1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: is up, Drake Fire Family. It's named Jason McIntyre Straight Fire. 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: For Monday, July tenth, it is MLB All Star Week, 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: and you know what that means. Not a lot of 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: sports going on. So we're gonna talk a lot of 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: NBA Summer League. Fortunately, my guy, can he be my guy? 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: It's only been two Summer League games. Victor Webbin Yama, 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So the takes. We'll get to Webbin 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Yama a second, but let me just quickly go through 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the weekend. I was a solo wife and kids out 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: of town visiting family, and you know, I got to work. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: A lot of dads were asking me at various sports 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: I played, how do you pull that off? It's like 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't take vacation days to go see 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: the wife's family on these coast. We gotta save that 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: for Paris or Hawaii or whatever. We're doing trips. And so, I, 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, had a good weekend with the dog and 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: played a lot of sports. I will just say I'm 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: not gonna go too deep on the men's league. I 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: know some of you are put off by it, but 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say so, you know, I like to 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: think I created this dynasty out in this men's league 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: out here in Torrance, California, Torrance, you know, in the 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: South Bay. We'd never played in the league before. We 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: play in the league like the B version because we're 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: like a bunch of guys in our thirties and forties, 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: and we went dominate the league and win the title. 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: So then the next year we play up in the 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: top league, younger guys, more athletics, some guys who played college, 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: a guy who plays in the Drew League. We lose 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: in the title game. So we come back this year 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: the best team, the team that beat us, is not 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: doing it in the summer because their guys have a 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: lot going on, right, So we're like the team to beat. 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: We have the big X on our back. We crushed everybody. 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: We're targets, kind of like Victor Wan Binyam. Everybody's trying 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: to dunk on him all the time. And we were 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: down a bunch of guys this weekend. So I'm scrambling 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: going through literally going through my phone contact. Damn, I 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: haven't talked to this guy in like two years. Can 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: he still hoop? Is he in shape? And I'm just 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: texting guys because we need bodies. People are out of town, 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: people are traveling. It's summer, and so ultimately we get 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: two guys. One of them coached my son in AAU 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: and coached another one of my teammate sons. And he's 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: like six ' five, he's like twenty five years old, 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty six, and he's nasty. Finally he plays with us 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: and this other guy who's just an athlete. We're playing 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: the unbeaten top team. They had this game circled on 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: the calendar. All their guys show up, okay, and you know, 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: we take the lead early and then they storm back 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: and they're winning by double dig just most of the game, 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: and folks, it was one of the most thrilling comebacks ever. 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: We just keep fighting, full court press, creating turnovers. Our 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: big guy, the guy who just jumped in, has two 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: thunderous dunks' I don't think I've seen a dunk in 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: the league yet. And I'm just telling you. When he dunked, 58 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I looked at the other guys and they were like, 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Well, because our guys like dunking and 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: hanging on the rim like almost pull up like technical 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: foul stuff and they were shook. It rattled him. I'm 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: not even I'm gonna post a lot of video highlights 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: this because I know you care. Anyways, we tie it 64 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: up with two seconds left and they call time out. 65 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: We have our play, we know what we're gonna devend. 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: They throw it to their best player, who's a good, 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: good dude. He literally sits at all three games because 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: there's three games every weekend and scouts all the teams, 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: and like I talked to him, nice guy. You know, 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: it looks like he played a high level in high school, 71 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: probably D two or D three. He can he can 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: go and he catches like the Christian Layton or bomb 73 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: against Kentucky. They chuck it to him. He barely makes 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: the catch over our new guy who's six five double clutch, 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding double clutch, and he switches to 76 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: three and it was at the buzzer and we lose. 77 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: But honestly, I laughed. I was like, are you kidding me? 78 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: And it felt like a win because you know, we 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: were missing some of our horses. But at any rate, 80 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: that game caused me to have to record Victor Wembin 81 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Yama in the second half in his summer league game. 