WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Wide Open 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:17.280 Cowboys, Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:17.840 Yes? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.720 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:20.520 Absolutely? 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.439 Ready for a break? 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.840 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:29.240 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:36.919 with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.560 It is Monday, August fifth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.800 episode number thirteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.920 live from ox Start, California, were presented by LGLG is 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.160 the world's number one OLED TV brand for eleven years 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.480 in counting See why at LG dot Com. Forward slash 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.440 O Ledevo. Welcome back to the show. Everyone. We've got 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.160 a brand new week here. Cowboys have an off day yesterday, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.160 so today they get back out here, they get rolling. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.560 We got a full week of practicing. Quite frankly, the 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:08.440 best part about. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.160 It is this is the week. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.840 This is the week I love because from now on 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.720 till February that will be football. That will be football 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:16.720 every single weekend. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:17.840 So here we go. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.720 Cowboys getting ready for their first preseason game this coming Sunday, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.400 they'll play the Rams in Los Angeles. Today, though, we're 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.640 gonna get into some camp observations, some things you guys 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.759 have seen from the last couple days of practices. We'll 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.400 also get to a couple of storylines we want to 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.800 hit talk about some injured guys. Let's start first with 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.240 some injury updates. We've got a few names of guys 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.640 that have missed practice. I'm just interested just to hear 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.320 a little bit from you guys on what you've heard 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.520 about these guys and kind of where they are. Let's 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.720 start first with Luke school Maker, who popped up with 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.040 an injury last weekend. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.960 Yeah, injured is growing and that's it's unfortunately, just another 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.240 injury in the early career of Luke schoon Maker. If 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.040 you remember when you first got in the building last year, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.720 was dealing with a planner fasciitis issue from his time 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.960 with the University of Michigan. Missed a little bit of 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.480 time at camp as he rehabbed that and then got 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.720 back on the field, and then this offseason it's been 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.480 a hamstring, it's been a shoulder, it's been now a groin. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.600 So for Luke Schoonmaker to really find a role in 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.880 that tight end room that really suits him. As a 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.120 compliment to Jake Ferguson, He's just gonna have to be 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.760 able to stay on the field. The best ability is availability, 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.120 and unfortunately he's kind of fallen victims to that at times. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.880 Yeah, that's it, And you mentioned the unfortunate part of it. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.360 This is a deep tight end room. We've talked about 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.600 that a bunch, and so the fact that he's standing 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.880 over there by us does him no good. They have 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.720 got some really difficult decisions to make on this, this 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.480 tight end group. And you know, yeah, he's the second 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.040 round pick, but there has to be in that personnel 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.120 trailer when they had their meetings and they talk with 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.240 Britt Brown and Jim Mauer about injuries, and it's Luke 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.000 Schoonmaker's name on there, you know, Mike McCarthy's he's having 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.880 some competitive practices out here to try and figure out 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.320 his team. In the fact that Luke Schoonmaker is not 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.919 part of this, I think it not only hurts him, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.600 but I think it hurts the team because they're trying 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.240 to figure out about these tight ends and can these 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.160 guys be better point of attack blockers in this running game. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.120 Missing that time is bad for everybody involved. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.520 Well, what's unfortunate is that the times that he is 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.040 healthy and the times that he has been on the field, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.280 most often than not, he's doing something really good. Like 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.000 I've seen him make plays at times where it's like, Okay, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.240 that was good. Obviously not perfect every single time, but 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.560 he has those moments where you just wish he could 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.360 have a long stretch where he is healthy so he 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.320 can't reach his full potential. But he hasn't happened yet. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.160 And at this rate, I mean, he might be one 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.480 of those type of players that he's constantly dealing with 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.920 something which we know that's never a good thing. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.720 Was that a little bit and I'm thinking about was 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.880 Dalton Schultz a little bit like that? I just remember 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.840 when Dalton Schultz started his career, there always was kind 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.960 of something that you know that we were kind of like, oh, well, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.280 Dalton Schultz could do this. If Dalton I mean, I 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.600 hope he has the career of Dalton Schultz or that, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.680 but it took him maybe a year or two years, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.480 three years to kind of but they really they don't 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.480 have time to but you know, to have it. But 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.920 if if it's something where he's tight ends or you know, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.400 they've come in they haven't had really good health and 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.080 then all of a sudden, boom, something clicks. Then all 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.039 of a sudden, it's like, oh, I see he's the 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.400 availability part. Oh look and bar he's making more plays 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.760 out here. So yeah, you're right, and I'm the I'm 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.400 like the guy that's driving the Luke's schoon Maker band 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.479 club wagon thing because coming out of Michigan, I thought 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.200 he was a hell of a football player, you know, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.880 and they were. Michigan was physical running the football and 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.720 Luke schoon Maker was a big part of that. We 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.520 just unfortunately haven't seen that here. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.080 Yeah, talking about a rookie who was having a good 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.320 camp that then found himself out of practice. Tyler geet 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.520 and tell him what's going on with him? 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.839 Yeah, dealing with an illness. He missed the weekend practices, 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.599 so that was Friday and Saturday. Would have to maybe 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.640 expect to get him back on the field today. But nevertheless, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.200 just dealing with an illness. It's allowed Chu Maydoga and 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.160 Awesome Richards to pick up some reps now. Cheu Maydoga 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.480 has also also been battling with an injury that's kind 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.760 of kept him off and then back in. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.520 He looks like that seems to be a little bit 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:22.960 of a problem. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.160 Yeah, it looks like a limited type issue. And if 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.240 you remember at camp last year he dealt with an 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.000 ankle issue that kind of kept him in and out 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.600 of camp as well. So it's been really valuable reps 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.240 for Awesome Richards, the second year, fifth round pick out 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.240 of North Carolina, And from what I can tell, he's 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:37.720 he's done well with those opportunities. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.159 Yeah, okay, Derek, you're gonna ask us all camp's observations. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.719 Awesome Richards had an awesome day. Let's go the other day, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.920 and you know, and he was thrown into the situation 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.560 of playing the left tackle spot. It also helps play 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.520 next to Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith can make you, you know, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.039 make you look pretty good over there too. But I'll 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.599 say this, Awesome Richards, it was one of these guys 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.720 where you're kind of going into amp thinking about, Okay, 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.080 swing tackles, who are going to be the guys that 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.400 are the swing tackles, maybe playing some guard. Awesome Richards 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.240 has done that, but at left tackle. In that in 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.240 that practice, the blue white practice, I'll tell you what. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.440 There was some oppressive work with him, you know, and 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.599 him and Kneelan going after each other, two guys. Kneelan's 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.120 trying to not find his way. I think he's gone 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.840 a good path and he was given Awesome Richards all 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.280 he can handle. But Awesome Richards was giving it right 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.479 back to him. So it was good work from those 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:32.240 two guys. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.040 That's great, all right, Ryan Illinois? Where are we with him? 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.200 Man? Practice squad? That's where we're out right now, you know. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.320 And and it's unfortunate. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.480 He's at a position that's pretty deep right now. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.960 He's at a position. And the thing about it is, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.520 you look at these cowboy wide receivers every day there's 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.000 somebody that makes a play. It's not just one or 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.600 two guys. It is they're finding, you know, with Durden 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.240 and guys like that. You know that, you know, I 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.520 was talking it was funny. I was talking with with 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.520 Todd Archer this morning and he goes, what do you 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.239 know about Burnett? I said, number six? Because yeah, guy's 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.880 making place. So that that's the issue that you run 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.480 into when you're a young guy and you're you're a 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.800 rookie and you're as good looking of a physical as 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.760 a player as he looks. You're wanting to see him 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.000 out there catching balls from you know, from Rush and 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.920 Lance and even Dak if he gets the opportunity. But 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.920 standing over there by us kind of looks like a 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.080 practice squad guy right now because you're not being a 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.040 part of what's going on on this field right behind us. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.320 Yeah, Ryan Flinoy dealing with an e issue that's been 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.480 keeping him out since before the pads even came on, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.520 so he hasn't had an opportunity to even put the 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.720 pads on with the team yet. You'd have to hope 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.320 that he's able to get back on the field this 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.480 week in time for the preseason games because, yeah, Brian, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.520 you mentioned these receivers that are really starting to emerge 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.840 here at camp. You also want to mention Tyring, Billy Johnson, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.640 and Chilen Cropper, and there's gonna be probably only one 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.760 or two spots that those four or five guys will 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.840 be fighting for when it comes to a roster spot. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.440 I think the one advantage, obviously the Flinoy would have 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.920 is the fact that he's a six round pick who, 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.800 depending on who you talk to, as far as NFL 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.280 scouts go, he had some hype coming out, would he 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.960 be able to survive a practice squad a practice squad waving? 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.040 And so I think that's probably the one thing you 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.760 would look at when it comes to Flinoy and maybe 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.240 the advantage that he has. But I truly think there's 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.520 not gonna be a sizeable gap between all of these receivers. Man, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.080 it's just getting louder as it gets closer. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.160 Hunt, welcome to training camp. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.960 I think the sizeable gap comes in the preseason. That's 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.760 gonna be really when those reps really do count. The 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.720 preseason work will be really important at that receiver position. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.439 One more name I have for you guys. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.000 When do you, guys expect Trayvon Diggs to get fully 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.560 integrated into practice where he's being able to do everything. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.520 Is that's something that you expect during camp? What do 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.760 you expect that really? Week one is really what you're targeting. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.719 For the wrestling match, Well, he didn't really find you 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.640 just let Mike I do whatever. But after that, I 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.960 mean you would hope anytime soon if you see him 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.400 getting thrown on the floor, are impiked up by another 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:01.880 man who. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:03.760 I don't think. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.320 Body slammed. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.160 No, but I haven't heard any specific I don't know 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:11.880 if you guys. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.439 Have probably has a better perspective of this, I think 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.640 from my perspective, Yeah, I'm with you, Derek as far 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.240 as getting him a nice ramp up period, nothing too competitive, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.840 maybe until they get back to Frisco, uh, and then 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.800 work him back on the field in time for week one. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.120 Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. I talking to some 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:34.560 people that would uh working in that situation. They they're like, listen, no, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.880 hurry here. They're getting really good work from their corners. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.640 By the way, that's one of the if you if 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.800 you said, what are some of the things that you're 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.559 really excited about training camp? It's what these defensive backs 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.280 have been able to do and especially got like Carson 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.079 and you know Scott. I mean, those guys are getting 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.719 really good work. But right now I think it's more 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.400 about uh, they just want to make sure that he's 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.800 completely ready with the workouts and stuff like that. It 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.240 looked like some of the videos he sit before camp, Dad, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.240 Oh he's back. He's back. And I started talking to 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.920 people and it was like, we see those videos, but 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.160 we're still a little bit ways to go. So I 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.559 think they're gonna be very cautiously optimistic to get him 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.959 on the field. I think the time when we get 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.600 back to Frisco would be pretty much. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:17.040 Where you're at. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.520 And quite frankly, he's not gonna play during the preseason, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.120 So just ramp him up as you need to get 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.320 him ready for a week one is the way I 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:23.960 look at it. All Right, we're gonna take our first 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.440 break when we come back. We're gonna get some practice 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:27.040 and notes from you guys. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:27.320 Brian. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.600 I actually saw an interesting tweet you had yesterday. 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See it for yourself at LG 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:28.839 dot com slash. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.560 O led Evil, Welcome Back. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:31.160 It is a. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.400 Little bit I saw in the middle. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.559 Of Welcome Back. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.920 It is second second Break live from Oxnard, California. And 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.640 today let's talk a little bit about some let's get 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:43.400 some practice updates. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:44.200 I want to start first. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.839 O'Brien, you had something interesting you said on Twitter that 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.599 thought about practices. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.080 Here was what you tweeted. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.880 You said, Mick McCarthy setting up practice the way he 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.080 has is making them more mentally tough. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:55.760 Uh. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.920 This was a marathon on Saturday. Tell me what you 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.040 meant by that. Explain that a little bit. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:04.319 Yeah, you know, when there's been some times in past administrations. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.280 You know, I remember the Jason Garrett administration. There were 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.600 practices where it seemed like it would go on and 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.760 on and on and on, and you'd get the work 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.040 and on and you could really get something out of 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.840 the practice. You can see the mental the toughness the 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.120 players having to fight through that practice he had on Saturday. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.440 It was about thirty minutes too long. Yeah it was long, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.840 you know what. But he tested his team. He tested 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.600 his young guys there at the end, and I think 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.440 overall just not this practice with Mike, but we've seen 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.200 when they go individual, then they turn around, they immediately 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.360 go into whether maybe it's a mojo moment on the 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.520 goal line, we're running two point plays. It's competitive. You know. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.360 He's trying to do things nine on seven period where 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.440 immediately get into the running game one on one, immediately 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:55.200 get into that the period they had where they close out, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.440 walk out, you know, the goal line period, get the 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.080 defense points first stop, give the offense of course touchdowns 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:07.280 that they score. He's really trying to find ways to 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.960 get his team more mentally tough and to fight through things. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.000 You know, people will tell you though, with Mike McCarthy, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.040 maybe the first several years was Okay, we're gonna kind 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.560 of go ease in the pract and we're gonna do this, 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.600 so we're gonna, you know, we're gonna take our time. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.560 Every and the players will tell you that Mike McCarthy's 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.520 a great guy, but for he really cares about us, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.040 our bodies and how we're practicing and stuff. But I 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.560 get a little bit more sense, and maybe it's because 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.480 of the situation with everybody overall. It's like, Okay, I've 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.200 tried it this way, maybe I need to think about 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.400 it this way. And I'm not saying he's doing the 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:49.080 Jimmy Johnson Austin, Oklahoma drills out here, but you are 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:54.640 getting competitive practices where there's a lot more competition than 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.200 what we've seen the last several years from him. I 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.600 really really like what I'm what I'm seeing as far 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.400 as the way he's setting up these practices. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.680 But also it's kind of ramping up, like he has 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.520 to be like, hey, let me just throw you to 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.880 the deep end of the waters. It's been like a 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.760 slowly growing progress. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:17.760 Well, you're seeing like the reason why guys like Awesome Richardson, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.920 Thomas the Guard and others and or you could see 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.120 these guys niel and you see them getting work and 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.120 see them getting better. Is because in the receivers the time, whoever, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.280 guys are getting opportunities to compete. You know, Yes, we 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.240 have the mock game, which if you want to take 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.520 a nap is great. You know you could take an 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.760 It's it's an easy way to recover. But you're you're 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.800 able to talk about these guys and write about these 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.040 guys in a way because you are having more competition 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.600 at positions. It's like, Okay, if we're going to if 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.040 we're gonna cut this team, let's know about this team. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.280 And I think they're doing a really good job of 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.560 making these players work through longer practices but also practices 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.680 that tax them physically more than what we've seen. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.560 In the past. Yeah, it's an emphasis on the youth too, 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.200 whenever you factor all of that in, just because of 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.119 the bodies that have been available, the bodies that are 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.960 here at training camp in general, I think having those 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.360 opportunities for the young guys on the team, especially going 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.080 into the preseason, that's gonna be huge. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:22.359 All Right, we're gonna go down the line. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.480 We want to get some practice observations. Give me a 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.879 player group moment, something that stood out to you in 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.080 practice over the last couple practices. Let's start with Unick. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:32.280 Yeah, I must up in front of the line here, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.680 Kayln Carson. As far as the rookie class goes, I 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:37.840 would have to say he's been the most impressive so far. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.960 You talk about physicality and the entire Yeah, and that's 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.040 our rookie class. He's been the most impressive as far 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.280 as you know, factoring in draft value and how he's 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.760 come in and approached the opportunity that's in front of him. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.000 I mean, we're looking up again. It's before the preseason, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.000 so there's still some time for some things to shake out. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.560 But he's the c before in my book, behind the 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.040 three starters. He's a guy that I think could play 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.040 inside or outside. I think he's a guy that you 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.040 probably want on the boundary a little bit more just 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.280 because of his physicality, his ability to step up in 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.720 the run game on the outside too. But man, I 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.520 love his physicality. Sometimes a little bit too physical out here. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.280 There was there was a play I think it was 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.119 on Friday where Dak Prescott was kind of scrambling out 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.919 and just trying to get out of bounds, and Kaylen 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.600 had kind of grabbed his shoulder pad a little bit 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.680 and kind of torked him back a little bit, and 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.119 Dak looked back at him like, hey, hands off the merchandise, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.480 like you know, keep your keep your keep your hands 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.600 for yourself. And it was kind of a funny moment 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.200 here on the sideline. But at Kaylin Carson's been great. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.000 Anytime that there's a ball in front of him, he's 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.480 going to attack it. It doesn't matter who's in front 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.680 of him. He's done a really good job so far. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.159 He's been the most impressive rookie in my eyes right now. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.200 If you had to compare Na Sean Wright to Kaylin Carson, 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:43.160 where would you put the two. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.879 Yeah, I think Kaylen moves a lot better. Kaylen is 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.159 always in the right spot a little bit better. I 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.840 think with Nashan, it's just a sense of, you know, 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.160 there's sometimes a little bit too much separation in those 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.400 short to intermediate routes, and unfortunately that's what you get 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.960 whenever you do have a corner that has that kind 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:00.560 of length in that kind of frame. I mean, he's 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.200 a six foot four corner, which really works in certain 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.200 instances and especially in zone coverage. If this was a 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.719 zone coverage type defense, it was built to be this 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.400 man type team, this physical type team, and I think 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.000 sometimes it just doesn't work to Nashawn Wright's favor. But 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:15.960 I have Carson above right. If I was stacking the 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.840 depth chart right now on August. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:25.760 Fifth, ye, well, Mine, it's two starters, so everybody knows these. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.720 Brandon Cooks is one of them. I think it's worth 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.639 mentioning him. He's had such a good camp from the 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.920 moment he got here, same as last year. My only 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.919 concern is, Okay, are they really gonna utilize him this 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.520 year more than they did last year. The second guy 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.080 that I think it's worth mentioning as well, and I've 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.000 been wanting to talk about him is Micah Parsons. I mean, 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:52.159 he started to ramp things up and just make his 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.720 presence known on the field, and I wanted to mention this. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.440 I know some people are not buying it the whole act, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.199 but to me, I like when people. I like to 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:08.199 give people the chance to show change and growth and 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.960 off the field. I think he's starting to make that 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.600 change where he's growing, He's being more vocal in a 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.200 nice way. He's portraying and carrying himself as a better teammate, 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.879 just more friendly around people. I've seen several interactions just 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.960 off the field when they you know, family members, starts 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.520 getting getting on the field. I've seen him have interactions 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.320 with Stephen Jones where he's just extremely nice and just 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.639 relatable in a way. And the way he talks on 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.960 the podium as well. So again, I know attitude has 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.280 been a topic that we talked a lot about during 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.760 the off season with Micah Parsons, and I think whether 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.080 or not it is fake to me, I find some 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:52.800 of those interactions very genuine in my perspective. So right now, 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.560 it's just a great sign for this moment of the 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.600 year to head into the season with the Micah Parsons 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.960 that is just portraying positive energy and also being a 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.000 badass on the field. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.480 You know, you always ask these questions and I'm never 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.880 gonna give you the answer you exactly want to hear. 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.680 Give me Mike Zimmer for the coach. Okay, all right, 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.680 he's making it hell on these quarterbacks. Yeah, the way 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:25.080 that these secondary the linebackers are disguising coverages, the way 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.600 he's moving Parsons around the way that he's he's making 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.840 it tough on these quarterbacks. The way the quarterbacks are 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.479 having to respond. We haven't seen this nothing against dan Quinn. 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.720 More static, more stationary. But you don't see the disguise 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.880 with Mike. You see the disguise you see you see 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:49.080 Blitzer's home free on rush lea foul against the Ones. 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.440 All of a sudden, Mike shows double a gap Leah 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.520 foul's home bus maybe, but how did he get to 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.879 the situation where he got lea foul free? By the 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.119 way he showed, like he made the offensive line have 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.560 to adjust to something else he was showing, and then 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.680 he ran a guy home free. Now, my player, Hunter 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:11.560 Lipkey has shown a lot in this camp to me 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.480 so far. Talk to him if you want to talk 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.960 about guys and we and we love to talk about 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.760 the word consistency. You love that word. If you talk 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.400 about a guy that's had to practice a good practice 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.879 really every single day. To me, it's Hunter Lipkey. I 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.280 watched him the other day. There was a scramble drill 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.160 with Trey lance Ball comes kind of fluttering out there 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.320 on a you know, Hunter Lipkey's twenty five yards down 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:41.120 the field, low adjusting scooping catch off the ground. Next play, 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.040 he's coming in motion blocking. Next day, next play they're 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.240 throwing him the football. They've kind of figured some things 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.600 out for Hunter Lipkey, and I think the way that 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.760 they figured things out, if you want to start talking 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.080 about the running back situation, you could you could kind 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:57.640 of throw out that you could kind of just talk 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.440 about I'm talking about Hunter Lipkey as far as the 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.480 guy that's shown the most consistency out here and all 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:04.800 the things they're asking him to do. 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.720 And do you think kind of in the running back situation, 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.080 you look at the dynamics of that room, Hunter Lippi's 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.639 kind of on an island by himself. Yes, he's a 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.879 lead blocker. He does what no other running back in 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.240 that room can do, I mean, a true fullback role. 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:18.760 And I think he's got a safe roster. 