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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, nous contreres alongside Eli Sussman, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another episode of Marlins Barbecue.

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Speaker 2: What better way to come back elive, huh than with

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Speaker 2: two w's baby.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly where we left off last spring. The most

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Speaker 3: dominant team in the league at the moment, at the

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Speaker 3: top of the Grapefruit League standings. It's so much fun.

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Speaker 3: It's so much fun to follow this team. They take

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Speaker 3: it seriously this early in the year, and it's a

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Speaker 3: good combo of the prospects, everybody from the real prospects

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Speaker 3: to like the journeymen at the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the rosters.

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Speaker 3: They had that good chemistry going, and as we saw

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Speaker 3: last year, it flowed into the regular season a little bit,

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Speaker 3: so fingers crossed. Able to do the same thing this year,

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Speaker 3: but still a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: Springer's back, baby. This smell of fresh cut grass, huh.

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Speaker 1: The vendors yelling out in the stands ice cool. Our

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Speaker 1: childhood love is back once again.

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Speaker 2: Man, Look, we didn't have to look. Let's look past

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Speaker 2: the fact that we had just one camera angle behind

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Speaker 2: home play. Right. Let's put it past that point that

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Speaker 2: we didn't have the transmission. Let's take the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that we were able to just simply enjoy watching

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Speaker 1: Major League baseball, like if we were at Roger Dean

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Speaker 1: Stadium all right here in Glenn Geffner narrate the game,

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Speaker 1: Kyle se Loft, the first game.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: It feels so freaking good to hear our Marlins back

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Speaker 1: on the transmission waves seeing them play baseball. And if

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Speaker 1: that wasn't enough, Like we had so much excitement going

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Speaker 1: into the spring training camp.

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Speaker 2: The second base.

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Speaker 1: Battle, and what a way to begin Jazz Appo Taco

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Speaker 1: baby right immediately, What second pitch of the game.

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Speaker 2: So that gave you a lot of excitement to see Jazz.

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Speaker 2: He's the future. He's knocking on the door.

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Speaker 1: He's given that competition an so you love that competition,

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Speaker 1: seeing that competition inside the team.

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Speaker 2: The same can be said about the first base position

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Speaker 2: and the catcher. But man, what a way to get started, huh,

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Speaker 2: Jazz that.

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Speaker 1: Home run and then Eson, he's been playing top Nutch

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Speaker 1: defense today.

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Speaker 2: He made a hell of a play. It was a seven,

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Speaker 2: four to three.

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Speaker 1: Corey Dickerson to Eon to first and they got the

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Speaker 1: first Mets runner of the game.

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Speaker 2: They got him.

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Speaker 1: They erase them immediately as soon as he round the

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Speaker 1: first base on a heads up play by Eon. So

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Speaker 1: I was questioning myself. I was like, Yo, does Eson

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Speaker 1: make that play? If he doesn't have that competition with Jazz.

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Speaker 3: It's really interesting if you want to read between the

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Speaker 3: lines really closely. Madden Lee has been saying throughout the

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Speaker 3: spring we're going to bring these guys on pretty slowly.

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Speaker 3: That most of these players that they start one game,

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Speaker 3: they're going to get the next day off and vice

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Speaker 3: versa and really ease into it. Buton and Lewis Brinston

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Speaker 3: first two games, so both of them in the field

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Speaker 3: for those two games. And I don't think that's his

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Speaker 3: total coincidence. Those are guys that have a lot to

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Speaker 3: prove that year, probably in probably more than anybody else

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Speaker 3: because for a variety of reasons, not going to do

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Speaker 3: much at all last season. Now in that competition with Jazz,

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Speaker 3: and if you want to like split hairs between the two,

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of the pretty obvious advantages, at least

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Speaker 3: what we thought that Jazz had over Eon is the defense.

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Speaker 3: We saw Jazz play defense last year at well second

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Speaker 3: base and occasionally at shortstop. And he's he's highlight reel

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Speaker 3: every single game. He makes some special plays, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's still the case that he has some next

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Speaker 3: level athleticism that Eson and most other guys can't keep

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Speaker 3: up with. But it's been so far, so good. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this spring, they hooked up together on at least one

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Speaker 3: double play in that first game, and then, as you

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Speaker 3: I mean, they combined to do a shutout. When your

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Speaker 3: and behind him the other pitchers are Anthony bad Ross, Dettweiler,

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Speaker 3: credit goes to the defense. The defense really did step up,

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Speaker 3: that second base he was kind of shaky. If people

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Speaker 3: term if he's gonna be a liability on that end,

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Speaker 3: but he's doing everything in his power to flip that

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Speaker 1: Normally, I'd be a little bit more worried, right because

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Speaker 1: you're like, man, what's gonna happens on or Jazz? You know,

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Speaker 1: one of them is gonna eventually have to go down

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Speaker 2: You want them to continue to develop. That's the whole plan.