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: It had caused me to record on a second TV 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: USA Canada, so then I had to come home from 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: a basketball game, walk the dog and then watch all 85 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the sports after playing sports. I know, see this is 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: the kind of thing like I need to like downshift 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: on sports and like, you know, do other stuff. I 88 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: did fix the garage door opener. I'm sure some dads 89 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: at home will be happy to hear the wife put 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: that on the list of stuff I needed to do 91 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: and I did it. So I mean, you should have 92 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: seen the fist pumps got that garage door opener right 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: onto Women Yama. So let's be real here, guys, Wemen 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: Yama did not light the world on fire in the opener. 95 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I think he was two of thirteen, two or fifteen 96 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: something like that. But from my perspective, again, I just 97 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: watched Friday Night. I was watching Nikoxa, the soccer team. 98 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm a minority owner of watching that and Women Yama 99 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: same time, and I'm like, I like what I see 100 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: from Web and Yama, but I'm not on Twitter following 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: the narratives and you know, all the hot take artists. 102 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: Friday Night everybody's got a chine in. Oh my gosh, 103 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: he shot an airball. Oh my gosh, this teenager from 104 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: France who's seven foot five has the world watching him 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: in Vegas, and he had a rough game statistically. In 106 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: the opener, what am I missing? Okay, it happens. I 107 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: don't have the list of all the guys who struggled 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: in their first NBA Summer League game. But when Manyama 109 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: wasn't great. Now here's the thing. Though I watched the game, 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I saw some flashes. He's like off the dribble, pocket passes. 111 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, seven foot five, Like I know, 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: people said he's Porzingis. No, Porzicos didn't do any of 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: this stuff. No way, He's way more advanced in Porzingis. 114 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Porzenkas was mostly just a shooter and had some kind 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: of post tim game. He wasn't taking people off the bounce. 116 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: And then people are like, oh, he's Kevin Durant. He's 117 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: not Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is not grabbing rebounds and 118 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: just dunking instantly. He's not doing never did that. He's 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: a shooter. Whe Minyama is total unicorn and folks, so 120 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: after that Friday night game where he wasn't great. I 121 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: guess the narrative was, Oh, he stinks he's overrated, he's 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: getting pushed around. Rob G will fill you in. He's 123 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: aware of all this. Me Saturday, I woke up. You know, 124 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing. I didn't read the narratives. I'm 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: like cleaning the house and try to be a good 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: dad and like nerdy stuff, like I went to a 127 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: buddy's house to watch the UFC. I mean, I don't 128 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: watch a lot of UFC. But the two young guys 129 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: they got with the yellow shorts who fought some other 130 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: dude like busted his eye open. Like that fight was incredible. 131 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: And I know Coward was there taking a picture with 132 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray and sending it to me, say, hey, your 133 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: guy Jamal Murray. But like I did a lot of stuff. 134 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I did not read all the breathless takes about Victor 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Wembnyama's debut in the Summer League. Mind you, So then 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Sunday comes around wem ben Yama's second game, wouldn't you 137 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: know it? Twenty seven and twelve, twenty seven and twelve. 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I lost track how many blocks he had. We need 139 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: a new stat for Wembin Yama shots altered because I mean, 140 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: I know Shack used to alter shots. I'm sure in 141 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: his prime, Elijah one great shot blocker. Maybe Mark Eaton 142 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: shout out to anybody who remembers that guy Utah Jazz. 143 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Nobody wants the smoke of Webbin Yama. People in their mind, oh, 144 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ge him, I'm gonna unk on him, But 145 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: they don't. I don't think when they go like inside, 146 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize like how large he is. 147 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: And you could just meet people like a little surprised 148 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: and not cowering in fear, but just stunned his length. 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Rob there was a movie he did on the Baseline 150 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: where he like is driving baseline, sends a floater. He 151 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: literally goes out of bounds, comes back in and is 152 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: able to secure the rebound go up for an end 153 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: one and you watch it and you're like, like, that's 154 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: like I know people were saying, oh, Shack did that. Listen, 155 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: Shaq's just like throwing it up and playing like running 156 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: people over. This is simply going over people. I know 157 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Westbrook did this a lot where he's just taking awful 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: shots from the perimeter and chasing down his rebounds. This 159 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: is different, guy, This is totally different. Like, I don't 160 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: know why people are anti Webbin Yama. I don't know. 161 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Like he's a teenager, he's well spoken, he's from France. 