do it. You kind of cut it higher. I went.

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Speaker 1: I went three and a half this last or two

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Speaker 1: times two cuts ago, and it looked good. But when

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Speaker 1: I cut it at three, it's almost like not at three.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's way lower than that. Right, So

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Speaker 1: I might do it at three and a half again

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Speaker 1: this week, But you got to cut twice the other day.

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Speaker 1: You cut it at five and then back down to form. Then,

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Speaker 1: because I try to bag the front, and when I

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Speaker 1: bagged the front, it clogs up my my grass tube.

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Speaker 1: That sends it to my baggers in the back of it.

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Speaker 1: And then you gotta stop, You gotta get off, You

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Speaker 1: gotta declog your tube. Oh my god. That's the bane

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Speaker 1: of all guys who mow their own laws and your

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Speaker 1: bag it is to stop and pick up a stick

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Speaker 1: or some log that's fallen or whatever, some other some

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Speaker 1: toy in the yard. You gotta stop get off, you know,

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Speaker 1: set the machine so it doesn't like turn completely off

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Speaker 1: and run off, throw that out of the way, or

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Speaker 1: get off and unclogged yours. That's having to get off

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Speaker 1: the machine is the worst possible thing. I didn't and

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Speaker 1: everybody I hate it. I'll mo my lawn. You put

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Speaker 1: the bows headphones on with the phone, you got music,

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Speaker 1: and you just go out and drive. I hate to

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Speaker 1: have to stop and get off the thing, but I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I motored a three and a half, a

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Speaker 1: little longer than usual, but I gotta go right back.

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Speaker 1: I can mow it again, because is it the bad

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Speaker 1: season we gotta get Once you get to like late

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Speaker 1: June July, you can cut it once every two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even once every ten days two weeks is good. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's great because it starts to it stops growing.

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Speaker 1: So I'm good with that. But it's yeah, I got

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Speaker 1: to do that this afternoon after we get off. This year,

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Speaker 1: I gotta jump out and get on the get on

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Speaker 1: the mower. But it's yeah, it's perfect weather. It's absolutely

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Speaker 1: perfect weather. And now it's starting to cloud up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get some rain maybe later. But still it was good.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you got in the you jumped in the pool. See,

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Speaker 1: I got a pond. Pond's good for me. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know you got your your man made pond. There. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen that? Have you been? Did you come to

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Speaker 1: the party at once to point or what? No? No,

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Speaker 1: never been? But you got you stock that with fish, dude,

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Speaker 1: adn't you? Yeah? I got fishing there. I got some

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Speaker 1: nice large I got largemouth bass, and I got some

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Speaker 1: some of those carp things that you get which started

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Speaker 1: out about three inches long and now they're two feet long. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now they'd eat your arm right now. They're like sea monsters.

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Speaker 1: So and it's been you know, it's been fifteen years

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Speaker 1: of year, right, And you're right, it's the weirdest thing.

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Speaker 1: There was no spring this year. Zero. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: It was snow and two weeks ago. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about that yesterday. It's just it's global warmings.

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Speaker 1: It's it's more than just global warming. I think I

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Speaker 1: think there's something weird going north. I don't know. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot to talk about today. We're going

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Speaker 1: it's not the weather right right. We got a Twitter

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Speaker 1: on the league. The league is starting to tweak the

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Speaker 1: rules and get some stuff down there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've heard about the coaching. The fundamental changes they've

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Speaker 1: made to UM the way coaches are hired and assistance

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Speaker 1: also UH interview for jobs, and the way they can

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Speaker 1: move about the league has been widely has been really

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Speaker 1: changed fundamentally, and I think it's a it's fun a

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Speaker 1: little bit harrowing to think about how that's going to

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Speaker 1: change the league. I think it's going to change it

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Speaker 1: way more than than they anticipate. With this, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: think it's just going to be a thing now. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is as possible. This is an opportunity for a

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Speaker 1: deep discussion here because there are a lot of things

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Speaker 1: can come from this, especially for teams that have enjoyed

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Speaker 1: a lot of continuity, like the Bills, who are entering

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Speaker 1: year three with the same offense they've been defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: to and now they want to stay there. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be I think even more challenging to stay at

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Speaker 1: that level. Yeah, I agree. We also have a Twitter

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Speaker 1: their ability to move And for those of you who

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Speaker 1: don't know, for instance, the Bills blocked Brian day Ball

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Speaker 1: And of course we know also Brian day Ball was

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Speaker 1: So Brian day Ball was in high demand this offseason,

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Speaker 1: was really in the loop for some of these jobs

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Speaker 1: There have also been cases around the league. Happens every year,

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Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of gamesmanship, no question, But

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Speaker 1: here's the way they're going to enforce it. The teams

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Speaker 1: have to write down what every coach does every team,

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Speaker 1: and the league will look at the language that one

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Speaker 1: at what the other team is asking him to do

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Speaker 1: the league will make a make a ruling saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this guy can move to that job. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: a promotion that he can grow in his career, and

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Speaker 1: we got a Twitter poll, well, who do you want

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's biggest rivalry to be? And why? Do

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Speaker 1: you want a team in the AFC East or do

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Speaker 1: you want a team outside the division? Who and why?

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Speaker 1: You can vote at eight O three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty brownie,

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Speaker 1: and I will be taking your calls all day. If

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Speaker 1: it's obvious. Two right now, if you're in the early going,

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Speaker 1: seventy three percent of the people want it to be

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Speaker 1: somebody in the AFC East, And I think that I

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Speaker 1: get it. Because you see him twice a year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And if the rivalry is outside the division, you may

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs every year. And there they are, right,

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Speaker 1: which is fun? Which is fun? I think it's I think,

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Speaker 1: tell you grow the hate, right right? You got you

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Speaker 1: gotta see him every year twice? Yeah, little hostility is

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Speaker 1: good for the soul, right right. So for the fans

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Speaker 1: long felt that the Patriots are our arrival. I can

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Speaker 1: And here's another thing about that too, Brownie, the games

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Speaker 1: have to mean something, you know, playoff rivalry a division title.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons we were such bitter rivals with

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins back in the nineties was the fact

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Speaker 1: that it was always for the vision title. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Jets weren't there, and early on, the Colts weren't

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Speaker 1: Patrons weren't ready to compete then either. It was about

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Speaker 1: the Bills and the Dolphins in that era and that

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Speaker 1: point in history, and it was every year playing them

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Speaker 1: element to why you want your team to be have

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Speaker 1: a rivalry and the division is that you can play

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Speaker 1: them for a meaningful game in the regular season instead

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Speaker 1: of waiting for the playoffs. And I think that's a big,

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Speaker 1: big aspect that goes into this. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: there aren't some intriguing candidates, you know, outside the division

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Speaker 1: in the AFC Conference. Like you just think alone about

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Speaker 1: a team like the Tennessee Titans. They've played that team

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Speaker 1: of the last five years YEA and two of them

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Speaker 1: got performance based pay, you know, based on his production.

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Speaker 1: So that was a nice thing that they put in

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Speaker 1: there to kind of cover guys who might feel like

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Speaker 1: they are getting short changed if they overachieve and proved themselves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it makes it possible for the late round picks

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Speaker 1: to get paid like they deserve instead of just being

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Speaker 1: slotted where the club feels like they can. And I

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Speaker 1: it's it's a great safeguard for the late round draft

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Speaker 1: picks and the rookie free agents and all those guys.

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Speaker 1: And it's just just makes a lot of sense. It's

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Speaker 1: a much better place for the league to be. And

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Speaker 1: and the Bills just with one remaining guy, plus they've

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Speaker 1: got all the undrafted free agents they've signed as well,

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Speaker 1: all these guys under contract and the and now the

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Speaker 1: question becomes Brownie that we finally get to is uh,

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Speaker 1: we're starting to hear murmurings of the league's starting to

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Speaker 1: crack open the door. And we've said it from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: The league really got lucky with the timing of this.

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Speaker 1: They can watch now the the NHL is gonna start

447
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Speaker 1: it up, twenty four teams in the playoffs. Here they go.

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Speaker 1: The NBA is gonna play with no fan all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. I don't think Major League Baseball is

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Speaker 1: gonna get it together. Um they've got a proposal. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and this is the same thing with the NFL

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Speaker 1: and JC Treder, who we've had on the shows, and

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Speaker 1: Acron Kid and I know him really well. He has

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Speaker 1: said publicly Listen, the NFLPA has not agreed to any

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Speaker 1: reopening plan yet, so don't think they've decided on anything,

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Speaker 1: but certainly they are talking about it. But the Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball wants to was playing eighty two game season

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Speaker 1: and slash everybody's pay. And it's not just as easy

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Speaker 1: as making half the money you're supposed to make, right

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and but here's the thing, Like they were

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Speaker 1: originally given that fifty fifty revenue split proposal and they

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Speaker 1: rejected that. So the owners are like, well, look, we're

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Speaker 1: losing our shirt here. We're gonna have to pro rate

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Speaker 1: your pay or cut your pay. And they're just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: hold on, a second. And so I think there's an

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Speaker 1: element of mistrust here on the part of the players

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Speaker 1: with respect to ownership, because I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball players, I think there's a sense that

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Speaker 1: they feel the owners are trying to divide the union

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Speaker 1: by with this proposal. You're hitting those high earners super hard.

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Speaker 1: You got a guy that's making twenty million, now he's

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Speaker 1: only going to make five. Meanwhile, the low end paid

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Speaker 1: guys are either getting pro rated to a point where

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Speaker 1: they're making still more than half of what they normally

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Speaker 1: would make. It's taking care of the lessers, the have nots,

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Speaker 1: if you will, in Major League Baseball, and and and

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Speaker 1: pinching you know, the big earners. So what you're saying

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Speaker 1: is the ultra rich owners are coming up with a

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Speaker 1: tax system to hurt the big earners. Right, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get into the right but the players are saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for trying to turn us into the bad guys

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Speaker 1: and trying to divide our union. So it's I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's gotten better. I think it's gotten worse and

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Speaker 1: more acrimonious here. So yeah, I would tend to agree

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Speaker 1: with you, Steve. I think and baseball. What an opportunity

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Speaker 1: they have, you know what I mean, Like they could

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Speaker 1: they should grab the entire live sports universe in this

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Speaker 1: country if they would just get back to playing. And

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Speaker 1: I know this is probably easier said than done, but

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Speaker 1: why can't they just say, hey, look, this deal isn't great,

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Speaker 1: but it's only for this year, and as long as

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Speaker 1: we have makeups or make goods for twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: you know we would get at least some of this

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Speaker 1: money back. Let's just go play man and and capture

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Speaker 1: you know, a sports starved United States audience. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is your chance to get on the board first.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people are watching Korean baseball on ESPN right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I mean, Like they're

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Speaker 1: watching a Holy Moli on a right, They're watching, They're

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Speaker 1: watching They're watching Phil and Tiger with Peyton and Tom

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Speaker 1: and Riveted. It's you know, they're making it the highest

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Speaker 1: rated cable A program of all time was around a

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Speaker 1: golf that was played in pouring rain. So yeah, I

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00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: think it's a missed opportunity, but there's not much they

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Speaker 1: can do about it because they've got all agreed to

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Speaker 1: get back when they get back to work. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: take it's gonna take a lot of logistics and a

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Speaker 1: lot of personal sacrifice for these guys to come back

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Speaker 1: and play, because there isn't it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: risk free, but they're trying to compensate them accordingly, I

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Speaker 1: would think. But in the NHL is the only group

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Speaker 1: that has put forth at least the initial layout of

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Speaker 1: what their plan is going to be, you know, twenty

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Speaker 1: four team playoff thing, which is exciting. What I found

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Speaker 1: interesting is they still haven't decided whether it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a seed in playoff field of twenty four teams

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Speaker 1: or whether it's just gonna be like March Madness with

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Speaker 1: a twenty four team bracket. And so if you advance,

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Speaker 1: you play whoever's in your pod there in the bracket. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got to seat it though, right, They gotta have

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Speaker 1: two probably twelve two twelve team brackets seated one through twelve.

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Speaker 1: One plays twelve, two plays eleven, that kind of thing, right, right,

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Speaker 1: they will, They don't. They don't care about inner conference

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Speaker 1: or inner divisions, right, I mean, just play it, right,

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Speaker 1: But you're if you do a true tournament style, you're

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Speaker 1: not reseating anybody. You're not repositioning anybody. So if a

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Speaker 1: twelve knocks off a one, yeah, the next the next round,

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Speaker 1: six or a seven's playing a twelve, So that's a

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Speaker 1: huge edge. If if there's an upset and I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, I can't remember who the number one and

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Speaker 1: the number twelve is. You know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: it's so off my radar at this point. But we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see who do you want to be the Bill's

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Speaker 1: next big rival? You can call us an eight to

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty later on in they In this show,

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Speaker 1: we've got Charles Robinson from Yahoo's Sports. He's the senior

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Speaker 1: NFL reporter in NFL Insider. You also host the Yahoo

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Speaker 1: Sports NFL podcast. He's been covering the NFL for yahooson

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Charles Robinson is going to join

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Speaker 1: us later. Give us a call. You can jump in

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Speaker 1: on the conversation. Got a lot to talk about the

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Speaker 1: assistant coaches, draft picks, a lot of stuff going on,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the teams are coming back into the facilities

545
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Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Steve Task along with

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown on One Bill's Live, coming to you till

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Speaker 1: three o'clock. Come back and join us. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Lives Keep Past. Along with Chris Brown, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about the Bills and also the opening up of the

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Speaker 1: of the sports leagues around the country. We're also talking

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Speaker 1: about who you want the next Big Bill's rivalry to be.

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Speaker 1: Is it somebody in the AFC East or is it

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Speaker 1: somebody outside the division. It's an interesting question about seventy two.