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Speaker 2: But it was just like, dude, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Like, thank goodness, we got we're a little bit back

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Speaker 1: to normal because we're having triple A, double, A single

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Speaker 2: Last year we didn't have that. You know, it was a.

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Speaker 1: Sixty game stretch. It was everybody, all hands on tech,

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Speaker 1: We had with over sixty players played for the Marlins

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Speaker 1: a lot more complex again, Like it's back to what

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Speaker 1: You know, Normally I would panic, it's like, damn, what

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Speaker 2: So thank goodness for that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you baseball guys, and thank you for the world

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Speaker 1: coming back to normal again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully.

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Speaker 3: I mean they announced everything, they're trying to move everything

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Speaker 3: Is still some caution about whether everything's going to go

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Speaker 3: it's a different business model. I mean, with these major

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Speaker 3: minor league teams, I mean, they're all technical. Most of

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Speaker 3: in the spring when they could loosen up the attendance restrictions.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's going to be the key.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly how many people these local cities and states

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Speaker 4: You know, when Florida, we're seeing a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of twenty five, twenty thirty percent in some cases

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Speaker 3: pretty eager to get things opened up. Yeah, the question

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Speaker 3: first home game of spring training, we got the announced

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Speaker 3: definitely a refreshing change from where we were last year,

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Speaker 3: not having you had noise in the ballpark all throughout

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Speaker 3: last season, but most of it, well all of it

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Speaker 3: it is is natural and the players respond differently to that,

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Speaker 3: it feels like more a real event. It feels like

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Speaker 3: there's more at stake, even when these are just there's

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Speaker 1: I love how how you know the fans are finally back.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that we had the artificial sound last year

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Speaker 2: But dude, today, today's some guy yet that the umpire.

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Speaker 2: Like, Dude, you love saying that.

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Speaker 1: You love seeing the heckling, the one on one, the interaction,

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Speaker 1: like the human errors and letting the letting the fans,

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Speaker 1: let the umpires know when the players know, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The Phillies got booed out the house

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Speaker 2: I'm happy that that they're getting booed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Marlins have been you know, Marlins fans aren't

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Speaker 3: of overachieved last year. But they've been pretty much perfect

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Speaker 3: the nasty mood. Yeah, there's really nothing at all to

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Speaker 1: He was a staple on this lineup and he's going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one man. Being in Venezuelan bros

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. Hey, real quick man.

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Speaker 2: You know I love that we have this logjam at

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Gary Cooper, we talked.

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Speaker 3: That might be pushing. Oh oh, we were talking about Leah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: important thing over this next month is years making sure

438
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Speaker 3: those guys stay as healthy as possible.

439
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, the reason I like, I don't want people

440
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,719
Speaker 1: to get it twisted and misunderstand why I brought that up.

441
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: And trading one of these guys is like, I don't

442
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 2: want to trade them. You know what I'm saying. I

443
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: want to give them every single opportunity. I want see

444
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 2: them Martley to win. But the only reason why I

445
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 2: even bring up that question is just because you look.

446
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 2: Look at the minor leagues. Bro, you got guys. Knock

447
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: on the door, you got guys.

448
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: We talk about Monte, he needs playing time, like cam Mizner,

449
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: Payton Verdict. People forget about Gerari and Karnassion.

450
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, These are all outfield, the

451
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 2: guys that Connor Scott, you know what I mean, Like,

452
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: these are all guys that eventually have to get playing time.

453
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: JJ play. He just missed the opposite field. You know

454
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like our first round pick from twenty nineteen.

455
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: So these are all guys that are eventually gonna have

456
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: to get playing time.

457
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: Kim said it.

458
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh, we want these guys to develop and play, right,

459
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: So let the kids play, Griff and Conine, Let's let's

460
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: see the kids play.

461
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm all for it.

462
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to lose. But at the same time,

463
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: we gotta be realistic about our options too. That's why

464
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 2: I threw it out there. Hey, louse, you my guy.

465
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: It's funny that the little thing you slipped in there

466
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 3: people forget about Gerari and Karnacion. Here's been two games

467
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: at the spring training and he was a little bit

468
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 3: behind schedule because he had I believe some visa issues

469
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: coming back from the dr that he's going to be

470
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: joining them for games, hopefully later this week. But it's

471
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: been two games and they've seen all the outfield prospects

472
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: playing these games except for Girar, and all of a sudden,

473
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: he gets overshadowed by them because they put the other

474
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: guys in and JJ blode hits a home run, and

475
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: Meisner he scored a run today on Aguilar's home run.

