1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: When you got the job, O Joe, and our nightcab 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: was talking about it and I said some comments and 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: it were viral. I said that, you know, hey, O Joe, 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: she she nice. She nice. So if I offended you, 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: I want to take the time out to say I apologized. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: I did. That was not my intent. I didn't and 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: I don't ever want someone to feel uncomfortable with my 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: comments now. So that's why I wanted to take the 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: time to say, yes, I apologize for what I say. 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's okay. And that means you got some 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: good eyes on you. 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: That's what's all that. Man. You know, I ain't nothing 13 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: with it. 14 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifights, hustle, p Price, want. 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: To Slice, Got the Brons, Swash all my life, Poppy 16 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: grinding all my life, All my life, grinning all my. 17 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Life, sacrifights, hustle, peg the Price, want to Slice, Got 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: the Bronic, Diys the Swash, all my life, Poppy, grinding 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: all my life. 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprid of 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Club Sha Shak and today we're at Spotlight La stopping 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: by for conversation on the drink Today, She's made a 24 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: name for herself on the comedy circuit, spreading laughter both 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: online and off. She quickly became one of the biggest 26 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: rising stars in the industry, performing the soul that shows 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: nationwide and true force to be reckon with in the 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: world of entertainment. An underniable staple in the digital age, 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: a prominent, influential and outspoken social media star, a popular personality, 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: an actress, a entertainer, content creator, savage businesswoman, and a 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: loving mother. A fearless and a fearless co host of 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the insanely popular, award winning syndicated morning talk show The 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. She's just with the mess, but her news 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: is real. Here she is, lady and gentlemen, the one 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: and only, very funny, just hilarious. 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Thank you you better run it down. 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: I like that. You like that. I like that I 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: tell people when they come on the show. I don't 39 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: give people what they deserve. I give them what they earn. 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: And everything that was written on this card you've earned. 41 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: So congratulations, Thank you so much. I don't know if 42 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: you drink it now. 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: I drink I did one, Dad, But what is this 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: what we got here. 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: This is my Kangyak. It's an award winning kanya. We 46 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: won a simple ward in twenty twenty two, which means 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: a blind taste test. We line up cups and all 48 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: the other konjacts and people say, you know, we like hey, 49 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: So we beat all the proper we don't have to 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: name it, but you know, the Kangnact and we beat 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: them in a taste test. So I want to taste. 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: I want to toast you. I think it's been about 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: a year since you've been the co host. 54 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Of the Yeah, it has been a year. 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: And welcome your second child. Yes, so for a loving 56 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: mother and everything that you've accomplished and will continue to coomplish. 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Thank you know. You know I'm gonna tell you the 58 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: truth is this is good. I'm gonna let you know 59 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: because I don't care how many woods it one go. 60 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care. It's all about taste. 61 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: All right, it's smooth. It's smooth. As I was ready 62 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: to be explaining, I want to change the formula, all right, 63 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: but no. 64 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: It's good. We thank you very much, thank you for 65 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: stopping by Club shay Shape Yep, Baltimore, born to raids 66 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: barn and Raids. Yes, y'all got an accent, dude, I mean, 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: what's we do? I mean, you know, I'm a will 68 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: South Georgia. People bag on me. I've had a glow 69 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: on and you know, brother, yes, but let me ask 70 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: you this, yess. How important is it for you to 71 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: embrace how you talk, the way you dress, the way 72 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: you sound. How important is that for you to embrace 73 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: who you are, to remain authentic to who you are? 74 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it keeps me relatable. And you know that's 75 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: how I got to where I am, being unapological, unapologetically me. 76 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: You know, yes, we do have a strong accent. Do 77 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: you to do to too? We see hot dog instead 78 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: of hot dog? What you doing all that? 79 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? 80 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: You know people love as much fun as people make 81 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: about the accent. They love it everywhere I go. They 82 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: like to hear me say things and everything like that. 83 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: But the Baltimore will never die me. You know, I've 84 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: lived in LA I've lived in Atlanta, I've lived in 85 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: New Jersey, New York, but you know, Baltimore will never die. 86 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: You know, I gotta stay grounded. 87 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: When I first got into the media space, I got 88 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: on television. I went to all these people to try 89 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: to change my dialect because I talk with a heavy 90 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: colloquial dialect building from rural South Georgia. But once I 91 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: realized that that's not who I am, I needed to embrace. 92 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: And then once I really like heard Charles Barkley, I 93 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: was like, man, charles accent is worse than mine, for 94 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: he for leaves Alabama. And once I embraced who I was, 95 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: people embraced who I was. You think that's that's that's 96 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: of the utmost because if you lose who you are, 97 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: that's your identity. Just talking to dude and the dog, 98 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: that's who you are. And if you lose sight of that, 99 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: you kind of lose who lose sight of who you 100 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: actually are? 101 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, now when I go to Baltimore, I get a 102 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: little bit more Baltimore. 103 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I am outside of. 104 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 2: Baltimore, but it will never completely die with in my dialect. 105 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: No, I won't. Uh. Who has the thicker accents Memphis 106 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: of Baltimore. 107 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: MEMPHISOD Memphis money bag yo, Oh my god, NL Chop 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: I think NL Chopper He he don't sound as Memphis 109 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: as the rest of them. He don't, he don't. So 110 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: that's the one that comes He's one of the ones 111 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: that don't really get to Memphis. But Glove, Oh my god. 112 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'd be like, what she saying, But that's my baby. 113 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: I love her and she she quits said you country, 114 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: I like lot really limit all the famous people from Baltimore, 115 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: Jada Pickettshan Rock, Monique Carmelo, Mario Cisco, Giovanni, Davis Phelps, 116 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth, Thurgod Marshall, Billy Holiday, Montell Williams. What what 117 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: are some of the what do you think? What is 118 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: it about Baltimore? And and and that so many of 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: these people were able to leave Baltimore and become what 120 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: we know them marked as today we're tellings it. You know. 121 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: It's We're like diamond in a rough city, you know 122 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: what I mean. We it's a lot of the we're 123 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: overlooked a lot because we're known as you know. 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: You're not d C. 125 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know where and then people only know 126 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: us for The Wire, right, you know, which is still 127 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: one of my favorite TV shows of all time. I'm 128 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: telling you not power, not touching Wire, the Wire. We 129 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: who else would being. 130 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Gonna come for us? Now? Woa me and you come 131 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: he gonna get because here gonna get mad at me because 132 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I allow you to say it on this flatform. He 133 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: gonna come for you because you gonna say the power 134 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: is not touching the wire. 135 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: Oh well, I said it before and I said again fifty. 136 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: He could try to redo the wire and cast me 137 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: if you want to. But other than that, the wire 138 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: is his favorite damn show. 139 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Monique gave you some love. How did 140 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: that make you feel with Monique? Because Monique is Monique? 141 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Before you answer that it's Monique misunderstood. What do people 142 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: get wrong? Because I'm thinking that you have kind of 143 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: a better relationship with her than most What do people 144 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: get wrong about mo Man? Listen? 145 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: That is a hard working woman. That's somebody that paved 146 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: the way for all of Baltimore, not even just on 147 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: a comedy sense. Like she she's unapologetically her yes right 148 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: and yeah, and when she's done wrong, you're you're gonna 149 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: hit it and you're gonna hear about it. 150 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: She ain't let nothing slade until. 151 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: You make it right with her. Yes, that's the because 152 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: when you make it right, she Yep, she's a loving person, 153 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like and she uplifts me 154 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: every chance she get listened. I remember I opened up 155 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: for her one time, right and when I opened up 156 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: for her, I wasn't I wasn't going through anything or 157 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: anything like that. And that woman hugged me right before 158 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: she went on stage because I opened up for it. 159 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: She hugged me and I just cried like it was 160 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: like it's one of them hugs that I got you. 161 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm here for you. You're doing great. Keep doing what 162 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: you're doing f the naysayers, and you know what I mean. So, yeah, 163 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: she is misunderstood, but she's also been done wrong too, 164 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: and she's also understood. But I think a lot of 165 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: a lot of what she's been through has been neglected 166 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: by those who caused that harm to her, and she 167 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: just wants she just wants to make it right like 168 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: she wanted them to make it right. She shouldn't have 169 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: had to go through go to this platform and go 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: to this extreme and go to that extreme to hear 171 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: to be heard about things that that. You know, she's 172 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: felt that she's been slighted a lot. 173 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Why did just that? When you think when people do 174 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: you wrong, the first thing they say, move on, get 175 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: over it. Do you notice that? Yeah? Yeah, why do 176 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: you think that is why can't people just in break Like, bro, 177 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: if I say you, this is what you've done, Okay, 178 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: just acknowledge, don't tell me I need to get over it. Yeah, 179 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: you need to apologize. Yeah? Why is it so hard 180 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: for people to apologize? 181 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Because it's not done to them? You know what I mean? Like, 182 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: if it's not done to you, you don't really feel 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: it unless you're done wrong. You know what I'm saying. 184 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: And I've been done wrong as well, you know, And 185 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: sometimes I let it roll off my back, you know, 186 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: and sometimes nah, you're gonna pay for that, you know, 187 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: depending on depending on what you did, Okay, you know 188 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: what I mean, and depending on if I want to 189 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: move on from it or not, because everything don't deserve 190 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, your time and energy to go back and 191 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: forth with it, you know. But some things like nah, 192 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna feel what you did to me, right, you know. 193 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Grew up in Baltimore, two parent household. 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: How was that amazing? Really amazing? My parents they were 195 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: married up until a few years ago. But me and 196 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: my brother Kevin, we got to grow up in a 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: loving household. Our dad worked, our mom worked as well, 198 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: like both of them worked, and they gave us what 199 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: they could. We grew up in West West Baltimore City, 200 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, Emerson Avenue, West Baltimore, and they were able 201 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: to give us what they didn't have, you know what 202 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: I mean. 203 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: So is it whether the situation where they strict, where 204 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: they disciplinariums. 205 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: One was strict, one was the disciplinarian, and one was lenient. 206 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: My mom, she's deacon of the church. I'm telling you, 207 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: we was raised in church. 208 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: You can go to church. 209 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, you know. And then my dad, 210 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: on the other hand, Nah, that was that he was 211 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: the DJ. He's the one that taught me all the music. 212 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: I know, I have such a wide variety of music 213 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: that I listened to, you know. And then he's where 214 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: I get my funny from. Like my dad is like 215 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: the comic of the family. But yeah's two different, but 216 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: it's balanced, right, balance. 217 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: That's boy. You talk about here and here the two deeds, 218 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: one of a DCA, the others a DJ. Yeah. 219 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, my dad was a marine. He went to 220 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: the Marines, and he and my mom met in high school, okay, 221 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: and he married her right out of high school, you know, 222 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: right before he went to the Marines, and they've just 223 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: been together they you know, and I think they got 224 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: married so young they didn't really get to live the 225 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: single life and to date and see what's out there. 226 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: My mom has always been like just a one man 227 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: woman and just a lover. And my dad he didn't 228 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: get to live out that bachelor life. And so that's 229 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: what kind of like to tear theage, you know, later 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: later later. 