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Speaker 1: You say you want somebody inside the division so you

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Speaker 1: can see him twice. Twenty eight percent of him have

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Speaker 1: somebody else in mind. And we've got some people who

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Speaker 1: are chiming in on the tweet sheet. The tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

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Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. Number one from the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet from sipping the kool Aady is, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the Patriots, their biggest rival has always been outside

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Speaker 1: the division. The Colts had there with pet manning, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos the Chiefs. We need to dominate the division and

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Speaker 1: make our biggest rival the best of the rest of

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Speaker 1: the outside of the division. Hold on, let me read

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Speaker 1: that again, the division and make our biggest rival the

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Speaker 1: best of the rest outside the division. That's when you

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Speaker 1: know you're a good team. The Chiefs make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: That's from sipping the kool laid. Well, it'd be nice

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Speaker 1: to be a rival of the Chiefs because that means

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Speaker 1: the Bills are even better than they were last year.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a this is a rung by

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Speaker 1: rung approach that the Bills are trying to take here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're in that upper echelon peak

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Speaker 1: part of the conference just yet. I think they're on

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Speaker 1: their way. But yeah, I mean, if if the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are your number one rival, that means you're probably in

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Speaker 1: the AFC title game more often than not, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And that's why that's why the Patriots had the Colts

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Speaker 1: as a rival after they left the division, because it

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Speaker 1: was Manning and Brady for so many years, and then

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Speaker 1: the Broncos after that, because it was still Manning and Brady. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, And it makes a lot of sense because

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Speaker 1: Patriots are always there and with Peyton Manning that the

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Speaker 1: Colts were always there. They met every year in a

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Speaker 1: game that really meant something. I said that earlier about

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Speaker 1: how these games got to be meaningful for these rivalries

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Speaker 1: to really take shape, and you've got it's got to

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Speaker 1: impact a season that everybody's already invested in when you

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Speaker 1: get late in the season in the playoffs, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it means. We also have one from Nick from

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. The Titans won't necessarily be a rival

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Speaker 1: since we won't usually play them that often, but our

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Speaker 1: games against them have become very intriguing. We've played the

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Speaker 1: past few years and the games were very close. Now

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Speaker 1: we're both considered AFC title candidates, so the games should

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Speaker 1: be great, and that's right playing again this year and

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Speaker 1: play them down in Tennessee again this year. The Bills

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Speaker 1: went down there and beat them last year, and I

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Speaker 1: think I don't know, not really for Bills fans, but

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Speaker 1: for people around the country. I think that was that

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Speaker 1: an unexpected victory at that point. I think it maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was or not at that

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Speaker 1: point because Mariota was still the starting quarterback, and that's

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Speaker 1: right after that game is when they made the change

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Speaker 1: to Tannehill, right, I think the Titans were like a

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Speaker 1: field goal favorite or a two and a half or something.

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Speaker 1: It was a tight a tight spread or if I

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Speaker 1: remember right from that Week five game last year, and

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Speaker 1: we all remember the Bills fan takeover of that stadium,

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Speaker 1: which was fantastic to witness firsthand. But I think that

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Speaker 1: so there is you know, as much as I poked

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Speaker 1: fun at your comment about being a fun place to

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Speaker 1: travel to, I think there is some merit to that

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Speaker 1: as far as fans are concerned, and they don't mind

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Speaker 1: traveling there. You know, it's not a super long trip,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the downtown entertainment district and what it

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Speaker 1: has to offer is certainly appealing to any fan making

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Speaker 1: a road trip. So you have all of that, and

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Speaker 1: then I still think there's there's value in knowing that

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Speaker 1: they're a team with a very similar style to that

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Speaker 1: of the Bills, at least so far. They might rely

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Speaker 1: on the ground game even more, you know, with the

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Speaker 1: guy that they have in Tarick Henry, but I think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of similarities there. I think Vrabel and

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Speaker 1: McDermott are kind of cut from the same cloth as

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Speaker 1: head coaches, So I think because they're both AFC teams

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Speaker 1: on their way up and the fact that their coaches

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Speaker 1: kind of breathe the same kind of life into their teams,

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Speaker 1: and they play similar ways both on offense and defense.

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Speaker 1: I just and their games are tight as a set.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're real health. That's entertaining. That helps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question about a eight, three, five fifty or one fifty.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call if you want to get on

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Speaker 1: the on the conversation, who do you want them to

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Speaker 1: be the Bill's next big rival? From Tiffany on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, she says, the Patriots have been the gold

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Speaker 1: standard in the division for years, in my opinion. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, the Bills are ready to compete with them

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Speaker 1: for the division and championship. Even with Brady gone, they

642
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: still have a team with a winning tradition. It's time

643
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Speaker 1: for us to reverse the trend of losing two games

644
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: a year to them. Right. Sean McDermott has yet to

645
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Speaker 1: be to beat the Patriots as head coach of the Bills.

646
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Speaker 1: I think that's got to stick in being thorn in

647
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: his side, don't you think. I mean, he wants to

648
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: win every game, no question, and every season's different and

649
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: every game is different, but those games have been ultimately close.

650
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Speaker 1: Both games last year were nail biters and came down

651
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Speaker 1: to one or two plays. Yeah, and those those are

652
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Speaker 1: the kinds of games that boil a coach's blood, don't

653
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Speaker 1: they And the players too. Players, that's a teeth gritter

654
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Speaker 1: at the end when you got to go do the

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Speaker 1: handshake with the coach. Yeah, those are hard ones. That's

656
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Speaker 1: a blood boiler, for sure. You're right, You're you gotta

657
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: think right and that I think. I think teams in

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Speaker 1: your division that you see twice a year, particularly a

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Speaker 1: team like the Patriots, I don't think that's going away

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Speaker 1: for the Jets and Dolphins and Bills anytime soon. I

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00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: think for about a decade or as long as anybody

662
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Speaker 1: in the organization is familiar with what the Patriots have

663
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Speaker 1: been doing the past twenty years. I think they want

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Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots a thousand to nothing. Every time

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Speaker 1: they pay play or they want to embarrasses, they want

666
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Speaker 1: to payback. It's all caps payback, right, I mean, it's

667
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: with exclamation points running out, it's yeah, it's all of that.

668
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Speaker 1: So I but here's the thing. You'd be surprised how

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Speaker 1: quickly it'll change if the Patriots go back into where

670
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Speaker 1: they were for so many decades being a doormatum. It

671
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: will get quick. You'll people will be like, ah, nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: You know, it'll be that one of those games because

673
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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything, right, games that the rivalries come from.

674
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: Games that means something. And that's that's gonna be true

675
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Speaker 1: going forward. And we just don't know who those games

676
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Speaker 1: are going to be with well, And and like I

677
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Speaker 1: said earlier, there's got to be some give and take

678
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: there too. It can't just be we got this one

679
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Speaker 1: in the bag this week. You know, it's got to

680
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Speaker 1: be learner. I think we can win this one, you know,

681
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Speaker 1: if we do these things. And though you know that

682
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: kind of thing, I think a fan's got to go

683
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Speaker 1: in saying, well, you know, I think we got a shot.

684
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Speaker 1: But man, it's this is not a sure thing. I

685
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: think that adds a little bit of intrigue and nerves

686
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Speaker 1: to the to the whole thing, and that makes it

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Speaker 1: more entertaining too. All Right, we've got we've got on

688
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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. Who do you want the Bill to be?

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Speaker 1: The Bill's next big rival. We also have a phone

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Speaker 1: call from Dennis from Buffalo. We're gonna try and take

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Speaker 1: a call Brownie, this is a first for you and

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Speaker 1: I on the show. Dennis from Buffalo. You're on the line.

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Speaker 1: You're talking to Stephen, Stephen, Chris, go ahead, what's on

694
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Speaker 1: your mind? Guys are very entertaining, you know. I listened

695
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: to every day. I learned a lot. But he helps

696
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: and the bells, so we couldn't beat the topers and

697
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: what everybody. It was until we finally got the game.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills a player AFC or two times

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00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: city the teams, it's gotta be twice a two games

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Speaker 1: a year in order to have the real rivalry. I

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00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: would like to see the Bills. Uh. Oh, just as

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Speaker 1: he was, just as he was about to tell us

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Speaker 1: what he wanted to see. Uh, he thinks it has

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Speaker 1: to be. I think what he had told us before

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Speaker 1: he came on was that he thinks the rivalry has

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Speaker 1: to be inside the division. Um and I and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that, and I get it. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people feel the same way, Brownie. Are you leaning that

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Speaker 1: way ultimately? Well? Yeah, and there's and here's another thing

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Speaker 1: that we haven't even touched on with respect to the

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Speaker 1: rival being within your division. You know, we've talked about

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Speaker 1: the two game thing. Any how, you have to see

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Speaker 1: him twice a year, as Dennis the calls that was meant.

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Speaker 1: There's a revenge element there because if if the first

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Speaker 1: meeting doesn't go the way you wanted it to, now

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Speaker 1: you're looking all the more forward to that second meeting,

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Speaker 1: right right, I mean, yeah, I mentioned it. Yeah, you're

718
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Speaker 1: gonna go chasing them. You know, all seasons got you

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Speaker 1: got a game where all of a sudden that things

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Speaker 1: marked in red pen from yeah and bold faced and underlined,

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Speaker 1: particularly when they see that was around it, right, particularly

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Speaker 1: when they get one they don't deserve, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: you think back. I'll give you an example, and then

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Speaker 1: some of the older listeners might remember this nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: nine in the off season after nineteen eighty eight, when

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Speaker 1: the Bills went twelve and four, they were also rans

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Speaker 1: for a while, and they had the eighty seven strike

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Speaker 1: season where the Bills were also then and also ran.

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Speaker 1: We had been gotten there, we played a little better,

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Speaker 1: but then in nineteen eighty eight, out of the Blue,

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Speaker 1: Out of the blue, but we went twelve and four,

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Speaker 1: and we're lumping teams up, and we lumped the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: up and coming from the Buffalo Bills. Dolphins didn't like

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Speaker 1: that too much. Don Shula and those guys didn't like

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Speaker 1: having the Buffalo Bills rise up out of nowhere and beating,

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Speaker 1: you know, the mighty Dolphins. Though, that we heard after

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Speaker 1: the eighty eight season was over all through the eighty

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Speaker 1: nine offseason, coming up to eighty nine season, that the

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00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: Dolphins were had their crosshairs on the Buffalo Bills. We

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00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: were their target, they were gonna do it. We opened

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Speaker 1: up with them down in Miami. It was a really

742
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: good game, and it's the game where they had focused

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Speaker 1: on and circled in red and all that, and it's

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: the one you remember where Jim busted in on a

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00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: quarterback draw or I was busted and he busted in

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Speaker 1: last play of the game and he beats him. You

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00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: talk about a gut punch for the Dolphins. That's the

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00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 1: kind of thing that breeds a rivalry, and that from

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Speaker 1: that moment on, there was a level of disdain between

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Speaker 1: those two teams that carried through a number of years

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Speaker 1: after that, all the way through Don Shula and Marv

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00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: Levy's rivalry and Jim Kelly and Dan and all those guys.

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00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: That game cemented it so with that in mind, Steve,

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Speaker 1: can you shed some light on how intense or heated

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Speaker 1: the second meeting was after that game later in the season.

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Speaker 1: Do you recall any parts of that game? Well, I

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00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: played him so many times, it's hard to envision that game.

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Speaker 1: But the one I remember it was not in eighty nine.

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00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember it all to take to give you

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Speaker 1: this one. There were three weeks that at the end

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Speaker 1: of eighty ninety three, somewhere in there where we played

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins for the division title late in the year

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, and we beat them, and then they had

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Speaker 1: to come back to Buffalo in the playoffs. I think

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Speaker 1: it was like ninety one. I can't be sure. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, but I remember that because we knew that

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Speaker 1: if we were gonna we figured we were gonna meet

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and the winner of the game meant

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Speaker 1: that's who got the home game. And this game was

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo late in the year. And I'll never forget

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00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: Marinos skitter around one time. I'll never forget Dan gets

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00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: chased by Bruce towards our sideline, going towards the scoreboard

773
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Speaker 1: end and he throws it. It's incomplete and he kind

774
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Speaker 1: of ends up on the ground, right, he picks himself

775
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: up and starts to run out. We're chirping at him,

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00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: right because we we all know and when we've been

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Speaker 1: playing against him and we're we're chirping at him from

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Speaker 1: our sidelines, and he doesn't act like he hears us.

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Speaker 1: And then after we kind of paused for a minute

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Speaker 1: in our in our smack talk to him, he kind

781
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: of turns around and looks at us, he goes All

782
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: he said was I'll be back, right, meaning he was

783
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Speaker 1: gonna come back and play us in the playoffs. And

784
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Speaker 1: it's one of the coolest things a guy ever did

785
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Speaker 1: to me. And when I was when I had the

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Speaker 1: upper hand, we were talking smack to him, Me and

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Speaker 1: Metz Lars and all our offensive guys were standing over there,

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Speaker 1: and he just looked turned and looked as he says,

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Speaker 1: I'll be back, and he and you know, of course,

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Speaker 1: three weeks later in the playoffs, he was he came

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Speaker 1: back and played us in the playoffs. We beat him

792
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: then too, But that doesn't mean that is I mean,

793
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Speaker 1: what he did in the first meeting wasn't kind of cool,

794
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: but there was an animosity there. You just knew you

795
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: were gonna see those guys. That's part of a rivalry,

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00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: you know. For the season to mean anything, you gotta

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00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: punch those guys. And that's a rivalry. And it's fun.

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00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: It's fun for the players, it's fun for the coaches,

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00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: it's fun for the fans and uh and there's always

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Speaker 1: meaning behind it. And that's that's what I remember, you

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00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: know about that. There's a there's a bunch of moments

802
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: I remember, but there's a ton of games. I mean, right,

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00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: I played eleven and a half years for the Bills,

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00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: and I played those guys twenty three times. So there's

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00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of bagage. I carry a lot

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00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: of emotional baggage with that. All Right, we're gonna got

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00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: bron We gotta take a break, Brownie comeback after Charles

808
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: Robinson's gonna come on from Yahoo Sports. We've got our

809
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Twitter poll. Who do you want them Bill's next big

810
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: rivalry to be? You can call us as well at

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Speaker 1: eight h three oh five fifty or eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifties Steeve Tasker Chris Brown on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in One Bill's Live Steve Task alone with Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about rivalries and who do you want the

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00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's next big rivalry to be? We've got you

817
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: can give us a call and get on the conversation

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Speaker 1: eight three five fifty or one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifteen. We also have a caller on the line, Brad,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind? On your mind, Brad, you're talking

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Speaker 1: with Brownie and Steve. Hey, guys, it's my belief that's

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Speaker 1: the whole rivalry thing. I just think that's more or

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Speaker 1: less the thing of the past, just because the roster

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: turnovers on all these teams. Now, you don't have the

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00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: same teams every year as I think they should. Me personally,

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Speaker 1: fake did should get rid of the divisions just to

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Speaker 1: have an afcnafe and you played different teams every year.

