Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened?
Speaker 2: Back to return at Spurlock. Michael Spurlock of the chim
Speaker 2: He's to the twenty. He's of the twenty five. P
Speaker 2: thirty come the forty yard life, we could see history.
Speaker 3: Fifty forty, come a thirty yard right. Michael run, Michael run,
Speaker 3: Michael run.
Speaker 1: Touchdown, Tampa Bay. There you go, and.
Speaker 2: That shot gunsence we receivers left. Here's the Stampa. The
Speaker 2: glitcher has picked up Brady Unity.
Speaker 1: Caught ball EPs.
Speaker 3: He has the record at the eleven yard line.
Speaker 2: Mike Evans becomes the first NFL player in LEA history
Speaker 2: to record a thousand yards of more in this first
Speaker 2: seven seasons, and want to throw by Brady. Congratulations Mike Evans,
Speaker 2: who can forget again? I'm looking Gains up the head
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Speaker 1: Bucks thirty touchdown, Tampa Bay. Derek Books the.
Speaker 2: Most pariele player.
Speaker 1: In the National Football League.
Speaker 2: There it is Dot Daggers in where are you gonna
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Here's the snap.
Speaker 3: Mahomes running to his right. Lookout he may run my
Speaker 3: home director. Oh so now battle picked up of the box.
Speaker 1: I gotta beat the chief We're the champions.
Speaker 3: Of the world that we still have. I'm minute thirty
Speaker 3: three to go.
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 2: White bought a great second season.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: We're Casey Fox. All the Super Bowl champs. They can't
Speaker 2: stop the clock.
Speaker 1: We call them the Salty Dogs. Welcome everybody to the
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs Podcast, our second one. Yeah, preseason stuff, preseason.
Speaker 1: I'm Scott Smith, I'm Jeff Ryan, and we are the
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs. Yes we are.
Speaker 3: And had we not been in New Jersey and things
Speaker 3: shifting around, we would have done one up there, but
Speaker 3: it just got too crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there was reasons to be salty up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I was on a bus more than
Speaker 3: I really wanted to. I'm just saying, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Funny because the change of plans and we the Giants
Speaker 1: were gracious enough to let us do our second practice
Speaker 1: because we were going to do it on a high
Speaker 1: school field nearby. Their facility like ours is really nice
Speaker 1: and it was nice to them. Let's come out and use it.
Speaker 1: But it was a long bus ride, yes, longer than
Speaker 1: it would have been.
Speaker 3: Yes, So it's a bit of a giving you know.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a long bus ride when you can
Speaker 3: see Manhattan from the.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 3: It was a good week up there.
Speaker 1: You enjoy your week up there. I didn't do anything really.
Speaker 1: I spent when I wasn't working, I was in my
Speaker 1: hotel room time, read a book. This is really good.
Speaker 1: Podcasting like this is really exciting for people, but.
Speaker 3: You have to understand it when you're on the road
Speaker 3: and you're facing another I watched a Little League World Series.
Speaker 3: I did that also, I read a book.
Speaker 1: I was rooting for Tennessee because of the Southeast, for
Speaker 1: the Southeast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was very fortunate. I actually I
Speaker 3: actually had a fun Friday afternoon. I got to go
Speaker 3: play golf and had a real nice dinner. So, you know,
Speaker 3: through it all, it was great. Yes, it was very good.
Speaker 3: But I did like I did like the the practice
Speaker 3: with the Jets. I thought that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I think the Jet fans are so into it right now.
Speaker 3: I just hope they're not disappointed.
Speaker 1: Boy, I'll tell you what. They are excited. They love obviously,
Speaker 1: the love Aaron Rodgers. They love themselves, some Garrett Willes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean they anytime Garrett Wilson did anything,
Speaker 1: the crowd went crazy.
Speaker 3: And I loved the chance they were doing there there
Speaker 3: they were all in.
Speaker 1: It was it was a good and useful practice. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it had one bad moment. One of the two big
Speaker 1: pieces of news. Obviously the quarterback is the other thing
Speaker 1: that's sure about. But before that happened, Russell Gage non contact,
Speaker 1: didn't contact injury actually actually, according to Mike Evans, made
Speaker 1: a really nice catch on them play but just went down.
Speaker 1: Found out later it was a torn Peteller tendon. So
Speaker 1: his season is over and that is he is. You know,
Speaker 1: this was not an injury prone player we signed him.
Speaker 1: I think he missed four games in four years in Atlanta. Yep,
Speaker 1: he just had terrible lucks. Horrible. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the worst one. Of course, maybe the maybe the neck
Speaker 1: injury in the concussion in the playoffs was scarier, But
Speaker 1: this is the one that's having the most impact because
Speaker 1: he's missing the whole season. Yeah, such a shame.
Speaker 3: It really and and he really uh he had talked
Speaker 3: to us at training camp talking about how this was
Speaker 3: his year to reinvent himself, to be all in and
Speaker 3: then that happens.
Speaker 1: What I wonder about and obviously the worst of it
Speaker 1: here is is for Russell so everything else is less important.
Speaker 1: But what I wonder about is the domino effect here
Speaker 1: of not having him because Russell didn't start. He wasn't
Speaker 1: practicing when training kept started because he was overcoming a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. But once he got back going full speed
Speaker 1: and was doing team drills, he was definitely the third
Speaker 1: receiver with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin that they would
Speaker 1: come in together most of the time as a package,
Speaker 1: and often Russell Gage was in the slot. And now
Speaker 1: we've heard a lot since this new co offensive coaching
Speaker 1: staff got here that Chris Godwin, who's a beast in
Speaker 1: the slot, it's still going to play in the slot,
Speaker 1: but not as much because they want to do stuff
Speaker 1: with him on the outside. Sure where they think there's
Speaker 1: untapped potential or it's been tapped before, but not in
Speaker 1: recent years. So if Russell Gage was supposed to be
Speaker 1: the guy that's taken those slot snaps, who's going to
Speaker 1: be now? Is it possible they change their plans with
Speaker 1: Chris I that's I'm talking about a donal here. They
Speaker 1: this might force them to play Chris Godwin more in
Speaker 1: the slot. I'm kind of hoping not. Obviously, the receiver
Speaker 1: that stepped up the most amongst all the other candidates
Speaker 1: that you would think might get more playing time with
Speaker 1: Russell Gage Odds. Trey Palmer, I'm not sure he's a
Speaker 1: slot guy though, I think he's more of an outside
Speaker 1: take the top off the defense kind of go correct. Actually,
Speaker 1: there's a really good article. This is one of two
Speaker 1: times I'm gonna plug our colleague Brianna Dix. But on
Speaker 1: buccaneers dot Com there's a nice article with a lot
Speaker 1: of quotes from Brad Idzach, the wide receivers coach, on
Speaker 1: Trey Palmer, and I would I would suggest you read it.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's funny because Brad says he's the entertainer
Speaker 1: in the room. He's the guy that's joking they laugh.
Speaker 1: But he's also a really good student, like he's just
Speaker 1: he's really good at absorbing the playbook. And so Brad
Speaker 1: was also talking about how obviously speed is his best
Speaker 1: asset and he can win deep.
Speaker 3: I like what he said today after practice that when
Speaker 3: he sees the ball, that's always looking at is the
Speaker 3: ball doesn't care who's defending him.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. He have this his little phrase, his motto
Speaker 1: is like no name, no face. Yeah, it means he
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't even think about his covering, right, so,
Speaker 1: which I think first came about when he got past
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, who might be the best corner in the
Speaker 1: NFL in that Jets game. Now we're not here ripping
Speaker 1: on sast Gardens, a phenomenal player. They were in cover
Speaker 1: zero on that play. He had no safety help and
Speaker 1: and and trasers really fast, so bad play worked out well.
Speaker 1: But Brad Isaac was saying that what he's working with
Speaker 1: him on is making his first five or six steps
Speaker 1: of every route look the same. So because then you
Speaker 1: can do well. The first thing a cornerback has to
Speaker 1: worry about, which tray is him running right past it? Sure,
Speaker 1: so if you always look the same in your first
Speaker 1: five or six steps, they're always going to be worried
Speaker 1: about getting beat deep and they're gonna be on their heels.
Speaker 1: If you're giving away with some of your movements that
Speaker 1: this isn't going to be a deep rod, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a slant sh I'm sure, then they're more prepared
Speaker 1: to jump on that. So if he can make those
Speaker 1: first five or six steps look the same, his is
Speaker 1: actually useful even on like short routes. That's that's because
Speaker 1: it gets them on their heels and then you can
Speaker 1: run like a you know.
Speaker 3: Like a square in or some Yeah, that's a great tidbit,
Speaker 3: yea to be looking at that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that's the case for a
Speaker 1: lot of receivers. Sure, you don't want to give away
Speaker 1: all your intentions, because that's your advantage over the defender,
Speaker 1: is that you know where you're going and they don't.
Speaker 1: Right right there you go, unless it's an option route,
Speaker 1: which says you don't necessarily know where you're going until
Speaker 1: the last second. But I was I find options.
Speaker 3: So you corrected yourself right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying option ruts, you know what I mean. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get to the line and they release, and depending
Speaker 1: upon where the defender is, they might go in or out. Sure,
Speaker 1: And I've always found that fascinating because if you're if
Speaker 1: you're using option routes, which I think we are going
Speaker 1: to use in this defense because they did in the offense,
Speaker 1: because they did in Seattle and I saw him practicing
Speaker 1: them the other day. You and the quarterback have to
Speaker 1: make the same decision. You have to read it the
Speaker 1: same thing. Because that that guy is gonna break in
Speaker 1: and you're gonna throw and if he breaks out, you
Speaker 1: might be thrown it right to his safety. So I
Speaker 1: find them fascinating. I'm surprised that it seems so risky
Speaker 1: to me, and I know coaches are risk adverse.
