Speaker 1: Hell I Suck a Dating with Denglert and Jared Haven,
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to Help I
Speaker 1: Second Dating. Everybody. My name is Jared Haven. I'm joined
Speaker 1: not in studio, but in a house with Dean Unglert,
Speaker 1: who's looking ravish right now. Uh. We have Tori joining
Speaker 1: us right now as well. We're recording live from Lake Tahoe.
Speaker 1: In Where are we is Tahoe and Cali or Nevada.
Speaker 1: We're currently in California, but it's California. Okay, sorry, we
Speaker 1: flew into Reno. We were in Nevada. Now we drove
Speaker 1: to Lake Tahoe, which is in California and recording an
Speaker 1: episode of Help I Second Dating on Valentine's Day, which
Speaker 1: of course is a very special podcast. Why is that, Dean?
Speaker 1: Uhcause it's because it's the biggest day about relationships with
Speaker 1: the biggest podcast about relationship. Bowl relationships, super Bowl relationship, bro.
Speaker 1: It's a great way to put it, guys. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're happy to be here. A little squeak there, Dean
Speaker 1: just reversed age by ten years. It's the super Bowl
Speaker 1: of dating. I'm really nervous about this. Well, it's your
Speaker 1: super Bowl for dating. You have a Valentine this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the last time you had a Valentine. I
Speaker 1: mean so last year. I went on a first day
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day. It's pretty interesting you went on a
Speaker 1: first day Valentine's It was a little pressure or like,
Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot of pressure around it. Can we
Speaker 1: start from the beginning? How did you meet the girl?
Speaker 1: Did you sign a d M? All that just and
Speaker 1: then how you selected Valentine's Day to be the meet up.
Speaker 1: Don't feel like it's weird to talk about past relationships
Speaker 1: now that you're in a relationship. That's kind of how
Speaker 1: I feel about it is weird, but you get comfortable
Speaker 1: with it. It's within the confines of this because you're
Speaker 1: talking as a story. I d M her I was
Speaker 1: going on a trip. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I would like to know for tips. Um I'll tell
Speaker 1: you it was just it was some stupid thing. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we we had talked for maybe a few weeks beforehand.
Speaker 1: Do we know this person? And I was supposed to
Speaker 1: go to Japan for three weeks and we know this
Speaker 1: first time? I please finish the store. No, I want
Speaker 1: don't know if we know this person. I don't think
Speaker 1: you don't cry you're so cranky, right, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you you could, you could, I don't know who
Speaker 1: you definitely, I don't know the whole contact book other
Speaker 1: people that. Okay, so you d MR. We probably know
Speaker 1: where you were going to Japan. Continue. And the only
Speaker 1: day that both of us were free to meet up
Speaker 1: before I left your Japan, which is on February fifte
Speaker 1: or sixteenth, was Valentine's Day. And so I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we should hang out before
Speaker 1: I go to Japan. And she's thought the same thing.
Speaker 1: And so we met up and yeah, it's good. What
Speaker 1: made you want a d m R? I just thought
Speaker 1: I thought she was pretty. I think I know who
Speaker 1: this person is. I will not say it, but I
Speaker 1: have a pretty blunder band. No, come on, I don't know. Anyways,
Speaker 1: have you guys ever done what's the weirdest thing you
Speaker 1: guys have ever done on Valentine's Day? If if, if
Speaker 1: my guess is correct, she's a blonde, But what does dance?
Speaker 1: What's the weirdest guys ever done on Valentine's Day? Hold on,
Speaker 1: I want to hear about what was the first date, Like,
Speaker 1: you went on a first date, how did you even
Speaker 1: find a reservation? We went to just some random bar
Speaker 1: in l a and paid arcade games. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: like a dinner day. It was more of like a cash,
Speaker 1: grab a beer, play some games day. Yeah that was great, so,
Speaker 1: which is what I always encourage people to do on
Speaker 1: first dates. Anyways. It's like, that's how you really get
Speaker 1: to know someone is you have a couple of drinks.
Speaker 1: You got to like see them in an arcade environment
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, looka like if they like their
Speaker 1: own games, it's game over at that point, you know.
Speaker 1: But if they're if they're playing ski ball, they're loving it,
Speaker 1: that's great. If they like pinball, probably not. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna end well, right, it's not gonna be it's not
Speaker 1: gonna end well. So pinball is the one with the
Speaker 1: two sides, a little pull in, a little morble. That
Speaker 1: guy could come up right behind you just slightly put
Speaker 1: his hands on your hands, right. The romances there, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the actual game itself is just
Speaker 1: horribly boring. Anyways, Yeah, it was a good day. We'll
Speaker 1: have a couple of questions. One would you advocate going
Speaker 1: on a first day on Valentine's Day. Um, you're right,
Speaker 1: because there was like an undo amount of pressure, that's
Speaker 1: the question. But you're right to ask that question because
Speaker 1: there was like an undo amount of pressure just because
Speaker 1: it was Valentine's Day, like almost like there was an
Speaker 1: expectation for things to carry on afterwards, which is fine. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't I kind of think that you feel the
Speaker 1: same way. I don't know, we can get into it later,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that Valentine's Day is the most
Speaker 1: important day, and like it doesn't mean much to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Neither. Um. But it's funny
Speaker 1: because you always give me crap about how a girl
Speaker 1: could misunderstand the things that I'm saying get excited about it.
Speaker 1: I think that a guy not taking Valentine's Day seriously, um,
Speaker 1: and then a guy taking a girl out on Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day is doing exactly that. It's like if you take
Speaker 1: a girl out on Valentine's Dy, but you're like the
Speaker 1: entire time, you're like, like, I don't Valentine's Day doesn't
Speaker 1: mean anything to me. That they could just in their
Speaker 1: head and be like, oh well, he still took me
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, you know what I mean? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see that. I'd listen, if a guy takes you out,
Speaker 1: if anybody takes you out on a date on Valentine's Day,
Speaker 1: you were already probably assumed that they're being very serious
Speaker 1: about it. Right Valentine's Day, Right, they're choosing to spend
Speaker 1: it with you, even if it's the first date. The
Speaker 1: fact that the fact that I got a date on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, it was like reassuring because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she that means like she's fully single, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, if you're going on a first day
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day with someone, that means that they're probably
Speaker 1: not talking anyone else else, which is really like refreshing,
Speaker 1: because you know, you don't want to be one of
Speaker 1: five guys that this girl is talking to, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: For her, I'm sure it was the same, like she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be one of five girls that me
Speaker 1: or this guy is talking to. So that's like a
Speaker 1: that's like a nice perk, a pro if you will
Speaker 1: of dating someone or going on the first day on
Speaker 1: Valentine's So when was the last time you were in
Speaker 1: a relationship for Valentine's Day. I think two years ago.
Speaker 1: I think Leslie and I were dating for Valentine's Day's right,
Speaker 1: I forgot about that sky diving. Wow, what are you
Speaker 1: doing with Kalen this shirt? You haven't you? You guys
Speaker 1: haven't changed. Kiss. Well, we're in Tahoe with my great friends.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing for Valentine's Day's pretty good. That's
Speaker 1: like an old married couples Valentine's Day. I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like I had a So this morning I
Speaker 1: got Ashley flowers and chocolates and got it for before
Speaker 1: she woke up, so she woke up to it. And
Speaker 1: then I wrote her a note this is here and no,
Speaker 1: this is in California before we left for the airport.
Speaker 1: But she has yet to read the note because we
Speaker 1: woke up late or she woke up late and uh,
Speaker 1: we had to rush to the airport. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: I wrote like a little letter for I always write
Speaker 1: poems for. So they're rhyming. I'm a great rhymer. What
Speaker 1: kind of rhyme scheme do you typically go with? A
Speaker 1: B B A B A B. I don't really go
Speaker 1: as long as the words rhyme. I'm good with it.
Speaker 1: So the last word of each sentence, I'm a very
Speaker 1: likea what's that like? The what pia does? Anybody we're
Speaker 1: talking about? Was this poem you wrote? Was it romantic?
Speaker 1: Was it funny? Of course it's saying it's it's both.
Speaker 1: Like one of the lines, uh uh, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: one of the lines right now. It says, uh, my
Speaker 1: heart is a lock and you have the key. I
Speaker 1: love you so much. I love you more than Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: That's funny, right, So it's loving and yet that's a
Speaker 1: spoiler alert for Ashley. Hopefully she didn't hear doesn't listen
Speaker 1: to this, She hasn't read. She definitely doesn't listen to it.
Speaker 1: That's all right. When you really want to hear her
Speaker 1: husband talk about dating you want? It's really funny similarity
Speaker 1: that I can draw with that is in paradise. I
Speaker 1: wrote Calin poems for her birthday, just at randomly, I
Speaker 1: writer poems. And then right after that, yeah, but then
Speaker 1: you came back. But the poems, the poems are the
Speaker 1: most important to here. Let me ask you this because
Speaker 1: as a guy, I was actually talking to another guy,
Speaker 1: and as a human being, you only have so many
Speaker 1: tricks up her sleeve, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: so many things you feel confidently. So have you written
Speaker 1: poems or letters for other people in the past? I
Speaker 1: want a poetry competition in high school? Okay, I meant
Speaker 1: like in a significant loving um no, But I do
Speaker 1: think that those, even if it's a horrible poem, I
Speaker 1: think those are more meaningful than like the grandiose like
Speaker 1: expensive dinner, you know, all that kind of stuff, like
Speaker 1: like she's gonna read that and she's gonna be touched
Speaker 1: by Ashley is going to read that and be touched
Speaker 1: by it and laugh at it and feel more connected
Speaker 1: to you through that than she would if you were,
Speaker 1: if you know, you were to go like some extravagant
Speaker 1: date night count I think the flawful ones are won't better.
Speaker 1: I have a question, but we have answers. Do you
Speaker 1: guys feel weird ever buying your girls now? Roses? I
Speaker 1: would never buy, like do you go for daisies instead
Speaker 1: of a rose? I think even before Bachelor, I was
Speaker 1: always an anti rose guy. I don't buy her red
Speaker 1: roses now because each color has a different meaning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yellow means friendship, So would you buy her yellow. Um,
Speaker 1: she's my best friend one. But secondly, no, I bought
Speaker 1: her orange, which I think is passionate or I think
Speaker 1: that's like look it up orange orange. I think oranges.
Speaker 1: I like the the white pink ones very pretty. I
Speaker 1: think those are like cute, that's what they defined. That's
Speaker 1: cute anyway. So that's all you guys are doing. Well.
