1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys, Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: Yes? 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 5: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 5: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 6: It is Monday, August fifth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 6: episode number thirteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 6: live from ox Start, California, were presented by LGLG is 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 6: the world's number one OLED TV brand for eleven years 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 6: in counting See why at LG dot Com. Forward slash 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 6: O Ledevo. Welcome back to the show. Everyone. We've got 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 6: a brand new week here. Cowboys have an off day yesterday, 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 6: so today they get back out here, they get rolling. 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 6: We got a full week of practicing. Quite frankly, the 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 6: best part about. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: It is this is the week. 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 6: This is the week I love because from now on 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 6: till February that will be football. That will be football 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 6: every single weekend. 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: So here we go. 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 6: Cowboys getting ready for their first preseason game this coming Sunday, 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 6: they'll play the Rams in Los Angeles. Today, though, we're 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 6: gonna get into some camp observations, some things you guys 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 6: have seen from the last couple days of practices. We'll 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 6: also get to a couple of storylines we want to 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: hit talk about some injured guys. Let's start first with 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 6: some injury updates. We've got a few names of guys 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 6: that have missed practice. I'm just interested just to hear 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 6: a little bit from you guys on what you've heard 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 6: about these guys and kind of where they are. Let's 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 6: start first with Luke school Maker, who popped up with 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 6: an injury last weekend. 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, injured is growing and that's it's unfortunately, just another 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: injury in the early career of Luke schoon Maker. If 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: you remember when you first got in the building last year, 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: was dealing with a planner fasciitis issue from his time 42 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: with the University of Michigan. Missed a little bit of 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: time at camp as he rehabbed that and then got 44 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: back on the field, and then this offseason it's been 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: a hamstring, it's been a shoulder, it's been now a groin. 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: So for Luke Schoonmaker to really find a role in 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: that tight end room that really suits him. As a 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: compliment to Jake Ferguson, He's just gonna have to be 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: able to stay on the field. The best ability is availability, 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: and unfortunately he's kind of fallen victims to that at times. 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, And you mentioned the unfortunate part of it. 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: This is a deep tight end room. We've talked about 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: that a bunch, and so the fact that he's standing 54 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: over there by us does him no good. They have 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: got some really difficult decisions to make on this, this 56 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: tight end group. And you know, yeah, he's the second 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: round pick, but there has to be in that personnel 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: trailer when they had their meetings and they talk with 59 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: Britt Brown and Jim Mauer about injuries, and it's Luke 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Schoonmaker's name on there, you know, Mike McCarthy's he's having 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: some competitive practices out here to try and figure out 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: his team. In the fact that Luke Schoonmaker is not 63 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: part of this, I think it not only hurts him, 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: but I think it hurts the team because they're trying 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: to figure out about these tight ends and can these 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: guys be better point of attack blockers in this running game. 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: Missing that time is bad for everybody involved. 68 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 7: Well, what's unfortunate is that the times that he is 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 7: healthy and the times that he has been on the field, 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 7: most often than not, he's doing something really good. Like 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 7: I've seen him make plays at times where it's like, Okay, 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 7: that was good. Obviously not perfect every single time, but 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 7: he has those moments where you just wish he could 74 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 7: have a long stretch where he is healthy so he 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 7: can't reach his full potential. But he hasn't happened yet. 76 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 7: And at this rate, I mean, he might be one 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 7: of those type of players that he's constantly dealing with 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 7: something which we know that's never a good thing. 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: Was that a little bit and I'm thinking about was 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz a little bit like that? I just remember 81 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: when Dalton Schultz started his career, there always was kind 82 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: of something that you know that we were kind of like, oh, well, 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz could do this. If Dalton I mean, I 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: hope he has the career of Dalton Schultz or that, 85 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: but it took him maybe a year or two years, 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: three years to kind of but they really they don't 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: have time to but you know, to have it. But 88 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: if if it's something where he's tight ends or you know, 89 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: they've come in they haven't had really good health and 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, boom, something clicks. Then all 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like, oh, I see he's the 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: availability part. Oh look and bar he's making more plays 93 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: out here. So yeah, you're right, and I'm the I'm 94 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: like the guy that's driving the Luke's schoon Maker band 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: club wagon thing because coming out of Michigan, I thought 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: he was a hell of a football player, you know, 97 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: and they were. Michigan was physical running the football and 98 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: Luke schoon Maker was a big part of that. We 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: just unfortunately haven't seen that here. 100 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, talking about a rookie who was having a good 101 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 6: camp that then found himself out of practice. Tyler geet 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 6: and tell him what's going on with him? 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, dealing with an illness. He missed the weekend practices, 104 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: so that was Friday and Saturday. Would have to maybe 105 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: expect to get him back on the field today. But nevertheless, 106 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: just dealing with an illness. It's allowed Chu Maydoga and 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: Awesome Richards to pick up some reps now. Cheu Maydoga 108 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: has also also been battling with an injury that's kind 109 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: of kept him off and then back in. 110 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: He looks like that seems to be a little bit 111 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: of a problem. 112 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like a limited type issue. And if 113 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: you remember at camp last year he dealt with an 114 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: ankle issue that kind of kept him in and out 115 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: of camp as well. So it's been really valuable reps 116 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: for Awesome Richards, the second year, fifth round pick out 117 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: of North Carolina, And from what I can tell, he's 118 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: he's done well with those opportunities. 