1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to The Billy Show. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Aleki. It's the 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Philly Show. It's Friday, December fifth, twenty twenty five. We 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: have a very fun show for you guys. Today we 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: got Joe Decameron from WIP to talk to some Phillies 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: and talk about his new book. Let me throw that 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: graphic up on the screen right here. It's the best 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: of Philly Sports, Amazing moments and stories in Philadelphia sports history. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: And I loved what he said, kind of the impetus 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: of writing this book, why he wanted to write it, 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: kind of a cool backstory, which kind of makes you 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: want to buy it, which makes you want to buy. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: And that kind of makes you want to buy it, 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: makes you want to buy the book. 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: No, I did buy it. 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: Why he wanted to write the book. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: I did buy it. I think Ruben got his for free. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 3: I bought mine, Listen, I. 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Got mine for free, and I got mind signed. 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Oh look at that. 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: You close that inscription very fast, Ruben. 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: Be a forgery, but it's not. It's the real deal, 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: the real deal, Holy Field. 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Uh So we're gonna get to Joe in a bit. 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: But the Winter Meetings begin next week in Orlando, Florida. 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be down there, you know what. Real quickly, guys, 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: what are you guys hoping to see next week from 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: the Phillies at the Winter meetings? Ruben, why don't you 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: lead us off? 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you'd like to get some clarity as 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: quickly as possible on what. 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen with Kyle Schwarber. 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the biggest ticket name and NJ T. 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I gotta believe that at some point. I don't know 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: how long it's going to be dragged out on the 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Ranger Suarez situation, but the Dylan CS thing certainly affects him, 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: as we talked about before. But but but for me, 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: it's about Kyle Schwarber because I think once they know 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: what's going on with Coylee Schwarber, whether he's with the 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Phillies or he's with the Cincinnati Reds, or he's with 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, pitts Pirates not happening, or whatever team it 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: is he's with, then I think that they can go 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: about the rest of their business because that's the top 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: priority forum and move forward. I do believe that if 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: it's not done during these winter meetings, I think shortly thereafter, 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I think you'll have some clarity on it. But love 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: to see it get worked out and find out and 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: get some clarity on Kyles Shwart first and foremost and 49 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: then go from there. 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Well, you know what I noticed, Ruben, You went you 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: were all hot and heavy on Tuesday show talking about 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: Schwarber and the Cincinnati Reds. And then what happened after that? 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: You My colleague at MLB dot com, Mark Sheldon, writes 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: a story about the Reds, you know, in the hunt 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: in the pursuit are part of foul territory. Ken Rosenthal 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: writes a story about it. So, Ruben, you're kind of 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: u A. 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: I am, I am am I making things happen? 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: Am I dropping the mic? 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: You're dropping the mic? 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: My man, you're dropping the mic. 62 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: It was pretty good stuff, some. 63 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: Things that sort of made sense. 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean, as far as you know the overall needs 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: of certain teams and where that they can push their 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, push their the ovelop Well. 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: The Reds, the Reds are in it, but I don't 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: think they can win it. And I think this is 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: the Phillies game to win Uh, with Kyle Schwarber. And 70 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: that is the perfect word clarity in terms of Kyle Schwarber, 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: because he is the lynch pin. He's sort of the 72 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: the pivot on this entire postseason for the Phillies because 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: once you find out if you got him as your 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: big ticket, that's your big ticket. Now the rest is, 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: you know, j T dressing the bullpen, figure out what 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna do in the outfield. But you've got to 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: figure out what you're gonna what's gonna happen with Schwarver, 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: because if you don't get him back, you can spend 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: your big ticket elsewhere, possibly Pete Alonzo, possibly Bobush. I 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: don't know, but I think, uh, it's gonna end up 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: being Kyle Schwarber. I feel like it's getting close here 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: and it's kind of moving toward us. I think the 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: winter meetings will spur some activity. I don't think Kyle 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: wants to go deep into October. That's just kind of 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: my gut feel of it. Also my eyes around what 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: happens with Schwarber and how that will springboard the rest 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: of the Phillies plan their winter. I'm watching don't. 88 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Forget Bellinger and Tucker as part of that too. Tucker 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: maybe not as much, but Bellinger certainly. 90 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, And I'm not feeling either one of those 91 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: guys really for the Phillies, especially not Tucker. I think 92 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: if that's going to approach four hundred, I just don't 93 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: see that happening here. But you know, they want Schwarber, 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: they want rail Mudo. We're gonna see how much progress, 95 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: and I'm sure they've been working hard on it. We're 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: just gonna see if this the winter meetings could signal 97 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: a home stretch on either one of those guys. I 98 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: don't know. I feel like it could. But one other 99 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: thing I'm keeping my eye on is other Minnesota Twins 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: is gonna make Byron Buxton available? Is Byron Buxton gonna 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: make himself available? I think that could be an interesting 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: conversation for the Phillies to have because he would check 103 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: a couple of blocks the center field and right handed 104 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: power guy in the middle. I think you'd really help 105 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: your twenty twenty six club. I know he's got a 106 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: lot of you know, those injury issues, but it would 107 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: be a heck of a roll of the dice for 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: a team that's really desperate to win now. 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: I you know, selfishly speaking, I'd just like to see 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: some a little creativity, a little surprise move to come 111 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: out of it, besides Schwarburt, besides Realmuto. It would be 112 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: fun to have like a nice, a good old fashioned 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: baseball trade come out of this. Imagine that, Yeah, good 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: old fashioned baseball trade. Dave Dombrowski has been known to 115 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: make a few of those in his day, made a 116 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: couple before the trade deadline, of course, getting Joan durn 117 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: and Harrison Bader. So, Dave, if you're out there listening, 118 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: give us something to write about next week at the 119 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: Winter Meetings. But we got Joe Decamra coming up right now, 120 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: and we asked him, of course what he wants to 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: see at the Winter Meetings, and of course to talk 122 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: about his new book. Here's Joe. We are joined right 123 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: now by wip's Joe Decamera. Joe, how are you man? 124 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on the Philly Show, where we're honored 125 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: to have you on during this holiday season. 