Speaker 1: Obviously we're kind of spending the whole day Intah together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we'll actually and I will get a dinner
Speaker 1: next week to kind of have like a romantic time nice. So, um,
Speaker 1: it is passionate romance. Okay, very well done. That's a
Speaker 1: good one. Now here's my question though, because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was actually talking to a buddy about this, and
Speaker 1: as a guy, when you're in relationships, like I said,
Speaker 1: just throughout your dating history, even as a girl, you
Speaker 1: have certain tricks that you do, write certain things that
Speaker 1: you feel confident in doing. So my question is, say
Speaker 1: you like write like write letters or write poems like
Speaker 1: for example, if I wrote a poem or a letter
Speaker 1: for a significant other in the past, should I feel
Speaker 1: guilty in any way doing that? For Ashley? Now, should
Speaker 1: I feel guilty towards as I see what you're saying,
Speaker 1: like you're recycling your old because like she could easily
Speaker 1: look at me and be like you used to do
Speaker 1: that for someone else, Like yes, but like it's I
Speaker 1: do different things too, but of course I'm going to
Speaker 1: do some similar things. There's only so many things I
Speaker 1: can do. So my question, I think it's weird. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think. I think you're very right about
Speaker 1: if you're If you're good at something and you feel
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it, and you know what makes the other
Speaker 1: person feel special, there's no reason not to continue to
Speaker 1: do it with new people later on. Weirdly, I would
Speaker 1: hate it. Why I'd be like, pick up a new
Speaker 1: pat like little uh little talent, sing me songs, but
Speaker 1: don't give me a poem. If you've given poems to
Speaker 1: girls in the past, trust me, if you heard me sing,
Speaker 1: you would not want me singing when you're in love.
Speaker 1: Anything's cute. Victorias sock puppet of herself and then make
Speaker 1: another sock puppet of you and then do a sock
Speaker 1: puppet show. I would love that. That would be different
Speaker 1: than a poem. If you written love poems for girls
Speaker 1: in the past and then for me, I would not
Speaker 1: like that. Well, here's the question. If you didn't know it,
Speaker 1: you know, as I guess then when I found out,
Speaker 1: so like for your own exactly, so you would be pissed.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it. But here's the thing, like what
Speaker 1: if the new thing that I do or the new
Speaker 1: gift doesn't level up to that old thing where she's
Speaker 1: like that poem was like the idea of writing new
Speaker 1: letter is so much better than what you do now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean here in my discarded tonail clippings,
Speaker 1: Like what if those are the two things that are
Speaker 1: comparing here or like you said, a sock puppet. I
Speaker 1: actually you don't like like just the tonails. It's funny.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you bring that up because Alex b
Speaker 1: who's my friend, he had the same thing. He was
Speaker 1: dating a girl who like wrote something about it and
Speaker 1: put it on Instagram and he was like, whoaa, don't
Speaker 1: be sharing that because like that's the thing that I do, Like,
Speaker 1: that's my thing that I do with the girl that
Speaker 1: I'm interested in. And by doing that, it's like then
Speaker 1: she's like then telling the world you know she did.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like she wasn't vidictive in doing it. But
Speaker 1: she was like, this is what he did for me,
Speaker 1: and this is how pleasant it was. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: this is what I do with everyone. Now you're kind
Speaker 1: of like taking that away from everyone else. Let me
Speaker 1: tell let me give you an example. So you want
Speaker 1: to justify yourself, go for it. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: justifying myself at all. Actually, I think I'm digging my
Speaker 1: own grave right now. But I'm doing it for suck.
Speaker 1: Army suck, suck, suck, sucks, suck, suck, suck, everybody suck.
Speaker 1: Okay uh. On Bachelorette, I wrote a poem for Caitlin
Speaker 1: and they aired it. Did you mention the word love
Speaker 1: in that poem? No? I ended it with a dumb
Speaker 1: and dumber quote, which was I said, you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of this, I'm gonna cross all my teas
Speaker 1: and and all my eyes with the dot and I
Speaker 1: just wanted to tell you, Caitlin, I like you. I
Speaker 1: like you a lot, a lot, and so like whatever, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, at the moment, it was just like, that's
Speaker 1: what I do, you know. I like expressing, expressing myself
Speaker 1: that way so hard exactly right. There's a part of
Speaker 1: me even when I do this, for actually like I
Speaker 1: feel guilty, and I'm like, I shouldn't feel guilty like
Speaker 1: that was in the past. This is the now, right,
Speaker 1: and obviously you're married Actuley Sait's different. But I just
Speaker 1: can't get out of my head that i'd be a
Speaker 1: little irritated. I think I see both sides of it.
Speaker 1: I think for me in my relationship, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to think back and think that
Speaker 1: I've done anything now that I used to do another relationships,
Speaker 1: probably because I just never did anything in relationship before.
Speaker 1: So it's like everything I'm doing now is brand new,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's hop out of a
Speaker 1: boyfriend I used to be. That's that's the point that
Speaker 1: I was trying to make used to be. I was
Speaker 1: paused for laughter that I did not receive. Used well,
Speaker 1: he said used to because he's he's a husband now
Speaker 1: now he's married, which is what I something I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask about you to had a question, Tori had
Speaker 1: to everybody's silent, Nope, just me and you, buddy. Uh.
Speaker 1: My question is there was articles coming out that I
Speaker 1: was reading that said Klin said you proposed over in Europe,
Speaker 1: please enlighten us question no that the articles quote unquote
Speaker 1: was an Elite Daily article. Can get the exact quote
Speaker 1: that referenced a comment that Calin responded to on her
Speaker 1: most recent Instagram picture, which has since been deleted by
Speaker 1: the original poster because people were attacking the poster. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was kind of silly. Anyways. She was like,
Speaker 1: she was responding to a comment and I just took
Speaker 1: her phone and I just wrote, he already proposed, he
Speaker 1: already did. Oh so you wrote it. Yes, I wrote
Speaker 1: this stupid comment. And I handed her the phone before
Speaker 1: I pressed the post button, and she was like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: this is funny, and then she posted it so that
Speaker 1: tapping noise you was tor tapping on Dean's apparent wedding
Speaker 1: band that he's wearing. Tan you, guys, I might quit
Speaker 1: this podcast if it's a continuation of teaming up on me.
Speaker 1: So you see, I like this. This is why I
Speaker 1: need you as a third host. It needs to be
Speaker 1: Dean so good with his words and so charming. I
Speaker 1: need because I had a teammate to on one literally
Speaker 1: Texas Danielle, and I said, can you please bring up food?
Speaker 1: I think Dean's a little angry right now. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're cranky. Love. We're all here to just learn you're
Speaker 1: not gonna wear rings. If you're gonna wear rings, and
Speaker 1: you've got to kind of address I've done a lot
Speaker 1: of driving in the past couple of days. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: a little tired. Who wrote the comment already? More moist? Pardon?
Speaker 1: So you're the one who wrote the comment. He already posed.
Speaker 1: The comment was he needs to propose already, and Calin responded,
Speaker 1: he already did, and I wrote the comment he already did.
Speaker 1: Hand keel on the phone and she pressed the post button.
Speaker 1: I guess my question is, would Calin say you proposed?
Speaker 1: My question is, how's my question? The Elite Daily write
Speaker 1: an article about a comment that was responded like, it's
Speaker 1: just you're grasping at straws there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a great picture of you two on the Elite Day.
Speaker 1: I hate that picture too. I look, I'm a hunchback
Speaker 1: of Notre damn. My hair like cuts off my shoulder,
Speaker 1: my buff shoulders too much in it, your shoulders rhythm. Look,
Speaker 1: how do you feel when people are saying, oh, they're married,
Speaker 1: they're married? How when you first initially saw that or
Speaker 1: you egg that on, do you kind of like that
Speaker 1: he loves it. He let's see because he's been anti marriage,
Speaker 1: but you kind of like seeing headlines saying marriage with
Speaker 1: Dean and Kaylyn. I'll call kayl and my wife sometimes,
Speaker 1: like if I if I make a reservation at a restaurant,
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, me and my wife are going to
Speaker 1: come in around eight, or we were at the hotel
Speaker 1: or night. I was like, Hey, can me and my
Speaker 1: wife get room service? Oh my god, are you married
Speaker 1: any Jared? Did you just hear that? No? Sorry, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta important text message. That's why. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he just said he refers to ye. That was as
Speaker 1: his wife at I heard that the hotel reservation with dinners.
Speaker 1: Are you That's different though, because if you did you
Speaker 1: ever call Ashley her your No. But I remember before
Speaker 1: we before we even got engaged, there be times we'd
Speaker 1: have hotels and they'd call and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: Mr Kennetti, we are not downplaying this. We're not downplaying this.
Speaker 1: He's initiating the conversation by saying, my wife, it's not
Speaker 1: being miss misunderstand. Sometimes you get like special privileges. When
Speaker 1: you say that stuff, though, have you ever used it
Speaker 1: to gain a special privilege? No, I just think it's
Speaker 1: fun to say. I don't. I'm not gonna say whether
Speaker 1: we're married or not. I'm going to keep a little
Speaker 1: bit of my personal person this as your friend, as
Speaker 1: as someone like yourself who doesn't believe in the institution
Speaker 1: to marriage, and someone like Calin who probably does. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's fun calling you my wife, but
Speaker 1: then also be like, I never want to get married.
Speaker 1: You know, we got a good we got a good
Speaker 1: thing going on over here. I'm not I'm not too
Speaker 1: worried about it. Please have Calin on this podcast. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: We need to hear her perspective on things. Um, if
Speaker 1: you want to hear what needs to happen, what needs
Speaker 1: to happen over you already married? What's yours is mine?
Speaker 1: The mine is yours podcast. I don't want to mix
Speaker 1: business and pleasure. I have a lot of fun doing this,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to mix that business with this.
Speaker 1: What about our pleasure? We mixed business and pleasure all
Speaker 1: the time being I'm saying this is the pleasure, she's
Speaker 1: the business. Okay, that makes another joke that I feel
Speaker 1: like my jokes. Okay, now it's one of those jokes
Speaker 1: that it took me a second like, Okay, no, that's funny. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get that now, but yes, that's not gonna happen. Ever,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's all right. Well, I guess we'll move
Speaker 1: on from this conversation. We do have some incredible guests
Speaker 1: calling in. Uh. We have some licensed therapist, we of
Speaker 1: an app creator called uh Relationship AI, and we have
Speaker 1: some Bachelor Nation members. They're gonna stop by. We've got
Speaker 1: some of your favorite Bachelor Nation uh uh contestants in
Speaker 1: the house with us here in Tahoe. They're gonna swing by,
Speaker 1: give us their take on what Valentine's Day means to them,
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do for their significant other, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss that. To stick around
Speaker 1: and we will be right back. Welcome back to help
Speaker 1: I suck at dating live from Tahoe. We have very
Speaker 1: special guests. That is on the line right now. She
Speaker 1: has been seen on dr oz, HLN, Fox, ABC, NBC, ABC, Cosmos,
Speaker 1: Holton Post, Washington Post, Today, Bravo. Just to name a few.
Speaker 1: She's also a leading celebrity matchmaker, relationship expert and CEO
Speaker 1: of Exclusive Matchmaking. It is Susan Trumpetty, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Was that? How is that? Yeah? Sorry, we're just introduction.
Speaker 1: You know, I just tried to build people up, but
Speaker 1: it's really not that hard to build you up, Susan.
Speaker 1: You have a pretty extensive resume. So thank you for
Speaker 1: coming back on the podcast. Oh I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: be here. You know, I love talking to you. Guys.
