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Speaker 2: It's much easier to win games, as we saw in

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Speaker 1: This is such a unique situation too, here Ian, because

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Speaker 4: and then he threw one right out of the gate

435
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Speaker 4: in this game. He had a fumble. Of course, Mark

436
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 4: Andrews had just had a dreadful evening. It was the

437
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 4: unforced errors. They had a lot of penalties. When you

438
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 4: look at the statu sheet, the Ravens dominated this game

439
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways, in yardage, in things that

440
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 4: you would think would lead to victory, but again, so

441
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 4: many unforced errors undermined them. The turnovers, the penalties, they

442
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Speaker 4: just it felt like a lot of times they just

443
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Speaker 4: couldn't get out of their own way. And they were

444
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: still so very close at the end to maybe forcing

445
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 4: this to overtime. That tells you how dominant they were

446
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 4: in some areas of the game, and again they just

447
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 4: kept shooting themselves in the.

448
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 1: Foot breaking news today in Chicago where the Bears have

449
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: landed their new head coach at his Lions offensive coordinator

450
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, who after negotiations heated up this morning, agreed

451
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Speaker 1: the terms on a new deal. He is the new

452
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: man at Hallis Hall. That leaves us with just five

453
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Speaker 1: head coaching vacancies still open, including two with a couple

454
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Speaker 1: of teams in the Raiders and the Jaguars that had

455
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Speaker 1: interviewed Ben Johnson through the course of the process. Here

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Speaker 1: this is the first week. Today, it was the first

457
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Speaker 1: day in which coach is currently under contract with other teams.

458
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: Could interview in person the Saints, the Jets, among others,

459
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Speaker 1: with interview scheduled starting on Tuesday, Rams and Eagles. They

460
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Speaker 1: still got football games to play. Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts.

461
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the third quarter right now. Hurts stepping

462
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: up in the pocket trying to escape, but he gets

463
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Speaker 1: sacked here by Jalen McCullen. Take a closer look at

464
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Speaker 1: Hurt's knee gets twisted up on the left side. He

465
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: immediately grabs for when to the medical ten was on

466
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Speaker 1: the sideline for about five minutes, but was able to

467
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Speaker 1: return to the game. Fourth quarter. Now he goes up

468
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: twenty two to fifteen. Saint Kwon Barkley looking to ice

469
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Speaker 1: the game. And this is an ice in it. This

470
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Speaker 1: is the whole igloo. He is gone, Saquon Barkley to

471
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: the house. Eagles push the lead to twenty eight point

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Speaker 1: fifteen after a Jake Elliott missed extra point and they've

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Speaker 1: got a little ngie down the stretch. Rams cut to

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Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty two. They get back the ball late.

475
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: Stafford looking for an open receiver, but there's Jalen Carter,

476
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Speaker 1: an absolute monster all day, one of five sacks on Stafford.

477
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Speaker 1: Last chance now for the Rams. Stafford forced to throw

478
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Speaker 1: it a little bit sooner than he wanted, trying to

479
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: get at the puka nakua. That thing's uncatchable. It's out

480
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: of bounds. Rams go home. The Eagles in a winter

481
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: Wonderland get the win in a home NFC Championship matchup

482
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Speaker 1: against the Washington Commanders. Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pellicero,

483
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo. Mike, you saw Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: there face off a huge game. You had video of

485
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: him pregame talking with a member of the Rams who

486
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: was circling the field, and he's certainly backed up the talk. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that was Jared Versu who had talked about the

488
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Eagles fans who give them credit, walked and did a

489
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Speaker 3: lap pregame, waved to the Eagles fans was blowing them

490
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: kisses with getting booed. Jalen Carter stopped them and I

491
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: asked Carter after the game what he said to him.

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00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: He said, I just told him, you know, that's extra

493
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: motivation for us. But I still love him. I still

494
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: love his game. Two young defensive players are going to

495
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: be here for quite some time, and two really good

496
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: defensive players that you should probably block. I don't understand

497
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: what happened with the RAMS protection on the last two plays,

498
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 3: just completely abandoned the idea of blocking Jalen Carter. I

499
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: think we're probably gonna see at least one, if not two,

500
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Speaker 3: of them. Like, now, that's not the play. There was

501
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: a play. Obviously there's no snow on the ground. This

502
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: could be late in the game. But Jalen Carter just

503
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: an absolute forest there it is where they just completely

504
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 3: just abandoned them. And listen. I saw a couple of

505
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: posts on X last night. How did this guy drop

506
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: to the Eagles? You forgot there was a big reason

507
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: why he dropped the Eagles. But the Eagles, they can

508
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: get this guy to come in here and be a

509
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: good player and be a good part of the locker room.