119 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Derek, you're gonna ask us all camp's observations. 120 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: Awesome Richards had an awesome day. Let's go the other day, 121 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: and you know, and he was thrown into the situation 122 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: of playing the left tackle spot. It also helps play 123 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: next to Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith can make you, you know, 124 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: make you look pretty good over there too. But I'll 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: say this, Awesome Richards, it was one of these guys 126 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: where you're kind of going into amp thinking about, Okay, 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: swing tackles, who are going to be the guys that 128 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: are the swing tackles, maybe playing some guard. Awesome Richards 129 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: has done that, but at left tackle. In that in 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: that practice, the blue white practice, I'll tell you what. 131 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: There was some oppressive work with him, you know, and 132 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: him and Kneelan going after each other, two guys. Kneelan's 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: trying to not find his way. I think he's gone 134 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: a good path and he was given Awesome Richards all 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: he can handle. But Awesome Richards was giving it right 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: back to him. So it was good work from those 137 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: two guys. 138 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 6: That's great, all right, Ryan Illinois? Where are we with him? 139 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Man? Practice squad? That's where we're out right now, you know. 140 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: And and it's unfortunate. 141 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 6: He's at a position that's pretty deep right now. 142 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: He's at a position. And the thing about it is, 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: you look at these cowboy wide receivers every day there's 144 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: somebody that makes a play. It's not just one or 145 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: two guys. It is they're finding, you know, with Durden 146 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: and guys like that. You know that, you know, I 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: was talking it was funny. I was talking with with 148 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Todd Archer this morning and he goes, what do you 149 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 2: know about Burnett? I said, number six? Because yeah, guy's 150 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: making place. So that that's the issue that you run 151 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: into when you're a young guy and you're you're a 152 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: rookie and you're as good looking of a physical as 153 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: a player as he looks. You're wanting to see him 154 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: out there catching balls from you know, from Rush and 155 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Lance and even Dak if he gets the opportunity. But 156 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: standing over there by us kind of looks like a 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: practice squad guy right now because you're not being a 158 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: part of what's going on on this field right behind us. 159 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ryan Flinoy dealing with an e issue that's been 160 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: keeping him out since before the pads even came on, 161 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: so he hasn't had an opportunity to even put the 162 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: pads on with the team yet. You'd have to hope 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: that he's able to get back on the field this 164 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: week in time for the preseason games because, yeah, Brian, 165 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: you mentioned these receivers that are really starting to emerge 166 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: here at camp. You also want to mention Tyring, Billy Johnson, 167 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: and Chilen Cropper, and there's gonna be probably only one 168 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: or two spots that those four or five guys will 169 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: be fighting for when it comes to a roster spot. 170 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: I think the one advantage, obviously the Flinoy would have 171 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: is the fact that he's a six round pick who, 172 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: depending on who you talk to, as far as NFL 173 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: scouts go, he had some hype coming out, would he 174 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: be able to survive a practice squad a practice squad waving? 175 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: And so I think that's probably the one thing you 176 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: would look at when it comes to Flinoy and maybe 177 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: the advantage that he has. But I truly think there's 178 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: not gonna be a sizeable gap between all of these receivers. Man, 179 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: it's just getting louder as it gets closer. 180 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: Hunt, welcome to training camp. 181 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: I think the sizeable gap comes in the preseason. That's 182 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: gonna be really when those reps really do count. The 183 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: preseason work will be really important at that receiver position. 184 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: One more name I have for you guys. 185 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 6: When do you, guys expect Trayvon Diggs to get fully 186 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 6: integrated into practice where he's being able to do everything. 187 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 6: Is that's something that you expect during camp? What do 188 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 6: you expect that really? Week one is really what you're targeting. 189 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 7: For the wrestling match, Well, he didn't really find you 190 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 7: just let Mike I do whatever. But after that, I 191 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 7: mean you would hope anytime soon if you see him 192 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 7: getting thrown on the floor, are impiked up by another 193 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 7: man who. 194 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't think. 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: Body slammed. 196 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 7: No, but I haven't heard any specific I don't know 197 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 7: if you guys. 198 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: Have probably has a better perspective of this, I think 199 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: from my perspective, Yeah, I'm with you, Derek as far 200 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: as getting him a nice ramp up period, nothing too competitive, 201 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: maybe until they get back to Frisco, uh, and then 202 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: work him back on the field in time for week one. 203 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. I talking to some 204 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: people that would uh working in that situation. They they're like, listen, no, 205 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: hurry here. They're getting really good work from their corners. 206 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: By the way, that's one of the if you if 207 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: you said, what are some of the things that you're 208 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: really excited about training camp? It's what these defensive backs 209 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: have been able to do and especially got like Carson 210 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: and you know Scott. I mean, those guys are getting 211 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: really good work. But right now I think it's more 212 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: about uh, they just want to make sure that he's 213 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: completely ready with the workouts and stuff like that. It 214 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: looked like some of the videos he sit before camp, Dad, 215 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Oh he's back. He's back. And I started talking to 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: people and it was like, we see those videos, but 217 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: we're still a little bit ways to go. So I 218 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: think they're gonna be very cautiously optimistic to get him 219 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: on the field. I think the time when we get 220 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: back to Frisco would be pretty much. 221 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: Where you're at. 222 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 6: And quite frankly, he's not gonna play during the preseason, 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: So just ramp him up as you need to get 224 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 6: him ready for a week one is the way I 225 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 6: look at it. All Right, we're gonna take our first 226 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 6: break when we come back. We're gonna get some practice 227 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 6: and notes from you guys. 228 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: Brian. 