162 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: He seems like a professional. Like I'm rooting for him. 163 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't get this. Hey, you guys know, I don't 164 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: like the Spurs. Have never been a Spurs fan. I 165 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: got a buddy who's a big soccer guy, who's like 166 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: a Spurs fan. He's all excited, and I'm like my 167 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: favorite Spurs players ever. I mean, I like the Admiral, 168 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: I like Sean Elliott, but Webby Yama's instantly number one. 169 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: I didn't love Tim Duncan just quiet too per start. 170 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Was he great, of course, I just he didn't have 171 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: like a personality. I didn't like him. I was a 172 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: young guy at that time. I want a personality. Shaq 173 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: was my guy. Don't tell Rob G but uh in 174 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the Shack Kobe squabble, I was team Shack for many years. 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I was at any rate, Rob. So I wonder do 176 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: I go online and see if the narrative has changed 177 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: after twenty seven and twelve from Wemby or do I 178 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: just say, you know, what. I don't really care what 179 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: these guys have to say. I'm gonna put together my 180 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: own observations, my takes, and you know, not to hell 181 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: with the unwashed masses out there. But like, I'm sorry, 182 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: like anybody who's rode him off after one game and 183 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: is now like, oh my gosh, he's great, Like I'm 184 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: not believing what you're selling anyway. Is that is that 185 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: wrong to. 186 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: Be rob No? I think that's absolutely fair. The people 187 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: who were the most vocal. I don't want to name 188 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: names because because I'm sure maybe part of it, maybe 189 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: even part of it wasn't jest, like, oh look what happened. 190 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: But when he got dunked on by Kai Jones on 191 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Friday night, that was like a snapshot in Twitter history. 192 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: NBA Twitter was going bananas. And it wasn't just the 193 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: fact that he got dunked on. It was the fact 194 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: that when body, I'm a I'm with you. I think 195 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: he's gonna be fantastic. But if you watch him play, 196 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: he does not play like a big man. He plays 197 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: like a shooting guard who just happens to be seven 198 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: foot five. And the only way that you can tell 199 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: that he is a seven foot five center really is 200 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: on the defensive end. And it even when the game 201 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: he had on Sunday Night, the twenty seven twelve, he 202 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: was shooting threes, he was putting the ball on the 203 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: deck like he was giving you the full repertoire that 204 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: has everybody so excited about him. And to your point, 205 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: if you are going to make a judgment based on 206 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,359 Speaker 2: Friday Nights game or Sunday Nights game as a standalone, 207 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: then you're doing it incorrectly, right. That's number one. Number two, 208 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: if you're basing any of your opinions off of what 209 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: Twitter says, then you don't belong in this space, right. 210 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: And I think that that brings me to a bigger point. 211 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 2: I wanted to run by you. Adrian Boje and the 212 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: Rowski front of the show Chris Brustar front of the 213 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: show were two of the most guys who got thrown 214 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: in the hot water the deepest with some of the 215 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: things they said about when Yamba before the lottery, WOJ 216 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: I believe called him said that he was the greatest 217 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: prospect in team sports history. I believe that Chris Brussard 218 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: said that if his career is Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis 219 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: it's a disappointment. But here's where I wanted to ask you. 220 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: Neither one of those guys. I know Chris, I work 221 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: with them every day. You know Chris pretty well too. 222 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: Chris does not follow international basketball like that, he does 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,239 Speaker 2: not follow college basketball like that. He watches you know, casually, 224 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: and he talks to people, so his opinions are not 225 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: formed off of him watching hours and hours of when 226 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: Byama tape. His opinions are formed off of this is 227 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: what this scout says, this is what this formal general 228 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: manager says, this is what this coach says, this is 229 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: what I've read about him, And this is why I 230 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: feel the way I feel. Why is it that guys 231 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: like WOJ and Broussard are getting killed for the things 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: that they say when they're basically just repeating what more 233 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: respected basketball minds have said. Case in point, over the weekend, 234 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: in between the terrible debut on Friday and the awesome 235 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: performance on Sunday night, Jerry West, the logo of the NBA, 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: one of the greatest talent evaluators this league has ever seen, 237 