510
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: He's been just that. Yeah, lock up.

511
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: You say they should block Jaylen Carter, good tip, Mike,

512
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: that's definitely something that they should do. Let me write

513
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: that down and tell every offensive linement. I have a

514
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: better idea. If you block Jalen Carter, why don't you

515
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: block Jayln Carter? Anyway, let me get the fact they

516
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: here's my point. Let's talk about Jalen Hurts and his knee,

517
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: because I really do think that's significant. Obviously, he is

518
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: going to play on Sunday. I don't have any doubt

519
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: about that. It didn't seem like there's really much structural there.

520
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: Seems to be in pain, but seems his knee came

521
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Speaker 2: out okay. But my question really is is he going

522
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: to be as mobile as he needs? Because the Jalen

523
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: Hurts who kind of stands in the pockets and reads

524
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: is very good, but not the potential MVP candidate. When

525
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: he can use his legs and create and scramble to throw,

526
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: that's a Jalen Hurts that's a little different. How mobile

527
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: can he be on Sunday will go a long way,

528
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: and determining whether or not the Eagles play on.

529
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: Like there was some back and forth going into week eighteen.

530
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: Do you play Saquon with a chance for the single

531
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Speaker 1: season Russian record? Do you rest them for the playoffs?

532
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right the wrong decision was,

533
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: but he looked trusted. He looked very very rusted, and fett.

534
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe as much as I heard about

535
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: the Rams talking about we gotta get hats on him,

536
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: we can't let him run free. I said, all right,

537
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: they're going to contain him, right, They're not gonna let it.

538
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: And then he does it once and I turned to

539
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: my producer and I said, well, outside of that sixty

540
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 3: yard touchdown that he had doing a pretty good job,

541
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 3: twelve carries for like thirty two and boom, there he

542
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: goes again. I'm like, I just had it. If it

543
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: happened once, all right, it's gonna happen. But like, he

544
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: can't have that happen to It just shows not only

545
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: how good he is, how good the line is, but

546
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Speaker 3: how in tune they are. And you heard him say

547
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: that he was calling for that play call that they

548
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: made at the end of the game, because he is

549
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: just unbelievable all game long at seeing what is happening

550
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 3: in front of him and understanding what it's gonna take

551
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: to pop one and then for it to continue to

552
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: have and then to smack himself in the head while

553
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: he's running. He talked after the game about how he

554
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: has to learn to bring that emotion down when he's

555
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: making a big play. It's all right, Saquon didn't have

556
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: to go into the medical tent. No concussion check.

557
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: You're good. What did he say to Jalen Hurts? Watch

558
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: this right before that run? Anyway, the TikTok.

559
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: Now that it's back, well we'll have something back to

560
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: make some sense of that for us. Anyway, graduation. You

561
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: know what else stood out to me?

562
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: Though?

563
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: The Rams are going to be back, and I'm not

564
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: saying they're going anywhere, but that is a young, feisty defense.

565
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: We have some questions about whether or not Matthew Stafford

566
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: will be back, certainly left his potential future open after

567
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: the game. Segi is going to take some time and

568
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: think about it. But this Rams team has remade itself

569
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: on the fly, I mean less need picking all Pro

570
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: and Pro Bowl players from like the third and fourth

571
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: round continues to be ridiculous.

572
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: This defense is feisty.

573
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: The pass rush is gonna end up being among the

574
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: best in the NFL next year as it was late

575
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: this season. We are going to be seeing a lot

576
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: of the Rams coming soon and I am feels to

577
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: me like these.

578
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 9: Guys will absolutely be back next year.

579
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: A lot of breaking news today, but Ian did just

580
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: break that news to me. TikTok is back, and now

581
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: I can watch whatever Colling Wolf is doing the background

582
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: of this video. All right, Coming up next, Patrick Mahomes

583
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: is in a seventh consecutive AFC Championship game in seven

584
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: seasons as a starter, but he's gotta get past that guy,

585
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The legend continues, The rivalry continues. Will break

586
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: it down next on the Insiders.