231 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking back on that, how important do you think 232 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: that was? To have two parents and to have a 233 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: loving environment to let you know if and when you 234 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: decided to get mad. We'll get into that little later 235 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: and you decide to have kids. What was important, man? 236 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: Just to struck sure of my household. You know, no 237 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: household is perfect, No two parents are perfect. 238 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 239 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: I had the perfect balance, but still there were things 240 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: that you know that every household has to endure, you know. 241 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: But as both of my parents relate to me today, 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: I am happy that they instilled in me like how 243 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: to raise my children. Okay, you know what I mean. 244 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: They never let us see certain things growing up, like 245 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: when dad was broken he you know, we never knew 246 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: that until I got older and he set us down 247 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: and talked to us. When y'all had the latest tennis shoes, 248 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: and y'all was you know, and they made us earn everything. 249 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: But when y'all were walking around looking good and everything, nah, 250 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: my bank account was low. 251 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: You know. 252 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: These are conversations that my parents wait until my brother 253 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: and I were grown to have, you know. And then 254 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: my mom opened up to me about her being unhappy 255 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: you know, the last what ten no eight years of 256 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: the marriage, you know what I mean. The infidelity played 257 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: a part in it. And then how my dad just 258 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: he didn't want to leave because he's still that was 259 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: the love of his life. He just still didn't get 260 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: to fulfill that, you know, dating and they got when 261 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: you get married young and so many of high school 262 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: eighteen nights, Yes, you stay together until you in your 263 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: fifties and sixty y you want to see what bbl's 264 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: out Okay with this? This is okay, cool, this is nice? 265 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: All right, bitches, can body at just it's okay. You know, 266 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: it's a lot of new things. 267 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Did your parents Did you see your parents argue? Did 268 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: they argue in front of you? No? 269 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: Never, I've never seen my parents argue ever with each other. 270 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: No, I did not. So in other words, and I 271 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: heard I read this quote. They say, what you crave 272 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: as a child, you overcompensate as a parent. 273 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Now, my son have seen me and his father go 274 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: at it. My son has seen his father up. I 275 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie. 276 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: I done got into it physical with the dad man. 277 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Me and Rome. That's my son's father. My son's name, yep, 278 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: my oldest child, Ash, and he's twelve. Now. His dad's 279 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: name is Rome. And me and Rome haven't been through it. 280 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: We have been through it, but we are really really 281 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: good friends and family today. But yeah, yeah, I ain't. 282 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: I ain't take that that. 283 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: That rule left that part. 284 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: I very much. I did. I left it out. 285 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: You went to a I mean Baltimore. Yeah, we went 286 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: to a predominantly white high school. 287 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: I did. 288 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: How was that? It was scary at first year. 289 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: I ain't even gonna lie. My mother had pulled me 290 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: away from Baltimore City public schools and was like, no, 291 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: I want better for my child. And and you know, 292 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: my dad was on board. My dad was like ah, 293 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: he he was kind of going back and forth with it, 294 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: like I don't want to just pull her from what 295 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: she knows. She got her friends here, she's into sports here, 296 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: she's doing things. She has her life here. I don't 297 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: know if we should, but at the end of the day, 298 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: they did. They were making a great decision, and I'm 299 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: glad that my mom did that. I'm glad that my 300 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: dad went on ahead with it because a lot of 301 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: things I learned, you know, I'm well rounded because of that. 302 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: It was scary at first. I was acting like they 303 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: was being racist and they wasn't. I was like, somebody 304 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: just called me and my mom was like, no, they didn't. 305 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: I was like, are you right? But I they want 306 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: to go to school. Oh, they don't know how to dance. 307 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: Everybody wanted me to teach them how to dance. And 308 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: then y'all became one of the most popular kids in 309 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: the high school I was at that time because it 310 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: was your Pennsylvania. At that time, it was only I 311 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: think I was like one out of twelve black students 312 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: in the school. The school had about I don't know, 313 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: I would say ten thousand kids. Yeah, it was like 314 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: the size of a university, like a college. Yeah, and 315 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: it was a middle high school. So Dallastown Area Dallastown 316 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: Area High School. It was in a Pennsylvania and it 317 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: was scary at first, but I'm glad that I stayed. 318 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: It's funny that you said that, because my daughter's mom 319 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: had the opposite. She was at a private school that 320 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: was predominantly white, and she pulled her out because she said, 321 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: that's not reality. She said, You're not going to be 322 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: in a predominant area at any point in time in 323 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: your life, so you need to be more around it 324 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: and be around people that look like you and have 325 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: different ethnicism and so forth and so on. So she 326 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: did the. 327 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: Opposite, and I totally understand that. 328 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: But I did see. I did see on ig what 329 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: this young black female said that a black should not 330 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: go to a predominantly white because you could lose sight 331 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: of yourself. 332 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Hmmm, something I've never done. I've never done that, I'm 333 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: telling you. I like I said, you know, I was. 334 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: I was afraid at first, because, yeah, I came from 335 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Baltimore City public schools. Everybody I saw look like me, 336 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, little ponytail on the side, you know what 337 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Nobody comb in the back of their head, 338 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: so the buckshots is bugging. 339 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 340 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: But then I go up there. Everybody got long, straight head, 341 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: blue eyes, and I'm just like, Okay, this is what 342 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: it is, you know. But it was like the opposite 343 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: of what you know, you just brought up Like I 344 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: had already seen and been around black people for so 345 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: long and people who look like me and Baltimore, and 346 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: it was good for them to pick me up and 347 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: drop me in a place that was foreign to me, 348 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: you know, because then I learned other cultures, yeah I'm saying. 349 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: And then I also learned what being the minority felt like. 350 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: You know. 351 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: I learned, you know, what controlled racism was. I learned 352 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: with somebody trying to be smart, they can't directly because yeah, 353 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: because they know they get they knocked out. But so 354 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: and so so I okay, yeah, this is what y'all doing, 355 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: all right, I got you, so you know, it was great. 356 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: Then I also made some of like I met some 357 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: of the greatest people that I've known since then up there. 358 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: So I think my parents for that. 359 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Did you get in any fights they call you named? Hell? 360 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: No, not to my face. No, No, I listen, I 361 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie. Going to high school white kids, That's 362 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: how I got into drugs and all of that. I 363 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: smoked my first blunt up there. I did my first 364 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: shroom up there, y'all. Yeah, bonfires and all of that. 365 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: So they so how did this? So how did this happen? 366 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, what y'all doing tonight? What y'all getting 367 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: into tonight? You're like, okay, we're gonna do this, YadA, YadA, YadA. 368 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, cool. They were. 369 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: They were inviting me for a long time, like, yo, 370 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: you want to come to this bonfire? 371 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Dude, like it's gonna be great, like so cool. 372 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like okay, yeah, And I'm like, all right, cool. 373 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: I see what Because you know, I'm from Baltimore. You 374 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: ain't no bonfires down You see a fire is somebody house, 375 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just it's not a bonfire. 376 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: So I go and I see them rolling up weed. 377 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I had never smoked weed, tried 378 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: weed in my life until tenth grade in high school. 379 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: I'm like, let me, let me see. I'm like, what 380 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: y'all putting it? Because I know white people lace they stuff, 381 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: you know what i mean. So I'm like, let me 382 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: see it, cause you know, I see little substances being 383 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: poured on top of the blunt, you know, I'm me 384 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: poured in it, and I'm like, give me a regular blunt, 385 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: you know. 386 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: I it's cool. 387 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm hungry, I'm feeling a little funny, you know, And 388 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: so I start telling jokes and stuff. But then I 389 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: see people are tripping off of other things, and I'm like, 390 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: what's that. Oh, yeah, well that person, you know, Carlos, 391 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: has just had some acid over there. You know. I'm like, yeah, 392 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: I ain't. I don't want that. 393 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: Nah. 394 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: Then you know you got pills over here. I'm telling you. 395 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: These kids had everything except for their parents there all 396 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: the time. That's what set them aside from me. That's 397 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: when I started connecting with my friends on a different 398 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: level because they would see how my parents were there. 399 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: They would come home every night. They would tell me 400 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: they loved me. They would tell me, you know, because 401 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: I would have my friends over to me. And I 402 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: remember one of my friends saying, her name is Tillia. 403 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: She's like, you and your mom tell you to tell 404 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: each other that you love each other like all the time. 405 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you and your mom don't She's like, no, 406 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: not really, Like I don't really see my mom. And 407 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: that was the case for a lot of them. A 408 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: lot of their parents. They own big corporations and worked 409 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: for big companies. They traveled all the time. They would 410 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: just get them kids money, you know, and that's what 411 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: that's how they would get into drugs. And everybody had 412 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: a car and everything, but they would get into drugs. 413 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: And they didn't really feel that love that they saw 414 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 2: between my parents and I. So I connected with them. 415 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: So you think they had so the next So, would 416 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: you have tried your let's just say, for the sake 417 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: of argument, you stayed in Baltimore Public school, do you 418 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: believe would have tried drugs, would have experimented like you did. 419 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I definitely would have tried weed. 420 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: I mean, my big brother smoked weed and he started 421 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: smoking weed and he was maybe twelve years old, and yeah, 422 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: so I would have tried that, but I probably wouldn't 423 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: have got on the shrooms. I probably wouldn't have started 424 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: with psychedelics at all. But yeah, I do psychedelics something 425 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: different though. I do it for clarity. 426 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: It's not just what was that you said, did or 427 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: do I do? I do? 428 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: That's present currently, yes, right now today, damn yeah. 429 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean what I mean, you try to see the future, 430 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: what's going on? Look, you can. 431 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: It depends on how many shrooms you consume. You you 432 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: might be looking into the future with somebody else's future, but. 433 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: You be up there. So when you do you by yourself. 434 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: Not all the time. I do strims with my my 435 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: sister and my fiance. 436 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, so I mean so so so what so 437 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: what did they actually do? They free your mind? Is it? 438 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Like all? 439 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: It's something like see see y'all also got hooked on 440 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: adderall in high school as well because I couldn't focus 441 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 2: and I needed that to focus. 442 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: You know. 443 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: It's a lot going on. So it's very different from 444 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: from that. Like so shrooms, it's not really a high. 445 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: You don't feel like a high. It's like it's enlightenment, 446 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: you know you and you feel open and you can 447 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: go you can tap no, if you're scared. If you're 448 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: a person who overthinks a lot, I would not recommend 449 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 2: them for you, you know what I mean, because you 450 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: can go crazy. See yeah, if you're doing all of that, 451 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: like like smoking and a pission, you ain't. 452 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: You better not be. I ain't doing no shrims. You shaying. 453 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's it's good. 454 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: I still do it. Yes, you had a friend overdose though, right, I. 455 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: Did, I did, But that was not from shroom, No, absolutely, 456 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: because he was so young, you know, he was very 457 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: very young, and it was one of a few kids 458 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: that actually but this one was my friend. Yeah, he 459 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: had overdosed. I forget what the drug was it was. 460 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: It wasn't shrims though, it was. It was something I 461 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: think it was like assalts or something like that. And 462 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: oh yeah, it was messing them up. 463 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: Man. So you had some crazy jobs coming up well, 464 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: but hard funeral director? Yes, yes, no, So that's the thing. 