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: Thank you, Todd. I'm happy to be here. Aloa to Todd, 127 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: Jim and Reuben. Great to see all you guys, and 128 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: wonderful man. I appreciate it well, so my bosses. 129 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Guys, another one of my bosses, joins us. 130 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: That's right, and we're gonna talk with Joe in a 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: little bit about he's got a book. He's not only 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: an esteemed sports talk show host, morning show and WIP, 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: but he's got the best of Philly sports, amazing moments 134 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: and stories and Philadelphia sports history. It's wherever you can 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: get your books right now, all over the play where 136 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Jim's got one and. 137 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: Thank you, hold on, hold on, don't go crazy. 138 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: Now, Jim's got one on his person, Ruben's got one 139 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: on his person. I put the graphic together. So that's 140 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: that's my contribution, Joe. But Joe, we were just talking 141 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: about the Winter Meetings. They begin next week. So well, 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: before we get to the book, we want to ask 143 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: you about the Phillies. 144 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just talking. 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: About the Winter Meetings. What do you want to see 146 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: happen next week? At the Winter Meetings? Rule five draft 147 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: ends Wednesday afternoon, all the reporters and the teams get 148 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: on their flights going back to Philly from Orlando. What 149 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: do you want to see the Phillies have done? 150 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: Well, Look, it's a really complicated situation and I'll just 151 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: say this before I answer. I think it's the most 152 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: fascinating Phillies all season that I can ever remember in 153 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: my lifetime. I mean, there's the confluence of so many things. 154 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: We don't have to reveal them. Everyone knows. I'll just 155 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: tell you I'm pretty pro running it back now. Obviously, 156 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: you know, there comes a point where that becomes unwise 157 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: a certain amount of years, certain amount of dollars, and 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: it's hard, you know, as we all have these discussions 159 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: in October and November and December, and it will probably 160 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: drift into January, maybe February. It's a little hard to 161 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: talk walk in the abstract. You know, we don't know 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: what the highest bidder will be for Shoreburn. We just 163 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: don't know. So I'll just say, if things don't get 164 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: too crazy where it then becomes such a preventative factor 165 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: for the Phillies to have the ability to sign others 166 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: and be nimble. And if it's not for too many years, 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: where then you really hurt Let's say Andrew Painter's future. 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: If he's your guy in twenty thirty one and he's 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: the next you know, Wheeler, but he's got all these 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: old bats and they can't you know, hit the ball. 171 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: Then then obviously there's got to be a walking away point. 172 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: But to be really simple, Todd, I would just say 173 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: I thought the Phillies were one of the five best 174 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: teams in baseball last year. I'm not as down on 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: them as many across the Delaware Valley were and probably 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: still are. You know, if you gave me the same team, 177 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'd be thrilled, but I think they'd 178 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 4: have a real shot. I think this is more about 179 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: trying to run it back for the most part, while 180 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: making some adjustments, you think in terms of Boom and others, 181 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: because you don't want to have the exact same team. 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 4: Obviously you're not gonna have the same team in the outfield. 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: We know that, so but I you know, generally speaking, 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: if they could get Schwarberg j At, I think that'd 185 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: be fantastic. 186 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: Jim what he got. 187 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: I agree they need those two guys back. I sometimes 188 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: detest the phrase running it back because this team is 189 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: in a situation where they need to capitalize in the 190 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: next year or two while they still the guys that 191 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: are here, the Harpers, the Turners, the Wheelers and all those. 192 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: You can't just let that nucleus die on the vine 193 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: if they could do one first of all, do you 194 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: think they're going to get those two guys back in 195 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: your opinion? And if they could do one thing beyond that, 196 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: what would you like to see? 197 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 4: Well, I'll say yes, And it's obviously totally just a guess. 198 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 4: I mean, you couldn't have more of a guess than 199 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: that was when I just answered that, Jim. But I 200 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: tend to think they will. But I will tell you 201 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: there's one thing, Jim, I disagree with what you said, 202 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 4: which is this concept that you can't let that part 203 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: of the nucleus go or per se. What I think 204 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: you're really said I should say is you can't let 205 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: the remaining nucleus die on the vine. And here's where 206 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: I disagree with that. The LA Dodgers just won the 207 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: World Series for the second time in two years, and 208 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: I guess what the third time in five or six, 209 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: whatever the heck it is. And they've changed their nucleus 210 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: five times in the last ten to fifteen years. You know, 211 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: I think one of the arguments about walking away from 212 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: Shoreber and JT in particular is you know, at times 213 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: you just gotta restock the nucleus and even if you 214 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: have to go down for a year. See one thing 215 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: I think the Phillies have in their back pocket if 216 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 4: they walk away from Shoreber and JT and Ruben. You 217 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: didn't have this to the full extent, you know in 218 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: your eras GM, certainly someone like Lee Thomas you go 219 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: back thirty forty years ago, did and have this. Is 220 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: you can still make the play as an eighty seven 221 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 4: win team. That's a third wild card. And you know 222 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: the reality, I mean, even an eighty five win team 223 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: can make the playoffs. And I think with this starting pitching, 224 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: you know it's very possible this team can just keep 225 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: it going and needs to be careful about committing to 226 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: the wrong pats for the wrong years. 227 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: So what you're saying is I need Shwarber's power. If 228 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: we're not going to get Sharber's power back, If Phillies 229 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: are not going to get Sharba's power back, they better 230 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: get it like an Alonso. They need to you know, 231 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: they need to bring in a guy who can deliver 232 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: that type of power. 