Speaker 3: It's called it's called being on the same page, so
Speaker 3: to speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't think is necessarily.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. No, I'm looking forward. So I don't
Speaker 3: know who I was talking to.
Speaker 1: Yesterday that it was a long time ago. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: they were just basically saying, well that the offense very memorable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really because they were saying the offense
Speaker 3: looked really vanilla and blah blah blah. Of course it is,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's perfectly so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like, there's a reason for that. They'll
Speaker 1: say it before the game, unt say it's going to
Speaker 1: be a vanilla game.
Speaker 3: Play is the most basic plays there.
Speaker 1: Are as a very good example for this. It was
Speaker 1: something I wanted to touch on. I know that our
Speaker 1: running game doesn't look any better right now, but and
Speaker 1: hopefully will be. There's no guarantee there will be. It
Speaker 1: was the worse in the league, so I can't really
Speaker 1: go any worse last year, but don't judge it on
Speaker 1: what you've seen in the preseason. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: even running the basic plays we're gonna I haven't seen
Speaker 1: anything that look to me like mid zone or wide zone.
Speaker 1: It just looked like trap plays and duo.
Speaker 3: You know who I did like watching was Tucker did Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did like watching him.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, he's had some good runs. He obviously
Speaker 1: had that one he bounced to the outside and maybe
Speaker 1: that was his own play. I don't know, but a
Speaker 1: lot of them haven't been what I think is going
Speaker 1: to be the staple of our offense because there's no
Speaker 1: reason to put it on tape right now. They can
Speaker 1: practice it in practice. So I I'm not here to
Speaker 1: tell you I know that our running game is gonna
Speaker 1: be good. I think it can't hardly help would be better,
Speaker 1: But just telling you not to judge about what you've
Speaker 1: seen in these games. Maybe maybe we'll see a little
Speaker 1: bit in the third game when the starters played the
Speaker 1: first half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little, but not I don't think a lot,
Speaker 3: simply because you're ten days to Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Anyway. To get back to the point I had started
Speaker 1: with was with h Russell, gage out who's taking the
Speaker 1: snaps in the slot. Maybe Trey Palmer is a guy
Speaker 1: that can play in the slot. I don't really know.
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like he's that type of receiver. Is
Speaker 1: it Trade? Is it Devin Tompkins? Is it David Moore? Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, was See that's interesting because David Moore is as a.
Speaker 1: Veteran, the only one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other two are young ones.
Speaker 1: Well, everybody else is either first second player.
Speaker 3: And so you know, it's horrible to say, but it's
Speaker 3: always next man up, and you know, what something happens,
Speaker 3: you have to be ready. So it'll be fun to
Speaker 3: see who I just does step up.
Speaker 1: I wish I had a good feel for who will
Speaker 1: be getting snaps in the slot, and I really honestly
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who it is.
Speaker 3: That's something we're going to watch then on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on it, Okay, I'm gonna make it specifically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell Dave because Dave always Dave more. Yeah, tell Dave
Speaker 1: to look for that and then let me know because
Speaker 1: he's good at just instantly.
Speaker 3: See who's doing in the slot. Yeah, Okay, I mean
Speaker 3: I can you can you can also tell him when
Speaker 3: you see him when you come into your segment. But okay,
Speaker 3: I'll talk to him.
Speaker 1: So I what are we How many minutes are we
Speaker 1: into this podcast?
Speaker 3: Ten?
Speaker 1: And we have not? Well? First of two things, okay,
Speaker 1: I only have one fan question for our final segments
Speaker 1: to be brief, and I think it's partially because I
Speaker 1: keep forgetting to say at the top correct send us questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love your questions. Well, we usually answer all of them.
Speaker 1: Are close to all then sure, send it to Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. We love to
Speaker 1: hear from you. We love that's the third Segment's awesome
Speaker 1: where we answer these questions.
Speaker 3: That's my that's my favorite sec.
Speaker 1: Is it other than to the interview?
Speaker 3: Yeah, other than talking to the interview. And my least
Speaker 3: favorite one.
Speaker 1: Is this part, Yes, talking to me? So we also
Speaker 1: are going to have d Delaney on yes, who I'm
Speaker 1: going to surprise him. I have thought of a nickname
Speaker 1: for him. Don't you say anything, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I think it's good man.
Speaker 3: If it's coming from that, I.
Speaker 1: Think you could get a tattoo of it.
Speaker 3: You are a wordsmith, so it should be interesting.
Speaker 1: So and then finally, oh, I.
Speaker 3: Wanted to say something about make sure you send your
Speaker 3: questions in because if you don't, they're going to take
Speaker 3: that email address away from us because they're cleaning up
Speaker 3: all the emails that aren't being used.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's it's getting some Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: still get spams sometimes.
Speaker 3: Oh great, perfect, Maybe we could talk to them.
Speaker 1: So well, I also got an email. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to read it because it wasn't really a question, but
Speaker 1: do you remember we've had a question from a guy,
Speaker 1: a Bucks fan in Australia, Yes, who was in radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's a presenter.
Speaker 1: His name's Elliott Lovejoy and he's just he reached out
Speaker 1: because he's going to be in Tampa at the end
Speaker 1: of the season. Really he's going to get to see
Speaker 1: two games and just thought maybe he could come and
Speaker 1: check out the facility. I think we could probably work
Speaker 1: that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So finally we're like what fifteen minutes into this podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have not yet spoken about the fact that the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers have named a starting quarterback dead day.
Speaker 3: When did this happen?
Speaker 1: I this was what this was a fun professional moment
Speaker 1: for me. Right, because you were ready that. I was
Speaker 1: the first person who tured out because I had a
Speaker 1: feeling I had some inside intel that coach Bowls after
Speaker 1: practice yesterday was going to go to the podium and
Speaker 1: and now that Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Was the starting what time would that happen? Because he
Speaker 3: knew he was going to get the inevitable question of well,
Speaker 3: cry your name a starter. It's getting awful close to well.
Speaker 1: The funny thing was the way that he didn't. I
Speaker 1: thought he might just start the press converence by saying,
Speaker 1: before I take any questions, yes, no, no, So I
Speaker 1: think it was the second question, and it was worded understandably.
Speaker 1: It was worded like, I know you're not close to
Speaker 1: naming a starter.
Speaker 3: Yet, but is it neck and neck?
Speaker 1: Baker one. I had the the tweet with attached story yes,
Speaker 1: lined up, ready to go. So as soon as you
Speaker 1: said it, I put, I mean, I guess it's an
Speaker 1: X not a tweet. Yeah, I pushed go, So I
Speaker 1: know I was first.
Speaker 3: I had X open and I was waiting to see
Speaker 3: who would go first.
Speaker 1: I don't get the break news, and you did.
Speaker 3: You popped it. You were at least a minute ahead
Speaker 3: of everybody else. Yeah, that's because they all had and
Speaker 3: then the national guys they're they're like, there are a few, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're like four and five minutes behind.
Speaker 1: So Baker Mayfield, now I know that there are a
Speaker 1: lot I've already I've already heard it personally. I've heard
Speaker 1: it from several people that are out there saying, well, duh,
Speaker 1: of course, Baker, we all knew all along.
Speaker 3: That's not true.
Speaker 1: That is not how it played about.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: It was Kyle. Kyle did a nice job, and it
Speaker 1: was a real competition.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. And and I think it's it's easy to say, oh,
Speaker 3: you're it was Baker. You could you could bank on that,
Speaker 3: you could.
Speaker 1: Say, because he's the one with experienced.
Speaker 3: Correct and that's what everybody was thinking about. But they
Speaker 3: did not go in with that with.
Speaker 1: Well, no, they could think that would be a bad
Speaker 1: way to go about it, right, Although Baker did say
Speaker 1: I expected to start, which is of course the attitude
Speaker 1: that you.
Speaker 3: Have if he said, yeah, boy, I'm really lucky I
Speaker 3: got I can't not the guy I wanted there coming in.
Speaker 1: I know we don't have a confidence issue. That's been
Speaker 1: and so that is the I wonder if it's harder
Speaker 1: because if Kyle had not performed well in the preseason
Speaker 1: and in training camp and then he was told Baker
Speaker 1: got the job, I mean maybe that would have been
Speaker 1: how it would that make it easier to take. But
Speaker 1: Kyle did do well.
Speaker 3: He did well, and I think I think Todd said
Speaker 3: it best. He has a good relationship with Kyle and
Speaker 3: they very open, very honest relationship. So he seems like
Speaker 3: a smart kid. And he also has been doubted from
Speaker 3: high school on, so he's he'll be ready if something.
Speaker 3: You know, Listen, you gotta have luck to make it
Speaker 3: through the whole season. That's for any player on any team.
Speaker 1: Although Tom Brady just did three times in a row.
Speaker 3: What yes, Uh, but he wasn't taking any hits.
Speaker 1: I think it's it might have been maybe I don't
Speaker 1: know if for me, maybe it'd be a little bit
Speaker 1: harder to take when I performed well but didn't get
Speaker 1: the job. But from the Bucks point of view, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of great because I don't think that
Speaker 1: we really knew for sure going into this offseason whether
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask had a future as an NFL starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: And I feel closer to feeling that way.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I think I thought he
Speaker 1: looked really good against the Jets. He moved around. Well,
Speaker 1: he's maybe not quite as mobile as Baker, but he's.
Speaker 3: He got a lot of props from me when uh,
Speaker 3: he does the first half and then John gets hurt
Speaker 3: and he finds his helmet and goes in and plays
Speaker 3: the rest of the game, and and wasn't you know
Speaker 3: it's so rare.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like taking a picture out and then
Speaker 1: pop back in. Yeah happens.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're It's like you said, it took
Speaker 3: him a few snaps to get back into the rhythm
Speaker 3: of the game.
