Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queens up Girl Fashion,
Speaker 1: but you'll top girl. You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama,
Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama drawn MC, Queen's Drama Queens. Hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, welcome back. We just watched Welcome Back Episode two.
Speaker 1: Truth doesn't make a noise. We're great. Episode good. Really,
Speaker 1: I loved this episode. Loved this episode. Like y'all, I
Speaker 1: really feel like this might be to date anyway. This
Speaker 1: is like a top like I don't know, Top two,
Speaker 1: Top two. Hey, I don't know at hyperbolic I get,
Speaker 1: I get a little excited. You gotta rain me in. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: you're also I'm in top ten territory for sure. Listen.
Speaker 1: Just to call it all out, Sophia six, so Fia
Speaker 1: and Enjoy have been traveling all over the freaking planet
Speaker 1: working like crazy. I'm going to miss the two renovations.
Speaker 1: This is the highlight of my week when I get
Speaker 1: to just sit down for two hours with you guys.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all the things is a lot. So what
Speaker 1: are you juggling right now? Walking through it? You were
Speaker 1: getting like blood drawn yesterday? Oh man, my morning yesterday
Speaker 1: was so crazy. We're doing this really big episode and
Speaker 1: it's so good. You know, it's like we're doing We're
Speaker 1: on episode five, so like season one, episode five. It's
Speaker 1: like all these things are happening, and this incredible director,
Speaker 1: Kate Wood is here with us, and she's amazing and
Speaker 1: like she directs pilots all the time, and we couldn't
Speaker 1: believe we got her to come work on our show.
Speaker 1: We're so pumped. That's a good name, and she's from
Speaker 1: Australia and come into set and just be like okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm just say it again, joy kite Wood. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good at that. You're really good at that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She she's like the kind of person who comes over
Speaker 1: to you and calls you darling and squeezes your shoulder
Speaker 1: and you're just like stay with me. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we had that were we were doing splits yesterday. So
Speaker 1: I went to work at ten am, um and I
Speaker 1: had a zoom with my this is really fun with
Speaker 1: my wedding plan airs and my sweet fiance, and I'm
Speaker 1: like writing to work, like combing out my wet hair,
Speaker 1: just being an animal. And these these women are so
Speaker 1: sweet on the zoom and I'm like, hey, guys, sorry,
Speaker 1: you know I don't have like a bra I mean
Speaker 1: the sweatpants I slept in. But how are you set
Speaker 1: the expectation real low? You want them to think you're
Speaker 1: a handful totally um And I get to set and
Speaker 1: because I've been sick, they've been trying to get me
Speaker 1: into the doctor. But I can't go to the doctor
Speaker 1: because we work all the time. And so this a
Speaker 1: doctor sent a person a phlebotomist. I love that word.
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to play a bottomist on TV.
Speaker 1: About the bottomist. Yeah, I'm really to it. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: because I love Dexter so much. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: but this lovely person comes to like draw draw my blood.
Speaker 1: But I get into my trailer and I'm on the
Speaker 1: zoom with the wedding players, and I laid down because
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I if I sit up while you
Speaker 1: draw my blood, off faint. So I just laid down
Speaker 1: to the ground, takes my blood. I'm still on the
Speaker 1: zoom and everyone's just kind of like what is your life?
Speaker 1: And then I went from from the blood draw into
Speaker 1: the air and makeup trailer and I to get ready
Speaker 1: and like run lines while you know, finishing the zoom,
Speaker 1: and I just was like, you know what this is? Uh,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. We're in a circus, see that,
Speaker 1: like you know with the caveat and I know we
Speaker 1: all say this, it's like it's organized chaos. It's insane
Speaker 1: and it's delicious and we love it and we're all
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. I look around every day
Speaker 1: being up here and I'm just so grateful. The only
Speaker 1: thing I could ask for, the only thing more I
Speaker 1: would want is to get YouTube lunatics up here to
Speaker 1: play with me. Well yeah yeah, and I'd be like
Speaker 1: I've won the lottery. Everything's girl, I've got winter coats.
Speaker 1: It could come to Canada. Just drive up from the
Speaker 1: Fox wrap ourselves in Canada, Goose We'll put joy on
Speaker 1: a plane and we'll do it. That's a joy. You've
Speaker 1: been all over the place too. Are you home for yet?