229 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 6: I actually saw an interesting tweet you had yesterday. I'm 230 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 6: gonna throw at you. 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And 303 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: today let's talk a little bit about some let's get 304 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: some practice updates. 305 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: I want to start first. 306 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 6: O'Brien, you had something interesting you said on Twitter that 307 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 6: thought about practices. 308 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: Here was what you tweeted. 309 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: You said, Mick McCarthy setting up practice the way he 310 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 6: has is making them more mentally tough. 311 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 11: Uh. 312 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 6: This was a marathon on Saturday. Tell me what you 313 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 6: meant by that. Explain that a little bit. 314 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when there's been some times in past administrations. 315 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: You know, I remember the Jason Garrett administration. There were 316 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: practices where it seemed like it would go on and 317 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: on and on and on, and you'd get the work 318 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: and on and you could really get something out of 319 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: the practice. You can see the mental the toughness the 320 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: players having to fight through that practice he had on Saturday. 321 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: It was about thirty minutes too long. Yeah it was long, 322 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: you know what. But he tested his team. He tested 323 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: his young guys there at the end, and I think 324 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: overall just not this practice with Mike, but we've seen 325 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: when they go individual, then they turn around, they immediately 326 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: go into whether maybe it's a mojo moment on the 327 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: goal line, we're running two point plays. It's competitive. You know. 328 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: He's trying to do things nine on seven period where 329 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: immediately get into the running game one on one, immediately 330 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: get into that the period they had where they close out, 331 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: walk out, you know, the goal line period, get the 332 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: defense points first stop, give the offense of course touchdowns 333 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: that they score. He's really trying to find ways to 334 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: get his team more mentally tough and to fight through things. 335 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: You know, people will tell you though, with Mike McCarthy, 336 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: maybe the first several years was Okay, we're gonna kind 337 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: of go ease in the pract and we're gonna do this, 338 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: so we're gonna, you know, we're gonna take our time. 339 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: Every and the players will tell you that Mike McCarthy's 340 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: a great guy, but for he really cares about us, 341 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: our bodies and how we're practicing and stuff. But I 342 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: get a little bit more sense, and maybe it's because 343 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: of the situation with everybody overall. It's like, Okay, I've 344 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: tried it this way, maybe I need to think about 345 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: it this way. And I'm not saying he's doing the 346 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson Austin, Oklahoma drills out here, but you are 347 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: getting competitive practices where there's a lot more competition than 348 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: what we've seen the last several years from him. I 349 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: really really like what I'm what I'm seeing as far 350 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: as the way he's setting up these practices. 351 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 7: But also it's kind of ramping up, like he has 352 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 7: to be like, hey, let me just throw you to 353 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 7: the deep end of the waters. It's been like a 354 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 7: slowly growing progress. 355 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: Well, you're seeing like the reason why guys like Awesome Richardson, 356 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Thomas the Guard and others and or you could see 357 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: these guys niel and you see them getting work and 358 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: see them getting better. Is because in the receivers the time, whoever, 359 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: guys are getting opportunities to compete. You know, Yes, we 360 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: have the mock game, which if you want to take 361 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: a nap is great. You know you could take an 362 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: It's it's an easy way to recover. But you're you're 363 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: able to talk about these guys and write about these 364 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: guys in a way because you are having more competition 365 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: at positions. It's like, Okay, if we're going to if 366 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna cut this team, let's know about this team. 367 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: And I think they're doing a really good job of 368 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: making these players work through longer practices but also practices 369 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: that tax them physically more than what we've seen. 370 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: In the past. Yeah, it's an emphasis on the youth too, 371 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: whenever you factor all of that in, just because of 372 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: the bodies that have been available, the bodies that are 373 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: here at training camp in general, I think having those 374 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: opportunities for the young guys on the team, especially going 375 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: into the preseason, that's gonna be huge. 376 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna go down the line. 377 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 6: We want to get some practice observations. Give me a 378 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 6: player group moment, something that stood out to you in 379 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 6: practice over the last couple practices. Let's start with Unick. 380 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I must up in front of the line here, 381 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: Kayln Carson. As far as the rookie class goes, I 382 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: would have to say he's been the most impressive so far. 383 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: You talk about physicality and the entire Yeah, and that's 384 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: our rookie class. He's been the most impressive as far 385 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: as you know, factoring in draft value and how he's 386 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: come in and approached the opportunity that's in front of him. 387 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we're looking up again. It's before the preseason, 388 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: so there's still some time for some things to shake out. 389 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: But he's the c before in my book, behind the 390 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: three starters. He's a guy that I think could play 391 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: inside or outside. I think he's a guy that you 392 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: probably want on the boundary a little bit more just 393 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: because of his physicality, his ability to step up in 394 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: the run game on the outside too. But man, I 395 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: love his physicality. Sometimes a little bit too physical out here. 396 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: There was there was a play I think it was 397 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: on Friday where Dak Prescott was kind of scrambling out 398 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: and just trying to get out of bounds, and Kaylen 399 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: had kind of grabbed his shoulder pad a little bit 400 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: and kind of torked him back a little bit, and 401 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: Dak looked back at him like, hey, hands off the merchandise, 402 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: like you know, keep your keep your keep your hands 403 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: for yourself. And it was kind of a funny moment 404 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: here on the sideline. But at Kaylin Carson's been great. 