476
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: The fact that in Verdict finally seening Peyton Verdick, the

477
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: guy that the Marlins organization has been hyping up constantly

478
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 3: throughout the winter. He was in trade negotiations, but they

479
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: reportedly and yet they didn't want to give him up

480
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: because they believe so much in his potential. So you

481
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 3: see all those guys on the fields, even in these

482
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 3: spring training games, and it puts them top of mind

483
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: for you. But Girar is coming. They really like Gerar.

484
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: He's on the forty man roster. He's a guy that

485
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: could be making his debut before the years over. Has

486
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 3: as much raw power as anybody in the organization. Drawing

487
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: those comps to Gean Carlos Stanton for the way that

488
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: he's built. But even if those are turned out to

489
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 3: be a pretty big exaggeration, Yeah, they are absolutely loaded

490
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: at that position.

491
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: Mags, Mags Sierra, Come on, Mags, you know what I'm saying.

492
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: He's he's gonna drop the bunt like this.

493
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: This is a guy that he's gonna bring like more

494
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: options to the team as well, like Louis Brinson. Like, dude,

495
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: we got a surplus of outfielders and it's like a

496
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: really good problem. Got a surplus of pitching, Like it

497
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: just feels good to say we got a surplus.

498
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: And like talent.

499
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Speaker 1: Yo, shout out to the front office, Derrek, Jeter, Kim,

500
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: Gary Den Bo.

501
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: Y'all doing it man, y'all doing it.

502
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: We all our way, And you know what, I'm gonna

503
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: keep it a thousand with y'all guys. You know I'm

504
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: saying everybody wants to go out here, and we want

505
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: to think why not us?

506
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: And I just go out there and surprise.

507
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: And if it happens, great, But damn man, the NL

508
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: East is a freaking monster. You look at the additions

509
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: the Mets had and Francisco Lindor right, all the Carlos Carrasco,

510
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: all these great pieces that they added, the Phillies, you

511
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they're a team, they're pulling team.

512
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: The Braves are still a team that people like. They

513
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: You can't sleep on them. The Washington Nationals or World

514
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Series champions a couple of seasons ago, you know what

515
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean?

516
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: Like, dude, it's it's.

517
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Gonna be a hell of a fight for last place

518
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: in the cellar. So I don't expect it to be

519
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: like whoever ends up in last place is going to

520
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: be in last place by ten fifteen games. Now.

521
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: I expect everybody to be getting together in a pack.

522
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Eli, you think we're

523
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: gonna be Where do you think we're gonna be? I

524
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be towards the maybe four fourth place.

525
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm somebody that likes to wait to

526
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: end us fructionating just to see who's healthy, who's not,

527
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: who shows a little something extra, who maybe is taking

528
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: a little step back for making predictions.

529
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: But I was on that.

530
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: We did like a pod collaboration with Fish Across the

531
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: Pond for the guy from UK Peter Prett and Fish

532
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 3: on the Farm Alex Garver, and they kind of reeled

533
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: me into making a prediction, and at the moment I

534
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: went with seventy four wins. Seventy four in eighty eight, which, yeah,

535
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: the way that this division lines up, that's maybe fourth place,

536
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: more likely fifth place that and even though it's an

537
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: improvement from where they were in the first couple full

538
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 3: seasons under this rebuild, I mean, first year almost lost

539
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: one hundred games, second year lost one hundred and five games,

540
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: so it's an improvement from that. But all those other teams,

541
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: the keys that they're just so motivated, Like you can

542
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: look at all the names on the roster and sometimes

543
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: we get a little overwhelmed by those names, a little

544
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: fixated on the back of the baseball cards and on

545
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: the marketability without actually analyzing what the players can do.

546
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: But even when you actually dig into it, that all

547
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: these teams, even if they even if they have a

548
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: couple of players that disappoint, even if a couple holes

549
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: open up as the season goes on. These are teams

550
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: that think they can win now and they're teams that

551
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 3: you could see spending in the middle of the year

552
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 3: to make upgrades. They're going to be aggressive in the

553
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: trade market. The Marlins last year were aggressive in the

554
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: trade market, got Starling Marte to kind of tie their

555
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 3: team together. But that was an exception that was huge,

556
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: and that's the kind of moves that are probably going

557
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: to make the difference at the end of the year

558
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: in this division or the Marlins. Do they have another

559
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: one of those moves in them, because we talked about

560
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: it over the offseason. This team, they brought back the

561
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: band together and that's nice. They didn't really spend money.

562
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: I mean, this is at the moment projected to be

563
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: one of the lowest payrolls in baseball, like sixty million dollars.