Speaker 1: The thing about that whole sequence is that I think
Speaker 1: everybody kind of got a little bit of inkling at
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah, that a decision, if not totally made,
Speaker 1: was close to being made because not playing Baker told
Speaker 1: a lot of us Okay, that probably means he's going
Speaker 1: to be the starter. Yeah, they've already you know, they're
Speaker 1: already at least close to making that decision. The other
Speaker 1: thing about that is we have I've seen John Wolford
Speaker 1: walking around in the building that I don't want to
Speaker 1: say anything on his behalf of how it feels. But
Speaker 1: he looks pretty good.
Speaker 3: The good the good news was he was able to
Speaker 3: fly home with the team.
Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, that's huge. I think that. I think
Speaker 1: coach Bowl said yesterday that he had a history of stingers.
Speaker 1: You know a stinger is, and so he you know,
Speaker 1: they were obviously keeping an eye on that and those
Speaker 1: I think those hurt a lot. Stingers, Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: aren't usually long term injuries. I would be surprised if
Speaker 1: John played.
Speaker 3: I think is like a NERD's it's it's it caught
Speaker 3: a nerve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's usually around on your shoulder area, but it
Speaker 1: can affect you all down, like your arm in your back.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it feels very good. No, but
Speaker 1: they are I think they are usually not long lasting injuries.
Speaker 1: So while I don't expect him to play in this
Speaker 1: third preseason game, he still should be fine. Should the
Speaker 1: Bucks choose to keep three quarterbacks, which I think they're
Speaker 1: going to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the other quarterbacks. Rave about how how
Speaker 1: good he is in that quarterback room, how like he
Speaker 1: really has a great grasp and he also processes really quickly.
Speaker 3: I liked what Baker said that there's no cannibalism in
Speaker 3: the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He did like that.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one was a little no.
Speaker 3: Because well it's it's.
Speaker 1: You could say the same thing without using the.
Speaker 3: Word okay, it's not dog eat dog. Okay, you know,
Speaker 3: but I like, I liked what he said at the point.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's like you don't want to tear each other
Speaker 1: down in that room because the room needs to be
Speaker 1: strong as a whole.
Speaker 3: Right, So, you know, to make myself feel better, I'm
Speaker 3: going to eat you. I mean, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 3: going to consume your flesh. But no, I did like that.
Speaker 3: I'm probably the only one who did. But I thought
Speaker 3: it was funny. Some people were like, I don't understand
Speaker 3: what that means.
Speaker 1: And it's like I actually missed it. I was in
Speaker 1: the press conference, and I must have been must have
Speaker 1: been tweeting something else because I miss it. Then something,
Speaker 1: you hear that cannibal quote, and then I read the
Speaker 1: transcript and I understood what he meant.
Speaker 3: I almost laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: So I think he's going to be I I you know,
Speaker 3: I like his personality, you know, people forget you know,
Speaker 3: they kind of dogged him from last year. Everybody goes, wow,
Speaker 3: he's on his fourth team. You know. Sometimes it's it's
Speaker 3: a dramatic way to put it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had four solid years in Cleveland, correct, and
Speaker 1: then last year was unusual and.
Speaker 3: Look how well Carolina was Like that wasn't a mess?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that was ah right. So the
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade obviously forced him out of Cleveland, and
Speaker 1: then last year was sort of a nomadic year for him,
Speaker 1: which is understandable given the situation. But now he's getting
Speaker 1: another opportunity to maybe settle in somewhere.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it. You know, once he won the
Speaker 3: Heisman in seventeen, so this is six years ago. He
Speaker 3: certainly has matured. I think that that's that's the other
Speaker 3: side of the coin. You get bounced around a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he said several times he's in a good place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he he like a lot of players, he still has.
Speaker 1: Yeah that he's still driven a little bit by always
Speaker 1: having to work so hard for these starting I mean
Speaker 1: this is the second year in a row row that
Speaker 1: he's had to win a preseason quarterback competition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a reason why he's winning.
Speaker 1: But he also feels good. He's like, feels good about
Speaker 1: where he is and who he is at this point.
Speaker 1: It's not I don't think he's fully driven by vitriol
Speaker 1: over the stuff.
Speaker 3: In fairness to Baker, I curious has he been on
Speaker 3: a better team than he is right now? With the
Speaker 3: offensive weapons this team, it's.
Speaker 1: A good question. He was obviously had a very good
Speaker 1: year with Cleveland in twenty twenty, took him to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at who their offensive weapons was.
Speaker 3: That when Odell was there. I don't think so, and
Speaker 3: then that kind of went south.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's likely that he has had a
Speaker 1: better starting duo of receivers than Mike Evans and Chris Gowin. Now,
Speaker 1: if you expanded to running backs tight ends, then it
Speaker 1: might get a little trickier because the Bucks running backs
Speaker 1: are very very young. I mean tight ends are very young,
Speaker 1: so are in the running backs. And you know Cleveland
Speaker 1: had Nick Chubb, so right, they had very so let's
Speaker 1: let's look at this real quick. In twenty twenty, the
Speaker 1: Browns had as pass catchers. Come on, stakes, I don't
Speaker 1: have a mouse. Oh Odell Beckham was on that team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so was Jarvis Landry. So he had their leading receiver
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty when he had a really good year,
Speaker 1: like twenty six touchdown passes an eight interceptions, something like that.
Speaker 1: They went eleven and five. They kicked the crap out
Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh, which everybody in Cleveland loved in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and they lost by five points to the to the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: who would end up going to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: losing to the Buccaneers. Oh wow, his starting court, his
Speaker 1: his by far top pass catcher was Jarvis Landry, who
Speaker 1: had seventy two catches. Jarvis Landry is a very good receiver.
Speaker 1: Going to say, but he's a possession guy. Correct, He's not.
Speaker 1: He's not, doesn't got less speed. He's like, yeah, Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas kind of sure, but not as got to have him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's not. Mike Evans. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: he had Odell Beckham for seven games and he cut
Speaker 1: twenty three passes, right, which isn't a lot. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I said, they had cream hunting nick chubs that they
Speaker 1: had around the game game. Yeah. The tight end was
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper, who they'd gotten after he had a sort
Speaker 1: of a breakout year in Atlanta, but he only had
Speaker 1: like forty six catches. He hasn't done much since the
Speaker 1: big year. We had done event People's Jones, but he
Speaker 1: was just getting started, only had fourteen catches.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I've you know, I'm curious to see how it goes.
Speaker 3: But my interaction with Baker has been really really here.
Speaker 3: He's really very positive. It's not what I thought it
Speaker 3: would be.
Speaker 1: Really yeah.
Speaker 3: I well, because you always think, wow, this guy is kind.
Speaker 1: Of I don't know, I it seems dumb maybe to
Speaker 1: judge on this, but I watched all those progressive commercials
Speaker 1: where he lived in the stadium and just thought, well,
Speaker 1: this is a sharp guy.
Speaker 3: When we had him on here, he was talking about
Speaker 3: how much fun that was, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they were They're just he just seemed kind of
Speaker 1: clever in those videos. I had no question. So I
Speaker 1: kind of had a good feeling about him coming in. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to to it. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's like anything else, you don't know until you get
Speaker 3: into the wins and losses, and that's you know, and
Speaker 3: I think he feels it that, not that he has
Speaker 3: to carry the team, but he's got two things to prove,
Speaker 3: you know. One he wants to prove that he is
Speaker 3: a starting quarterback, and two he wants to win. So
Speaker 3: that's not that not that you go win games not
Speaker 3: wanting to.
Speaker 1: But you know what's amazing is that when he had
Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday, I don't think there was a
Speaker 1: single Tom Brady question.
Speaker 3: No, finally, what's it like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, replacing tom Brady? Following tom Brady? You know someone's
Speaker 1: going to ask that soon.
Speaker 3: But why they will though, But it's a different team.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make Yeah, it's not like somebody has to
Speaker 1: be the next quarterback after tom Brady.
Speaker 3: Did they ask that question in New England over and
Speaker 3: over again, like, hey, you're replacing tom Brady? Probably did they.
Speaker 1: I assume that's was it you somebody yesterday or the
Speaker 1: forced yesterday?
Speaker 3: You can't remember.
Speaker 1: I deserve that. He's like, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: the guy that replay is the guy? Yeah that was
Speaker 1: you and guy that replaces that guy.
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, you don't want to be You don't
Speaker 3: want to be the guy that replaces a legend. You
Speaker 3: want to be the guy that replaced it.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like the perfect situation is Derek
Speaker 1: Carr in New Orleans because he didn't replace Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: They tried a few things, Yeah, didn't work out right, No,
Speaker 1: and now he's the guy who replaces Andy.
Speaker 3: No matter how good you are, you're you're still being
Speaker 3: compared to the legend.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that the lucky guy.
Speaker 3: I don't remember it was me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was you, the lucky guy in New England.
Speaker 1: Then maybe like Bailey Zappi or whoever follows mac Jones.
Speaker 1: His name is Bailey Zappi.
Speaker 3: I love that name.
Speaker 1: The New England fans went crazy for him last year
Speaker 1: because ez I love it. They weren't going well for
Speaker 1: h mac Jones, probably because they had a defensive coach
Speaker 1: calling the offensive place that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 3: Who knew that wouldn't work.
Speaker 1: Now they got by Bill O'Brien back, so at least
Speaker 1: they have a guy who's called plays on Baker Mayfield. Again,
Speaker 1: he looked he didn't play in the second game, nop.