233 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: Well, I agree, I mean, look, I agree, it's what 234 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: you want. I guess what I'm saying is I think 235 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: there is an argument that they can make the playoffs 236 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: if they have the exact same team without Kyle Schwarber, 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 4: I guess that is it, and that means not getting 238 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: Peede Alonzo. You know you have Darren Roff. I mean, 239 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm giving you a ridiculous example, but like they have 240 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: elite starting pitching, and so it's a it's a fine 241 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: line between you're trying to strike now, particularly as you're 242 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: saying you might only have Wheeler for two more years, 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: but you don't want to hurt the deep future. That's 244 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: where I'm at. 245 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: So in a vacuum knowing that you do not have 246 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: JT and Schwarber right now as the team stands today, 247 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: if you're going to prioritize, how would you go one, two, 248 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: and three? 249 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 4: Joe, Well, you want to start with Schwarber number one. 250 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: He's the best player of all those guys. I think 251 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: it gets really complicated if he holds them up the longest. 252 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: Meaning it's a simpler situation of Schwarber is one of 253 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 4: the first big name guys in free agency to sign, 254 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: because then you know you have to pivot. If you 255 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: choose to pivot and you have time to pivot, I 256 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 4: would try to do Schorober first, So I guess I 257 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: would go Shober one, JT two, altfielder guy third. I mean, 258 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: it's sad we're not even talking about Ranger. I think 259 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: we all know he's pretty much much gone unless there's 260 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: some unique trade that trades away a good or great picture, 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: you know, maybe for an outfield or that's possible, But 262 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: even that from a payroll standpoint, doesn't still feel too 263 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: because the pictures you'd be talking about trading, like theoretically 264 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: lozartist that doesn't make a ton of money. So it's 265 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: one of those scenarios where I just think it's really 266 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: sad that Rangers probably going to be gone and there's 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: just about nothing you can do about it. Do you 268 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: guys agree? Do you guys agree with that? 269 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: I had JT. 270 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: I had JT first. I had to catcher because it's 271 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: such an important position. I can understand Schwarber because he's 272 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: so important. 273 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 3: Otherwise, power. 274 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: Make up all the other intangibles. 275 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: It's almost like a one in one a But I 276 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: go catch her first because it's the most important position 277 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: on the field for me, and it affects the pitching 278 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: in a way that's pretty sure. 279 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: Well, here's something I think the Phillies also could use 280 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: and it doesn't quite it's hard to stack up one, two, 281 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: three cents, but I'll just tell you guys, I think 282 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: they could use a creative trade. We've seen it before. 283 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: We look, we saw the ninety three fills in many 284 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: ways get built by creative trades. I mean mu'holland is 285 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: brought in by a trade, you know, Sammy for for Lenny, 286 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: I mean Crucker was brought in from a trade. You know, 287 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: they could use one of them, and they're not easy 288 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: to pull off obviously, and Lazarda was an unbelievably quality, 289 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: you know, somewhat creative trade last year. But they it 290 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: just feels like, and we've been saying this for a 291 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: couple of years, there's there's just a log jam the 292 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: way they're built structurally, payroll wise, and I just feel 293 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: like if they could come up with something that sort 294 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: of unlogjam them, that would help. But you know, we 295 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: all know that's not easy to do. 296 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: Well. If they do JT and Schwarber, they are going 297 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: to be pretty close to tapped out unless they could 298 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: move maybe a bomb, maybe a strom you're gonna free up. 299 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, if you did that, you free up about 300 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: seventeen million, then you can maybe get created on the 301 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: trade front. But if you do the two big guys, 302 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: you probably look, your next move has to come in 303 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: a trade. And and to me, that creative trade could 304 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: be a guy like Byron Buxton, who to me would 305 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: check two boxes, you know, middle little bet right handed 306 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: gendle of the auto right fielder. That's where you're getting creative. 307 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: You know. 308 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if the Twins would be interested in 309 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: a whole lot off your big league roster, but maybe 310 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: something after your uh, after your top two painter and Miller. 311 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you could put together something there to bring 312 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: him in because you know, age wise, I know he's 313 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: up there. I know he gets hurt. But I got 314 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: to roll the dice that he can help me win 315 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: next year. 316 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: Just got to do it next year, for sure. 317 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: That's what it's appealing. I mean, we all know it's appealing. 318 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: And you know, I just think it's an unbelievable off season. 319 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: I I I look, I'm still really and by the way, 320 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: with how much the Eagles are struggling. I mean just 321 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: you know, I say, they're not like struggling massively. They're 322 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: eight and four, but the last couple of weeks have 323 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: been brutal, and the offense has been brutal. And I 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: made the point today on our show that I'm really 325 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: starting at Jones for the Phillies now. So I'm loving 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: talking about all this stuff with you guys, because I 327 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: know the way it ended, you know, was brutal and all. 328 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: But you know, give me a lot more Phillies baseball. 329 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: I think they're likely to have a very good team again, 330 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: and I just love talking about this stuff. 331 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely mean, you're gonna have a good team. 332 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: They're gonna play in October again next year. 333 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: They are. And again that's part of my theory of 334 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: why you don't necessarily have to have Schwarber. I very 335 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: very much want them, but. 336 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: But you need someone to pick up the power and 337 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: the threat. 338 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: And the protect in the lineup for the for the 339 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: other left handed bat. I mean, for the first basement. 340 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: I'm fine with replacing them, as long as I got 341 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: something pretty darn good. 342 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: I'd like to see some creativity in the outfield, for sure. 343 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: CASTI Onix won't be back. You know, It's funny, Joe 344 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: when you said the one two or Reuben, I think 345 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: he said one two three I didn't even think you 346 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: were talking about Ranger because I just considered him as 347 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: good as gone. I'm thinking you're talking about Harrison Bader 348 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: and that in that sense. So that's where I'm going. 