Speaker 1: Figure out what city you're in every day? For the
Speaker 1: last it's been a lot, it's been a lot of
Speaker 1: traveling that was surprising for me because, um, you know,
Speaker 1: as it is in the circus, you never know when
Speaker 1: you're going to get called to get on a plane
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. So yeah, I was. I got
Speaker 1: a job in Charleston on a great movie, a mer
Speaker 1: Max movie with Paul Bettany and Carmeni's Yogo and just
Speaker 1: a really amazing group of people. And it was it
Speaker 1: was a small group, It was a small cast, and
Speaker 1: we were all kind of in one location the whole time.
Speaker 1: So it was nice. I wasn't just there for a
Speaker 1: couple of scenes and then left. I really got to
Speaker 1: be there for um four weeks and just to know
Speaker 1: everybody and spend time. And it felt great. They were
Speaker 1: keeping it small because it for COVID restrictions and just
Speaker 1: making sure everybody would stay safe. And did it feel
Speaker 1: really into a blast? It did. Yeah, we were all
Speaker 1: just kind of in a house for three weeks, three
Speaker 1: four weeks. That's so cool. I also feel like I
Speaker 1: have to throw us all under the bus a little
Speaker 1: bit because as soon as you said, Paul bett just
Speaker 1: be honest, guys, our with our with our queendom fandom,
Speaker 1: that we really all we were like texting joy being like,
Speaker 1: how is he was so handsome, so nice, you guys, joy,
Speaker 1: He's all those things. Of the most embarrassing nights of
Speaker 1: my life was with Paul Bettany because we were doing
Speaker 1: Secret Life of Me. It happened Secret Life of Bees.
Speaker 1: He's playing my abusive husband, but like we had to
Speaker 1: shoot all this lovey dovey stuff before. Scenes were so hard,
Speaker 1: and we're like kissing on steps and it's all cute
Speaker 1: and he's like such a gentleman but also like really fun.
Speaker 1: And on the drive home that night, I'm just making
Speaker 1: small small talk in the van and we're driving on
Speaker 1: this old country road and our van driver hits a
Speaker 1: deer and just it's like three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: and it's chaos and it's a nightmare. And I was
Speaker 1: pretty sure. He was like, I'm never coming back to
Speaker 1: this place again. These people are insane. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: but a gentleman. I didn't know you guys would work together.
Speaker 1: I didn't put two and two together that he really
Speaker 1: he was so great. It's a movie that he actually
Speaker 1: co wrote with a friend of his, Dana Brown and
Speaker 1: and he we had Mark Waters directing, and it was
Speaker 1: just so cool. It was to I just love her.
Speaker 1: She's so creative, look like a babe in this super fun,
Speaker 1: super fun And then after I mean, we love Charles.
Speaker 1: You made a great time and then went to um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to Nashville for a week to stay with
Speaker 1: some close friends and also I had some meetings with
Speaker 1: labels and write music musicians and fighters and just putting
Speaker 1: together this upcoming album that I'm planning. And didn't you
Speaker 1: see that you with a friend of the show. Did
Speaker 1: you go see a friend of ours? A friend of ours? Wait,
Speaker 1: I sent you a photo, but my brain is dead
Speaker 1: right now. What Jimmy was Jimmy Allen? Oh my gosh, Jimmy. Yes,
Speaker 1: I had dinner with Jimmy. It was amazing. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: was thinking somebody from our cast. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I had dinner with Jimmy and his beautiful wife Alexis
Speaker 1: and their kids and they were lovely. Had had me
Speaker 1: and Maria over and ordered a feast and we just
Speaker 1: sat and chatted and it was really fun. He's really
Speaker 1: a big fan. I'm such a huge fan of his
Speaker 1: two It was super cool. It's been fun. I've been
Speaker 1: having a fun couple of months. I have to say
Speaker 1: all I'm doing is taking care of all the stuff
Speaker 1: that I didn't do for the last year. Like Jeff
Speaker 1: and I left the farm last October to go film
Speaker 1: The Walking Dead, and then we have just been on
Speaker 1: the road, you know, either in North Carolina or in Georgia,
Speaker 1: and so all this stuff accumulated here. And thankfully we
Speaker 1: had really awesome people to you know, take care of
Speaker 1: the animals. But there's just stuff that only you know
Speaker 1: how to do. And now I'm in the thick of
Speaker 1: major renovations. I've got really witchy wallpaper up in my
Speaker 1: kitchen now, and that's all I care about. Oh, I
Speaker 1: want to see it. Wait, you showed it to it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to like stop what you're doing
Speaker 1: and take care of the nest so that you can
Speaker 1: then go out into the world and like do all
Speaker 1: the stuff. But yeah, we've got a ton of production
Speaker 1: stuff happening, and all I want to do is wallpaper.