405 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: Anytime that there's a ball in front of him, he's 406 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: going to attack it. It doesn't matter who's in front 407 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: of him. He's done a really good job so far. 408 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: He's been the most impressive rookie in my eyes right now. 409 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 6: If you had to compare Na Sean Wright to Kaylin Carson, 410 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 6: where would you put the two. 411 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kaylen moves a lot better. Kaylen is 412 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: always in the right spot a little bit better. I 413 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: think with Nashan, it's just a sense of, you know, 414 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: there's sometimes a little bit too much separation in those 415 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: short to intermediate routes, and unfortunately that's what you get 416 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: whenever you do have a corner that has that kind 417 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 3: of length in that kind of frame. I mean, he's 418 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: a six foot four corner, which really works in certain 419 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: instances and especially in zone coverage. If this was a 420 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 3: zone coverage type defense, it was built to be this 421 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: man type team, this physical type team, and I think 422 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: sometimes it just doesn't work to Nashawn Wright's favor. But 423 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: I have Carson above right. If I was stacking the 424 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: depth chart right now on August. 425 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 7: Fifth, ye, well, Mine, it's two starters, so everybody knows these. 426 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 7: Brandon Cooks is one of them. I think it's worth 427 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 7: mentioning him. He's had such a good camp from the 428 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 7: moment he got here, same as last year. My only 429 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 7: concern is, Okay, are they really gonna utilize him this 430 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 7: year more than they did last year. The second guy 431 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 7: that I think it's worth mentioning as well, and I've 432 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 7: been wanting to talk about him is Micah Parsons. I mean, 433 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 7: he started to ramp things up and just make his 434 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 7: presence known on the field, and I wanted to mention this. 435 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 7: I know some people are not buying it the whole act, 436 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 7: but to me, I like when people. I like to 437 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 7: give people the chance to show change and growth and 438 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 7: off the field. I think he's starting to make that 439 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 7: change where he's growing, He's being more vocal in a 440 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 7: nice way. He's portraying and carrying himself as a better teammate, 441 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 7: just more friendly around people. I've seen several interactions just 442 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 7: off the field when they you know, family members, starts 443 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: getting getting on the field. I've seen him have interactions 444 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 7: with Stephen Jones where he's just extremely nice and just 445 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 7: relatable in a way. And the way he talks on 446 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 7: the podium as well. So again, I know attitude has 447 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 7: been a topic that we talked a lot about during 448 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 7: the off season with Micah Parsons, and I think whether 449 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 7: or not it is fake to me, I find some 450 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 7: of those interactions very genuine in my perspective. So right now, 451 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 7: it's just a great sign for this moment of the 452 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: year to head into the season with the Micah Parsons 453 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 7: that is just portraying positive energy and also being a 454 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 7: badass on the field. 455 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: You know, you always ask these questions and I'm never 456 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: gonna give you the answer you exactly want to hear. 457 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: Give me Mike Zimmer for the coach. Okay, all right, 458 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: he's making it hell on these quarterbacks. Yeah, the way 459 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: that these secondary the linebackers are disguising coverages, the way 460 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: he's moving Parsons around the way that he's he's making 461 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: it tough on these quarterbacks. The way the quarterbacks are 462 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 2: having to respond. We haven't seen this nothing against dan Quinn. 463 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: More static, more stationary. But you don't see the disguise 464 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: with Mike. You see the disguise you see you see 465 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: Blitzer's home free on rush lea foul against the Ones. 466 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Mike shows double a gap Leah 467 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: foul's home bus maybe, but how did he get to 468 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: the situation where he got lea foul free? By the 469 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: way he showed, like he made the offensive line have 470 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: to adjust to something else he was showing, and then 471 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: he ran a guy home free. Now, my player, Hunter 472 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: Lipkey has shown a lot in this camp to me 473 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: so far. Talk to him if you want to talk 474 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: about guys and we and we love to talk about 475 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: the word consistency. You love that word. If you talk 476 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: about a guy that's had to practice a good practice 477 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: really every single day. To me, it's Hunter Lipkey. I 478 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: watched him the other day. There was a scramble drill 479 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: with Trey lance Ball comes kind of fluttering out there 480 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: on a you know, Hunter Lipkey's twenty five yards down 481 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: the field, low adjusting scooping catch off the ground. Next play, 482 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: he's coming in motion blocking. Next day, next play they're 483 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: throwing him the football. They've kind of figured some things 484 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: out for Hunter Lipkey, and I think the way that 485 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: they figured things out, if you want to start talking 486 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: about the running back situation, you could you could kind 487 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: of throw out that you could kind of just talk 488 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: about I'm talking about Hunter Lipkey as far as the 489 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: guy that's shown the most consistency out here and all 490 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: the things they're asking him to do. 491 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: And do you think kind of in the running back situation, 492 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: you look at the dynamics of that room, Hunter Lippi's 493 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: kind of on an island by himself. Yes, he's a 494 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: lead blocker. He does what no other running back in 495 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: that room can do, I mean, a true fullback role. 496 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: And I think he's got a safe roster. 497 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, two minute running back in the game as a 498 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: blocker and then there's a catcher. You know, those are 499 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: the types of things that you absolutely they're going to 500 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: find roles for him, much like it is like with Terpin. 