Speaker 1: Know you're actually in a car right now. You're not driving,
Speaker 1: but you have a funny Valentine's Day because today is
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Uh, you have a little funny Valentine's Day story.
Speaker 1: Your car actually broke down on your way back to
Speaker 1: your home. Yes, something happened. I just came back, um
Speaker 1: from the airport, and to make a long story short,
Speaker 1: I had I realized, you know, because I'm not one
Speaker 1: of those women. I realized I have no oil in
Speaker 1: my car. I can hear my rod knocking, so I
Speaker 1: had to call my Valentine's and he came to pick
Speaker 1: me up. That sounds like a like a modern dating term.
Speaker 1: Have you been Rod knocked. My rod's been knocking me
Speaker 1: all week. Yeah, but you're you're beautiful and wonderful. Hobby
Speaker 1: picked you up right, Yes, my told Arken Hansel, He's
Speaker 1: like right here with me. He picked me up and
Speaker 1: so then I kissed him really quick, and I said, baby,
Speaker 1: it's my rod. It's so little wingnu on. Your rod
Speaker 1: came to pick you up after the other rod wasn't working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, let's go home enjoy Valentine's Day. We can
Speaker 1: worry about that later. Susan So. Okay, So, as a
Speaker 1: celebrity matchmaker, what type of advice do you have for
Speaker 1: your clients on a day like Valentine's Day? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I always say, like, whether you're single or whether you're
Speaker 1: with someone else, right with your with someone else, you
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge it. Um, being single and Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: is great for business for me. But don't you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's just another day, right,
Speaker 1: So don't go off the deep end if you're single,
Speaker 1: I mean, have fun, acknowledge it. There's lots of love
Speaker 1: all around you, whether it's romantic love or it's love
Speaker 1: with your your gal pals, or you know, little kids
Speaker 1: all around you, but it's an exciting day to flirt
Speaker 1: and have fun. Right, So you see an increase in
Speaker 1: clientele around this time of year because people are either
Speaker 1: trying to find a Valentine's Day. Say it's Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: and they're single. Do they reach out to you or
Speaker 1: is it just like do you do with that? Do
Speaker 1: you just basically, like you said, just tell everyone to
Speaker 1: just treat it as another day. Let's say someone's like,
Speaker 1: let's put you Let's give you an example. Let's say
Speaker 1: someone's freshly in a relationship that maybe you set them
Speaker 1: up on. Do they come to you it for advice
Speaker 1: and then you kind of tell them what they should
Speaker 1: be doing for Valentine's Day? Yeah? Yes, So I'll give
Speaker 1: you an example. Okay, So I had clients that went
Speaker 1: out on a date last night with a new woman
Speaker 1: and a new match and he for whatever reason, okay,
Speaker 1: but I think it has something to do with he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to seem like it's desperate. He's desperate and
Speaker 1: it's Valentine's Day. She because oh my god, he must
Speaker 1: not be interested. I didn't hear back from him, so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm rushing down the road in the car. Okay,
Speaker 1: I hope no police were listening to this. So I
Speaker 1: pull over and I say, look, it's Valentine's Day. She's
Speaker 1: a dynamo. She's your match, even if you don't know
Speaker 1: it yet. You need to text her now. And he goes, okay,
Speaker 1: and I should ask her out, And I'm like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you ask her out. So you have to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing. And that's what I tell my clients, like,
Speaker 1: don't let that go by. And then as far as protocol,
Speaker 1: do they get flowers, chocolates? Do they take them to
Speaker 1: a nice restaurant? Like what is kind of the advice
Speaker 1: that you typically like to give out to these types
Speaker 1: of people that are either starting a new relationship or
Speaker 1: hoping to start new relationship. Well, so I always say
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. Okay, So if you're starting a relationship, there's
Speaker 1: always like appropriate gifts for each point in time in
Speaker 1: a relationship. So when it comes down to um, when
Speaker 1: it comes down to like a new relationship and you
Speaker 1: go out on a date with them, I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't need to show up with a dozen roses, right,
Speaker 1: but you can show up with something appropriate, something fun,
Speaker 1: like those little kitty Valentine's cards, you remember them, And
Speaker 1: I mean you can show up with that a box
Speaker 1: of chocolates if you're only dating two or three months.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, perfume is always nice. If you're
Speaker 1: dating six months, a little heart necklace. So you've got
Speaker 1: to find the appropriate gift for the stage in your relationship.
Speaker 1: So you're saying it all comes down to timing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean, like in this case, this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: it's too much pressure to go out on a date
Speaker 1: on Valentine's They just met for the first time last night, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, definitely you need to acknowledge it. You met her,
Speaker 1: you know, make make a phone call to ur whatever,
Speaker 1: and I told me the text or in this case
Speaker 1: because us, you know, everybody texts after a day and
Speaker 1: said I had a great time, but I asked her
Speaker 1: out again. Yeah. I would definitely not say you should
Speaker 1: go on a first date on Valentine's Day. Too much,
Speaker 1: too much pressure. If you're single, though, don't you just
Speaker 1: want to hang out with your friends on Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Really you don't want your susan Well, well, listen,
Speaker 1: listen if you're single. It depends like, are you going
Speaker 1: out with your girlfriends and having a great time And
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that, right, like going out in
Speaker 1: Holland and having a great time and flirt with everybody
Speaker 1: that passes your way, Right, Susan, what are you getting into?
Speaker 1: So I just pulled in from New York, right, So
Speaker 1: we're going to have a dinner. Okay, We're having a chef,
Speaker 1: come in, light some candles, okay, and just you know,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna enjoy because I tell you something, So
Speaker 1: my day started off early with my husband because my
Speaker 1: husband first called me. Always tell people this on Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day and he was totally unaware. So anyway, so we
Speaker 1: celebrate it. I can't even tell you half of what
Speaker 1: we said today to each other, but it's been flirty
Speaker 1: all day. Has been married, Oh so we've been married
Speaker 1: fifteen years, we've been together twenty years, Okay, and it's spicy,
Speaker 1: keeping it hot all day long with the emojis and flirtation.
Speaker 1: And that's what was what emojis did you send him?
Speaker 1: What was lot emoji sent him? Come on, give us
Speaker 1: a hint. Is it purple, Susan? It sounds like we
Speaker 1: gotta give you and your husband some space here. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling on the podcast and
Speaker 1: giving our listeners some advice for Valentine's Day. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you've got a fantastic night a heavy Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Susan, take care of happy Valentine's take, guys.
Speaker 1: Nice talking to you. If for the listeners out there,
Speaker 1: if you guys want to find Susan, you can check
Speaker 1: her out on Twitter because she does live tweet, Bachelor
Speaker 1: posts episode and all that kind of stuff. She does
Speaker 1: have a website it's called Exclusive Matchmaking dot Net, so
Speaker 1: be sure to go on and check that out and
Speaker 1: see if she can help you out get matched and
Speaker 1: find the Valentine's for next year. Since starting to it
Speaker 1: for this year, Bachelor Live tweeter always a good follow
Speaker 1: Take care of guys. Thank you. Well, sorry I didn't
Speaker 1: know Susan was still Alie. All right, and we are
Speaker 1: back and now we have Jamie Bronstein and Jamie I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if I mispronounced the last name there. But for
Speaker 1: the listeners out there, Jamie is a talk radio host
Speaker 1: Love Talk Live. She has a licensed therapist relationship expert,
Speaker 1: so she is the woman to have on the phone
Speaker 1: for us today for our Valentine's Day episode, Jamie, how
Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing? Wow? How are you guys? We're good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling us. Obviously, we have
Speaker 1: a special episode dating podcast. It's the biggest dating day
Speaker 1: of the year, Valentine's Day. Help by second, Dating goes
Speaker 1: together like like peanut butter and pickles. Peanut butter and pickles. Baby. So, Jamie,
Speaker 1: So we're just gonna fire some questions at you. So
Speaker 1: being a love X, I'm gonna go ahead and label
Speaker 1: you as a love expert. Okay, can you give our
Speaker 1: listeners because we have listeners that are single, listeners that
Speaker 1: are just starting in a relationship, listeners that have been
Speaker 1: in a relationship for years, decades, however long. What type
Speaker 1: of advice would you have for anyone out there the
Speaker 1: different stages of gifts to give their partner, Like, let's
Speaker 1: say you've been dating zero to six months, seven to
Speaker 1: twelve months, what kind of gifts do you like to
Speaker 1: see people give each other for Valentine's Day? Okay, zero
Speaker 1: to six I would say go with something that you're
Speaker 1: giving the message that you definitely are interested in the person.
Speaker 1: Um and depending at the stage you're add like some
Speaker 1: people get engaged within six months, you know, but definitely
Speaker 1: keep it light but with a meaningful message. So you
Speaker 1: can do jewelry. There's nothing wrong with jewelry. Um. And
Speaker 1: also the cards. I'm huge, huge fan of what you
Speaker 1: write in the cards. So right, everything that you feel
Speaker 1: that you're feeling, you know, don't hold anything back. So
Speaker 1: i'd say good cards and jewelry is a good thing
Speaker 1: for zero sex. I have, I have a question, so
Speaker 1: I would I'm gonna go out on a limb here
Speaker 1: and say that our listener base is predominantly female. So
Speaker 1: as a female that's maybe interested in a in a
Speaker 1: guy that's going on a date for Valentine's Day, what
Speaker 1: do you like to see the women by the men? If?
Speaker 1: Or if nothing at all? So I think it's really
Speaker 1: important that you know, equal. We live in an equal world.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so girls do something cute like get a
Speaker 1: couple's massage. You can't even do it together, you know,
Speaker 1: So do a couple's massage. Or I used to like
Speaker 1: when I was saying, I used to always love like
Speaker 1: surprising the guys. So do you like say I'm going
Speaker 1: to take you out in date, I'm planning the whole
Speaker 1: thing because a lot of times the guys planned the date.
Speaker 1: So either like a surprise or even like a staycation
Speaker 1: somewhere go to the beach if you live somewhere warm,
Speaker 1: or just do something really romantic that involves both of you.
Speaker 1: A lot of times girls can do like sexy lingerie
Speaker 1: because that's the gift for both. That's a gift that
Speaker 1: keeps on giving. Yeah, like a gift for yourself. But
Speaker 1: then also the guy likes it. Yeah, and then maybe
Speaker 1: next years Valentine's you can you can say it's a
Speaker 1: different guy, you could you know, Yeah, you can reuse it.