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00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 10: First of all, congratulations, great job tonight.

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Not only are we going on to play in THEFC

589
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: Championship Game, but this young man right right here burns

590
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: his three hundredth career week.

591
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 9: All time.

592
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Have done that. What a great job.

593
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Break it up.

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00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, great too today.

595
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 10: Like you said, we'll just stay over the bay, come

596
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 10: back rady go next week.

597
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: I'm so damn proud of you, guys. Man resilient talk.

598
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 5: That is buffalo to a core.

599
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Baby.

600
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: You embody this damn city in these fans, right. I

601
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 5: know we got to Hecker a lot to work on.

602
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 5: Take care of yourself tonight, be humble. You've got a

603
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: big one coming up Sunday.

604
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 10: Right Hey, text everybody, right, text everybody. I'm so proud

605
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 10: of you guys. I'm so proud of everybody.

606
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: In this room.

607
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 10: You are here for a reason. Don't forget that. It

608
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 10: takes every single one of us. We're not done yet.

609
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Let's go we.

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: You know, after the Chiefs lost to the Bills back

611
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: in November, Patrick Mahomes was caught on a microphone saying

612
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: to saying into Josh Allen's ear, we'll do it again, baby.

613
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: So they spoke this into existence Bills versus Chiefs in

614
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game next Sunday, and we are all

615
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: going going to bear witness to it. And here is

616
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: Sarah Walsh and Cam Wolf to talk about it. Sarah,

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00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: you know, when I was watching the Chiefs game the

618
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: other night, I thought, like, it feels like forever since

619
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: we've actually seen the Chiefs as a whole on the field.

620
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: It really was almost forever. How were they feeling after

621
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: they finally were all back together playing a normal game again.

622
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Speaker 7: Yeah, to put some context to what you were saying there.

623
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Speaker 7: When you're saying it feels like forever, the reality is

624
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 7: that they really hadn't played a meaningful game since Christmas Day.

625
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 7: There were a lot of guys that were either resting,

626
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 7: sitting out. They sat their starters in Week eighteen so

627
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 7: it had been a while and because of all that,

628
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 7: there was so much made of this narrative of rust

629
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Speaker 7: versus rest. Were they going to look rusty? And I

630
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 7: can tell you being in that locker room afterwards, there

631
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 7: was a palpable sense of relief that this team is back,

632
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 7: this team is healthy, and this team is automatic when

633
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 7: it comes to postseason and elevating their play now. We

634
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 7: talked to several guys that had been out, and Travis Kelcey,

635
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 7: one of them, talked about well, first of all, he

636
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 7: said the swifties wild when he said he feels twenty

637
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 7: two again, But some of that is obviously because he

638
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 7: had been rested. He said, anytime he gets a chance

639
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 7: to work on his body late in the season, he's

640
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 7: going to take that opportunity. He said, he felt great.

641
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 7: He obviously showed it was the best game that he's

642
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 7: had all season long. Of course, there was Chris Jones,

643
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 7: who we hadn't seen in more than three weeks. He

644
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 7: missed the last two regular season games with a calf injury.

645
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 7: He comes back and then that defensive line that he

646
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 7: is on just absolutely went ballistic. They had eight sacks,

647
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 7: they had fourteen. Quarterback hits. They did everything they needed

648
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: to do. George carloftis who had three sacks in that

649
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 7: one that was a career high for him. He said

650
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 7: they talked about rushing under an umbrella of discipline and

651
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Speaker 7: they certainly did that. In one note from today, Andy

652
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Speaker 7: Reid addressed the media a video a via conference and

653
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Speaker 7: he talked about Nicole Hartman. That's another guy ever keep

654
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: an eye and could he return this week. They're going

655
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Speaker 7: to have to make a decision. He said he hasn't

656
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Speaker 7: made a decision yet, but that he's worked really hard

657
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Speaker 7: to work his way back.

658
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Speaker 3: From a knee injury.

659
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Speaker 7: So that's something that everyone will be watching this week.