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Speaker 1: That's my belief. Interesting, and I get that. I think

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Speaker 1: you'll get a lot of pushback from the tradition lists.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how to know how you feel

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Speaker 1: about this. Thank you for the call, Brad, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this, Brownie. But you'd

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Speaker 1: get so. One of the reasons they do that is

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Speaker 1: because it gives it was a way that the NFL

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Speaker 1: could package the NFL for ABC and CBS and NBC

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Speaker 1: so that they could say, Okay, you can have all

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Speaker 1: these games. You can have all these games, you can

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00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: bid on them, right, And one of the packages had

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Speaker 1: all the NFC cities, which was the big markets like

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Speaker 1: New York, Philly, Washington, Dallas, LA at the time, which

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00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: was the RAMS and you know, you can go down

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00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: to the Chicago, you can go down the list. And

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00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: the AFC was the town's like you know, Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis and all of that, the smaller market teams and

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Speaker 1: the AFL traditionally, but TV was one of the reasons

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00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: they did that so they could package it for that.

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00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: That was the AC NFC conference. But I wouldn't be

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00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: as it doesn't surprised me. I haven't really thought about

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Speaker 1: doing a way with divisions. What do you think, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how. You don't. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you do that and still maintain games with meaning, because

852
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: if you have a division with just four teams, you're

853
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: jockeying for position all year long. And I think that's

854
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: an extra added incentive knowing the importance of a division champion.

855
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: If you go to a conference format, now you're just

856
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: seating them one through what is it seven now with

857
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: the extra playoff team in each conference, so you're seeing

858
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: them one through seven. To be a temptation to do

859
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: it only in your own conference around robin season, and

860
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: we know, we know all the efforts the league went

861
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: to went through to make games more competitive at the

862
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: end of the season by putting a lot of division

863
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: games at the end of the year. Well why did

864
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: they do that? Because if you have a third place

865
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: team that's only a game and a half out of

866
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: first and they got three games to play, they get

867
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: a chance to make up some ground, especially if they're

868
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: playing division opponents. If you're the tenth seed in a

869
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: sixteen team conference and you're three games out of a

870
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: playoff spot and you're not playing any of those teams

871
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that are five, six, or seven, are you playing as

872
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: hard the last three weeks of the season. I don't

873
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: know that you are. So I think there's some unintended

874
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: consequences there that you probably don't want to entertain. And

875
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: then to take her to step further with his first point,

876
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: saying talking about the turnover on rosters, Yeah, I get

877
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: all that but that's why quarterbacks again are so important

878
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: and so polarizing. And that's why I may jump in

879
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: your boat, Steve, for a division rival and go with

880
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: the Jets, because you know, Darnold and Allen in all

881
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: likelihood are going to be in those spots for the

882
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: next decade, and that is what drives the rivalry, their

883
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: relationship being buds. And then also the fact that you know,

884
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: at least those two guys are gonna be there every year,

885
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: and those are the guys with the ball in their

886
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: hand every play. Right, There's a lot to be said

887
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: for that, and I get it too. And we've had

888
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: we've had conversations about realignment. I don't know if you've

889
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: ever thought about realignment. There's a million obviously, I don't

890
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: know if a million, but I'm there's every way possible

891
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: to to carve up the league into divisions. I think traditionally,

892
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, New York, Philly, Washington, Dallas have been in

893
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: the NFC East. They used to have the Cardinals in

894
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: there as well, when there were five team divisions and

895
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: all of that. But here the thing that gets me, Brownie,

896
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: is to me, it might be more fun if you

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: just do it listen, put La and New York in

898
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: the same division, the Jets, Giants face the Rams Chargers.

899
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: They can all be in one division and then go

900
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: down the line and be Chicago, Dallas, Philly would be No,

901
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: would be Washington, Philly, Dallas and Chicago in the next

902
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: division because they're the next biggest markets. And then it

903
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: would be like Houston. It would be even go down

904
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: the list there and the Buffalo would be in with

905
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay, New Orleans and Jacksonville. That would be our division.

906
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: If you did it by size alone and just went

907
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: all the way just in the pecking order, all the

908
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: way down the line. So you want to do it

909
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: market size wise. I I was kind of a fan

910
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: of geographic which is why I was always a proponent

911
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: of especially back in two thousand and two when Houston

912
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: came in and they finally made the eight four team divisions. Right.

913
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of Baltimore and Buffalo kind

914
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: of swapping spots where Baltimore goes to the AFC East

915
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: with New York, Miami and New England and Buffalo being

916
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: technically the beginning of the Midwest or on the fringes

917
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: of the Midwest. You just there with Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Cincinnati.

918
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo is west of Pittsburgh. I mean, yeah, so I

919
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: would just stick him in with all those all those

920
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: teams in the AFC North. There's a way now every

921
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: road game's drivable for Bills fans in the division. Yeah,

922
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: it makes a difference there. But also you'd probably start

923
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: getting and I don't think the league wants this too much,

924
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: you'd get regional football. Whereas all the teams in the

925
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: for instance, if you call the Bills and the Ravens

926
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh if it was the NCFC North, the AFC

927
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: North would play a certain brand of football because they're

928
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: all in the same region the same and they have

929
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: the same kind of buildings, they have the same kind

930
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: of uh stadiums, all of that would be the same.

931
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: So you'd have a brand of football you'd have to

932
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: play to be successful there because of the elements and

933
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: because of the you know the h well, the elements basically,

934
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: then you could have Then you have a different kind

935
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: of football in Miami, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, you know like that,

936
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: and Atlanta because they play in the heat, they'd play

937
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: a different kind of game. So uh, it would cause

938
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: it'd be cause for you know, a different type of

939
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: football to be played at around There's a lot of

940
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: going on there with with alignment. I could talk about

941
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: realignment forever. I think it's a really interesting topic. But

942
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: we don't have to do that. We can talk to

943
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: you about our Twitter poll. Who do you want the

944
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: next Bill's rivalry to be? You can give us a

945
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: call at eight O three oh five fifty or eight

946
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown,

947
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back later to show. Charles Robinson from

948
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah Sports is going to join us as well. Give

949
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: us a call, We'll be right back. This is Buffalo

950
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio and this is One Bills Live. Oh A

951
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 1: great time old by Steve Tasker. Good to touch down

952
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: to down TX do tast time. Welcome back to One

953
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Steve task along with Chris Brown, we're talking

954
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: about the Bills and whose rivalry. Who are there going

955
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: to be a rival with next? Who do you want

956
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: to be the next Bills big rivalry? Who do you

957
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: want that to be with? Somebody inside the AFC easter

958
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: is it somebody outside the conference? We're taking calls. We're

959
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: talking back and forth about a variety of topics as well.

960
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: At eight O three five fifty or one eight eight

961
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. We've got Mark on the line,

962
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: who has wants to join the conversation. Mark, you're on

963
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: with Steve and Chris. Go ahead, gentlemen, Good afternoon. How

964
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: are you great? Good? Hey? The reason I was compelled

965
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: to call is this rivalry thing. I think there's an

966
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: angle that hasn't been mentioned yet. It's the role that

967
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: the league play in making these rivalries even more intense.

968
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, I'm sixty one

969
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: years old. They've been a or Bills and the Sabers

970
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: fan since I was born, basically, and he had seasons

971
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: for or thirty years for the Bills. And there's so

972
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: many games going back to the losing streak against Miami

973
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: where Bills fans seemed feel that you've been robbed by

974
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: what we would call a really bad call, which has

975
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: went several of those games in the streak to have

976
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: been lost. And then the same thing with New England.

977
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: You can point to a number of games where really

978
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: really bad, afficiating calls have have wanted to feel like,

979
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, we were close to finally breaking that

980
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: streak and the game was taken away from us. So

981
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: I think that plays a huge, huge part of making

982
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: these rivalriest more intense. Yeah, you're right, the injustice of

983
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: it is huge. And if if you've got if you're

984
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: the point where you feel like you should be beating

985
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: that team and you still can't get it done, that's

986
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: a big problem. And I think, and I think the

987
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: league Now, I don't know if the league can play

988
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: a role in that, and certainly they don't want to

989
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: play a role in that. They don't want they don't

990
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: want to tilt the playing field at all. But well,

991
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I get it, go ahead. I didn't mean that they

992
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: intentionally did it. I'm just saying officials as representatives of

993
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: the league or what however you want to put it. Outside.

994
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of games that there was

995
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: probably a lot more games with Miami as I was

996
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: growing up, or I felt like we lost just because

997
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: they were better than us. You know, there were several

998
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: that I thought, well, you know, we may have gotten

999
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: it done that day, but certainly many more that they

1000
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: just playing were better than us. The New England rivalry,

1001
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story for me. I believe that

1002
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 1: that's been good. But then again, I'm a true Blue

1003
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Bills fan, so I'm a real New England hater, and

1004
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: I begrudgingly give them any any credit for what they've

1005
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: done over the years for obvious reasons. But I just

1006
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: like to say one thing, one other thing before I leave.

1007
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: Chris Brown being on the show. Now, I'm gonna miss Murph,

1008
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: but great choice. I just turned it on today realizing

1009
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: that he's on. I hope it's a permanent thing. And

1010
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: I just got to say, hands down, the two best

1011
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: reporters on Bills and Savers in Buffalo are Chris Brown

1012
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: and Paul Hamilton. They do a great job. A lot

1013
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: of in fight are very informed. So Chris, congratulations and

1014
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: I hope to listen to you for a long time. Well,

1015
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Check is in the mail, so

1016
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: I was unexpected. That's very nice. I appreciate that very much.

1017
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: And Paul Hamilton's a former colleague of mine and a

1018
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: good friend, so it's nice to hear that Paul gets

1019
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: his due as well. We've both been added a while,

1020
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: so it's nice that the fans out there have some

1021
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: appreciation for the work that we try to do. For them,

1022
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: So that's very much appreciated. I will say the one

1023
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: thing that he mentioned that just started ringing like a

1024
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: bell in my head. He was talking about this whole

1025
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: officiating angle, Steve, And for me, I think the reason

1026
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: that the officials began to enter the equation for Bills fans,

1027
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: especially as it pertained to the Patriots rivalry, was because,

1028
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: deep in your gut, I think most Bills fans knew

1029
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: that the Patriots were the better team in a vast

1030
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: majority of those matchups over the better part of the

1031
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: last fifteen to twenty years, and maybe inadvertently so, you

1032
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: were hoping the Bills could get a break or a

1033
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: call somewhere to kind of help at least break up

1034
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: the losing streak to a team like that, and when

1035
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: it didn't happen, or it even went the other way,

1036
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: it felt all the more painful. And I think it

1037
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: was just like digging the knife in even deeper, do

1038
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Oh? Yeah, they were particularly

1039
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: there were some particularly painful losses in that renew England

1040
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: history in the last twenty years, particularly painful, and they

1041
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: all go down to you should have beat them, could

1042
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: have beat them, would have beat him and didn't and

1043
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: it happened again and again, and that kind of gets

1044
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: a fan base riled up. Now the players is a

1045
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: little different because they don't they're not a part of

1046
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: all twenty years of that, you know, they're part of

1047
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: the last two years usually, right, So that's kind of

1048
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: it's a different thing for the fans, but for than

1049
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: it is for the players. And you think about those

1050
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: and what the caller Mark said, and it's it's interesting,

1051
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: it's true. Think about this, if you go down and

1052
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: we play the Texans again, and if we play the

1053
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: Texans again this year, which we do not, and you

1054
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: had another game like that playoff game that win into

1055
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: overtime where you had the guy dead to rights in

1056
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: the pocket and he spins out of it and then

1057
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: two guys bounce off the quarterback on a sack and

1058
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: he ends up making a play that beats you. Those

1059
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: kind of plays stick with you. The Music City Miracle

1060
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: sticks with fans. The comeback game sticks with fans in Houston.

1061
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: You know all those times that where you got them

1062
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: and they get away. You know that Super Bowl twenty

1063
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: eight to three Atlanta lead sticks with the Falcon fans.

1064
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure stuff like that has a tendency to carry

1065
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: on a life of its own, and that continually adds

1066
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: fuel to what could be, you know, just another game. Uh.

1067
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: For some people, it's always a bitter rivalry. You know,

1068
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: some people still hate you know here in Buffalo, you

1069
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: still hate the Cowboys for those for those Super Bowls

1070
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: um and you know, it just happens that way. And

1071
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: it's because you know, not a Super Bowls case, but

1072
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: in well, how about that Monday night game where you

1073
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: lose to a kick and I've missed on side field

1074
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: goal and fine, it's like ah, and the games get

1075
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: away from you. Those games, you know, right, those games,

1076
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, those games carry carry some emotional baggage that

1077
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: you got to get your head around as a fan.

1078
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: Am I right, No, you're you're right. I still regret

1079
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: that Monday night game against the Cowboys and oh five, Uh,

1080
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: not that the Bills were not that the Bills were

1081
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: going anywhere that ye oh seven, it was sorry seven,

1082
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: not that the Bills were going anywhere that year. But

1083
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: that was a chance to be on the national stage

1084
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: and you know, say, hey, you know what a little

1085
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: self respect, this team can do something every once in

1086
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, and to have two defensive touchdowns a

1087
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: special teams touchdown, and it looked like it was a

1088
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: five turnovers. You get five turnovers too, right, Yeah, oh

1089
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, yeah right. Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports coming

1090
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: on at the bottom of the hour, Steve Tasker Law

1091
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown. We're talking about rivalries, what they mean,

1092
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: how do they happen, and who do you want them

1093
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: Bill's next big rival to be? If you want it

1094
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: to be somebody within the division, the Patriots, the Dolphins,

1095
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: the Jets, or do you want it somebody place outside

1096
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: the division? Somebody else? Who do you want it to

1097
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: be with. We've got a lot of tweets from the

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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We can read some of those. Now. You

1099
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: can give us a call at eight h three oh

1100
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: five fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

1101
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: and you know, you go to the tweet sheet and

1102
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: you've got these. You know, people have their own definitions.

