WEBVTT - Valentine's Day Special! 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.680 Hell I Suck a Dating with Denglert and Jared Haven, 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:10.520 and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to Help I 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.560 Second Dating. Everybody. My name is Jared Haven. I'm joined 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.280 not in studio, but in a house with Dean Unglert, 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:21.080 who's looking ravish right now. Uh. We have Tori joining 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:25.160 us right now as well. We're recording live from Lake Tahoe. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.720 In Where are we is Tahoe and Cali or Nevada. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.640 We're currently in California, but it's California. Okay, sorry, we 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.480 flew into Reno. We were in Nevada. Now we drove 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.720 to Lake Tahoe, which is in California and recording an 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.280 episode of Help I Second Dating on Valentine's Day, which 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.120 of course is a very special podcast. Why is that, Dean? 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.120 Uhcause it's because it's the biggest day about relationships with 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.479 the biggest podcast about relationship. Bowl relationships, super Bowl relationship, bro. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.960 It's a great way to put it, guys. Uh, yeah, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.800 we're happy to be here. A little squeak there, Dean 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:03.240 just reversed age by ten years. It's the super Bowl 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.720 of dating. I'm really nervous about this. Well, it's your 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.080 super Bowl for dating. You have a Valentine this year? Yeah, 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:09.600 it was the last time you had a Valentine. I 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.520 mean so last year. I went on a first day 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.880 on Valentine's Day. It's pretty interesting you went on a 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.039 first day Valentine's It was a little pressure or like, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.160 there's obviously a lot of pressure around it. Can we 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.959 start from the beginning? How did you meet the girl? 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.080 Did you sign a d M? All that just and 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.800 then how you selected Valentine's Day to be the meet up. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.039 Don't feel like it's weird to talk about past relationships 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.080 now that you're in a relationship. That's kind of how 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.960 I feel about it is weird, but you get comfortable 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.600 with it. It's within the confines of this because you're 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.560 talking as a story. I d M her I was 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.679 going on a trip. I don't want to do that. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.480 I would like to know for tips. Um I'll tell 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.160 you it was just it was some stupid thing. Anyways, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.400 we we had talked for maybe a few weeks beforehand. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.760 Do we know this person? And I was supposed to 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.880 go to Japan for three weeks and we know this 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.960 first time? I please finish the store. No, I want 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.800 don't know if we know this person. I don't think 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.360 you don't cry you're so cranky, right, I don't know 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.760 if you you could, you could, I don't know who 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.960 you definitely, I don't know the whole contact book other 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.160 people that. Okay, so you d MR. We probably know 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.720 where you were going to Japan. Continue. And the only 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.440 day that both of us were free to meet up 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.400 before I left your Japan, which is on February fifte 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.520 or sixteenth, was Valentine's Day. And so I was like, 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.360 you know what, I think we should hang out before 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.240 I go to Japan. And she's thought the same thing. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:24.800 And so we met up and yeah, it's good. What 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.079 made you want a d m R? I just thought 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.560 I thought she was pretty. I think I know who 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:29.880 this person is. I will not say it, but I 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:35.600 have a pretty blunder band. No, come on, I don't know. Anyways, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.200 have you guys ever done what's the weirdest thing you 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.679 guys have ever done on Valentine's Day? If if, if 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.679 my guess is correct, she's a blonde, But what does dance? 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.160 What's the weirdest guys ever done on Valentine's Day? Hold on, 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:46.800 I want to hear about what was the first date, Like, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.760 you went on a first date, how did you even 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.119 find a reservation? We went to just some random bar 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.480 in l a and paid arcade games. So it wasn't 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.960 like a dinner day. It was more of like a cash, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.400 grab a beer, play some games day. Yeah that was great, so, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.200 which is what I always encourage people to do on 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.120 first dates. Anyways. It's like, that's how you really get 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.560 to know someone is you have a couple of drinks. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.919 You got to like see them in an arcade environment 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.480 where it's like, oh, looka like if they like their 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.320 own games, it's game over at that point, you know. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.520 But if they're if they're playing ski ball, they're loving it, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.400 that's great. If they like pinball, probably not. It's not 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.160 gonna end well, right, it's not gonna be it's not 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.079 gonna end well. So pinball is the one with the 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:26.120 two sides, a little pull in, a little morble. That 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.800 guy could come up right behind you just slightly put 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.000 his hands on your hands, right. The romances there, But 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.040 I'm just saying that the actual game itself is just 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.800 horribly boring. Anyways, Yeah, it was a good day. We'll 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:37.960 have a couple of questions. One would you advocate going 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.560 on a first day on Valentine's Day. Um, you're right, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.160 because there was like an undo amount of pressure, that's 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.120 the question. But you're right to ask that question because 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.680 there was like an undo amount of pressure just because 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.760 it was Valentine's Day, like almost like there was an 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.960 expectation for things to carry on afterwards, which is fine. Um, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.480 I don't I kind of think that you feel the 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:57.840 same way. I don't know, we can get into it later, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.560 but I don't think that Valentine's Day is the most 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.480 important day, and like it doesn't mean much to me, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.960 you know what I mean? Neither. Um. But it's funny 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.640 because you always give me crap about how a girl 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.280 could misunderstand the things that I'm saying get excited about it. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.920 I think that a guy not taking Valentine's Day seriously, um, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.960 and then a guy taking a girl out on Valentine's 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.760 Day is doing exactly that. It's like if you take 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.040 a girl out on Valentine's Dy, but you're like the 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.680 entire time, you're like, like, I don't Valentine's Day doesn't 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.280 mean anything to me. That they could just in their 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.520 head and be like, oh well, he still took me 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.120 on Valentine's Day, you know what I mean? Yeah, I 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:28.839 could see that. I'd listen, if a guy takes you out, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.640 if anybody takes you out on a date on Valentine's Day, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.680 you were already probably assumed that they're being very serious 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.320 about it. Right Valentine's Day, Right, they're choosing to spend 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:38.680 it with you, even if it's the first date. The 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.560 fact that the fact that I got a date on 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.080 Valentine's Day, it was like reassuring because I was like, oh, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.360 she that means like she's fully single, you know what 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:48.760 I mean, Like, if you're going on a first day 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.680 on Valentine's Day with someone, that means that they're probably 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.200 not talking anyone else else, which is really like refreshing, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.039 because you know, you don't want to be one of 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.880 five guys that this girl is talking to, and vice versa. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.159 For her, I'm sure it was the same, like she 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.400 doesn't want to be one of five girls that me 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.760 or this guy is talking to. So that's like a 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.159 that's like a nice perk, a pro if you will 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:07.960 of dating someone or going on the first day on 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.520 Valentine's So when was the last time you were in 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.920 a relationship for Valentine's Day. I think two years ago. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.120 I think Leslie and I were dating for Valentine's Day's right, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.159 I forgot about that sky diving. Wow, what are you 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.680 doing with Kalen this shirt? You haven't you? You guys 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.599 haven't changed. Kiss. Well, we're in Tahoe with my great friends. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.840 That's what we're doing for Valentine's Day's pretty good. That's 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.920 like an old married couples Valentine's Day. I feel like 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.440 I feel like I had a So this morning I 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.480 got Ashley flowers and chocolates and got it for before 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.040 she woke up, so she woke up to it. And 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.880 then I wrote her a note this is here and no, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.559 this is in California before we left for the airport. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.520 But she has yet to read the note because we 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.920 woke up late or she woke up late and uh, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.720 we had to rush to the airport. So yeah, and 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.920 I wrote like a little letter for I always write 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.400 poems for. So they're rhyming. I'm a great rhymer. What 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.720 kind of rhyme scheme do you typically go with? A 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.960 B B A B A B. I don't really go 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.040 as long as the words rhyme. I'm good with it. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.280 So the last word of each sentence, I'm a very 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:10.640 likea what's that like? The what pia does? Anybody we're 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.320 talking about? Was this poem you wrote? Was it romantic? 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.000 Was it funny? Of course it's saying it's it's both. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.960 Like one of the lines, uh uh, I'll tell you 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.440 one of the lines right now. It says, uh, my 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.320 heart is a lock and you have the key. I 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.239 love you so much. I love you more than Tom Brady. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.880 That's funny, right, So it's loving and yet that's a 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.320 spoiler alert for Ashley. Hopefully she didn't hear doesn't listen 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.200 to this, She hasn't read. She definitely doesn't listen to it. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:40.920 That's all right. When you really want to hear her 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.560 husband talk about dating you want? It's really funny similarity 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.039 that I can draw with that is in paradise. I 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.280 wrote Calin poems for her birthday, just at randomly, I 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.760 writer poems. And then right after that, yeah, but then 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.880 you came back. But the poems, the poems are the 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.120 most important to here. Let me ask you this because 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:56.839 as a guy, I was actually talking to another guy, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.360 and as a human being, you only have so many 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.159 tricks up her sleeve, you know what I mean, like 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.880 so many things you feel confidently. So have you written 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.560 poems or letters for other people in the past? I 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.320 want a poetry competition in high school? Okay, I meant 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.280 like in a significant loving um no, But I do 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.600 think that those, even if it's a horrible poem, I 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.000 think those are more meaningful than like the grandiose like 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.960 expensive dinner, you know, all that kind of stuff, like 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.720 like she's gonna read that and she's gonna be touched 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.240 by Ashley is going to read that and be touched 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.200 by it and laugh at it and feel more connected 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.840 to you through that than she would if you were, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.000 if you know, you were to go like some extravagant 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.440 date night count I think the flawful ones are won't better. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.240 I have a question, but we have answers. Do you 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.840 guys feel weird ever buying your girls now? Roses? I 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.920 would never buy, like do you go for daisies instead 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.000 of a rose? I think even before Bachelor, I was 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.400 always an anti rose guy. I don't buy her red 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.640 roses now because each color has a different meaning. Yeah, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.320 yellow means friendship, So would you buy her yellow. Um, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.880 she's my best friend one. But secondly, no, I bought 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:03.120 her orange, which I think is passionate or I think 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.560 that's like look it up orange orange. I think oranges. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.360 I like the the white pink ones very pretty. I 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.320 think those are like cute, that's what they defined. That's 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.160 cute anyway. So that's all you guys are doing. Well. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.880 Obviously we're kind of spending the whole day Intah together. Yeah, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.280 and then we'll actually and I will get a dinner 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.400 next week to kind of have like a romantic time nice. So, um, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.240 it is passionate romance. Okay, very well done. That's a 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:33.360 good one. Now here's my question though, because, like I said, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.480 I was actually talking to a buddy about this, and 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.080 as a guy, when you're in relationships, like I said, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.440 just throughout your dating history, even as a girl, you 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.360 have certain tricks that you do, write certain things that 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.719 you feel confident in doing. So my question is, say 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.040 you like write like write letters or write poems like 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.680 for example, if I wrote a poem or a letter 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.280 for a significant other in the past, should I feel 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.959 guilty in any way doing that? For Ashley? Now, should 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.719 I feel guilty towards as I see what you're saying, 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.480 like you're recycling your old because like she could easily 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:03.960 look at me and be like you used to do 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.920 that for someone else, Like yes, but like it's I 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.880 do different things too, but of course I'm going to 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.800 do some similar things. There's only so many things I 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.599 can do. So my question, I think it's weird. I 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.560 don't think. I think. I think you're very right about 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.520 if you're If you're good at something and you feel 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.240 comfortable doing it, and you know what makes the other 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.720 person feel special, there's no reason not to continue to 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.800 do it with new people later on. Weirdly, I would 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.360 hate it. Why I'd be like, pick up a new 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:36.920 pat like little uh little talent, sing me songs, but 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.000 don't give me a poem. If you've given poems to 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.080 girls in the past, trust me, if you heard me sing, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.400 you would not want me singing when you're in love. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.520 Anything's cute. Victorias sock puppet of herself and then make 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.360 another sock puppet of you and then do a sock 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.600 puppet show. I would love that. That would be different 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.320 than a poem. If you written love poems for girls 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.040 in the past and then for me, I would not 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.839 like that. Well, here's the question. If you didn't know it, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.880 you know, as I guess then when I found out, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.720 so like for your own exactly, so you would be pissed. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.360 I wouldn't like it. But here's the thing, like what 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.679 if the new thing that I do or the new 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.480 gift doesn't level up to that old thing where she's 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.679 like that poem was like the idea of writing new 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.600 letter is so much better than what you do now, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.600 you know what I mean here in my discarded tonail clippings, 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:23.960 Like what if those are the two things that are 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.080 comparing here or like you said, a sock puppet. I 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:32.920 actually you don't like like just the tonails. It's funny. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.120 It's funny that you bring that up because Alex b 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.520 who's my friend, he had the same thing. He was 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.200 dating a girl who like wrote something about it and 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.280 put it on Instagram and he was like, whoaa, don't 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.120 be sharing that because like that's the thing that I do, Like, 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.959 that's my thing that I do with the girl that 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.199 I'm interested in. And by doing that, it's like then 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.880 she's like then telling the world you know she did. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.960 It wasn't like she wasn't vidictive in doing it. But 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.720 she was like, this is what he did for me, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.360 and this is how pleasant it was. And he's like, well, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.760 this is what I do with everyone. Now you're kind 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.760 of like taking that away from everyone else. Let me 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.760 tell let me give you an example. So you want 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.480 to justify yourself, go for it. I don't think I'm 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.800 justifying myself at all. Actually, I think I'm digging my 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.200 own grave right now. But I'm doing it for suck. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:16.280 Army suck, suck, suck, sucks, suck, suck, suck, everybody suck. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:22.760 Okay uh. On Bachelorette, I wrote a poem for Caitlin 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.559 and they aired it. Did you mention the word love 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.160 in that poem? No? I ended it with a dumb 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.679 and dumber quote, which was I said, you know, at 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.640 the end of this, I'm gonna cross all my teas 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.760 and and all my eyes with the dot and I 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.360 just wanted to tell you, Caitlin, I like you. I 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.160 like you a lot, a lot, and so like whatever, right, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.679 I mean, at the moment, it was just like, that's 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.560 what I do, you know. I like expressing, expressing myself 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.000 that way so hard exactly right. There's a part of 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.240 me even when I do this, for actually like I 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.920 feel guilty, and I'm like, I shouldn't feel guilty like 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.000 that was in the past. This is the now, right, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.520 and obviously you're married Actuley Sait's different. But I just 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.400 can't get out of my head that i'd be a 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.480 little irritated. I think I see both sides of it. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.280 I think for me in my relationship, I don't think 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:12.719 it's hard for me to think back and think that 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.840 I've done anything now that I used to do another relationships, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.920 probably because I just never did anything in relationship before. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.559 So it's like everything I'm doing now is brand new, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.120 you know what I mean. That's hop out of a 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.640 boyfriend I used to be. That's that's the point that 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.800 I was trying to make used to be. I was 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.000 paused for laughter that I did not receive. Used well, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.000 he said used to because he's he's a husband now 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.920 now he's married, which is what I something I wanted 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.760 to ask about you to had a question, Tori had 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.079 to everybody's silent, Nope, just me and you, buddy. Uh. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.720 My question is there was articles coming out that I 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.920 was reading that said Klin said you proposed over in Europe, 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:53.480 please enlighten us question no that the articles quote unquote 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.360 was an Elite Daily article. Can get the exact quote 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.480 that referenced a comment that Calin responded to on her 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.840 most recent Instagram picture, which has since been deleted by 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.280 the original poster because people were attacking the poster. I 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.200 don't know, it was kind of silly. Anyways. She was like, 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.559 she was responding to a comment and I just took 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.800 her phone and I just wrote, he already proposed, he 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.079 already did. Oh so you wrote it. Yes, I wrote 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.560 this stupid comment. And I handed her the phone before 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.880 I pressed the post button, and she was like, yeah, whatever, 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.240 this is funny, and then she posted it so that 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:31.079 tapping noise you was tor tapping on Dean's apparent wedding 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.320 band that he's wearing. Tan you, guys, I might quit 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.720 this podcast if it's a continuation of teaming up on me. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.120 So you see, I like this. This is why I 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.920 need you as a third host. It needs to be 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.040 Dean so good with his words and so charming. I 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.040 need because I had a teammate to on one literally 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.400 Texas Danielle, and I said, can you please bring up food? 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.240 I think Dean's a little angry right now. Oh my god, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:56.960 you're cranky. Love. We're all here to just learn you're 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.880 not gonna wear rings. If you're gonna wear rings, and 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.400 you've got to kind of address I've done a lot 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.880 of driving in the past couple of days. Okay, I'm 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:08.960 a little tired. Who wrote the comment already? More moist? Pardon? 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.959 So you're the one who wrote the comment. He already posed. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.960 The comment was he needs to propose already, and Calin responded, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.120 he already did, and I wrote the comment he already did. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.560 Hand keel on the phone and she pressed the post button. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.880 I guess my question is, would Calin say you proposed? 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.720 My question is, how's my question? The Elite Daily write 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.480 an article about a comment that was responded like, it's 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.480 just you're grasping at straws there, you know what I mean. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.320 It's a great picture of you two on the Elite Day. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.440 I hate that picture too. I look, I'm a hunchback 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.960 of Notre damn. My hair like cuts off my shoulder, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.160 my buff shoulders too much in it, your shoulders rhythm. Look, 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:48.760 how do you feel when people are saying, oh, they're married, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.120 they're married? How when you first initially saw that or 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.960 you egg that on, do you kind of like that 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:59.360 he loves it. He let's see because he's been anti marriage, 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.560 but you kind of like seeing headlines saying marriage with 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.000 Dean and Kaylyn. I'll call kayl and my wife sometimes, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.480 like if I if I make a reservation at a restaurant, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:08.760 be like, yeah, me and my wife are going to 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.320 come in around eight, or we were at the hotel 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:12.680 or night. I was like, Hey, can me and my 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.200 wife get room service? Oh my god, are you married 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.480 any Jared? Did you just hear that? No? Sorry, I gotta, 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.040 I gotta, I gotta important text message. That's why. Sorry, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.280 he just said he refers to ye. That was as 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.040 his wife at I heard that the hotel reservation with dinners. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.520 Are you That's different though, because if you did you 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.920 ever call Ashley her your No. But I remember before 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.400 we before we even got engaged, there be times we'd 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:40.960 have hotels and they'd call and they'd be like, oh, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.440 Mr Kennetti, we are not downplaying this. We're not downplaying this. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.560 He's initiating the conversation by saying, my wife, it's not 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.320 being miss misunderstand. Sometimes you get like special privileges. When 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.840 you say that stuff, though, have you ever used it 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.920 to gain a special privilege? No, I just think it's 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.960 fun to say. I don't. I'm not gonna say whether 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.680 we're married or not. I'm going to keep a little 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.000 bit of my personal person this as your friend, as 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.960 as someone like yourself who doesn't believe in the institution 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.400 to marriage, and someone like Calin who probably does. I wouldn't. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.000 I wouldn't say it's fun calling you my wife, but 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.880 then also be like, I never want to get married. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:14.960 You know, we got a good we got a good 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.400 thing going on over here. I'm not I'm not too 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.880 worried about it. Please have Calin on this podcast. Absolutely not. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.640 We need to hear her perspective on things. Um, if 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.680 you want to hear what needs to happen, what needs 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.000 to happen over you already married? What's yours is mine? 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:33.200 The mine is yours podcast. I don't want to mix 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.280 business and pleasure. I have a lot of fun doing this, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:36.960 and I don't want to mix that business with this. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.920 What about our pleasure? We mixed business and pleasure all 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.840 the time being I'm saying this is the pleasure, she's 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.920 the business. Okay, that makes another joke that I feel 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.960 like my jokes. Okay, now it's one of those jokes 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.160 that it took me a second like, Okay, no, that's funny. Okay, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.160 I get that now, but yes, that's not gonna happen. Ever, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.920 I'm sorry. It's all right. Well, I guess we'll move 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.080 on from this conversation. We do have some incredible guests 0:16:56.080 --> 0:17:00.120 calling in. Uh. We have some licensed therapist, we of 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:06.040 an app creator called uh Relationship AI, and we have 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.800 some Bachelor Nation members. They're gonna stop by. We've got 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.119 some of your favorite Bachelor Nation uh uh contestants in 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.280 the house with us here in Tahoe. They're gonna swing by, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.440 give us their take on what Valentine's Day means to them, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.040 what they're gonna do for their significant other, etcetera, etcetera. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.040 You're not gonna want to miss that. To stick around 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:33.520 and we will be right back. Welcome back to help 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.879 I suck at dating live from Tahoe. We have very 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.600 special guests. That is on the line right now. She 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:43.720 has been seen on dr oz, HLN, Fox, ABC, NBC, ABC, Cosmos, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:48.840 Holton Post, Washington Post, Today, Bravo. Just to name a few. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.359 She's also a leading celebrity matchmaker, relationship expert and CEO 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.280 of Exclusive Matchmaking. It is Susan Trumpetty, Ladies and gentlemen. 