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: says that when Byama reminds him of a bigger Bill Russell, 238 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: if he's saying that, then why why is that, you know, 239 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: blasphemy for Wolf to say what he says or CB 240 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: to say what I mean. 241 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Let's put that in perspective a bigger Bill Russell. I'm 242 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: trying to think. I haven't looked at all of Bill 243 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: russell footage. Shocker from his you know, however lung he 244 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: played in the league. How many shots did he make 245 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: outside the link? Did you see like the sixteen footer 246 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: the MIDI that Wemby hit, Like, I guarantee you Bill 247 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: Russell was not hitting that shot. I'm almost go we 248 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: could see look at his career, maybe he hit like 249 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: ten of them, but a lot of his stuff was 250 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: inside close like layups, dunks, putbacks, you know, inside the paint. 251 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: He was not an He's not shooting sixteen footers. He 252 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: just was not. Bigs weren't doing that back then. So 253 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: I don't like the Bill Russell comparison from Jerry West. 254 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: But you have a great point on Brustard. So the 255 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: end I think we could agree is something of a crapshoot. Okay, 256 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: we know the NFL draft is very tough. Look no 257 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: further than evaluating quarterbacks and how difficult it is. I mean, 258 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the Niners, who have like the best roster in the 259 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: league trade up for Trey Lance. We're in year three 260 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: and it looks like Trey Lance is like the third 261 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: string guy and he's probably on his way out. Like 262 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: the Niners can evaluate talent, but not at quarterback. Kyle 263 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan knows quarterbacks couldn't evaluate Tree Lance. My jets, Zach Wilson, 264 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't even do to expand on that. How do 265 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: we know? And again I'm not calling out Bussard, he's 266 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: my guy. How do we know he wasn't talking to 267 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: the same scout that loved Anthony Bennett who went first 268 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: overall to the Cavs. Like scouts miss it happens. Here's 269 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: what I want to know. Who's the scout that convinced 270 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: the Nuggets to take Jokic forty first overall? Okay, Like again, 271 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: NBA is very difficult, Like even the guy's I text, 272 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: like I trust them. I know that. But like Rob, honestly, 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: you watch a lot of who like I mean, I'll 274 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: tell you right now, here's a guy you watch at 275 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Kansas State basketball team they're running the NCAA tournament. They 276 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: had the tiny guard it was like five to seven. 277 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if I'm on if I'm in an 278 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: NBA front office and I have multiple second round picks, 279 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: I am imploring our team, I want us to draft 280 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: that guy heart desire, even though the size. I get it. 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I saw that there was a stat that there was 282 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: like two players under six foot two drafted or something 283 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: something like that, that nobody wants to draft small guys. 284 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: In me, that's fine, that's fine. I'm just like, the 285 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: talent evaluation in the NBA is very spotty. Would you 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: agree with that? 287 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Sure? Absolutely? 288 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So like this idea that like woe just being 289 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: influenced by people, Okay, Broussard, Mark Steine, whoever you want 290 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: to say, Like nobody's batting a thousand or even close 291 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: to it. I mean, need I remind people Steph Curry 292 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: was the I think the third or fourth point coor 293 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: two point Tyreek Evans was like a combo, but it 294 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: was Johnny Flynn and it was Ricky Rubio drafted ahead 295 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: of Steph Curry, who's now a top ten player in 296 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: the history of the sport. So, like it's talent evaluation 297 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: is tough. But when it comes to Wembin Yama, I Rob, 298 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: like you could. I could have my brother who is 299 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: like a basketball fan, but he's not watching a lot 300 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: of college hoops. He's filling out of March badness bracket. 301 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, my twelve year old son, you know, you 302 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: watch wembinan Yama for five minutes and you're telling me 303 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: he's not going to be a great, great player. I 304 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: don't care if you've got twenty years of scouting or 305 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: you're a twelve year old kid like Victor. Wembin Yama 306 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: is just scratching the surface, Like, just keep it a perspective, Rob, 307 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about a teenager coming to America to play 308 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: in a huge fish bowl of Las Vegas, where his 309 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: security gets in a beef with Britney Spears, the pop star. 310 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Then he comes out the next night and lays something 311 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: of an egg according to the Twitter experts, I didn't 312 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: see that. I thought he was fine when you put 313 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: that stuff in perspective. And then in his second game 314 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: he goes for twenty seven and twelve to shut all 315 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: these guys up. What more does one bin Yama like? 316 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: Are people now gonna say, well, you better average thirty? 