Speaker 1: I stayed up till literally we've got this very very
Speaker 1: ugly stone fireplace. It was not built by a stonemason.
Speaker 1: It was just like somebody was like, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: these rocks on a wall, and I concreted it last night.
Speaker 1: I said up to like midnight. I'm like, I'm sick
Speaker 1: of looking at this thing that we're so similar. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's how my much and started. I was like,
Speaker 1: I got a can of green paint for my garage
Speaker 1: and I started painting a cabinet. Was like, this will work.
Speaker 1: You know. A week and a half later, I'm still
Speaker 1: on the ground with a spray gun painting my cabinets. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's great to be back. I go to New
Speaker 1: Jersey for convention in a few days, so it'd be
Speaker 1: nice to go back home for a little while, Anna,
Speaker 1: and then I'm here for Christmas. So it's it's just
Speaker 1: that time of year when everything is so jam packed
Speaker 1: and your email inboxes blowing up, and your text messages
Speaker 1: are blowing up, and we're having a Christmas party here
Speaker 1: and let's to plan for that. So it's it's just busy, busy.
Speaker 1: I got home from this like weird, crazy day at
Speaker 1: four am. I mean, I guess technically today and I
Speaker 1: was on Pinterest for it. Now, I was like, this
Speaker 1: sounds to categorize. Man, let's get into luss factor dot com. No,
Speaker 1: I want to bury it. No, I don't. I definitely
Speaker 1: don't we have such good stuff with the party. But
Speaker 1: let's get into the c D aspect of this episode,
Speaker 1: because it actually was pretty funny. Um, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. And Hillary, you said this early. You
Speaker 1: were like, you know those people who've who have done
Speaker 1: great acting with killer scripts, like I dare you to
Speaker 1: do her material. You and I somehow, I think we
Speaker 1: deserve like a girl scout patch because you and I
Speaker 1: somehow made the creepiest storyline feel very cute between two
Speaker 1: cute I dare Kate winslet to do this. You know what,
Speaker 1: I would, come on, just try he just take a
Speaker 1: picture of her ass for lust factor and make it
Speaker 1: look not assaulty? Did you have to have? They had
Speaker 1: to take that photo for props? So here's what I
Speaker 1: tried to do is I tried to unsexy every element
Speaker 1: if you write, like, my posture in this episode is
Speaker 1: incredibly slouchy. And then when I they had to take
Speaker 1: the ash shot, I tried to make my legs all
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, it looked like big bird draft.
Speaker 1: It's not cute. And then they're like, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take this picture in the shower, and I'm like
Speaker 1: I know how to make this ugly. I want to
Speaker 1: put this shower cap on. If you fight sexy at
Speaker 1: every turn, ultimately you'll end up with something adorable. It
Speaker 1: becomes cute, you know what. I think you end up
Speaker 1: with this comedy. Yeah, you're a smart cookie. Well listen, Like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the dating scene though in Wilmington's because
Speaker 1: there was not a lust factor dot com. There wasn't one.
Speaker 1: We were all very available women for like five minutes. Uh,
Speaker 1: they well, did you actually do a dating site? Like
Speaker 1: did you? It wasn't until later sles, But I was
Speaker 1: single for like, I don't know what some of the season,
Speaker 1: all of season six for sure. Um, and my best
Speaker 1: friend Tory, who lived in Raleigh. So Tori would like
Speaker 1: come and hang out with us all the time in town.
Speaker 1: We decided to sign up from match dot Com on
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and we were like, let's just do it.
Speaker 1: Let's just do it together. This is going to be fantastic.
Speaker 1: And so Wilmington was like a college town but also
Speaker 1: like kind of a military town, and it was like
Speaker 1: it was an odd bag of dudes. You never knew
Speaker 1: what you were going to get. And I get on
Speaker 1: match dot com and every single dude I talked to
Speaker 1: is a pilot and he happens to be flying out
Speaker 1: that night and it's the only night he can see you,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be gone, but he just really wants
Speaker 1: to meet you that night. So I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: really end up dating anybody from match dot com. However,
Speaker 1: I was living alone, and the uncomfortable thing is that
Speaker 1: a number of my neighbors matched with me, and then
Speaker 1: they just walk by the house and on to that
Speaker 1: one of our crew members matched with me. It was
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. You have to tell us, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: later where They're like, should we And I'm like, definitely not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I need to paint a
Speaker 1: picture for our listens of the dating scene in Wilmington's
Speaker 1: because it is mystified. And four in two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: it is mystified. A lot of people they're like, why
Speaker 1: you guys just kissing each other? And I'm like, you
Speaker 1: don't get it. You don't understand that. People are always like,
Speaker 1: why was that show like such an actual high school,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, because Willington's has two groups of people.