501 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: You know, let's put him in the backfield, let's throw 502 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: him the ball, Let's hand him the ball. You know, 503 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: those are the kinds of things that I really like. 504 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if the starting running 505 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: back is in this field right now practicing, but I 506 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: do know they've got a weapon in a full back, 507 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: h back, whatever tight end, whatever position. They might keep 508 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: one less tight end knowing what they have with with 509 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: Hunter Lipky and his ability to play as a wing 510 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: or maybe even play a little in line for in 511 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: line next to the tackle there. 512 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 6: Which even gets more interesting when you start thinking about 513 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 6: tight end being one of the deepest positions they've got 514 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 6: on his team and now you got a guy that 515 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: might alter that even and say, like that's where we 516 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 6: start getting back to that original conversational schoolmaker, like, man, 517 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 6: you gotta get out there. You got to got a 518 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 6: way to get out there, because not being out there 519 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 6: is a hard thing when you're talking about cutting this 520 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 6: team down and knowing that you got a bunch of 521 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: tight ends that you really love, and you got now 522 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 6: a fullback. 523 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: That you really love. Hunter. 524 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 7: He got a chance to talk to the media, and great, 525 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 7: he did a great job. He everything he said. But 526 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 7: I just wanted to say this because you're not welcome 527 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 7: to the show. And last week got to make some fun. 528 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: Of you Nick. 529 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 7: Talking to the media saying everything. You know, he has 530 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: a serious face, very professional, and I wish you guys 531 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 7: could have seen. I mean, we stopped a few photos, 532 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 7: but Nick is just standing there. His face is just 533 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 7: like it's like. 534 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: You remember Proud Brian both playbourn You remember that, I 535 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: remember Proud can't Yeah. 536 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: Nick did his Proud Brian face, just washing those they 537 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 7: don't know happen. 538 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: But those don't know. 539 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 6: Nick has been like one of the biggest Hunter lip 540 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 6: keeper up, like you've been all over the Hunter lip 541 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 6: from the fan club since he got here. And so 542 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: for you right now, you're just like, yeah, give me more. 543 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 7: On his face, like, oh yeah, let's go. 544 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: If you hadn't know what I was thinking when Clayborne 545 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: walked past me and had that interception that sealed the game, Yeah, 546 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: in my mind, I go, it's about and time. That's 547 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: what I was thinking. So it wasn't really Proud, it 548 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: was I was looking like, bro, it's about time. 549 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 6: All right, you remember gonna do we gonna take our 550 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 6: final break when we come back. We're gonna talk about 551 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 6: this receiver position you guys have alluded to it. 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I think it is a position that 613 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 6: most would consider who have been out here practice to 614 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 6: be probably the most the most competitive group from the 615 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 6: standpoint of going deep into that roster of guys who 616 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 6: were showing and as you said Brian earlier, making plays. 617 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 6: Every single day you see different guys stepping up and 618 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 6: making plays. Let's start first with two guys. I think 619 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 6: that coming into camp we all were keeping an eye 620 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 6: on from the standpoint of who's going to be your 621 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 6: third wide receiver. I call it the battle of the Jalens. 622 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 6: You got Jalen Tolbert, you got Jalen Brooks. Tell me 623 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 6: how you think that's been playing out so far here 624 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 6: through the first week and a half of practice. 625 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of funny we were talking about, you know, 626 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: coming into camp, who could probably be that wide receiver three. 627 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot more opportunities on the table 628 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: with Ceedee Lamb holding out and the Jalen's are the 629 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: first two guys you look at, and I think we 630 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: look up a week and a half, almost two weeks 631 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: in the camp, you could say three A and three B. 632 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: When it comes to those guys, I give the edge 633 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: to Tolbert just because I think he's been a lot 634 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: more consistent. You see the offseason work that he's put 635 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: in with Dak Prescott translating onto the field. And not 636 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: to say that Jalen Brooks hasn't been phenomenal too. He's 637 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: got some of the strongest hands out here for any player. 638 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: When you put the ball in his vicinity, nine times 639 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: out of ten he's bringing it down. That's a pretty 640 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: good clip. And he's been trusted by all three quarterbacks 641 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: in different parts of two minute drills, mojo moments, goal 642 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: line situations. So both of these guys have really stood out, 643 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: but the edge goes to Tolbert for me, Yeah. 644 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 7: I would say the same thing. I mean, they're very, 645 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 7: very close, and I'm a huge fan of Brooks. I've 646 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 7: always really liked him since last year. I think he 647 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 7: showed moments as well during last year. But it is 648 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 7: very close. Jail in Tolbert. I think he's also been 649 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 7: getting a lot, like slightly more opportunities than Brooks, so 650 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 7: that gives him an advantage as well. You talk about 651 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 7: that off season work that he's done, it's very evident 652 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 7: that he's been working and has a really good relationship 653 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 7: with Dak Prescott, so I think it's starting to show 654 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: more on the field. Great job by him for putting 655 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 7: in the work. I know we killed him that first 656 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: year and he wasn't really doing much, Like, oh man, 657 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 7: is this one of those buzz type of picks. And 658 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 7: he's starting to show a lot of things now. But 659 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 7: here's my thing. When and I'm sure we're gonna go 660 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 7: down the line of the other guys in the depth 661 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 7: chart here, it's just like every year, I feel like 662 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 7: training camp, it is a time where wide receivers do 663 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 7: stand out. So how do you start kind of putting 664 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 7: some different glasses on to try to filter out the 665 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 7: things that you see now, but then you stop seeing later, 666 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 7: So to me, I'm still trying to figure that part out. 667 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this receiving Corps as a whole has done a 668 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: really good job of making the front office have to 669 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: think about how many receivers are they gonna really carry 670 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: and if it turns into we can't keep them all, 671 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: then now you turn into surplus. And a lot of 672 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 2: times in the league when you start to say, okay, 673 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: we're short in this position, but we've got surplus at 674 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: receiver maybe somebody's following us, maybe somebody's watching preseason games 675 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: and they're saying, Okay, Dallas has got an extra receiver. 