465 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: That's what I want. That's what I thought. 466 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to be here, you know what I mean, 467 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: because I went I went to college and did a semester, 468 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: just just a semester. I thought I want. I thought 469 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: I really wanted to get into like being a mortician, right, 470 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, because every job before that, Shanon, I swear, 471 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: everybody was getting me fired, everybody, you know. And so 472 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, you, I work with dead people. Can't nobody 473 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: wake up and be like, oh she did you know? 474 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: Because they did well? But yes, I was damn you 475 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: got you. But I ain't stealing from the people that 476 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: was snitching you gotta mind your business. 477 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Listen. 478 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: If I'm working at a company, right and I'm stealing 479 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: the money, and you see me and it ain't you 480 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: a company, come and try to get money with me, 481 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: don't don't go. Oh she she's a stealing boss. 482 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: So you want to be the favorite, you know what 483 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean? 484 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: And you that ain't gonna get you, no, rais that 485 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: ain't gonna get no bonus for you. You could have 486 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: been getting money with me on the side. 487 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: So in other words, would you steal? You gonna steal 488 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: money from your dead people to get coming with money 489 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: in the person in the pocket, you know. 490 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: But that was the very lucative business to be in. 491 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: People ain't never gonna stop ying, No, they're not. So 492 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: I was going out planned to stop stealing and making 493 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: money the right way with the dead people. 494 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: So, uh so you wanted to go to study mortuary. 495 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: Science, Yes, which I did for a semester, and I 496 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: got scared because the clinicals, Yo, they listen, and I'm 497 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: not gonna say I wasn't paying assision in class, you know. 498 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: But in balming, fluid works very funny if you put 499 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: too much into it, you know, limbs can lift up 500 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 2: the gas can leave the body after your well. 501 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Yes, they set up. 502 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: And that had happened, and that was the last time 503 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: people saw me. 504 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: That was it. That's that's it. 505 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: I said that thought y'all was dad, and you know, 506 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: so I was scared and I said I can't do it. 507 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I had a buddy of mine his 508 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: father on the funeral service, and it's like, man, damn, 509 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: people can't hurt you. I said, yeah, but they can 510 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: make you hurt yourself. You start, somebody set up and 511 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: there y'all need you. When you do straightening their hand stuff. 512 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: You damn into the wall. 513 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. 514 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: So that's it. 515 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Social media? What made you start? What made you get 516 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: on social media? Wow? 517 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: I used to watch Maury a lot right horror. Yes, 518 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: I used to watch Mary Povish right, even when I 519 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to be watching that. Man, I was watching it, right, 520 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: And that was the very first skit that I did. 521 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: I liked. 522 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: I liked to do parodies back then, right, and so 523 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: I remade that the who's the father? I was acting 524 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: like I was the guy, and how they would have 525 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: the confessionals I'm not the father and they would have 526 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: these like different angles, like it would be an angle 527 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: down looking up at the guy, and then it was 528 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: just funny. So I remade that, and that skit took 529 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: off right and then I'm like, well, damn, this person 530 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: reposted it. Then this posted it in this verse. I said, 531 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: I can I can do this. So I just kept 532 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: doing videos. And this was back when videos were only 533 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: fifteen seconds on Instagram. So I'm like, all right, I 534 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: got to make people laugh in fifteen seconds, let me 535 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: do it. So I just made a series of skits 536 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: that went viral, and that's it just took off from there. 537 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: Did you were you afraid to upload them? 538 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Some of them only because I was afraid that people 539 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: would steal the idea, not whether or not people would 540 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: think it's funny. I've always been funny more life, you know, 541 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: but were always even I'm there with the white people. 542 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: That's how I got put out. Half the time. 543 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: I was like, y'all put people y'all white, y'all still 544 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: put people out of class. I thought that was only 545 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: a black stud but they're like, no, out of here. No, 546 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: you're trying to make everybody laugh. So yeah, but that's 547 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: that's how that happened. 548 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I wanted that touch on this I've slipped on my mind. 549 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: When you stealing, you go to jail and stealing, did 550 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: they put you in jail? 551 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: I did go to jail once, not forever stealing from 552 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: any of my jobs. I was at this modeling agency 553 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: and I had stole from this one woman. 554 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: Damn, Jeff. 555 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Well now you can't. 556 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm reformed now you know. So now people steal from me. 557 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: I was spoken them so but look I was. 558 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I did. 559 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: I stole from the director and then I stole money? 560 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: Well yeah, but this is the thing, this the thing, 561 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: all right. The assistant that I stole from, she had 562 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: a nerve to take me to court too, but she 563 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: ain't had nothing nor called. I'm like, I didn't even 564 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: get nothing off. I could even order a piece off 565 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: your calling, lady, Why are you up here standing in 566 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: front of the jyo. And she also stole from me. Oh, 567 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: I didn't get nothing, so I shouldn't be tried for this. 568 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: But the other lady is she had some she had 569 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: some big bucks and so yeah, you something. 570 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Jess. I think you were of 571 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: them people job to give them? 572 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: No, it was a modeling agency and they was lying 573 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: the people, taking all their goddamn money, telling us that 574 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: we can be Tyra Banks and Naomi Campbell Campbell and 575 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: we couldn't be. Why would you tell me that I 576 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: ain't even tall enough? You know what I mean? 577 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: And I really was going with this. 578 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: It was people shorter than me, and you know, it 579 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: was people on the bigger side that they knew, well, 580 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: you can, but not back then. Ashley Stewart's the Lane 581 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: Bryant and all the people. 582 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what. 583 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you ain't come on now. Some of those 584 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: people in there, they was just taking people's money. 585 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: So you was Robin Hood. 586 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and I went back to collect for everybody. But 587 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: when it came time for me to give back everybody else, 588 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: everybody left. So I was like, shy, I might as 589 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: well keep all up for myself. So that's what That's 590 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: how that happened. 591 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. What was the first 592 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: video that went viral and you were hooked? Hmmm? 593 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: My first jests with the Mess? That was my first 594 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: jess with the Mess? 595 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: Uh. 596 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: I used to do just with the Mess on reality TV. 597 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: This is when love and hip hop first came out. 598 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: Love and hip hop Atlanta. No, it was New York 599 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: with Chrissy and Jim Jones and that I was, and 600 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 2: then me and A Peter Gunns and Tarau Tara and 601 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: all of them, and I started doing just with the 602 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: mess around reality TV, and then I started doing it 603 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: with like just industry things other things. 604 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: Is it true Nick followed you because you're one of 605 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 1: your videos. 606 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: I don't know why she unfollowed me, but I know 607 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: she had reposted me a few times listening to some 608 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: of her music that she dropped, and then unfollowed me. 609 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: I feel people and followed me though, but I don't 610 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: know the reason why. I don't be like wow. 611 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: But you know, you can't be going back and forth 612 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: with them barbs on social media? Do jo. 613 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 2: I don't go back and forth with them. They go 614 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: back and forth with themselves. 615 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh you don't, so you don't respond on social media. 616 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: You don't go back, not anymore. 617 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: But you haven't say you can't find a comment that 618 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't commented on in the sense what did I say? 619 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: I like last I think back in twenty twenty three, 620 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: I said I'm not gonna comment anymore. They don't deserve 621 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: for me to. 622 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: Keep because your nature is to come back. Yeah. Yeah, 623 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: it's very difficult. 624 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: That's why I don't read comments as often as I 625 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: used to because listen, just Jesse from a runaway Baltimore city. 626 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: She on an app. She'd get in your ass. And 627 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot things that you would say to 628 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 2: an MFO on the streets in Baltimore assists you can't 629 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: do it online. Don't do it online. It's not worth it. 630 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: It's not And at the end of the day, these 631 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: people don't know you, and it will never say this 632 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: to your face. So don't go what are we in 633 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: the comments for? 634 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: Why is it? People on social media they'll say something slick, 635 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: You get slick or back with them, and then they 636 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: cry big, oh my god, I can't believe you said that. 637 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: You talk to a woman like that, you know, she 638 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: talked to me first like that period. 639 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: And that's just what it is, you know what I mean. 640 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: And that's that's another thing growing up in Baltimore. That's 641 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: what it is. You if there's no rules to tell 642 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, you come at me. I come at you. 643 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: You can't tell me how. No, you can't say that 644 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: though it's like no, no, no, And I think we 645 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: live in a world now where sensitive and offended as 646 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: the new trend, you know. 647 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: So, yeah, there are a lot of social media stars. 648 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: You look at Daisy Banks, Drewski, Young Fly, Pretty VB, Simone, 649 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: this other guy. I'm sure you're going to talk about 650 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: him because he had something to say about you. It 651 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: wasn't bad though, you know what I'm talking about. Don't 652 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: you excluded that guy? Did you connect with you? Did 653 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: you see what they were doing? Like we damn they 654 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: doing this? I can do this? So how, I mean, 655 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: how did you even get started doing the uploading of 656 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: the videos? 657 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, the first person that I ever saw was DC 658 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: Young Fly. Okay, that is my brother that I know. 659 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: He called me the same thing. I'm his brother too, 660 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: That's what he said. But that's the only that's the 661 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: only guy I let play with me like that. By 662 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I don't let nobody 663 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: else call me the brother. I don't be playing around 664 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: like that. But but yeah, I started off seeing him 665 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: and you know, King Botch and like those people, and 666 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I actually didn't see any females. I 667 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: only saw him, and I was like, yo, that guy 668 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: is funny. Even though I couldn't understand everything he was saying, 669 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: because that George is different from your George. 670 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: You know. 671 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: I swear when I first met DC, I would just 672 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: listen and nod and laugh like I knew what he 673 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: was saying and couldn't understand. And then I would ask 674 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: Carl Litis Miller like do you know what he said? 675 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: And he'd be like, yeah, I know what he said. 676 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: Well them both for y'all country, but I'm not, so 677 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. But yeah, that's what made me feel like, hey, 678 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: I can do this too, you know, because I could 679 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: relate to DC. He was himself, always himself. 680 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, so what did any of the other guys 681 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: once you meet those met those people? Did y'all share information? 682 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: Did y'all share tips? Did y'all like, well, hey, let's 683 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: get this money together? Yeah? 684 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: I actually took b Simone and Pretty V and watch 685 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: Jazzy on their first tour. I did my first tour 686 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: and Nate I took them with me, so uh yeah, 687 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: that's how they got their start. And stand up well, 688 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: Pretty Big does a host of things. She pretty don't 689 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: like doing, no damn stand up. She is successful and 690 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: entertaining though, for sure, so yeah, she's more like a host. 691 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, how do you meet Country Wayne? 692 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: How did I meet Country Wayne? I know that's not 693 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: on your call. Let me see that damn over there. 