317 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. Nineteen year olds don't do that 318 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: in the NBA. Be realistic, Okay, If I think real's, 319 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: let's look realistic. Rob If I told you when bin 320 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Yama was gonna average nineteen eleven and four, is that 321 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: excessive or is that realistic? Remember spurs love to you know, 322 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: sit guys and rest them and minutes restrictions and all 323 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: that crap. They really ushered that stuff in. 324 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely realistic for him to average those 325 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: numbers as a rookie. 326 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: But would that be, oh, the most generational rookie ever. 327 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: That's a letdown, you know, and then someone will eventually say, 328 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: like Tyreek Evans average at twenty three as a rookie. 329 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that he did, but I'm sure somebody 330 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: averaged more than nineteen. Like, we just need perspective, and 331 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: I know it's it's a black and white world, especially 332 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: on social media. And if Victor one Ma's not amazing, 333 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: then he's a bust or he's overrated. There is no like, 334 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: oh boy, he's a pretty damn good rookie for nineteen 335 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: and seven foot five. What's he gonna do in his 336 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: second year? I mean, listen, Cheed Holmgren is a great 337 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: example didn't play as a rookie. Look super thin, people, 338 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's only summer League. He's shown some 339 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: pretty damn good flashes already, and he's got a better 340 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: supporting cast than Victor does in San Antonio. That's my 341 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: one concern is it's not like Keldon Johnson and Devin Veselle. 342 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: That's not a massive upgrade from what he's playing with 343 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: in the summer. Like this kid, Julian Champagne, I'm butchering 344 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: his name, but like he might, he might get minutes 345 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: for the Spurs this year. You know, a young kid. 346 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: They just don't have a lot of talent. But I'm 347 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: extremely bullish on Victor. Woman, ya, I get just scratching 348 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: the surface right now. 349 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: Rob Sure, well, okay, with all that in mind, and 350 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm pretty much in lockstep with you. We started this conversation, 351 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: and I started this conversation mentioning that Jerry West says 352 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: that he reminds him of a bigger Bill Russell, and 353 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: you scoffed, like, oh gosh, come on, we've seen women 354 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: Yama put the ball and look you see him shootree. 355 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: So that that's what brings me to this conversation again. 356 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: Bill Russell. You know, depending who you ask, is at 357 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: worst like a top twelve player, at best a top 358 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: five player in NBA history. Like depending generational, usually older 359 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: guys will put him up higher, the younger generation put 360 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: him up lower if he's anywhere in there. And Jerry 361 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: West calls him a bigger Bill Russell, and you think 362 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: that that's like an insult, wouldn't that then imply that 363 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: you are more in line with WOJ and Broussard's thinking 364 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: on his on women Yama's potential than you know, the 365 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: casual basketball fan. You're expecting him to be an all 366 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: time great, are you not. 367 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: That's tough because and I know that's a cop out, 368 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: it's going to sound like one. But like, so, Lebron 369 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: comes in, is in Cleveland, is pretty awesome. They go 370 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: to the finals, and then they don't get back and 371 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this guy's not great. They got swept. 372 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: Come on, well, look at the supporting cast. That stuff matters. 373 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: How many coaches did he have in Cleveland during the 374 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: first tour there. So he goes to Miami and it's like, oh, Miami, 375 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Lebron is a different dude. When he's he's got good teammates, Okay, 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: and that's when he took off in the legend growth. 377 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Then he goes back to Cleveland the Golden State win, 378 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: goes to the Lakers. Whin's another chip like it's weird, 379 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: I do, I think one bg ya. It's tough to say. 380 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Will he be an all time great? Like, okay, define 381 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: all time great? For me? 382 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Is he a top ten player in NBA history when 383 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: his career is over? 384 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: So I'm almost certain nobody thought Steph Curry would be 385 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: an all time great, a top ten player all time. 386 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm certain people don't. 387 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: Think Luka Doncics will be. I think that is certainly 388 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: in play. One benyam my top ten player all time. Certainly, 389 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: I think it's within reach now he's seventy five. I've 390 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: guys his size. I think I saw stat nobody over 391 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: seven foot three has how tall was your bar seven 392 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: one or seven two or something? 