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Speaker 1: A fresh show. It's Kiki's rise. The honorable k is here.

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Speaker 1: Judge Ki, your honor is yours.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the courtroom.

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Speaker 3: The gavel has been hit, it says, hey, Kiki, am

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Speaker 3: I wrong for reporting my neighbor's rescue dogs sanctuary. I

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Speaker 3: live in a quiet suburban neighborhood. My next door neighbor, though,

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Speaker 3: started fostering rescue dogs. At first, it was sweet, two

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Speaker 3: ten to twelve dogs at a time, and it feels

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Speaker 3: like I live next to a kennel. The barking is constant,

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Speaker 3: the smell is awful, and to make things worse, the

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Speaker 3: dogs keep escaping through gaps in his old fence and

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Speaker 3: running into my yard. They've torn up my flower beds,

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Speaker 3: knocked over my trash cans, and even scared my niece

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Speaker 3: when she was outside. I tried talking to him calmly,

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Speaker 3: but he brushed me off, saying, these dogs would be

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Speaker 3: dead without me.

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Speaker 2: You should be grateful that I'm saving lives.

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Speaker 3: I suggested to him, maybe live how many dogs he's

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Speaker 3: fostering at a time, or.

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Speaker 2: Fixing his fence.

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Speaker 3: He then accused me of being anti rescue and said

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Speaker 3: people like me are the reason that shelters are full.

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Speaker 3: That was my final straw, So I filed a complaint

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Speaker 3: with the city. Animal control came out and deemed his

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Speaker 3: home unsafe. They removed all of the dogs, even his

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Speaker 3: family dog. Now he's telling everybody that I'm evil and

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Speaker 3: I hate dogs, and my neighbors seemed to be siding

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Speaker 3: with him. Was I wrong for filing the complaint?

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Speaker 1: That is a very complicated case. It really is. All right.

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Speaker 4: Well, judge Kiki, by the way, you guys are the

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Speaker 4: jury eight five five three five, What say you?

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Speaker 3: So you know I have a problem with people who

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Speaker 3: adopt dogs and they can't take care of them. I

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Speaker 3: have a big problem. Like I understand, your heart is

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Speaker 3: in the right place. My heart is in a lot

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Speaker 3: of places, but you don't need to adopt pets if

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Speaker 3: you can't properly take care of them. You know, I

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Speaker 3: wish you wouldn't have called and complained on him. However,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad she did because when they got there, they

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Speaker 3: deemed it unsafe, and if it is indeed unsafe, they

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Speaker 3: need to be taken out of the home.

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Speaker 4: Like girl, I mean, you can, but then what happens,

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Speaker 4: what happens to him, that might be unsafe too.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, I know, and I don't want any

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Speaker 3: of the dogs to go to glory. I want them

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Speaker 3: to be rescued and safe. But they clearly were not

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Speaker 3: being treated properly in his home.

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Speaker 4: So yes, well call and you might be doing a

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Speaker 4: good thing, but the neighborhood doesn't have to be affected

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Speaker 4: by your good thing, because you should be able to

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Speaker 4: do the good thing in a way that is good

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Speaker 4: for the animals and also good for the community. Right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just whatever you're doing next door might

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Speaker 4: be a nice thing. But like if again, if it's

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Speaker 4: well then are you really doing a good thing?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: And I was with him, I was with the neighbor

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Speaker 3: up until they deemed it unsafe. Like, Okay, the dogs

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Speaker 3: were barking, Okay, dogs bark The dogs tore up your

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Speaker 3: flower bed, Okay, girl, they need a home. You know

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be there forever. You know, I can get

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Speaker 3: past all of that. But when they deemed the house unsafe, bro,

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Speaker 3: I have to call the people. I'm sorry, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not about you know, me hating or her hating dogs.

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Speaker 2: It's just you.

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Speaker 3: You did not have a safe environment for them, and

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Speaker 3: I know your heart was in the right place, but

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Speaker 3: I don't understand adopting pets you can't take care of.

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Speaker 1: But my question is White fostering.