694 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: How the hell did I meet him? 695 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: He a nice dude, though, Yeah, yeah, but I don't. 696 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't even remember how I met the fella. I don't. Damn, 697 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't sorry to that man. 698 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay, now, okay, yeah, I'm sorry. I don't know that man. 699 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sorry. I just don't know. 700 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember how I met him. 701 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: How old were you when you got on stage for 702 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: the first time? 703 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: Hmmm, I don't remember how old I was, but it 704 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: was twenty thirteen when I got on stage for the 705 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: first time. The first big stage I got on was 706 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. I opened up for Martin and I had 707 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: only been on stage two or three times. 708 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: Did you always want to do stand up? No? 709 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: The hell I did not. I didn't even know what 710 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: all of that consistent consisted of. Like I grew up watching, yes, 711 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: like Comic View, standing up Link with my dad when 712 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't posed to, and just watching Bruce Bruce and 713 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 2: you know, seeing a Dion Cole and seeing you know, 714 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: but I had never imagined that's what I would be doing. Yeah. 715 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: I just always was funny, humorous, comical, but I never 716 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: thought that I would be a stay. 717 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: So did you decide to do it? Or someone say, hey, 718 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: yes you should, you should try this? So did so? 719 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: How did you decide to go up on stage? 720 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: Listen? So my big brother does he He's not my 721 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: biological brother, but he is somebody who is a mentor 722 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: for me. He's also from Baltimore City, DOESSI Alexander. He's 723 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: been a feature on my tour since I first started. 724 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: This is the guy that people know when I'm coming. 725 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: He coming to him and another guy from Baltimore's name 726 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: is Cool and he's a promoter and he also works 727 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: for Nike now as well. They were doing open mics 728 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: and I would go all the time, and the local 729 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: comedy scene in Baltimore was it was just it was 730 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: funny and I just always wanted to go and be 731 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: a part of it, but not to get. 732 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Up on stage. 733 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: And one day they just pushed me up on stage 734 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: because I was already doing the skits and stuff, so 735 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 2: people already knew who I was locally, and then they 736 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: was like, you might as well try it. My brother's 737 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: like try it, and I'm like, ah, I don't know. 738 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: So then he calls my name. I go up there. 739 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the light was. 740 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: When they give you a light, that means all right, 741 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: your time is about to be up, times dwindling down. 742 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: I thought they was taking pictures. 743 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: I was up. 744 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: I supposed to have been up there for ten minutes, 745 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean five minutes. It went from five to ten 746 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: to fifteen. And then the DJ dropped the music and 747 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, well damn, and they like no, because you 748 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: got to get off. I'm like, oh, I didn't know. 749 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know the rules. 750 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: Y'all pushed me up here, and now y'all trying to 751 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: push me off, you know. So and and I started 752 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: developing alike for it, not really a love yet until 753 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: Martin Lawrence had his brother call me and asked me 754 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: to open up for him. And that's when I was 755 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: like thirteen thousand people down at the Wells Fargo Arena, 756 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: that's what it was called then Stay Farmer Wells far 757 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: Go Arena in Baltimore City. But uh, that's when I 758 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: realized standing on that stage making my city laugh like that, 759 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm like all right, yeah, this is what I'm supposed 760 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: to be doing. 761 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Because proud of that you didn't have so you didn't 762 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: have a bug. It wasn't like when you first got 763 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: up there, you're like, Okay, I like this, I'm hooked like. 764 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't until Martin actually called you and you said, 765 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: h this is what I'm gonna do. Yep. 766 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: And that's when I started working on my craft. I 767 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: started actually going, like to open my other open mics 768 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: outside of Baltimore City and writing jokes and stuff like 769 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: that started. 770 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: So you quitch were you working at the time you 771 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: quit your job. 772 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: I was stealing, so you know that. But wow, I 773 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: love Miss Path, I know, but I am not a 774 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: thief now, I know, right, I know, I know. 775 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: So you do this, you get the bug and so 776 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: now you're writing stuff. You're like, I want to be 777 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: good at this. I want to be the best I 778 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: possibly can be at this, and you start taking it 779 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: serious and you from that point on, from when Martin 780 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: brother call you, that was the moment that you said, 781 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: what this is what I'm gonna do. 782 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: That is the moment. That is the moment when I 783 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: was on stage right because I was scared as hell. 784 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: He had called me about something else. He didn't even 785 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: call me to ask me to do the show. 786 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: First. 787 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: He called me because Martin was working on plays he 788 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: wanted to like get into like the play field, right, 789 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: and was like, Martin wants to do a play with you. 790 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Would you be interested? You know once you thinking about. 791 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: You was doing? Yeah? 792 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like of course. And then we 793 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: hung up, and then he called me back like, well, 794 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: what are you doing this weekend? Because you know Martin 795 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: is on this what now tour? Right, and and he 796 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: stops in Baltimore. You know it's from Maryland. I'm like, 797 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: y'all know everything about Martin. Martin was one of my 798 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: favorite actors coming up, like you know. And so he 799 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, would you mind open enough for him? 800 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: You got ten minutes to coming. 801 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: I was like shit, I. 802 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: Got an hour lying lying And so as soon as 803 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: I hung up, I called my brother. I'm like, yo, 804 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: I get to open up of Martin. I only been 805 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: on stage two or three times. I need you to 806 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: help me. He helped me that day of the show. 807 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: I went out. 808 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: There was me, Melanie Camacha and he had one other 809 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: person I forget who It wasn't then he went on, 810 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: I went out there, I forgot everything. Me and my 811 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: brother wrote down. Oh but because I was home and 812 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: it was Baltimore City and I knew the lingo, I 813 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: knew what they loved. I knew what I know. We 814 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: love some damn crabs. I know you know. I'm born 815 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 2: and raised there. I can only speak to my city. 816 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: Who better. 817 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: So killed it killed. It did a solid good ten 818 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: twelve minutes, and Martin was right there standing on the 819 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: side because he wanted to see how I did right, 820 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: and it was amazing. And that's when I was like, 821 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. 822 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: Give me give my rush More Baltimore comedians. Now you 823 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: know what, Baltimore, I'm gonna take it broad. You get 824 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: four comedians because a lot of times people be trying 825 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: to put seven, eight people on Mount Rushmore. Four am 826 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: so give me your Mount Rushmore comedians, pastor dead or alive. 827 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: It does not matter. Man, woman, it does not matter. 828 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: You can have four women, You could have four men. 829 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: You can do it both, mix a match, It does 830 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 1: not matter. Give me just hilarious. If she said, okay, Jess, 831 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: who are you my Rushmore comedians? 832 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: Bernie mac kat Williams Kevin Hart. Oh that last one. 833 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 834 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: And sure, I'm just gonna say just hilarious because I 835 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 2: want I wanted to. You know, it's it's hard. 836 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: It's hard. You went with a lot of a lot 837 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: of the modern comedians and not and then and then 838 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 1: go for go back too much like Richard Prown. 839 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, because I'm gonna be completely honest with you. 840 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: I didn't study them. I didn't really watch them, you 841 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 842 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: I didn't touring with comedians. What's that like? Going on 843 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: the road with comedians? Do y'all interact or do you Hey, 844 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm in my dressing room when it's time for me 845 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: to go out, I go out, I go back, I boom, 846 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm out me. 847 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't really interact. 848 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: A lot with or you stand off with people? 849 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm stay in my space. Is shit, 850 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: That's what I am because you know, just it's a 851 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: lot that goes into it, you know what I mean. 852 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: And then not that I'm not friendly, you know what 853 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean? But I treat work like work, you know 854 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: what I mean? 855 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: You ain't trying to get close to nobody. Help. 856 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: No, And it's not even purposely. I'm not trying. I 857 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: just don't, you know, it's a lot of just I know, 858 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't. 859 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. 860 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: You won't catch me hanging out. 861 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: You know. 862 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 2: The most hanging out that I've done is on Why Out. 863 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: You know, I love my wilding Out family. I love 864 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 2: all those comics there and everything. But yeah, that's that's 865 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: but that's it though, you know, I will say like 866 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: people like you know, what is his name, Bill Bellamy. 867 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: He's a great person. Mike Epps. Like Epps was the 868 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: first person to call me to drop gems, Like like 869 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: he was the first person that I actually talked to 870 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: that I could say, like was mentoring me about ownership 871 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: and just just a lot of different things like where 872 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 2: I think he made mistakes in his first I mean 873 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: in the early getting started. Yeah, and then he would 874 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: make things clear to me so I can not make 875 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: those same mistakes and things like that. 876 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned being a rope. Mikel F's, Ricky Smiley, Monique 877 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: and Bruce Bruce. What's what's some of the crazy story? 878 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: Because these it's the old guard I mean I used 879 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: to see Bruce Bruce in Atlanta. Monique's been at a while, 880 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: Mike F's been at this thing, you know, probably three decades, 881 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley has been at the same thing, one of 882 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: those when you're on the road, do you do you 883 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: try to pick their brain and try to get get 884 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: info or how to do this thing, how to go 885 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: about it? Am I doing it right? What should I 886 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: do different? Are you know, trying to get advice? No? 887 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: You know what, No, I'm not trying to get advice. 888 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: And I don't. Yeah, no, I don't try because this 889 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 2: is the thing. Yo. I don't even like to watch 890 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: other people stand up because I don't. It's very easy 891 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: to emulate somebody without doing it, without calling that you 892 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: do it, you know what I mean? Like, I remember 893 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: this one day I watched Sebastian I forgot his last name. 894 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: He's a comedian. I watched him all day and I 895 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: had to show that night and I went on stage 896 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 2: and I found myself speaking like this man, and I'm like, ah, 897 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: I can't do that, you know. But so I don't 898 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: watch stand up. I don't try to pick anybody's brain. 899 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: I will say Lunel and Leslie Jones, those two, they 900 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: they're really really good women. I love those two women 901 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: to death, like that, anytime that they feel the need 902 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: something that's laid on their heart. They reach out to 903 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: me and they I don't even ask them for advice, 904 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 2: They just give it, give it. And I love those 905 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: two because they're very supportive of me. 906 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: I had Kat on and he said, Jess hilarious is 907 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: one of his favorite up and coming comedians. 908 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. I saw that listen. Kad was 909 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: doing a lot of things up here. So when they 910 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: saw yes, it took me. First off, it took me 911 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: four days to watch all, you know, because I ain't 912 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 2: he always up here. For ten hours, I was like, damn, 913 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: I hope say they ain't had nobody else after him, 914 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: but but listen they I started watching it and then 915 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: everybody called on my phone, yo, you singing what? Kat 916 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: Williams said, I'm like, what do you say? I'm like, 917 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: Then they sent me they said no, he's it was great, 918 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: And I went and watched and I said, okay, good, 919 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: let me breathe. Because I had only heard about everybody 920 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: else that he didn't have anything nice to say about. 921 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 2: So I was like, oh God, how the hell would 922 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: I do? 923 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: You know? 924 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 2: But I'm glad because he's actually one of my favorite 925 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 2: comedians too, like his earlier stuff. Oh my god, I 926 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: love Kat. I grew up on Cad Williams. 