393 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: He was seven to two listed at seven. 394 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: I think somebody skewed the stat where nobody over seven 395 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: foot three has played like over a thousand games in 396 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: their career because of the injuries of the the to 397 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: the feet. I think Mark Eaton like was the closest 398 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I'd need to fully drill down on that stat. But 399 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: it's like the you know the history of players' size, 400 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of against him barring you know, barring health. Yes, 401 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: I do think Victor wo Minyama will probably end up 402 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: being a top ten player all time. He's nineteen. I 403 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: think by twenty twenty one, he's gonna Listen, we did, 404 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: is he gonna be an All NBA player as a rookie? 405 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: And it really depends on where you call what position 406 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: he's at, because I know you're saying he's like a wing, 407 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: but rob, just from what you've seen in two games, 408 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: if he plays center, tell me who were the centers 409 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: for all the NBA for a second and third team 410 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: next year? 411 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you'll be an All MBA. I 412 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: mean you got Yo getchen MBID one and two. 413 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Okay, why don't you there? You go? Okay, who's the 414 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: third team All NBA center? 415 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: A D or Bam a D? 416 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: You think AD's playing enough games? Come up? 417 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: That's a good guy, that's a good point. That's a 418 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: good I guess. 419 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: Who was going to have bam at a Bayo? 420 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 421 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: Interesting? Will his numbers be down if Dame shows up? 422 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: Probably? But you'd also don't make all NBA on bad teams. 423 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's expecting the Spurs to be a. 424 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Good team, fair so, and that's why I had wish 425 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: they had made a move on a Fred van Vliet 426 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: or someone. But I just I don't see a path 427 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: to them to like forty wins, do you no? 428 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: I think you know. I haven't looked at their Vegas 429 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: over unders, but I think somewhere in the thirty five 430 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: range would be. Yeah, okay, let's see. 431 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: I think they won like two or something, So thirty 432 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: five thirteen game improvement we've seen that's not insurmountable. Again, 433 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: I don't even think Shack made the playoffs as a rookie, 434 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: so why would we expect one. Ben Yama too, and 435 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Shaq was otherworldly entering the league, and he was older. 436 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: I think he was two years at LSU, right, So listen, 437 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: I think it by year two one Ben Yama will 438 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: be a stud. And I think year three we're talking 439 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: about like a top five to six player in the league. 440 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: I think that's in play top five because remember, by 441 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: year three, Curry's now thirty eight, Lebron potentially retired, Kevin Durant. 442 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we would agree. Lebron is on 443 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the back nine for sure, Kevin Durant back nine, Curry 444 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: back now like these guys are. I mean, Curry's still 445 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: at a high level, don't get me wrong, but three 446 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: years from now, I think you were talking about wehm 447 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: bn Yama is like one of five best players in 448 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: the league, right there with Luka Doncic, who's still in 449 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: his mid twenties. In three years. I don't know. I 450 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: just looked this up. It's funny. I made a bet 451 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: with a over the weekend. Do you know how many 452 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: players averaged thirty points per game last year? 453 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: Rob seven? Eight? 454 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: Don't look go eight? 455 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go? 456 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean Shake Gilders Alexander averaged thirty points a game 457 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: last year. Sgidn't. I didn't know that. So my bet 458 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: with this guy. He's a big Warriors fan. He was 459 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: not a Jordan Poole guy. And I said, I will 460 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: is dumb of me to set the line high, But 461 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: I said, I think Pool will average over twenty nine 462 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: and a half points per game next year in Washington. 463 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna go Scorge to Earth, And my buddy's like, 464 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: no way. I was like, dude, it's him and Kuzma. 465 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Jacken Porzingis put up twenty three a game with Beal 466 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: and Kuzma. Now Jordan Pool just getting all the He's 467 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna take all the shots. So this league is weird. 