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.359 Was that? How is that? Yeah? Sorry, we're just introduction. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:04.600 You know, I just tried to build people up, but 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.520 it's really not that hard to build you up, Susan. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.080 You have a pretty extensive resume. So thank you for 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.240 coming back on the podcast. Oh I'm so excited to 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:13.760 be here. You know, I love talking to you. Guys. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.840 Know you're actually in a car right now. You're not driving, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.480 but you have a funny Valentine's Day because today is 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.640 Valentine's Day. Uh, you have a little funny Valentine's Day story. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.399 Your car actually broke down on your way back to 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:28.239 your home. Yes, something happened. I just came back, um 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.920 from the airport, and to make a long story short, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.560 I had I realized, you know, because I'm not one 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.480 of those women. I realized I have no oil in 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.960 my car. I can hear my rod knocking, so I 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.040 had to call my Valentine's and he came to pick 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.320 me up. That sounds like a like a modern dating term. 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.359 Have you been Rod knocked. My rod's been knocking me 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:50.560 all week. Yeah, but you're you're beautiful and wonderful. Hobby 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.920 picked you up right, Yes, my told Arken Hansel, He's 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.879 like right here with me. He picked me up and 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.000 so then I kissed him really quick, and I said, baby, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:03.360 it's my rod. It's so little wingnu on. Your rod 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.800 came to pick you up after the other rod wasn't working. Yeah, 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.640 it's like, let's go home enjoy Valentine's Day. We can 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.800 worry about that later. Susan So. Okay, So, as a 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.240 celebrity matchmaker, what type of advice do you have for 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.960 your clients on a day like Valentine's Day? Okay? So 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.440 I always say, like, whether you're single or whether you're 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.280 with someone else, right with your with someone else, you 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.760 have to acknowledge it. Um, being single and Valentine's Day 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.600 is great for business for me. But don't you know, 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.040 at the end of the day, it's just another day, right, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.320 So don't go off the deep end if you're single, 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.359 I mean, have fun, acknowledge it. There's lots of love 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.400 all around you, whether it's romantic love or it's love 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.399 with your your gal pals, or you know, little kids 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.639 all around you, but it's an exciting day to flirt 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.280 and have fun. Right, So you see an increase in 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.600 clientele around this time of year because people are either 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.959 trying to find a Valentine's Day. Say it's Valentine's Day 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.120 and they're single. Do they reach out to you or 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.720 is it just like do you do with that? Do 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.520 you just basically, like you said, just tell everyone to 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.679 just treat it as another day. Let's say someone's like, 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.680 let's put you Let's give you an example. Let's say 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.879 someone's freshly in a relationship that maybe you set them 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:10.399 up on. Do they come to you it for advice 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.440 and then you kind of tell them what they should 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.439 be doing for Valentine's Day? Yeah? Yes, So I'll give 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.560 you an example. Okay, So I had clients that went 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.320 out on a date last night with a new woman 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.760 and a new match and he for whatever reason, okay, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.000 but I think it has something to do with he 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.560 doesn't want to seem like it's desperate. He's desperate and 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.600 it's Valentine's Day. She because oh my god, he must 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.240 not be interested. I didn't hear back from him, so 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.400 you know, I'm rushing down the road in the car. Okay, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.399 I hope no police were listening to this. So I 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.480 pull over and I say, look, it's Valentine's Day. She's 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.520 a dynamo. She's your match, even if you don't know 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.440 it yet. You need to text her now. And he goes, okay, 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.560 and I should ask her out, And I'm like, absolutely, 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.879 and you ask her out. So you have to acknowledge it. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.240 That's the first thing. And that's what I tell my clients, like, 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.480 don't let that go by. And then as far as protocol, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.800 do they get flowers, chocolates? Do they take them to 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.320 a nice restaurant? Like what is kind of the advice 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.080 that you typically like to give out to these types 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.560 of people that are either starting a new relationship or 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.840 hoping to start new relationship. Well, so I always say 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.680 acknowledge it. Okay, So if you're starting a relationship, there's 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.840 always like appropriate gifts for each point in time in 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.960 a relationship. So when it comes down to um, when 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.040 it comes down to like a new relationship and you 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:20.560 go out on a date with them, I mean, you 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.760 don't need to show up with a dozen roses, right, 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.359 but you can show up with something appropriate, something fun, 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.359 like those little kitty Valentine's cards, you remember them, And 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:29.720 I mean you can show up with that a box 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.399 of chocolates if you're only dating two or three months. 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.840 I mean, you know, perfume is always nice. If you're 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.360 dating six months, a little heart necklace. So you've got 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.560 to find the appropriate gift for the stage in your relationship. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.880 So you're saying it all comes down to timing. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:47.879 And I mean, like in this case, this guy, you know, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.800 it's too much pressure to go out on a date 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.359 on Valentine's They just met for the first time last night, right, 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.720 but yeah, definitely you need to acknowledge it. You met her, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.200 you know, make make a phone call to ur whatever, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:21:59.720 and I told me the text or in this case 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.159 because us, you know, everybody texts after a day and 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:03.880 said I had a great time, but I asked her 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.280 out again. Yeah. I would definitely not say you should 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.000 go on a first date on Valentine's Day. Too much, 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.840 too much pressure. If you're single, though, don't you just 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.919 want to hang out with your friends on Valentine's Day? 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.840 I don't think so. Really you don't want your susan Well, well, listen, 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.480 listen if you're single. It depends like, are you going 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.520 out with your girlfriends and having a great time And 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.879 there's nothing wrong with that, right, like going out in 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.200 Holland and having a great time and flirt with everybody 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:33.880 that passes your way, Right, Susan, what are you getting into? 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.680 So I just pulled in from New York, right, So 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:41.160 we're going to have a dinner. Okay, We're having a chef, 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:45.320 come in, light some candles, okay, and just you know, 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.560 we're just gonna enjoy because I tell you something, So 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.720 my day started off early with my husband because my 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.879 husband first called me. Always tell people this on Valentine's 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.520 Day and he was totally unaware. So anyway, so we 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.479 celebrate it. I can't even tell you half of what 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.520 we said today to each other, but it's been flirty 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.840 all day. Has been married, Oh so we've been married 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.320 fifteen years, we've been together twenty years, Okay, and it's spicy, 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:13.159 keeping it hot all day long with the emojis and flirtation. 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.640 And that's what was what emojis did you send him? 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.399 What was lot emoji sent him? Come on, give us 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:23.240 a hint. Is it purple, Susan? It sounds like we 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.320 gotta give you and your husband some space here. So 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:26.879 thank you so much for calling on the podcast and 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.160 giving our listeners some advice for Valentine's Day. It sounds 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.000 like you've got a fantastic night a heavy Thank you 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.960 so much, Susan, take care of happy Valentine's take, guys. 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.680 Nice talking to you. If for the listeners out there, 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.520 if you guys want to find Susan, you can check 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.000 her out on Twitter because she does live tweet, Bachelor 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.960 posts episode and all that kind of stuff. She does 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:50.960 have a website it's called Exclusive Matchmaking dot Net, so 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.399 be sure to go on and check that out and 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.480 see if she can help you out get matched and 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.520 find the Valentine's for next year. Since starting to it 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.080 for this year, Bachelor Live tweeter always a good follow 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.760 Take care of guys. Thank you. Well, sorry I didn't 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:13.000 know Susan was still Alie. All right, and we are 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.959 back and now we have Jamie Bronstein and Jamie I'm 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.359 sorry if I mispronounced the last name there. But for 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.600 the listeners out there, Jamie is a talk radio host 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.760 Love Talk Live. She has a licensed therapist relationship expert, 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:27.920 so she is the woman to have on the phone 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:31.119 for us today for our Valentine's Day episode, Jamie, how 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.360 are you? I'm doing? Wow? How are you guys? We're good. 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:35.879 Thank you so much for calling us. Obviously, we have 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.000 a special episode dating podcast. It's the biggest dating day 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.200 of the year, Valentine's Day. Help by second, Dating goes 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:48.240 together like like peanut butter and pickles. Peanut butter and pickles. Baby. So, Jamie, 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:49.919 So we're just gonna fire some questions at you. So 0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.320 being a love X, I'm gonna go ahead and label 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.639 you as a love expert. Okay, can you give our 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.320 listeners because we have listeners that are single, listeners that 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.960 are just starting in a relationship, listeners that have been 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.560 in a relationship for years, decades, however long. What type 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.399 of advice would you have for anyone out there the 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.720 different stages of gifts to give their partner, Like, let's 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.520 say you've been dating zero to six months, seven to 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.159 twelve months, what kind of gifts do you like to 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.200 see people give each other for Valentine's Day? Okay, zero 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:24.160 to six I would say go with something that you're 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.040 giving the message that you definitely are interested in the person. 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.040 Um and depending at the stage you're add like some 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.600 people get engaged within six months, you know, but definitely 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.040 keep it light but with a meaningful message. So you 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.240 can do jewelry. There's nothing wrong with jewelry. Um. And 0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:45.159 also the cards. I'm huge, huge fan of what you 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.240 write in the cards. So right, everything that you feel 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.080 that you're feeling, you know, don't hold anything back. So 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.880 i'd say good cards and jewelry is a good thing 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.480 for zero sex. I have, I have a question, so 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.399 I would I'm gonna go out on a limb here 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.360 and say that our listener base is predominantly female. So 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.040 as a female that's maybe interested in a in a 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.800 guy that's going on a date for Valentine's Day, what 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.120 do you like to see the women by the men? If? 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:13.040 Or if nothing at all? So I think it's really 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.879 important that you know, equal. We live in an equal world. 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:21.359 So yeah, so girls do something cute like get a 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.520 couple's massage. You can't even do it together, you know, 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.919 So do a couple's massage. Or I used to like 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:29.439 when I was saying, I used to always love like 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.919 surprising the guys. So do you like say I'm going 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:33.800 to take you out in date, I'm planning the whole 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.720 thing because a lot of times the guys planned the date. 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:41.760 So either like a surprise or even like a staycation 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.359 somewhere go to the beach if you live somewhere warm, 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:49.679 or just do something really romantic that involves both of you. 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.280 A lot of times girls can do like sexy lingerie 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.200 because that's the gift for both. That's a gift that 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:58.000 keeps on giving. Yeah, like a gift for yourself. But 0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.880 then also the guy likes it. Yeah, and then maybe 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.720 next years Valentine's you can you can say it's a 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.960 different guy, you could you know, Yeah, you can reuse it. 