Speaker 1: There's all of the U. N C. W students who
Speaker 1: are eighteen to twenty one, and we are now twenty one,
Speaker 1: but on television, so you know, we're we're pretty exciting. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know commodities to the college kids, so immediately
Speaker 1: where we can buy before the college. We got to
Speaker 1: avoid the colleges. But also kind of too old, too
Speaker 1: mature to date guys that were in that twenty one
Speaker 1: year old bracket in that college town because we had together,
Speaker 1: we had our lives going, like, we had jobs, and
Speaker 1: we weren't like going to go to someone's you know,
Speaker 1: Sigma kay party, although that would have been honestly, you
Speaker 1: know what we should have done is before the show premiered,
Speaker 1: we should have crashed some frat parties. Really we we
Speaker 1: missed it. But as I digress, the other available quote
Speaker 1: largest pool of men in Willington are retirees who live
Speaker 1: on both courses. I'm telling you're not down to date
Speaker 1: somebody's grandfather. So I was I you had you could
Speaker 1: have had at but yeah, this is basically why we
Speaker 1: all discussed each other. I kept being like, like a
Speaker 1: hot professor are in town, or you know, like there
Speaker 1: was a hot professor in town and he was married
Speaker 1: to an equally hot academic, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I could we all have dinner and you could teach
Speaker 1: me about how you met. I don't know, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: were there really was. There was just a gap. Well
Speaker 1: lust factor understand match dot com? Yeah it could have.
Speaker 1: It could have done wonders for all of us had
Speaker 1: it really existed. I also don't understand how you uploaded
Speaker 1: polaroid pictures to the Internet in two thousand. What was that? No?
Speaker 1: I was learning photos from the cannon elf. Oh is
Speaker 1: that what your little phone from the little power shot?
Speaker 1: And then I'd put it in the card reader. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, what's so fun watching that old technology? It
Speaker 1: really was that. It's so insane, you guys, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that opening. Those shots were so beautiful, the like
Speaker 1: twisting shots, the upside down, the transitions of faces look
Speaker 1: can at each other in different places. I loved that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was this the first episode he directed? I don't know.
Speaker 1: For those of you at home, Billie Dixon was our
Speaker 1: director of photography, UM and he had done Ali mclamps.
Speaker 1: He'd put a lot of lamps. He did a lot
Speaker 1: of great work. Sorry, I don't mean to reduce that.
Speaker 1: You can also blame Mark Department for some of the lamps,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Team Sport. No Billy has
Speaker 1: an illustrious career. Um, and yes he's done a lot
Speaker 1: of great work, but this may have been the first
Speaker 1: time he directed in front of the sorry, behind the
Speaker 1: actual camera, not just setting up lighting and and stuff.
Speaker 1: So um, I thought he did a great job. I
Speaker 1: love all the transitions and he was so creative, like
Speaker 1: the CD going into the case, going into the round
Speaker 1: basketball hoop, you know, and that shot of of Dan
Speaker 1: and Deb in the hospital room with the city escape
Speaker 1: and he coming, you know, shooting through the glass with
Speaker 1: the reflection, really really creative stuff. That's such a smart
Speaker 1: way for us to not be in an actual city,
Speaker 1: use a screen like a printed screen and just use
Speaker 1: the reflection of it in the glass because it makes
Speaker 1: it look totally real and you don't have to travel
Speaker 1: to Raleigh or Charlotte to get that shot. You know.
Speaker 1: It's such a smart use of your stage. You can
Speaker 1: build your hospital room on a stage and make it
Speaker 1: look like it's outside in a downtown area and never
Speaker 1: leave the compound. Ever ever, they never happened to leave
Speaker 1: the compound, you know what. You know, what stuck out
Speaker 1: to me speaking of the tech that we thought was cool.