Speaker 1: I do not recommend it if it's different to him. Um,
Speaker 1: you said you're you said you're not single anymore, right,
Speaker 1: but there is there is a big movement for Singles
Speaker 1: Awareness Day. So what do you say for people that
Speaker 1: are maybe experiencing the Valentine's blues that don't have a partner,
Speaker 1: that want to celebrate their singleness. Do you have any
Speaker 1: advice for them? Yes, just live it up, you know what, Like,
Speaker 1: just be present and enjoy the moment because you're going
Speaker 1: to find your person at some point, and by being
Speaker 1: sad about it. It's it's kind of a waste of time,
Speaker 1: you know, so eventually you're gonna meet your person. So
Speaker 1: just live it up, go out with your friends, and
Speaker 1: also think about it. The guys and the girls that
Speaker 1: were at the singles bar the week before, they're still
Speaker 1: going to be there. They're still single, and especially on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, everybody's looking to hook up and maybe something more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: distract themselves a little bit, you know. And this year specifically,
Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, the planets have aligned because it's
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day on a Friday, exactly. I mean, it's so
Speaker 1: anybody who's listening, who's sad? Okay, unless your soul, feel
Speaker 1: your emotions, feel the sadness. But then take a shower,
Speaker 1: put the makeup on. If you're a guy, don't put
Speaker 1: makeum on, but just you know, get yourself, put some
Speaker 1: cologne on, put some air force ones. I think that
Speaker 1: we should just get rid of Valentine's Day. I'm over
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. This is coming from a married man. I
Speaker 1: don't think we should celebrate being single. I don't think
Speaker 1: we should celebrate being a relationship. Every day should be
Speaker 1: just a celebration or whatever you have. You know, I
Speaker 1: just Valentine's Day. There's so much pressure and you gotta
Speaker 1: buy gifts and you spend money, and it's all this ridiculousness.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that? Do you? What? Do you?
Speaker 1: What are your overall thoughts about Valentine's Day in general? Okay,
Speaker 1: First of all, my name ji Ami means I love
Speaker 1: in French, so jam jamie, so I love love and
Speaker 1: I love. Yes. I agree with you that every day
Speaker 1: we should be appreciating who we're with. We should be
Speaker 1: appreciating who we're dating. We should be appreciating the fact
Speaker 1: that we will meet somebody someday. Um. And yes, I
Speaker 1: understand it's a hallmark holiday, but it is like a
Speaker 1: great excuse. Let's say you haven't gone on a date
Speaker 1: in a while. It's an excuse to reconnect. So I
Speaker 1: totally understand what you're saying. But I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of Valentine's Day. Interesting. I don't know if you should
Speaker 1: need an excuse to reconnect. I think like every few months,
Speaker 1: if you find yourself not reconnecting, you need to realize
Speaker 1: we need to connect exactly. It could be a problem.
Speaker 1: I always recommend to my clients who who are in
Speaker 1: relationships and even just starting to date. Make sure that
Speaker 1: you're going on a date at least three nights a week. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, Like, if somebody needs a reminder
Speaker 1: wanting here to reconnect, I think you have some bigger issues.
Speaker 1: I agree that makes sense, and I do agree, But
Speaker 1: there are like married people and then they have the
Speaker 1: kids and then it's you don't have totally right. Well, Jamie,
Speaker 1: thank you so much you're joining us. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: got your hands full of today, of all days of
Speaker 1: the year. Given the fact that you are a love
Speaker 1: guru for the listeners out there, be sure to check
Speaker 1: her out on Love Talk Live on l A Talk Radio. Um, Jamie,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us and best of luck
Speaker 1: with thanks for having me. Happy Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day,
Speaker 1: what do we think so you want to just abolish
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day altogether? It sounds like see, I feel like
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day has turned into the opposite. No, it's no
Speaker 1: longer about celebrating your partner now. I feel like Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day is a holiday for singles to just feel bad
Speaker 1: about themselves. So instead of of this day where if
Speaker 1: you're single, you just feel worse about yourself. Why not
Speaker 1: just get rid of the holiday so everybody is still
Speaker 1: happy in a relationship and you don't have to focus
Speaker 1: one day out of the year solely about either you're
Speaker 1: in a relationship or you're not, because, like, it's different
Speaker 1: from other holidays because Christmas is about family, Thanksgivings about family,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, where Valentine's Day is solely
Speaker 1: only about intimacy love. So just get rid of it
Speaker 1: because it's just like, like I've paid a hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for flowers today. You know you actually paid a hundred
Speaker 1: dollars for flowers, well close to it. Still it's very expensive. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. I think Valentine's Day is
Speaker 1: incredibly important because, like I said earlier, it validates your
Speaker 1: love for the other person, and the only way you
Speaker 1: can do that is by buying them expensive things, especially
Speaker 1: on inflated days of the year where that seventy dollar
Speaker 1: bouquet flowers probably would have cost fifteen dollars. And the
Speaker 1: other day of the year. You're really bad at being trarian,
Speaker 1: You're you're you're proving my own point. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think you can put a fiscal number. Uh, you
Speaker 1: can quantify the value that someone has in your life
Speaker 1: by how much money you spend on them on the day.
Speaker 1: Would you get absolutely nothing? What'd she get you anything?
Speaker 1: She has actually did get her something, but it's waiting
Speaker 1: for us back in Los Angeles. Shout out to Tahoe
Speaker 1: because we're recording live from here in the beautiful North
Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe. Is she got me something also back in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, so neither of us know what we got
Speaker 1: each other. But you'll exchange gifts later. You guys did
Speaker 1: the same to the Christmas. You exchange gifts way in
Speaker 1: the way after. We're not really good timeliness. That's okay. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we have another guest coming on, Karina Carston, who has
Speaker 1: a new interesting app called Relationship Ai, which apparently is
Speaker 1: going to help us begin dating smarter, which I'm interested
Speaker 1: to hear more about. And obviously she's probably got some
Speaker 1: It's crazy how much dating stuff is out there nowadays.
Speaker 1: This dating podcast, we have a million dating talk shows,
Speaker 1: dating apps. From someone hosting a dating podcast. I probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't say this, but I feel like it's too much
Speaker 1: because now we're getting into the stage where we're overthinking
Speaker 1: dating and it never was meant to be overthought. You know,
Speaker 1: you go, if you like someone, you continue seeing them,
Speaker 1: and then you fall in love, or you don't fall
Speaker 1: in love and then the relationship ends. But now it's
Speaker 1: this constant like well he said in a text this,
Speaker 1: and but did he really mean that? Am I overthinking it?
Speaker 1: I have to wait to respond? Or now we're getting
Speaker 1: all these dates like literally how many dating terms have
Speaker 1: been formed within the past two years, like benching, bread crumbing, ghosting,
Speaker 1: all these things, and it's like, maybe we're all just
Speaker 1: overthinking it a little too much. I agree. But while
Speaker 1: you're overthinking it, you might as well listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast and just zone out, because we don't think much
Speaker 1: when we're on here. Now we're just too idiots, few
Speaker 1: nonsense and taho over here. Anyways, we're gonna give Karina
Speaker 1: call and see if you can get it on the
Speaker 1: line here. Welcome back, suck Army. We have another special
Speaker 1: guest on the line right now. She has her brand
Speaker 1: new dating app, Relationship AI, which you can download today.
Speaker 1: It is Karina Carston Latest and Karina, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us on the podcast. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me. Have you heard that that pounding
Speaker 1: sound in the background, That was apause sumping his thigh
Speaker 1: for a ruckets applause Introducing you, Karina wasled the mic.
Speaker 1: On one hand, it's very difficulty now we're not in studios,
Speaker 1: so we can't get really have around of applause. But Karina,
Speaker 1: how is your Valentine's Day going so far? It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm actually up in Santa Barbara and it's a gorgeous
Speaker 1: day and just loving, loving life here with my husband.
Speaker 1: So tell us about your dating app relationship AI. So,
Speaker 1: just like tracking your steps or your calories, it's now
Speaker 1: time to track and evaluate our dating activity. Okay, we
Speaker 1: need to hear more about this. Sounds intriguing, so okay. So,
Speaker 1: and for the listeners out there, if you were to
Speaker 1: go to the app store, you can look up relationship AI.
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna give a brief description of what
Speaker 1: I see. It looks like I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I'm dating, and then as I'm dating them,
Speaker 1: I rate them right. Every text, call, in person, meeting,
Speaker 1: hang out, sleep over, you can plug in and evaluate
Speaker 1: and that will give you your own personal metrics and
Speaker 1: data to really see how well things are going. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're for you, we're moving towards the data driven life,
Speaker 1: So I don't you why not? Why can't we move
Speaker 1: our dating towards it? Can you give us an example
Speaker 1: of how data would trans you know, how we would
Speaker 1: able to know if we're a better data data by
Speaker 1: getting data on it. Well, often are short sided. EGO
Speaker 1: perceives our dating activity in a certain way, and that's
Speaker 1: just based on our you know, experiences, and and that
Speaker 1: can be limited. So what this does, what relationship AI does,
Speaker 1: is give you the bigger picture on what is really occurring,
Speaker 1: and so you get clarity, you get confidence, and you
Speaker 1: get to effectively and efficiently move forward in your dating
Speaker 1: life so that you can create the relationship outcomes that
Speaker 1: you truly want. I think it's incredibly interesting. And the
Speaker 1: way that I see the app is, let's say you
Speaker 1: go on a date with a guy named Dan, you
Speaker 1: get done, you get home from your date, and then
Speaker 1: you basically fill out the sliders like was the communication easy?
Speaker 1: How comfortable were we talking about your career? And right
Speaker 1: you're you're basically feeling that in lifetime After the day
Speaker 1: and then exactly. Let's say you have a couple of
Speaker 1: dates a week. At the end of the week, you
Speaker 1: can see which date because like, I guess it's easy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's difficult to look back in hindsight and
Speaker 1: be like, I remember exactly how I was feeling right
Speaker 1: after that date. But you kind of have like an overbroad, overarching,
Speaker 1: broad idea. So this allows you to quantitatively be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the person that I had a better time
Speaker 1: with immediately following the date. Right, you get fuzzy, you
Speaker 1: get super fuzzy, and then those things that were red flags,
Speaker 1: like in the moment you like go oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let that slide. And and this allows you to actually
Speaker 1: input your red flags and like, see what is really happening?
Speaker 1: And I think, what we we've done this for business
Speaker 1: for decades now, but we have never applied data and
Speaker 1: metrics to our personal lives. So we can actually make
Speaker 1: better decisions and and feel really empowered about it and
Speaker 1: have fun fun. I gotta tell you it's crazy, but
Speaker 1: it might just be crazy enough to work. Well. I
Speaker 1: can I be a contrarian just because it absolutely human
Speaker 1: beings evoke emotion, right and we make a lot of
Speaker 1: decisions based on emotion, yes, and so this seems a
Speaker 1: little bit more analytical. Do you think that is the
Speaker 1: smart way to approach dating, more analytical rather than emotion based. Well,
Speaker 1: you certainly can have all the emotions you want in
Speaker 1: the moment, but then but then at at the time
Speaker 1: of evaluation, you can actually go okay, like were those
Speaker 1: emotions valid? Like did I really have a super high
Speaker 1: response to this person? You know, you can actually put
Speaker 1: in like an emoji for exactly how you felt, like
Speaker 1: you have the instant feeling, and then you can break
Speaker 1: it down and go deeper and say, oh, well, like
Speaker 1: I really didn't feel that comfortable, you know, in this
Speaker 1: particular in our communication, but I felt really comfortable with
Speaker 1: the affection. So it's like giving you, you like, a
Speaker 1: particular detail to actually evaluate your own emotions. Interesting. I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting. It's something I never would have thought of,
Speaker 1: But honestly, I can see the I can see the
Speaker 1: utility in it. Well, it's something I definitely I would
Speaker 1: try out just to see what it's like. I would
Speaker 1: love taste you guys try it out. Well, unfortunately we're
Speaker 1: both taken. I guess you could do like a week
Speaker 1: by day by day maybe with the same person like
Speaker 1: on Monday. Absolutely can Yeah, okay, just with one person exactly,
Speaker 1: So we can do this even though we're both in relationships.