676 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: That's probably it might be six or seven on their chart, 677 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: but they could be a four or five on our chart. 678 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: So that's where, all of a sudden, when you have 679 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: those competitive periods, that all of a sudden it's like, well, 680 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: Dallas might have a surplus in this position. You get 681 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: Lamb back, and the next thing you know, everybody goes 682 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: down a notch and you got to kind of figure 683 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: that out. I'll say this about Tolbert, I wasn't sure 684 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: he had the mental toughness to do this. I really didn't. 685 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: I thought that Brooks. Brooks is a mentally tough guy. Tolbert, 686 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: when you watch him practice, his uniform gets dirty out here. 687 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: He's diving for balls, he's got dirt stains, grass stains. 688 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: He's trying his best to be competitive. He's running a 689 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: lot of routes, he's getting open, he's finishing plays. Those 690 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: are all things that when we were looking at Tolbert 691 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: and talking about what can he do, he's showing that 692 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: to you right now. I was worried that he wasn't 693 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: going to be as tough as Brooks when it came 694 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: to the stomach to have to do this and do 695 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: the dirty work and able to solidify that spot. But 696 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: he's done a nice shop so far. 697 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: When you look at these receivers. One of the things 698 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 6: that I think pops out to me is, and I said, 699 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 6: coming into camp, I really wanted the Cowboys to consider 700 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 6: Cavante Turpin really filling in a lot more, maybe even 701 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 6: being that wide receiver Thie three. I think one of 702 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 6: the challenges there is he's really pretty much a slot guy. 703 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 6: You're not gonna put him on the boundary very much. 704 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 6: And I wonder you guys tell me, do you think 705 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 6: that that's really the reason why he won't necessarily be 706 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 6: the guy that gets that many reps from the standpoint 707 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 6: of being the third type wide receiver because they really 708 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 6: can't move them around n CD Lamb plays very well 709 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 6: out of the slot. You can do the same thing 710 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 6: with Cooks. It just isn't enough opportunity for him as 711 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 6: in the slot. 712 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy that maybe he might be their best 713 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: running back. You know, when you start to talk about 714 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: tossing him the ball, handing him the ball there is 715 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: some explosiveness out of the backfield with him. What's surprising 716 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: about Turpin is how well he gets open and tight 717 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: red zee and you're thinking, little guy get lost kind 718 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: of a thing, but no, he knows how to work 719 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: the end zone when the quarterback's in trouble. He knows 720 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: how to move to find space. He's got that awareness. 721 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: Do you play him on the outside in the field. 722 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: Probably not, But you know there's times where he caught 723 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: a slant the other day from Dak and I was 724 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: like going, wow, okay on the outside. The shortest receiver 725 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: you got running an inside slant route with tight coverage 726 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: comes up with the play. So there's times where he 727 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: does show that ability to play on the outside. But 728 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: he'll surprise you with how well he plays in the 729 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: red zone. I think that's impressive thing that he does 730 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: as well. 731 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the point as far as maybe there 732 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: is a duplication in the receiving core, as far as 733 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: what he could do versus maybe what Ceedee Lamb could do. 734 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: But if you isolate Cavante Turpin speed with the ball 735 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: in his hands, things are gonna happen. And I think 736 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: if they can find a way to consistently do that 737 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: in this offense, then he's gonna find some success. I mean, 738 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 3: we saw it points last year in a couple of games. 739 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: The San Francisco game really stands out in the first half. Now, 740 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: while that one drive did not mean a whole lot, 741 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: that touchdown tribe that did happen in the first half, 742 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin was huge on that drive. Then he ended 743 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: up scoring on the wheel route. I believe it was 744 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: on the right side, over the shoulder, tracked in the ball, 745 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: and then you factor in what he could do out 746 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 3: of the backfield. As long as you get the ball 747 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: in Cavante Turpin's hands, I think things are gonna happen. 748 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 3: Second year, going into Mike McCarthy's offense, it's allowing Turpin 749 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: to really digest and let this entire offensive system soak in. 750 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have more success than he had 751 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: last year. 752 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 7: And I love everything that he's been doing so far. 753 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 7: And we know he's fast, We've known this, we know 754 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 7: he has the speed. 755 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: But to me, the. 756 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 7: Difference this right now is that he has grown as 757 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 7: far as like anticipation. He can anticipate things so much better. 758 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 7: So mentally, what he's seen on the field, I've I've 759 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 7: seen that be completely different than last year. Sometimes you 760 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 7: would see him running and then he gets lost. It's like, okay, 761 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 7: he does a little dance. Would remind me of what 762 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 7: was his name, Whitehead Wicky Whitehead? 763 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 3: Wow, I just remember the red dreads at some point. 764 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 7: Anyways, a point I always remember him because he was 765 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 7: he was fast, but he would always dance around and 766 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 7: at the end of the day, you didn't gain much. 767 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 7: He's just running on the same spoty kind of. Anyways, 768 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 7: the point is with Cavante, he's he's what his vision 769 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 7: has improved so much, and I think he can be 770 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 7: a really, really good weapon that the Cowboys can truly 771 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 7: start utilizing even more this season. 