927 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned an interview. What do you think hmmm? 928 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: I think you need have to ask no questions. You 929 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: didn't have to have. You didn't, you didn't. 930 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: Why didn't get mad at me? 931 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: Though, Jess, I don't know why they got mad. They 932 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: shouldn't have got mad at you. First of all, listen, 933 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: Cat only do interviews when he got something to say, yes, right, yes. 934 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: It ain't like you called him and say, look, come 935 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 2: up here, I got something. 936 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: I have been trying to get him for a year. 937 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 2: I get it. 938 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know he don't. He drives it. Well, 939 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: he takes the bus, and so he was gonna be 940 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: on this side of town. Yeah. And you know a 941 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: metal lady that hitting her job and she was going 942 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: to be his executive assistant. Yeah. So I've been trying 943 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: to line him up for a year. I talked to 944 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: her one Friday. The following friday, he's sitting on the 945 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: couch and so now, mind you, when he comes in, 946 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: he's already on one. 947 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's what I'm saying. So I don't 948 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: know why they got mad at you. I'm telling I 949 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: tell you one thing, though, it was good for you 950 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 2: and it was good for him to. 951 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: It, it was great for me. Yeah. It really put 952 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: me on the map. Yeah, yeah, put me on the map, 953 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: and it made people take my platform very very serious, serious, 954 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: and advertising sponsors took notice of that. Yep, and a 955 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: lot of good and hopefully it was mutually beneficial to him. Absolutely, 956 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: But you know, he had a lot to say about gatekeepers. Yeah. 957 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: Do you believe there's such a thing. 958 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 959 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: I do believe there. 960 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: I believe it kicks in if a certain person don't 961 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 2: like you, maybe you said something to offend the friend 962 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: of someone, or you know you or you know you 963 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: offend a community of people or. 964 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: Whatever, however it goes. 965 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is always someone who makes that decision or 966 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: maybe a group of people that makes that decision whether 967 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: or not to indulge in affairs with this person or 968 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 2: you know business. 969 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I do believe in gatekeeping. Though, were 970 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: you on joke stealing? Because Kat had a lot to 971 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: say about jokes. Deal he felt he said a joke, 972 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: said stole the joke, but he used a different apparatus. 973 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: One guy used the caddy, the other guy used the Spaceship. 974 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: Some people say, bro, if there's that serious, write a 975 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: new joke. If it was that easy for him to 976 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: steal the joke, the joke wasn't that deep to begin with. 977 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: Where where is Jess Hilarius on joke stealing? 978 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: Listen? I remember a time when I first started comedy, right, 979 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: telling you, I never studied the art of it. I 980 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 2: didn't know. And I sat at a show and there 981 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: was this comedian from Baltimore, right, and she had a 982 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 2: joke about squirting, right. I didn't like the way she 983 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 2: told it, right, So I said, all right, I'm gonna 984 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: take it, spin it around, throw a little jets on 985 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: that bitch, and I'm gonna retell it. 986 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: Right. 987 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 2: And I did that. And there is a comedian og 988 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 2: by the name of Larry Lancaster who had pulled me 989 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 2: to the side at the end of that show and 990 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 2: was like, Hey, you can't do that, you know, because 991 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: this comedian did that. That's very big in this culture. 992 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: You cannot do that in the culture of comedy. Cannot steal. 993 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, and even if I remix it, 994 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: it's not stealing, it's just it's the same idea. But 995 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: he said no, because you went online and said that 996 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: you were going to steal the joke, and I did 997 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: do that. So I was like, I just didn't know 998 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: the rules of it. But that was the first and 999 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: the last time I'd ever done something like that, you know. 1000 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: And and I didn't realize why she was so mad, 1001 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: like damn, just write another joke or tell it better 1002 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: than me, and I give it back. 1003 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: To you, you know what I mean. 1004 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 2: But it was but I'm like, nah, this is really 1005 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 2: an art. This is really rules to this thing. 1006 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: You know. 1007 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 1008 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, I guess people look at 1009 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: it like a song. Yeah if you say, if I 1010 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: sang the song and then you come behind it and 1011 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: sing it, will write a better song. No, bro, you 1012 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: my stuff man, And no, you got to give it back. 1013 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: It ain't sure. 1014 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I do not steal jokes. 1015 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that is it. 1016 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: When it comes to college basketball in March Mania, one 1017 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: thing is for sure. 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Okay, and 1052 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the road for let's say six weeks. Yeah, uh, 1053 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: how do you go about riding a set that's gonna 1054 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: be able to stand the test of time for that 1055 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: six weeks? And you're probably gonna be on stage twenty 1056 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: five thirty times. 1057 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 2: So see, I don't really write jokes out because I 1058 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: found that when I do that, I sound very rehearsed. 1059 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: And so what I do is I have bullets, and 1060 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 2: I have a writer session every week with my brother, 1061 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: the one who opens up for me my feature DOSSI Alexander, 1062 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 2: and we just bounce off of each other, you know, 1063 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 2: And I don't. 1064 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really like to write. 1065 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: You know. I have thirty minute set crafted for when 1066 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,959 Speaker 2: I do thirty minutes. Then I have a twenty minute 1067 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: set when I do features on other shows, like when 1068 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: I open up for Bill Bellamy and Bruce Bruce and 1069 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: all those people, you know, things like that dal Hugh 1070 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 2: Glee and Ricky Smiley and all that. But I, yeah, 1071 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really write. It's all up in here. 1072 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 2: I just have bullets and that's that's how that goes. 1073 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people, and they've pulled me to the side, 1074 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: just said Shannon, there's a lot. Look, it wasn't so 1075 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: much of what Kat said is that he pulled a 1076 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: curtain back and allow people to see something that we've 1077 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: been trying to keep secret. And so I think that's 1078 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: really Look, he called out a lot of people, yeah, 1079 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of prominent, powerful people. But it was more 1080 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: so that what he allowed people to see, because I 1081 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: don't think the general consensus is damn is that kind 1082 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: of animosity and vitriol in the in the comedic community. 1083 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, he was letting me, 1084 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: let me know things I didn't know either, Like watching it, 1085 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, dang, I didn't know that, you know what 1086 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean? But those were different times, and you know 1087 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 2: it's better now. 1088 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: But it's hard for you to know because you don't 1089 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: really get down with anybody. 1090 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 2: So you do your own thing and you out No yep, 1091 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 2: I know some comics will get mad at you for 1092 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 2: doing shows with people that they got beef with, and 1093 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: so they won't put you on the show yet unless 1094 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: you were me or somebody, you can just do shows 1095 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,479 Speaker 2: on your own, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah, 1096 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: that's that's you kind of gotta play the game, and 1097 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 2: that's that's so weird to me. 1098 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: You'll strike me as somebody like to play games. 1099 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 2: Hell no, not no game, not ever. 1100 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: You ever got into it with comedians? 1101 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 2: Have I ever got into it with a comedian? Hell yeah, 1102 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 2: I got into it with a comedian about what? Hm, 1103 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 2: you know, go fish through them cards? 1104 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: I know you got I don't know nothing. Zz I mean, 1105 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: I just I've just you know, I thought you was 1106 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: gonna be like you know, we. 1107 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 2: Just we thought I was gonna be like come up 1108 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 2: here with something to say and be like, look, No, 1109 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: I'm just. 1110 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: Saying, I'm just I'm just asking you what was it about. 1111 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, uh Corey hocom that that is a comedian 1112 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 2: that I got into it with. I did a photo 1113 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 2: shoot with my son and it went viral. I was naked, 1114 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 2: my son was not. I had my son had on 1115 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 2: Jordan's The only thing I had on was Jordan's and 1116 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 2: he was covering me, was covering my boobs, my private area, 1117 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 2: and he had on clothes. And I did the shoe. 1118 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 2: I posted it. It goes viral. Right the next morning, 1119 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 2: I wake up to uh Corey Hokum calling me a 1120 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 2: whoreror and you know, a black horror and saying that 1121 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 2: my son would be gay and this is why a 1122 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: lot of our young black men are gay because of 1123 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: Black Horse, Like just hilarious and things like that. And 1124 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: he was I do not know. I still have not 1125 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 2: got the chance to see this man. That was the 1126 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 2: reason why I went to Wilden out to see this man. 1127 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: And you didn't And he wasn't there that day. 1128 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: No, I made the show. But I'm like, thank you, Nick, 1129 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 2: but where's where's car? 1130 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: He's on her hand here? 1131 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 2: So why are you? Cause you know why I'm coming 1132 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 2: up here, Nick, because that's why you reached out to him, 1133 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 2: because I flamed him. I was roasting him back to 1134 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 2: back three days straight, and that's. 1135 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,439 Speaker 1: Why you reached out. Nick. 1136 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: You knew I wanted to see him. He said no, 1137 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 2: but you got on the sure. 1138 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: Thank you? You let it go? Now, Hell no, I 1139 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: ain't let it go. No, I didn't let it go. 1140 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it wasn't even so much about 1141 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 2: him talking about me. You don't say that kind of 1142 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: thing about somebody child, you know what I mean? You 1143 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 2: just you just don't say stuff like that, you know. 1144 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 2: But then I realized he don't have a relationship with 1145 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: his mother, you know what I mean, He doesn't have 1146 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 2: a relationship. 1147 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: With his kids. 1148 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 2: He told one of his kids, after them, he'll make 1149 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 2: another one, you know. So it's you know, and the 1150 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 2: way he talks about his family, you know, something like, 1151 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: h he has other issues obviously, you know, very dirty person, right, yeah, till. 1152 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,439 Speaker 1: But what's the audition process like? For a while 'n. 1153 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 2: Out they well how it was for me. I don't 1154 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 2: know how how it's changed. But well, I don't even 1155 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be no more wild enough? 1156 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: But really, huh, yeah, what happened, just like Sowing. 1157 00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 2: And Zeus Network, viacom. Oh they want it back huh yeah, 1158 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 2: well apparently they ain't take it. Nick didn't take it. Well, 1159 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 2: well yeah, that's what they're saying. They saying that he 1160 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,720 Speaker 2: took the whole idea and the whole concept of wilding 1161 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 2: out and took it over the Zeus with Lamel and 1162 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: them over there. So oh that's what they're saying. So 1163 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 2: ain't a wilding out now? I don't think. 1164 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: But either way, the question that you would ask me refresh. 1165 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 2: My mind again. 1166 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: Now, how do you audition? How do you how do 1167 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: you audition for a wild out? And then how do 1168 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: you make the show? 1169 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 2: Okay, back, wait because I don't know how it's changed, 1170 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: but back then you go, they'll they'll have it at 1171 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: a hotel, like in one of the Banquea halls or whatever, 1172 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: and then you go in there and then Nick wants 1173 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 2: you to joke on the spot, you know, go back 1174 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 2: and forth with somebody, or like a rap battle, because 1175 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,800 Speaker 2: the thing is wild style. Everybody's favorite thing is wild style. 1176 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't my favorite thing because I ain't just thinking 1177 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: of Valentine. That girl can rap for days and days 1178 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. But they they'll have you do that, 1179 00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: and they'll give you a topic and you just spitch 1180 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 2: jokes on it, you know what I mean. And then 1181 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 2: you'll just go back and forth with somebody like cracking 1182 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: on them, joking and roasting and stuff. And then if 1183 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 2: they like you enough, he'll tell you Okay, yeah, I 1184 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 2: got you, You're on it, or we'll call you back 1185 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 2: something like that. 1186 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: See, he already knew what I was capable of. 1187 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 2: That's why he reached out anyway, So I didn't have 1188 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: to go through a second step. You know, I just 1189 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 2: got it. 1190 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: What's your favorite moment of the show? But do you 1191 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 1: get up saying, because hey man, they'd be going in 1192 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: hard some just hey hey I might have had a 1193 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: swag on somebody. Uh oh, trust me. 1194 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: People want people have guests have canceled, guests have sent 1195 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 2: them stuff like, look, I'm gonna come up there, but 1196 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: y'all can't talk about this and. 1197 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: This, and y'all talk about this this and eighty. 