349 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I think Rangers is good is gone. The 350 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: Dylan C's contract has him gone seven years, two hundred 351 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: ten million. I mean, it's a great, great week for 352 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: Ranger last week in that regard, but I'm thinking they 353 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: they got to figure out something to do in the 354 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: outfield because the outfield production has been pretty bad and 355 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: I don't think he can go into the next season. 356 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: Go and Justin Crawford's gonna hit three point fifteen with 357 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: an eight hundred ohps. I think you're gonna hit him ninth. 358 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: Hopefully he can do enough stuff to stay in the lineup, 359 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: but I want to see a good bat either in 360 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: centerfield or in right field. 361 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: Well, I agree, but I'll add this when you bring 362 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 4: up Crawford and you think about Aiden Miller and others, 363 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: you know, whether it's next year or beyond, the reality 364 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: is they are going to need some of these guys 365 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: to come through. And you know, I'm just thinking about 366 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: it as you guys are all talking there, I guess, 367 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: unless I'm missing someone, I think Stott is the last 368 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: quality player. And when I say quality, like average player 369 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: that they brought up from the farm system prior to that, 370 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 4: I guess it would be Boom in twenty twenty. So 371 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: you're now talking about being halfway through a decade. And 372 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: unless I'm missing someone, I guess this decade it's really 373 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 4: only been Stock and Boom and that's really not much. 374 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: Am I missing anybody? I don't think I am right 375 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: in the position of the any of the arms or 376 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: what have you. 377 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Not. 378 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: Really they were all pre pre the decade or were 379 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: brought in from outside. Okay, Kurt Listen deserves credit for 380 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: being a guy that you just said this decade. But 381 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: the point the point is that's not much. For half 382 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: a decade in that's not much. And that's where you 383 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: really can't start getting into trouble. And you know, they 384 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: got to get some hits there. They got it. They 385 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: got to get some hits. So it's appealing to trade 386 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: guys away, but we also know that to keep this 387 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: thing going for the long, long haul, a lot of 388 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: times you just need those farm system guys to be 389 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 4: the next generation. 390 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you look at the old eight team, it 391 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: was largely built, it was all it was all through 392 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: the draft, scouting development. I'd even put Victorino on that 393 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: list because he was a good pluck in the Rule 394 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: five and then he went to Triple I and became 395 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: the MVP of the internationally, he was finished off by 396 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: their player development system. 397 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess, And I would just add this, 398 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: there's never, to the best of my knowledge, there's never 399 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 4: really been a second consecutive wave of great farm system 400 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: guys in the history of the Phillies. Now maybe I'm 401 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: missing it, but I'm thinking back to the seventies that 402 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: created eighty you know, and pretty much created eighty three, 403 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: and there was some some tinkering that created eighty three, 404 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: but it wasn't like the Kevin Gross, Charlie Hudson, even 405 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: Lonnie Smith who was te you know, it was gone after, 406 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: you know, soon after eighty and Keith Moreland, like, they 407 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: didn't become the new nucleus. And you know, certainly after 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: Reuben your squad in eight, nine, ten eleven, there was 409 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: no new nucleus. So they need they need another wave. 410 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: That's how that's how you keep Look, there's only two 411 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: ways to keep it going. One as you spend like 412 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: the Dodgers, or two as you have another wave. I 413 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: guess three is you have you know, like the Brave Side, 414 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 4: perhaps the greatest pitching staff in the last fifty years, 415 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 4: and they all stay healthy for fifteen years. But you 416 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: know what are the chances of that? Yeah? 417 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean all you gotta do is look at the 418 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Yankees and see what they did in the nineties. I 419 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: mean that they're nucleus were Yankees. I mean you had Persada, 420 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: you had the short Stop, you had Jeter. 421 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: You had Bernie, Bernie Williams. 422 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: I mean, they're all had had it, but they also 423 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 4: had But I will say this, will I hear you 424 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 4: on that. You know they also have that ability to 425 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: really throw this at you too, Carrats And I think 426 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 4: that was, frankly the bigger thing, I really do, because 427 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: think about how quick that list just ran out. Rube. 428 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 4: You said four, and they're four truly great ones. But 429 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: I mean they they were. They were bringing in waves 430 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: of current or former All Stars every year. You know, 431 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: it was unbelievable to add to that piece. 432 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: And most teams are built that way. You gotta you know, 433 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: there's a lot of players that are drafted by one 434 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: organization don't become stars, so they're second organization. So if 435 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: you can get no doubt you two or three home 436 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: grown own supplement around the edges. That's, you know, how 437 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: you build a team. 438 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: And I'll say I think keep, I think Lizardo maintaining 439 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: let's call it quality or excellence, whatever word you want 440 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: to put next to his name, and being signed is 441 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 4: a really important part because he's still a pretty young 442 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: player for what I would call the next generation. I mean, 443 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: at some point Wheeler is not going to be here. 444 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: I think we all feel pretty darn confident in Sanchez, 445 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: but you know you're gonna need especially as Nola lags, 446 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: there's uncertainty with Wheeler. You're probably gonna lose Ranger. You 447 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 4: don't truly know what you have in Painter until he 448 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: pitches at the big league level. So to me, Lozardo 449 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: is a very important figure to you know, And I 450 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: will tell you guys, I do think there's an argument, 451 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: and I don't think they'll really have the guts to 452 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 4: truly do it, but I think there's an argument to 453 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: go to Lozardo right now and his agent and say 454 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: sign a contract right now, or ile traja and I'll 455 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: sign right now because you know you hear about that 456 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: bird in the hand or whatever that's saying is. And 457 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: the bottom line is there's an argument in twelve months 458 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 4: they could be without both Lozardo and Ranger. And part 459 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: of my theory is, like, hey, guys, who wants to 460 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: sign first? Who wants to sign first? I mean, they 461 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: could negotiate right now with Ranger and Lozardo simultaneously, knowing 462 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: that the objective is to keep one of them long term. 463 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: And if Lozarda doesn't sign, you could say, well, I 464 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: can get Ranger and lozardro and trading you for an outfielder. 