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.600 Yeah, two minute running back in the game as a 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.520 blocker and then there's a catcher. You know, those are 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:27.080 the types of things that you absolutely they're going to 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.080 find roles for him, much like it is like with Terpin. 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.000 You know, let's put him in the backfield, let's throw 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.080 him the ball, Let's hand him the ball. You know, 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.040 those are the kinds of things that I really like. 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.639 I don't know. I don't know if the starting running 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.000 back is in this field right now practicing, but I 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.600 do know they've got a weapon in a full back, 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:51.000 h back, whatever tight end, whatever position. They might keep 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.960 one less tight end knowing what they have with with 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.960 Hunter Lipky and his ability to play as a wing 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.280 or maybe even play a little in line for in 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.080 line next to the tackle there. 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.080 Which even gets more interesting when you start thinking about 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.280 tight end being one of the deepest positions they've got 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.359 on his team and now you got a guy that 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.000 might alter that even and say, like that's where we 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.160 start getting back to that original conversational schoolmaker, like, man, 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.800 you gotta get out there. You got to got a 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.960 way to get out there, because not being out there 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.359 is a hard thing when you're talking about cutting this 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.639 team down and knowing that you got a bunch of 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.160 tight ends that you really love, and you got now 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:27.120 a fullback. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.320 That you really love. Hunter. 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.040 He got a chance to talk to the media, and great, 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.040 he did a great job. He everything he said. But 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.399 I just wanted to say this because you're not welcome 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.400 to the show. And last week got to make some fun. 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:40.120 Of you Nick. 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.640 Talking to the media saying everything. You know, he has 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.600 a serious face, very professional, and I wish you guys 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.000 could have seen. I mean, we stopped a few photos, 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.280 but Nick is just standing there. His face is just 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:55.360 like it's like. 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.159 You remember Proud Brian both playbourn You remember that, I 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.720 remember Proud can't Yeah. 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:05.320 Nick did his Proud Brian face, just washing those they 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:06.359 don't know happen. 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:07.200 But those don't know. 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.520 Nick has been like one of the biggest Hunter lip 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.879 keeper up, like you've been all over the Hunter lip 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.600 from the fan club since he got here. And so 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.520 for you right now, you're just like, yeah, give me more. 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.480 On his face, like, oh yeah, let's go. 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.320 If you hadn't know what I was thinking when Clayborne 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.240 walked past me and had that interception that sealed the game, Yeah, 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.960 in my mind, I go, it's about and time. That's 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.960 what I was thinking. So it wasn't really Proud, it 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:42.000 was I was looking like, bro, it's about time. 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.679 All right, you remember gonna do we gonna take our 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.120 final break when we come back. We're gonna talk about 0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.720 this receiver position you guys have alluded to it. 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I think it is a position that 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.560 most would consider who have been out here practice to 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:03.280 be probably the most the most competitive group from the 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.000 standpoint of going deep into that roster of guys who 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.840 were showing and as you said Brian earlier, making plays. 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.400 Every single day you see different guys stepping up and 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.960 making plays. Let's start first with two guys. I think 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.120 that coming into camp we all were keeping an eye 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.360 on from the standpoint of who's going to be your 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.000 third wide receiver. I call it the battle of the Jalens. 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.440 You got Jalen Tolbert, you got Jalen Brooks. Tell me 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.240 how you think that's been playing out so far here 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.120 through the first week and a half of practice. 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.120 Yeah, it's kind of funny we were talking about, you know, 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.600 coming into camp, who could probably be that wide receiver three. 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.760 There's gonna be a lot more opportunities on the table 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.880 with Ceedee Lamb holding out and the Jalen's are the 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.520 first two guys you look at, and I think we 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.640 look up a week and a half, almost two weeks 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.480 in the camp, you could say three A and three B. 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.840 When it comes to those guys, I give the edge 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.640 to Tolbert just because I think he's been a lot 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.760 more consistent. You see the offseason work that he's put 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.080 in with Dak Prescott translating onto the field. And not 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.720 to say that Jalen Brooks hasn't been phenomenal too. He's 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.040 got some of the strongest hands out here for any player. 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.800 When you put the ball in his vicinity, nine times 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.520 out of ten he's bringing it down. That's a pretty 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.480 good clip. And he's been trusted by all three quarterbacks 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.480 in different parts of two minute drills, mojo moments, goal 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.760 line situations. So both of these guys have really stood out, 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.200 but the edge goes to Tolbert for me, Yeah. 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.160 I would say the same thing. I mean, they're very, 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.800 very close, and I'm a huge fan of Brooks. I've 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.720 always really liked him since last year. I think he 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:27.280 showed moments as well during last year. But it is 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.160 very close. Jail in Tolbert. I think he's also been 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:35.400 getting a lot, like slightly more opportunities than Brooks, so 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.560 that gives him an advantage as well. You talk about 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.920 that off season work that he's done, it's very evident 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.360 that he's been working and has a really good relationship 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.360 with Dak Prescott, so I think it's starting to show 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.520 more on the field. Great job by him for putting 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.280 in the work. I know we killed him that first 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.640 year and he wasn't really doing much, Like, oh man, 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.920 is this one of those buzz type of picks. And 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.400 he's starting to show a lot of things now. But 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.520 here's my thing. When and I'm sure we're gonna go 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.880 down the line of the other guys in the depth 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.360 chart here, it's just like every year, I feel like 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.280 training camp, it is a time where wide receivers do 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.440 stand out. So how do you start kind of putting 0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.360 some different glasses on to try to filter out the 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.440 things that you see now, but then you stop seeing later, 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.480 So to me, I'm still trying to figure that part out. 