Speaker 1: Who thought any of us ever texted like excellent x
Speaker 1: C l N T like you know g r E
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was like, Haley would never. She's
Speaker 1: a tutor, she would know that was definitely a grown
Speaker 1: up like head of the kids talk, the kids juggle
Speaker 1: like this. And then I realized, I think they did
Speaker 1: it to to get the Bill joke when you call
Speaker 1: Lucas Bill and then you're like, you know, brother in law,
Speaker 1: which I thought was so Yeah, there was something about
Speaker 1: that setting that wasn't the parking lot we normally shot in.
Speaker 1: And they put like those big banners on the chain
Speaker 1: link fences and you could see kids playing like sports
Speaker 1: on the field. High school. It felt like a real
Speaker 1: high school. This episode seems like that. And the party
Speaker 1: episode it gave me like all the cult classics of
Speaker 1: our time, like Can't Hardly Wait and and and um
Speaker 1: what was the about you? And she's oh yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: I loved it so much. This episode felt like that
Speaker 1: to me well, and it also was big core five
Speaker 1: energy in this episode. That scene in the parking lot
Speaker 1: where it's the five of us, there were not a
Speaker 1: lot of scene I wish it would longer. That gave
Speaker 1: me like big time warm fuzzies to just see us
Speaker 1: all together and know that like we just come back
Speaker 1: from hiatus, this was episode two, Like we're still riding
Speaker 1: high on like everyone still got a tan from this summer.
Speaker 1: Those those scenes felt really good to be together, you know,
Speaker 1: because we knew at that point that we were working
Speaker 1: on something that had collected an audience and that we
Speaker 1: were making a really fun episode. And we also knew
Speaker 1: that the Nathan and Haley bomb had dropped and was
Speaker 1: like blowing people's minds, and so it just was really
Speaker 1: fun to play into that. What was the feedback you
Speaker 1: got joy as like the wedding stuff unfurled? I well,
Speaker 1: I think it was still a lot of the same uh,
Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff we talked about before,
Speaker 1: which is what kind of an impact is this going
Speaker 1: to have on you know, young young people who are
Speaker 1: falling in love at that age, um so. And that
Speaker 1: was still in the era of message boards as uh
Speaker 1: brutal like and I AM's instant messages when the guy
Speaker 1: says I am me sometimes so funny. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: there were message boards and um so, I think that
Speaker 1: was sort of the chatter at the time. Um, but
Speaker 1: I were I don't remember in terms of feedback of
Speaker 1: specifically Nathan and Haley being married young. I know it was.
Speaker 1: It was a little hot topic in some magazine blurbs
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, things that were like, oh,
Speaker 1: things that are happening on big big news in TV
Speaker 1: land and different things. Um but I do remember shooting
Speaker 1: the party scene because it was our that was our
Speaker 1: first time at Trick. We we got that building, and
Speaker 1: I didn't remember when we were watching the episode, I
Speaker 1: didn't remember that that came to be through this through
Speaker 1: Lucas and the scene with you guys. I had never
Speaker 1: seen that before. So shocked. How do we forget that
Speaker 1: we were like Lucas found Trick like totally. I always
Speaker 1: thought it was Peyton. I thought it was Peyton too.
Speaker 1: I guess he gets credit. Thanks. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: in your defense, it's not Trick yet, it's just a
Speaker 1: warehouse party, I would say, I would probably your idea.
Speaker 1: It's a rave right now. Out of all of the
Speaker 1: sets that we filmed in, I have the strongest emotional
Speaker 1: connection to Trick and so it was really exciting to
Speaker 1: see it did you guys know that the Trick building
Speaker 1: is in blue velvet? Really? Yeah? Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: legendary spot in Wilmington's Um. I just loved that building.