564
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: And we know this is this team operates as a

565
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: small market team for the moment because coming off a

566
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: really rough year financially in the pandemic and the fact

567
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: that you know, attendance is what it is even when

568
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: under normal circumstances TV deal. They I mean, they have

569
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: reasons for that, but the bottom line is that that

570
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 3: gives you more margin for error that lets you correct mistakes.

571
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: They pop up and plug holes with the best players

572
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: have become available on the trade market. Are the Marlins

573
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: going to be able to make that kind of move

574
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: to bring in another player of like Starling's caliber if

575
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: it's they find the right veterans starting pitcher. You know,

576
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: that's a big hole that I still am not satisfied

577
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: with with this team is that they don't have that

578
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: guy that's really been through all the battles before in

579
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: the rotation that you could trust to give you a

580
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: huge workload if the right guy pops up as the

581
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: season goes on, or do they have the backing from

582
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: ownership to bring in that guy or you know, whatever

583
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: position it is that they want to address, whether they

584
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: finally want to move on from Jorge L. Farrow and

585
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: upgrade at the catcher position. Yeah, do they have that

586
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: commitment from ownership? And do they have that Do they

587
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: have that same motivation because all these other teams in

588
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: the division, the Phillies and the Braves and the Nats,

589
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: and more so than anybody else, probably the Mets that

590
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: all these teams are. They see their window open right

591
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: now to win that chip. And for the Marlins, they

592
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: when they look themselves in the mirror, they're probably thinking

593
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: the best days of us are still a little bit

594
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: down the road. They want to own this whole decade,

595
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 3: but they're not going to do anything extreme in twenty

596
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: twenty one to potentially jeopardize what they're trying to build

597
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: long term.

598
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. One hundred percent.

599
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I think that our window is going to be probably

600
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Speaker 1: maybe next year, a couple of years from now, you

601
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That'll be like our window to

602
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: like let's rock and roll.

603
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: The Mets will be older, the Phillies will be older.

604
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: You know. The Braves got a sweetheart of a deal

605
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: with Marcelo Zuna, and Jesus, I thought he was gonna

606
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: get more money. You know, come on, are you surprised.

607
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna get at least.

608
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 4: Over one hundred I'm a little bit surprised.

609
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: Early in the offseason I joked that Marlin should bring

610
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: him home four years, sixty six million dollars. And I

611
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: mean when I when I put that out, the understanding

612
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: was that that would be a great bargain, and it

613
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: turns out that almost exactly what he got, he got

614
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: a little bit less than that.

615
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: I got four in like sixty four, four and sixty.

616
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: Five, So I was, yeah, a little surprised. I thought

617
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: he would get The length of the deal feels about right.

618
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: The four years. I just thought he'd get definitely more year.

619
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: I thought he'd be easily north of like seventy five

620
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: million dollars.

621
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: So that's that hurts.

622
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to compete against him nineteen times

623
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: this year. That's a pretty big chunk of your schedule

624
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: that you're facing the braves and he's not gonna be

625
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be the MVP caliber

626
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: hitter he was last year. Last year was everything going

627
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: his way. That there's more ups and downs over the

628
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: course of a full year. Either way, he's he's gonna

629
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: haunt them him And I mean it's the same thing

630
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: with a real milchow returning to the Phillies. He got

631
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: even he got a better deal for himself five years,

632
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: about one hundred and thirteen million dollars. Congrats to him,

633
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's the same effect on the Marlins. It's

634
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: in your division for the next handful of year, a

635
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: guy that's riding his prime that they know more than

636
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: anybody else what he's capable of. And if all less,

637
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 3: the Marlins eventually are in that position where you know

638
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: they lock up their own guys that if you let

639
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: them hit the open market like that, you have the

640
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: jeopardy of having them like face you head to head

641
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: for the foreseeable future. It's yeah, it's rough, it's it's

642
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 3: really daunting. It's intimidating to see those names, even and

643
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: at this stage of their career you expect a lot

644
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: of them. Maybe they're not the same guys later on

645
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: in those contracts, Like you were saying a couple of

646
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: years down the road that it's you see a clearer

647
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: opening that those teams take a step back that you

648
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: expect the Marlins to take a step forward with all

649
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: these prospects finally like realizing their ability that all this

650
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: in most cases, this is cyclical. That's how it works.

651
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: You know, you have your golden years, you try to

652
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: take advantage of them, and eventually there's enough competitive balance

653
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: set up that you come back down to earth. So

654
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: a little bit more patience, I think until this team

655
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: really hits its stride.

656
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: Hey, you said the Phillies. We already mentioned that they

657
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: got voot already of the first game. Hey, man, I

658
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: was gonna say, I.

659
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Love the Marlins. Man, I love everything that they're doing.