465 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not that's the kind of creative trade 466 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. That's not crazy talk. 467 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: I definitely think I could see them doing that in 468 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: this spring, Lizardo. 469 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: I don't think they'll have the guts though, Todd, because 470 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 4: to me, it's a right now conversation, like it's right now. 471 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 4: You got to tell Lozardo's agent a month ago, like 472 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm actually not fooling around. I love you, I want you, 473 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 4: but if you jack me up twelve months from now 474 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 4: to the wall to say, like I might not sign 475 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: here because the Kis are coming call him for an 476 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 4: extra forty million, and I lose you, and I lost 477 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: Ranger the prior year, and by the way, I'm about 478 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 4: to the totally lose Wheeler, and Nola's a whole another 479 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: year older. And next thing, you know, my pitching staff 480 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 4: is Christopher Sanchez and Painter and that's it. That's how 481 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: you fall out of the playoffs. 482 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they traded able, Ruben. 483 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 4: Do you agree that something, Ruben? Do you agree that 484 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: that's something they probably would not have the guts to do. 485 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: Uh, I think that they would consider doing. I don't 486 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: think they're gonna use that ultimatum. I don't think that 487 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: they'll say, hey, you know, we're gonna trade it, because 488 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: I don't think the guy, he's already been traded twice, 489 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: two or three times, so I don't think he gives 490 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: a crap one way or another. 491 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: To be honest, he's. 492 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: Gonna believe it, knowing loves Arno, He's gonna believe in 493 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: himself and say, you know what, I'm gonna pitch my 494 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: ass off anyway, and I'm want to make a bunch 495 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: of money. That doesn't mean you cannot be proactive and 496 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: try to sign the guy prior to get in the spring. 497 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 4: Look, I'm just selling this ribbon. I'm not worried about 498 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: Lilizota pitching in twenty twenty six. I'm worried about losing 499 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: them after twenty two. Well, I understand that. I get it. 500 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: I like the idea of a good extension. I don't 501 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: think they have misgivings about Rangers long term is durability And. 502 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think because they've had him so long, Joe, No, 503 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: I think that they they know his warts. 504 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: So to speak. 505 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Other teams must just say, you know what, I'm okay 506 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: with him just throwing one hundred and sixty innings. I'm okay, 507 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: don't throw one hundred and fifty innings. 508 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: We'll deal with it. Well fair, But I'll tell you this, 509 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 4: his warts are not why they've ever lost in the postseason, no. 510 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: Doubt, Oh no, no. 511 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: And that's and that's what and that's what our man. 512 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: You know, Scott Morris is going to be pounded on. 513 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: He pounded on durability with season. 514 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna pound on that that quality with the with Ranger, 515 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: and that's why he's going to make so much glue yep. 516 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: I I'd be very surprised if they don't approach Bizardo 517 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: before opening down after they clear up the winter stuff. 518 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: It just seems like it would make sense based on 519 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the fact unless they feel like he's got a long 520 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: term issue with his health. But if they feel comfortable 521 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: with his health, I would assume that there'll be they're 522 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: smart enough to understand like how important he's gonna be 523 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: as part of the piece of the puzzle. 524 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: I hear you. 525 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm just differentiating the difference between before opening day and 526 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: right now. 527 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 528 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: Right, Joe, you were a man of that was that 529 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: was great. But I want to ask you about the book. 530 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: You're you're man. You're a man of many talents, as 531 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: we many talents. You you're you're fantastic on the radio. 532 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: You're an athlete. 533 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 4: Thank you, don't now down, Todd, Now you're all down, 534 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: keep going. 535 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: And now you're an author. 536 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: Quit it. 537 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: I mean you have a busy schedule. Yeah, why'd you 538 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: want to write this book? Tell us about this book? 539 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate the platform to talk about it as 540 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 4: I wanted to write the book because my nephew, who 541 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: at the time was about nine or ten years old 542 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: did not know who doctor J was. Wow, that was Jim. 543 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: That was outrageous. You know, this goes yeah, this goes 544 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: back to It hurt my heart. It stunned me. You know, 545 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: it was actually a fascinating exchange because we were talking. 546 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 4: This goes back over ten years ago. He's in his 547 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 4: twenties now, but we were we were in a conversation 548 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: about basketball, and I can't tell you I remember every aspect, 549 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 4: but I just know we were talking about multiple players 550 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 4: and we're moving fast and we're going back and forth 551 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: and I say doctor J. And I keep going and 552 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 4: I get a glazed look on his face, and you know, 553 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: I was like, whoa you? You don't know who doctor 554 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: J is? 555 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: Do you? 556 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: So? 557 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: You know? And of course he like when I say, 558 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: he literally didn't. I mean he know, like as an 559 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: actual doctor, why is there a doctor? Is it? Who 560 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: is it? Or what? What is a doctor? J? Made 561 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: me like what is it? I mean, don't even know 562 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: what it is. If you don't know, you don't know. 563 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 4: So it struck me. And then a couple of weeks later, 564 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: I was in my mom's basement and uh, I came 565 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: a us this tremendous book from the nineteen seventies. I 566 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: never know about it growing up, my older siblings would have. 567 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: And it was on the greatest athletes of the first 568 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 4: you know, seventy years of the twentieth century. And it 569 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 4: was a book primarily geared for younger fans. And so 570 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: this was Jim Thorpe and Jesse Owens and Babe and 571 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: Joe Dee and you know, Wilton, all these amazing figures. 