Speaker 1: I love the parking lot. I loved it. It was
Speaker 1: kind of seed right there on the train tracks on
Speaker 1: the edge of town. There's a bar next to it
Speaker 1: now where my buddy Skyler work Satellite, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's it's a hangout man. And the fact that our
Speaker 1: convention friends, friends with Benefit do their conventions out of
Speaker 1: that space and we get to go back and visit
Speaker 1: there means a lot. Um. It's so special walking up
Speaker 1: that inner stairwell, like when we did our last you
Speaker 1: can mentioned there and like walking up there holding your hand,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, oh my god, oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Like I felt like I should be back in that
Speaker 1: pink top. Oh my god, the best top ever. Why
Speaker 1: didn't I keep you tight outfits in this episode? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks so cute. The party though, this party was
Speaker 1: so I like, it's so retro. I want to throw
Speaker 1: another one of these parties, like doing some sort of
Speaker 1: theme Nathan and Haylor anniversary party, their anniversary party. You
Speaker 1: remember that moment of walking up the stairs of that
Speaker 1: sense memory? I I do, I do, And I know
Speaker 1: that I have a million memories of walking up those stairs,
Speaker 1: but that one in particular, I don't necessarily remember all
Speaker 1: the details. But I it's weird watching it. It's a
Speaker 1: convert like my my, sorry, my brain and um, the
Speaker 1: image that I'm seeing on screen and the feeling that
Speaker 1: I had in my body when I was in that,
Speaker 1: you know, finally converge and connect. And so I remembered
Speaker 1: standing there with everybody shooting off their confetti little mini
Speaker 1: handheld confetti cannons and silly string um, and seeing all
Speaker 1: those faces and the smell of the place. Uh. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just remembered that moment. I could feel
Speaker 1: it again. It was really cool. Do you guys remember
Speaker 1: I don't know why we didn't just like tent the building,
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, like when we would film there,
Speaker 1: it would be from like six o'clock at night to
Speaker 1: six o'clock in the morning, and we essentially had like
Speaker 1: slumber parties there and we'd leave trick as the sun
Speaker 1: was coming up, and like going down those rickety stairs,
Speaker 1: you know, six o'clock in the morning, that green room
Speaker 1: in the back, that green room off to the side
Speaker 1: with a couple of couches, and like, if you could
Speaker 1: get to that couch before anybody else did, you got
Speaker 1: to take a nap. Otherwise you were stuck with your
Speaker 1: cast chair. I just remember Craft Service being set up
Speaker 1: in the downstairs of Trick and like it's been freezing
Speaker 1: in there and drinking gallons and gallons of coffee in
Speaker 1: that place. Yeah, yeah, what were your favorites? I mean
Speaker 1: Trick for sure. And then I will say, you know,
Speaker 1: I had such an attachment to Karen's Cafe because Karen's
Speaker 1: became close over Bros. I loved the River Court, but
Speaker 1: you never knew what you were going to get, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy to move around because of the gravel
Speaker 1: around the trailers and the mud and the mosquitoes and
Speaker 1: the cold. So I loved the location as a visually,
Speaker 1: I loved it. But you know what I did like,
Speaker 1: I liked whenever we shot outside downtown, walking around in
Speaker 1: the streets. I was just going to say that front
Speaker 1: and market, like whenever we got to do stuff at
Speaker 1: those little shops or down by the loved I always
Speaker 1: loved that, and then we could always run into edge
Speaker 1: of urge. We we'd like go to Phoenix and get
Speaker 1: a hummus plate. I loved Yes, I loved it. But
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about great about Trick too, is
Speaker 1: that you always kind of knew what you were going
Speaker 1: to get because they had they figured eventually they figured
Speaker 1: out the temperature situation. So they had a c pumping
Speaker 1: into the building on hot days, and they had heat
Speaker 1: coming in on the cold and even Yeah, and on
Speaker 1: the cold days, actually, you pack enough people in there,
Speaker 1: you just shut the doors and you don't have to
Speaker 1: turn anything on. Everybody just body heat warms up the
Speaker 1: whole place. Wait, whose body heat were you absorbing? Enjoy
Speaker 1: I was always cold. Yeah, I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: Trick was probably my favorite too. I really enjoyed being there.
Speaker 1: We just we have such special memories there and I
Speaker 1: don't know, like you were saying that that feeling of
Speaker 1: your memory and it's like your memory comes out of
Speaker 1: the back of your head and your heart is swelling
Speaker 1: up and there it's like already here. It's very emotional
Speaker 1: and I don't know, the seeing how it started is
Speaker 1: so sweet. We have to talk about the fake cough
Speaker 1: because trick trick begins with this amazing Brooke and Peyton
Speaker 1: joke and the call back to the fake off at
Speaker 1: the party that killed me. You guys, I loved it.
Speaker 1: I think you talked about how I really like a
Speaker 1: Brooke and Peyton two on one, and we do it
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show. You know, we're yeah,
Speaker 1: you clearly see the footing of this friendship. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: like we're on one side, you're on the other. Lucas
Speaker 1: is definitely on the other side of this. I are
Speaker 1: so out of his when he's not even wearing real shoes. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, the flip flops were killing me. But by
Speaker 1: the way, I remember chat about flip flops in real life. Like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're on a film set, you gotta wear real shoes.