660
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: I love that we can be like growing ups about

661
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: this conversation, but at the same time, enjoy this ride.

662
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a wonderful ride to continue to

663
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: see these guys develop and grow and blossom into major

664
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: League Baseball players.

665
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: That being said, man, I can't wait to see the

666
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: opening day lineup. I'm gonna go out on a limb.

667
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Think Sturdy Marte is a leadoff hitter.

668
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: Well, I guess we should point out the Monday's lineup

669
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: That may have been a pretty good preview. Just to

670
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: give everybody's memory if they didn't see this game live,

671
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: listen to live the lineup they put out on Monday.

672
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Corey Dickerson lead off, Starling Marte number two, aguilar iie

673
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: to Ball four, Brian Anderson five, Roja six, Isan seventh,

674
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: Alfaro eighth and bring Diesel ninth. Now that was with

675
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: the DH too, you know, and assuming we're going in

676
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: the direction we're going, pitchers got to hit ninth. But

677
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: for those top eight, that's a possibility that they do

678
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: it exactly like that. You know, sometimes you get a

679
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: little suspicious that they're just trying to tease us trick us,

680
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 3: but I mean, maddingly, that's usually not his style. If

681
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: you remember, like last spring. Last spring, pretty early on

682
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: in spring training, he was putting together lineups that seemed

683
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: pretty legit, and as it turned out there there was

684
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: a lot in common once you actually like fasted forward

685
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: to the summer in the regular season, I mean, Dickerson

686
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: is one of the few lefties in the lineup, and

687
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: yet you put him first. You know, maybe you want

688
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: to put him further down, one because he's coming off

689
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: a shaky year, and two just because it allows you

690
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: more variety for later in the games to have lefties. Right,

691
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: he's back and forth like that that maybe you're not

692
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: putting him in the best position all the way up there.

693
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy that I guess he's word

694
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: to mention Dickerson just because he was a disappointment to

695
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: just about everybody last year, But there were he mentioned

696
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: it a little bit as the season was going on

697
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, and he revisited it to the media,

698
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: like speaking last week that there was just some personal

699
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: stuff going on in his life, lost his grandfather tragically

700
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: and just had other personal pressures in the midst of

701
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: the pandemic that he thinks contributed to it having what

702
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 3: was his worst hitting year of his career, and if

703
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: you hope that most of that is now behind him.

704
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: That it's hard to really project this stuff. It's really

705
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: impossible to know how people react to this, but he's

706
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: someone that could be a bounce back candidate, just as

707
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: disappointing as things went for him in twenty twenty, that

708
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: he's someone that could exceed a lot of expectations this year.

709
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: He has a great track record, and they invested a

710
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: lot in him on this contract. I wouldn't be shocked

711
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: if he turns out to be a guy that you

712
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: want batting the top order. You know, he gets overshadowed

713
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: by all these exciting outfield prospects we have coming up,

714
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: and he is going to be a free agent after

715
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: the year. More than likely this is going to be

716
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: his last team last year with Marlins. That doesn't mean

717
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: that he's lacking in any motivation, and he's someone that

718
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 3: things go right that he can frankly be an All Star.

719
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: He's a guy that could hit at that kind of

720
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: level for extended periods of time, and he's someone that

721
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: would help the team kind of exceed those expectations.

722
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys also want to gold Glove in the past,

723
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: so he can really have it all click and come together,

724
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: and this could be a key year for him. He

725
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: can have a monster year going to the free agency

726
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: for him and help his pockets out, you know what

727
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: I mean.

728
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: So that's how he has to look at it.

729
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: And people like yeah, myself included, I was disappointed in

730
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: the type of season that he had, you know, And yeah,

731
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: you said it yourself.

732
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: He was going through some personal stuff.

733
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: But a lot of people tend to forget that this

734
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: guy had a key home run in Game one when

735
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: he faced the Cubs in the in the playoffs, you

736
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

737
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: And but it was like clean slate again my guy, Corey.

738
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Corey, you know. So I'm excited. I'm excited. Man,

739
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an exciting season. It's gonna be fun.

740
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, this is he's going into free agency.

741
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: So this is another guy that can possibly be be flipped.

742
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: Come trade that line as well, we got pieces to move.

743
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna be a contender.

744
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: What did the Padres call and say, Yo, listen, Will

745
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: Myers got hurt or something?

746
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

747
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: They need to plug a hole. That's what That's what

748
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: they did years back. Remember when the Morlands had Korey

749
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: Ross ship them over to the Giants. He became a

750
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: postseason hero. Who knows, man.

751
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: Mary could maybe maybe Corey Dickerson becomes a postseason hero

752
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: for somebody else.

753
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: How he did it for us, you know what I'm saying,

754
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: And I wish him all all the best, man, Let's

755
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: go fish.