Speaker 1: He looks sharp on four drives. Really it's three drives
Speaker 1: because the first drive he handed off three times and
Speaker 1: then we got stuffed on third and short, so and
Speaker 1: three drives he was eight of nine something like seventy
Speaker 1: yards that nice touchdown, no plays, no interceptions or anything
Speaker 1: that was close to being intercepted, moved around. Well, but
Speaker 1: you can you can look at those numbers and be
Speaker 1: properly impressed and you're not wrong. But we again have
Speaker 1: not seen the offense yet.
Speaker 3: No, and I'm very excited about I mean as excited
Speaker 3: as you can get about a preseason game. I'm very
Speaker 3: excited about the first half of this preseason.
Speaker 1: Game, except again, what are they gonna run?
Speaker 3: Well, I know, but if the Ravens have their first
Speaker 3: stringers in and we have ours in, no matter what
Speaker 3: you're doing, you can see whether you're being manhandled or
Speaker 3: you know which which way. So those are That's something I'm.
Speaker 1: Looking Defensive, the defense is usually win the example, they
Speaker 1: have the advanta there because the offense is not showing
Speaker 1: their best place. But I've already mentioned her once, our
Speaker 1: my fellow writer here on buccaneers dot Com, Brianna Dix.
Speaker 1: She's finishing it up, so by the time you were
Speaker 1: hearing this, it's probably on buccaneers dot Com. She got
Speaker 1: with Dad Lewis, talk to him a little bit today
Speaker 1: about Baker. Dad Lewis is the new quarterbacks coach. He
Speaker 1: was he was a quarterback in the NFL. Daddius Lewis,
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I think he played for Cleveland and he's very, very bright.
Speaker 3: He's going to be a head coach one day.
Speaker 1: So he was our assistant wide receivers coach the last
Speaker 1: two years. But when they shook up the offensive staff,
Speaker 1: they most of it was new guys, but he brought
Speaker 1: in new guys like Brad Idach we mentioned before, But
Speaker 1: he got promoted to quarterbacks coach and I think they're
Speaker 1: very happy with him. But anyway, he was giving her
Speaker 1: some background on Baker, so read that, but also she
Speaker 1: did a little bit of a deep dive Brianna did
Speaker 1: and found some stats from his good year twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: his best year, Baker's best year. One thing that he
Speaker 1: did Oklahoma and then Kevin Stevanski, the new head coach
Speaker 1: they are brought in from Minnesota. Vikings was more rollout
Speaker 1: like bootleg plays, and generally coaches don't have right handed
Speaker 1: quarterbacks bootleg to the left. So what you'll do is
Speaker 1: you'll fake a hand off to the left and then
Speaker 1: turn and roll right. They Stevanskian and their staff found
Speaker 1: a way to make bootlegs to the left work to
Speaker 1: the point where on both sides together combined, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: that year threw more bootleg passes that traveled more than
Speaker 1: twenty yards in the air than any other quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And he was like eight of eleven on
Speaker 1: him for three hundred and fifty yards something like that
Speaker 1: right and two touchdowns, And specifically on bootlegs left that
Speaker 1: he threw the ball twenty year or more air yards downfield,
Speaker 1: he was five of six. He was like that play worked,
Speaker 1: So that's something we could see sure. And what I
Speaker 1: think you're going to see on these I think how
Speaker 1: they make that work on these bootlegs is you fake
Speaker 1: the run one way with your with your wide zone,
Speaker 1: so you get a lot of the offensive action moving
Speaker 1: left and therefore the defenses following to the left, and
Speaker 1: then the quarterback boots around the other way, in this
Speaker 1: case to the right. And you have receivers at three levels,
Speaker 1: so you could take the underneath one if that's if
Speaker 1: the others are covered, but if you might be able
Speaker 1: to hit the innermeter or the deeper one. And I'm
Speaker 1: just really looking forward to seeing that aspect of our
Speaker 1: offense when we're actually showing what we can do. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: You know, people have asked me over and over again,
Speaker 3: what do I think the team is? Well, how do
Speaker 3: you think the team's going to do? What do you think?
Speaker 3: I don't really know for sure, but I think it's
Speaker 3: going to be better than people who aren't here every day.
Speaker 3: And that's just not inside, that's just not Yeah, I
Speaker 3: work for the team. Of course, you're going to say
Speaker 3: that that is an observation of the different moving parts
Speaker 3: that I've been privileged to be able to look at.
Speaker 1: Indeed, so what else you're looking? I'm looking at my
Speaker 1: list now, she got, well, you know one thing that
Speaker 1: kind of we were usually so positive and right and
Speaker 1: shiny on this, but there are some injury issues, yes,
Speaker 1: that are still a little concerning. The First of all,
Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen has some practice in over a week. Correct, Uh,
Speaker 1: don't really. Coaches don't have to give pre ser updates
Speaker 1: right now. So Todd very understandably generally doesn't say much
Speaker 1: to questions about, for instance, Ryan Jensen's status. He'll usually
Speaker 1: just say it's status quo. Right, So therefore, we don't
Speaker 1: really know any if if for some reason we were
Speaker 1: to get inside information, we couldn't say it here right now.
Speaker 1: So the point being, it's kind of a mystery right now.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look to me very likely that he'll be
Speaker 1: starting in week one because he's got to get on
Speaker 1: the practice field and practice in full team drills before
Speaker 1: that happens.
Speaker 3: Right unless he does like he did well he did
Speaker 3: the dubtas Dallas game that practice. That being said, in
Speaker 3: fairness to Robert, he has been. He has been, I mean.
Speaker 1: Him and nick Lett.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you look at if you look at
Speaker 3: the line, it's so different now that you kind of
Speaker 3: there is reasons to be I can't think of the
Speaker 3: word optimistic. Not optimistic optimistic, No, well you can be optimistic,
Speaker 3: but you know a little suspect, you know, you're trying
Speaker 3: to Yeah, you're looking, you're looking. I mean, to be honest,
Speaker 3: you don't know what you have yet, or at least
Speaker 3: I don't know what we have yet.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is if Ryan isn't ready
Speaker 1: to go, and if they go with Robert Hainsey over
Speaker 1: Nick Levertt as the starting center, he'll actually be the
Speaker 1: only guy from last year's we won in the same position.
Speaker 3: Yes, crazy as that might be, because you got.
Speaker 1: Tristan move into the left. You brought him Matt Fowler
Speaker 1: for left guard, right drafted Cody Mark for right guard,
Speaker 1: and Luke Ettik he's moving to right tackle.
Speaker 3: Who I think Cody had a pretty good practice up
Speaker 3: in uh In with the Jets.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He he's I don't want to say mean, but he tough.
Speaker 3: Ryan Jensen, Yeah, yeah, it must be the red hair,
Speaker 3: must be like you know, I don't know what, but
Speaker 3: he he smilesn't really nice, but do not do not
Speaker 3: across him.
Speaker 1: He won an offensive line and be nasty, especially the guards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get in there in the trenches.
Speaker 3: Sure, the whistle I like it so so that'll be
Speaker 3: fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And then this is not even remotely in the same
Speaker 1: category as Ryan Jinson injury. But Antoine Winfield hasn't been
Speaker 1: playing practicing in recent days, and I'm sure that his
Speaker 1: minory doesn't look I'm sure that's a minor injury. But
Speaker 1: what it does to me is it highlights the complete
Speaker 1: lack of experienced depth we have at that position. Yes,
Speaker 1: that concerns me a little bit.
Speaker 3: It should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in fact, had Ryan Neial not fallen into our laps.
Speaker 1: I assume we would have signed somebody else because Antoine
Speaker 1: obviously has three years of experience, and Ryan Neil has experience.
Speaker 1: And then every other player we have at safety has
Speaker 1: combined for one regular season defensive snap in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and that's Nolan Turner played one snap last year. Then
Speaker 1: you got all rookies. It's all rookies after Nolan Turner,
Speaker 1: and they've liked a way some guys it looks. But
Speaker 1: when you talk about the fact that, well, that's not
Speaker 1: totally I will say that's not totally true because and
Speaker 1: we're going to get into this a little bit because
Speaker 1: d Delaney also plays safety, so you do have a
Speaker 1: little bit of experience there if you wanted to go.
Speaker 1: But on the depth chart, if one of our two
Speaker 1: safeties it's unavailable for a game, we're talking about going
Speaker 1: with starting Nolan Turner, who's, like I said, undirected free
Speaker 1: agent one defensive snap, or some rookie who's an undrected
Speaker 1: free agent who's never played in the NFL. They like
Speaker 1: these guys, don't get me wrong. And Nolan Turn's been
Speaker 1: here for a year and he might be great, but
Speaker 1: it's always a little bit concerning when you don't have
Speaker 1: anybody that you can turn to, go, well, I've seen
Speaker 1: that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got no history. Yeah, yeah, you think a
Speaker 3: you know, but you don't know until the game starts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, they we always talk about final cuts,
Speaker 1: which are coming up in less than a week, but
Speaker 1: they're not really final. And they always call you know,
Speaker 1: they have that there's hundreds of players getting cut around
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And so there's newly available players to look at and
Speaker 1: maybe the Bucks fine, if there's any position that I
Speaker 1: would see them signing an outside veteran at at this point,
Speaker 1: it's safety, yeah, just to have some experience there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're when you're near, when you're making the cut,
Speaker 3: but you're on that higher number. Best not to celebrate
Speaker 3: too quick because you because it's like anything else you
Speaker 3: just said, a bunch of players are being cut and
Speaker 3: you don't know, Hey, that guy can work for us.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by higher number?
Speaker 3: Well, let's say I like the fifty third players. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're like fifty from fifty.