Speaker 1: Totally have your mates try it. There you go, and
Speaker 1: for the listeners out there. So let's say you're going
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day date, you could always download relationship AI
Speaker 1: and be sure to log your date with the person
Speaker 1: that you went on a date with and see how
Speaker 1: he stacks up against the other people, or he or
Speaker 1: she stacks up against the other people you do. I
Speaker 1: don't want to give Ashley any any data on my
Speaker 1: dating performance. I will say what she can come up
Speaker 1: to and be like, you cuddled with me at the
Speaker 1: time of the first six months of dating, and now
Speaker 1: you're cuddling with me at a rate This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: This is not why I married you. I I don't
Speaker 1: need numbers behind our arguments. Well, what it actually does
Speaker 1: is gives you at platform for conversation that's super super
Speaker 1: interesting and growth oriented. So you actually can instead of
Speaker 1: like waiting for like a year and a half two
Speaker 1: things get really like, oh god, this is not with
Speaker 1: the way it started. You can like actually see where
Speaker 1: it's headed. It's like, wait, this is an opportunity for
Speaker 1: it has to have a conversation about something that's kind
Speaker 1: of a sticking point. I think it's cool, Kareena. I
Speaker 1: think it's a great idea. I'm glad that we're exploring
Speaker 1: because it's so unique. You know, you see a lot
Speaker 1: of dating things out there, and this is the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever heard of anything like this, and I
Speaker 1: think that's awesome. So for the listeners out there that
Speaker 1: want to give Karina's apple try, it's called Relationship AI.
Speaker 1: You can find it in the app Store, at least
Speaker 1: on my iPhone I saw. I'm sure you could get
Speaker 1: it on a droid too. Android is coming out later
Speaker 1: this year. Gotcha, Okay, great, So for the listeners out there,
Speaker 1: I phone check out Relationship AI and later this year
Speaker 1: if you have a droid, you can find it there
Speaker 1: as well. Coarina, before you go, just give us one
Speaker 1: piece of advice for single people on Valentine's Day and
Speaker 1: one piece of advice for somebody in a relationship on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Well, for all the singles out there, just
Speaker 1: love life today and whether that's with a personal self
Speaker 1: care moment do that, or just go and have some
Speaker 1: fun with friends and and also work on some of
Speaker 1: those dating apps that you're on, like Swipe, swipe a few,
Speaker 1: have a couple of conversation starters, and just have fun,
Speaker 1: love life, love it. There we go, Coarena, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Have a great Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: in Santa Barbara, and uh best of luck with the app.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Guys, have a right not yourself
Speaker 1: happy Valentine's Happy Valentine's Day. Bye. I like it. I
Speaker 1: know you didn't seem to be the biggest fan of it.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. I mean, it's just not I'm
Speaker 1: not a data oriented person when it comes to dating. Listen.
Speaker 1: I feel like so many decisions that I've made in
Speaker 1: the past or based off like gut feelings, my emotions.
Speaker 1: Most of the time. When I put data or like
Speaker 1: I overthink situations, that's when I make the wrong decision.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good way to say organized. Let's
Speaker 1: say your dating like two fifteen people at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's a good way for you to like Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have folders within the dating app where you
Speaker 1: can put like Dean Jared, Greg Jack, Jim Tom, you know,
Speaker 1: like Tori does when she's dating all her seven different guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think it's got a peel. I like it.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. It's again, I like it because
Speaker 1: it's so different. It's different, it's so unique, and that
Speaker 1: is I will say, it's coming from a different angle
Speaker 1: and AI perspective of dating. So it gives you statistics
Speaker 1: that is interesting enough. However, I don't think I would
Speaker 1: be able to do it because I think I would Again, Well,
Speaker 1: what you said earlier in the phone too is a
Speaker 1: lot of I think that goes in line with dating
Speaker 1: is you can't really quantify a feeling. So it's like
Speaker 1: they might not be scoring well on the app, but
Speaker 1: you feel good around them, And I think that's like
Speaker 1: you can't really calculate that. You know what this reminds
Speaker 1: me of all and came, Polly, you ever seen that movie?
Speaker 1: I watched it like watching the hospital and I broke
Speaker 1: my life. Okay, So Ben Stiller plays a risk analysis
Speaker 1: life insurance, life insurance, so that's what he does. He
Speaker 1: announced he gives analysts of risk and so that entire
Speaker 1: movie is based upon like you can't put numbers for
Speaker 1: the relationship because he's dating Jen Aniston. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: He should go back with his ex wife. Yes, but
Speaker 1: in his gut tells him to go to Jen. I know,
Speaker 1: but it's actually in the movie. I will say the
Speaker 1: computer does say that he should be with Jen, and
Speaker 1: then he doesn't believe it. I remember that part. No,
Speaker 1: I thought the computer said that he should be with
Speaker 1: his ex wife. Now, remember he put the numbers in
Speaker 1: and the computer was loading on the boat, and then
Speaker 1: they later find out that it said. He was like,
Speaker 1: something must be wrong because it's saying that I should
Speaker 1: go with Jennifer Anderson's character. Anyways, sorry for the spoiler
Speaker 1: alert audience. Yeah, sixteen years later if you haven't seen
Speaker 1: the movie yet, Sorry about that, guys. Anyways, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take one quick break and we're gonna jump right back
Speaker 1: into it. We've got some great guests up here in Tahoe,
Speaker 1: some good friends. You know who's here. Kalin's here, she
Speaker 1: should come on. Anyways, we're gonna take one quick break
Speaker 1: and we will have some of those guests, but not
Speaker 1: all of them on the podcast. Stick around, all right,
Speaker 1: and we are back with one of Bachelor Nation's favorite
Speaker 1: couple and on the Valentine's Day episode, it's so fitting
Speaker 1: that they're here. Uh, Like we said, we're not going
Speaker 1: to share who they are. They're both going to talk.
Speaker 1: They're both spoilers. I'm going to tell us about their
Speaker 1: Valentine's plans, etcetera, etcetera, And maybe you the listener, can
Speaker 1: surmise who they might be. So welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Our two mystery guests, two men to female. Welcome to podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, two men too, female. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: that they'll be able to figure out pretty quickly that
Speaker 1: it's a man and a woman. Sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: I sound like a woman or two men. It sounds
Speaker 1: like maybe there we go. So for the listeners out there,
Speaker 1: it is our Valentine's episode, What do you guys have
Speaker 1: planned for this year's Valentine's Because it is your first
Speaker 1: Valentine's together, second Valentine's together. That's a clue right there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a clue. Second before wright, before we get into
Speaker 1: this year's what did you guys do last year for
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? We? What did we? Oh? We celebrated early.
Speaker 1: We celebrated early because his friends from the UK came
Speaker 1: in on Valentine's Day, so we were with his I
Speaker 1: don't want to say any names, but his friends and
Speaker 1: family got you nice, okay. And then and then this year,
Speaker 1: what do you guys have planned? He almost said your name?
Speaker 1: He my mystery man is surprising me tonight with um,
Speaker 1: I don't even know with what. Something special. Hopefully it'll
Speaker 1: it'll be a pre dinner drinks at a can I
Speaker 1: say the name eight eighteen sixty eight and uh. And
Speaker 1: then we're going to dinner after that at a place
Speaker 1: that I can't tell you because it's surprised. Oh what
Speaker 1: a god, that's just so sir. How did you come
Speaker 1: up with this idea to take this wonderful woman on
Speaker 1: this mystery day? Like where did you get the ideas
Speaker 1: to go to these place? Um? Just from living in
Speaker 1: the area of the past ten years. And then I
Speaker 1: have a good friend that knows all the hot spots
Speaker 1: in Reno. Nice. He's best. He's with the Reno Tahoe
Speaker 1: Tourism Board. It's good to have a guy on the inside,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's why I keep him around. Yeah, yeah, smart,
Speaker 1: so miss uh? If I made um, I want to
Speaker 1: know if your mystery man is a mushball because he
Speaker 1: comes off you are like I can't say your name,
Speaker 1: it's so weird, but you're You're a man's man. You
Speaker 1: know you you are? You are. I get mush ball vibes.
Speaker 1: Well I don't. I get mush ball vibes too, but
Speaker 1: like in exterior sense, like I see you outside with
Speaker 1: your shirt off, chopping lumber, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like like you like to go camping all that kind
Speaker 1: of Yeah, you're like you're but you just like you
Speaker 1: just seem like the biggest sap mushball, sweetest warmest guy ever. Miss.
Speaker 1: I want to know who who the real mystery Man
Speaker 1: is he? I would say no, he it when when
Speaker 1: he really like feels his feelings deep and lets out
Speaker 1: those tears. It's few and far between, but when he does,
Speaker 1: it's amazing. But he's very sweet. He's he's I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say I'm USh ball in that. He's, you know, very
Speaker 1: overly emotional at all, but but he's always very good
Speaker 1: at um, always complimenting me and making me feel very
Speaker 1: special and showing me love that way. The reason I
Speaker 1: asked is because when the mystery Man was describing the
Speaker 1: day tonight he had a massive grant how giddy he was.
Speaker 1: And you can tell that he's also so giddy because
Speaker 1: he's surprising you and it's fun and you like planning.
Speaker 1: He we also have been apart for a while because
Speaker 1: of work work, so so this is our first time
Speaker 1: seeing each other in what like over a week, and
Speaker 1: so I like as much as I love being here
Speaker 1: with you guys today, I'm ready to get back to
Speaker 1: the hotel room with him. I bet he's very excited
Speaker 1: to go. Sor I want to hang out with you
Speaker 1: guys a little bit longer. But I get it. You
Speaker 1: got We're going. He doesn't care as long as Patty's
Speaker 1: eyes are closed. I guess should we announce to the
Speaker 1: listeners who are well, how about this give us a
Speaker 1: clue to each give a clue to the audience of
Speaker 1: who you are. I'm going to give a clue for him,
Speaker 1: and so I'm going to give him. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that he if you watched the show, he gave everyone
Speaker 1: Dad vibes right away, like Daddy vibes, like Daddy d Dean.
Speaker 1: I will say, I mean, he gives he gives your
Speaker 1: van a run for its money. That's right. That is right.
Speaker 1: I forgot about the van. That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: And he was the one that caught my I right
Speaker 1: away and stayed till the end. And so, mystery man,
Speaker 1: can you give a clue about the mystery lady? Oh? Wow? Um?
Speaker 1: Who without giving it away? Without giving away? Who is?
Speaker 1: Who's the mystery lady? Oh? My no, she said his name.