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.600 I do not recommend it if it's different to him. Um, 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.120 you said you're you said you're not single anymore, right, 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.520 but there is there is a big movement for Singles 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.960 Awareness Day. So what do you say for people that 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.960 are maybe experiencing the Valentine's blues that don't have a partner, 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.880 that want to celebrate their singleness. Do you have any 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.520 advice for them? Yes, just live it up, you know what, Like, 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.760 just be present and enjoy the moment because you're going 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.240 to find your person at some point, and by being 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.840 sad about it. It's it's kind of a waste of time, 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.439 you know, so eventually you're gonna meet your person. So 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.520 just live it up, go out with your friends, and 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.240 also think about it. The guys and the girls that 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.440 were at the singles bar the week before, they're still 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.159 going to be there. They're still single, and especially on 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:58.520 Valentine's Day, everybody's looking to hook up and maybe something more. Yeah, 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.280 distract themselves a little bit, you know. And this year specifically, 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.640 I feel like, uh, the planets have aligned because it's 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:10.439 Valentine's Day on a Friday, exactly. I mean, it's so 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.800 anybody who's listening, who's sad? Okay, unless your soul, feel 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.399 your emotions, feel the sadness. But then take a shower, 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.360 put the makeup on. If you're a guy, don't put 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.760 makeum on, but just you know, get yourself, put some 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.280 cologne on, put some air force ones. I think that 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.159 we should just get rid of Valentine's Day. I'm over 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.639 Valentine's Day. This is coming from a married man. I 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.240 don't think we should celebrate being single. I don't think 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.280 we should celebrate being a relationship. Every day should be 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.160 just a celebration or whatever you have. You know, I 0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.360 just Valentine's Day. There's so much pressure and you gotta 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.600 buy gifts and you spend money, and it's all this ridiculousness. 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.240 What are your thoughts about that? Do you? What? Do you? 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.680 What are your overall thoughts about Valentine's Day in general? Okay, 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.680 First of all, my name ji Ami means I love 0:28:55.720 --> 0:29:01.200 in French, so jam jamie, so I love love and 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.240 I love. Yes. I agree with you that every day 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.840 we should be appreciating who we're with. We should be 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.000 appreciating who we're dating. We should be appreciating the fact 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.400 that we will meet somebody someday. Um. And yes, I 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.000 understand it's a hallmark holiday, but it is like a 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.200 great excuse. Let's say you haven't gone on a date 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.320 in a while. It's an excuse to reconnect. So I 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.360 totally understand what you're saying. But I'm a big fan 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.200 of Valentine's Day. Interesting. I don't know if you should 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.840 need an excuse to reconnect. I think like every few months, 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.080 if you find yourself not reconnecting, you need to realize 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.200 we need to connect exactly. It could be a problem. 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.840 I always recommend to my clients who who are in 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.120 relationships and even just starting to date. Make sure that 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.040 you're going on a date at least three nights a week. Well, 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.360 that's what I mean, Like, if somebody needs a reminder 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.920 wanting here to reconnect, I think you have some bigger issues. 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.000 I agree that makes sense, and I do agree, But 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.120 there are like married people and then they have the 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:59.480 kids and then it's you don't have totally right. Well, Jamie, 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.000 thank you so much you're joining us. I'm sure you've 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.240 got your hands full of today, of all days of 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.240 the year. Given the fact that you are a love 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.040 guru for the listeners out there, be sure to check 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.800 her out on Love Talk Live on l A Talk Radio. Um, Jamie, 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.520 thanks so much for joining us and best of luck 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:17.080 with thanks for having me. Happy Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day, 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:18.680 what do we think so you want to just abolish 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.760 Valentine's Day altogether? It sounds like see, I feel like 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.120 Valentine's Day has turned into the opposite. No, it's no 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.200 longer about celebrating your partner now. I feel like Valentine's 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.920 Day is a holiday for singles to just feel bad 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:34.440 about themselves. So instead of of this day where if 0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.400 you're single, you just feel worse about yourself. Why not 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.200 just get rid of the holiday so everybody is still 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.480 happy in a relationship and you don't have to focus 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.760 one day out of the year solely about either you're 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.400 in a relationship or you're not, because, like, it's different 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:52.000 from other holidays because Christmas is about family, Thanksgivings about family, 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.080 so on and so forth, where Valentine's Day is solely 0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.440 only about intimacy love. So just get rid of it 0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.160 because it's just like, like I've paid a hundred dollars 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.600 for flowers today. You know you actually paid a hundred 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.719 dollars for flowers, well close to it. Still it's very expensive. Listen, 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.240 I'm just gonna say this. I think Valentine's Day is 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.560 incredibly important because, like I said earlier, it validates your 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.280 love for the other person, and the only way you 0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.320 can do that is by buying them expensive things, especially 0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.520 on inflated days of the year where that seventy dollar 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.600 bouquet flowers probably would have cost fifteen dollars. And the 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.520 other day of the year. You're really bad at being trarian, 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.880 You're you're you're proving my own point. I think it's great. 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.560 I think you can put a fiscal number. Uh, you 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.480 can quantify the value that someone has in your life 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.400 by how much money you spend on them on the day. 0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:42.360 Would you get absolutely nothing? What'd she get you anything? 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.440 She has actually did get her something, but it's waiting 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.959 for us back in Los Angeles. Shout out to Tahoe 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.600 because we're recording live from here in the beautiful North 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.720 Lake Tahoe. Is she got me something also back in 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.600 Los Angeles, so neither of us know what we got 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.760 each other. But you'll exchange gifts later. You guys did 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.600 the same to the Christmas. You exchange gifts way in 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.800 the way after. We're not really good timeliness. That's okay. Anyways, 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.760 we have another guest coming on, Karina Carston, who has 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:09.080 a new interesting app called Relationship Ai, which apparently is 0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:14.280 going to help us begin dating smarter, which I'm interested 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.480 to hear more about. And obviously she's probably got some 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.440 It's crazy how much dating stuff is out there nowadays. 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.680 This dating podcast, we have a million dating talk shows, 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:27.160 dating apps. From someone hosting a dating podcast. I probably 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.480 shouldn't say this, but I feel like it's too much 0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.800 because now we're getting into the stage where we're overthinking 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.560 dating and it never was meant to be overthought. You know, 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.400 you go, if you like someone, you continue seeing them, 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.760 and then you fall in love, or you don't fall 0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.040 in love and then the relationship ends. But now it's 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.200 this constant like well he said in a text this, 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.240 and but did he really mean that? Am I overthinking it? 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.680 I have to wait to respond? Or now we're getting 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.320 all these dates like literally how many dating terms have 0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:02.320 been formed within the past two years, like benching, bread crumbing, ghosting, 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.760 all these things, and it's like, maybe we're all just 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.720 overthinking it a little too much. I agree. But while 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.240 you're overthinking it, you might as well listen to this 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.240 podcast and just zone out, because we don't think much 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.040 when we're on here. Now we're just too idiots, few 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.840 nonsense and taho over here. Anyways, we're gonna give Karina 0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:16.760 call and see if you can get it on the 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:29.400 line here. Welcome back, suck Army. We have another special 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.840 guest on the line right now. She has her brand 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:37.360 new dating app, Relationship AI, which you can download today. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.280 It is Karina Carston Latest and Karina, thank you so 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.840 much for joining us on the podcast. Thank you so 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.800 much for having me. Have you heard that that pounding 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.120 sound in the background, That was apause sumping his thigh 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.720 for a ruckets applause Introducing you, Karina wasled the mic. 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.120 On one hand, it's very difficulty now we're not in studios, 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.160 so we can't get really have around of applause. But Karina, 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.760 how is your Valentine's Day going so far? It's amazing. 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.840 I'm actually up in Santa Barbara and it's a gorgeous 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.719 day and just loving, loving life here with my husband. 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:11.480 So tell us about your dating app relationship AI. So, 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:18.160 just like tracking your steps or your calories, it's now 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:22.520 time to track and evaluate our dating activity. Okay, we 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.480 need to hear more about this. Sounds intriguing, so okay. So, 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.279 and for the listeners out there, if you were to 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.560 go to the app store, you can look up relationship AI. 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.600 And I'm just gonna give a brief description of what 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.160 I see. It looks like I see a lot of 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.440 people that I'm dating, and then as I'm dating them, 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:41.720 I rate them right. Every text, call, in person, meeting, 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.880 hang out, sleep over, you can plug in and evaluate 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:51.560 and that will give you your own personal metrics and 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:57.160 data to really see how well things are going. I mean, 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.600 we're for you, we're moving towards the data driven life, 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.399 So I don't you why not? Why can't we move 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.360 our dating towards it? Can you give us an example 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.319 of how data would trans you know, how we would 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.400 able to know if we're a better data data by 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:16.360 getting data on it. Well, often are short sided. EGO 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.600 perceives our dating activity in a certain way, and that's 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:25.560 just based on our you know, experiences, and and that 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.520 can be limited. So what this does, what relationship AI does, 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:34.360 is give you the bigger picture on what is really occurring, 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.640 and so you get clarity, you get confidence, and you 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.880 get to effectively and efficiently move forward in your dating 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.000 life so that you can create the relationship outcomes that 0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.719 you truly want. I think it's incredibly interesting. And the 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.400 way that I see the app is, let's say you 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.320 go on a date with a guy named Dan, you 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.319 get done, you get home from your date, and then 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.680 you basically fill out the sliders like was the communication easy? 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.640 How comfortable were we talking about your career? And right 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.799 you're you're basically feeling that in lifetime After the day 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.120 and then exactly. Let's say you have a couple of 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:07.600 dates a week. At the end of the week, you 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.360 can see which date because like, I guess it's easy. 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.920 I'm sorry, it's difficult to look back in hindsight and 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.520 be like, I remember exactly how I was feeling right 0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.240 after that date. But you kind of have like an overbroad, overarching, 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.640 broad idea. So this allows you to quantitatively be like, Okay, 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.600 this is the person that I had a better time 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.719 with immediately following the date. Right, you get fuzzy, you 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.840 get super fuzzy, and then those things that were red flags, 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.680 like in the moment you like go oh, I'm gonna 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.759 let that slide. And and this allows you to actually 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:41.640 input your red flags and like, see what is really happening? 