Speaker 1: But you don't know who you are. They don't tell
Speaker 1: you you're the fiftieth guy. We can you may you may
Speaker 1: have an inkling.
Speaker 3: If you don't know where you are, you got a problem.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, you know, it's it's going to
Speaker 1: be interesting because there are quite a few rookies I
Speaker 1: think have a shot at not making this team, but contributing.
Speaker 3: I say they do make it. I think this was
Speaker 3: a really solid draft class. I'm saying it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and guys like obviously Cody's starting, Kalijah when he
Speaker 1: gets back to full health, he's starting. I think Yah
Speaker 1: Yah is gonna play a lot. I think he's back
Speaker 1: though he's back in practice. Servase Dennis is it the least?
Speaker 1: Gonna play a ton on special teams? Payne Durham, We'll
Speaker 1: see what kind of role they have for him. Josh Hayes, Wow,
Speaker 1: Trey Parmer, we've already talked about.
Speaker 3: So how many they get? They get what's seventeen under
Speaker 3: practice squad now sixteen sixteen? Okay, so my Matt, that
Speaker 3: gets you sixty eight players sixty nine sixteen.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fifty three plus sixteen maths, which is an
Speaker 1: interesting point because that means, really there's only twenty one
Speaker 1: guys on this ninety minute roster that aren't conceivably if
Speaker 1: if you build your entire practice squad from guys that
Speaker 1: you have have. Yeah, which last year I believe we
Speaker 1: did fifte and week one I think it was fifteen
Speaker 1: of our own guys and one guy we added. So
Speaker 1: you know, you look at say the receiving corps, and
Speaker 1: there's maybe eleven of them right now, you might keep
Speaker 1: nine of them counting the practice squad. Wow.
Speaker 3: So yeah, when are the final cuts?
Speaker 1: August twenty ninth, which is Tuesday. Okay, yes, so the
Speaker 1: game is on Saturday. The cuts are due probably probably
Speaker 1: four pm ET on, but you can cut earlier if
Speaker 1: you can, and you probably will because after the game
Speaker 1: on Saturday, the players have Sunday and Monday off, but
Speaker 1: they come back on Tuesday and they'll be starting work
Speaker 1: then on the vikings. It won't be until the following yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they'll do, and the Vikings will be working on
Speaker 1: the bucks, they'll be starting to work on actual and
Speaker 1: this is our team and still preparing. So I don't
Speaker 1: think you want to bring the guys you cut back
Speaker 1: into the building on Tuesday and then let them go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my guess is, if.
Speaker 3: I know you're if I know you're gone, You're gone.
Speaker 1: And they need to know. So the moves will be made.
Speaker 1: It'll be thirty seven roster moves. But then again we
Speaker 1: can bring up to sixteen of them back.
Speaker 3: I like how they did it before. You know, you goggs, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you cut, you cut, you cut.
Speaker 1: It's funny. But because I think the main impetus towards
Speaker 1: allowing teams to have larger rosters later into the preseason
Speaker 1: is the fact that previously, in the sixteen game season,
Speaker 1: the fourth game, you didn't play your starter. No, so
Speaker 1: you needed that. Yeah, you need players to get through
Speaker 1: that game. But now with a three game thing, especially
Speaker 1: in the Buck situation with their quarterback competition, like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty of our starters haven't played yet, right, but apparently
Speaker 1: they're mostly gonna play in the third game, right, so
Speaker 1: you could cut a lot of guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well supposedly supposedly the first half it looks like
Speaker 3: if you're healthy, yeah, and also depends you know, then
Speaker 3: it also goes like how long the drive is?
Speaker 1: You know, how do they get situations? Do they get
Speaker 1: a two minute drive? Yeah? And anybody, I think anybody
Speaker 1: that's even remotely injured is not going to play. No,
Speaker 1: like you, Why would you? I don't know if you
Speaker 1: practiced today, But Mike Evans didn't practice yesterday, although he
Speaker 1: was running all over the place. So I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think you never worry about Mike.
Speaker 1: I just well, I mean he's barely missed any games
Speaker 1: stock on wood. So but my point is if he
Speaker 1: has anything, if he has any little tweak, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna play him.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, It's like, do you need Mike running out
Speaker 3: on the fields here at the Edmond He does at
Speaker 3: Raymond James Stadium? What is he going for Raymond James Stadium?
Speaker 1: Every time I'm saying he's I can play at Raymon
Speaker 1: James Stadium. This sary.
Speaker 3: No, if he's hurt, I don't know. No, No, he's
Speaker 3: ready to go. He's it's yeah, he'll be fine.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: What else she got? I mean before we get d
Speaker 3: in here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I already got that. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: we're good. All right?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 1: Just what, I'm curious how many of our listeners out there,
Speaker 1: maybe this is something they could email about. Are are
Speaker 1: into the immaculate grid?
Speaker 3: What see you?
Speaker 1: It's like, if it's a game you hate it, that's
Speaker 1: not true game.
Speaker 3: I know the immaculate rece You play wordle? Huh do
Speaker 3: you play wordle?
Speaker 1: Do you play? You actively dislike fantasy football? You have.
Speaker 3: It. I understand why people do it and why they
Speaker 3: enjoy it, But I do this for a.
Speaker 1: Play poker, no cards of any kind of blackjack, blackjack, yeah,
Speaker 1: but immaculate grid is a game.
Speaker 3: I mean, I play black jack with friends.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that you have not heard of the Immaculate
Speaker 1: grid because it is a it is a sensation that
Speaker 1: has swept the nation. Really started with baseball. So what
Speaker 1: it is is it's a three by three grid, so
Speaker 1: nine squares. Along the top, you have three categories and
Speaker 1: along the side you have three categories. So and it's
Speaker 1: the first one is about baseball. So it might be
Speaker 1: like Texas Rangers in one column, Saint Louis Cardinals in
Speaker 1: another column, players that hit forty homers in a season,
Speaker 1: and then on the on the the rose also have something.
Speaker 1: So it might be like Atlanta Braves. And so where
Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves intersects with Texas Rangers, the answer has to
Speaker 1: be somebody that played for the Atlanta Blaze Braids in
Speaker 1: the Texas right now, Okay, and then they I think
Speaker 1: it was acquired by the sports network sites like Pro
Speaker 1: Football Network at Baseball Network, I mean Reference, not Network,
Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference, Baseball Reference so on. Then they have
Speaker 1: been since created one for the NFL and hockey. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and basketball, but who cares? And it's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 3: So you saved the baseball time out you go basketball?
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 3: And you're giving me a hard time because I don't
Speaker 3: care about this game.
Speaker 1: You don't care about games.
Speaker 3: It's not that I just I'm not good at Do you.
Speaker 1: Play any games on your phone? Do you have any
Speaker 1: games that you don't have a single game?
Speaker 3: I have anything?
Speaker 1: No, No, That's what I'm talking about. So but you
Speaker 1: have not only don't play this game. I knew you
Speaker 1: wouldn't play, but you have heard of it. We talk
Speaker 1: about it every I talked to the PR guys every
Speaker 1: morning about this at practice.
Speaker 3: That's probably why I doze off during that period. It's
Speaker 3: like you and golf, you know, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I heard overheard one of my I was one table
Speaker 1: over at lunch yesterday. I overheard I won't name names, okay,
Speaker 1: one of my coworkers here talking about golf, and he
Speaker 1: was telling some of the younger people at the table.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not even about getting good. It's like
Speaker 1: you've you're anxious playing golf until you get to that
Speaker 1: point where you can go out on the course and
Speaker 1: not slow down the people behind you. So most of
Speaker 1: the time, he says, you're not you're not even good,
Speaker 1: but you know you're gonna hit the ball most almost
Speaker 1: every time, you're gonna get it a couple hundred yards
Speaker 1: down the fairway, and so you're moving along and you're
Speaker 1: not embarrassed and anxious because the people behind you are waiting. Correct,
Speaker 1: So it's it's an accomplishment. I know who said that,
Speaker 1: it's accomplishment just to get to the point where you're
Speaker 1: terrible at golf. No, that sounds like a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: No, I think he explained it wrong. What happens is
Speaker 3: is that people watch golf on TV and they think
Speaker 3: they need to be like a like a pro where
Speaker 3: they're waiting to hit their let's say their second shot.
Speaker 3: Well they only hit you know, they're two hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy five yards from the hole on their second shot.
Speaker 3: Their drive was only two hundred yards. People were on
Speaker 3: the green swing. You're not going to get there you're
Speaker 3: gonna you know, but they wait and they wait, and
Speaker 3: then the when they get on the putting green, you know,
Speaker 3: they walk around like they're gonna know which.
Speaker 1: Way to go.
Speaker 3: You don't now. We played on Friday and I was
Speaker 3: telling you about We played with a pro and he
Speaker 3: was a very exclusive course. It was with rented clubs, yeah,
Speaker 3: which actually weren't that bad. Everybody else was grousing about him.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm going to hit this, you know,
Speaker 3: But I will say it helps when you can have
Speaker 3: someone read the greens for you. And I sunk a
Speaker 3: thirty footer at least, and it was like it was
Speaker 3: all yeah, it was it was, but it wasn't me.
Speaker 3: He just told me where to hit it. He still
Speaker 3: had to do it, I know, but he told me
Speaker 3: where to hit it, and I did and it went in.
Speaker 3: I was like, are you kidding me? I got a
Speaker 3: par But I always what they're saying say that you
Speaker 3: don't have to be good, just play fit so you
Speaker 3: don't hold you to get.
Speaker 1: To the point where like you're not skimming the ball
Speaker 1: along the ground and.