572 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 4: And I thought, Wow, what a book. And each chapter 573 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: was kind of short and just said like, here's Jackie Robinson, 574 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 4: like boom here, you know, and then here's and you 575 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: moved to then here's Rocky Marciano. It's just boom, boom, boom. 576 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 4: And I thought, what a book. And then I remember 577 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 4: the conversation I'd had with my nephew, and I thought, 578 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: you know what, I think this is a book I 579 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: can actually write, you know, for Philadelphia sports and for 580 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: younger Philadelphia sports fans. So that that was the impetus 581 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 4: behind it, and you know, I ended up bringing it 582 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: into sixty six you know stories, thirteen on the on 583 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: the Phills, I think, thirteen or twelve on the Eagles, 584 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: and ten or eleven on the sixth and Flyers and 585 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: some other stuff like Joe Frazier and Kathy Rush and 586 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: you know Villanova's championships and Cheney and you know Saint 587 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 4: Joe's team from twenty years ago and all this great stuff. 588 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: And so the idea was, look, I encourage adults, certainly 589 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: certainly to consider purchase for yourself and for other adults. 590 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: I am convinced it'll totally work for adults, because it's 591 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: not the cat and the hat. It's written for ten 592 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: and up, but it's like a newspaper, Like a newspaper 593 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 4: can be read by a fourth grader, can be read 594 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: by a ninety year old. And so I wrote it 595 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: sort of in that sort of simple style, but one 596 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: that works for adults but really is primarily geared for 597 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: the younger folks, and say to them, this is who 598 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: Reggie White was, this is Mike Schmidt, this is the 599 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: ninety three pills, This is the sixty Eagles with Ben 600 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: and Erek by the way, this is the twenty twenty 601 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 4: four Eagles with Saquon, you know, right on through that championship, 602 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: and just say, this is this is our history. This 603 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: is the stuff we should be most proud of. And 604 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 4: that was that was the idea. 605 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm enjoying it. And you have all the essentials, 606 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: you know, all the essentials, and I like that you 607 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: kind of you mentioned the Jamier team, did you, Jeria 608 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Nelson team and Monet Davis totally. You have a few 609 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: smarty Jones, Yes, yeah, yeah, I like I like that 610 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: stuff so and I love a good human story. That's 611 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: really cool. Anecdote about this is a gift to your nephew, Well. 612 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that, Jim. And you know, I initially 613 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: called it a tribute to philadelph or Philly sports, a 614 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: tribute to Philly sports. And it's funny that the publisher 615 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: thought that word tribute might be a little high flutine, 616 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: you know, for a book that's geared to a younger folks. 617 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: And I thought, yeah, it makes sense. You're right. So 618 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: we settled on the best of Philly sports, which is 619 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 4: what it is. It's the best of Philly sports. And 620 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: I was really happy with how it came out. And yeah, 621 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: I would really just encourage the adults watching to consider 622 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: it not only for yourselves, but really if you have 623 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: kids or grandkids, nieces and nephews. I mean, it can 624 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: be read to a six year old. It can be 625 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 4: read by in nine or a ten year old. I 626 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: think it's totally wheel house for twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen 627 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: years old. I would have loved this book as a kid, 628 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: you know, reading about the exploits of the Total Package 629 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 4: back in the day. 630 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: So I just think the cool thing about it is 631 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: you're right, it's not Cat and the Hat, but it's 632 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: also brings you back and gives you I mean as 633 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: an adult, it gives you those memories again. Man, it 634 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: takes you back to that, to those spaces that you 635 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: really enjoyed and you loved about, you know, filled up 636 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: your sports it's you know some of these is like 637 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: some of the things that happened here with the various 638 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: teams or the reason why you became a filled up 639 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: your sports fan listen, I had to row up in 640 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: the city, so that that's a cool thing for me. 641 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Ruven, And I think you know, people 642 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: that are hardcore sports fans, you're going to know most 643 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: of it. Certainly, there's some things that you know maybe 644 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: you don't know even if you're a hardcore fan. I'll 645 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: give you a couple for instance, when the Eagles won 646 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl A couple of months ago, they find 647 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: tied the Philadelphia A's for the most championships in the 648 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: history of Philly sports in the in the four main leagues. 649 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: So the Flyers, UH, Sixers, and Phillies are all at 650 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: two championships. The A's had five and they haven't existed 651 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 4: for seventy something years, and the Eagles just tied them. 652 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: So the Eagles have tied the A's. That's a fact. 653 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: I'll give you another fact. A lot of people probably 654 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: don't know this. You know, many people would know about 655 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: Kathy Rous and Maculotta. But what they may not know 656 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: what was so big about that? That was the first 657 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: and this is something people should really be proud of. 658 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: That was the first three championships in college women's college 659 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: basketball history, you know, the first. And by the way, 660 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: if you said to the average if you say to 661 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: someone who doesn't really know that story, you know, do 662 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: you do you know that a team locally won the 663 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: first three women's college basketball national championships? Well they would 664 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: say no, and then they'd say, Okay, which Big five 665 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: school did it? And it wasn't. I mean it was 666 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 4: a Macilotta. They won three consecutive in the first three ever, 667 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: So just a lot of a lot of stuff that 668 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: hopefully people find interesting and entertaining and and all that 669 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: good stuff. 670 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 3: Give I'll give you. 671 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: I'll give you another one because a lot of this 672 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: I knew before writing it, But this one I did 673 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 4: not know. The Philadelphia Warriors first NBA champion ever. Did 674 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: you guys know that? No? I did not know that. Yeah, 675 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: for the first So it's a little convoluted because two 676 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: leagues actually came together merge. That's sort of an NBA 677 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: ABA thing and NFL AFL sort of thing. So there 678 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: were two different legs and they merged, and in the 679 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: in the way they merged, there was a an idea 680 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 4: of Okay, this this team from like a year or 681 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: two before that is the one that we're going to say, 682 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: this is when the NBA started, and that's the team 683 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: that won the first one. So, you know, just just 684 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: all sorts of stuff and to me, just points of pride. 