Speaker 1: Damn it. Heather, All right, let's go ahead and pretend
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. I still think that Garrett should describe
Speaker 1: the mystery. Yeah. I know who the woman is, so uh,
Speaker 1: she was engaged and then broken up. That is the clue. First,
Speaker 1: I think I know who it is. She has a
Speaker 1: Minnesotan accent, not like I'm the best dog momb that
Speaker 1: owns the cutest corgy in the world. Damn, that's what
Speaker 1: she wanted. You lead with my past relationship. Well, if
Speaker 1: you haven't guessed yet, help I suck it. Becka and
Speaker 1: Garrett on the podcast Surprise Surprise. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: anyone could have gotten So you guys, can you're heading
Speaker 1: into Rena tonight for Tin's They did. Yes, that Garrett
Speaker 1: set up for Becca. It all makes sense now I
Speaker 1: can piece it together. Now I know who they are
Speaker 1: that you can use. Yeah, exactly, Garrett, you have my
Speaker 1: all time favorite. I'm I watched The Bachelor, but I
Speaker 1: don't religiously watch it, and so but I watched most
Speaker 1: of your season and I there was one moment towards
Speaker 1: the end. It was my favorite moment in the history
Speaker 1: of Bachelor anything, excluding obviously stuff with Ashley and I. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a part at the end where you were
Speaker 1: talking about Becca and I think it was the final two,
Speaker 1: and you started getting emotional and and you and you
Speaker 1: looked up in the camera and you had tears in
Speaker 1: your eyes and you were just like, I love the
Speaker 1: way she says bag. Yeah, and that was it, and
Speaker 1: you were like, I love the way she says bag.
Speaker 1: And Ashley and I looked at each other at that
Speaker 1: moment and was like, that is the sweetest moment I've
Speaker 1: ever seen on this show. Because so many times and
Speaker 1: you guys can attest this for watching the show, it's
Speaker 1: very overexaggerated lines. You know, she's the person I want
Speaker 1: to spend the rest of my life with. I can
Speaker 1: only see me being with him for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. I love him. He's my soul mate. He's
Speaker 1: he moves my world. Blah blah blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it's for me, I guess, a little
Speaker 1: cliche and overly used, and like you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: almost like a formulaic. At this point in that moment
Speaker 1: when you said that, I could tell how much you
Speaker 1: loved Becca from that line, without you ever saying how
Speaker 1: in love you were with her or how you can
Speaker 1: never see yourself with another person like I knew every
Speaker 1: I knew how much Becca meant to you in that
Speaker 1: moment just by the way you said it, And I'll
Speaker 1: never forget that for the rest of my life. It
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite moments I've ever seen. I
Speaker 1: will say he to this day, now we've been together
Speaker 1: to two years later, he still calls me out every
Speaker 1: time I say a bag. He he really loved it.
Speaker 1: I love when we go on trips together and she's like,
Speaker 1: gotta pack the bag. That's hilarious. Like, now I know
Speaker 1: I asked someone to marry me. He though. The more
Speaker 1: that he's with me or around my friends and family
Speaker 1: back home, he starts to pick up the Minnesota and accent.
Speaker 1: I do it on purpose now you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: even know when you're doing it comes out, No, I do.
Speaker 1: What do you say in like a Minnesota accent? Oh no?
Speaker 1: Do you just like quote Fargo? That was Minnesota? Right, yeah, Dakota,
Speaker 1: but that, yeah, same accent. We watched Fargo together and
Speaker 1: he was like, this is how your aunt sounds, and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh no, We're going over to Sandy's later
Speaker 1: and going to have a lud. Well you guys are
Speaker 1: you guys are living in Soca right now? Right? So
Speaker 1: does do you see the accent kind of fade away
Speaker 1: now you're like far away from home? I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to tell. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: If I'm drinking, it's it's always it comes out so
Speaker 1: hard when I'm drinking. When I I don't have much
Speaker 1: of a Rhode Island Boston accent. I have a little bit,
Speaker 1: but when I start drinking or if I'm back home,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I turned into John Krasinski from
Speaker 1: that smot pop. Commercially, my Colorado accent really comes out
Speaker 1: when I'm drunk. For sure? What is the Colorado acts?
Speaker 1: There is? Anyways for the listeners out there becat you're
Speaker 1: on Bachelor Live on stage. You're doing the tour for
Speaker 1: that right now, go ahead and plug that real quick
Speaker 1: because you're making a bunch of stops over the next
Speaker 1: few months. It's crazy. So we've been practicing for a while.
Speaker 1: I mean, the show has been in the works for
Speaker 1: two years. It's been like this baby, and um, it's
Speaker 1: basically one local Bachelor in every city that we go to.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have sixty six different guys and then
Speaker 1: he is going to be dating ten local girls and
Speaker 1: so it's all on stage. We have group dates, ros ceremonies, hometowns,
Speaker 1: fantasy suites. We had our very first show last night
Speaker 1: and the audience was crazy in the best ways. Like
Speaker 1: Ben and I ocked out and we knew that it
Speaker 1: was going to be we were going to have an audience.
Speaker 1: That was the first time we've really practiced with an audience.
Speaker 1: But we stood there for a good two minutes while
Speaker 1: they just cheered and interrupted and standing ovations and Batchel Nation.
Speaker 1: I knew that we had fans. I mean, like you
Speaker 1: obviously get the d m s and you meet people
Speaker 1: that want the photos and autographs on that, but like
Speaker 1: I swear batter Nation fans are more extreme than sports fans.
Speaker 1: They're the craziest loyalist, most wonderful, insane people I've ever
Speaker 1: encountered in my entire life. Yeah. Well, and like every
Speaker 1: year you watch the show and you have the people
Speaker 1: that you love each season or that you don't like.
Speaker 1: And on stage, it's it's only a two hour show,
Speaker 1: so super quick, and on stage, the audience started to
Speaker 1: either love or hate some of the girls. So they're yelling,
Speaker 1: like pick Katie, you Dick. They're like yelling at the
Speaker 1: can I see Dick on this? Okay? But they're yelling
Speaker 1: at the Bachelor if he's making the wrong decision. He
Speaker 1: hears it and he feels and he's like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: but can I ask the audience? Can I Can I
Speaker 1: pick someone else? And so it's like you get all
Speaker 1: those awkward moments from the show just right in front
Speaker 1: of you. I love it. And so it's you and
Speaker 1: been co hosting it. Um And if you're interested in
Speaker 1: being an audience member, I'm sure you guys are sold
Speaker 1: out in tons of venues, but go to Bachelor Live
Speaker 1: on stage dot com to reserve a ticket. It sounds
Speaker 1: like it's the venue last night looked huge, like it
Speaker 1: looked like it was like the heavyweight boxing like Matt.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, we walked out and I was stunned.
Speaker 1: But the show tomorrow and some of the shows are
Speaker 1: like double the size, which I'm I don't know how
Speaker 1: it's possible. But I do have one question about Bachelor Alive,
Speaker 1: just because it's across my mind. Uh and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys been asked this before. But why I guess
Speaker 1: because it's Bachelor Alive and not Bachelorette Alive. But was
Speaker 1: there any reason as to why I wasn't half half
Speaker 1: Bachelor and half Bachelorettes. I think for this go around,
Speaker 1: they want to start. The first season of the show
Speaker 1: was solely The Bachelor, and so obviously we we have
Speaker 1: to see how it goes and if the audience likes it,
Speaker 1: and then from there they definitely want to add Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I I mean, I would personally love to see same
Speaker 1: sex on the stage, um Seymour variety. So I think
Speaker 1: if this run goes well, we're definitely going to fingers
Speaker 1: Cross be adding. So shout out to you Bachelor Nation
Speaker 1: for being so loyal. Really thank you for that, because
Speaker 1: you guys are really wonderful in that aspect. And then secondly,
Speaker 1: if you guys want to see a Bachelorette live on
Speaker 1: stage with Becca and Ben to do this all over again,
Speaker 1: go see Bachelor Live right now, because if it does
Speaker 1: well to have a Bachelorette, and better than that, if
Speaker 1: that goes well, I better see a Bachelor in Paradise
Speaker 1: on stage because I can only imagine the chaos and
Speaker 1: madness that would ensue. Well, Jared, we we do throw
Speaker 1: a little bit to paradise, so you just have to
Speaker 1: come and watch it. Oh, we'll be there, very exciting.
Speaker 1: We'll actually be there tonight and be there tomorrow depending
Speaker 1: on when this comes out to that comes out Saturday,
Speaker 1: so you'll be there tonight. Anyways, Thank you guys so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Have fun on your date tonight,
Speaker 1: and thank you luck tonight on Bachelor Live on Stage.
Speaker 1: I guess I can't stay tonight for two different nights anyways,
Speaker 1: And back on the podcast because I have a lot
Speaker 1: of questions. Yeah, we kind of have to expedite it.
Speaker 1: Sorry for it, but thank you so much and for
Speaker 1: the listeners. Stick around because we have two mystery guests
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Speaker 1: are back joined in studio by one of my favorite
Speaker 1: people in the entire world. We're not going to say
Speaker 1: his name. The thing is, we wanted the listeners to
Speaker 1: guess who we have on as a guest. They're gonna
Speaker 1: know immediately, but I still want to play the game
Speaker 1: immediately immediately. They know your voice, Bro, they know you
Speaker 1: you know well, they know you're a man now. So, sir,
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. We appreciate you being here on
Speaker 1: our special Valentine's Day episode. Can you give a clue
Speaker 1: as to who you are? Yeah? I love both of
Speaker 1: these men with all my heart, and they know that
Speaker 1: we've been friends Jared and I now for four or
Speaker 1: five years and Dean and I now for three years,
Speaker 1: three best years of my life. So for the listeners
Speaker 1: out there, because this is our Valentine's podcast, can you
Speaker 1: please tell you do have a partner. I do have
Speaker 1: a partner. That's another hint for the listeners out there
Speaker 1: that might not know who this is. What are you
Speaker 1: and your significant other doing on this uh wonderful day
Speaker 1: of celebration of love. We're hanging out with you, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we appreciate that. Sweet. I'm sorry. You have to know.
Speaker 1: It's great. Actually, last year, we're not on Valentine's Day together.
Speaker 1: This year we're going to be here, uh in Squaw Valley,
Speaker 1: hanging out with the two of you, celebrating, eating good food,
Speaker 1: having good laughs, and just enjoying the company of people.
Speaker 1: That's as good as it gets. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't think people. Some people out there might not still
Speaker 1: know who it is. Yeah, you're dating someone, that's another clue.
Speaker 1: I'm dating somebody. Is this your first Valentine's Day together? Yes?