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.520 And I think, what we we've done this for business 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.359 for decades now, but we have never applied data and 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.359 metrics to our personal lives. So we can actually make 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:56.120 better decisions and and feel really empowered about it and 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.120 have fun fun. I gotta tell you it's crazy, but 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.200 it might just be crazy enough to work. Well. I 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:08.200 can I be a contrarian just because it absolutely human 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.400 beings evoke emotion, right and we make a lot of 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.320 decisions based on emotion, yes, and so this seems a 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.280 little bit more analytical. Do you think that is the 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:23.080 smart way to approach dating, more analytical rather than emotion based. Well, 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.759 you certainly can have all the emotions you want in 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.840 the moment, but then but then at at the time 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:34.359 of evaluation, you can actually go okay, like were those 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.080 emotions valid? Like did I really have a super high 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.160 response to this person? You know, you can actually put 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.319 in like an emoji for exactly how you felt, like 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.520 you have the instant feeling, and then you can break 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.839 it down and go deeper and say, oh, well, like 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.839 I really didn't feel that comfortable, you know, in this 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:57.560 particular in our communication, but I felt really comfortable with 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.400 the affection. So it's like giving you, you like, a 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:08.920 particular detail to actually evaluate your own emotions. Interesting. I 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.239 think it's interesting. It's something I never would have thought of, 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.320 But honestly, I can see the I can see the 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.760 utility in it. Well, it's something I definitely I would 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.320 try out just to see what it's like. I would 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.040 love taste you guys try it out. Well, unfortunately we're 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:26.680 both taken. I guess you could do like a week 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.000 by day by day maybe with the same person like 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:33.360 on Monday. Absolutely can Yeah, okay, just with one person exactly, 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.000 So we can do this even though we're both in relationships. 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:40.520 Totally have your mates try it. There you go, and 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.160 for the listeners out there. So let's say you're going 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.760 on Valentine's Day date, you could always download relationship AI 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.279 and be sure to log your date with the person 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:49.400 that you went on a date with and see how 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.480 he stacks up against the other people, or he or 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.160 she stacks up against the other people you do. I 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.560 don't want to give Ashley any any data on my 0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.920 dating performance. I will say what she can come up 0:38:59.920 --> 0:39:02.480 to and be like, you cuddled with me at the 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.040 time of the first six months of dating, and now 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.960 you're cuddling with me at a rate This is ridiculous. 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.960 This is not why I married you. I I don't 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.680 need numbers behind our arguments. Well, what it actually does 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:17.960 is gives you at platform for conversation that's super super 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:22.680 interesting and growth oriented. So you actually can instead of 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.000 like waiting for like a year and a half two 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.719 things get really like, oh god, this is not with 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.839 the way it started. You can like actually see where 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.719 it's headed. It's like, wait, this is an opportunity for 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.120 it has to have a conversation about something that's kind 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.000 of a sticking point. I think it's cool, Kareena. I 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.799 think it's a great idea. I'm glad that we're exploring 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.440 because it's so unique. You know, you see a lot 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:43.839 of dating things out there, and this is the first 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.640 time I've ever heard of anything like this, and I 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.920 think that's awesome. So for the listeners out there that 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.120 want to give Karina's apple try, it's called Relationship AI. 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:52.919 You can find it in the app Store, at least 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:54.359 on my iPhone I saw. I'm sure you could get 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.520 it on a droid too. Android is coming out later 0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.600 this year. Gotcha, Okay, great, So for the listeners out there, 0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.719 I phone check out Relationship AI and later this year 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.520 if you have a droid, you can find it there 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.920 as well. Coarina, before you go, just give us one 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.080 piece of advice for single people on Valentine's Day and 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.400 one piece of advice for somebody in a relationship on 0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:16.640 Valentine's Day. Well, for all the singles out there, just 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:21.040 love life today and whether that's with a personal self 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.360 care moment do that, or just go and have some 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.239 fun with friends and and also work on some of 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.719 those dating apps that you're on, like Swipe, swipe a few, 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.600 have a couple of conversation starters, and just have fun, 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.400 love life, love it. There we go, Coarena, thank you 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:41.200 so much for joining us. Have a great Valentine's Day 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.799 in Santa Barbara, and uh best of luck with the app. 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.520 Thank you, thank you. Guys, have a right not yourself 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:52.520 happy Valentine's Happy Valentine's Day. Bye. I like it. I 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.000 know you didn't seem to be the biggest fan of it. 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.240 I think it's cool. I mean, it's just not I'm 0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.440 not a data oriented person when it comes to dating. Listen. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.680 I feel like so many decisions that I've made in 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.800 the past or based off like gut feelings, my emotions. 0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:06.920 Most of the time. When I put data or like 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.040 I overthink situations, that's when I make the wrong decision. 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:11.680 I think it's a good way to say organized. Let's 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:15.080 say your dating like two fifteen people at the same time. 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:16.960 It's a good way for you to like Yeah, I'm 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.759 sure you have folders within the dating app where you 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:24.680 can put like Dean Jared, Greg Jack, Jim Tom, you know, 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.640 like Tori does when she's dating all her seven different guys. Yeah, 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.440 so I think it's got a peel. I like it. 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.440 I think it's cool. It's again, I like it because 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.879 it's so different. It's different, it's so unique, and that 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.879 is I will say, it's coming from a different angle 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.040 and AI perspective of dating. So it gives you statistics 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:42.120 that is interesting enough. However, I don't think I would 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.359 be able to do it because I think I would Again, Well, 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:47.880 what you said earlier in the phone too is a 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:49.520 lot of I think that goes in line with dating 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.480 is you can't really quantify a feeling. So it's like 0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.040 they might not be scoring well on the app, but 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.000 you feel good around them, And I think that's like 0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.440 you can't really calculate that. You know what this reminds 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.479 me of all and came, Polly, you ever seen that movie? 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.759 I watched it like watching the hospital and I broke 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.440 my life. Okay, So Ben Stiller plays a risk analysis 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.279 life insurance, life insurance, so that's what he does. He 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:13.680 announced he gives analysts of risk and so that entire 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.600 movie is based upon like you can't put numbers for 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.919 the relationship because he's dating Jen Aniston. It doesn't work. 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:21.880 He should go back with his ex wife. Yes, but 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.560 in his gut tells him to go to Jen. I know, 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:26.920 but it's actually in the movie. I will say the 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:28.560 computer does say that he should be with Jen, and 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.840 then he doesn't believe it. I remember that part. No, 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:32.279 I thought the computer said that he should be with 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.640 his ex wife. Now, remember he put the numbers in 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.040 and the computer was loading on the boat, and then 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:39.400 they later find out that it said. He was like, 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.800 something must be wrong because it's saying that I should 0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:45.240 go with Jennifer Anderson's character. Anyways, sorry for the spoiler 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.759 alert audience. Yeah, sixteen years later if you haven't seen 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.000 the movie yet, Sorry about that, guys. Anyways, we're gonna 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.680 take one quick break and we're gonna jump right back 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.720 into it. We've got some great guests up here in Tahoe, 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.319 some good friends. You know who's here. Kalin's here, she 0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.480 should come on. Anyways, we're gonna take one quick break 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.440 and we will have some of those guests, but not 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:13.080 all of them on the podcast. Stick around, all right, 0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.920 and we are back with one of Bachelor Nation's favorite 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.360 couple and on the Valentine's Day episode, it's so fitting 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.520 that they're here. Uh, Like we said, we're not going 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.080 to share who they are. They're both going to talk. 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.000 They're both spoilers. I'm going to tell us about their 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.840 Valentine's plans, etcetera, etcetera, And maybe you the listener, can 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.760 surmise who they might be. So welcome to the podcast. 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.520 Our two mystery guests, two men to female. Welcome to podcast. 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.640 Thanks guys, two men too, female. Yeah, but I think 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.239 that they'll be able to figure out pretty quickly that 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.160 it's a man and a woman. Sometimes I feel like 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:45.880 I sound like a woman or two men. It sounds 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.279 like maybe there we go. So for the listeners out there, 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.520 it is our Valentine's episode, What do you guys have 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.160 planned for this year's Valentine's Because it is your first 0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:58.080 Valentine's together, second Valentine's together. That's a clue right there, Yeah, 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.799 that's a clue. Second before wright, before we get into 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.080 this year's what did you guys do last year for 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:06.200 Valentine's Day? We? What did we? Oh? We celebrated early. 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.680 We celebrated early because his friends from the UK came 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.920 in on Valentine's Day, so we were with his I 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.000 don't want to say any names, but his friends and 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.799 family got you nice, okay. And then and then this year, 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.920 what do you guys have planned? He almost said your name? 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:29.120 He my mystery man is surprising me tonight with um, 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.200 I don't even know with what. Something special. Hopefully it'll 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:36.279 it'll be a pre dinner drinks at a can I 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:43.000 say the name eight eighteen sixty eight and uh. And 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:46.960 then we're going to dinner after that at a place 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.440 that I can't tell you because it's surprised. Oh what 0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:55.359 a god, that's just so sir. How did you come 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.600 up with this idea to take this wonderful woman on 0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.520 this mystery day? Like where did you get the ideas 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:03.080 to go to these place? Um? Just from living in 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.160 the area of the past ten years. And then I 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.759 have a good friend that knows all the hot spots 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:12.160 in Reno. Nice. He's best. He's with the Reno Tahoe 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.680 Tourism Board. It's good to have a guy on the inside, 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.600 you know. So that's why I keep him around. Yeah, yeah, smart, 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:22.799 so miss uh? If I made um, I want to 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:28.880 know if your mystery man is a mushball because he 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.799 comes off you are like I can't say your name, 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.759 it's so weird, but you're You're a man's man. You 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.760 know you you are? You are. I get mush ball vibes. 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.880 Well I don't. I get mush ball vibes too, but 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:44.719 like in exterior sense, like I see you outside with 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.080 your shirt off, chopping lumber, you know what I mean, 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.880 Like like you like to go camping all that kind 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.440 of Yeah, you're like you're but you just like you 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:58.960 just seem like the biggest sap mushball, sweetest warmest guy ever. Miss. 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.879 I want to know who who the real mystery Man 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:09.040 is he? I would say no, he it when when 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.759 he really like feels his feelings deep and lets out 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:14.319 those tears. It's few and far between, but when he does, 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:19.440 it's amazing. But he's very sweet. He's he's I wouldn't 0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.600 say I'm USh ball in that. He's, you know, very 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:27.160 overly emotional at all, but but he's always very good 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:31.040 at um, always complimenting me and making me feel very 0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.080 special and showing me love that way. The reason I 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.880 asked is because when the mystery Man was describing the 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:42.480 day tonight he had a massive grant how giddy he was. 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.319 And you can tell that he's also so giddy because 0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.360 he's surprising you and it's fun and you like planning. 