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Speaker 4: Why are all the neighbors turning on her if it

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Speaker 4: was that bad, Because wouldn't they have been affected by

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Speaker 4: the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like they didn't have the same issue that

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Speaker 3: she was having. She was his direct next door neighbors,

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Speaker 3: So they're going off of his word and he's just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I would rather that. I mean again, so

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Speaker 4: you're saving these animals, they're not you know, potentially being

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Speaker 4: put down or whatever else. But you're not providing them

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Speaker 4: with a very good environment either.

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Speaker 1: Right, So.

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Speaker 4: Is something better than nothing? I guess is the question?

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Speaker 4: Or that's hard, that's hard to say.

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Speaker 2: You don't want them to go too like one of

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Speaker 4: Right, but then again, if they're not living good lives

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Speaker 1: Hey, Laurie, good morning, Hello, good morning, Hi Laurie. So

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Speaker 1: what do you want to say Kiki's court, you're the jury.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So here's the thing. How often did these issues occur?

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Speaker 6: A lot of times? What happens is, you know, the

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Speaker 6: wind is blowing in the wrong direction, maybe there's a smell. Okay,

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Speaker 6: what was that? You know, once every couple of months

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Speaker 6: when the wind was blowing in the right direction. How

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Speaker 6: often was the dog getting into the neighbor's yard? Was

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Speaker 6: it once every six months? I just think that what

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Speaker 6: happens is is people they judge right off the bat,

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Speaker 6: immediately there's two or three circumstances, and they immediately want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the thing that's.

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Speaker 4: I guess the thing that verifies all of this is

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Speaker 4: when they show up to investigate and they're like, oh, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: you can't do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know.

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Speaker 4: Now, I also know that cities and municipalities and whatever

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Speaker 4: have been known to overreact, you know, and say that

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Speaker 4: something is hazardous when it's not, or say that something

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Speaker 4: was it really? And I'm still wondering why none of

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Speaker 4: the other neighbors had as much of an issue with

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Speaker 4: it as she did. Now, granted, the proximity may have

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Speaker 4: been it, but somebody must have been on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Or is she really just overreacting?

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Speaker 6: That should tell you I think there's overreaction here, I

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Speaker 6: really do. That should tell you right there. If all

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Speaker 6: the neighbors are saying, hey, it really wasn't this bad,

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Speaker 6: and the city has to do that. They can't come

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Speaker 6: out under those circumstances and not do something about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 6: Although I agree that, you know, maybe something had to

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Speaker 6: be done, I do also believe there's another side to this.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to hear that person's side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Laurie, thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 6: I'll welcome you too.

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Speaker 4: I think people think, well, I'm adopting these animals and

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Speaker 4: they're not in the shelter so that they're better. But

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Speaker 4: if they're not, what if they're not being fed properly,

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Speaker 4: the conditions aren't sanitary, then you're really not doing anybody

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Speaker 4: any favors in that case, And it does happen. You

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Speaker 4: hear about hoarders, you hear about all kinds of different

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Speaker 4: dealt with it one hundred times with pallets and pause.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kaitlyn knows of one where you know, you

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Speaker 4: adopt an animal, the animal gets too big. This just

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Speaker 4: happened three or four different times. You buy a mastiff,

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Speaker 4: like a purebred mastiff, right, Like, everybody knows that they're

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Speaker 4: going to be huge, and then they get huge and people.

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Speaker 1: Are like, what is this?

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Speaker 4: Right? Shock, I don't know what to do with this,

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Speaker 4: and then they're not treating it well and they can't

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Speaker 1: And then it's not great for anybody?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 4: But like what do you do when you know you

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Speaker 4: knew what you were doing? And in that case, the

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Speaker 4: animal needs to be re homed or and luckily they

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Speaker 4: are organizations that are out there trying to do this.

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Speaker 4: But otherwise the animal is the one that you know

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Speaker 4: takes the brunze of it because they're the only ones

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Speaker 4: in this. You don't have a whole lot of control

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Speaker 4: of where they're going. Hey, Daphney, Hi, how you doing

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Speaker 4: Gigi's court. Good morning, what say you?

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Speaker 8: I say that she should have definitely called animal control.

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Speaker 3: I think it's so often that people don't stand up

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Speaker 3: for their own right and it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Daphne, thank you. I'm glad you called. Have a

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Speaker 1: good day.

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Speaker 4: And I guess the thing is you could say, well,

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Speaker 4: why didn't she call like a no kill or something like.