685 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: And you know, whether it's the ninety one Eagles defense 686 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: or you know, the Phillies finally winning an a I 687 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 4: mean the ninety eighth year, the ninety eighth year it 688 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 4: took for the Phillies to win the World series, all 689 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: sorts of stuff like. 690 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: That, and it's basic. It's most basic though as an author, 691 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: is it is it cool to get that box of 692 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: books and open it up for the first time? 693 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: And what was that? 694 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: That's cool? Right? I mean, you know, you get you know, 695 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: you know it's cool. You know. Yeah, it's It's. 696 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: An amazing feeling, it really is. It's a great feeling. 697 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's you feel you feel proud that when 698 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: you hold that book and you finally hold it. Yeah, 699 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: it feels good. It feels really good. 700 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do you have any book signings coming up before 701 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: the holidays that you can tell us about. I don't know. 702 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: I know you've done some I do. 703 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I got to think of this all 704 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 4: the top of my head. I did an event last 705 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: night with Joe Conklin, Glenn and Ray So I will 706 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 4: be on Saturday at at the Wheelhouse in Wayne. So 707 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: it's really cool sports store right there in Lancaster Avenue. 708 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: Trying to rifle through this in top of my head. 709 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: It's hard to remember them all. But there's a variety 710 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: coming up, you know what I would say, So for 711 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 4: people interested, I would say a few things. One of 712 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: course is available on Amazon dot Com. Sure, it's also 713 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: available in Barnes and Noble. It's also available in a 714 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 4: lot of neighborhood stores. Now, frankly, I still want to 715 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: get it in more neighborhood stores. And really I want 716 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: to connect and I need to. I just it's a 717 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 4: matter of time. I need to connect with the stores 718 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 4: like Target and all these big stores cvs like these 719 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: are the kind of stores Frankly I want to get 720 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 4: in it, get it into because I think they're they're 721 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 4: really important type because you know, everybody goes into a pharmacy. 722 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: I mean everybody needs to, and so I want to 723 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 4: go into those kind of stores. And so I still 724 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: got to do some work. A lot of this will 725 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: go into twenty twenty six. The other thing I'd say 726 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 4: is if anyone watching wants to put together an event, 727 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: I'd be happy to be there. And also if anyone watching, 728 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 4: there's only you know, about two or so weeks left 729 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: before you know, the holidays are kind of like boxed up. 730 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: But you know, if you want to purchase it for 731 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 4: your employees, I can do that. I can sign them. 732 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 4: So if you buy it off Amazon, obviously I can't 733 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: sign them because they get shipped directly to you. But 734 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 4: you know, if you want to contact me, I can 735 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 4: sign in bulk. You know, if you have employees that 736 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 4: you might want to give it to them as a 737 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 4: honicare Christmas gift. I'd be happy to do that, and 738 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: I have an email set up for that, which is 739 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: Joe de camera Book at yahoo dot com. Joe decamera 740 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 4: book at yahoo dot com. Just hit me up and 741 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: I'll try to connect with as many people as I can. 742 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: That's awesome. There, it is, there, it is what I'm 743 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: really I'm looking for my next Jaws. Jaws already bought 744 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 4: about five hundred to donate the kids. I want one 745 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: of those people with all that money to say, hey, 746 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: let me let me donate them to somebody. Let me 747 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 4: let me donate them to this school I need. I 748 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 4: need some rich parent from a school to say, you 749 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: know what, I'm buying this or every kid in the school. 750 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for. Everyone listening right now, I'm 751 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 4: looking for someone who wants to buy it for schools. 752 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: All right, Somebody out there, did I plug it? 753 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: Well? 754 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: Is that you have no shame. 755 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna nobody. 756 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 4: But guys, it's all for the kids. That's right. 757 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh good, Jim, what do you got? You got something 758 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: you want to close with? 759 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 3: So, Joe, they call you the hammer, right yeah, because 760 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: you just hammer people in trivia. 761 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 4: Well, the actual uh beginning point forward was because I 762 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 4: was known for asking tough questions in press conferences. 763 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: That's w Yeah, Well we came up with a few 764 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: trivia questions for you. We know you just recently won 765 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: your three hundredth game. 766 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: Yes, that was a moment in time. 767 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 3: Don't forget he's at three oh one. He likes to say, well, 768 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: we're gonna beat you right here. I got a bunch 769 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: of them, and I know we go on along, So 770 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna whittle a couple down. But uh, I think the. 771 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 4: First answer is going to be Don Carmen. 772 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: Uh No. The first question is what was Scott Rowland's 773 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: walk up music? 774 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 4: I don't know? 775 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 3: Okay, what was it? Jim? Well you too, where the 776 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: Streets Have No Name? 777 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 778 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: I should have known that mine was a you two 779 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: song as well. How about what Philly which Phillies Wall 780 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: of Famer was born in Alaska? 781 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 4: Which Phillies Wall of Famer is born in Alaska? Boy, 782 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 4: you're killing me here, all right. Philly's Wall of Famer 783 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 4: born in Alaska? Wow, Jim, I mean, without having any clue, 784 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: I will go with, uh, Philly's Wall of Famer born 785 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 4: in Alaska. Let's go with that, Manny. Now, so that 786 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 4: can't be Manny. Let's go with Oh, what the heck, 787 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 4: let's go with Let's go with Steve Carlton. I have 788 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 4: no idea. 789 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 3: Kurt Schilling. 790 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't know Shill was Alaska. 791 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: I should have known that his dad was in the 792 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: Middlitary top them. 793 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't feel shame with having missed these. I 794 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: just went the world. 795 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna kind up there, Okay. Who who 796 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 3: did Ruben Amaro Junior beat out for the final roster 797 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: spot coming out of spring training in nineteen ninety seven? 