Speaker 1: In person? We were together last Valentine's Day dating, but
Speaker 1: we had not been able to get in together in
Speaker 1: person last Valentine's Day, so we spent apart. But did
Speaker 1: you celebrate Valentine's Dawn? It just a different day. We
Speaker 1: always celebrate Valentine's Day. Every day is a Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: for me right now with her. I saw your Instagram
Speaker 1: caption is very sweet. It's true. It is fun, like
Speaker 1: it's been a good Uh we've been together now for
Speaker 1: a year. It's been a amazing year. Where it does
Speaker 1: it just feels like the pressure of performing for these
Speaker 1: special days is there because you want to show them
Speaker 1: you care, but also you kind of want to do
Speaker 1: that every day. So it's like this day is unique,
Speaker 1: but it's almost hard to top every other day because
Speaker 1: every day it feels really good. Right now? Can I
Speaker 1: read your caption online? Because it's the most you thing
Speaker 1: I could possibly read. I'm not saying his name. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's says every day is Valentine's with you, and then
Speaker 1: it adds your girlfriend's name and says, gosh, dang it,
Speaker 1: I am a lucky man. That's so cute. That's great,
Speaker 1: that's great. I love that you guys celebrate each other
Speaker 1: every single day. Jared and I are both are kind
Speaker 1: of on the same bus of we don't actually love
Speaker 1: the idea of Valentine's Day because every day should be
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. We want to abolish it. Um, yeah, same,
Speaker 1: It's just too much because now it's becoming a holiday
Speaker 1: that is more about the sadness of single people than
Speaker 1: it is celebrating relationships. Yeah, well, I think it puts
Speaker 1: people in the two camps, and I don't love holidays
Speaker 1: or any type of celebration that puts people in the
Speaker 1: two camps, the singles and the people in relationship. Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day is a special day, but I think every day
Speaker 1: can be a day that you express your gratitude and
Speaker 1: care and love for your partner who was committed to
Speaker 1: sharing their life with you through your annoyances. But today
Speaker 1: just feels like one of those days that it's isolating
Speaker 1: for many and that's not fun, Like we can't How
Speaker 1: am I supposed to celebrate when I know there's somebody
Speaker 1: tonight sitting on their couch alone, going if I only
Speaker 1: had somebody by me. Well, sir, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: as someone that's obviously spent many Valentine's Day as a
Speaker 1: single person, what advice would you have for the single
Speaker 1: people of today? Yeah, I I know what I would
Speaker 1: tell him, And I think I have to actually say
Speaker 1: this is an advice, advice I'm going to share. But
Speaker 1: Tanya from the I Heart Family actually shared this with
Speaker 1: me very recently. Never stop trying. That's my advice for
Speaker 1: anybody's single out there. So if you're sitting on your
Speaker 1: couch right now, or if you're alone, if you desire
Speaker 1: a partnership. If you don't, then that's a whole new story.
Speaker 1: But if you desire to bring somebody into your life
Speaker 1: and you just haven't found him, or it hasn't worked
Speaker 1: out yet, or you're still searching, no matter what you've done,
Speaker 1: no matter how really like hurt me you've may have been,
Speaker 1: or how many great dates you've been on, never stop trying.
Speaker 1: Always continue because as those stories, those first off those
Speaker 1: disappointments are turning in the stories, and you're gonna learn
Speaker 1: more and more about you who you are through it.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. That is beautiful. Can comment. So you guys
Speaker 1: all hate Valentine's Day, you wish it was abolished. But
Speaker 1: why is Valentine's Day being categorized as relationships? Isn't it
Speaker 1: just a holiday about love? So love can be from
Speaker 1: your father, your brother, your friends, your family. It can
Speaker 1: look so differently, so why should it be relationship quote
Speaker 1: unquote shamed versus being This is epic, This is a
Speaker 1: day years But that's why I don't like it, because
Speaker 1: I feel like it's solely based on romantic relationships and
Speaker 1: not other love that you experienced. Where other holidays, like
Speaker 1: we said, like whether you know whatever you celebrate during December, Christmas, Hanka,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and Thanksgiving, I feel like
Speaker 1: those are more like family and friend oriented holidays, where
Speaker 1: it's just celebrating the people that you love most and
Speaker 1: are lucky to be surrounded by. Where I feel like
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day is only about boyfriend, girlfriend dating, boyfriend, boyfriend
Speaker 1: girlfriend girlfriend marriage, whatever. You know, It's only about that
Speaker 1: type of relationship and love. Maybe I'm wrong. I see
Speaker 1: it different. Well no, that's good. I see it very differently.
Speaker 1: Need the different perspective, spoken like a true single woman.
Speaker 1: So you are single. That's all I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: Not to trust the night good? Sorry are you kidding?
Speaker 1: I don't care? No, I that was so funny. No,
Speaker 1: but I genuinely like I always get a Valentine card
Speaker 1: from my dad, you know what I mean. I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: You know, people have different relationships with their parents than mine. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but it's still just like your friends. Galentine's Days about
Speaker 1: your girls showing up, being like where your community, we
Speaker 1: love you. So I just feel like, why are we
Speaker 1: shaming that, Like, well, celebrate it. Everyone love you to
Speaker 1: make you feel better when you're I get you a
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day card? Or did you make you feel more
Speaker 1: sad because you're like, my dad's the only one getting
Speaker 1: me a Valentine's Day Make you sad? It makes a
Speaker 1: lot of people sad out there. Rock solid dude in
Speaker 1: my life shows that he cares about me. But I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people out there might get
Speaker 1: sad about that because then they're like, I only get
Speaker 1: a Valentine's Day card for that day. Valentine's Day fault
Speaker 1: faults your father Valentine's Day gifts, But I text him
Speaker 1: I love him. Hear guys, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: intrigues you at all. But Valentine's Day, also called St.
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day or the Feast of St. Valentine, is celebrated annually.
Speaker 1: It is originated as a Western Christian feast day honoring
Speaker 1: one or two early Christian martyrs named St. Valentine, and
Speaker 1: is recognized as a significant cultural, religious, and commercial celebration
Speaker 1: of romance and love in many regions of the world today.
Speaker 1: So now we can understand a little bit more about
Speaker 1: the origins of valent text of it. But how does
Speaker 1: that help us? I think it now, Well, because the
Speaker 1: foundation of this was a celebration of romance and love,
Speaker 1: it sounds like in all forms. Well, the only reason
Speaker 1: I'm starting to not like it is because now there's
Speaker 1: this whole thing about well, if there's Valentine's Day, there
Speaker 1: should be single awareness Day. And it just makes me
Speaker 1: think maybe we're just overthinking everything at this point. There's
Speaker 1: also people making a lot of money on this day. Well,
Speaker 1: of course, it's a candy card holiday, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I spent a lot of money. Flowers. Flowers.
Speaker 1: They're gonna die in six days if we're lucky. So
Speaker 1: when you when you get out of Tahoe Squaw Valley,
Speaker 1: we're obviously lucky. I have to be up here for
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. You guys don't have any specific plans of
Speaker 1: being like, this is our Valentine's Day date? Uh No,
Speaker 1: we don't. Probably on me, I should probably should have
Speaker 1: done that. But we have had a really great here's
Speaker 1: a cool part about our relationship. Over the last year.
Speaker 1: We've had an insane ride, We've done some incredible stuff,
Speaker 1: and I do feel like we've participated in things together,
Speaker 1: will tell stories about for years to come. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's gonna be a day that comes along where
Speaker 1: I'm sitting across the table from this girl and I say, man,
Speaker 1: I'm a lucky guy, and that's Valentine's Day enough for me.
Speaker 1: Can you make us all lucky guys? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like you both are. Would it be okay
Speaker 1: if we got to speak with this Lucky girl podcast? Yeah? Yeah, lady,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Man who shall not be named,
Speaker 1: all right, and for the listeners out there, we're doing
Speaker 1: the ceremonial transfer of the microphone to that gentleman's better half,
Speaker 1: if you will. Uh again, we're not gonna say the names. Nope,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna say them. So welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to help us like a dating. Its very awkward,
Speaker 1: not I feel like a jerk saying be like, hey, welcome,
Speaker 1: what's up? Bro? It's okay, how are you on this
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? I'm great, happy to be here. So I'm
Speaker 1: really really happy you're here. Because obviously Jared and I
Speaker 1: know Ben pretty well for the most part spoiler, but
Speaker 1: we've never really all right, let's just get it away.
Speaker 1: The chicken is up. I said his name a while.
Speaker 1: It was Ben Higgins Ladies, a gentleman, which you knew
Speaker 1: from the moment you heard his voice, and his wonderful
Speaker 1: girlfriend jess Clark. I can't believe I blew that. I know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't one that was like, do you like jess
Speaker 1: or Jessica better either one. No one calls me Jessica anymore,
Speaker 1: I think because of my Instagram is just jess so
Speaker 1: it calls me Jessica. Sometimes he was angry. You love
Speaker 1: that name, Jessica. Just in general I call him Benjamin.
Speaker 1: So what's your middle take it formal Elise? Because the
Speaker 1: only didn't ask when my when my mom used to
Speaker 1: be mad at me, she she would call me Jared Matthew.
Speaker 1: That's how in your she was mad at me, should
Speaker 1: call your middle name? So jess Jesse, Elise, Jessica, elease?
Speaker 1: Did you ever get called just like Ben call you
Speaker 1: that when he's mad? Is my middle name? Okay, jess Jessica,
Speaker 1: how can you possibly ever be? That's the thing. He's
Speaker 1: never angry at me, so I would never know. Right,
Speaker 1: We went from not saying anyone's names to saying, everyone
Speaker 1: your cards out at the table at this point. Anyways, Jess,
Speaker 1: have you to have you here for our Valentine's Day episode? Um,
Speaker 1: obviously we got to speak with Ben a little bit
Speaker 1: about you guys plans. It sounds like you're just celebrating
Speaker 1: each other every single day. But what what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts are? Like, what's your take on Valentine's Day? Just
Speaker 1: in general? Before before you and be and had the
Speaker 1: chance to celebrate these past two together, what was your
Speaker 1: take on it? Um? I mean I always just spent
Speaker 1: it with my girlfriends or Yeah, my dad always got
Speaker 1: me something like a stuffed animal, So even when I
Speaker 1: was like twenty two, he's still got me giant Teddy bears.
Speaker 1: My dad does the same thing. Like when you send
Speaker 1: the message about the card and flowers, my dad gets
Speaker 1: flowers for my sister. So you're big big Galantines, then
Speaker 1: big Galantine's gal Did you do Galantine's this year? No?
Speaker 1: I would have been Okay, got you what's still kind
Speaker 1: of Galantine? Galantine? Yeah? Well we did. Like what can
Speaker 1: you tell our listeners out there, because we do have
Speaker 1: a lot of women who are listeners of this part.