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of organizations that would have taken these

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Speaker 4: don't think that those organizations have the right to just

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Speaker 4: right to go into the house and be like, hey,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think you know, our friends at

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Speaker 4: whatever organization can just go knock on the door and go, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm taking all these animals.

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Speaker 1: No, because there needs to be some jurisdiction. I missed it.

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Speaker 1: Did they try?

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Speaker 2: Did she try to have a conversation first?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, She says she tried to tell him like, hey,

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Speaker 3: why don't you foster less dogs at a time?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you? It's your fits fixed?

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Speaker 3: And he told her you're the reason that that was

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Speaker 1: Hey Jenna, Yeah, Hijienna Kiky's court.

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Speaker 4: So this this woman, you had a neighbor who was

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Speaker 4: flostering a bunch of animals but really didn't apparently have

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Speaker 4: of them properly. Finally she called animal control. Animal control

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Speaker 4: deemed the place unsafe, took all the animals. Who knows

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Speaker 4: what happens now, and the neighbors are pissed at her

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Speaker 4: for that. What do you think?

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Speaker 5: I think that he shouldn't have been able to have

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Speaker 5: So she shouldn't have had to make a complaint because

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Speaker 5: I've tried to foster and I have one cat and

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Speaker 5: I wasn't able to because of the cat. So the

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Speaker 5: fact that he was able to have so many foster pets,

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Speaker 5: they should have been doing their due diligence and looking

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Speaker 8: It's my opinion.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that people lie about in that process

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Speaker 3: all the time. And I don't know if he was

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Speaker 3: getting them off the street or you know, actually going

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Speaker 3: through the whole process, but people do lie.

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Speaker 2: When they're trying to foster animals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 7: True.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's not good for the animals.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jenna, have a good day. Okay, what is

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Speaker 1: this one? No offense?

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Speaker 4: I love y'all, but I think you're a bunch of hypocrites,

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Speaker 4: because if this was not a fluffy dog and a

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Speaker 4: if it was snakes, all y'all would have agreed with

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Speaker 3: Agree with her. He said that it was unsafe and

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't be there.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what animal. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 4: then I don't think there's a choice here, right, I

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Speaker 4: and they would live forever.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 4: You know a no kill shelter, But I don't think

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Speaker 1: If they are doing a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if we say that we well, we didn't,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I read that. I just I

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Speaker 2: I love snakes, to be honest. I know I'm a weirdo, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Brandon, how are you doing?

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Speaker 4: If you guys have to say about a snake, you

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Speaker 4: better stop right now. You better, Brandon. If you talk

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Speaker 7: No. See, we need to use some logic and intelligence here.

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Speaker 7: The city doesn't just deem a house unsafe because it's

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Speaker 7: a little fluffy buddy or a little uh puppy that's barking. No,

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Speaker 7: a dog. The house itself is garbage. Therefore the inside

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Speaker 7: bit more clearly before they're panicking about well, you hate

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Speaker 7: my dogs. No, that's just the house itself.

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Speaker 4: Look at this, Look at brand, right business, thank you

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Speaker 4: brand and have a good day. Brand is standing own business.

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Speaker 4: And because you know, government can be overreaching. But at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Kate, good morning. Hi Kate, Kikey's car. What

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Speaker 9: I'm just wondering what kind of shelter is giving this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is a good question. Where all these

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Speaker 1: With all these you know, what what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: He's put on different weeks.

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Speaker 1: Where are they going?

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Speaker 4: And again, if in fact he has the best intentions

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Speaker 3: Doll like they took his, you know, they took his

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Speaker 1: They must have really not like what they saw, right,

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Speaker 9: It's like an animal hoarding situation, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, right right right, And yeah I would feel

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Speaker 4: we can't do it like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was someone's really wrong. Thank you, Kate,

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Speaker 4: Have a good day. Well now, Kelly, Kelly, it's the

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Speaker 8: I think it's the neighbor with the pets because the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. Thank you, Kelly. Have a

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Speaker 4: good day. I think it's been decided.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I think he gets caught. I think it's a

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Speaker 4: She's not wrong, no, and it's kind of feel bad

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Speaker 4: and now the neighbors are mad. But then again, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but let this be a lesson.

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Speaker 3: If you can't feed yourself or if you're struggling to

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's like a baby, like a kid. Don't have

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