468 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: Guys like some of the scoring, some of the numbers 469 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: you just you like because the pace is so much 470 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: quicker and the threes are so much more prevalent, Like 471 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: guys can get points quick like buckets. And I wouldn't 472 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: be shocked in three years if one is like a 473 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: MVP candidate at like twenty one to twenty, like remember 474 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: Luka Doncics by year three was like, oh my gosh, 475 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: this guy like an MVP candidate taking the match to 476 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: the playoffs, Like I'm putting I'm putting one Vidyama in 477 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: that rarefied air. I Again, I know people will say 478 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: better than Bill Russell. And then the argument was Bill 479 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: Russell that good in his time when there were nine 480 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: teams in the league and zero international players, and according 481 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: to JJ Reddick, like the best point guards of that 482 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: era didn't dribble with their left hand, Like I don't know, 483 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: like I'm not diminishing or denigrating Bill Russell in his 484 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: time at all time great rob in today's NBA? Like, 485 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: is Bill Russell? Have we've done this before? What what 486 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: is he? Oh? 487 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: He's he's Robert Williams. 488 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Oh god, I was gonna say he's more than Jared Vanderbilt. 489 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: But that's a little no that I'm just kidding. That's mean, 490 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: but that that would be like his role defense and rebounding, right, 491 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: because again we're just taking nineteen Bill Russell and putting 492 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: him in this era. And that's like people are like, no, 493 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: that's unfair because you're not giving him the same medicals 494 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: and diet and regimen and all this stuff. I was like, well, 495 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: that's not fair. How do you I mean, obviously Bill 496 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Russell would be in great shape and be a much 497 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: better player and shooting threes. But now we're just envisioning 498 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: stuff like that. We're just making up a player. I 499 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: want to take exactly what he did in that era 500 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: and put it in this era, and in times have 501 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: just changed, so I don't. I mean, I get Bill 502 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Russell and his era was incredible. Wembanyama health pending in 503 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: his era will be amazing. 504 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: I would agree with you, and I know we're up 505 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: against it with the clock. But let me just say 506 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 2: that the wem Banyama roller coaster that we saw over 507 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: the weekend, the lows and the highs, Brandon Miller has 508 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: to be thanking as lucky stars right now that this 509 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: guy exists, because there would be a lot of eyes 510 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: focused on what Brandon Miller has doing or not been 511 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: doing during the Summer League. So he should be praying 512 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: and thanking God that Victim wimen Yama just exists right now. 513 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: It's funny the more tape you get, the less impressive 514 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: everybody looks. So Scoot Henderson played three quarters and looked amazing. 515 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: And if you just watch the YouTube reel, which has 516 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: like seventy five million views already, it's like, oh my gosh, 517 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Scoot Henderson, did you see the reverse scoop lay up 518 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: under the backboard, Like, oh my god, this guy's dominant. 519 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Get Dame Lillard out of there, now, you know that 520 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: kind of deal. Brenda Millers now had three games, and 521 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: you've had three games to digest and people are just like, ooh, 522 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: that's a Michael Jordan pick. That was Michael Jordan influenced. 523 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: Like remember wod said there was like no debate whatsoever. 524 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: That was their guy. They locked it on Miller, I said, 525 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: I would have gone Scoot. I think you like Scoot 526 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: as well? 527 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: Right, I did like Scoot. 528 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: Yep. You almost wonder now do they take a bit 529 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: of a lesser deal just to move on from Dame 530 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: and start the Scoot clock. I still think you got 531 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: a whole firm. I think fans are going to get restless. 532 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I think because they have school. I think opposite. 533 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: I think because they have scooted that they're going to 534 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: be able to be more selective because they can just 535 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: wait this thing out, like they're in no hurry. They 536 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: already have their future in their hands. Anything they get now, 537 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: they're not going to accelerate the process, you know what 538 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 2: I mean? If that makes sense? 539 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Rob, If Dame is on the roster 540 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: opening night, he's starting, he's playing thirty minutes, thirty five 541 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and he's taken twenty shots, Like, what 542 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: do you mean Anthony Simon's he's making thirty million a year? 543 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: Is he not playing like Shaden sharp Scoot? Like, I 544 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: don't see how Scoot's playing fifteen minutes a game. 545 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 2: Oh, he's playing the roster twenty five to thirty minutes. 546 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: They'll play six guards if they have to. Just you know, 547 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: they'll put Jeremy Grant at center. That's what they'll have 548 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: to do. 549 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Hey, I just this just hit me because you mentioned 550 00:27:51,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: something about one Minyama. But okay, hypothetical next year's draft, 551 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: the Spurs say, hey, let's let's go grab Bronnie James. 