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:53.560 He we also have been apart for a while because 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:58.040 of work work, so so this is our first time 0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:02.920 seeing each other in what like over a week, and 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.520 so I like as much as I love being here 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.080 with you guys today, I'm ready to get back to 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:11.960 the hotel room with him. I bet he's very excited 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.360 to go. Sor I want to hang out with you 0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.880 guys a little bit longer. But I get it. You 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:23.920 got We're going. He doesn't care as long as Patty's 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.120 eyes are closed. I guess should we announce to the 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:28.680 listeners who are well, how about this give us a 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.840 clue to each give a clue to the audience of 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.719 who you are. I'm going to give a clue for him, 0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:37.560 and so I'm going to give him. I'm gonna say 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:42.760 that he if you watched the show, he gave everyone 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:48.160 Dad vibes right away, like Daddy vibes, like Daddy d Dean. 0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.640 I will say, I mean, he gives he gives your 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:55.359 van a run for its money. That's right. That is right. 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:59.000 I forgot about the van. That's right, that's right, that's right. 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.520 And he was the one that caught my I right 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:05.000 away and stayed till the end. And so, mystery man, 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:10.680 can you give a clue about the mystery lady? Oh? Wow? Um? 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.160 Who without giving it away? Without giving away? Who is? 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:23.399 Who's the mystery lady? Oh? My no, she said his name. 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:29.120 Damn it. Heather, All right, let's go ahead and pretend 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.360 that didn't happen. I still think that Garrett should describe 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.640 the mystery. Yeah. I know who the woman is, so uh, 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:43.279 she was engaged and then broken up. That is the clue. First, 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:44.560 I think I know who it is. She has a 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.360 Minnesotan accent, not like I'm the best dog momb that 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.920 owns the cutest corgy in the world. Damn, that's what 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:55.960 she wanted. You lead with my past relationship. Well, if 0:48:55.960 --> 0:49:02.040 you haven't guessed yet, help I suck it. Becka and 0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:07.160 Garrett on the podcast Surprise Surprise. Yeah, I don't think 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.319 anyone could have gotten So you guys, can you're heading 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.720 into Rena tonight for Tin's They did. Yes, that Garrett 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.759 set up for Becca. It all makes sense now I 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:16.200 can piece it together. Now I know who they are 0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.400 that you can use. Yeah, exactly, Garrett, you have my 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:23.279 all time favorite. I'm I watched The Bachelor, but I 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:27.239 don't religiously watch it, and so but I watched most 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.760 of your season and I there was one moment towards 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.080 the end. It was my favorite moment in the history 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:39.160 of Bachelor anything, excluding obviously stuff with Ashley and I. Uh. 0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.319 There was a part at the end where you were 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.680 talking about Becca and I think it was the final two, 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:49.200 and you started getting emotional and and you and you 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.080 looked up in the camera and you had tears in 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.759 your eyes and you were just like, I love the 0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.440 way she says bag. Yeah, and that was it, and 0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:58.879 you were like, I love the way she says bag. 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:02.000 And Ashley and I looked at each other at that 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.879 moment and was like, that is the sweetest moment I've 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:09.840 ever seen on this show. Because so many times and 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.319 you guys can attest this for watching the show, it's 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:16.640 very overexaggerated lines. You know, she's the person I want 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:17.960 to spend the rest of my life with. I can 0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.360 only see me being with him for the rest of 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.600 my life. I love him. He's my soul mate. He's 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.200 he moves my world. Blah blah blah blah blah, and 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.239 a lot of it's for me, I guess, a little 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.319 cliche and overly used, and like you know, it's it's 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.120 almost like a formulaic. At this point in that moment 0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.920 when you said that, I could tell how much you 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:41.160 loved Becca from that line, without you ever saying how 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.879 in love you were with her or how you can 0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.919 never see yourself with another person like I knew every 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.680 I knew how much Becca meant to you in that 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:53.040 moment just by the way you said it, And I'll 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.360 never forget that for the rest of my life. It 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.600 was one of my favorite moments I've ever seen. I 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.560 will say he to this day, now we've been together 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:03.359 to two years later, he still calls me out every 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:07.640 time I say a bag. He he really loved it. 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.600 I love when we go on trips together and she's like, 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.360 gotta pack the bag. That's hilarious. Like, now I know 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.799 I asked someone to marry me. He though. The more 0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.240 that he's with me or around my friends and family 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.160 back home, he starts to pick up the Minnesota and accent. 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.000 I do it on purpose now you don't. You don't 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.440 even know when you're doing it comes out, No, I do. 0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.880 What do you say in like a Minnesota accent? Oh no? 0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:35.040 Do you just like quote Fargo? That was Minnesota? Right, yeah, Dakota, 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:41.719 but that, yeah, same accent. We watched Fargo together and 0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.440 he was like, this is how your aunt sounds, and 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.719 she's like, oh no, We're going over to Sandy's later 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:50.440 and going to have a lud. Well you guys are 0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.680 you guys are living in Soca right now? Right? So 0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:54.520 does do you see the accent kind of fade away 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.799 now you're like far away from home? I don't. I mean, 0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.799 it's hard for me to tell. I don't think so. 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:03.640 If I'm drinking, it's it's always it comes out so 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.960 hard when I'm drinking. When I I don't have much 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.520 of a Rhode Island Boston accent. I have a little bit, 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.120 but when I start drinking or if I'm back home, 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.279 all of a sudden, I turned into John Krasinski from 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.920 that smot pop. Commercially, my Colorado accent really comes out 0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.200 when I'm drunk. For sure? What is the Colorado acts? 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.879 There is? Anyways for the listeners out there becat you're 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.239 on Bachelor Live on stage. You're doing the tour for 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.480 that right now, go ahead and plug that real quick 0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:31.000 because you're making a bunch of stops over the next 0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.799 few months. It's crazy. So we've been practicing for a while. 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.080 I mean, the show has been in the works for 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:39.959 two years. It's been like this baby, and um, it's 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:43.200 basically one local Bachelor in every city that we go to. 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.560 So we're gonna have sixty six different guys and then 0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.160 he is going to be dating ten local girls and 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:52.760 so it's all on stage. We have group dates, ros ceremonies, hometowns, 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:55.960 fantasy suites. We had our very first show last night 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.440 and the audience was crazy in the best ways. Like 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:01.360 Ben and I ocked out and we knew that it 0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.520 was going to be we were going to have an audience. 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.600 That was the first time we've really practiced with an audience. 0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.520 But we stood there for a good two minutes while 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:14.040 they just cheered and interrupted and standing ovations and Batchel Nation. 0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:16.239 I knew that we had fans. I mean, like you 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.080 obviously get the d m s and you meet people 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.040 that want the photos and autographs on that, but like 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.560 I swear batter Nation fans are more extreme than sports fans. 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:30.759 They're the craziest loyalist, most wonderful, insane people I've ever 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:34.040 encountered in my entire life. Yeah. Well, and like every 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:35.799 year you watch the show and you have the people 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.200 that you love each season or that you don't like. 0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.040 And on stage, it's it's only a two hour show, 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.000 so super quick, and on stage, the audience started to 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.720 either love or hate some of the girls. So they're yelling, 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.279 like pick Katie, you Dick. They're like yelling at the 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.960 can I see Dick on this? Okay? But they're yelling 0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.800 at the Bachelor if he's making the wrong decision. He 0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:58.560 hears it and he feels and he's like, oh wait, 0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.360 but can I ask the audience? Can I Can I 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.319 pick someone else? And so it's like you get all 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.799 those awkward moments from the show just right in front 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:06.600 of you. I love it. And so it's you and 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.719 been co hosting it. Um And if you're interested in 0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:11.399 being an audience member, I'm sure you guys are sold 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.759 out in tons of venues, but go to Bachelor Live 0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.080 on stage dot com to reserve a ticket. It sounds 0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:18.160 like it's the venue last night looked huge, like it 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:21.120 looked like it was like the heavyweight boxing like Matt. 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:23.360 You know. Well, we walked out and I was stunned. 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:27.000 But the show tomorrow and some of the shows are 0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:29.239 like double the size, which I'm I don't know how 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:33.879 it's possible. But I do have one question about Bachelor Alive, 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.239 just because it's across my mind. Uh and I'm sure 0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.600 you guys been asked this before. But why I guess 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:41.680 because it's Bachelor Alive and not Bachelorette Alive. But was 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.360 there any reason as to why I wasn't half half 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.680 Bachelor and half Bachelorettes. I think for this go around, 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.040 they want to start. The first season of the show 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.759 was solely The Bachelor, and so obviously we we have 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:55.880 to see how it goes and if the audience likes it, 0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:59.280 and then from there they definitely want to add Bachelor. 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.040 I I mean, I would personally love to see same 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:05.680 sex on the stage, um Seymour variety. So I think 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.320 if this run goes well, we're definitely going to fingers 0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:10.480 Cross be adding. So shout out to you Bachelor Nation 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:13.720 for being so loyal. Really thank you for that, because 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.120 you guys are really wonderful in that aspect. And then secondly, 0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.400 if you guys want to see a Bachelorette live on 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.120 stage with Becca and Ben to do this all over again, 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.879 go see Bachelor Live right now, because if it does 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.200 well to have a Bachelorette, and better than that, if 0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.239 that goes well, I better see a Bachelor in Paradise 0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:34.759 on stage because I can only imagine the chaos and 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:38.520 madness that would ensue. Well, Jared, we we do throw 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.160 a little bit to paradise, so you just have to 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.600 come and watch it. Oh, we'll be there, very exciting. 0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.280 We'll actually be there tonight and be there tomorrow depending 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.400 on when this comes out to that comes out Saturday, 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.640 so you'll be there tonight. Anyways, Thank you guys so 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.800 much for joining us. Have fun on your date tonight, 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:57.399 and thank you luck tonight on Bachelor Live on Stage. 0:55:57.400 --> 0:55:59.560 I guess I can't stay tonight for two different nights anyways, 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:01.719 And back on the podcast because I have a lot 0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:03.200 of questions. Yeah, we kind of have to expedite it. 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:05.960 Sorry for it, but thank you so much and for 0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.440 the listeners. Stick around because we have two mystery guests 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:16.799 coming up next, introducing the coziest brand of sleepware, loungewear 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:20.960 and more. 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Caraway home dot Com and we 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.720 are back joined in studio by one of my favorite 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:47.440 people in the entire world. We're not going to say 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.800 his name. The thing is, we wanted the listeners to 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.360 guess who we have on as a guest. They're gonna 0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:54.280 know immediately, but I still want to play the game 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.680 immediately immediately. They know your voice, Bro, they know you 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:02.120 you know well, they know you're a man now. So, sir, 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.200 welcome to the podcast. We appreciate you being here on 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.760 our special Valentine's Day episode. Can you give a clue 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:11.960 as to who you are? Yeah? I love both of 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:13.760 these men with all my heart, and they know that 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:17.960 we've been friends Jared and I now for four or 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:21.080 five years and Dean and I now for three years, 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.800 three best years of my life. So for the listeners 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:25.920 out there, because this is our Valentine's podcast, can you 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.040 please tell you do have a partner. I do have 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:29.760 a partner. That's another hint for the listeners out there 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.680 that might not know who this is. What are you 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.360 and your significant other doing on this uh wonderful day 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.360 of celebration of love. We're hanging out with you, guys. Yeah, 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.320 we appreciate that. Sweet. I'm sorry. You have to know. 