Speaker 3: Listen, if you're up to ten swings and it's it,
Speaker 3: just picked the ball up and go up and drop
Speaker 3: it on the green. Okay, quit holding things up.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm saying, if your first main goal that
Speaker 1: takes a couple of years is just be awful, Yeah,
Speaker 1: then wow, that sounds.
Speaker 3: Like a well, because golf is so hard.
Speaker 1: It's very, very hard.
Speaker 3: And if you if you play around and you play
Speaker 3: really really well, you go, oh, I've got this game,
Speaker 3: and then you go play again and it humbles you immediately.
Speaker 1: Well, email us out there if you have a feeling
Speaker 1: one way or another about golf, and whether you agree
Speaker 1: with me. That but horribly boring.
Speaker 3: In fairness to me, I'm just not a big game person.
Speaker 3: I've never It's good that you're being fair to yourself.
Speaker 3: I'm fair in fairness to me. But I do spend
Speaker 3: a lot of time reading. So true, there's that, you know.
Speaker 3: So some people like games. Some people relax their minds.
Speaker 3: It clears their head before they go to bed at night.
Speaker 1: You can do both. Yeah, That's what I did all
Speaker 1: week up in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: Was play games.
Speaker 1: I played games on my phone, read a book, watched Netflix.
Speaker 1: That anyway, so the immaculate grid. I find the baseball
Speaker 1: one more fun because I can pull up names.
Speaker 3: Better, of course, because you're good at it.
Speaker 1: But the NFL one is fine too, particularly when the
Speaker 1: Bucks are in it. And you know who Paul Stewart is.
Speaker 3: I do from Bucks UK London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he runs the buck Power awesome website. Ye, great
Speaker 1: reference for bucket.
Speaker 3: And he's also a nice buck power dot com.
Speaker 1: Every time the Bucks from the Grady emails me, and
Speaker 1: his whole goal is to get the most obscure ones possible.
Speaker 1: I love. It's like, if it's like somebody crosses between
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Browns, he's not gonna go Vinnie
Speaker 1: Testa veritie. See this is the obvious answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm envious of, uh, those of you that have
Speaker 3: that passion for stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's easy with the Bucks. Yeah, Like I think when
Speaker 1: when it was the there was a Bucks Browns one,
Speaker 1: and I could have gone Vinnie Tested sure, or pretty
Speaker 1: soon we'd be able to do Baker Mayfield. You have
Speaker 1: to actually, so Baker doesn't count yet. But I went
Speaker 1: with Harold Bishop just because I love this story. Do
Speaker 1: you know the story of Harold Bishops?
Speaker 3: Now I remember the name though, Did I tell this
Speaker 3: last week? No?
Speaker 1: You did not. So Harold Bishop was This is to me.
Speaker 1: I still need to ask rich McKay about this because
Speaker 1: this is still stunning to me. I can't believe it
Speaker 1: actually happened, but it did happen. The Buccaneers drafted lsu
Speaker 1: tied end Harold Bishop in the third round in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five.
Speaker 3: That would have been under Sam.
Speaker 1: And then he didn't do it. He caught like two
Speaker 1: passes his whole year. He appeared to be a bust,
Speaker 1: a third round bust. Somehow rich was able to trade
Speaker 1: him to Cleveland for a second round pick in the
Speaker 1: ninety six draft. How do you draft a guy in
Speaker 1: the third round, he does nothing, and you get some
Speaker 1: team to give you a second round pick for him.
Speaker 1: You're really good. It's amazing. Yeah, and you know who
Speaker 1: that second round pick netted the Buccaneers one, mister Mike Alstutt.
Speaker 3: Really wow the at Wow.
Speaker 1: So Richmond turned a busted thirdick one of the great
Speaker 1: Buccaneer players.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think Harrold Bishop. I don't mean no, no,
Speaker 1: Bishop is catching strays here. He could be a great
Speaker 1: dude and they have a great life. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he didn't do much in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It has nothing, It has nothing to do with Harold
Speaker 3: as a person. It's just a matter of this is
Speaker 3: how the NFL works.
Speaker 1: So all right, I just had to get in my
Speaker 1: little plug of the immaculate grid.
Speaker 3: There, you know, I will I will say this.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna have to go look into this. Here's
Speaker 1: what it looks like. It's always very exciting when your
Speaker 1: team shows up. For me, when the Cardinals show up
Speaker 1: in the baseball one, it's a blast. So there's the
Speaker 1: football one. See, so like today, all right, you see
Speaker 1: you see this column is headed by.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl Len Dawson. Wow for the Kansas City.
Speaker 1: And then the rose are Kansas City and New England
Speaker 1: and the Giants. And so for Kansas City, I picked
Speaker 1: Lynn Dawson, who was the quarterback of their first Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: For New England, I actually got one wrong first, because
Speaker 1: I guess Wes Welker he never won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with them, really yeah, but Julian Edelman did and for
Speaker 1: New York Giants. What is Well, the reason I remembered
Speaker 1: him is because he actually played for the Cardinals too,
Speaker 1: and that was when I was a kid. Okay, So anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get d in here. Looking forward to talking to
Speaker 1: him I have, as I said, come up with a
Speaker 1: nickname for him.
Speaker 3: I hope he likes it me too.
Speaker 1: And then we have a very short third segment because again,
Speaker 1: as just said, we haven't been getting questions because we
Speaker 1: haven't been podcasting regularly. But we're back, guys, we're back.
Speaker 3: I told you this didn't have to be as long
Speaker 3: as the other one.
Speaker 1: It is anyway, because I can't stop talking. So uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's take a break here and then we'll be
Speaker 1: back with de Delaney the Salty Dogs. And we're back
Speaker 1: here on the Salty Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott Smith and
Speaker 1: I am Jeff Ryan. Now we have our special guest
Speaker 1: with us. D Delaney. Thank you for joining us. I
Speaker 1: know you're trying to eat lunch. You right out of
Speaker 1: the line. Thank you for your time.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I got to start with this hard hitting question.
Speaker 1: What are you? I mean, what position are you? Are
Speaker 1: you a slock corner, are you an outside corner? Are
Speaker 1: you a safety?
Speaker 5: I'm not sure all the above and whatever didn't need
Speaker 5: me to be in the moment.
Speaker 3: Special teams, that's that's the key right now for you?
Speaker 1: Or was right? Yeah? But he's played quite a few
Speaker 1: snaps of all three of those positions the last two years,
Speaker 1: which is I wanted to tell you I thought of
Speaker 1: a nickname for you. So we're talking about three positions, right,
Speaker 1: all right? Three D three You know that's actually pretty
Speaker 1: good good.
Speaker 3: I want to tell our play by play guy, Gena,
Speaker 3: three D does it? Three d's got a pick?
Speaker 1: I like it? All right. You've you've been around a bit,
Speaker 1: and you had a few teams before you got here.
Speaker 1: That's a normal thing. A lot of guys do that.
Speaker 1: And then since you've been here though, you really found
Speaker 1: a home for the last two years. What what is
Speaker 1: different about what you found in this situation here?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Just really opportunity, you know, just go out and compete
Speaker 4: a lot of picks. I felt like it was set
Speaker 4: in stone. But hair, you know, Coach BA and Coach
Speaker 4: Bowl they would give each and the play an opportunity
Speaker 4: to make the team. So it's just all about you
Speaker 4: effort is going out and give me a bit foot forward.
Speaker 1: When you came here, had you already been a versal
Speaker 1: guy like that or did they find that in you?
Speaker 4: They actually fonded to me, like I never play anything
Speaker 4: other than corner and they just put me anywhere.
Speaker 5: I was fine with it. I just wanted to be
Speaker 5: on the team. Yeah.
Speaker 3: How different is it being with the Buccaneers you were
Speaker 3: with the Dolphins, Washington, Jacksonville. What can you tell us
Speaker 3: what would be the difference or for you what was
Speaker 3: the difference?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think it's more about opportunity. I
Speaker 4: felt the other teams they already had their player, they
Speaker 4: already had who they was a little pick for hair
Speaker 4: like each and every day you gotta go out and
Speaker 4: earn your spot, you know, nothing to guarantee, So I
Speaker 4: felt like here that's what set the difference out.
Speaker 1: As Jeff mentioned, you're also really good on special teams.
Speaker 1: What do they got you doing on special teams this year?
Speaker 5: Connor kick off? Yeah, I mean still still the same stuff.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: You got to rememberhere you come from so all humble.
Speaker 4: Any moment anytime I'll team is it fun? I think
Speaker 4: special team harder than anything just to meet though, because
Speaker 4: you gotta scream. You know, you got all your for
Speaker 4: that all the time. So I think that's actually harder
Speaker 4: than d You.
Speaker 1: Ever had one of those penalties when you're a gunner
Speaker 1: where you run out of bounds and then they call
Speaker 1: you for not coming back in bound soon enough.
Speaker 4: No, no, so you make sure you get course, make
Speaker 4: a big emphasis of getting back in ball.
Speaker 1: That's great. How about how many times do you have
Speaker 1: to when you're doing gunner? Are you facing like double
Speaker 1: teams where you got to split them?
Speaker 5: In pre season? You know you face all the time,
Speaker 5: but dn't to see that.
Speaker 4: And I think the Saints, uh Buffalo did it a
Speaker 4: couple of times, but a lot of teams that we
Speaker 4: do double teams unless they're punt into a certain win.
Speaker 1: Well, you got Zion on the other side of your fast.
Speaker 5: Grown young they gotta get him one and they gotta
Speaker 5: get me.
Speaker 3: We're talking to three D at the table.
Speaker 1: I like it. You had really had two interceptions in
Speaker 1: that last game. So the first one, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the first one. Did you know that did you caught it?
Speaker 1: That it didn't hit the ground?
Speaker 5: Did it hit your foot, hit my foot, step my
Speaker 5: foot on the last minute? And I know I caught it.