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.720 Yeah, this receiving Corps as a whole has done a 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.240 really good job of making the front office have to 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.680 think about how many receivers are they gonna really carry 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.720 and if it turns into we can't keep them all, 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.680 then now you turn into surplus. And a lot of 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.959 times in the league when you start to say, okay, 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.360 we're short in this position, but we've got surplus at 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:54.120 receiver maybe somebody's following us, maybe somebody's watching preseason games 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.600 and they're saying, Okay, Dallas has got an extra receiver. 0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:02.040 That's probably it might be six or seven on their chart, 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.840 but they could be a four or five on our chart. 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.160 So that's where, all of a sudden, when you have 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.880 those competitive periods, that all of a sudden it's like, well, 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.600 Dallas might have a surplus in this position. You get 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.760 Lamb back, and the next thing you know, everybody goes 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.560 down a notch and you got to kind of figure 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.840 that out. I'll say this about Tolbert, I wasn't sure 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.760 he had the mental toughness to do this. I really didn't. 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:30.600 I thought that Brooks. Brooks is a mentally tough guy. Tolbert, 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:34.800 when you watch him practice, his uniform gets dirty out here. 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.840 He's diving for balls, he's got dirt stains, grass stains. 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.440 He's trying his best to be competitive. He's running a 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.280 lot of routes, he's getting open, he's finishing plays. Those 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:50.280 are all things that when we were looking at Tolbert 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.440 and talking about what can he do, he's showing that 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.920 to you right now. I was worried that he wasn't 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.840 going to be as tough as Brooks when it came 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.720 to the stomach to have to do this and do 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.600 the dirty work and able to solidify that spot. But 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.120 he's done a nice shop so far. 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.320 When you look at these receivers. One of the things 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.080 that I think pops out to me is, and I said, 0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.560 coming into camp, I really wanted the Cowboys to consider 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.440 Cavante Turpin really filling in a lot more, maybe even 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.880 being that wide receiver Thie three. I think one of 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.160 the challenges there is he's really pretty much a slot guy. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.200 You're not gonna put him on the boundary very much. 0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.480 And I wonder you guys tell me, do you think 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.080 that that's really the reason why he won't necessarily be 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.760 the guy that gets that many reps from the standpoint 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.280 of being the third type wide receiver because they really 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.440 can't move them around n CD Lamb plays very well 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:39.680 out of the slot. You can do the same thing 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.160 with Cooks. It just isn't enough opportunity for him as 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:42.640 in the slot. 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.680 Yeah, it's crazy that maybe he might be their best 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:46.880 running back. You know, when you start to talk about 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.680 tossing him the ball, handing him the ball there is 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.480 some explosiveness out of the backfield with him. What's surprising 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.400 about Turpin is how well he gets open and tight 0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.800 red zee and you're thinking, little guy get lost kind 0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.480 of a thing, but no, he knows how to work 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.280 the end zone when the quarterback's in trouble. He knows 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.400 how to move to find space. He's got that awareness. 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.440 Do you play him on the outside in the field. 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.319 Probably not, But you know there's times where he caught 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.880 a slant the other day from Dak and I was 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:21.080 like going, wow, okay on the outside. The shortest receiver 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.800 you got running an inside slant route with tight coverage 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.279 comes up with the play. So there's times where he 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.920 does show that ability to play on the outside. But 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.680 he'll surprise you with how well he plays in the 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.120 red zone. I think that's impressive thing that he does 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:36.600 as well. 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.680 Yeah, I understand the point as far as maybe there 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.920 is a duplication in the receiving core, as far as 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.040 what he could do versus maybe what Ceedee Lamb could do. 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.279 But if you isolate Cavante Turpin speed with the ball 0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.520 in his hands, things are gonna happen. And I think 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.680 if they can find a way to consistently do that 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.480 in this offense, then he's gonna find some success. I mean, 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.439 we saw it points last year in a couple of games. 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.359 The San Francisco game really stands out in the first half. Now, 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.319 while that one drive did not mean a whole lot, 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.600 that touchdown tribe that did happen in the first half, 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.960 Cavante Turpin was huge on that drive. Then he ended 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.840 up scoring on the wheel route. I believe it was 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.520 on the right side, over the shoulder, tracked in the ball, 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.200 and then you factor in what he could do out 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.399 of the backfield. As long as you get the ball 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.800 in Cavante Turpin's hands, I think things are gonna happen. 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.280 Second year, going into Mike McCarthy's offense, it's allowing Turpin 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:23.120 to really digest and let this entire offensive system soak in. 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.040 I think he's gonna have more success than he had 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:25.480 last year. 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.920 And I love everything that he's been doing so far. 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.239 And we know he's fast, We've known this, we know 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:32.120 he has the speed. 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:32.879 But to me, the. 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.400 Difference this right now is that he has grown as 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.440 far as like anticipation. He can anticipate things so much better. 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.279 So mentally, what he's seen on the field, I've I've 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.160 seen that be completely different than last year. Sometimes you 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.400 would see him running and then he gets lost. It's like, okay, 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:56.960 he does a little dance. Would remind me of what 0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.800 was his name, Whitehead Wicky Whitehead? 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:05.799 Wow, I just remember the red dreads at some point. 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.440 Anyways, a point I always remember him because he was 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.360 he was fast, but he would always dance around and 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.040 at the end of the day, you didn't gain much. 0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.600 He's just running on the same spoty kind of. Anyways, 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.440 the point is with Cavante, he's he's what his vision 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.440 has improved so much, and I think he can be 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.640 a really, really good weapon that the Cowboys can truly 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.280 start utilizing even more this season. 