1103
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: From Chris, he says, a rival means challenge. It's time

1104
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: the Bills dominate the AFC East and go toe to

1105
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: toe making rivals with strong teams, the Ravens, the Chiefs,

1106
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: the Texans, the Titans, etc. And that's from Chris on

1107
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: the Twitch sheet about the next Bills rivalry is gonna be.

1108
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: I agree with that. You wanted to be the good

1109
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: teams right US four when you that's why the Bill

1110
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: the Patriot fans don't consider the Bills a rivalry, correct,

1111
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: but that was that was the case because they won

1112
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: the division sixteen in the last seventeen years. Uh. I'm

1113
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: all for dominating the AFC East, don't get me wrong,

1114
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: but that actually has to physically happen first, um, and

1115
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: it starts with this year, and if they can win

1116
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: the division, great, and if that can happen again the

1117
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: following year, even better. I am foreseeing a division, not

1118
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: necessarily this year, but in future years here, even as

1119
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: early as twenty twenty one, where it's going to be

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00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: a far more balanced division than we've seen in quite

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: some time. I know you know, for your team, Steve,

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00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: it was largely a two team race with you and

1123
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: with Buffalo and Miami. I could see a more balanced

1124
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: division going forward here, maybe not necessarily this year, as

1125
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, the Dolphins are still trying to build, the

1126
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Jets are trying to get their feedback under them after

1127
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: being devoid of some talent and some key areas. And

1128
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: we know that the Patriots are essentially hitting the reset

1129
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: button at quarterback. So this is a golden opportunity for

1130
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo this year, but beyond this year, if those teams

1131
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: continue to do the right things, the AFC East could

1132
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: be a very, very balanced type division where it could

1133
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: be anybody's division for a long stretch of time if

1134
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks pan out the way these other teams in

1135
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: the division are hoping. Yeah, And you can look at

1136
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: the NFC East years a couple of years ago, where

1137
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: in the past has been it was like a different

1138
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: team in the division one it every year. The Giants

1139
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: won it, then the Cowboys wanted, then the Eagles want it,

1140
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: then the Redskins wanted, then they were back to somebody

1141
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: else when it was a really balanced division, And I

1142
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: think that makes it entertaining. But you also want to

1143
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: be a team that if you don't win the division,

1144
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: you want to be good enough to be slip into

1145
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: the wild card and get another shot at your division rival,

1146
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: maybe in the playoffs or somebody else. Um, if you're

1147
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna have a rivalry that's outside of your division, you've

1148
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: got to be really good and you've got to be

1149
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: really good for a long time. Yeah, playoff team, that's right.

1150
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean that's you know, you're you're

1151
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: talking teams like the Patriots, you're talking teams like the Steelers.

1152
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: You're talking teams like the Ravens. They just seem to

1153
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: always filter up there. Um And that's uh. For the

1154
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: Ravens and the Steelers, it's a little bit like the

1155
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: Bills Miami Dolphins back in the nineties. The Bengals and

1156
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: the Browns can't get out of their own way. They're

1157
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: they're basement dwellers and they're drafting high all the time.

1158
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: So the Steelers and the Ravens can kind of fight

1159
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: over it. That's what makes a rivalry, those two teams.

1160
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: Which one's gonna take it? So that kind of they

1161
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: got some help in the division. And not for nothing, Brownie.

1162
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: We were talking about realignment earlier in the show, and

1163
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but you know, team guys and

1164
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: coaching candidates who get hired as head coaches in the NFL,

1165
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: one of the things they look at when they interview

1166
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: for these jobs is what does the division look like?

1167
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: What does you know the division you're getting like the

1168
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: the AFC South with Indianapolis for Indianapolis, Houston, Jacksonville, and

1169
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: whoever the other one is. I can't, I can't think

1170
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Yeah, Tennessee, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Houston. It was a

1171
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: weak division for a long time. There wasn't a powerhouse

1172
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: team in it. But you go up to the NAFC East,

1173
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: New England's gonna be in the championship game almost every year.

1174
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to get a head coach to say, yeah, Okay,

1175
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: the money's got to be there, but they've got to

1176
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: know that in the division they're going against, up against

1177
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: the biggest, the greatest dynasty maybe in NFL history. That's

1178
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: hard sell for an ownership group, for a GM trying

1179
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: to hire a head coach, and it's a struggle sometimes.

1180
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: And but now you know you can look at and

1181
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: that's what the way head coaching candidates are starting to

1182
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: look at the jobs they entertain. You look at now

1183
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: some guys, and that's why you get guys coming from

1184
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: outside the league. They just want to get in. A

1185
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: guy like Cliff Kingsbury. Now he got fired from a

1186
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: from a college job. Yeah he'll take that job, right,

1187
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: He's got to take the Arizona job. When he's got

1188
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers and you've got the

1189
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and the Rams, who were just in the

1190
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's a tough division to walk into as

1191
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: a rookie head coach. But they did it by hiring

1192
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: a guy that was outside the NFL to begin with.

1193
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: So there's some of that to be said. And if

1194
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: you but if you want to be the guy and

1195
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: you want to be successful, you're going I have to

1196
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: do that and whoever is on your schedule. So if

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01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a right a rival, you got to

1198
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: you gotta put together a good team, and the Bills

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: have done that methodically over the last three years. They've

1200
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: built up a really nice roster, they've got coaching staff

1201
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: that seems to get a lot out of them, and

1202
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: they've got a quarterback that when he plays well, this

1203
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: team is almost impossible to beat. To me, So it's

1204
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: it's it's really fun to be a Bills fan right now.

1205
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: And we're still at that point where I think the

1206
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: team is ascending, even though they won ten games last year,

1207
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of why we're looking around

1208
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: and say Okay, who who's it going to be this year?

1209
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the team that we've got to beat?

1210
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: And that's why this rivalry question is so interesting. Yeah,

1211
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: I want to read this one tweet off the tweet

1212
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: achieved from Jack because I think he brings to the

1213
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: table another element of this discussion with from within the division.

1214
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: So he says, I hope they get good enough for

1215
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: long enough to be considered a rival of the best

1216
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: AFC teams like Casey, Baltimore or Pittsburgh. But that said,

1217
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: I still voted division. I grew up in the late

1218
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties when the fishhead Marino. I love to

1219
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: hate him and them. I want to get that rivalry

1220
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: going again now with two and now on the scene

1221
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: down there, Steve. I mean, it brings up a whole

1222
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: other set of possibilities because you know, not to toot

1223
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: the Dolphins horn here. But I do think Brian Flores

1224
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: is building it the right way. In fact, I think

1225
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: he's building it in much the same way that coach

1226
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: McDermott has built it here in Buffalo. And I think

1227
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: there will be more success for that Dolphins team. I

1228
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: see them being a tough out in the years to come.

1229
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: Anytime you go up against them, there will be no

1230
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: easy victories against that team. I don't think they're there yet,

1231
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: but if two of Pan's out for them, Jack could

1232
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: very well get his wish. And yeah, if you get

1233
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: Bills Dolphins again, not only do you scoop up a

1234
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: whole legion of younger fans who love Josh Allen and

1235
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: will probably learn to hate Tuah, but you have a

1236
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: whole bunch of older fans where this rivalry is kind

1237
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: of rekindled for them. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly,

1238
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: You're right. I mean that that kindles up. There's it's

1239
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: interesting you start reading these tweets from people, and you

1240
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: can tweet us as well. At one Bills Live. Who

1241
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: do you want to be the Bill's next big rivalry?

1242
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: Eight or three oh five fifty if you want to

1243
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: say it on the air, or one eight eight five

1244
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty if you're outside Buffalo the Dolphins.

1245
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm surprised we're getting so much feedback about the Dolphins.

1246
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: You read that one from Jack about the Dolphins and

1247
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: this one from Dinah. She says, I'm hoping it's the Dolphins.

1248
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: When I was young, we vacation in Florida once we

1249
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: saw Dolphins in the water, and that afternoon there was

1250
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: a preseason game rooted for the Finns since we saw them.

1251
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: They lost the Super Bowl that year but won the

1252
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: next two. That should date it right there, back in

1253
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: the early seventies, and was a Finns fan until we

1254
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: moved to Buffalo. Wow, that's a lifetime of rivalry right there.

1255
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: But that's one. I mean, you moved, Wow, you're a

1256
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins fan and then you moved to Buffalo. And I mean,

1257
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: at least she's indicating she switched allegiances, right right. I mean,

1258
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: think about it, that Bills were over the seventies against

1259
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, and there was a handful or less

1260
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: than a handful of games where the Bills had the

1261
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins beat and they got off the hook. And people

1262
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: still remember those games. And there were ten straight years

1263
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: the Bills could not beat Miami or Don Shula, and

1264
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: it's stuck in a lot of people's crawl and they

1265
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: still have some emotional baggage from it, and it's coming

1266
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: out in this Twitter poll today. You know they you

1267
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: can bet there's a whole generation of people they don't

1268
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: care if they live to be ninety. They want to

1269
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots every single time for what the Patriots

1270
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: had done the last two decades, and we're seeing that

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Speaker 1: in this Twitter hole. Yeah. The last one here that

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: we got is from Mike. He said, I'd be okay

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01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: with the division rival just change the divisions. So he's

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of getting back to our realignment discussion. Much rather

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01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: see the Bills in a division with Pittsburgh, Cleveland, since

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: or Detroit than what they're in now that you'd have

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: a rust Belt division. That's what you'd have if you

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Speaker 1: went that way. Yeah, you could have the Great Lakes

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Speaker 1: Division with I mean, if you wanted to realign and

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Speaker 1: do the AFC NFC and throw the whole thing in

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: a pot and pull it out that makes sense geographically

1282
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: and all that, you could have Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: and have the Green and have the Great Lakes Division,

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so and that would be also you

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01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: could have you know, Green Bay is in that division

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: as well. So, but that's one way you could do it,

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Speaker 1: and it's a great idea. I mean, it's fun to

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: think about realignment because I think it could be refreshing

1289
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: to look at the standings differently than we have for

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, the last you know, thirty years with it's

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01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: always the Patriots, always, always the Patriots, always the Dolphins,

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01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: always the Bills, always the Jets, UM and then for

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: a while it was the Indianapolis Colts or the Baltimore

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01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Colts in that division as well. Before it, you know,

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: they got tossed into the into the South. So I

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01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: realignment's fun for me. I could talk about it all day.

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Speaker 1: You can talk about it too at eight three five

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01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: fifty and eight eight eight five fifty two fifty. I

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01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen, but I think it's

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: one of the most intriguing aspects of the league. That

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01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: they could have a lot to do with UM going forward.

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: That could really make it more interesting and in a

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of ways. I think I was just I was

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01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: just thinking of some other geography, because every time we

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01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: talk realignment, we immediately think the Bills. But you imagine

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: if you had like Houston and Dallas in the same

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: division with New Orleans and Arizona, Well, I guess that's

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: the next closest team. Yeah, we could have used to

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01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, that has its roots. You know, they used

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01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: to sex So that's right. That would be crazy. Just

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01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: the intraestate rivalry alone between Houston and Dallas would be

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: at a fevered pitch. Yeah. I think it's really interesting

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: to think about that. And I think the making it,

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01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: making it travelable for you know, fans, is huge for

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: for people here in Buffalo. You could drive to Cleveland,

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: drive to Pittsburgh, you know, um, drive to Cincinnati or

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01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: Indianapolis or one of these closer teams. Detroit, even Detroit. Yeah,

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01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: drive up through Canada to get to Detroit is good too.

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, that let's take a break. We got Charles

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: Robinson coming on the Show's Yahoo's senior NFL reporter. He's

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Speaker 1: got some insights as to how fast or maybe what

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: the league is thinking, or maybe what the hold ups

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: are other than the obvious of it, to what is

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: holding the teams up from opening their facilities up Charles

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01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: Robinson from Yahoo Sports. When we come back, this is

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Welcome back to one of those lives.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown joining us on the line. Now,

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Speaker 1: we're pleased to welcome Charles Robinson. Yahoo's senior NFL reporter insider.

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01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: He's a host of the Yahom Sports NFL podcast. He's

1331
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: been covering the National Football League for y'all who since

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01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Charles Robinson, thanks for joining us,

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. Thanks for

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: coming on. Yeah, what's up. So let'sa you guys doing today?

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01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: Not too much, I mean, he wrote a really interesting article.

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: You seem to have some insight as to maybe how

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: they're going to start the wheels grinding on this NFL

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: season to get rolling. What are your thoughts today on

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01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: when it might happen and what it's going to look like. Well,

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01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to phase in. One thing about

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01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: the off season I've learned, particularly with the union in

1342
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: the NFL trying to structure this thing together, is you know,

1343
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: they're like, let's get one thing out of the way

1344
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to the next thing, Like

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: let's not think three steps ahead, or you know, let's

1346
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: just try to figure out what's the next thing we

1347
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: need to get accomplished. I think the league is looking

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01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: at getting coaches into the facilities next week. I think

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: conservatively have had a couple of sources tell me probably

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: the end of the week next week that they'd like

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: to get head coaches back into the facilities and then

1352
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 1: at that point have a dialogue about is there a space,

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01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: is there an opening at some point for teams, most

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01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: likely on a voluntary basis, to get some players back

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: in the fold before the break. And I don't think,

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's something that would have to

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01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: be worked out with the union. It's you know, I

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: would call it a mini camp, but I think it's

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: not going to be like any mini camp we would

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01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: ever heard before or seen before. It would be on

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: a voluntary basis, you know, And I think it would

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01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: be something that there would be a lot of back

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: and forth between the league and the union. But it's

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01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: clear that you have head coaches, you have front offices

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 1: that are sitting there and saying we look, we're seeing

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,440
Speaker 1: play years out, you know, putting on their own practices

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: with guys Tom Brady's, you know, having little mini practices,

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson having little mini practices. Why can't we get

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01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 1: coaches in here and try to have maybe in a

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: bridge sort of soft opening here if players want to

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Speaker 1: come in and try to take part in this. Can

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Speaker 1: this be something we can pull off? But first they

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01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: need to get to the coaches back into the facilities,

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01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: and I think they really want to get that done

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01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,520
Speaker 1: next week. So Charles, with that in mind, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: that from a government perspective, the league is expecting that

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01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: most of these NFL cities are going to be in

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01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: phase two of reopening. Is that the expectation and why

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01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: they feel bringing the head coaches in as possible as

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: early as late next week. Yeah, I think well, I

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: mean it's the hope. I don't want to say it's

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: the expectation. I think, you know, particularly Gavin Newsom in California,

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01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: I think they feel like, you know, given what the

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: statements that almost made you know, Pennsylvania, they're starting to

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: see movement in state governments that put them in a

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: position that they think that, you know, we can move

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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: on to sort of the next phase of our opening.