Speaker 3: How we knew you caught it is because none of
Speaker 3: the little rubber balls, little rubber things came up.
Speaker 1: Good call.
Speaker 3: So that was that was adamant that you had it,
Speaker 3: and then of course looking at the replay, and then
Speaker 3: even then it was even more.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the listeners, Jeff is talking about how
Speaker 1: these artificial pieces of.
Speaker 3: That ended up sticking in people's skins.
Speaker 1: And so the second one, the second one was more
Speaker 1: traditional sort of interception, and unfortunately it didn't count because
Speaker 1: there was a penalty. It was the penalty a good call.
Speaker 1: You won't get fined.
Speaker 4: That's the way I always didn't call it. But I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a good call. You know down the field can't
Speaker 4: what he touched it was.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be frustrating that when you get a pick
Speaker 1: and there's it's.
Speaker 3: A learning experience that you now know that the penalty
Speaker 3: was right. But I'm just saying it's a learning experience.
Speaker 1: Yea. So did you go over the sideline and lobby
Speaker 1: for them to uh to review the challenge the interest?
Speaker 3: I just took my hand.
Speaker 1: I know that, okay, And the coaches trusted you.
Speaker 3: You knew, you knew the film, don't lie, So you're
Speaker 3: gonna do credit. Whether they wanted to give it to
Speaker 3: your in the room, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 3: You're married, Yeah, I don't know, yeah, no, no, but
Speaker 3: but it's a it's a interesting story. You almost gave
Speaker 3: up on football and you decided not to and you
Speaker 3: were you were at the you took the military test
Speaker 3: and you passed it. How hard was that?
Speaker 1: Or what is the military test?
Speaker 4: As you know, you're just going in a bunch of
Speaker 4: they got mechanical question math, science, reading stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and I mean I just took the test. I didn't
Speaker 4: study anything for it.
Speaker 5: I just took it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it hard.
Speaker 5: For me? It wasn't.
Speaker 4: But I mean I think I think if you like,
Speaker 4: if you don't know, like mechanical stuff like that is
Speaker 4: kind of hard actually, like real mechanical tool and stuff.
Speaker 1: But other than that, so you're a it sounds like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, so that.
Speaker 3: Was your backup plan in case the NFL didn't work out.
Speaker 3: Was that the situation for the time being.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna go because I mean
Speaker 4: I had a family at the point at the time,
Speaker 4: so I just want to put off with my family.
Speaker 3: He has a daughter named Madison.
Speaker 1: Madison. She's very special. Oh yeah, tell us about Madison.
Speaker 5: My pride and my joy. You know, everything I do
Speaker 5: I do for her. She in my world.
Speaker 4: She got daunting Jerome so, I mean even with dad,
Speaker 4: I mean I kind of love her even more. I
Speaker 4: cheated her as saying like everybody else and she everything
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: She taught your patience, didn't you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just just being just being there for her,
Speaker 4: even when I get frustrated the NFL not being the NFL.
Speaker 4: Just seeing her face and just her being with everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, that's great. It's good to hear. What's your background before,
Speaker 1: is it? Because I don't know. I didn't know this
Speaker 1: until he said it was the military thing? What led
Speaker 1: you go into the citadel?
Speaker 4: No, So I never had any military experience before the Cito.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: I just really went there because my h my godness, Consulate,
Speaker 4: my mom and my uncle, they was like, let's go
Speaker 4: to military. Just gets football on workout. You know, you
Speaker 4: have a good backup play because Sit Sit her have
Speaker 4: a real good networking. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: that's fine. But I never really had intention on going
Speaker 4: to the military. In my mind, I was I'm going
Speaker 4: to the NFL. I'm just going to the citadel for them,
Speaker 4: you know, and make them happy.
Speaker 3: But how hard was it being at that school?
Speaker 1: I'm just curing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty strict.
Speaker 4: For the first show is kind of hard, you know,
Speaker 4: I want to see its hard, just different because it's
Speaker 4: more mental game, kind of like hazing a little bit.
Speaker 4: But after you get through that and understand that it's
Speaker 4: more mental, helps you become a better person, prepare each
Speaker 4: and every day for life.
Speaker 5: So I mean I took it like took it on
Speaker 5: the chin and kept moving.
Speaker 3: And then you went down to Miami.
Speaker 1: Must have done well.
Speaker 3: You go from here.
Speaker 1: You talk about the.
Speaker 5: Wide spectrum, way different, way different, like.
Speaker 3: Way different in a good way.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, definitely, But I mean going to the city.
Speaker 4: By the time I got to Miami, I was already
Speaker 4: accustomed to doing everything in siteraal way, like fulling my
Speaker 4: clothes and making my bed. So by the time I
Speaker 4: got to Miami, it was just disappoint Basically, do.
Speaker 3: You still make your bed when you get up in
Speaker 3: the morning.
Speaker 4: I tried to, but I mean my wife still be sleeping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I thought maybe he took his part down.
Speaker 1: So, like we said, you found a home here and
Speaker 1: it's gone really wealthy the last couple of years. But
Speaker 1: you did kind of jump to a couple teams before that,
Speaker 1: so you've been in this situation before in late August
Speaker 1: when they're gonna make the restaurants and so I imagine you
Speaker 1: feel very confident right now. But just what's that like
Speaker 1: and what is it like for you now? Uh?
Speaker 4: I mean at first, when I first got to lead
Speaker 4: with in a good experience because you want to be
Speaker 4: in the NFL to and getting cut with kind of tough.
Speaker 5: Also tough for your family. But now I feel like.
Speaker 4: It is gonna be what it's gonna be, you know,
Speaker 4: as long as you go out and give your best
Speaker 4: foot for it. Feel like I'm just down the sword.
Speaker 4: Whatever happens happened. But now that I know I did
Speaker 4: my best, I.
Speaker 5: Can live with that.
Speaker 3: To gain some perspective along this definitely definitely do you
Speaker 3: tell the other guys that you know are trying to
Speaker 3: make the team, because you've been through this before, you
Speaker 3: kind of like, hey, you know, you just gotta just
Speaker 3: do what you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, just don't get down to yourself like I
Speaker 4: feel like early on I got down on myself, lost
Speaker 4: of lot of self confidence because I mean, you're the
Speaker 4: man in college and then the NFL you get cut
Speaker 4: it like, damn, I really not that good. So I
Speaker 4: always tell him that don't lose confident in yourself. You know,
Speaker 4: it's all about time and the situation.
Speaker 3: How do you How did you work through that that
Speaker 3: because it's like you said, you're in college and you
Speaker 3: were the guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I felt like my wife helped me a lot
Speaker 4: with that, like just her being motivating me, like, you know,
Speaker 4: just keep going, baby, It'll be all right.
Speaker 5: You know, your time will come.
Speaker 4: Like I said, all about time and the situation, and
Speaker 4: the right time, and the right situation came.
Speaker 5: I just had to see the opportunity.
Speaker 3: And you were working out on the side, you know,
Speaker 3: you weren't with the team. Oh yeah, so you just
Speaker 3: stayed in shape and kept going.
Speaker 1: You know. I was telling you that this podcast is
Speaker 1: called Salty Dolls because we've been around for a long
Speaker 1: time and I've seen a change in players in the
Speaker 1: NFL where it is acceptable and a good thing to
Speaker 1: talk about things that you just mentioned that you had
Speaker 1: a little crisis of confidence at one point, which should
Speaker 1: be obvious. Everybody that's facing a challenge can have doubts, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think even fifteen twenty years ago players
Speaker 1: would ever talk about that. We've heard so much in
Speaker 1: this camp like Tristan Worfs. You know how freaking good
Speaker 1: Tristan Wurfs is. He was good from the moment he
Speaker 1: got here, but he was telling us how he had
Speaker 1: really big problems with doubting himself when he first got her.
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't do this. I'm I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: protect Tom Brady and I'm gonna I'm gonna screw this
Speaker 1: team up. That's Tristan Worfs, who's an all pro. So
Speaker 1: do you feel the same way that it is more
Speaker 1: acceptable now? And that's a good thing for guys to
Speaker 1: admit that there are mental challenges.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I think it is because, like you say, before, everybody
Speaker 4: wanted to be like a tough guy, and I mean
Speaker 4: they never really had an outlet. Now I feel like
Speaker 4: people have an outlet and they can talk to more
Speaker 4: people about it. So it's bringing lighting them all the
Speaker 4: situation because I think about it, if you don't really
Speaker 4: got nobody to talk to and I'm all stressing stuff
Speaker 4: on your mental you got to release that from just
Speaker 4: yourself and just being to talk to other people.
Speaker 1: And what's great about this is that young athletes are
Speaker 1: hearing this, so you know it's good. You can be
Speaker 1: a tough guy. You're not in playing in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You're not tough, but you can also talk about what
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 3: Well D made a good point is when you when
Speaker 3: you mulleled around in your head, you're just it's just
Speaker 3: you until you say it out loud. And that is
Speaker 3: something that when I was growing up, you're growing up, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they didn't have that, and it is important. And it's
Speaker 3: also important to know that you're not alone, that you're
Speaker 3: not the only person that is creating that has some
Speaker 3: doubt the gustines. I wonder if I'm any good at
Speaker 3: this or what's going on. But also you're showing your
Speaker 3: perseverance that if you know what we used to call it,
Speaker 3: you know, cut off at the knee, you got to
Speaker 3: bring yourself back up. And uh that that's very good.
Speaker 3: That's excellent to you know, people need to remember that
Speaker 3: is it? It's okay?
Speaker 4: Because I feel like an NFL or just sports in general,
Speaker 4: sometimes they feel like, oh, did not be a human.