1198 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 2: Five South which is Carlos DC and ch Goo. They 1199 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 2: be like, well, why are you coming up here? Because 1200 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 2: you already know we don't we don't go by that. 1201 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 2: We don't play we man, come on now, and then Nick, 1202 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 2: let let us do what we want on the show. 1203 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: It's like whatever we joke Nick. You know, Nick is 1204 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 2: always the butt of the jokes, so it's. 1205 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: Like what Chico, Chico got him? Good man? 1206 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 2: Ooh, them three stay on, Nick, Like, oh my god. 1207 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't even know how I would have been put 1208 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 2: them off my show. I don't ye yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1209 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 2: I love them though. 1210 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: They what's your favorite? Who's your favorite Wildern? I guess. 1211 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 2: The favorite wild Out guests or cast member, guest guest. 1212 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I don't got no favorite wild 1213 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 1: Enough guess. 1214 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you. The best episode that I watched, 1215 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 2: though I ain't gonna lie, was the one with t 1216 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 2: Pain and the one with Chance the Rapper. I wasn't there. 1217 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 2: I was off filming other things. But yeah, I can't 1218 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: really say. Wendy Williams, I ain't gonna lie. I got 1219 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: to meet Wendy Williams and she knew who I was, 1220 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 2: and I roasted her. She talked about me on her 1221 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 2: show after that. Shortly after that, she after she came. 1222 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,919 Speaker 2: But Wendy Williams was very fun. She was very fun. 1223 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 2: She came, she played the game. She wasn't scared of nobody. 1224 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: She know how she is. 1225 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 2: So she said, hey, y'all, bring it on. I love 1226 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 2: that boss nickas good godfair man. He praise before every show. 1227 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 2: He's he's really really. 1228 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: A good dude. 1229 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: I will always and forever respect Nick for this. So 1230 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: I did two seasons of Wilding Out right, and then 1231 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 2: I got cast it for the sitcom rel on Fox right, 1232 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 2: and I was gonna be series lead. And so that 1233 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 2: meant that I had to move to LA and I 1234 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 2: couldn't shoot Wilding Out and there was a season of 1235 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 2: that coming up, and so I went and I talked 1236 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 2: to Nick. I said, Nick, there's this show I want 1237 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: to do season whatever it was of Wilding Out, but 1238 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 2: I got casted, you know, to do real and said, Yo, 1239 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 2: go we're talking about this will always be your home. 1240 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 2: Whenever you want to come back or even if you don't, whatever, 1241 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 2: you always got a place on this show. That ain't 1242 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: me crying do That was that? 1243 00:56:59,080 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: That was dope. 1244 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, I see more for you. I 1245 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: see this for you. I saw this for you. Go 1246 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 2: ahead and you just come back when you're done. Like 1247 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 2: while I was gonna be here till. 1248 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: It ain't in private. You rag on Rick Nick about 1249 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: all them kids. 1250 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: In private and public, I'd be like, damn, come on now, man. Yeah, 1251 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: I just felt like, I don't know. In my opinion, 1252 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 2: I felt like that marriage messed that man up, and 1253 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 2: now he's over compensating for something he couldn't compensate for. 1254 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 2: That's just what it is. You know, he may get 1255 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 2: angry at that, and it wouldn't be the first time 1256 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 2: Nick got mad at me about a comment. But you know, 1257 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 2: I just I don't know. And I'm not to say 1258 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 2: that he's just making kids for the fun of it, 1259 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 2: but you know, would it seems like but I know 1260 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 2: he loves all of his children dearly, you know. But yeah, 1261 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 2: I'm just like, God, damn, you're purposely doing this, purposely 1262 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: doing this, so. 1263 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: You blame him with the lady just allowed him to 1264 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: know he's purposely doing this. 1265 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: M Well, I would honestly say it would have to 1266 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 2: be on the woman, right, because it's your body. He 1267 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: ain't the one having the kids. 1268 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: And you know it, men can't have kids, right. 1269 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it for the people in the back. 1270 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 2: Men can't have kids. So you know it's the women. 1271 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: Maybe the first make that decisions. Maybe the first two 1272 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: they didn't know. Yeah, but three, four, five, six, seven. 1273 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: They yeah, come on now. And then the one that's 1274 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 2: brewing right now. Probably if it is one, I don't know. 1275 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, but we never know because ever since 1276 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: they said Elon must got thirteen, Now, Meek Mail and 1277 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 2: Nick and all of them, they're like, oh no, we can't, 1278 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 2: we we must. 1279 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: Us is worth four hundred and thirty. 1280 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 2: I keep trying to tell he's there's a different because 1281 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: one thing Nigga's gonna do is nig And I keep 1282 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: telling them, y'all can't nig with him, Yes, no, no, no, 1283 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 2: he can't do that. Yeah, and and Meek for Mick 1284 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 2: Mill to say, Yo, I can't let Elon must have 1285 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: more baby mothers than me. Sir, you're looking at it wrong. 1286 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: Elon Musk made what one hundred and seventy seven billion 1287 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 2: dollars in the last thirty days? Yeah, with your mindset 1288 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 2: should be so, I can't let this man. How did 1289 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 2: this man is rich? I need to get on that. 1290 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 2: But you're talking, your mind is so in the bottom. 1291 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,439 Speaker 1: Youre thinking about baby. What you're talking about this bad 1292 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: thinking about dollars exactly. Come on, now, okay, you said 1293 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: Nick and Sue and Viacom. He's suing Viacom is Sue 1294 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: and him? 1295 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 2: Yes, it said that's that was in the headlines. 1296 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: Right now with the Bad Versus Wild show. 1297 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 2: Bad Versus Wild and Zeus. It ain't only Nick is 1298 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 2: Zeus Network? 1299 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? What about Drake? This? This Drake suing universal about 1300 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: what transpired with him and Kendrick over this. I mean, 1301 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: this might be the greatest disc song. Yeah, no it is. 1302 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: I thought with no Vassa lead, I thought I hear 1303 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: him up, I thought ether A Shetha with Remy Mab, 1304 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, but this five Grammys, I mean, 1305 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: and he hit lining the super Bowl and number one 1306 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: on the charts again. 1307 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 2: And why wouldnety performed that song? 1308 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: What got you? Yeah? You got to Now it's like 1309 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: your best joking. You don't You're not gonna tell it 1310 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: what you mean? 1311 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell it on my special what please? 1312 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I get that way up. 1313 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 2: I don't care who would make mad it is? It 1314 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 2: is what it is now because there's like a double 1315 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: sided thing with that. Now while rap is raped, there 1316 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 2: are no rules. Yeah, you hit below the belt. Kendrick 1317 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 2: just went to hell with it. 1318 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, so that's how I know I ain't going low. 1319 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to hell. Yep, that's right. 1320 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 2: I love you, Michelle Obama, but nah, we're gonna have 1321 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 2: to take it down there. And yeah, and I get it. 1322 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 2: But I will say Drake does have a valid argument 1323 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 2: when it comes to losing brands over such an accusation, 1324 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 2: like you know, the pedophile thing and you saying that 1325 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: you know, I like little girls and you know what 1326 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just and that that's surely could cost 1327 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 2: you some business, you know, some money sponsors and endorsements 1328 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 2: and all of that type of stuff, you know, going 1329 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 2: as far as because these are this is these and 1330 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 2: these are the people that they help you where you are, 1331 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 2: and that that gives you the tricks of the trade, 1332 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 2: and because some of your songs, I don't know how 1333 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 2: the hell they made it to Yeah, like what's the 1334 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 2: two sy slide? I don't and that wo number one. 1335 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm so now you know how whether you know they 1336 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 2: use those tricks of the trade for Kendrick, whether they 1337 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 2: did that or not, you once benefited from that, you know. 1338 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: So that's the problem. It helped you get to where 1339 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: you got. 1340 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're going to turn around and sue. So 1341 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 2: I think he's stepping into something that he probably would 1342 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 2: regret later. 1343 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I met your question. You think he's lost business because 1344 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: of the pedo accusations. Yeah, yeah, I do, I really 1345 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: really do. 1346 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 2: And I honestly think that's why he's been also just 1347 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 2: like quiet as well, and then going to all these 1348 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 2: other countries to perform and things where where all of 1349 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 2: that stuff in America ain't really like there to bother 1350 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 2: him as much in Australia. Ain't nobody, ain't gonna be you. 1351 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: No people because people like it's just words. I don't 1352 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: like people play on my name yet. Yeah, And like 1353 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: you said, they maybe that accusation has caused them some advertiser, 1354 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: sponsors and that business opportunities because there are people playing 1355 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: with my name. And I was just like, you know what, 1356 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: and I had to ask myself and I went to 1357 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: my agency. I said, look, has anybody has I lost 1358 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 1: any business because of what they're legit? It's like no, 1359 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: So I let it go because if had I had, 1360 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have to see some of these people. 1361 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, So what you own. 1362 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right now. But see, your accusations ain't 1363 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 2: as bad as the accusations that he Like when somebody 1364 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 2: call you a pedophile and then a certain the certified 1365 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, I'm not just a pedophile. 1366 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a certified You got papers and everything. You 1367 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: know you were, you certified, You got paper damn right, 1368 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: Hey no school district, case stay here, case, stay there, 1369 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: you don't check. 1370 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 2: In, That's right. So that's like you say that if 1371 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 2: I was, and if I was tied to any business 1372 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 2: with Drake, I would be looking like all right, well, 1373 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 2: what's up? 1374 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: What's going on? But they said, well you talked about 1375 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: that man family, you say this, this is your child 1376 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 1: ain't here. So you said, hey, if you go low, 1377 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,439 Speaker 1: we going to hell. 1378 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that ain't got no weight up against the 1379 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 2: those rumors. Well, I mean that, that accusation, So I 1380 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 2: get it. 1381 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I guess it's a situation just where you step on 1382 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: my tour and somebody knock you out. You're like, bro, 1383 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: you have to do it like that. 1384 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 2: You're right, right, you know what I'm saying all the off. 1385 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 2: But he did say he did give a warning and euphoria. 1386 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: He did he said, all right, I'm a chill out, 1387 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying, I ain't he gave 1388 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: the warning like y'all, but I ain't gonna lie. He 1389 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 2: ate him up in euphoria even more than not like us. 1390 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he called Drake Kendrick. I mean, Drake called Kendrick 1391 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: a woman beater than Kendrick called Jacob pedophile. I mean, 1392 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: whether it about it? What do you think do you 1393 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 1: think this initiated about have anything to do with the women? 1394 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Because we know guys were a rams, we'll butt heads 1395 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: about a female. 1396 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 2: I honestly don't think I had anything that did good woman. 1397 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 2: I think that's more so like a Drake thing. I 1398 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 2: think Drake would get mad over a woman before Kendrick would. 1399 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 1400 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Either one of these brothers. But knowing what I what 1401 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 2: we've all seen and how we know, Drake is a 1402 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 2: very emotional person. Kendrick is a very healed verson like 1403 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 2: he rapped like he is in therapy currently. Yes, you 1404 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And he goes deep with things. 1405 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 2: I think that that I don't think it's a white woman. Yeah, 1406 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 2: uh huh, he just passed you listen. He rapping for 1407 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 2: ancestors and everything. Yes, you know, once upon a time 1408 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 2: we was like the beness. Oh lord, yeah you know? 1409 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think it was 1410 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 2: over a woman. 1411 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't. What about DJ academics taking shots at you 1412 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: while seemingly supporting Drake? You know, do you know him? 1413 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever met him? 1414 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 2: I ain't never met his badass never. I'd never met 1415 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 2: him in my life and I never will because he's 1416 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 2: always in the basement. 1417 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: So chess who always in the basement? Child? Why why? 1418 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Why people could? Why why people come for us? I don't. 1419 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, Shannon, you know, I guess because we're 1420 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 2: very confident people. People love to see you win. Until 1421 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 2: you win, you win, you know what I mean? They 1422 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 2: love they they want you. They want you to be. 1423 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Cocky. 