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: But they need Gavin Newsom, who made a statement in

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01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: the middle of May Hey the first week of June,

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: he felt like as long as the data was there

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01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: to support it, he could see opening up things to

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01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: the pro sports teams like bringing you know them, basically

1393
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: expanding their operations back to some level of normalcy. But

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom in California, I think that the Leekue feels

1395
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: like that's the domino that's got a fall, that that's

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01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: really the one that if they can get that in

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: place the first week of June, that's really going to

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: boost them and put them in a place where they

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: can you know, from as you said, local jurisdiction of

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: state jurisdiction. You know, everybody's in the face of opening

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01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: where there's no problems getting the coaches in and then

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: starting to talk about now with players, you know, what

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01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: opportunities will be there by the end of June. What

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: kind of spectrum are we looking at, Like you say,

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: California is the domino that has to fall. We here

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: in western New York around Buffalo, the only team in

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01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: New York. We're in a different spot than they are

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01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. And four, how do you play the spectrum

1409
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: of which states are open to it and not? And

1410
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: is dumb? Is California that far behind the curve so

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: that they're the last domino that needs to happen to

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: be able to do it, Because I don't know if

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01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: we're quite there yet here in Buffalo either, right, Well,

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01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: so California, I think the I think it's called the

1415
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: Western States Pack. So there's like five states that have

1416
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: banded together and said, like, hey, in terms of opening

1417
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: our states, we're gonna lean on each other to try

1418
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: and figure out how we want to do this. The

1419
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: five of us are going to try and figure it out.

1420
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: And I want to say three or four NFL teams

1421
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: off the top of my head are in that five

1422
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: Western States pack. But everybody seems to be looking at

1423
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: California because California, you know, Gavin Newson has taken such

1424
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: a hard line on this. You know, whenever anybody brings

1425
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: up games in the past, Gavinuston said, you know, I

1426
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: just can't see it. You know, he's been extremely reticent.

1427
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: And so I think the league feels like if they

1428
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: can get Gavin Newson to say, Okay, we're ready to,

1429
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, open it up enough that if you're going

1430
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: to bring head coaches in and have you know, some

1431
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: sense of normalcy, not a full blown hey, we're bringing

1432
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: all the players in, but but at least get to

1433
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: the point where operationally, you're coaching staffs are in the building,

1434
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: your front offices are in the building and then some

1435
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: of the support staff, the medical staff, things like that.

1436
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: It gives the NFL a ship to play. Like the

1437
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: people have to understand the NFL is communicating with all

1438
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 1: these state governments. I think it's what twenty two states

1439
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: that have NFL teams on a almost a daily basis.

1440
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's constant contact from what I've been told

1441
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: between these these state governments and the NFL. But I

1442
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: think the NFL feels like, hey, if have a newsom's

1443
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: opening up in California, you know, we're going to be

1444
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: able to go to maybe some of the other states

1445
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: that maybe hold out to take We've got this accomplished.

1446
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: Do you feel like we can, you know, get some

1447
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: additional personnel into, you know, our facilities whatever however many

1448
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: franchises may be in those stags. We're talking to Charles

1449
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: Robinson from Yahoo Sports, senior NFL reporter and insider. We're

1450
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: talking about the slow, gradual opening reopening of the National

1451
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: Football League. As we get to this, I didn't realize

1452
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: it was going to be such a given take between

1453
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: the National Football League and the players Union. It seems

1454
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: to me that because they have almost shut down the

1455
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: physical activity the NFL. The Union might be just as

1456
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: happy say, h, whatever you want to do when think

1457
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 1: time comes, go ahead and open it, because we've already

1458
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: had less physical activity than we have up to this point.

1459
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: But what is the union stance and and how is

1460
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: it affected by the by what the league wants to do? Well,

1461
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, the union, the unions in really powerful position,

1462
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: and the union's stance has always to maintain its position

1463
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: of power when it's earned one. And you know, it's interesting.

1464
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: I kind of had a back and forth with JC Trutter,

1465
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: the Browns offensive lineman who is recently voted to the

1466
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: head of he's the president of the players union now.

1467
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: And you know, when I wrote my story, said, hey, look,

1468
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: we haven't agreed to anything. You know, I'm paraphrasing him

1469
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: here that we haven't agreed to anything in terms of

1470
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: mini camps, and he's basically announcing it to players. And

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Speaker 1: as I pointed out to Jc, that's not what I

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01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 1: really wrote. I said, the balls in your court, you know,

1473
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: it says that in the story. And I think the

1474
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: union's you know, spot is we are going to continue

1475
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: to play this conservatively. We're not just going to sign

1476
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: off on you know, players all, you know, rushing back

1477
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: to facilities when the NFL feels like that's that's the

1478
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: space to do it. I think what the Union could

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Speaker 1: could be comfortable with is if coaches get back in

1480
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: the fold and states open up to the point where

1481
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: some players could be brought back into the facility. I

1482
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: think there's space for a conversation between the league and

1483
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: the union about there is there a spot where we

1484
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: can say, hey, we're going to voluntarily open up, you know,

1485
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: some our facilities to players if they want to come

1486
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: in and the coaching staff is here. So rather than

1487
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Lamar Jackson, you know, players being out

1488
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: holding their own sort of workouts out in the public

1489
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 1: in public spaces, come back into the facility, you know,

1490
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: and our coaches will be here, and although it may

1491
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: not be a hard and fast mini camp, it will

1492
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: be a voluntary situation where you can come in and

1493
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: get some work in under the you know, the tutelage

1494
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: of coaches. But I also think the league and the

1495
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: union would most likely agree to leave that up to

1496
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: every single franchise. They're not going to mandate anything. They

1497
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: don't want teams to mandate things to players at the stage.

1498
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: We're not there yet, and so I think it's just

1499
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: being as cautious and slow and as open to push

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01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: back from the players as possible, because they don't want

1501
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: to get into a situation where there's, particularly with health

1502
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: and safety, there's some kind of a you know, bombastic

1503
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 1: exchange between players and franchises, and especially they don't want

1504
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: to get drawn. I mean, look how bad things have

1505
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: gotten in Major League Baseball between the union and the players,

1506
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: and that's over money. I mean, they just don't want

1507
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: to go down that road already. So, Charles, I don't

1508
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: know if you can provide clarity on this, but basically

1509
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: what you're what you're hinting at is there may be

1510
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: a way to preemptively, on a voluntary basis, get players

1511
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: in the building. But are you indicating that that could

1512
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: happen even before some states get to phase four, which

1513
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: is really where football and you know, entertainment is listed

1514
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: in the reopening phase structure. You know, if you go

1515
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: every two weeks, which is when at least Governor Cuomo

1516
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: here in New York State said we expect each phase

1517
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: to take a minimum of two weeks. If that's the case,

1518
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: and it's a minimum all the way through. You're still

1519
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: talking June twenty ninth, before you're at phase four. Are

1520
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: these indications that you're getting from your sources saying this

1521
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: might be a way to get players in, albeit in voluntarily,

1522
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: before the end of June. Well, I think I think

1523
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 1: you're having when you're starting to look at some of

1524
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: these state governments you're seeing. So for example, again to

1525
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: go back to sort of Gavin Newsom, you know, this

1526
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: was a situation where at the beginning of May there

1527
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: was and there's like no wiggle room like it was,

1528
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: it was off the table basically that in June, you know, um,

1529
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: there could be any football activities in California. Well, by

1530
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: May t and T changed his stance. I mean he

1531
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: didn't change it, he softened it. He said, look, I

1532
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: could see again, we're processing this data on a continuous basis,

1533
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, and we're opening things as we're seeing the

1534
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: data sort of allow it. And so I think the

1535
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: the NFL's stance is, well, okay, where do we fit

1536
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: in terms of you're phased in opening? Is there an

1537
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: exception here? And we are seeing exceptions in different states.

1538
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've seen two stadium constructions continue

1539
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: as essential when you know, I mean, you can you know,

1540
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: shoot in in you know, Sofi Stadium in La you know,

1541
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 1: people are testing positive for coronavirus and they continue to

1542
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, work on Sofi or or or

1543
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: Allegiance in Las Vegas. So um, I think again, I

1544
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: think there's space with the politicians to work with the

1545
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: NFL and you know, particularly if the data provides it

1546
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: continue to soften things. I mean, I know, you know,

1547
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: the league is sitting there and they're going, well, geez,

1548
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: we have twenty two different states that we're dealing with here,

1549
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: and if this one state has a phased in program

1550
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: that really doesn't get us back into something until September,

1551
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: how can we shut down our entire league because we

1552
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: have one state that's sitting there and being being really

1553
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: hardline about this. And again, I think that's why you're

1554
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: having this constant communication. And I also think that's why

1555
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: they're looking at Gavin Newsom as someone that they can say, look,

1556
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: if Gavin Newsom is willing to look at his data

1557
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: and he sees that this can be done safely, and

1558
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: we have protocols that we can provide to you, we

1559
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: can we can have you know, some negotiation here. So

1560
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they're just looking at Cuomo or anyone

1561
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 1: else just saying, Hey, it's a it's a you know,

1562
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: it's a drop dead situation, and we can't do this,

1563
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, because they're going to stick to this exact

1564
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: guideline and we can't have any wiggle room under those,

1565
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: you know. If the league we're talking to Charles Robinson

1566
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: of Yahoo Sports, and Charles, if the league does get

1567
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: this role, and if they do have a preseason, if

1568
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: they do start playing games with or without fans, what

1569
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: is the plan or what is your their option if

1570
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: a head coach gets coronavirus, or a starting quarter coronavirus,

1571
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 1: or if one team starts to get a rampant cases

1572
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: of coronavirus, what's the plan? Well, it's funny because they

1573
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: the NFL does have so apparently the NFL is put

1574
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: together a unit to troubleshoot that, and now they're not

1575
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: telling us, not telling anyone what. I have not been

1576
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: able to find out, Hey, what the protocols are yet,

1577
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: And frankly, I think part of the reason is because

1578
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: the protocols are not a set yet. I think the

1579
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: NFL is still I call it sort of flooding the

1580
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: zone with ideas about how to handle a multitude of

1581
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: different things. Hey are there. You know, you hear about

1582
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: the potential to have masks, you know, built into some helmets,

1583
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, certain quarantine measures for certain players,

1584
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: or you know how to deal with you know, hey,

1585
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: are we gonna have locker rooms close this year? No

1586
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: more reporters in locker rooms this year? We just cannot

1587
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: have that. They're across the board top to bottom trying

1588
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: to troubleshoot all these things at the same time. But

1589
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: that's obviously the big one. I think the step forward

1590
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: by the NFL that probably should encourage fans about having

1591
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: a season is the fact that the NFL stepped out,

1592
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, and with the backing of its doctors to say,

1593
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: we expect we're going to have positive tests, like it's

1594
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: going to happen. We're going to open up and football

1595
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: is going to come back, and we're going to have

1596
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: incidents of positive tests, and we're going to have a

1597
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: protocol in place um to deal with that. And to me,

1598
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: that's the NFL thing. Look, we're trying to be progressive

1599
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: about this so that we don't panic and then just

1600
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 1: have to shut down operations completely. We're going to have

1601
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: things in place to try and deal with a situation

1602
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: if there is um a positive tests or or a

1603
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: spade of positive tests that happen in a franchise. And frankly,

1604
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I think the NFL believes that will you won't have

1605
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: to get into the regular season for that to happen.

1606
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: I think they believe once we open training camps and

1607
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: we go a few weeks, someone's going to test positive

1608
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: somewhere and we're gon we're gonna see how our protocols

1609
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: work before the season kicks off, and this isn't something

1610
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: else on is going to pop up in a week

1611
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: three Now, we have to deal with it. I think

1612
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: they think we're gonna have to deal with it at

1613
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: some point during camp. Charles Robinson, thanks for coming on

1614
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: with us. We appreciate it. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here,

1615
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: and we really appreciate you coming on and enjoyed it. Thanks,

1616
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: absolutely appreciate it. Gentlemen, call me time. Thanks Charles Robinson,

1617
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Yah who's senior NFL reporter and NFL Insider host of

1618
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. He's been covering the NFL

1619
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: for since two thousand and four. A lot of insight

1620
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: there as to what's going to happen when the league

1621
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: does start to grind it open. Interesting stuff. We're gonna

1622
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: take a break. If you want to call us about

1623
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: who you think the Bill's best, biggest rivalries should be

1624
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: going forward, you can eight oh three oh five fifty

1625
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Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty Steve Tasker,

1626
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 1: Chris Brown here at one bills Live. This is Buffalo

1627
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker

1628
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown. We just got off the phone

1629
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: with Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports. He had some pretty

1630
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: good insights as to what it may look like when

1631
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: the league starts, and also about what it's going to

1632
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: take for that to happen. And a lot of it

1633
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: falls on the Governor of California, Gavin Newsom. And there's

1634
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: the kind of the Western pack of five states who

1635
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: are kind of leaning on each other through this. Gavin

1636
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Newsom has been pretty conservative, and when that domino falls,

1637
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: he feels like or I think that he thinks the

1638
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: league feels like that. When California opens it up for

1639
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,560
Speaker 1: professional sports, so will everybody else. And it could be

1640
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: maybe a little sooner than we thought a couple of

1641
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: weeks ago. The interesting thing for me, Steve, which is

1642
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: why I asked Charles the question, because it seems to

1643
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: me that the league is looking for either a greater

1644
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: wiggle room and the current reopening phases provide. Knowing that

1645
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: football being under the Sports and Entertainment category is in

1646
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: four of reopening clans, which is the last phase, and

1647
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: the fact that you know you want to have the

1648
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: proper preparations in place for entertaining football. It's like they

1649
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: almost want to move the line. They want to they

1650
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:21,839
Speaker 1: want to be an exception to the current reopening phases

1651
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: that have been laid out here. They're trying to get

1652
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: in sooner rather than later. And I underd I totally

1653
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: understand why. And why tell me why because to me,

1654
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: because it's lost time. I think a lot of these

1655
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: coaches are concerned. Here's the thing, Brownie, they can do it.