772 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 6: All Right, So when we look at the depth of 773 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 6: the wide receiver position, I think we all probably agree 774 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 6: that you got obviously your top two guys in CD 775 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 6: and Cooks, You've got Cavante Turpin who will be on 776 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 6: this team, and then we all seem to love what 777 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 6: we're seeing from Jalen Tobert and Jalen Brooks. The question is, 778 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 6: if they're gonna go six. 779 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: Who's that final spot. 780 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna give you four names I want you 781 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 6: guys to rank these four guys based on what you've 782 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 6: seen so far in camp Tyron, Billy Johnson, Deontay Burnett, 783 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 6: who just got here but has been very, very very impressive, 784 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 6: Jalen Cropper, and David Durden. 785 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: I'll start there. I'll just based on what we've seen 786 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: out here. I'll go Tyron, Billy Johnson, Jalen Cropper, Burnette, 787 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: and then Durden for me, Billy Johnson, I mean that speed, 788 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 3: the veteran experience. You're kind of seeing that translate now. 789 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 3: We were able to talk to him the media after 790 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 3: practice on Friday, and he said that this is the 791 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: first time in his career he's been able to have 792 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: the same offense two years in a row, and so 793 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: you see that confidence kind of coming out here, and 794 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: he's been able to really show that he's been trusted 795 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: by Dak Cooper, Rush Trey Lance. He didn't have the 796 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 3: best Blue and White practice on Saturday, but he's really 797 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: been stacking days out here. But at the end of 798 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: the day, like leg I've said, and like Ambar said earlier, 799 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: there's always a receiver out here that comes out and 800 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: shows out will it translates to the preseason field. That's 801 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 3: gonna be the biggest thing. I think Jalen Cropper is 802 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: coming for Tyron. Billy Johnson. I mean, he had two 803 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: touchdowns and two minute drills on Saturday year in the 804 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: Blue White practice. In my eyes, I think he had 805 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: the best practice of any receiver at camp on Saturday. 806 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: So he's coming right there. And I love what I've 807 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: seen from Burnett and Dirten as well. 808 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 7: I was gonna put Cropper ahead mainly because but here's 809 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 7: the reason why. The reason to me is like, you're 810 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 7: only as good as, in my eyes, as the last 811 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 7: thing that you showed. So he's the most recent one 812 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 7: that has been making place, and to me, that's that's 813 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 7: what stays on your mind. You can easily forget what 814 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 7: happened a week ago. So to me, that's why he's 815 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 7: in the lead right now at the moment. 816 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: Cropper. 817 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 7: Then I would go Billy Johnson. He's shown a lot 818 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 7: of good things that I like. I like his speed too, 819 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 7: He's a quick guy on his feet. And then I 820 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 7: would go with Burnett and then Dirt and those two guys, 821 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 7: to me, though they're kind of right there, I don't 822 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 7: it's whoever makes the last play, and that's who takes 823 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 7: a spot for me. They're they're not that much different 824 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 7: from what I've seen so far. 825 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: It's not a plug Vanilla Shu guy, but I'll give 826 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: a plug to Anilla'shue guy. Racy McMath has shown some 827 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: he's got size, and I know he's not part of 828 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 2: the four that we're talking about. I do feel like 829 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: that Cropper is closer to Billy Johnson to that point 830 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: where you know if you said, Okay, now the competition, 831 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 2: and I mentioned about being in the personnel trailer, and 832 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: then you look at the tags on the board and 833 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, can we keep six receivers? Can we 834 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: afford to do this? This thing might come down to 835 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: special teams in the preseason, believe it or not. So 836 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: that's where I kind of like focus sin. But I 837 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: really do like what I've seen with Cropper and his 838 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: ability to get open, secure the football and make some 839 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: plays for you. 840 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 6: The one thing I will point out, and I've already 841 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 6: mentioned it a little bit, but I want to I 842 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 6: can't stress it enough. One of the things I love 843 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 6: that I've seen over the last couple of days from 844 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 6: Deontay Burnett is the fact that he's a guy, that 845 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 6: he's not a big guy, but what you keep seeing 846 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 6: from over and over again, it's it's interesting. You see 847 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 6: a play and you'll see a ball get thrown and 848 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 6: you'll see the receiver covered and you're like, surely that's 849 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 6: gonna be broken up, right, But somehow he comes up 850 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 6: with the ball. It's like everything that gets to him 851 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 6: sticks to him, and even in traffic. And again, he's 852 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 6: not a big guy. He's a little guy guy, but 853 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 6: he has the ability whenever the ball gets thrown his way, 854 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 6: if it's within catching radius, he seems to catch it. 855 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 6: He seems to come down with it. 856 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: And I really like that. 857 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 6: And I think if he would have been here and 858 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 6: been doing all of that that he's done in the 859 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 6: last couple of days since the beginning of camp, I 860 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 6: do think we'd be talking about him a little bit more. 861 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 6: And that's why I would say, keep an eye on 862 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 6: this guy. If he keeps developing like that, and certainly 863 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 6: if he gets into the preseason and does what he's 864 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 6: been doing out here, I think that's going to be impressive. 865 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: There's only been one guy in this receiver dut Chart, 866 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: and I'd love for you all to guests here that 867 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: I have not seen drop a pass while we've been 868 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 3: here at training camp. Probably durd d I have seen one. 869 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 3: I have seen one from Durden. 870 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: It seems like every time they throw him the ball. 871 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: He does have some strong hands. Yeah, I have to 872 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 3: give it to him because I think a lot of 873 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 3: people wrote him off after that injury and it was like, Okay, 874 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: once he heals up, he'll be out of here. But 875 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: they've even him another training camp opportunity. He's run with it. 876 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: But no, that's that's not the game Cam Johnson. 877 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 3: It's Cam Johnson. It's he has some strong hands. And 878 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 3: it's unfortunate because he's this undrafted free agent, came out 879 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: of a Big ten program that didn't have a lot 880 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: of offensive production last year, so there's not a lot 881 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: of buzz around his name. But man, he's got some 882 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 3: strong hands. He's got a little bit of a route tree. 883 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: It's not really downfield, it's more short to intermediate. But 884 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: he's been really trusted in some situations with the second 885 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: and thirteen. That's a guy to keep an eye on 886 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 3: in the preseason. 