0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.160 All Right, So when we look at the depth of 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.120 the wide receiver position, I think we all probably agree 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.080 that you got obviously your top two guys in CD 0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.960 and Cooks, You've got Cavante Turpin who will be on 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.319 this team, and then we all seem to love what 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.160 we're seeing from Jalen Tobert and Jalen Brooks. The question is, 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.560 if they're gonna go six. 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:47.799 Who's that final spot. 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:49.480 So I'm gonna give you four names I want you 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.520 guys to rank these four guys based on what you've 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:56.359 seen so far in camp Tyron, Billy Johnson, Deontay Burnett, 0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.640 who just got here but has been very, very very impressive, 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.280 Jalen Cropper, and David Durden. 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.080 I'll start there. I'll just based on what we've seen 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:10.799 out here. I'll go Tyron, Billy Johnson, Jalen Cropper, Burnette, 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.040 and then Durden for me, Billy Johnson, I mean that speed, 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.719 the veteran experience. You're kind of seeing that translate now. 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.359 We were able to talk to him the media after 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:23.040 practice on Friday, and he said that this is the 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.640 first time in his career he's been able to have 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.840 the same offense two years in a row, and so 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.160 you see that confidence kind of coming out here, and 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.920 he's been able to really show that he's been trusted 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.560 by Dak Cooper, Rush Trey Lance. He didn't have the 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.919 best Blue and White practice on Saturday, but he's really 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.400 been stacking days out here. But at the end of 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.480 the day, like leg I've said, and like Ambar said earlier, 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.560 there's always a receiver out here that comes out and 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.120 shows out will it translates to the preseason field. That's 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.080 gonna be the biggest thing. I think Jalen Cropper is 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.279 coming for Tyron. Billy Johnson. I mean, he had two 0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.480 touchdowns and two minute drills on Saturday year in the 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.440 Blue White practice. In my eyes, I think he had 0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:02.040 the best practice of any receiver at camp on Saturday. 0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:03.759 So he's coming right there. And I love what I've 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.160 seen from Burnett and Dirten as well. 0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:11.919 I was gonna put Cropper ahead mainly because but here's 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:16.000 the reason why. The reason to me is like, you're 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.120 only as good as, in my eyes, as the last 0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.680 thing that you showed. So he's the most recent one 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.879 that has been making place, and to me, that's that's 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.120 what stays on your mind. You can easily forget what 0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.479 happened a week ago. So to me, that's why he's 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.800 in the lead right now at the moment. 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:32.440 Cropper. 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.560 Then I would go Billy Johnson. He's shown a lot 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.319 of good things that I like. I like his speed too, 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.320 He's a quick guy on his feet. And then I 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.880 would go with Burnett and then Dirt and those two guys, 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.399 to me, though they're kind of right there, I don't 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.560 it's whoever makes the last play, and that's who takes 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.160 a spot for me. They're they're not that much different 0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:55.839 from what I've seen so far. 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:58.920 It's not a plug Vanilla Shu guy, but I'll give 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.960 a plug to Anilla'shue guy. Racy McMath has shown some 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.600 he's got size, and I know he's not part of 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.799 the four that we're talking about. I do feel like 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.840 that Cropper is closer to Billy Johnson to that point 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.719 where you know if you said, Okay, now the competition, 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.399 and I mentioned about being in the personnel trailer, and 0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.560 then you look at the tags on the board and 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.799 you're like, Okay, can we keep six receivers? Can we 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.400 afford to do this? This thing might come down to 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:32.440 special teams in the preseason, believe it or not. So 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.960 that's where I kind of like focus sin. But I 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.400 really do like what I've seen with Cropper and his 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.319 ability to get open, secure the football and make some 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:43.000 plays for you. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.240 The one thing I will point out, and I've already 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:46.680 mentioned it a little bit, but I want to I 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.799 can't stress it enough. One of the things I love 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.120 that I've seen over the last couple of days from 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.040 Deontay Burnett is the fact that he's a guy, that 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.760 he's not a big guy, but what you keep seeing 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.319 from over and over again, it's it's interesting. You see 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.839 a play and you'll see a ball get thrown and 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.759 you'll see the receiver covered and you're like, surely that's 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.040 gonna be broken up, right, But somehow he comes up 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.120 with the ball. It's like everything that gets to him 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.480 sticks to him, and even in traffic. And again, he's 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.520 not a big guy. He's a little guy guy, but 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.919 he has the ability whenever the ball gets thrown his way, 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.719 if it's within catching radius, he seems to catch it. 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:21.799 He seems to come down with it. 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.000 And I really like that. 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.360 And I think if he would have been here and 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:25.960 been doing all of that that he's done in the 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.880 last couple of days since the beginning of camp, I 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:30.799 do think we'd be talking about him a little bit more. 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.319 And that's why I would say, keep an eye on 0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.440 this guy. If he keeps developing like that, and certainly 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.520 if he gets into the preseason and does what he's 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:38.360 been doing out here, I think that's going to be impressive. 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.680 There's only been one guy in this receiver dut Chart, 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.480 and I'd love for you all to guests here that 0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.680 I have not seen drop a pass while we've been 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.440 here at training camp. Probably durd d I have seen one. 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:49.760 I have seen one from Durden. 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.040 It seems like every time they throw him the ball. 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.160 He does have some strong hands. Yeah, I have to 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:55.719 give it to him because I think a lot of 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:57.920 people wrote him off after that injury and it was like, Okay, 0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.560 once he heals up, he'll be out of here. But 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.080 they've even him another training camp opportunity. He's run with it. 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.040 But no, that's that's not the game Cam Johnson. 