798 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: Wow? Well, I will make a point before answering that 799 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: to say, Tony Longmire beat him out of ninety three 800 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 4: for the playoffs. And it's still a travesty. Yes, and 801 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 4: no offense meant to Tony. But Ruben deserved to be 802 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 4: on that team and it would have helped the squad 803 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: if he was appreciate that. I mean it, I mean it. 804 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 4: So who did Ruben beat out for the final spot 805 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 4: in ninety seven. I'm going to say Lenny Tony Baron 806 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 4: barn Well Tony Barron in nineteen ninety six made the 807 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 4: best defense seven or was it ninety seven or ninety six? 808 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: Ninety seven? Not catch ninety seven made that catch that 809 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 4: was incredible. So ninety seven, by the way, is when 810 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 4: Lenny that was it, right? That was when he, like 811 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 4: that retired. I think he officially retired. Maybe that spring training, 812 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 4: wasn't it that spring training? Next one? 813 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: I think ninety eight, I can't remember. Is in there 814 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 3: some way? It was quite a spring they had acquired 815 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 3: uh Glanville and yeah, I was trying to make a 816 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: comeback and it was interesting. Ninety seven or ninety eight. 817 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 4: Jim would you say that Lenny and and Doug Lanville 818 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 4: have different personalities? 819 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: I believe it. You should be able to get this one. Uh, 820 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 3: I mean, who was the Phillies all time leader in triples? 821 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 4: Well, don't know with the first two names that come 822 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 4: through my mind are Richie or Jimmy, So I will 823 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: go with probably played comparable years, but Jimmy might have 824 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 4: played a little longer. I'm gonna go with Jimmy. 825 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: Robbins Ed Delahanty, Jimmy, Wow, all right, Todd gave me 826 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: this one. This is a good one. It's a good one. 827 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: I like this one. 828 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: This is now getting shameful, bro, These are not easy. 829 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: Oh, nine to fifteen, right, Todd? 830 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, from two thousand and nine to twenty fifteen, which 831 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: was Rubens's entire run as Phillies general manager. 832 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 3: Right, So Cole ham alost led the Phillies and innings 833 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: pitched during that span. Who was second? 834 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I know that one, you know, Oh, I know 835 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: it all right. 836 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 4: You won't believe it now, I get it. I already 837 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: I already discounted Cliff Lee and others thinking that's it's 838 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 4: not Cliff Lee and Holliday because I don't think you 839 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 4: would ask that if is that obvious. So it's a 840 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 4: little bit under the radar. Kendrick would not be that person, 841 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 4: Blanton would not be that person. So it's going to 842 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: be someone more on the back end. So someone that 843 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 4: just was kind of kicking around there. This is really 844 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: going to be nine to fifteen. So I'm trying to 845 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 4: think who was on thirteen and fourteen and fifteen. I 846 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: know that Hellickson started a couple opening days, But I 847 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 4: don't think it's him, so I'm gonna try to have 848 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 4: you did have him? Yeah, yeah, I thought it was 849 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 4: because it was after Coal. He would have started opening 850 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 4: days after Cole. For the purpose of time, I will 851 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 4: simply say that I honestly don't know who is it. 852 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: Jim. 853 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 4: He said his name, Yeah, which one, Kyle Ken, Kyle Kendrick. 854 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 4: He was around that long. 855 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, two more, It's just two more. 856 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Japan, Ruben, What the hell is any think we 857 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: are crushing the hammer? 858 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: By the way, all right, going back in time. 859 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, Jim, just for the record, just 860 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 4: so you know, every trivia question ever asked goes back 861 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 4: in time. 862 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 3: It doesn't true, true, true, This is gonna go way 863 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 3: back compared to the other ones. 864 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 4: You guys like that one. I kind of got. Yeah, good, 865 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 4: which otherwise it's called a prediction. But go. 866 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 3: Which position player led the nineteen sixty one phillies in 867 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 3: innings played? 868 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 4: Which position player led the sixty one phillies and innings played? 869 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 4: I mean, you're just killing me here. So Richie was 870 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 4: on the sixty two match and that was his last year, 871 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 4: and before that the Cubs, so it can't be him, 872 00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm gonna say he maybe was there 873 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 4: at that point, Ruben Lamar senr. There we go. 874 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna end on that one. You're gonna end on 875 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 3: right there past. Now, that's a great one. 876 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 4: And that was a tough man. 877 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 2: Those are those are some deep dives. 878 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: And last it was a good one. 879 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 4: Joe, Well, it was deductive reasoning. You know, hey, guys, 880 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 4: I love your show and I appreciate you, you know, 881 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 4: having me on the program. 882 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 2: Joe Man, they go out and everything hit the book 883 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: The Best of Philly Sports by Joe Decamera, and all 884 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 2: of your favorite bookstores and shops around the area. And 885 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 2: again go go check out Joe's books. Its great holiday 886 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: gift books, great great holiday gifts and this and this 887 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 2: is a great book for the holiday. 888 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. And final thing, I'll just say again, 889 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 4: the easiest way is Amazon dot Com. I mean that's 890 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: you know, that's the the super easy. And I wish 891 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 4: I could plug every local store. It's just there's so many. 892 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 4: It's in rally houses. It's an all sorts of stores. 893 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 4: Shout out to Abington Pharmacy and Abington and Least Hoogie 894 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 4: House and Abington and Roman Delights and Addington, all these 895 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 4: great stores, but Amazon dot com is the you know, 896 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 4: the simplest speak and also Barnes and Noble over the holidays. 897 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: So absolutely, Joe, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. 898 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 4: Man, thanks for being with us, Joe. 899 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: Thanks again to Joe Decamera for the time. That was 900 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. 901 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: Jim. 902 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 2: You crushed him on trivia, David. I think he's gonna 903 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: come after He's gonna be coming after you on the 904 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: radio now, so be ready. The gloves are off, Jim. 905 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: But all right, guys, winter meetings are next week. Like 906 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: we said in Orlando, Florida, we are gonna be coming 907 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: at you all next week talking about what's going on 908 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: at the Winter Meetings. So make sure you check out 909 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: the Phillies Show next week. I'll see you guys next. 910 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: Week and will smell your line of boys you Jim. 911 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 912 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: Territory Network. 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