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Speaker 4: Judy cam we were in Buffalo and we watched the

661
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: for some really uncharacteristic turnovers from the Ravens. It would

662
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: certainly help if they could do that against the Chiefs

663
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Speaker 4: next week.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Judy, some of the biggest smiles in the Bills

665
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 9: locker room after the game. We're talking to DeMar Hamlin

666
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 9: and Terrell Bernard after their turnovers. They were huge X

667
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Speaker 9: factors in the game and they hoped to be again

668
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Speaker 9: against the Chiefs this weekend. And I'll start with Deamar

669
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Speaker 9: Hamlin his story obviously has been historic, you know, coming

670
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 9: back from death. But he had maybe one of his

671
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 9: best games of his career forcing that fumble on the

672
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 9: sack for Lamar that von Miller runs down the field.

673
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Speaker 9: There's a lot of jokes in the locker room about

674
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Speaker 9: bon Miller getting caught and maybe he would have scored

675
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 9: when he was twenty five. But regardless, this Bill's defense

676
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 9: is in top three in the NFL and takeaways and

677
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 9: really that's been their calling card. They give up some plays,

678
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 9: but they turned the ball over and when they played

679
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes and they're only, you know, the chiefs only

680
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 9: loss of the season earlier this year, they intercepted Patrick

681
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 9: Mahomes twice and they planned the takeaway for him to

682
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Speaker 9: be their calling card again. In Bobby Babbage, their defensive coordator,

683
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Speaker 9: had a incredible plan against the Ravens. They blitzed Lamar

684
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Speaker 9: more than the Bills have against any other team since

685
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty one. They play man coverage. They're typically a

686
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Speaker 9: zone team. Adjusting their scheme. I expect them to do

687
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Speaker 9: something similar to Patrick Mahomes. But one thing to keep

688
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 9: an eye on, Christian Benfort, their starting corner, is the

689
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 9: concussion protocol after a suffering injury on the last play

690
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Speaker 9: of the game. Last week, they're starting safety Taylor Raps

691
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Speaker 9: also dealing with the hip injury. So two secondary injuries

692
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Speaker 9: to watch ahead of that Chiefs game.

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Speaker 4: All right, So their regular season meeting, the Bills handed

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs their first loss of the season. Can they

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Speaker 4: take anything away from that game that applies now?

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Speaker 7: I think what's significant about that game, especially when you

697
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Speaker 7: look at what the Bills did last night to Lamar

698
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Speaker 7: and the Ravens. I mean, they forced those guys into

699
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Speaker 7: uncharacteristic turnovers.

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Speaker 3: And when Patrick.

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Speaker 7: Mahomes and company lost that game in Buffalo, they picked

702
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Speaker 7: off Mahomes twice. Here's what significt.

703
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Speaker 3: That was week eleven.

704
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Speaker 7: That is the last time Patrick Mahomes threw an interception.

705
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Speaker 7: It's the last time he had a giveaway. This is

706
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 7: a team Chiefs offense that has been firing at that

707
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 7: time since that time, and he's been very good at

708
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 7: taking care of the football. Patrick Mahomes has thrown two

709
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 7: hundred and sixty two passes these are pass attempts and

710
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Speaker 7: has not been picked off. That's the longest streak of

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Speaker 7: that kind for him in his career. So they have

712
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Speaker 7: been really good at taking care of the football since

713
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Speaker 7: that loss in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Can they do it again this week?

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Speaker 7: Another thing to note, you know, Travis Kelsey, we talked

716
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Speaker 7: about him going out, going off, but Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith, Schuster,

717
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 7: DeAndre Hopkins, they didn't have a catch in that game

718
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: on Saturday, and Mahomes talked about there were times that

719
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 7: drives were stalling out. He said, that's something they got

720
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Speaker 7: to work on this week. And Andy Reid brought it

721
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Speaker 7: up today. DeAndre Hopkins, by the way, twelve years, this

722
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 7: is his twelfth season in the league. He's never gotten

723
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 7: this far in the postseason. And I know that this

724
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 7: is sort of old hat and out of the Chiefs

725
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 7: going to their seventh straight AFC Championship game, but there's

726
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 7: always those little stories. And Reid said, great thing that

727
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 7: he's going to have the opportunity to do that.

728
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Speaker 9: Sarah, I can't wait for us to be at this game.

729
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 9: Just as we're talking this, I'm getting pumped up. I

730
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 9: had a one on one with Dion Dawkins, the Bills

731
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Speaker 9: left tackle, after the game, and he essentially gave me

732
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 9: a wrestling promo tape.