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.840 It's Cam Johnson. It's he has some strong hands. And 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.080 it's unfortunate because he's this undrafted free agent, came out 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.520 of a Big ten program that didn't have a lot 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.719 of offensive production last year, so there's not a lot 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.759 of buzz around his name. But man, he's got some 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.680 strong hands. He's got a little bit of a route tree. 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.120 It's not really downfield, it's more short to intermediate. But 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.640 he's been really trusted in some situations with the second 0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.080 and thirteen. That's a guy to keep an eye on 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:26.759 in the preseason. 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.160 Do you think the Cowboys This is really might be 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.680 a weird question, but I think the Cowboys are getting 0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.640 more out of CD not being here because all these 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.160 guys are getting more opportunities, or would you get more 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.279 if CD was here and being able to create that 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.759 connection or not create continue that connection he has with that. 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:48.680 I think as a group it with CD not here, Yeah, 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.959 you're getting it. But I think if CD was here, 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.480 we'd still see it be a strong group. We'd probably 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.640 be talking about this group like we talk about the linebackers. No, 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.560 it's like, boy, it's a good room, you know. Man, 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:05.000 These young guys are making place every day. Somebody that 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.919 we mentioned in this in this segment we just did, 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.319 somebody makes a play. It might be one play, it 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.719 might be two plays, it might be but they they're 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.960 showing up and the fall off has not been big. 0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.239 Sometimes there's fall off, but not with this group right now. 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.240 Yeah, I think uh, I mean, yeah, obviously you're gonna 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.759 take advantage of those extra reps though you're gonna get 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.400 without CD being here. But at the same time, I 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.800 mean it glues the group. He he what do you 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:34.360 say coming? 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:35.239 People keep passing it? 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:39.279 Do you guys? Oh my goodness, we keep We thought 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.040 it was gonna happen this this past week and they 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:47.520 still has not. But I think, if anything, him not 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:52.520 being here hurts the group more, and I hope they 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.279 can figure out very quickly because we and Derek, we 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.319 were talking about it a little bit uh off off 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:03.160 the show off, but we tend to see sometimes. To 0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.320 me what I've seen from situations like that, it tends 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.719 to it's gonna take a few games. And you can 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:12.960 see that at the beginning of the season. Can you 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.680 afford to have a few games where it kind of 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.320 takes him a while to get back on track Because 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:22.520 one thing is practicing on the field in Dack's backyard 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.759 and hanging out together. Another thing is a real football game, 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.960 when the lights come on, when real football is happening, 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.440 and when you're dealing with so many other variants happening. 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.719 So anyways, to answer your question, I think it hurts 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.160 more him not being here. 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.640 I was talking about with my amazing roommate here at 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.160 camp yesterday. It was like, so, if CD like shows 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.680 up tomorrow, do you think he would be ready in 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.080 time for the Rams practice on Thursday? And I was like, yeah, 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.480 probably not. Like whenever he does get here, there's still 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.840 gonna be a ramp up period, And so this staff 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.560 is very intentional about whenever guys arrive and they've been 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.440 away from the team for a little bit, get them 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.240 back integrated, make it slow so that they're not rushing anything, 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.120 both with the process and with their body. So yeah, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.320 even if if cdee Lamb did show up today or tomorrow, 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.920 we're probably not seeing him in full, full pads and 0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.880 full go until probably next week's that's a that's a 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:10.439 scenario that's not gonna happen anyway. 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.520 Yeah, sorry about that kind of an observation out real 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.640 quick though. We talk about these guys coming off injuries, 0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.040 are you seeing John Stevens the same way as you 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:18.919 saw him last year? 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.200 It's it's fascinating because. 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.680 I know I haven't. Yeah, he's still there's still positive 0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:30.040 plays about it, but I don't see the splash or 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.520 the big plays that and maybe that coming off that 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.560 knee injury. I mean, that's something we always worry about, 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.799 you know, how long before these guys. You know, he's 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.520 fighting for he's fighting for a spot. But man, he 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.319 was so good this time last year. But I kind 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.160 of feel like that I've seen him just not as 0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:47.640 much as I've seen some others. 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.840 He's a different player this time because he has the 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.880 eleven twelve pounds added. Yeah, he's learning how to marry 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.279 that new size that he has with his ability. Also 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:57.759 trying to understand like what where he fits as an 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.319 inline guy in this offense. I think there's a lot 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.480 of learning and understanding that he's soaked up in his 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.680 brain over the course of last year, and now he's 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.480 trying to apply it all at once on the field. 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.120 I say, give him a couple of weeks just to 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.040 kind of apply all that. 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.600 I was just worried about that knee injury thing that 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:15.360 we always like, oh yeah they're back, Yeah, everything's great, 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.520 and then it's week six that all, oh wow, he 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.320 looks like he's ready to play football. 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.359 I will say he has suffered from the drops he's 0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:22.719 out here. 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.520 That's he's had that you mentioned catches and drops. That's 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:26.839 kind of what I was noticing too. 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.120 All right, appreciate you guys. Jonas will be back on 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:32.400 I'm sorry on Wednesday. We'll be back on Wednesday. On 0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:39.120 Wednesday after Nobu, we will be here. 0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:42.000 Can you host him? I'm it's not that serious, Derek. 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.479 You can jump on the show and just ask are. 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:45.239 You saying you're gonna host. 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:47.440 This is what you do? 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:50.120 You want to host. I think it's a good idea. 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:51.440 I like to give opportunities. 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.360 If you got drunk, you don't even get that, I 0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:54.719 really do. 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.440 All right, But we'll be back Wednesday. 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.560 We may be a shell of ourselves, but we'll be 0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.680 back Wednesday. 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