Speaker 1: I think at least if we have any listeners at all,
Speaker 1: most of them any out there, can you tell them
Speaker 1: what you think a good a good Galantine's Day. It's like,
Speaker 1: what do you do to celebrate your Galantine? Specifically, my
Speaker 1: best one is me and my best friend into a
Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant and got margarita's and like split tacos and
Speaker 1: notches and went to a movie afterwards. But we it
Speaker 1: was when I was in college, and so the Mexican
Speaker 1: restaurant was the only one in the town, and everyone
Speaker 1: else there was on a date. So all of the
Speaker 1: like waiters and any old man that was in there
Speaker 1: felt so bad for us. So we ended up with
Speaker 1: like vases of flowers on our table and just got
Speaker 1: drunk on margarities. And yeah, um it was one of
Speaker 1: the fifty shades of gray ones. They love to come
Speaker 1: out with those on Valentine's Day. It sounds like the
Speaker 1: simple sometimes the simplest ones are always the best ones, right,
Speaker 1: Like you probably never would have thought that going to
Speaker 1: a Mexican restaurant with your best friend was going to
Speaker 1: turn into like a fantastic memory that you can have
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. Exactly. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about how long have you been been dating? Now, Um,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about this. We started dating December, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's a year and a couple of months. Year
Speaker 1: and a couple of months. But you're but their origin
Speaker 1: story is not very untraditional in the sense that you
Speaker 1: guys didn't really see each other much for the beginning
Speaker 1: stages of the relationships. So we started talking in November,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as the first time we saw
Speaker 1: each other, we decided to be boyfriend. But then even
Speaker 1: after that, you guys still had to do like long
Speaker 1: distance because he's got a busy schedule and obviously the
Speaker 1: last Valentine's Day we were still like a secret in
Speaker 1: air quotes. Yeah, we had told me when that we
Speaker 1: were dating. When did you guys quote come out? We're
Speaker 1: looking on our instagrams. It was what late February of
Speaker 1: last year, so we're coming up on the one year
Speaker 1: coming out anniversary. Were you nervous for that, yeah, to
Speaker 1: announce that you were in a relationship with Ben Higgins? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I underestimated it, so I didn't get nervous until
Speaker 1: like my phone started to get hot that night, because
Speaker 1: it's like crazy. Yeah. Well, it's because the thing about Ben,
Speaker 1: he was obviously the bachelor, so he's known for relationships,
Speaker 1: and I think, well, I don't think everybody loves Ben
Speaker 1: so much that I think that everybody was rooting for him,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden one day he was
Speaker 1: like you were that that person that everybody was like, yes,
Speaker 1: Ben found his persons, you know, And so was that
Speaker 1: overwhelming for you all of a sudden? I mean not
Speaker 1: to like give an example Instagram followers, right, like how
Speaker 1: many followers did you gain just from that? I think
Speaker 1: I got like six thousand a night or something like that.
Speaker 1: Is that overwhelming? Because your floone must have been blowing up.
Speaker 1: Everybody miss him talking to you, especially keeping a secret.
Speaker 1: It was wild. It was that day was definitely overwhelming,
Speaker 1: and I had just gotten back from Honduras and with him,
Speaker 1: and so it was like two days into that I
Speaker 1: was on a business trip. It was a really like
Speaker 1: overwhelming day in general. But um, luckily he kind of
Speaker 1: helps like guide me along a lot, and I have
Speaker 1: a lot of people that hold me accountable and that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So it was overwhelming, But now it's
Speaker 1: just kind of fun and funny. And did you guys
Speaker 1: plan that because you did the Humanity and Hope trip
Speaker 1: right to Honduras, which for the listeners out there, if
Speaker 1: you haven't heard of Humanity to Helpe you sure check
Speaker 1: that out. Was a fantastic organization. They bring you to Honduras.
Speaker 1: You get to see locally sourced coffee beans. You gotta
Speaker 1: visit some communities and help them scale. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't really want to miss miss uh define a new
Speaker 1: development of communities with Honduras. Um what is the what
Speaker 1: was the planning process of going like posting your first
Speaker 1: picture together, because that's three months of essentially being boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Was there were you guys like today we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: We're like we're gonna do it. In a week, We're
Speaker 1: gonna do it on this day specifically? Was it just
Speaker 1: like you know what, we're just gonna do it. What
Speaker 1: was the process because didn't you talk to someone about it?
Speaker 1: It was strategic, very very strategic. UM it has Yeah.
Speaker 1: We one was I wanted to be out of the
Speaker 1: country because I didn't want to take calls about it too.
Speaker 1: I thought, well, this is an organization, you know, we
Speaker 1: we both had believed in and we cared about and
Speaker 1: so why not get a picture taken down there to
Speaker 1: promote this organization that's helping lives. If this is gonna
Speaker 1: be the picture that everybody uses, And then too like
Speaker 1: they're like as soon and you get it, I think,
Speaker 1: just can I be understanding a little bit? And maybe
Speaker 1: you should even know at the time. But for us,
Speaker 1: you know, we're dating in private and it was great
Speaker 1: and we're having a great time and it was fun
Speaker 1: and we're dating and enjoying that side. But there is
Speaker 1: this pressure that comes to announcing a public relationship because
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're tied, and so like,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure this was the real deal,
Speaker 1: like this thing was happening, we were good, because if
Speaker 1: you announced a relationship after a month and a half
Speaker 1: and then you break up in a month, like that hurts.
Speaker 1: So for us, I want to you know, I think
Speaker 1: we're both like, let's just make sure that we're steady,
Speaker 1: Like this is what we're feeling and thinking right now.
Speaker 1: Isn't just like a new cool, like lustful thing. So
Speaker 1: three months is actually a great I think great timing.
Speaker 1: It was we we had our own time privately and
Speaker 1: then announced it and it's been a blast. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you're two Valentines into a lifetime full of Valentines days,
Speaker 1: lifetime a lot of Valentines. So you guys, so I
Speaker 1: know you're doing the Bachelor alive right now. So you're
Speaker 1: on the tour bus, jess are you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: the bus. I'm gonna be popping in and out and out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited though. It's a nice bus. Everyone says you
Speaker 1: sleep really good on those buses. She'll be coming in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I think every three weeks, I could see Jessica
Speaker 1: coming onto the bus. So that's kind of the plan
Speaker 1: right now. Um, the country. I've got a question. Let's
Speaker 1: I get it. You guys love each other. She's your
Speaker 1: best friend, he's your best friend. When do I fit
Speaker 1: into this? When do I get to meet up at
Speaker 1: the tour bus and go for you? Yeah? We actually
Speaker 1: have negotiated into the contract a open bunk for friends
Speaker 1: to come stay on the bus. That it was specifically
Speaker 1: for me. I was a lot more flattered for a minute.
Speaker 1: But you you're a friend, yeah, I mean that is
Speaker 1: kind of you, like and its friends in parentheses all friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so please come stay on the bus. Den, I would
Speaker 1: love to be with you any time. Um, it would
Speaker 1: be fantastic if I could spend any waking moment with
Speaker 1: you traveling on the road, because quite frankly, he's a
Speaker 1: professional at it. Did you have any times that you
Speaker 1: might pop into Patrol Alive? Do you have anything set
Speaker 1: up right now? I don't have anything planned. I told
Speaker 1: Ben uh with no response received, that I would love
Speaker 1: to go to like a small town on the tour
Speaker 1: that you guys are going to and experience that with you,
Speaker 1: just like you sit backstage, you get to watch Ben
Speaker 1: Rebecca do their thing and just kind of you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Taho would be a good spot. Reno be
Speaker 1: good spot, is a great spot. It would make I
Speaker 1: wanted to be like Twin Falls, Idaho. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's take the You take the van, I'll meet you
Speaker 1: there on the bus. We'll spend some time backstage. Dean,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this right now, Jared, I would say
Speaker 1: the same thing for you, but Dean is the one
Speaker 1: here that I'm speaking to. If you walked out on
Speaker 1: that stage one of these shows, the place would blow.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I just want to watch you and Becca host a
Speaker 1: beautiful show. The last thing I would want us to
Speaker 1: walk out on stage. Um, I have one more question
Speaker 1: before we part ways with you guys, and and uh
Speaker 1: feel free to just deflect if need be. But given
Speaker 1: the given the fact that it is Valentine's Day, the
Speaker 1: Day of love, Uh, do we see any type of
Speaker 1: proposal potentially in the future between you two. What's what's
Speaker 1: on the horizon for Ben and jess Um? Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that Jessica and I life is
Speaker 1: very aligned. I'm excited about the future. What's next for us?
Speaker 1: Jessica just started a company in Denver called sad For
Speaker 1: is a wellness platform where you pay a small membership
Speaker 1: fee and get discounts. So why did you get into that? Um?
Speaker 1: Because Ben loves in Denver, So I thought you were
Speaker 1: still in Nashville. I am so I own it in
Speaker 1: Nashville also, but I'm planning on making the move to
Speaker 1: Denver once the question gets popped. Yeah, okay, okay, So
Speaker 1: the plan is hopefully, you know, at some point, maybe
Speaker 1: things progress, maybe on the one year anniversary of your
Speaker 1: guys coming out. Let's not put expectations on anything. Dean
Speaker 1: and then you would move to Denver. Yes, So that's
Speaker 1: a tentative plan for any I want to ask before you,
Speaker 1: guys go, advice for a long distance relationship, But I
Speaker 1: guess from an outsider, that's the biggest advice I could
Speaker 1: give would be if you're doing a long distance have
Speaker 1: a plan and don't just expect, oh, things will just
Speaker 1: line up the way they do, because I feel like
Speaker 1: then they always fall apart. So you guys have done
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship, what would be your biggest piece
Speaker 1: of advice for anybody dealing with that right now? UM
Speaker 1: communicate with like where you're at and how you're feeling
Speaker 1: at all times. Like Ben always says, if there's anything
Speaker 1: bothering you at any point, you just have to tell me.
Speaker 1: Like I can't because I would bottle things up and
Speaker 1: then I would explode about little things and it would
Speaker 1: lead back to something bigger that happened a long time ago.
Speaker 1: So immediate communication and then like just making sure you're
Speaker 1: on the same page because especially as a girl, you
Speaker 1: can like get ahead of yourself sometimes I think girls
Speaker 1: are really bad about that. So making sure that like
Speaker 1: you're on the same page about everything at all times,
Speaker 1: otherwise someone will end up like disappointed or something at
Speaker 1: some point. Yeah. I think it's great. Also for anny
Speaker 1: couple out there, never leave your partner without having a
Speaker 1: plan on one to see them. Yeah, that's huge. That's
Speaker 1: a huge one. I think that's fantastic advice for our
Speaker 1: listeners out there. Um, and for the listeners out there,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to this week's episode
Speaker 1: of Help I Suck a Dating the special Valentine's Day addition,
Speaker 1: big thank you too are to MRR guests. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've guess who they are by now, but
Speaker 1: we only said their names like seven times. Um. Big
Speaker 1: thank you to our callers in as well. Be sure
Speaker 1: to check out their websites, check out their dating apps, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Have it right here. It's a big thank you to
Speaker 1: Susan trom Betty, a big thank you to Jamie Bronstein,
Speaker 1: a big thank you to Carina Carston uh and those
Speaker 1: are our callers, and a big thank you to Ben
Speaker 1: and Jesse. Of course, mry guest. To the two people
Speaker 1: walking out of the room right now, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining the podcast. Anyways, If you have any
Speaker 1: guests on who those two guests were because we're again
Speaker 1: we're not divulging who they were. UM, be sure to
Speaker 1: email us I suck a Dating at i Hear media
Speaker 1: dot com. Be sure to email some questions. Next week,
Speaker 1: we're are going to do basically an email centric podcast
Speaker 1: where we answer listener questions via email, so be sure
Speaker 1: to check that out and be sure to next week
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