Speaker 1: They dropped all the time, you know. Um, But back then,
Speaker 1: like flip flops were cool. Remember everybody had like rainbows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially in a beach town. Remember the huge Um so
Speaker 1: I love that. The only thing we could think of
Speaker 1: to get out of this letter burning conversation with Lucas
Speaker 1: was a fake call. Peyton is not a clever girl. No,
Speaker 1: but it No, I no I disagree. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's such a funny. It's such a classic comedic device,
Speaker 1: and and you get with no exposition that it's a
Speaker 1: joke between the two of them. And it's so funny
Speaker 1: to me that it's like that's the thing you did
Speaker 1: or the fake call, and then so Brookie uses it
Speaker 1: on Peyton at the end, you're just like, oh man,
Speaker 1: it can't it just knt? But how awkward? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like they call him the nameless one or has
Speaker 1: he done? What's he done? Really? That's that bad? I
Speaker 1: feel like he's apologized three hundred times. How does he
Speaker 1: know that you didn't read the letter? Well, he doesn't
Speaker 1: know till the end, but like, just because we're being
Speaker 1: so awkward about it, I think he can just see
Speaker 1: that we're like, yeah, no, the letter was fine, and
Speaker 1: he's like no, but even asking the question in the
Speaker 1: first place, like why would he know to like, what
Speaker 1: was it that was giving it away that he went
Speaker 1: You guys didn't read the letter. We didn't cry joy,
Speaker 1: We didn't cry because his words moved our hearts. You
Speaker 1: guys want to talk about Devin dan Man. They are
Speaker 1: projecting oh yeah, big time. They are just projecting onto
Speaker 1: Nathan and Haley so much and godes Dan is too.
Speaker 1: For our listeners. When we watched the show together, we're
Speaker 1: all in different places, and you know, we all hit
Speaker 1: play at the same time. So if you miss something,
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to be like, Okay, everybody stopped,
Speaker 1: let me rewind, let me watch it again. You just
Speaker 1: you just keep going. So I missed. I don't know.
Speaker 1: My brain was distracted. What was the doctor saying about Dan?
Speaker 1: Why is he suddenly nice? What happened? Girl? He had
Speaker 1: a heart attack. I mean, it wasn't like some sort
Speaker 1: of brain I feel like he was trying to say,
Speaker 1: there's some something happened where now he's like can't remember,
Speaker 1: he's got some kind of amnesia or he's got some
Speaker 1: kind of something. It's teen drama doctor talks, so if
Speaker 1: he plays a doctor on TV, tell us so let
Speaker 1: me let me tell you what the way I took it,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a little unclear as well,
Speaker 1: But I thought deb was basically like, what is going
Speaker 1: on with him? And he was saying, well, his disposition
Speaker 1: is positive and whatever, and you know he was saying
Speaker 1: all these words you've never heard Dan Scott described as
Speaker 1: so much to the point that I can't remember what
Speaker 1: they were and I didn't put them on my notes,
Speaker 1: but basically saying like he's empathetic and and happy, and
Speaker 1: she's just just like what, like is this gonna last? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, everyone is like did he have a stroke?
Speaker 1: Like we're very confused, confused and even that, but like
Speaker 1: now that hearing Whitey was like trying to get Keith
Speaker 1: to go back and try and reconcile again. That was
Speaker 1: so out of character. I didn't understand that part. I
Speaker 1: understand why it doesn't everybody just tell Dan to screw GHO,
Speaker 1: screw hmself and leave. It'll leave everybody away. I love
Speaker 1: feisty Joy Joy Joy. You have had it up to
Speaker 1: your eyeballs with toxic relationships and you are like out
Speaker 1: in the world with a flamethrower, just like take it down,
Speaker 1: get out the Dan of it all. Like we've seen
Speaker 1: Dan drinking whiskey out of his glass in every episode ever,
Speaker 1: and in this episode he's like eating hospital jello. You know,
Speaker 1: like every single choice was to kind of emasculate and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: to like defang him. Yeah, even seeing him in the
Speaker 1: hospital gown at the beginning we talked about was like
Speaker 1: a choice because he's really vulnerable and like, um, I
Speaker 1: like seeing Dan on his heels, But I also know
Speaker 1: it's bullshit because the second Deb comes in and he's crying,
Speaker 1: He's like, baby, we got this. We're gonna call it together.