1656
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, who are we kidding? Yeah? They the more

1657
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 1: the more they have, the better they think their team's

1658
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: going to be better. The simple fact that matters this,

1659
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: what they really need to focus on is making sure

1660
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: it's fair. If you've got a month to get ready

1661
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: for an NFL season. That means you got two weeks

1662
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: of practice and maybe one preseason game, may be two

1663
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: and the fourth The fourth week would be September thirteenth,

1664
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: the opening weekend. Right, they could do this on a

1665
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: month notice. Five weeks would be great, Right, I don't think.

1666
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to run it up to that.

1667
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: They certainly don't, but it doesn't look like they're gonna

1668
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: be near anywhere near that in two weeks, two weeks,

1669
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: two weeks, two weeks. You know that when that month starts,

1670
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: when that five weeks start, they're gonna be ready to go.

1671
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Now that one problem they are going to have is

1672
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: getting their youngest players. That means they're rookie undrafted free agents.

1673
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Getting the players they're gonna have, it's gonna be hard

1674
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: to give those guys a bigger as big enough opportunity

1675
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: because for me, right now, the way it currently is,

1676
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: if there was no pandemic, they got they got more

1677
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: than enough time. They got nothing but time to look

1678
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 1: at those guys. They know which guys they're getting rid of,

1679
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: and they know it about three weeks before they actually

1680
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: get rid of them. You know what I'm saying, so

1681
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: knock off that last three weeks and compressed it. It's

1682
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I don't think as of now they

1683
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: don't have to jump the gun or ask for any

1684
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: special concessions to get back in the into their their buildings.

1685
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: But you know, because I just you know, the football

1686
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 1: guys are anti to get started. I get it. But

1687
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: in the big scheme of things, they're gonna have enough time.

1688
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have enough time. Yeah, but they're

1689
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 1: that's me, they're already I know. But right, I just

1690
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:31,839
Speaker 1: think you had this hardline reopening plan with specific phases

1691
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: we heard government Cormo. We're talking about each of them

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01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: taking about two weeks at minimum, which, as I said

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01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: in talking to Charles, that would put the put New

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01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: York State at June twenty ninth to get to phase four.

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01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: That's the end of June. Yes, But I think they

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01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: don't need to get back until mid July. Right, That's

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01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: that's when they start having to really adjust, right, And

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01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: I get that, But I think I think these overtures

1699
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 1: being made by NFL powers that be trying to massage

1700
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: it already now here in phase one, I think is

1701
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: an indication of one thing and one thing only. The

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01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: league is genuinely concerned about team equity and having an

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01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: equal having an equal playing field. And I don't know

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01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: that there's an easy answer to that, and Charles even

1705
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: mentioned it. If you have twenty three states have NFL teams,

1706
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: if you have twenty two of them, all systems go,

1707
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: and there's one that's lagging because they haven't hit seven

1708
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: out of seven protocols necessary to move to the next

1709
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: phase of reopening, there might be a team that's left behind.

1710
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the NFL is most worried about.

1711
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe obviously aside from an outbreak in a building,

1712
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: right right, but basically this though, you're still even at

1713
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 1: this next weekend where you know, June first, that's still

1714
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: six weeks away from what I would call maybe a

1715
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: drop dead date, which means six weeks from then before

1716
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: you have an exactly normal preseason where guys come in,

1717
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: they practice for two weeks, you have four preseason games

1718
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: and you get go. That's way, that's plenty of time,

1719
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: plenty of time, and that's still six weeks away from

1720
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: this coming weekend. So I get it that they're posturing

1721
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: and all that, and because let's face it, they could

1722
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: push it back two weeks and lop off a preseason

1723
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: game and nobody's gonna care if they have regular season

1724
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: games September thirteenth, first thing out of the box, they go.

1725
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: I get it that they're getting antsy, but I still

1726
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: think they've got plenty of time for me your thoughts.

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01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeahtimism or not, time is on their side. I don't

1728
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 1: deny that for a second. And you even got the

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01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: governor of New Jersey who was on a New York

1730
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: station today saying, you can definitely see the Jets and

1731
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: Giants holding training camps in July. Like I don't about

1732
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: having fans there, but training camps. And I know I

1733
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier in the show too. Training camps might

1734
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: be the best thing in terms of controlling the spread

1735
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: because instead of having got instead of having training camp

1736
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: at your own team facility, you know, and going away

1737
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: into training camp, you've got guys all on the same campus,

1738
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: in the same dormitories, isolated from the rest of society.

1739
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: That might be the best case scenario for it. Well,

1740
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: it might be the best case scenario for training camp,

1741
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: But then when they break camp, then all of a

1742
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: sudden you're ready to start the season, then everybody might

1743
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: start coming down with it and then you problems. But

1744
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: that's a that's an issue as well. All Right, we're

1745
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, we're here.

1746
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to your tweet sheets. Here at

1747
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: the top of the hour, you can give us a

1748
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 1: call and get in on the conversation. We'll take some

1749
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: calls after the top of the hour at eight oh

1750
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: three five fifty or one eight eight eight five fifty

1751
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: two five fifty. If you want to talk to us,

1752
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: jump on the phone. This is Steve Tasker Chris Brown

1753
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: on one Bills Live, and this is a couple of

1754
01:32:54,280 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 1: bills Radio. Oh A good time, Oh by Steve Plasterers

1755
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: domes Down Time. Welcome back to our number three of

1756
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill One Bill's Live. Steve task along with Chris Brown,

1757
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: we've been talking a lot. We just come off the

1758
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: phone a little bit ago to the bottom of the

1759
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: hour with Charles Robinson about what is gonna take and

1760
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: what's gonna look like when the NFL opens up. We

1761
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: also have a question out that our viewers and listeners.

1762
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,759
Speaker 1: We don't have any viewers these days because we're Brownie.

1763
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this. We're not on

1764
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: tv UM, but I wasn't aware, right, Okay, So our

1765
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 1: listeners have been chiming in on who do you want

1766
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: the Bill's next rivalry to be with? Who do you

1767
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: want to be the Bill's biggest rival going forward? And

1768
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of response to that. You can call

1769
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: us and give us your ideas at eight oh three

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01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: oh five fifty or one eight eight eight five fifty

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01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: two fifty. We do have a call on the line.

1772
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Dentist from Buffalo. His ideas are not only on who

1773
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: they wants to be the Bill's biggest rival, but also

1774
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: on carrying a third quarterback? Dennis, what's on your mind? Yes,

1775
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 1: I was wondering. Everybody knows that, you know, the National

1776
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: Football League quarterbacks are is the best, the most important position.

1777
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 1: And if God forbid, uh Josh Allen gets corners and

1778
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: passed us on to Barclay or the quarterback from Georgia,

1779
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: what will happen when there's no other quarterback? Would the

1780
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: Status Quad carry a fourth quarterback mandatory without having to

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01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 1: spend a roster spot to have a fourth quarterback as

1782
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: as insurance for the Cocobo nineteen. Just in case, who's

1783
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: going to be able to run the team. I wonder

1784
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: if McDermott has planned or the National Football League owners,

1785
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: but this question up. Whatever all three quarterbacks or if

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01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: they're going to going to carry two quarterbacks, they have

1787
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: to carry our third quarterback exemption the basic roster or

1788
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: is during exemption for the fourth string quarterback. Don the

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01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: practice squad have to come in and play? If all

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01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks get the Corville nineteen. That's a good question,

1791
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: and that's something that's got to be addressed. If if

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01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback gets COVID and your backup comes in

1793
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, are the what if

1794
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: that happens? If that if it runs through the quarterback

1795
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: room Brownie, I mean, what if all the quarterbacks? Yeah,

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01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be interesting to see how

1797
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: the first positive case is handled, especially if it's in

1798
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 1: the regular season, because you can make the argument that

1799
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: if your quarterback test positive, well just about everybody on

1800
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: offense has been exposed. So it may not matter if

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01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: you have a backup or not, because that team may

1802
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 1: not be playing that week. If everybody on offense is

1803
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: exposed to the virus because you can't have them in

1804
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: good conscience go out on a field and play another

1805
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: team and expose all of them. To me, that that's catastrophic.

1806
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: So that's that's while that is certainly a doomsday scenario

1807
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: to think about. I don't know if you even get

1808
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: to where Dennis is indicating because of the exposure risk. Now,

1809
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: I do know this year under the new CBA that

1810
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 1: the practice squad goes up from ten to twelve players,

1811
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: so there are two more spots on the practice squad

1812
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: this year. The Bills did carry a practice squad quarterback

1813
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: last year and Davis Webb, who was on the practice

1814
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: squad pretty much for the balance of the of the season,

1815
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: so it is an option. I do not anticipate an exemption, however,

1816
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: as Dennis was wondering, So I think with two extra

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01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: spots on the practice squad, you afford yourself a little

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01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: leeway there to have another quarterback. I can't see them

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01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: putting Jake from on the practice squad after spending a

1820
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 1: fifth round pick on him. So there's probably a pretty

1821
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: strong chance that the Bills carry three quarterbacks on their

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01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: fifty three. I'm not saying it's guaranteed. But I think

1823
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: it's more likely than not, so there's a good chance

1824
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: they'll have three to begin with. But if they're all

1825
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: in the quarterback room together and the one quarterback comes

1826
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: down with it, you have to believe that whatever other

1827
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: quarterback you have on their roster is in team meetings

1828
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: with that guy all week, they're going to be equally

1829
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: exposed and probably not be able to play either. Yeah,

1830
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: it is an interesting question though, because you have to

1831
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: address it if something happens to your starting quarterback, if

1832
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 1: he tests positive, you've got to have a way to

1833
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: get around. I mean, you've got to be so careful

1834
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: and probably socially distanced in the quarterback room. I think

1835
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: I imagine they will have a plan to have the

1836
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: quarterbacks almost be coached separately. I mean, you got to

1837
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: see Quester the quarterbacks from each other almost, right, Brownie?

1838
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Is that because if Josh Brown, if Josh Allen gets

1839
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: it last year, then you know Barkley's gonna get it,

1840
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: no question. I mean they can they sitting next to

1841
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, you're sitting next to each other in a

1842
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: small coach's office watching film. There's only three quarterbacks in

1843
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: there and the coordinator. So yeah, you're making a good point.

1844
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: But if if, if it starts to hit a position group, Yeah,

1845
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: that could be an issue that the league, you know,

1846
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 1: has to foresee and have a plan for. And it's

1847
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: got to be different too. For for just if one

1848
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: random person gets it, if if the equipment guide gets it,

1849
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: if a trainer gets it. You know, it's it's a

1850
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 1: question that has to be answered. You have to have

1851
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: a plan for. But there's no way to anticipate where

1852
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. But you gotta think it probably will.

1853
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: And I think the league's gotta have a plan to say, listen,

1854
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna go, the team's gonna play. That's the way

1855
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. And unless you test positive the day

1856
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: before the game, you're playing or you're eligible to play.

1857
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: So um, it's it's a tough question. We've still got

1858
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these that have to be answered, and

1859
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna what it ultimately, how it's

1860
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 1: going to affect the league going forward. But man oh man,

1861
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: it just seems monumental to me to think about all

1862
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: these things that have to be thought about before you

1863
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: can open up the doors. Who do you want the

1864
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: bills to be the biggest Who do you want to

1865
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: be the biggest the Bill's biggest rival. I've had trouble

1866
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 1: staying that all day. Who do you want to be

1867
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: the Bill's biggest rival this year or going forward? Who

1868
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: do you want the Bills to have to face every year?

1869
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 1: Who do you want the Bills to have to go

1870
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: through every year? Who do you want the Bills to

1871
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: be rivals with? Which means they play meaningful games, which

1872
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: means you hate them, which means you know they've got

1873
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: good players, You've got good players, you know all of that.

1874
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Who do you want it to be? We've got from

1875
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet Joe chimes and he says, I don't

1876
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: want a rival. I want to crush everyone. So yeah, okay, yeah,

1877
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: well that's all very good. But there's a reason why

1878
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: almost three quarters of the games in the league come

1879
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: down to a touchdown or less. It's because it's very

1880
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: hard to crush everyone. I think a lot of people

1881
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: thought the Ravens and the way they were rolling over people,

1882
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: they were gonna cruise to the super Bowl, and we

1883
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: saw them get stopped dead in their tracks. To the

1884
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,640
Speaker 1: surprise if many people. So, even teams that dominate in

1885
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 1: the regular season, can't always carry that into the postseason.

1886
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: So as much as I would like to see a

1887
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 1: season like that, Joe, I don't know if it's real.