733
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Speaker 1: He said Josh Allen's the MVP, but Chiefs Bills. Where

734
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Speaker 1: else would you rather be?

735
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Speaker 9: What are you doing if you're not watching this game?

736
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Speaker 9: And I think what's so interesting about the evolution of

737
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 9: Josh Allen is that his numbers are not the same

738
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Speaker 9: as we've previously seen. He's not making these seventy yard

739
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 9: passes as he used to do, but that's by design.

740
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 9: Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator, talked today about really having

741
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 9: the power run game be the core of this team.

742
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 9: That offensive line I mentioned with Dion Dawkins at Spencer Brown,

743
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 9: that's one of the best in the league. Aaron Cromber's

744
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 9: having them their offensive line coach playing excellent ball. They're

745
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 9: not taking sacks or not turning the ball over, and

746
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 9: that's their formula. There is a play in this past

747
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 9: game where Josh Allen is getting stuffed in a run

748
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 9: and you can see in his eyes he's thinking about

749
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 9: pitching it to James Cook. Maybe old Josh Allen would

750
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 9: have made that pitch, Not this new Josh taking care

751
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 9: of the ball and not taking sacks, and they think

752
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 9: that'll be the formula to beat the Chiefs offender.

753
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Speaker 4: Can't wait for this game. I loved the first meeting

754
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: in the regular season. I am sure this one will

755
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Speaker 4: surpass even that one. Thank you, Sarah and Cam. I'm

756
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: sure we'll be talking to you guys much more during

757
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Speaker 4: the week.

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Speaker 1: Washington fans have grown accustomed to any graphic involving them

759
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: at this time a year being about. Oh, I don't know,

760
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: a firing or a congressional investigation. It's a new day,

761
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: it's a new quarterback, it's a new name. It's the

762
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Speaker 1: Commanders and the Eagles in the NFC Championship Game. Welcome

763
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: back to the insiders, Tom Pellisarii and Rappaport, Mike Girafollo,

764
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Speaker 1: joined once again by our Stacy Dales and Stacy. You're

765
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: going to be at this game on Sunday. You're gonna

766
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: get an up close look at Jayden Daniels, who, regardless

767
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: of how big the stage gets, it seems like he's

768
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: that rare guy who is able to step up to

769
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Speaker 1: the plate.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, guys.

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Speaker 6: I was blown away in my preparation for last week's game,

772
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Speaker 6: in which he went in and defeated the Lions in

773
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Speaker 6: that venue in.

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Speaker 1: The way that he did.

775
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 6: I was blown away by the reverence that he has

776
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 6: from his teammates and his coaches. Dan Quinn, the head coach,

777
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 6: said yesterday he's a guy who loves intense pressure. Think

778
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 6: about that. I mean, he's a rookie. They're on this

779
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 6: hot wind streak and he is so poised. But if

780
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 6: you listen to him. I popped my head and his

781
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 6: presser after the game on Saturday, guys, and he said,

782
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 6: I always believe we can achieve more than what people

783
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: give us credit for. That is a rookie speaking that language.

784
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 6: He is rare, and he is poised. They love his

785
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 6: decision making and it's going to be fun to see

786
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: him go against this Eagles team for the third time

787
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Speaker 6: on Sunday.

788
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: An Eagles team coming off a clutch performance by the

789
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: defense down the stretch, there by being able to make

790
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: that stop right there could have easily gone the other way,

791
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: and a defense that did not make the stops the

792
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: last time these two teams met, with Jayden Daniels showing

793
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: that poise, showing that ability to make plays down the stretch,

794
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: you just wonder if it gets into that situation again.

795
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: We've seen this Eagles team up and down make some

796
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: stop to the end of the game. Than I think

797
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: about the Atlanta game early in the year where they

798
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: didn't make those stops. That's kind of what I want

799
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: to see. I want Jayden Daniels with the ball, needing

800
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Speaker 3: to get it into the end zone, let's say four

801
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: to seven points there at the end, and seeing if

802
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: this Eagles defense can make another stop late in the

803
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: game for the second straight week, we shall see.

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Speaker 1: That'd be fun. It will be fun, you know, Stacey.

805
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Speaker 2: One of the main differences from when Jayden Daniels plays

806
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles versus basically everyone else is when he has

807
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: played the Eagles, he has turned the ball over. Last

808
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: time they played turned it over twice. How important is

809
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: winning the turnover battle for the Commanders?