1424 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: No, they want you to win, but they don't want 1425 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: you to be cocky with it. They don't want you 1426 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 2: to celebrate yourself. They put a ceiling, people will put 1427 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 2: a ceiling on you. Ain't no ceiling over here. I'm 1428 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 2: going straight up right, I don't care how long it 1429 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 2: takes me to get there. I'm not gonna play no games. 1430 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna cut no corners. You know what I mean, 1431 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 2: unless it's all legitimate. But people put a ceiling on you, 1432 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's the problem. People don't want to 1433 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 2: see you win until you surpassed with winning to them, 1434 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 2: you know, And then now it's, oh, she need to 1435 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 2: calm down, Oh he need to calm down, Like, no, 1436 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,479 Speaker 2: don't get above yourself. For why why are you trying 1437 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 2: to keep me humble? 1438 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Right? 1439 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 2: What is that? 1440 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: No? Why you're right? Because the thing is when I 1441 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 1: was at when I was at Fox and my termator 1442 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: and I got ended up. Let go, people like, man, 1443 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: they did you wrong, YadA, YadA, YadA. Then I start winning. 1444 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: ESPN picked me up. I'm on the bigger platforms, right 1445 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 1: my podcast, I started another podcast and it goes and 1446 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: so now everybody got a problem. Yeah, I'm the same Shannon. 1447 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 1: I was the same Shannon that y'all love when I 1448 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 1: supported Colin Kaepernick. I was the same Shannon that when 1449 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: things transpired that I spoke positive about my people. Ain't 1450 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: nothing changed. I'm just winning a little more. And now 1451 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: it's a problem. 1452 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. 1453 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't. 1454 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't get that about us because they put a 1455 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 2: ceiling on you. You weren't supposed to do all of that. 1456 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 2: You weren't supposed to. You were supposed to just fall 1457 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 2: by the wayside and do what they had in their 1458 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 2: mind for. 1459 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: You to do. 1460 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 2: But you surpassed a lot of people's expectations. 1461 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: When you when you see negative comments about Jess, do 1462 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: you what's what's the first thing that goes through your mind. 1463 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get there. But then it's like, I am reformed. 1464 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 2: I have come so much further than that. And my 1465 01:07:55,400 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 2: growth in that is just like, look, you can't beat everybody. 1466 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 2: You can't respond to everybody, you can't win them all. Listen, 1467 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 2: it's like whatever. 1468 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: You can't go to war with everything. 1469 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 2: You can't go to war with everybody. You can't but 1470 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 2: them I do, yeah, because because listen, if a come 1471 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 2: and gets you crazy, I like to go to your 1472 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,679 Speaker 2: page and scroll and don't have you don't have it public, 1473 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 2: and I can scroll down and look at you and 1474 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 2: look at your your parents and see who made you 1475 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 2: and see. 1476 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Who you look like, and you look like your dad. 1477 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, yeah, yeah, so yeah, Now I 1478 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,600 Speaker 2: don't talk about nobody kids though, but yeah, don't try me. 1479 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 2: That's it. 1480 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 1: You kids are always gonna be off hell. Yeah. Yeah. 1481 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 2: I believe once you talk about somebody kids, they can 1482 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 2: say anything to you. 1483 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: It don't matter. 1484 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 2: It don't don't talk about nobody's children, y'all. And and 1485 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 2: you can say anything back. I don't care what it is. 1486 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 2: You see whatever you to hit below, somebody talk about 1487 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,719 Speaker 2: your children children innocent. 1488 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: You talked about this a little earlier the TV show 1489 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,640 Speaker 1: with Little Reales on Fox with Simbad, So tell me 1490 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Tim a little bit about it. 1491 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 2: It was amazing. It was amazing working with Symbad, like 1492 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 2: he dropped so many Yes, he dropped so many gems. 1493 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 2: That was the person because I'm trying to see her 1494 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,719 Speaker 2: and think when you asked me a little bit earlier, 1495 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 2: anybody ever give you any advice Simbad? But it wasn't. 1496 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't for stand up. It was just like in 1497 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,640 Speaker 2: general Lifefe and yeah, but he is a comedian that 1498 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 2: did give me advice on that set. It was It 1499 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 2: was nice. It was amazing working That was the first 1500 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 2: time I'd ever been a part of a big production 1501 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 2: like that. They treated me well. Money was great, especially 1502 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 2: coming from Wilno. Yes, I was like, okay, Fox, what okay, 1503 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm old parking spot. I got you know, you money, 1504 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 2: I get money to eat and all types of stuff 1505 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 2: it listen, Fox, they treat their people will so yes, 1506 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 2: but it was amazing. And then Reil had a different 1507 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 2: o g come every single episode. So he that that's 1508 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 2: what was unique about his show. So Florence from the Jeffersons, Yes, yes, 1509 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 2: oh Marlly she was there. She was amazing. Then he 1510 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,240 Speaker 2: would have he had Leon. Leon ain't got no last name. Leon? 1511 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 2: Is we know Leon the Temptation? Yeah, it's just Leon. 1512 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Leon. 1513 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: He was there and it's Leon still. But it's just 1514 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 2: just a series of ogs. And just like people before 1515 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 2: our time who came and who was still like their season, 1516 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 2: but they are like that, and they they came through 1517 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 2: and they showed up for him, you know, for that 1518 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 2: that that first season. And although the show was canceled, Yeah, 1519 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 2: you ain't had to say it. I was gonna say, Okay, 1520 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 2: damn he made sure it got canceled. 1521 01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 1: No, but but I want I wanted to ask. I mean, 1522 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: twelve episodes that got canceled, So how did that make 1523 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: you feel? I mean, did you think you're gonna get 1524 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,599 Speaker 1: picked up for a season two? I did? I did? 1525 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 2: I honestly, I did. I thought we were going to 1526 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 2: get picked up. While I felt like the writing could 1527 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 2: have been better and I felt like it could have 1528 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 2: depict us more. It was a lot of people pleasing 1529 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 2: happening because hmm, you really gotta be careful how you 1530 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 2: move in terms of making a project based on a culture, 1531 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 2: like based on our culture. You know, it's going on Fox, 1532 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And at first I wasn't 1533 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 2: even gonna be cast it because they thought that I 1534 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 2: was too green for it in those terms. She has 1535 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 2: never done this before, so we don't basically, we don't 1536 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 2: trust that she will be a great you know, quanodity 1537 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 2: for the show. 1538 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 1: But Ro. 1539 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:10,560 Speaker 2: Picked me and and also Carmichael. Carmichael picked me for 1540 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 2: me to be in there along with Roll as well. 1541 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 2: But it was just a lot of things that we 1542 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 2: didn't resonate with that they wanted to change the script to, 1543 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 2: and and Ral would push back and Girra would push back, 1544 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 2: and you know, but I just think, I just think, you. 1545 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Think they should have been a little bit more mable, you. 1546 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 2: Know, it just could have been and I think that's 1547 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 2: what we were missing on the show. But you know, 1548 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,719 Speaker 2: you learn and it was Rel's first show, and I think, 1549 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 2: honestly it was even too early for him to have 1550 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 2: a show of his own. 1551 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned that those TV checks that hit. 1552 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 2: Different, especially over there at Fox. 1553 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: You had to spent You had spent a couple of 1554 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: them checks already expected the next new season. 1555 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,719 Speaker 2: Listen, I still got a lot of money from Fox. Yes, 1556 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 2: I still do. I still get money from wild Out. 1557 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 2: They always send me like nine dollars eighty eight cent 1558 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 2: checks every now and then. 1559 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: You know, I can use that. 1560 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 2: I use that, go to Chipotle, get a couple of 1561 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 2: aver juices. 1562 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: So you know something. Let me ask you a question. 1563 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,800 Speaker 1: What is something that you wish you knew before you 1564 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,520 Speaker 1: got into the TV business. 1565 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 2: M hmm, something that I wish I knew before I 1566 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 2: got into the TV business, because I think. 1567 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 1: If you were, if you were to do another TV show, 1568 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: you would be even more prepared than you were with 1569 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: that one, because you know things that you didn't know 1570 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,759 Speaker 1: when you did that. Yeah, yeah, hmm. 1571 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 2: I honestly, I honestly don't wish I knew anything but 1572 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 2: before I would literally do this all over again. 1573 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,639 Speaker 1: I would. I would. 1574 01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 2: I would As it relates to people, though, I wish 1575 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 2: I knew certain agendas or the agendas of certain people 1576 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 2: that that claims, you know, to be so close. I 1577 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 2: love you you like family, you know what I mean? 1578 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 2: I wish I knew the agendas of certain people, you know. Yeah, 1579 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 2: which is why I don't hang out with people in 1580 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 2: the industry. I don't like to receive advice from everybody. 1581 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't even like everybody praying for me. 1582 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 1: No they're not. They praying but not for the good, 1583 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 1: that's right. So I don't. Yeah, everybody, you know I 1584 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: pray for you, don't please don't because I already do 1585 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 1: what the God say. God should have told you. 1586 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 2: Look, she don't want you to She told me, don't 1587 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 2: be accept the prayers from you. 1588 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 1: So you know, Little Reel is really l I l 1589 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Rail now no, oh hell yeah. Why did everybody believe 1590 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,559 Speaker 1: that man on that he needed. 1591 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 2: To put the tea the two tea's yeah, in the 1592 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,759 Speaker 2: name not just little, it's little real Now he's literally 1593 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 2: little Reil Now. 1594 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean I had him on. He thin, he thin 1595 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: thin yeah, jes people thinking on that zipp yeah. And 1596 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: he said he now we got that package. He said, 1597 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 1: what baggage? What baggage is that it's on the card. 1598 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 1: But you know, you know when black people you you 1599 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: lose a little weight black people. 1600 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:36,599 Speaker 2: Oh you talking about that? I know you, damn right. 1601 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 2: And that's that's in any city. I ain't gonna say 1602 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 2: that's growing up in Baltimore City. In any city where 1603 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 2: it's black people, you're getting sick. 1604 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 1: Damn you can't. I got a jail membership. I just 1605 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm on crack. Like, all right, we lose weight, you know, 1606 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: but why we like that like that? That's how we 1607 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 1: grew up. Yes, a drastic chain. Oh yeah, I'm going on. Yep. 1608 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,599 Speaker 2: And if you're big, I mean, if you're small and 1609 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 2: you blow up, you on depot. 1610 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 1: That's what they say for the women. 1611 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 2: All she must have got that Debora Vara shot that 1612 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 2: birth control. Yep, you know, but I don't. I don't know. 1613 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 2: I he said that he wasn't. We had him up 1614 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 2: a Berkele's club. He totally turned down the rumors of 1615 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 2: being on Ozimbic and he said he's working out, and 1616 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 2: he said he's the happiest he's ever been in his life. 1617 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, because I knew he was suposed to get married, 1618 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: because when he came on us, he was supposed to 1619 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: get married. 1620 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah he's married. I believe he is married. I don't know. No, No, no, 1621 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 2: he might he might be because he refers to her 1622 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: as his wife, so they may have gotten married already. 1623 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 1: The BBL. Do you think, Hollywood is this? Is this 1624 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: what women just want to do or there's a pressure 1625 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 1: of societal pressure to do this? 1626 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 2: I think. I think a lot of people are not 1627 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,080 Speaker 2: happy with their bodies, and now that they're there is 1628 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 2: a way that you can change that, you know, And 1629 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 2: at first it really wasn't affordable to a lot of people, 1630 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 2: but now it is. You can put you can make 1631 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 2: payments on you know, your surgery and everything. And I 1632 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 2: used to joke about it, but it's like, you know 1633 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 2: what if there is something seriously wrong with you, to 1634 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 2: you and now you have all of these resources to 1635 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 2: fix it, you know, why not go ahead? I just 1636 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 2: I just wish women would do it in moderation, like 1637 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,639 Speaker 2: all these repeat offenders. I know, girls that go and 1638 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 2: get life pole twice a year. Yeah like that. You know, 1639 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 2: I ain't working out what I look like working out? 1640 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,560 Speaker 2: I can call a doctor's such that such. Yeah, you 1641 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 2: can also die too, dunny, Like I don't you know 1642 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,879 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, you just because you've done this before, 1643 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 2: you don't ever have that thun in your mind that 1644 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 2: this may be the time I don't wake up. This 1645 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 2: may be they may hit an artery or nerve or 1646 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 2: something in a vein, you know. 1647 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I mean, some of them, it's 1648 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 1: just too crazy. I mean, it should be subtle. Look, 1649 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 1: if you want to do it, that's your body, let 1650 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: it be subtle. But when it's look at them like 1651 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 1: and everybody like exactly, I'm on now, I know. I mean, 1652 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't be one hundred and fifty pounds 1653 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 1: with a fifty pound fifty pound booty, I know. 1654 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:30,759 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or when you or when you already start 1655 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 2: off three hundred pounds and then you go get life, 1656 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 2: oh you get the fat sucked out the middle part, 1657 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 2: and then now it's I don't know, it looked like they. 1658 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Want to be like they want to be like like 1659 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 1: they have these little teeny tiny weight. 