1888
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: It's realistic, right right? Also from Josh on the tweet sheet,

1889
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: I'd rather just dominate our division. I'd like to see

1890
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 1: Ravens or Chiefs be rivals with us, but to compare,

1891
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: but compare our games, our game style, I see here

1892
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: you whoever, I'd rather just dominate our division. I'd like

1893
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: to see Ravens or Chiefs be rivals with us too,

1894
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: but compared to our game style, not sure how interesting

1895
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 1: the games would be. I feel comfortable saying Titans slash

1896
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 1: Steelers could always come down to one play. And that's

1897
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: compared to games that have been in recent past. The

1898
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 1: Teachers and finally the Tennessee games have been great games

1899
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 1: of late. The Steelers are always a good football team,

1900
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: and the Bills win in there last year and managed

1901
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: to come out with a victory as well. But is

1902
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 1: it just about close games, Brownie, Well, I think that

1903
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: adds to the tension in the entertainment value for sure,

1904
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: each particular game, you know, but if you're if it's

1905
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 1: a rivalry game and you hate them. You don't want

1906
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: it to be a close game. You want to be

1907
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: a crusher, right, you want to win by three touchdowns. Well, yeah,

1908
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: that'd be great in an ideal world, but I think

1909
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 1: we know that the NFL's competitive balance is much better

1910
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: than that. Unfortunately, I don't mind a tight game as

1911
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: long as they win, right. Unfortunately they're on scholarship too, right,

1912
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: So you gotta and plus And as a former player,

1913
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: I would saw things mentally, when you're playing a good team,

1914
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: it meant something. And I've told this story a bunch.

1915
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: The happiest I ever saw our locker room and all

1916
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: those championship games and all the division titles and all

1917
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: the you know, all the playoff game games, the home games,

1918
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: the away games. The happiest I ever saw our locker

1919
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: room was after a regular season victory in New York

1920
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: against the New York Giants. It was the team to

1921
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: beat the Bills in the Super Bowl twenty five the

1922
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: regular season. Six weeks before that or three weeks or

1923
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: four that or four whatever. Six weeks before that, we

1924
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: played them in the Meadowlands and beat him. So I

1925
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: think it was like seventeen ten. I have never seen

1926
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: that locker room more happy. And you know why because

1927
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: we because we knew that we had just beaten a really,

1928
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: really good football team. That's what made it meaningful. That's

1929
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: why that team was so And I mean the coaching

1930
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 1: staff too, the coaching Marv and Ted March of Brota

1931
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: and all those guys. It was a really happy coaching

1932
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 1: staff too. Our whole team was going crazy because it

1933
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: was a good team we just beat. Right, But that's

1934
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,560
Speaker 1: a team you didn't see all that often, and you

1935
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't even call him a rival. So that's interesting that, Yeah,

1936
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 1: you got that kind of reaction. It's true, but because

1937
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 1: they were, you know, we're both teams were eleven and

1938
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 1: two going into that team into that game, and we

1939
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: beat him. Uh and of course subsequently met him six

1940
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: weeks later in the Super Bowl and you know, we

1941
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 1: lost by a point. So that's those were two really

1942
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 1: good games. Then we played them again in the preseason.

1943
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: I think the next year we still ended up playing

1944
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: them a bunch over that a handful of times over

1945
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: the next eighteen months. I saw him a bunch. But

1946
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: I think for a rivalry, they need to be good.

1947
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 1: The other team needs to be good. You know, both

1948
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: teams have to be good. That's why people are throwing

1949
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: out the Chiefs and the Steelers and the Titans right

1950
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: now as rivals, because you know, to get anything out

1951
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: of the rivalry, there's got to be somebody on the

1952
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: other end of it, right Well, yeah, that's true. I

1953
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't and so all yeah, you might want to not

1954
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: want to ride, you want to crush everybody, but still

1955
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 1: if you want to be in, if you want your

1956
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: championship to meet anything, um, you gotta go through some

1957
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: pretty good teams. Josh from Josh. I mean love to

1958
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: see the Dolphins Bills rivalry back, but Titans Bills feeling

1959
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: really good right now. A lot of history between the

1960
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: franchises and both play tough, gritty football. Also, I like

1961
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: the idea of Steelers Bills too after last season's game.

1962
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Proximity the teams and the passion of both fan bases. Yeah,

1963
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 1: that's good too, It's good. But I think we need

1964
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 1: to remind everybody that that the Steelers were using their

1965
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: third string quarterback in that game last year and it

1966
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: was still a nip and tuck game. That's not going

1967
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: to be the case this year. When they played the

1968
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: Steelers with Ben coming back, and I think juju Juju

1969
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster also missed that game with an injury, So

1970
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers were supremely shorthanded going into that game. And

1971
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to lessen the magnitude of the victory.

1972
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: Was a giant win for the Bills, and to their credit,

1973
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: they came back and made the plays they needed to

1974
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the game to win that thing.

1975
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: And as we all know, Pittsburgh is not an easy

1976
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: place to play. Um, But you're right though, the Steelers tea. Yeah,

1977
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,919
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are going to be a resurgent

1978
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: football team in the AFC this year. It's just a

1979
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: feeling I have. I do too. Ben Roethlisberg is going

1980
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 1: to come back with something to prove and and that's it.

1981
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: You can call us at eight oh three oh five

1982
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: fifty to get your two cents in, or call us

1983
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: at one eight eight five fifty two five fifty outside

1984
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: of Buffalo. We've got a call from Toronto that's gonna

1985
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: join us. TJ in Toronto. You're on with Chris and Steve.

1986
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, how are you doing great? I'm called

1987
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm I want to say this I extend to study

1988
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: and the virus. Okay, after the first preseason two persons game,

1989
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna take one person, one person come down

1990
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 1: with the virus and elephant cancels. I guarantee you that.

1991
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: So the chance out there is a game and the

1992
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: um NFL of the almost zero, there will not be

1993
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: a full game. And this year, because how are you

1994
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: going to test the flu from the virus. If a

1995
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: player comes down with the flu, how are you going

1996
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: to deferciate differentiate the flu from the virus. It cannot

1997
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: be effective that person with the flu comes down this

1998
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: fall active and all you're gonna say is this a

1999
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 1: flu or is the virus? And not in the league

2000
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:23,720
Speaker 1: going to cancel the game. The player is going to

2001
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: cancel the game because they will not play. I hope not.

2002
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 1: That's a good interesting point too. The league may just

2003
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 1: say we're and we've heard from a couple of different sources,

2004
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 1: thank you for the call, tj UM from a couple

2005
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 1: of different sources. The league's gonna grind it out. Stephen Ross,

2006
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: the owner of that Miami Dolphins, said, listen, we're having

2007
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: a season. I don't know what it's gonna look like.

2008
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Where they're gonna be playing games. So if they're gonna

2009
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 1: play all two hundred and fifty six games, brownie, whatever

2010
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 1: they look like. Uh, he's right. Is the league gonna

2011
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: get some pushback from the players union if somebody if

2012
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 1: players do start dropping like flies with the coronavirus, Yeah,

2013
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: it's I think it's early to know any of that stuff.

2014
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, even Charles Robinson, who we had on last hour,

2015
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 1: said the reason I haven't been, the reason I've been

2016
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 1: unable to get any details on the protocols and the

2017
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: if thens is because they're still being formulated, right And

2018
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: I believe he's one hundred percent accurate with that assessment.

2019
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, we can throw out

2020
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 1: all kinds of scenarios that we want. The bottom line is,

2021
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 1: I don't think the league and to a certain extent,

2022
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: the government powers that be have all the answers that

2023
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,879
Speaker 1: they want to have right now. It's kind of a fluid,

2024
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: see as you go type situation, and there are probably

2025
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: going to be some curveballs along the way that they're

2026
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: going to have to handle, and how they handle it

2027
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 1: will probably impact the regular season in some capacity. To

2028
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 1: what degree is anybody's guests eight h three, five fifty.

2029
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: If you want to call Brownie that, He's right, though,

2030
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: this is gonna be you kind of get the feeling

2031
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: though people are starting to say, Okay, everything's starting to

2032
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 1: open up and it's starting to get loosened up. But

2033
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: here's the thing. When they start opening up businesses, they're

2034
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,560
Speaker 1: still going to be socially distancing the league. And I

2035
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: can picture this as well. You can inside the building.

2036
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: You go into a team meeting, they're gonna be socially distancing.

2037
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna be telling these guys they might be wearing

2038
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: masks all everywhere except on the practice field or whatever.

2039
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: So I think they're still gonna be at high alert

2040
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 1: to keep themselves healthy. The players are gonna get hammered

2041
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: every day about protocols, washing their hands, wearing their masks,

2042
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: wearing gloves if they need to. All of that stuff

2043
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: is going to be hyper sensitive inside the building, so

2044
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that they'll be able to contain

2045
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 1: it if it does outbreak inside the building. But man,

2046
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: oh man, he's right. I'm TJ. The caller from Toronto's right.

2047
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: If it starts to go rampant and cut through the league,

2048
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: that's the only that's the worst case scenario, I think.

2049
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: But I don't think we kind of get the feeling

2050
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: that every's gonna you know, be hugging and you know,

2051
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: kissing and being happy to be back together. And you know,

2052
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:07,440
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's going to be the atmosphere

2053
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 1: when they come back. I still think they're going to

2054
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: be very distance, very socially distanced, and very protected from

2055
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 1: themselves on each other. Yeah, the challenge will be practice.

2056
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 1: Do you do you practice how you're gonna play football?

2057
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 1: Do you practice separately in position groups and you don't

2058
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: do any team stuff or you reduce the amount of

2059
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 1: team stuff to minimize exposure or to keep your groups

2060
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: in as small of numbers as possible. You know, maybe

2061
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: you're only doing seven on seven, you're never doing eleven

2062
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: on eleven. You know, things like that. There's there are

2063
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 1: going to be decisions that have to be made. So

2064
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: as exciting as the reports that we're getting that you know,

2065
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 1: things are moving in the right direction here, I think

2066
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 1: they're still gonna have to feel out how it's all

2067
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 1: gonna look when it finally does get to that point, right,

2068
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 1: That's that's what we don't know and plus what it's

2069
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 1: going to look like after you get to that point

2070
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: and you have to take a step back. How big

2071
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,880
Speaker 1: a step back is it going to be? And the

2072
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: lead the NFL season is coincides almost perfectly with that,

2073
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, finger quotes or whatever, the second wave

2074
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,600
Speaker 1: and if that hits, then you know it could go

2075
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 1: the way of the NBA and NHL and take a

2076
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: hiatus or anything like that, or something even worse. So

2077
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: hopefully that doesn't happen. Steep Tasker along with Chris Brown,

2078
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here at the bottom of

2079
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: the hour. You're listening to One Bills Live on Buffalo

2080
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one of Bill's lives. Step

2081
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: task along with Chris Brown, been talking about who you

2082
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: want the Bill's next rival to be? If you want

2083
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 1: an inside the AFC East, do you want an outside

2084
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: the AFC East. And we've got a lot of responses

2085
01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: on it's most of you want to take a look

2086
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 1: and have it be in the AFC East. About seventy

2087
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: seventy percent of you, seven out of ten people wanted

2088
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: to be a team in the AFC. So you can

2089
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: see him twice a year thirty percent of you say

2090
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: you want it to be somebody else, and I think

2091
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: the people who wanted to be somebody else would probably

2092
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: follow into the category of wanting it to be somebody

2093
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: the Bills face every year in the playoffs. Could be

2094
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Brownie, your thoughts that your final thoughts

2095
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: before we go to NFL true false. Yeah, it's probably

2096
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 1: got to be a division team. I think Darnold Allen

2097
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 1: is kind of the most tantalizing matchup, knowing those two

2098
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: players are probably going to be with those two respective

2099
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: teams for the better part of the next decade. I

2100
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: suppose too. Instead him could have something to say about that,

2101
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: but no one those guys are from the same draft class.

2102
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: That's that's probably where we end up. I'm just unfortunately,

2103
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm not super convinced that the Jets as an organization

2104
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: are gonna continue to ascend and you know, be a

2105
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 1: perennial contender in the division. Well, I We'll wait and

2106
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:57,560
Speaker 1: see it. But it still would be nice to have

2107
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: the Bills be a powerhouse once again and have some

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01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 1: teams outside the division that you see every every year

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01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and become Yeah, come a little bit

2110
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 1: of a rivalry, heated rivalry. That'd be a lot of fun.

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01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna do NFL true false, NFL true false. Brought

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01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy Yancey's Fancy New York's artist

2113
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: and cheese already, Brownie, Let's do it. Here we go,

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01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Here we go, NFL true false. First one, Patrick Mahomes

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01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: is the closest thing the NFL has to Michael Jordan. Well,

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01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: I guess you have to be convinced, first of all,

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01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 1: that it has to be a quarterback, right because it's

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01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: got to be a guy who has the ball in

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01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 1: his hands at the end of the game, So it

2120
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: almost by default has to be a QB. And if

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01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about unique, rare physical traits, that

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01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 1: is Mahomes. And if you're going to talk about being

2123
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: a finisher, which Michael Jordan was, you can make the

2124
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 1: argument that Mahomes is building a body of work to

2125
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 1: indicate that he is. That also, I mean three comfort

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01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: behind wins in the playoffs, including the Super Bowl where

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01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: it puts the team on his back. That's that's pretty close.

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01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying in my head to think of a better candidate. Well,

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01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: let me try this. How about like Peyton Manning. Both

2130
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: guys are both he and Michael Jordan retired, both one's championships,

2131
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 1: both had a lot of commercials. Both have known as

2132
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: much off the field for their face being on camera

2133
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: as it is on camera. Certainly dominant figures while they played.

2134
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 1: Although Michael Jordan, you know, six championships, Peyton Manning didn't

2135
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: match that. Tom Brady same thing, six championships. I think

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01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is probably closer to being Michael Jordan because

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01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: they're larger than life. They go outside of football a lot,

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01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 1: and I think I think Tom Brady's fame and his

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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: celebrity extend far beyond the sidelines. So I think those

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01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 1: two guys are better candidates for to be Michael Jordan

2141
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: of NFL than than Pat Mahomes. And I would think

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01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: I think Brady matches the personality of Jordan better too.

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01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 1: He's just an out and out assassin, right, I mean,

2144
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 1: he'd steal your lunch money if it meant, you know, right,

2145
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 1: winning winning. You know, he might even bad mouth his

2146
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: mom if it many can win a game. Who knows.

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01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm saying false, What are you saying?