887 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 6: Do you think the Cowboys This is really might be 888 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 6: a weird question, but I think the Cowboys are getting 889 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 6: more out of CD not being here because all these 890 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 6: guys are getting more opportunities, or would you get more 891 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 6: if CD was here and being able to create that 892 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 6: connection or not create continue that connection he has with that. 893 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: I think as a group it with CD not here, Yeah, 894 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 2: you're getting it. But I think if CD was here, 895 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: we'd still see it be a strong group. We'd probably 896 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: be talking about this group like we talk about the linebackers. No, 897 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: it's like, boy, it's a good room, you know. Man, 898 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: These young guys are making place every day. Somebody that 899 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 2: we mentioned in this in this segment we just did, 900 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 2: somebody makes a play. It might be one play, it 901 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 2: might be two plays, it might be but they they're 902 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: showing up and the fall off has not been big. 903 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: Sometimes there's fall off, but not with this group right now. 904 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think uh, I mean, yeah, obviously you're gonna 905 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 7: take advantage of those extra reps though you're gonna get 906 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 7: without CD being here. But at the same time, I 907 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 7: mean it glues the group. He he what do you 908 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 7: say coming? 909 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: People keep passing it? 910 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 7: Do you guys? Oh my goodness, we keep We thought 911 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 7: it was gonna happen this this past week and they 912 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 7: still has not. But I think, if anything, him not 913 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 7: being here hurts the group more, and I hope they 914 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 7: can figure out very quickly because we and Derek, we 915 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 7: were talking about it a little bit uh off off 916 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 7: the show off, but we tend to see sometimes. To 917 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 7: me what I've seen from situations like that, it tends 918 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 7: to it's gonna take a few games. And you can 919 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 7: see that at the beginning of the season. Can you 920 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 7: afford to have a few games where it kind of 921 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 7: takes him a while to get back on track Because 922 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 7: one thing is practicing on the field in Dack's backyard 923 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 7: and hanging out together. Another thing is a real football game, 924 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 7: when the lights come on, when real football is happening, 925 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 7: and when you're dealing with so many other variants happening. 926 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 7: So anyways, to answer your question, I think it hurts 927 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 7: more him not being here. 928 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: I was talking about with my amazing roommate here at 929 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: camp yesterday. It was like, so, if CD like shows 930 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 3: up tomorrow, do you think he would be ready in 931 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 3: time for the Rams practice on Thursday? And I was like, yeah, 932 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: probably not. Like whenever he does get here, there's still 933 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 3: gonna be a ramp up period, And so this staff 934 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 3: is very intentional about whenever guys arrive and they've been 935 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: away from the team for a little bit, get them 936 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 3: back integrated, make it slow so that they're not rushing anything, 937 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 3: both with the process and with their body. So yeah, 938 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 3: even if if cdee Lamb did show up today or tomorrow, 939 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 3: we're probably not seeing him in full, full pads and 940 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 3: full go until probably next week's that's a that's a 941 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 3: scenario that's not gonna happen anyway. 942 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that kind of an observation out real 943 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: quick though. We talk about these guys coming off injuries, 944 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: are you seeing John Stevens the same way as you 945 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,919 Speaker 2: saw him last year? 946 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating because. 947 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: I know I haven't. Yeah, he's still there's still positive 948 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: plays about it, but I don't see the splash or 949 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: the big plays that and maybe that coming off that 950 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 2: knee injury. I mean, that's something we always worry about, 951 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 2: you know, how long before these guys. You know, he's 952 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: fighting for he's fighting for a spot. But man, he 953 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 2: was so good this time last year. But I kind 954 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: of feel like that I've seen him just not as 955 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: much as I've seen some others. 956 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 3: He's a different player this time because he has the 957 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: eleven twelve pounds added. Yeah, he's learning how to marry 958 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 3: that new size that he has with his ability. Also 959 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 3: trying to understand like what where he fits as an 960 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: inline guy in this offense. I think there's a lot 961 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 3: of learning and understanding that he's soaked up in his 962 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: brain over the course of last year, and now he's 963 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 3: trying to apply it all at once on the field. 964 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: I say, give him a couple of weeks just to 965 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 3: kind of apply all that. 966 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 2: I was just worried about that knee injury thing that 967 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 2: we always like, oh yeah they're back, Yeah, everything's great, 968 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 2: and then it's week six that all, oh wow, he 969 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 2: looks like he's ready to play football. 970 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 3: I will say he has suffered from the drops he's 971 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: out here. 972 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: That's he's had that you mentioned catches and drops. That's 973 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 2: kind of what I was noticing too. 974 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 6: All right, appreciate you guys. Jonas will be back on 975 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 6: I'm sorry on Wednesday. We'll be back on Wednesday. On 976 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 6: Wednesday after Nobu, we will be here. 977 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 7: Can you host him? I'm it's not that serious, Derek. 978 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,479 Speaker 7: You can jump on the show and just ask are. 979 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 6: You saying you're gonna host. 980 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 7: This is what you do? 981 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: You want to host. I think it's a good idea. 982 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 2: I like to give opportunities. 983 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 7: If you got drunk, you don't even get that, I 984 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 7: really do. 985 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: All right, But we'll be back Wednesday. 986 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 6: We may be a shell of ourselves, but we'll be 987 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 6: back Wednesday. Until the in for Brian Rodus, Amber Garcia 988 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 6: and Nick Harris. I'm Derek Eilton. This has been The 989 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 6: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 990 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 991 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.