1660 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 2: Yes big yeah, and then you big down there and 1661 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 2: and it's it's just not proportioned, right even. 1662 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 1: If you got a big but your back can't be 1663 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 1: bought of the mind and think it's sexy. 1664 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm. 1665 01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Saying, would you do would you do? Well? Would I 1666 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: do it? I wouldn't do it again. 1667 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 2: I've actually had a fat transfer and I've had my 1668 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 2: boobs done. 1669 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I don't. I don't really think. I 1670 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: don't really people don't really look at booths like that 1671 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 1: and something drafted. But when they getting when they keep 1672 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: going back and getting fillers and and all that other stuff. 1673 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my BBL back when it was called 1674 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 2: a fat transfer. Okay, it wasn't called a BBL because 1675 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 2: I didn't get my butt lifted. That's why I said. 1676 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why they called it a Brazilian butt lift. 1677 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:29,639 Speaker 1: It was. 1678 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 2: It was called a fat transfer before. And I got 1679 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,640 Speaker 2: it done in Atlanta and and it was fine. But 1680 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 2: when I went my doctor had told me like, look, yo, 1681 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 2: you don't got enough fat to be I said, listen, 1682 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm like Gina Waters. I got a lot of muscle 1683 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 2: on my sides. I've never had hips. Give me hips, please, 1684 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 2: And he was, you have yeah, like I would like 1685 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 2: it would be dented then, and I'm like, yo, I'm 1686 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 2: tired of looking strong like I just you know, I 1687 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 2: want I want some type of you know. 1688 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: And so he's sorry. 1689 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 2: Were gonna feel out as much as we can. But 1690 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 2: one thing you need to know about fat. When you 1691 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 2: take it out and all the fluid drained from it, 1692 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 2: it's not what it looks like. So you're gonna the 1693 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 2: swelling is gonna go down, and it's probably gonna look 1694 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 2: the same. I said, do it anyway. And so that's 1695 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,759 Speaker 2: why people don't believe that I did get a BBL 1696 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 2: because it doesn't really look like it. But I think 1697 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 2: I got one of the most natural looking surgeries ever. 1698 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Doctor who but your sister called you out for that her. 1699 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that Hafa tried me real bad because she got fired. 1700 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 1: Why you tell her? 1701 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 2: Guess see, my God said, So, I've been knowing this 1702 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 2: girl since I was two years old. She cam because 1703 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 2: I got I fired her. She was working for me, 1704 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 2: she was my driver. Listen, I didn't even have a 1705 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 2: job opportunity for her. I created a job for this girl, right, 1706 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 2: And oh my god, it hurt me so bad that 1707 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 2: she did that. And she claimed it hurt her so 1708 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 2: bad because I fired her. And yes, she she had 1709 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 2: children and you know. 1710 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: What she doing. So why did you fire? I fired her? 1711 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,840 Speaker 2: Because she wasn't doing her damn job. Listen, this girl. 1712 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 2: We was on the road, right and this girl stole 1713 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 2: my wig and my car to go do something, go 1714 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 2: meet I don't know if it was a meet a 1715 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 2: guy something. We and we're in another city. How you 1716 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,120 Speaker 2: know somebody down here in Florida? And why would you 1717 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 2: take my wig? I was supposed to wear it on 1718 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:25,799 Speaker 2: stage tonight. 1719 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 1: You can still wear it that night, but. 1720 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 2: Stage that night. And she gave it back, but she 1721 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,559 Speaker 2: gonna gonna come in there with some flowers and you 1722 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 2: took my car. And then the security I had at 1723 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,800 Speaker 2: the time, he liked that serious. So he ain't even 1724 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 2: tell me until I woke up, like, oh, she was 1725 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 2: supposed to have been back. She went to go get 1726 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 2: something for you the whole time. No, she went to 1727 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 2: get something for her. 1728 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: She got it, yeah, and she probably had the wig 1729 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,479 Speaker 1: on it she did. 1730 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 2: I get back my wig off, smelly, I'm like, what's 1731 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 2: going on? Yeah, it sex somebody else sex wig. I'm like, yo, 1732 01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 2: through the show, look and you'll fight it. 1733 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 1: So that's it. So how hard does it work with family? Oh? 1734 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,599 Speaker 1: My god, I might say, because you hear a lot 1735 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,639 Speaker 1: some people say it's okay, some people say no family friends. 1736 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,480 Speaker 1: When you come to business. When it comes to work relationship, 1737 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,879 Speaker 1: leave it alone, leave it alone. 1738 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes it can work, Shan, Sometimes it can, but oftentimes 1739 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 2: it will not. And then sometimes it starts off great 1740 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 2: and it can go for years and years and years, 1741 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 2: and then a person you'll see the jealousy, you'll see 1742 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 2: because now they're paying attention to your pockets. Yeah yeah, 1743 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 2: to what you're going to do and what you could 1744 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 2: do for them, right, you know, and how you can. 1745 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 2: And then sometimes people want to be you, and you 1746 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,680 Speaker 2: don't even realize that, you know what I mean, and 1747 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 2: so they become First at first it feels like a 1748 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,759 Speaker 2: weird obsession until they get upset with you about something, 1749 01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 2: and then they start telling you they are the reason 1750 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 2: that you are where you are, you know what I mean. 1751 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:08,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, now you ain't even help, right, none of this, 1752 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 2: none of us. 1753 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 1: You don't get up every morning and get on the show. 1754 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 2: Listen, you don't. You don't. You're not flying back and forth, 1755 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,800 Speaker 2: and you're not being away from your damn kids, and 1756 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 2: you're you're not having to deal with controversy after car 1757 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 2: and trying to figure out like how you can keep 1758 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 2: this ship moving without me, none of y'all eat. And 1759 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 2: I need y'all to know that. And I don't even 1760 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 2: like throwing that out there like that, but that's that's. 1761 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: Me right there. 1762 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 2: You know. I gave y'all jobs and positions, and y'all 1763 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 2: just I just did whatever with it, taking advantage. And 1764 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm a really really kind hearted person. I'm not a pushover, 1765 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 2: but I love very hard and I had to, yes, 1766 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 2: and I had to make some very tough decisions firing 1767 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 2: family and actually not speaking to a few of them. 1768 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Now. 1769 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, people still and people just yeah, they sabotage 1770 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:08,719 Speaker 2: you if they feel like they ain't getting enough. 1771 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 1: You know, you were the first lady of BML. How 1772 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:12,799 Speaker 1: was that experience? 1773 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 2: Working with Ifica Fox? Was amazing? I love her, I 1774 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 2: love her, love her. She checks on me, she hits 1775 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 2: me up, she checked them even after doing the production, 1776 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 2: doing after doing the movie with her. So yeah, that 1777 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 2: was amazing. That was good doing that. 1778 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 1: But you had a little you, you and little meet 1779 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 1: you had a little issue, y'all. Y'all resolved that. 1780 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 2: No, I think he got other stuff to do now, 1781 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 2: like he got some other resolving he needs to do 1782 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 2: at this point. But he had came to wallinot Yeah, 1783 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,719 Speaker 2: and he's a little busty. Yeah. 1784 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Oh and you know that's all I said, you know, 1785 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 1: but I didn't say it first. 1786 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,559 Speaker 2: I ain't even going to hey, y'all will meet Musty. 1787 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,679 Speaker 2: It was somebody else, I mean, from another city. No, 1788 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 2: I co signed it. 1789 01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right. 1790 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,679 Speaker 2: I SA did smell that one time. 1791 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 1: That he was up there. If you get apartment and 1792 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 1: you can't get it, and I coach sided, you don't 1793 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,800 Speaker 1: pay for it, they gonna hit up. Yeah. 1794 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they But it was one of his fans 1795 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,960 Speaker 2: who he did a club hosting, and she had went 1796 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 2: online and she had said lord min stink and then 1797 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 2: we reported it up at the breakfast leven I said, well, 1798 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 2: he did have a little stitch when he came up 1799 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,719 Speaker 2: at walling out. You know, it wasn't nothing too crazy. 1800 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 2: He could have been out the night before and it 1801 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 2: just didn't have time and hit the showers, you know, 1802 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,640 Speaker 2: but he got upset, and you know because he was 1803 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 2: with Somemer Walker. Yeah, they got he needed you need 1804 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 2: to tell him. They got wipes, but I got the wipes. 1805 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. So some of Walker came here, came A. Yeah, man. 1806 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,719 Speaker 2: She she was like she ain't like, come at me crazy, 1807 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,439 Speaker 2: but you know when some are being loved, she being 1808 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,599 Speaker 2: loved and she don't, well, it don't care what, It 1809 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 2: don't matter what them guys do. She gonna go back, 1810 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,639 Speaker 2: go to back for them guys. Right now, she had 1811 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,360 Speaker 2: came out and she was just like this little girl 1812 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,719 Speaker 2: want him or something like that. I'm like, little girl, baby, 1813 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 2: excuse me. 1814 01:25:59,120 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Huh. 1815 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 2: But around my birthday right this is c I Double 1816 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 2: A weekend. This was two years ago. I had a 1817 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,439 Speaker 2: birthday party and little Meach was in town for c 1818 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 2: I Double A. He was doing a party right down 1819 01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 2: the street from my birthday party. I DMed him and said, hey, 1820 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,719 Speaker 2: did cause I wanted some more star power at my party. 1821 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 2: I said, hey, I don't know what you're doing after 1822 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 2: your party, but if you want to stop past my 1823 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,800 Speaker 2: birthday party, we do have a section for you or whatever, 1824 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:22,639 Speaker 2: you know, something like that. 1825 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 1: This man screenshot of that. 1826 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 2: And posted it after I said that he was a 1827 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,760 Speaker 2: little musty, you know, like I was trying to get 1828 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,839 Speaker 2: with him. And then what I got mad at summer 1829 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 2: about was you so damn dumb you think that was 1830 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,559 Speaker 2: me trying to get at him. If I was summer, 1831 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 2: I'd have been like, no, baby, this ain't nothing to use. 1832 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,720 Speaker 2: This is not like you can't post this if you're 1833 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 2: gonna come at a come at her. But she ain't 1834 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 2: trying to get with you here, like come on, let 1835 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,640 Speaker 2: just let's just use your mind as a woman or 1836 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 2: your heart as a woman. Like you know, I wasn't 1837 01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 2: trying to get with that little boy. He looked like 1838 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,559 Speaker 2: Rob Schneider, you know, the guy to do this, bigger 1839 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 2: old male. 1840 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:04,960 Speaker 1: But she call you a name. 1841 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 2: No, then she called me a lot of names. I 1842 01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,719 Speaker 2: think she just said, this little girl with there's something, 1843 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 2: are you shet me ugly? Oh my good? 1844 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Use one chromosome away. I an't even know. 1845 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 2: She even said that word. She said one chromosome away 1846 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 2: from what there's. 1847 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 1: Two chromosomes if you me mm hmm. 1848 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 2: She I'm gonna pray for her too. 1849 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't know that. 1850 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,639 Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad that you told me, no. 1851 01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,800 Speaker 1: Let it go. 1852 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 2: But I had no idea let it go. That she 1853 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,639 Speaker 2: tried to call me one of them let it go, 1854 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 2: all right, That's that's what he did. 1855 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 1: He let it go. 1856 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,640 Speaker 2: And nothing. Then she had to move on and do 1857 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 2: add to all of that. That cousin wasn't that cousin. 1858 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 2: That cousin was somebody he was dealing with, and so 1859 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 2: he let you go. 1860 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,639 Speaker 1: See there you go. 1861 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 2: I can't believe she said that. What's the next question. 1862 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,360 Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two 1863 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,639 Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever 1864 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just 1865 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,000 Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Shay profile and I'll see 1866 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 1: you there.