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01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: I'll probably go a false. He convinced me. All right,

2149
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go to NFL. True false

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01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: number two. All right, so we both think, No, Patrick

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: Mahomes is not the closest thing the NFL has to

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01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. There are other guys better NFL True false

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01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 1: number two. If no fans, Fox is correct in pumping

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01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: crowd noise into the broadcast for the games. True false. Yeah,

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01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say true here. And this is why I

2156
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: think for the viewing audience at home, yes, it's gonna

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: seem fake and forced. But I gotta tell you, ste

2158
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: I watched some of the Bundesligue, the German soccer league

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01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: that started up about a week or so ago. I

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01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: watched one of the games. It is weird. It's almost eerie.

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01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: It's like they're playing a game in another dimension with

2162
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: no fans in the stands. And here's the other thing, too, Steve,

2163
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: you can hear the coaches on the sidelines yelling instructions

2164
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: to the players on the field because there is no

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01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: crowd noise. Like I was, I was almost lamenting the

2166
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 1: fact that I do not speak a lick of German

2167
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 1: because I was really curious as to what the coaches

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01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 1: were saying, and I gotta tell you, if if we

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01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 1: get to the football season and there are no fans

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01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: in the stands, the coaches may have to watch what

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01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: they're saying to their players on the field too. Knowing

2172
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: those cable cams that hover over the field, I mean,

2173
01:55:55,440 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: they capture everything. Automo wis right. I will say true

2174
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 1: just to try to replicate the true game experience as

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: much as possible. I'm gonna say false because I want

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01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 1: to see, because I'm interested in how it's gonna play

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01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: out without fans. I've practiced a ton, I've played you know,

2178
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: scrimmages and stuff without fans. I don't have a problem

2179
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: with it. The one thing is that you said is correct.

2180
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to hear things you've never heard before.

2181
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 1: The language on the field is going to be horrific,

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01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 1: and it's true, it's gonna be not fit for air. Well.

2183
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: I think that's probably part of the reason they want

2184
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: to pump the crowd noise in, don't you. Maybe maybe

2185
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: they've got to have a plan for that, because guys

2186
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be cursing and name calling and every other word, right,

2187
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and the head coach is the same thing.

2188
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,880
Speaker 1: It is gonna be rampant because guys aren't gonna watch that.

2189
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: They're you know, they got They're in a physical confrontation.

2190
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: You're not thinking about your words, editing your words while

2191
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: you're doing that. So I think I'm interested in that.

2192
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they will, but I do think they're

2193
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a plan. I don't like it.

2194
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: I think it's false. So I think I think if

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01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: they do have to have a plan though, for some

2196
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: sort of delay to make sure these guys, you know,

2197
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: words don't get out over the air, because it's gonna

2198
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 1: be I'm telling you, it's gonna be bad. And to

2199
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 1: be clear, they're talking about pumping it into the telecast,

2200
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: not actually into the stadium. They're going to run it

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: through the telecast, as I understand it. They're not gonna

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: be pouring noise down onto the field from the public

2203
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 1: address system. Now, they won't. That's what we're talking about.

2204
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: We're talking about it for the broadcast, all right. So

2205
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 1: you say true, I'll say false. And for the last

2206
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: one NFL true false. Bucks Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator

2207
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich, former quarterback for Jacksonville is a prime head

2208
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 1: coaching candidates? That true or false? Well, the feather that

2209
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 1: he has in his cap right now is he had

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01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 1: the number one passing offense in football last year in

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01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: Tampa and he did it with a quarterback who throw

2212
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: thirty three interceptions. That's a pretty good job all things considered.

2213
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's a prime head coaching

2214
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 1: candidate yet. And the only reason I say that is

2215
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I think he's only been at it for six years.

2216
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Is he rapidly ascending? Absolutely? And who knows seeing all

2217
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 1: the young offensive minds and how quickly many of them

2218
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 1: do land jobs. Whether you're talking about Sean McVeigh who

2219
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: was only in NFL coaching for nine years and got

2220
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 1: a head coaching job, I don't think Byron left, which

2221
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: is far off because a lot of these NFL owners,

2222
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: when they do make a change, very often they lean

2223
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: toward the offensive side of the ball and the new

2224
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 1: hot shot play caller to get as a head coach,

2225
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 1: due in part to the fact that they don't want

2226
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 1: to lose that guy if they just make him a coordinator.

2227
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: So I would day in the next two to three

2228
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: years I could see him being a head coach if

2229
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: who knows, if Bruce Arians retires after next year, maybe

2230
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 1: it gets promoted from within in Tampa. Who knows, so

2231
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 1: maybe he could be even closer. But for now I'm

2232
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 1: just gonna say no, yeah, and you know what will happen,

2233
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll say false as well, just because

2234
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: of because of the lack of experience. But I'll say

2235
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 1: this if and this means something, and we've seen it

2236
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 1: means something before. If say, Tom Brady goes down there Byron,

2237
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 1: which is his offensive coordinator, and Brady knocks it out

2238
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,080
Speaker 1: of the park, hits a home run, the team does

2239
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: all reaches its wildest expectations, goes the NFC Championship game,

2240
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 1: goes to the Super Bowl, where they win or lose.

2241
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 1: Brady has an enormously successful bounce back year with Byron Leftwich. Okay,

2242
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 1: and then afterwards Brady tells everybody, this guy's got it.

2243
01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Then he will be hired next year. Next year, at

2244
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: this time, he'll be a head coach's syndrome. That's exactly right.

2245
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: That which was also with Peyton Manning, by the way,

2246
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 1: well it was, yeah, Peyton Manning wasn't Tom Brady, but

2247
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,680
Speaker 1: the same thing it is exactly the same thing. If

2248
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 1: if Brady gives this guy the nod after he has

2249
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 1: him for a season and they do you know, all

2250
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: these wonderful things, or even if they don't, and Brady

2251
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: says no, now he's got it, and there are other circumstances.

2252
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 1: That's that goes a long way. Yeah, one one, that's it.

2253
02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady will be able to dictate if Brian left,

2254
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: which becomes a head coach in the near future or not,

2255
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And that's yeah, so I'm gonna say

2256
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: no for that for now, but pending the opinion of

2257
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady after the season. Yeah, that's NFL true false.

2258
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancey's Fantasies, New York's Artisan Cheese. Yeah,

2259
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: what are you? We've been talking about this a lot,

2260
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 1: and that brings up our huge because we've we've been

2261
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: talking a little bit today about the assist assistant coaches

2262
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL and how they've been affected by the

2263
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 1: new rule. And now, Brownie, are we going to see?

2264
02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL has always been incestuous. If your

2265
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 1: coach goes there, this coach goes with him wherever he goes,

2266
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: and this coach knows this coach, so he's going to

2267
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 1: trust him to recommend another coach. They all know each other.

2268
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 1: It's a close knit group. They all work closely together.

2269
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 1: And so you've got now an atmosphere where teams can

2270
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,600
Speaker 1: no longer deny an assistant coach the right to be

2271
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: interviewed by another team, and the team has to reveal

2272
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,880
Speaker 1: how their coaching staff is structured, who calls plays, who

2273
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 1: does not call plays, and that those notes get compared

2274
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 1: when a team requests to interview one of these assistant coaches.

2275
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 1: So if you're giving him more one more responsibility than

2276
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: the other team is or where he's at right now,

2277
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to deny you the

2278
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,879
Speaker 1: right to interview him as their offensive or defensive coordinator

2279
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: or special teams coordinate. Are we going to see brownie

2280
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 1: guys changing horses a lot more often? I think we will. Yeah.

2281
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 1: The thing that the thing that concerns me is and

2282
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 1: I'd really like to read the full letter of the

2283
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 1: law in terms of what constitutes a true promotion. Our

2284
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: lateral moves part of this. I don't believe they are,

2285
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 1: but it sounds like I think you're right. A promotion

2286
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 1: is going to be more determined by what the exact

2287
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: job responsibilities are listed as as opposed to what the

2288
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 1: title of the person is. For instance, So if you're

2289
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 1: an OC but you're not calling the plays with the

2290
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 1: current team, and then this other team wants as an

2291
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: OC and you're going to get the ability to call plays,

2292
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:47,600
Speaker 1: the league is going to view that as a promotion,

2293
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 1: even though the title might be the same. That's to me,

2294
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a slippery slope. The part

2295
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: of it that concerns me the most is you don't

2296
02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 1: even have to ask the other team for permission to

2297
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 1: interview the person. From what I read, I don't have

2298
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 1: to ask permission. You probably gotta let them know what's happening.

2299
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: But I would think, but how without having to ask

2300
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 1: permission you could be talking to somebody in week two?

2301
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 1: What happened if you had gassed ROC who's completely unqualified

2302
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:19,640
Speaker 1: and out to lunch. I mean, I'm not saying somebody's

2303
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: gonna change in mid season. You're probably promoting from within

2304
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 1: and keeping the same system. But who's to say they

2305
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 1: aren't on the phone already trying to recruit other guys

2306
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 1: for hey, you know, end of the season. We'd really

2307
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 1: love to have you here. So now you have an

2308
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: extra layer of distractions, as I see, and maybe maybe

2309
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 1: they wait to the end of the season. Depends on

2310
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 1: the situation, you know. I mean you could you could

2311
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 1: probably conjure up some quirky scenario where they say, you

2312
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: know what, work changing everybody out, Or if there's a

2313
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Speaker 1: fist fight in the locker room with an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks coach or a quarterback and these starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the offensive coordinator, you know, if they if

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Speaker 1: they can't get along, and you know whatever. Um, you

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Speaker 1: could conjure up some scenarios where maybe not the coordinator, brownie,

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Speaker 1: but the assistance. Yeah. I mean, I just don't know

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Speaker 1: how you can accuse a team of tampering anymore under

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Speaker 1: these under these new rules. Yeah, that's interesting too. Going

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Speaker 1: on during the season, he could be tampering. Um. But

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Speaker 1: here's the and there's here's the thing, and it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the language of the job description of

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Speaker 1: the assistant that does it. Now here's the here's the question, brownie.

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Speaker 1: Do you make your assistant structure? Do you make it

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Speaker 1: so detailed that they have to address every detail in

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Speaker 1: it to ask for the guys, ask permission to interview

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Speaker 1: the guy, or do you make it so general that

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Speaker 1: it's too vague and it's open vague, and it's and

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Speaker 1: it's and it's you can't really get a handle on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you're skinning that cat. But one

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Speaker 1: of the unintended consequences that I thin does come out

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Speaker 1: of this, Steve, is if the poaching does become a

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Speaker 1: bigger issue and teams that want to keep their structure

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Speaker 1: in place year over year because they're successful and get

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Speaker 1: frustrated with that, I think an unintended consequence could be

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Speaker 1: larger coaching staffs, which isn't going to bother the coaching brethren,

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Speaker 1: but you're gonna be looking at larger coaching staffs because

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Speaker 1: teams are going to want to keep themselves insulated with

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Speaker 1: an ability to stay the course and not have to

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Speaker 1: change too much. And so you might have an assistant

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Speaker 1: to the OC, you might have an assistant to the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, which I know in some cases you have already,

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Speaker 1: But I think coaching staffs get even larger if this

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Speaker 1: poaching gets worse. That's a great point, Brownie. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to have yourself ready to cover for a really

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Speaker 1: good quarterback coach that has gone. You're gonna have Now

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Speaker 1: you're going to have an assistant to the assistant to

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Speaker 1: the assistant, you know, and everybody just moves up the

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Speaker 1: ladder where that guy gets plucked out. And I think

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Speaker 1: also it will I think it will make the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff will get bigger, probably, but it will

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Speaker 1: also make it even more incestuous. You know why, because

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Speaker 1: your assistant to the assistant quarterbacks coach who got promoted

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Speaker 1: to quarterbacks coach and then went off to be an coordinator,

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Speaker 1: is going to come back and bring all the guys

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Speaker 1: below him or around him with him. So I remember,

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Speaker 1: you know, they all came up together. You were the

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Speaker 1: quality control coach. You were the quality control coach assistant.

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Speaker 1: I was the quarterbacks coach, and then I became the coordinator.

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Speaker 1: You became the quarterbacks assistant, you know, the quarterback coach,

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Speaker 1: and then our buddy became the from the quality control coach.

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Speaker 1: All you know, now you guys are all coming with me,

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Speaker 1: and a whole branch of the tree leaves with the

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Speaker 1: guy because they're all getting promoted under their new under

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Speaker 1: their buddies new job. You know, that's how it happens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it look at it compounded for sure. Oh my gosh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some of that. It's really gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see a lot of a lot to chew

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Speaker 1: on there. With these new rules for the assistant coach,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown, we're on one Bill's life.

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Speaker 1: Who do you want to be the Bill's biggest rival?

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Speaker 1: We've talked about that all day. If you really want

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Speaker 1: to get one last thing, you can vote online. You

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Speaker 1: might be able to give us a call here before

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Maybe we'll take that call

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Speaker 1: if you wanted At eight or three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two, five fifty Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. We're gonna take a break. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned? Brought

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Speaker 1: rental company of the Buffalo Bills. We had Charles Robinson

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Speaker 1: from Yahoo Sports on. He talked about what it was

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Speaker 1: going to look like when the NFL starts to open up,

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Speaker 1: starting with coaches and players getting back into the facilities

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Speaker 1: for maybe a mini camp. Tom Brady's, you know, having

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Speaker 1: little mini practices, Lamar Jackson having little mini practices. Why

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Speaker 1: can't we get coaches in here and try to have

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Speaker 1: maybe in a bridge sort of soft opening here if

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Speaker 1: if players want to come in and try to take

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Speaker 1: part in this, can this be something we can pull off?

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Speaker 1: But first they need to get to the coaches back

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Speaker 1: into the facilities, and I think they really want to

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Speaker 1: get that done next week. That was Charles Robinson from

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Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports. Brownie, there's a lot going on. We had

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. Thanks for it was a

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Speaker 1: good show. Um. Sorry, if we couldn't get to everybody's phone,

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Speaker 1: call call in to in again tomorrow. If you want

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Speaker 1: to Brownie at assistant coaches, we should become an assistant

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. That way, nobody could tamper with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good right where I am. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I could do those hours, man, I know,

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Speaker 1: I get you. It's a it's a grind anyway, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Jay Harris, Kelly, Joe Devias, Brownie, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's good show. Talk to you later everybody. Thanks Bills

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