756
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: One thing I wanted to get to though, before we

757
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: tap out of this off the field, is that, I

758
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: mean the common thread between the Marlins. The last few years,

759
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: they dominate in spring training, and today was an exception.

760
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: They wore their white unis today for a home game,

761
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: first home game of the spring, but ordinarily they wear

762
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: those blue colors, but Lussi's blue color in spring training.

763
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: You see them in batting practice during the regular year,

764
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: but ever since the rebrand, we haven't seen them for

765
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: a real game once things get serious for this team,

766
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: even though maybe they should be. So that's something that

767
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: has been itching at me for the last couple of years,

768
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: and I'm not alone. A little petition that we've had

769
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: going on fist stripes and on social media hashtag wear blue,

770
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: never Lose. That just seems to be how it works.

771
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: This team dominates whenever they are in that mindset and

772
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: in that color. Where you stand on that and how

773
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: important you think it is to get that into their

774
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: actual real uniform alternation once things start count for real.

775
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: Man, I'm all for it. We got to bring the

776
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: Miami blues out, you know what I'm saying.

777
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: When Derek Jeter and Bruce Sherman talked about the whole

778
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: new look, the concept the Caliente red come.

779
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: On, man, we got excited about it.

780
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Is the Miami colors junto of Miami or Colorees.

781
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: Remember that, you know what I'm saying? Like that was

782
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: our slogan and I'm all for it. I think that.

783
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Don Mattingly when he was being interviewed by Ethan Bodowski

784
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: the other day, he said, Yeah, the guys just love

785
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: the black, the black uniforms, and they look really cool.

786
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: They looked really fresh.

787
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: The only tweak I think I would make is I

788
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: would have like instead of just white bottoms, I would

789
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: have like white pinstripes.

790
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

791
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: Remember how the guys used to do it back in

792
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: O three when they would rock out the black with

793
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: the pinstripe pants. I think that was hot as matter

794
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: of fact, Like, I think once they put that into

795
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: the rotation along with the old school the classics, I

796
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: think we're gonna be good. I think we're gonna be great.

797
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't know why.

798
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't see why the Marlins don't rotate more of

799
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: their their their alternates, like all of them, Like let's

800
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: put them all on, like, let's show off what the

801
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: history of the Miami Marlands of Florida Marlins is. Like

802
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm all for it to pull out the Florida hats.

803
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if we I want to go as

804
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: far as pulling out the orange stuff again, let's take

805
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: with that. But you get what I'm saying, Like how

806
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: sweet would it be to see the guys again rocking

807
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: the retros, like not necessarily the ninety seven stuff, but

808
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: like maybe oh three, maybe go till all TiAl, like

809
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: the Andre Dawson type of days, you know what I mean?

810
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: So right, So this is one thing that has been

811
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: complicated because of the ownership change, where you know, the

812
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: mantra from Derek Jeter hasn't He never really says it

813
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: out loud, but you can read between the lines that

814
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: he just wants to be everything that Laio was not.

815
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: He kind of.

816
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 3: As much as he sees the history and he knows

817
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: the championships, you know, first hands, he saw the Marlins

818
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: win a title, that O three title as an opposing

819
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: player that for the most party, wants to start everything

820
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: fresh and build it up in his under his own

821
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: principles and values. That was what the rebrand was about.

822
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: And overall pretty popular rebrand decision. And that being said,

823
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: not quite as much that they've been doing to honor

824
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 3: that history, and they've made some exceptions that have gone

825
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: well overall, though you know, that's something that's kind of

826
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: out of his comfort zone and that kind of goes

827
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: against his principles because it happened before he got there.

828
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: But this just seems like, at the very least, when

829
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: you already have this blue UNI that is part of

830
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 3: your wardrobe, that this is already something that you guys

831
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 3: are proudly wearing throughout spring training in batting practice before

832
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: the regular season games, that it doesn't really seem like

833
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: much of an ask to actually wear it during the

834
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: games themselves. It's not just even Marlins fans like you

835
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: see it outside. You see it from people on opposing teams,

836
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: people that don't even have a rooting interest. That when

837
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: you reach those people and you get them commenting about

838
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: how much they like it and how confused they are

839
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: that they don't see it, you know, when the lights

840
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: are brightest and when everything actually gets decided on the field,

841
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: that that just makes me even more confident that we're

842
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: kind of in we're on the right path here, and

843
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: we're seeing we're seeing something that forever reason the organization

844
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: hasn't quite budged on yet. But yeah, once they do,

845
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: once they do, I got nothing else to complain about, really,

846
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: because things are going pretty well overall.