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:45.160 It's great. Actually, last year, we're not on Valentine's Day together. 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:49.320 This year we're going to be here, uh in Squaw Valley, 0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:53.160 hanging out with the two of you, celebrating, eating good food, 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:56.880 having good laughs, and just enjoying the company of people. 0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.880 That's as good as it gets. No, no, no, no, 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.080 don't think people. Some people out there might not still 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:06.080 know who it is. Yeah, you're dating someone, that's another clue. 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:09.560 I'm dating somebody. Is this your first Valentine's Day together? Yes? 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:13.720 In person? We were together last Valentine's Day dating, but 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:16.360 we had not been able to get in together in 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:18.800 person last Valentine's Day, so we spent apart. But did 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.640 you celebrate Valentine's Dawn? It just a different day. We 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.440 always celebrate Valentine's Day. Every day is a Valentine's Day 0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:26.880 for me right now with her. I saw your Instagram 0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:29.640 caption is very sweet. It's true. It is fun, like 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:32.280 it's been a good Uh we've been together now for 0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.920 a year. It's been a amazing year. Where it does 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:39.800 it just feels like the pressure of performing for these 0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.800 special days is there because you want to show them 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.080 you care, but also you kind of want to do 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:48.320 that every day. So it's like this day is unique, 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:50.560 but it's almost hard to top every other day because 0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:52.800 every day it feels really good. Right now? Can I 0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:56.440 read your caption online? Because it's the most you thing 0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.800 I could possibly read. I'm not saying his name. Uh, 0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:03.560 it's says every day is Valentine's with you, and then 1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:07.240 it adds your girlfriend's name and says, gosh, dang it, 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:12.400 I am a lucky man. That's so cute. That's great, 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:14.520 that's great. I love that you guys celebrate each other 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:16.840 every single day. Jared and I are both are kind 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.200 of on the same bus of we don't actually love 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:21.040 the idea of Valentine's Day because every day should be 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:25.480 Valentine's Day. We want to abolish it. Um, yeah, same, 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:28.440 It's just too much because now it's becoming a holiday 1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:31.280 that is more about the sadness of single people than 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:35.240 it is celebrating relationships. Yeah, well, I think it puts 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:37.960 people in the two camps, and I don't love holidays 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:39.880 or any type of celebration that puts people in the 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:43.920 two camps, the singles and the people in relationship. Valentine's 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:46.520 Day is a special day, but I think every day 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:48.840 can be a day that you express your gratitude and 1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.480 care and love for your partner who was committed to 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:55.800 sharing their life with you through your annoyances. But today 1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:58.120 just feels like one of those days that it's isolating 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:00.760 for many and that's not fun, Like we can't How 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:02.680 am I supposed to celebrate when I know there's somebody 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:06.840 tonight sitting on their couch alone, going if I only 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.760 had somebody by me. Well, sir, if you don't mind, 1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.880 as someone that's obviously spent many Valentine's Day as a 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:15.400 single person, what advice would you have for the single 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:18.959 people of today? Yeah, I I know what I would 1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:22.120 tell him, And I think I have to actually say 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:24.680 this is an advice, advice I'm going to share. But 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:29.000 Tanya from the I Heart Family actually shared this with 1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:34.800 me very recently. Never stop trying. That's my advice for 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:37.160 anybody's single out there. So if you're sitting on your 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:40.720 couch right now, or if you're alone, if you desire 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:42.880 a partnership. If you don't, then that's a whole new story. 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:44.760 But if you desire to bring somebody into your life 1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:47.080 and you just haven't found him, or it hasn't worked 1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:51.200 out yet, or you're still searching, no matter what you've done, 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:53.760 no matter how really like hurt me you've may have been, 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:58.440 or how many great dates you've been on, never stop trying. 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:02.080 Always continue because as those stories, those first off those 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:04.280 disappointments are turning in the stories, and you're gonna learn 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:06.480 more and more about you who you are through it. 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:12.920 It's beautiful. That is beautiful. Can comment. So you guys 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:16.240 all hate Valentine's Day, you wish it was abolished. But 1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:20.280 why is Valentine's Day being categorized as relationships? Isn't it 1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:23.240 just a holiday about love? So love can be from 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:26.320 your father, your brother, your friends, your family. It can 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:29.280 look so differently, so why should it be relationship quote 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.120 unquote shamed versus being This is epic, This is a 1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:35.640 day years But that's why I don't like it, because 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:39.240 I feel like it's solely based on romantic relationships and 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:41.480 not other love that you experienced. Where other holidays, like 1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:45.840 we said, like whether you know whatever you celebrate during December, Christmas, Hanka, 1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:47.880 so on and so forth, and Thanksgiving, I feel like 1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:51.120 those are more like family and friend oriented holidays, where 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:53.800 it's just celebrating the people that you love most and 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:55.800 are lucky to be surrounded by. Where I feel like 1:02:55.960 --> 1:03:01.480 Valentine's Day is only about boyfriend, girlfriend dating, boyfriend, boyfriend 1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:04.120 girlfriend girlfriend marriage, whatever. You know, It's only about that 1:03:04.160 --> 1:03:07.640 type of relationship and love. Maybe I'm wrong. I see 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:10.160 it different. Well no, that's good. I see it very differently. 1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:13.280 Need the different perspective, spoken like a true single woman. 1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:17.760 So you are single. That's all I'm about to say. 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:22.360 Not to trust the night good? Sorry are you kidding? 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:25.240 I don't care? No, I that was so funny. No, 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:29.200 but I genuinely like I always get a Valentine card 1:03:29.320 --> 1:03:31.680 from my dad, you know what I mean. I'm not saying. 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:35.400 You know, people have different relationships with their parents than mine. Maybe, 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:38.480 but it's still just like your friends. Galentine's Days about 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:40.400 your girls showing up, being like where your community, we 1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:41.920 love you. So I just feel like, why are we 1:03:41.960 --> 1:03:45.880 shaming that, Like, well, celebrate it. Everyone love you to 1:03:45.960 --> 1:03:47.440 make you feel better when you're I get you a 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:49.800 Valentine's Day card? Or did you make you feel more 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:52.479 sad because you're like, my dad's the only one getting 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.840 me a Valentine's Day Make you sad? It makes a 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:56.880 lot of people sad out there. Rock solid dude in 1:03:56.920 --> 1:03:58.800 my life shows that he cares about me. But I 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:00.880 feel like a lot of people out there might get 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:03.280 sad about that because then they're like, I only get 1:04:03.320 --> 1:04:06.040 a Valentine's Day card for that day. Valentine's Day fault 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.320 faults your father Valentine's Day gifts, But I text him 1:04:10.320 --> 1:04:14.240 I love him. Hear guys, I don't know if it 1:04:14.280 --> 1:04:17.560 intrigues you at all. But Valentine's Day, also called St. 1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:22.240 Valentine's Day or the Feast of St. Valentine, is celebrated annually. 1:04:22.920 --> 1:04:26.440 It is originated as a Western Christian feast day honoring 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:30.960 one or two early Christian martyrs named St. Valentine, and 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:36.240 is recognized as a significant cultural, religious, and commercial celebration 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:42.120 of romance and love in many regions of the world today. 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:43.760 So now we can understand a little bit more about 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:46.000 the origins of valent text of it. But how does 1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:50.600 that help us? I think it now, Well, because the 1:04:50.640 --> 1:04:55.680 foundation of this was a celebration of romance and love, 1:04:56.680 --> 1:05:01.080 it sounds like in all forms. Well, the only reason 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:03.320 I'm starting to not like it is because now there's 1:05:03.360 --> 1:05:05.880 this whole thing about well, if there's Valentine's Day, there 1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:08.640 should be single awareness Day. And it just makes me 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:12.880 think maybe we're just overthinking everything at this point. There's 1:05:12.880 --> 1:05:15.040 also people making a lot of money on this day. Well, 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:16.600 of course, it's a candy card holiday, you know what 1:05:16.640 --> 1:05:19.360 I mean. I spent a lot of money. Flowers. Flowers. 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:22.200 They're gonna die in six days if we're lucky. So 1:05:22.240 --> 1:05:24.720 when you when you get out of Tahoe Squaw Valley, 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:26.280 we're obviously lucky. I have to be up here for 1:05:26.440 --> 1:05:28.960 Valentine's Day. You guys don't have any specific plans of 1:05:29.040 --> 1:05:32.000 being like, this is our Valentine's Day date? Uh No, 1:05:32.160 --> 1:05:35.560 we don't. Probably on me, I should probably should have 1:05:35.560 --> 1:05:40.439 done that. But we have had a really great here's 1:05:40.440 --> 1:05:42.880 a cool part about our relationship. Over the last year. 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:47.440 We've had an insane ride, We've done some incredible stuff, 1:05:48.320 --> 1:05:51.480 and I do feel like we've participated in things together, 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:54.800 will tell stories about for years to come. So I'm 1:05:54.800 --> 1:05:56.720 sure there's gonna be a day that comes along where 1:05:56.720 --> 1:06:00.320 I'm sitting across the table from this girl and I say, man, 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:03.280 I'm a lucky guy, and that's Valentine's Day enough for me. 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:06.160 Can you make us all lucky guys? Yeah? I mean 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:07.520 I feel like you both are. Would it be okay 1:06:07.520 --> 1:06:11.479 if we got to speak with this Lucky girl podcast? Yeah? Yeah, lady, 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:14.000 thank you, thank you. Man who shall not be named, 1:06:14.800 --> 1:06:16.880 all right, and for the listeners out there, we're doing 1:06:16.920 --> 1:06:21.479 the ceremonial transfer of the microphone to that gentleman's better half, 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:24.800 if you will. Uh again, we're not gonna say the names. Nope, 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:26.760 we're not gonna say them. So welcome to the podcast. 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:31.040 Welcome to help us like a dating. Its very awkward, 1:06:31.080 --> 1:06:34.720 not I feel like a jerk saying be like, hey, welcome, 1:06:34.760 --> 1:06:37.680 what's up? Bro? It's okay, how are you on this 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:41.520 Valentine's Day? I'm great, happy to be here. So I'm 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:44.320 really really happy you're here. Because obviously Jared and I 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:46.880 know Ben pretty well for the most part spoiler, but 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:50.040 we've never really all right, let's just get it away. 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:51.760 The chicken is up. I said his name a while. 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:55.080 It was Ben Higgins Ladies, a gentleman, which you knew 1:06:55.120 --> 1:06:57.320 from the moment you heard his voice, and his wonderful 1:06:57.360 --> 1:07:00.360 girlfriend jess Clark. I can't believe I blew that. I know. 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:02.320 I wasn't one that was like, do you like jess 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:05.520 or Jessica better either one. No one calls me Jessica anymore, 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:08.240 I think because of my Instagram is just jess so 1:07:09.000 --> 1:07:11.720 it calls me Jessica. Sometimes he was angry. You love 1:07:11.760 --> 1:07:15.800 that name, Jessica. Just in general I call him Benjamin. 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:18.880 So what's your middle take it formal Elise? Because the 1:07:18.880 --> 1:07:22.200 only didn't ask when my when my mom used to 1:07:22.240 --> 1:07:24.200 be mad at me, she she would call me Jared Matthew. 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:25.480 That's how in your she was mad at me, should 1:07:25.480 --> 1:07:29.040 call your middle name? So jess Jesse, Elise, Jessica, elease? 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:30.800 Did you ever get called just like Ben call you 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:35.280 that when he's mad? Is my middle name? Okay, jess Jessica, 1:07:35.440 --> 1:07:37.880 how can you possibly ever be? That's the thing. He's 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:39.760 never angry at me, so I would never know. Right, 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:43.160 We went from not saying anyone's names to saying, everyone 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:47.200 your cards out at the table at this point. Anyways, Jess, 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:49.880 have you to have you here for our Valentine's Day episode? Um, 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:51.520 obviously we got to speak with Ben a little bit 1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:53.360 about you guys plans. It sounds like you're just celebrating 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:55.960 each other every single day. But what what are your 1:07:55.960 --> 1:07:57.920 thoughts are? Like, what's your take on Valentine's Day? Just 1:07:57.960 --> 1:08:00.680 in general? Before before you and be and had the 1:08:00.760 --> 1:08:02.800 chance to celebrate these past two together, what was your 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.680 take on it? Um? I mean I always just spent 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:09.640 it with my girlfriends or Yeah, my dad always got 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:11.760 me something like a stuffed animal, So even when I 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:14.400 was like twenty two, he's still got me giant Teddy bears. 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:16.639 My dad does the same thing. Like when you send 1:08:16.640 --> 1:08:19.040 the message about the card and flowers, my dad gets 1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:22.360 flowers for my sister. So you're big big Galantines, then 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:26.040 big Galantine's gal Did you do Galantine's this year? No? 1:08:26.160 --> 1:08:28.120 I would have been Okay, got you what's still kind 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:32.599 of Galantine? Galantine? Yeah? Well we did. Like what can 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:34.120 you tell our listeners out there, because we do have 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:37.240 a lot of women who are listeners of this part. 