552 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: If Bronnie just has a good year at USC not 553 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: first round pick, and he goes in a second, do 554 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: the Spurs take a chance on Bronni and then they 555 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: would get Lebron who would then show Wembin Yama how 556 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: to be a pro and how to deal with all 557 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: the shit that you got to deal with. Remember, Lebron 558 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: is and I know people hate when I say this. 559 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: Lebron was on the cover of SI at sixteen fifteen 560 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: or sixteen, like the Chosen One. And he has never 561 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: been in trouble with the law. He is married, he's 562 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: got kids. He's like, I know people are against him. Oh, China, Jason, China, Like, 563 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: just be quiet. Lebron has had a sterling career on 564 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: and off the court. He's a business mogul. Like I 565 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: saw him at an AU tournament. I mean, I wasn't there, 566 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: but I saw the highlights. He's coaching his son's team, 567 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and I see him then talking to Cooper Flagg, who 568 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: is this ridiculously talented sixteen year old who's like six 569 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: foot ten, is averaging like ten blocks a game, and 570 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: Lebron's like talking to him, and it's just like, man, 571 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: guy's a freaking leader, he's a mentor. It's awesome, and 572 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: it hit me. I'm like, man, that's not a bad 573 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: idea to have Lebron there with you and pop along 574 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: with one Minyama? Or is that just too much because 575 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: then Lebron would steal some of the thunder. Lebron and 576 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: Bronni would steal the thunder. Or do they want some 577 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: of that thunder away from one Minyama so he can 578 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: flourish without the spotlight. There's a lot there, Rob. 579 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. I guess if you are, 580 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, follow social media like that, which I know 581 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: you were busy on Sunday night, But I believe that 582 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: Lebron tweeted that congratulations the great Popovich for that massive 583 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: contract extension and was saying like, hey, next one dinner 584 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: is on you. So maybe the seeds have been planted 585 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: for a Lebron to San Antonio twenty twenty four. Well, 586 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: I mean that would be We're not interesting. 587 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: That's a great point. We're not gonna talk about it now. 588 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: But the Anthony Davis clock starts hearing about what three weeks, 589 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: we'll get to this tomorrow. And you know, Lebron, you 590 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: just got one more year with the Lakers. So wherever 591 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: his son gets drafted, he's going there, like lock that in. 592 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Houston, Orlando, Philly. Lebron's going there. 593 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: The question is who's gonna take bronni and wants to 594 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: deal with all that comes with it, which means a 595 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of ticket sales, a lot of National TV games. 596 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot there. But this one Ben Yama stuff, 597 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: even if people are against it, and it's okay, fine, 598 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Rob will close with this. Do you feel there is 599 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: a weird just I don't want to like one Ben 600 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: Yama because the media loves him. Do you feel any 601 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: sense of that? 602 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because there is a large segment of the population 603 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: who is anti media, anti you know, they believe the 604 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: media as the enemy. And this has been going back 605 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: for several years now. It became politicized kind of thing. 606 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: So there is one thousand percent a portion of basketball 607 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: fans who less want don't want women Yana to succeed, 608 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: and more that they want the media to be wrong. Again, 609 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: that's what they want. 610 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Disappointing guys. I just hope our audience is not that 611 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: lowest common denominator. Oh what, the media to be wrong. 612 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't care about women. I just want the media. Like, 613 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: do you get life is like the majority of life 614 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: is being wrong. That's the reality. Like, who cares if 615 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: the media is right or wrong? You're wasting your time 616 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: focusing on the media and you should be just enjoying life. 617 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: Who cares about the media? H damn it? Rob, Now 618 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: you got me fired up? Anyways, all right, just we'll 619 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: plant that Anthony Davis seed and then drill down on 620 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: him tomorrow. I'm trying to get my guy Ben Verlander 621 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: on the podcast to talk about Otani and the Angels 622 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: and should they trade him. I think it's a fascinating topic. 623 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: So a lot of fun stuff this week. I oh, 624 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: heads up, PSA. I will be hosting The Herd again 625 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: on Friday, another vacation day for cow Herd. Wonder where 626 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: he's jet setting to this week, so put that in 627 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: your phone calendar. Friday, your boy hosting the Herd, some 628 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: more fire takes. Talk to you tomorrow.