847
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: Touch it back real quick on the old ownership. On

848
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: the Pass ownership, Just for the record, the old regime

849
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: had to pay five point five million to the City

850
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: of Miami and Miami Dade for selling the stadium, So.

851
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad that the city was able to at least

852
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: get some money, But damn, what's five and a half

853
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: million aftery, So for one point two billion, do that's

854
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: nothing slapping a risk, man, I saw.

855
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: I was loosely like following that because that that's been

856
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: out there for a couple of years now. As soon

857
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: as they sold the team in twenty seventeen, it was

858
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: both the county and the city. I think part of

859
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: that money went to the county and part of it

860
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: went to the city, saying not so fast. We're supposed

861
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: to have a deal here. You built that stadium with

862
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: our money, we're supposed to get part of Yeah, that

863
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: the sale price in return, and I think initially the

864
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: settlement was going to be a little bit lower either

865
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: in the two to three million dollar range. So they

866
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 3: kept pushing and they got a little bit more for themselves.

867
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: Was a small victory from that aspect. Lauria has been

868
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: pretty quiet, pretty right.

869
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: Why'd you have to say his name? Man?

870
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: With everything going on without him, it's it's it's been

871
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: I've been surprised how totally quiet. Not just him directly,

872
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: but we don't really know even what he's thinking. Watching

873
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: this from far and seeing how things have changed without him,

874
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: it's just it's night and day. It's a big contrast

875
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: and styles.

876
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: For sure, I'm like the happiest Martland fan. Like before

877
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: I was like a disgruntled Marlins fan, you know what

878
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like the guy from Major League Yo, tear

879
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: the place down. Let's turn this place into a parking lot,

880
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That was my mentality sometimes

881
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: when they would blowing in the passer geam and all that,

882
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: and like rightfully, so, man, we had a super squad

883
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: team and we couldn't do anything right.

884
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: We had those doing a yell legist and everybody knows anyway,

885
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: talking about a little bit of this and that, you know,

886
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. We talked about Lewin playing

887
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: in the Dominican right and how he has a chance

888
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: to play with Robinson Cano. And this really like grinds

889
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: my gears that Robinson Cano can still play like baseball,

890
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: like on an international level, Like how is my guy

891
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: like playing in the Caribbean Series and he helped the

892
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: Dominican win like secure the Caribbean Series championship and Dominicans

893
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: a champion again, like congrats to them, but like, dude,

894
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 1: like if you get to ended in the Major League

895
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Baseball for.

896
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 2: Steroid use, you know what I'm saying, like dang, dude,

897
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: like that that's a big Like that's a big f up.

898
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: Seriously, like this is not this is the second time

899
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,959
Speaker 1: it happens to him, and it's like I'm not trying

900
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: to like bash on him, like I'm a big Robinson

901
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Cano fan.

902
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm just disappointed like on his actions and what happened.

903
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: Everybody makes mistakes, but like damn, I think like Major

904
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: League Baseball really needs to come and put the hammer down,

905
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: like this should be like some International Baseball Committee or

906
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: something like that that says, dude, if you can't play

907
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, so your your suspension is over,

908
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: your term is over, and you can't play in the Caribbean,

909
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: you can't play in Korea, you can't play man, you

910
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: can't play anywhere, dude. Because it's not a good example.

911
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: How are you still in dr raking kicking ass and

912
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: it's like.

913
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: Nothing happened. You know what I'm saying. I don't know.

914
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't It doesn't sit well with me. You know

915
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

916
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be people that's gonna come at

917
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: me or whatever. Take it how you want it. You

918
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm still team Robert Canoe, but

919
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: damn everybody knows you have to I'm keeping a wand.

920
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm in disbelief that this is coming from you,

921
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: mister Anti Manfred, that baseball is already doing too much

922
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: and taking control of the game and the wrong ways.

923
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: That Major League Baseball isn't all baseball. You know, there's

924
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: more to the sport around the world than just this league.

925
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: That you know, it has the best players in the world,

926
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: and it is one that we obviously follow more closely

927
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: than anything before. But there is, as you mentioned in

928
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: the in the Winter Ball and across the world in

929
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: Japan and Korea and Taiwan, that there's there's a whole

930
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: lot more to this game around the world than just

931
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: what happens in MLB that there are that's the whole

932
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: reason why those leagues exist. That those are the leagues

933
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: that not just with steroid guys, but other ones that,

934
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: for variety of reasons, just fall out of favor in

935
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: the major leagues, that they get a second chance or

936
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: a third chance in these other leagues and they thrive

937
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: in it. You remember Delman Young. Delman Young was in

938
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball for over a decade. He was a

939
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: pretty good run producer, kind of a one dimensional player,

940
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: and he declines kind of all of a sudden in

941
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: his late twenties early thirties. He's been over in Australia

942
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: for like the last three years. He's raking in Australia

943
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: and creating a new life for himself over there. It's

944
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: mostly just it was mostly just a winter Bault. But

945
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: that's just one example of these guys that kind of

946
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: find new life once they get outside the MLD orbit.