Speaker 4: They feel like, yes, we human too. We got probably
Speaker 4: that situation. So we all just try to overcome the
Speaker 4: situations that we.
Speaker 3: Especially when you're talking to fantasy football I'm not a fantasy.
Speaker 1: Football don't ahead. He is, Yeah, but but I don't
Speaker 1: talk to the player about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, oh, he just cost dude, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's great.
Speaker 3: All right, we told you we're a twelve minute mark.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm gonna be good. You know.
Speaker 3: That he's smiling and he's having.
Speaker 1: A good to eat.
Speaker 5: Well, he's okay, he can.
Speaker 3: Go get new fresh lunch.
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, Well, we very much appreciate your
Speaker 1: time and good luck, and it's it seems like it's
Speaker 1: really going well for you. So we're really pleased to
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you can credit Scott when we start
Speaker 3: calling three D three D.
Speaker 1: The Salty Dogs and we're back here one more time
Speaker 1: on the Salty Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 3: Jeff Ryan, I have to I have to say props
Speaker 3: to you, you know, three D. You like, I'm going
Speaker 3: to get all over gene on that.
Speaker 1: You got to spell it out. It's three D.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that three D Delainey that you gotta love
Speaker 3: that place. Three positions. You should you know for me
Speaker 3: giving you props on something like that. It's pretty strong,
Speaker 3: all right, Okay, So nice guy too, very and he
Speaker 3: took the time out.
Speaker 1: I caught him in there. I told yesterday, hey, I'll
Speaker 1: just find you in the in the he said, you
Speaker 1: want to do it, go ahead, You were going to say.
Speaker 3: Well, what I was going to say is we walked
Speaker 3: him out, and as we were walking, I went to
Speaker 3: get some Well, first of all, we didn't walk him out,
Speaker 3: and he couldn't get out of the hallway. I forgot
Speaker 3: to buzz him. But so luckily we both needed water.
Speaker 3: So we went to go and we buzzed him through.
Speaker 3: And so as we're walking he's still holding his lunch.
Speaker 3: I said, you really need to toss that. That's cold,
Speaker 3: and he goes, oh, no, I'm not tossing this. He goes,
Speaker 3: I have to go lift, and that's you know, a
Speaker 3: lot of guys would just throw. I said, well, I
Speaker 3: didn't mean. He goes, no, it's good. I like it
Speaker 3: this way.
Speaker 1: I told him we agreed yesterday that I would grab
Speaker 1: him during their lunch break. But the lunch break is
Speaker 1: like three hours long, so I didn't know when he
Speaker 1: was gonna be there. Like you said, he had to lift.
Speaker 1: They've got a special teams meeting, and so I just
Speaker 1: happened to see him come in and starting the line,
Speaker 1: and I went up to him for the purpose of saying, hey,
Speaker 1: just mind and so when you're done eating, we can
Speaker 1: go to the Let's just go do it now. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can eat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great man, nice man.
Speaker 1: And I've he's talked about his daughter before. You can
Speaker 1: tell his face lights up when he talks.
Speaker 3: About interesting though. He took the military officer that I
Speaker 3: didn't know about that. Yeah, that's that was a little
Speaker 3: nugget I thought.
Speaker 1: I like, when I said, you must have been a
Speaker 1: good student, He's.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, like yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1: He didn't decide to be h okay. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: only it's I only have one question is from our
Speaker 1: of course you know who it's from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a podcast without Alexandria Alexander or Alexander.
Speaker 1: Nomento from South Powlo, Brazil. He says, a holy salty one.
Speaker 1: Hope this finds you both well. It does. In your job,
Speaker 1: have you ever had to choose between two people who
Speaker 1: to get a raise or something like a head coach
Speaker 1: has to do to choose a quarterback one or a kicker,
Speaker 1: or have you or were you ever in a situation
Speaker 1: where you're competing for a job promotion, such as the
Speaker 1: buck players are. So he's making a parallel between the
Speaker 1: fact that guys are fighting for jobs. Have we been
Speaker 1: in a situation where either had to fight for a
Speaker 1: job or had to choose? Since you did, thanks for reading. PS.
Speaker 1: Did you notice that the Jets have a player with
Speaker 1: a surname just as my name, his first name Alexander.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't think I have a good example here.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were there were multiple candidates that we
Speaker 1: were choosing from when we hired Brie to be our
Speaker 1: team writer. But I don't know if that's the same thing.
Speaker 3: I I wanted a position. I wanted a job so
Speaker 3: bad that I had spent my career trying to get
Speaker 3: the job to make uh. It was to be a
Speaker 3: program director of a country station. I know that sounds
Speaker 3: really weird, but really I really really wanted that job
Speaker 3: and I didn't get it. And when I was told
Speaker 3: I wasn't getting it, they said, however, we do want
Speaker 3: you to run the Bucket air radio network. So the
Speaker 3: job I didn't get actually was the best thing that
Speaker 3: ever happened to me, because all these years later, I've
Speaker 3: been with the Buccaneer Radio Network. So I always tell
Speaker 3: like interns or people who are looking for jobs, I
Speaker 3: always say, you know, I have to remember sometimes the
Speaker 3: job you don't get is the best thing that ever happened.
Speaker 1: So I did have to compete with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, and I lost, but then I won. I
Speaker 1: don't really have that experience because I never went for
Speaker 1: a job I didn't get. See that's partially because I've
Speaker 1: been in the same job most of my adult life.
Speaker 3: Well, they just don't know what you I got the.
Speaker 1: I applied for and got the internship with the chiefs
Speaker 1: coming out of college, and then a year later I
Speaker 1: ran for this job.
Speaker 3: I remember your first year, I was a pr person.
Speaker 1: Yes, you were, so I guess when I moved into
Speaker 1: running the website and producing content in ninety nine, I
Speaker 1: was the only one. I just went and asked, Hey,
Speaker 1: can we create this job, and they said yes, yes.
Speaker 3: And as it turned out, that's actually a great career move.
Speaker 1: It worked out, it worked out, So there you go.
Speaker 1: The Alexander on the Jets is named Deslin Alexander. He's
Speaker 1: a rookie out of pit He's a defensive end.
Speaker 3: Wow. So good job.
Speaker 1: Hope he makes the team. I don't think he was
Speaker 1: a draft pick, so he might be a long shot
Speaker 1: of the number ninety eight. But no, I don't really
Speaker 1: have a good example for that. I do remember hiring
Speaker 1: a writer in the late two thousands, great guy named Charlie.
Speaker 3: I remember Charlie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great dude. Still keep in touch. But in any case,
Speaker 1: I did the interview on the phone, and the I
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to hire him when I asked him.
Speaker 1: This was the question. So things are going badly for
Speaker 1: the team the books, something bad happens, you have to
Speaker 1: cover it. But you know that writing for the team,
Speaker 1: you generally don't want to be taking shots. So how
Speaker 1: do you tell the story when it's not good? Like
Speaker 1: your team committed five turner vers, You're not going to
Speaker 1: write it was a disaster of the books. They have
Speaker 1: to get the figure out. How do you do that?
Speaker 1: And the answer, which he nailed without hesitation, was you
Speaker 1: let the players and the coaches tell the story.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if the coach says Turners are killing us, we
Speaker 1: have to get this fixed. You had story, So he says,
Speaker 1: you can then expand on it and then flesh it out.
Speaker 1: But it's the coach saying that.
Speaker 3: I think probably one of the hardest uh as he
Speaker 3: was talking about things you had to do for you
Speaker 3: is when we had cutbacks in eight and and you
Speaker 3: had to tell Charlie Man, you didn't have to bring
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 1: But it's true, it was all right whatever because it
Speaker 1: was during the recession.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was during the recession.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's not get into that.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, though, is that you have to
Speaker 3: make tough decisions.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of the people there was a number
Speaker 1: of people that there were like, go from the staff, yeah,
Speaker 1: in that year, and they were not like oh because
Speaker 1: they were not good at.
Speaker 3: Their No, No, it was total and a lot and
Speaker 3: almost all of them ended.
Speaker 1: Up they're all doing great.
Speaker 3: He's doing great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's doing great. Well, I don't know that for
Speaker 1: a fact, but yeah, the ones that I know are
Speaker 1: doing sure. But any case, that's I don't really want
Speaker 1: to talk about that. All right, that's hit, Jeff. That's
Speaker 1: the only one. So hopefully we have more questions next week.
Speaker 3: Did you mean to end on a down note about anything?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Mostly you know you're gonna want to ask about the bucks,
Speaker 1: But I mean.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna do it. Are we going to do
Speaker 3: one of these after the preseason game, before the Viking Gamer?
Speaker 3: I think after the Viking game.
Speaker 1: I think we should do When you mean next week, yes,
Speaker 1: I think we should do one next week because we'll
Speaker 1: have the cuts to talk about, so there'll be a
Speaker 1: lot of news.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we can talk about yes, with the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three Buccaneer team looks.
Speaker 1: Up and hopefully we can find a guest. Generally there's
Speaker 1: one or two guys that are great stories that they
Speaker 1: made the team.
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.
Speaker 1: Like we didn't really get into it much when I
Speaker 1: talked about rookies. We only talked about the draft picks. Correct.
Speaker 1: I could see three four guys ranks making it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: among the guys who have shown up quite a bit,
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker, I like it. Christian Izzion could be your
Speaker 1: starting level for Kim Jarrett.
Speaker 3: Boy, I'm looking forward to next week's podcast all of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden, Yeah, so I think we should do one. So
Speaker 1: you need to send us questions. Good? All right, anyway,
Speaker 1: again one more time. That's Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot
Speaker 1: NFL dot com. Jeff, I'm done.
Speaker 3: I'm me too, because I'm hungry all right since you did.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, M