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:39.160 I think at least if we have any listeners at all, 1:08:39.600 --> 1:08:43.040 most of them any out there, can you tell them 1:08:43.080 --> 1:08:46.559 what you think a good a good Galantine's Day. It's like, 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:49.240 what do you do to celebrate your Galantine? Specifically, my 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:51.519 best one is me and my best friend into a 1:08:51.560 --> 1:08:55.200 Mexican restaurant and got margarita's and like split tacos and 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:58.160 notches and went to a movie afterwards. But we it 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:00.360 was when I was in college, and so the Mexican 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:02.400 restaurant was the only one in the town, and everyone 1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:04.920 else there was on a date. So all of the 1:09:05.000 --> 1:09:07.320 like waiters and any old man that was in there 1:09:07.320 --> 1:09:09.120 felt so bad for us. So we ended up with 1:09:09.160 --> 1:09:13.040 like vases of flowers on our table and just got 1:09:13.120 --> 1:09:18.120 drunk on margarities. And yeah, um it was one of 1:09:18.160 --> 1:09:20.559 the fifty shades of gray ones. They love to come 1:09:20.560 --> 1:09:22.400 out with those on Valentine's Day. It sounds like the 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:25.439 simple sometimes the simplest ones are always the best ones, right, 1:09:25.439 --> 1:09:27.000 Like you probably never would have thought that going to 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:28.640 a Mexican restaurant with your best friend was going to 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:30.920 turn into like a fantastic memory that you can have 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:33.080 for the rest of your life. Exactly. Yeah, I want 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:37.160 to ask you about how long have you been been dating? Now, Um, 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:41.559 we were just talking about this. We started dating December, Okay, 1:09:41.640 --> 1:09:44.000 so it's a year and a couple of months. Year 1:09:44.040 --> 1:09:45.800 and a couple of months. But you're but their origin 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:47.479 story is not very untraditional in the sense that you 1:09:47.479 --> 1:09:49.240 guys didn't really see each other much for the beginning 1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:53.599 stages of the relationships. So we started talking in November, 1:09:54.080 --> 1:09:56.320 and then as soon as the first time we saw 1:09:56.360 --> 1:10:00.519 each other, we decided to be boyfriend. But then even 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:02.200 after that, you guys still had to do like long 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:04.920 distance because he's got a busy schedule and obviously the 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:07.320 last Valentine's Day we were still like a secret in 1:10:07.360 --> 1:10:09.160 air quotes. Yeah, we had told me when that we 1:10:09.160 --> 1:10:11.760 were dating. When did you guys quote come out? We're 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:14.760 looking on our instagrams. It was what late February of 1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:16.680 last year, so we're coming up on the one year 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:20.400 coming out anniversary. Were you nervous for that, yeah, to 1:10:20.520 --> 1:10:23.000 announce that you were in a relationship with Ben Higgins? Yeah, 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:26.120 well I underestimated it, so I didn't get nervous until 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.080 like my phone started to get hot that night, because 1:10:28.439 --> 1:10:32.720 it's like crazy. Yeah. Well, it's because the thing about Ben, 1:10:32.760 --> 1:10:35.320 he was obviously the bachelor, so he's known for relationships, 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:38.120 and I think, well, I don't think everybody loves Ben 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:41.920 so much that I think that everybody was rooting for him, 1:10:41.960 --> 1:10:43.320 and then all of a sudden one day he was 1:10:43.400 --> 1:10:46.280 like you were that that person that everybody was like, yes, 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:50.120 Ben found his persons, you know, And so was that 1:10:50.200 --> 1:10:53.000 overwhelming for you all of a sudden? I mean not 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:56.320 to like give an example Instagram followers, right, like how 1:10:56.320 --> 1:10:59.120 many followers did you gain just from that? I think 1:10:59.160 --> 1:11:01.639 I got like six thousand a night or something like that. 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:03.840 Is that overwhelming? Because your floone must have been blowing up. 1:11:03.840 --> 1:11:06.519 Everybody miss him talking to you, especially keeping a secret. 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:09.880 It was wild. It was that day was definitely overwhelming, 1:11:09.880 --> 1:11:13.439 and I had just gotten back from Honduras and with him, 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:15.120 and so it was like two days into that I 1:11:15.120 --> 1:11:17.120 was on a business trip. It was a really like 1:11:17.200 --> 1:11:22.160 overwhelming day in general. But um, luckily he kind of 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:24.160 helps like guide me along a lot, and I have 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:26.160 a lot of people that hold me accountable and that 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:28.680 kind of thing. So it was overwhelming, But now it's 1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:30.599 just kind of fun and funny. And did you guys 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:32.639 plan that because you did the Humanity and Hope trip 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:34.840 right to Honduras, which for the listeners out there, if 1:11:34.880 --> 1:11:36.519 you haven't heard of Humanity to Helpe you sure check 1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:38.960 that out. Was a fantastic organization. They bring you to Honduras. 1:11:39.000 --> 1:11:41.639 You get to see locally sourced coffee beans. You gotta 1:11:42.479 --> 1:11:45.960 visit some communities and help them scale. I guess I 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:49.280 don't really want to miss miss uh define a new 1:11:49.280 --> 1:11:53.720 development of communities with Honduras. Um what is the what 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:56.320 was the planning process of going like posting your first 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:59.439 picture together, because that's three months of essentially being boyfriend girlfriend. 1:11:59.840 --> 1:12:01.680 Was there were you guys like today we're gonna do it. 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:02.880 We're like we're gonna do it. In a week, We're 1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:04.680 gonna do it on this day specifically? Was it just 1:12:04.720 --> 1:12:06.599 like you know what, we're just gonna do it. What 1:12:06.640 --> 1:12:09.639 was the process because didn't you talk to someone about it? 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:13.719 It was strategic, very very strategic. UM it has Yeah. 1:12:13.800 --> 1:12:16.120 We one was I wanted to be out of the 1:12:16.120 --> 1:12:19.200 country because I didn't want to take calls about it too. 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:22.839 I thought, well, this is an organization, you know, we 1:12:22.840 --> 1:12:26.439 we both had believed in and we cared about and 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:29.160 so why not get a picture taken down there to 1:12:29.280 --> 1:12:32.719 promote this organization that's helping lives. If this is gonna 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:35.639 be the picture that everybody uses, And then too like 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.360 they're like as soon and you get it, I think, 1:12:40.200 --> 1:12:43.160 just can I be understanding a little bit? And maybe 1:12:43.160 --> 1:12:45.080 you should even know at the time. But for us, 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:47.960 you know, we're dating in private and it was great 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:49.439 and we're having a great time and it was fun 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:52.120 and we're dating and enjoying that side. But there is 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:55.920 this pressure that comes to announcing a public relationship because 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:57.920 then all of a sudden you're tied, and so like, 1:12:57.960 --> 1:12:59.920 I want to make sure this was the real deal, 1:13:00.320 --> 1:13:02.840 like this thing was happening, we were good, because if 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:04.760 you announced a relationship after a month and a half 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:06.960 and then you break up in a month, like that hurts. 1:13:08.120 --> 1:13:09.599 So for us, I want to you know, I think 1:13:09.600 --> 1:13:12.320 we're both like, let's just make sure that we're steady, 1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:14.240 Like this is what we're feeling and thinking right now. 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:17.640 Isn't just like a new cool, like lustful thing. So 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:19.759 three months is actually a great I think great timing. 1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:23.000 It was we we had our own time privately and 1:13:23.040 --> 1:13:27.200 then announced it and it's been a blast. It sounds 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:30.840 like you're two Valentines into a lifetime full of Valentines days, 1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:35.519 lifetime a lot of Valentines. So you guys, so I 1:13:35.560 --> 1:13:37.800 know you're doing the Bachelor alive right now. So you're 1:13:37.800 --> 1:13:39.240 on the tour bus, jess are you're gonna be on 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:42.559 the bus. I'm gonna be popping in and out and out. Yeah, 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:45.040 I'm excited though. It's a nice bus. Everyone says you 1:13:45.040 --> 1:13:48.639 sleep really good on those buses. She'll be coming in. Yeah, 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:51.160 like I think every three weeks, I could see Jessica 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:53.639 coming onto the bus. So that's kind of the plan 1:13:53.760 --> 1:13:56.400 right now. Um, the country. I've got a question. Let's 1:13:56.439 --> 1:13:58.680 I get it. You guys love each other. She's your 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:00.599 best friend, he's your best friend. When do I fit 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:01.960 into this? When do I get to meet up at 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:05.879 the tour bus and go for you? Yeah? We actually 1:14:05.920 --> 1:14:09.120 have negotiated into the contract a open bunk for friends 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:11.160 to come stay on the bus. That it was specifically 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:13.120 for me. I was a lot more flattered for a minute. 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:15.479 But you you're a friend, yeah, I mean that is 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:20.160 kind of you, like and its friends in parentheses all friends. Yeah, 1:14:20.280 --> 1:14:22.439 so please come stay on the bus. Den, I would 1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:25.160 love to be with you any time. Um, it would 1:14:25.160 --> 1:14:28.400 be fantastic if I could spend any waking moment with 1:14:28.439 --> 1:14:30.479 you traveling on the road, because quite frankly, he's a 1:14:30.479 --> 1:14:32.559 professional at it. Did you have any times that you 1:14:32.600 --> 1:14:34.479 might pop into Patrol Alive? Do you have anything set 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:36.000 up right now? I don't have anything planned. I told 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:39.640 Ben uh with no response received, that I would love 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:41.360 to go to like a small town on the tour 1:14:41.439 --> 1:14:43.320 that you guys are going to and experience that with you, 1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:45.400 just like you sit backstage, you get to watch Ben 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.880 Rebecca do their thing and just kind of you know, 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:51.519 I mean, Taho would be a good spot. Reno be 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:56.760 good spot, is a great spot. It would make I 1:14:56.760 --> 1:14:59.320 wanted to be like Twin Falls, Idaho. Okay, let's do it. 1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:02.080 Let's take the You take the van, I'll meet you 1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:05.240 there on the bus. We'll spend some time backstage. Dean, 1:15:05.640 --> 1:15:08.120 I'm telling you this right now, Jared, I would say 1:15:08.160 --> 1:15:09.800 the same thing for you, but Dean is the one 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:13.600 here that I'm speaking to. If you walked out on 1:15:13.640 --> 1:15:17.840 that stage one of these shows, the place would blow. 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:20.880 I don't want to. I don't want to do that. 1:15:20.920 --> 1:15:23.080 I just want to watch you and Becca host a 1:15:23.120 --> 1:15:25.720 beautiful show. The last thing I would want us to 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:28.160 walk out on stage. Um, I have one more question 1:15:28.160 --> 1:15:30.160 before we part ways with you guys, and and uh 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:33.400 feel free to just deflect if need be. But given 1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:35.960 the given the fact that it is Valentine's Day, the 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:40.880 Day of love, Uh, do we see any type of 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:44.160 proposal potentially in the future between you two. What's what's 1:15:44.160 --> 1:15:47.679 on the horizon for Ben and jess Um? Oh, definitely. 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:50.640 I mean I think that Jessica and I life is 1:15:51.520 --> 1:15:55.000 very aligned. I'm excited about the future. What's next for us? 1:15:55.439 --> 1:16:00.120 Jessica just started a company in Denver called sad For 1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:06.160 is a wellness platform where you pay a small membership 1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:09.240 fee and get discounts. So why did you get into that? Um? 1:16:09.280 --> 1:16:11.519 Because Ben loves in Denver, So I thought you were 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:13.880 still in Nashville. I am so I own it in 1:16:13.960 --> 1:16:16.479 Nashville also, but I'm planning on making the move to 1:16:16.560 --> 1:16:20.920 Denver once the question gets popped. Yeah, okay, okay, So 1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:24.759 the plan is hopefully, you know, at some point, maybe 1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:27.880 things progress, maybe on the one year anniversary of your 1:16:27.880 --> 1:16:30.960 guys coming out. Let's not put expectations on anything. Dean 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:37.080 and then you would move to Denver. Yes, So that's 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:41.680 a tentative plan for any I want to ask before you, 1:16:41.680 --> 1:16:44.000 guys go, advice for a long distance relationship, But I 1:16:44.000 --> 1:16:46.519 guess from an outsider, that's the biggest advice I could 1:16:46.520 --> 1:16:49.200 give would be if you're doing a long distance have 1:16:49.320 --> 1:16:53.200 a plan and don't just expect, oh, things will just 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:55.040 line up the way they do, because I feel like 1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:58.000 then they always fall apart. So you guys have done 1:16:58.000 --> 1:17:00.200 a long distance relationship, what would be your biggest piece 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:03.760 of advice for anybody dealing with that right now? UM 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:06.400 communicate with like where you're at and how you're feeling 1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:08.799 at all times. Like Ben always says, if there's anything 1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:10.960 bothering you at any point, you just have to tell me. 1:17:11.080 --> 1:17:13.080 Like I can't because I would bottle things up and 1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:15.280 then I would explode about little things and it would 1:17:15.320 --> 1:17:18.360 lead back to something bigger that happened a long time ago. 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:21.519 So immediate communication and then like just making sure you're 1:17:21.520 --> 1:17:23.519 on the same page because especially as a girl, you 1:17:23.560 --> 1:17:26.200 can like get ahead of yourself sometimes I think girls 1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:29.200 are really bad about that. So making sure that like 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:32.280 you're on the same page about everything at all times, 1:17:32.320 --> 1:17:34.760 otherwise someone will end up like disappointed or something at 1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:38.040 some point. Yeah. I think it's great. Also for anny 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:41.000 couple out there, never leave your partner without having a 1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:44.280 plan on one to see them. Yeah, that's huge. That's 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:45.800 a huge one. I think that's fantastic advice for our 1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:47.920 listeners out there. Um, and for the listeners out there, 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:49.559 thank you so much for listening to this week's episode 1:17:49.560 --> 1:17:52.280 of Help I Suck a Dating the special Valentine's Day addition, 1:17:52.360 --> 1:17:54.760 big thank you too are to MRR guests. I don't 1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:56.320 know if you've guess who they are by now, but 1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:59.639 we only said their names like seven times. Um. Big 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:02.559 thank you to our callers in as well. Be sure 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:06.200 to check out their websites, check out their dating apps, etcetera. 1:18:06.520 --> 1:18:07.920 Have it right here. It's a big thank you to 1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:11.680 Susan trom Betty, a big thank you to Jamie Bronstein, 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:16.400 a big thank you to Carina Carston uh and those 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:18.479 are our callers, and a big thank you to Ben 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:22.479 and Jesse. Of course, mry guest. To the two people 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:23.720 walking out of the room right now, thank you so 1:18:23.800 --> 1:18:25.360 much for joining the podcast. Anyways, If you have any 1:18:25.360 --> 1:18:27.880 guests on who those two guests were because we're again 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:30.760 we're not divulging who they were. UM, be sure to 1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:32.400 email us I suck a Dating at i Hear media 1:18:32.479 --> 1:18:34.479 dot com. Be sure to email some questions. 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