947
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: And like I said, I like the fact that there's

948
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: some separation between these different leagues, and some of these

949
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: leagues do it better than Major League Baseball in different ways,

950
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: whether it's with their rule changes or whether it's with

951
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: their gameplay style. That, yeah, I think we should embrace that,

952
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: and not necessarily there's certain things, of course, that player

953
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: could do that a person can do that can make

954
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: them unemployable.

955
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: For sure.

956
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily put a positive ped test in that category.

957
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: I think you're talking about more heinous crimes that would

958
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 3: be more disqualifying. Yeah, that being said, I yeah, I'm

959
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: totally fine with, you know, seeing him making something of

960
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: himself during this year away from baseball. Sacrifice, losing his

961
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 3: whole salary for his mistake during the twenty twenty one season.

962
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: So I don't as someone that also roots for Cano

963
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: in particular, that this always really liked his game, liked

964
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: his swing, liked his consistency year in year out. Yeah,

965
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 3: I got nothing against him.

966
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: It all went downhill when he became a met Hey

967
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: real quick man.

968
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: We were having this conversation, man, a couple of things

969
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: came to my mind. You were saying, Australia. You know

970
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: who's out there playing ball in Australia, Manny ram Mary's

971
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: how cool is that one of the baseball goats? Like

972
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: obviously he's part of the whole steroid scandal. Two should

973
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: definitely be in the Hall of Fame. But whatever, Man,

974
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: that's a whole different subject to get into. And then

975
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: to finish off the whole thing that we were talking about,

976
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: there should be like an International Baseball Committee or something.

977
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: You ever played the game FIFA?

978
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I think I came up with

979
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: like a cool idea. Right.

980
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: The concept would be like an international like you just

981
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: play any team from any league, right, Like you can

982
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: pick the Marlins versus you know what I'm saying, the

983
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: team from Korea or a team film.

984
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: That would be epic. I think it would be cool,

985
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: like you can play like on some online stuff. Come on, man, hey,

986
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: whoever you are, contact, let's make it happen. Yeah, you

987
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to play it.

988
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: You want to probably definitely discover like a whole different league.

989
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: You would see like, oh, all right, I'm gonna play

990
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: in the Dominican League and you play with the Dominicans

991
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: Dominican squad. I don't say that necessarily that they need

992
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: to have like all their player names. They could do

993
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: it like the old school EA way and just have

994
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, just number twelve.

995
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That would be cool. Come on, hey,

996
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: damn look at us. Man.

997
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: You heard it here Marlin's Barbecue. This is what happens

998
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: at the barbecue. Good things happen. You crack a prow.

999
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: You're talking with your boys, you're talking Marlin's baseball.

1000
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you peaqued my interest with that.

1001
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: I can see that working for sure.

1002
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: Mexico, Mexico Pacific League, they have a pretty big league

1003
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: out there as well.

1004
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Japan, Korea.

1005
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: He was a Joorge Can two with Team Mexico.

1006
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. And yeah, all the winter ball leagues

1007
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: that those when you really like dive into it, they

1008
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: have some passionate fans, They have some fans that have

1009
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: a they have a lot of history in a lot

1010
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: of those leagues. Some of them have been around. I

1011
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: mean we think about the Marlins. Marlins have been around

1012
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: since ninety three. I mean almost all these leagues have

1013
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: been around for way longer than that. In the DR,

1014
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 3: I think they've some teams in the Dominican that have

1015
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: been around for one hundred years, and I know when

1016
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: in Japan they've been going back generations.

1017
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: That for most of.

1018
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: These fan bases, they have a lot of history and

1019
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: it gets passed through the generations and people take a

1020
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: whole lot of pride in it. For some of these leagues,

1021
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: you know, they overlap with Major League Baseball other ones

1022
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: that if they're in the winter, you can kind of

1023
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: get the best of both. And it's really beautiful.

1024
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.

1025
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: I like the fact that, even though, like I said,

1026
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: we spend almost all our time all the Marlins and

1027
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: all the major leagues, that this beautiful game, it reaches

1028
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: all corners of this world and it is. Yeah, there's

1029
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: a lot more diversity than you might think at first.

1030
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us, ladies and gentlemen.

1031
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: This is Alex Contrella is signing out alongside Eli Sussman.

1032
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,600
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1033
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1034
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm the real ay con signing out. Eli, you wanted

1035
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: to say anything?

1036
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: He music and go fish