810
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I mean, asked Dan Quinn. You guys

811
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 6: all know he'll say it's all about the ball. In fact,

812
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 6: after the Detroit game they had five takeaways, he said

813
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 6: that game literally came down to the ball and taking

814
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: it away. You're right, though, Ian, I mean in the

815
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 6: last game in Week sixteen, they had five giveaways. You

816
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: mentioned Jayden Daniels, he had two interceptions. They still won

817
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 6: the game. Jalen Hurts didn't play essentially, I mean, he

818
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: was concussed in the first quarter, and we didn't see

819
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 6: him again until you know, recently obviously, so the first

820
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 6: playoff game. So I really feel like that's going to

821
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: be something, and it is something that dan Quinn is

822
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: harping that they have to have ball security because they

823
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 6: can ill afford to go into linked financial field on

824
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 6: Sunday against Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley, who ran by

825
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 6: the way in Week sixteen despite the loss all over

826
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Speaker 6: them one fifty on the ground, two rushing touchdowns, twenty

827
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Speaker 6: nine carries. They will not be able to turn the

828
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 6: ball over and win like they did in Week sixteen

829
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Speaker 6: against this Eagles team. And it is the number one

830
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 6: defense in football, make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 1: Stacy, Thank you very much. We'll be talking with you

832
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: about this game all week long. The NFL honoring doctor

833
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior on MLK Day. Tributes pouring in

834
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: throughout the day from the league and teams. His legacy

835
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Speaker 1: lives on. We had some breaking news earlier today, big

836
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: news out of Chicago, where the Bears have led added

837
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: their top target to be their new head coach. It

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Speaker 1: is Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, who is heading to

839
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Speaker 1: Chicago on a deal that now has been finalized, set

840
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: to fly into Chicago on Tuesday to be introduced a

841
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: very talented new mentor for their number one pick, Caleb Williams.

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00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: This happens to come forty three years to the day

843
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: after the Bears hired that man on the left, that

844
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: is legendary tight end turned legendary head coach, Mike Ditkat

845
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: hired January twentieth of nineteen eighty two, and you might remember,

846
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: won a whole lot of games a few years after

847
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: that in taking the Bears to the Super Bowl. Our

848
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: guys Zando helped us figure out if Ben Johnson were

849
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: to channel the Ditka energy, what would that look like?

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00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mike, do you think do you think

851
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Ben mustache? Yes, the glasses might be too much. Is

852
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: that him? Who is that? Ash? Him? Met? Timms? Betted? Yeah?

853
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 3: Bring back the Ben's head like it's Ben's head listen.

854
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: Bring back the vest like Adam Ranker was on with

855
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: us earlier in the show representing the Chicago Bears has

856
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: already won. Imagine if you show up in that vest.

857
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: I mean it's probably gonna be hot, but imagine you

858
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: show up in that vest. The first game of the season.

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00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter what you do in the field

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00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: that day. You just be wearing that vest. Now after

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00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: that you'd have to perform. But yeah, bring it.

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00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was if it was his, if

863
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: it was his mentor Dan Campbell would be vest, no sleeves,

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Speaker 2: that's the move. It could be as hot as you want.

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00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: Put out the guns, and I mean that answers all questions, right.

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Speaker 4: Judy, I don't understand why this Ben Johnson Mike Ditka

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Speaker 4: mash up there looks like a child's right, It looked

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Speaker 4: like a child version of it in the picture. I

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Speaker 4: don't get that right. Look at how tiny he is there. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: they should bring back the sweater anyway, that are iconic.

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Speaker 1: Bring that back. Yeah, and he's got a babyface. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's had a beard at times. I think the mustache,

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a maturing type of look. That's

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Speaker 1: why Gary Follow's got his a little scruff going there too.

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Speaker 4: I also never knew that like Ditka had curly.

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Speaker 1: Hair like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was amazing, right, Like we need

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Speaker 3: pres commends like that. He was always gonna polder.

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Speaker 1: He looked young there.

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Speaker 3: You see people getting older, all right, don't get.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. That is a handsome man. That's like young Tom

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Speaker 1: Sellek right there. Tory Holts with us on the show tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for watching. He had Eastern time for another

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