Speaker 1: You called it, you said in the early part of
Speaker 1: the episode, you said, he's giving me major Anakin Skywalker
Speaker 1: vibes where he goes dark and then when and when
Speaker 1: he's holding Deb and he says, we'll get our son back.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just your father. He's Anakin Skywalker. Yeah. Sure. Oh.
Speaker 1: Joy called it when Keith goes to visit Karen because
Speaker 1: Joys like, this energy is different. Um. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: some new chemistry there, chemistry. Maybe it was like maybe
Speaker 1: it was the fact that Keith had allowed himself to
Speaker 1: really like well, not that he's not slept with anybody
Speaker 1: else in the last thirty years, but I guess it
Speaker 1: was fifteen years. Um, I don't know, but there was
Speaker 1: something about it seemed like maybe pheromones leaving town. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just taking a stand. Yeah, suddenly he feels a little
Speaker 1: more free and he's not quite so puppy doggish with Karen.
Speaker 1: That is much more appealing, and she and I loved
Speaker 1: those shots again, Billy Dixon with the great directing of
Speaker 1: shooting Karen low beneath when you're over Keith's shoulder looking
Speaker 1: down at Karen, and then when you're behind karen shoulder
Speaker 1: looking up at Keith and you can see the tall
Speaker 1: masculine vibe from him and that small feminine vibe from her.
Speaker 1: It was just it was a nice It was this
Speaker 1: quick scene, but it was nice. It was interesting, it
Speaker 1: was flirty, and it's a really interesting thing to be
Speaker 1: able to observe because you realize that, you know, they
Speaker 1: always made us all stand on apple boxes, so it
Speaker 1: would be easy to shoot around, like we were all
Speaker 1: the same height, and none of us are as tall
Speaker 1: as those boys. We actually had very tall boys on
Speaker 1: our show. That's rare, very tall, super rare. It is
Speaker 1: really rare. Yeah, So there was something really interesting in that,
Speaker 1: in that dynamic, like I want to look little. I
Speaker 1: always look like Lurch. I'm always yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: look little. Damn it, someone give the Bambi. I. It's
Speaker 1: just interesting because Keith in a way has set a boundary,
Speaker 1: you know, he finally established a boundary between him and Karen,
Speaker 1: and Karen sees him differently now and then, speaking of
Speaker 1: boundaries and flamethrowers, Hayley sets a gauntlet of a boundary
Speaker 1: down with dev and I'll do you remember filming that scene?
Speaker 1: I do in a I do in a way. I
Speaker 1: don't remember the exactly any of the behind the scenes stuff,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I love that scene. I love
Speaker 1: that she's willing to be extending all of branch, be nice,
Speaker 1: be generous up to a point um, but then she's
Speaker 1: fierce and defend defends her family, and I loved that
Speaker 1: about her. Joy. Do you know what I remember about
Speaker 1: filming that scene? What it was one of the first
Speaker 1: times I remember you saying we need to have a
Speaker 1: conversation about this because you were upset that Nathan wasn't
Speaker 1: backing Haley up while we were filming. You were like, hackme,
Speaker 1: Nathan doesn't say like anything to his mother, And I
Speaker 1: remember thinking, like, yes, you don't remember that. You were like,
Speaker 1: You're like, he's really just going to stand there and
Speaker 1: make and just like watch his mother is like berating
Speaker 1: his new wife, Like that is gross. And I remember thinking, girl,
Speaker 1: why did they make us do all the work? Why
Speaker 1: did they do that? And I was so happy that
Speaker 1: you said that, And I don't know that you necessarily
Speaker 1: won that fight. And I think, you know, Haley looked
Speaker 1: strong in this episode standing up for herself, but I
Speaker 1: also really value that you were like, no, it's not
Speaker 1: on me to put your mother into her place. This
Speaker 1: is a US situation. So for all of you at home,
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, I remember that fight and I liked it.
Speaker 1: I love that. It would have been nice, actually, and
Speaker 1: that could have easily been done. They could have shot
Speaker 1: a quick glance where I look at Nathan and he
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything, and then I'm like okay, and then
Speaker 1: I jump in, or and then they have a fight
Speaker 1: about it later. Or they could have shot a moment
Speaker 1: where Nathan starts to talk and I put just touch
Speaker 1: him with my hand and I'm like, I'd like to
Speaker 1: address this and then I handle it. But just something
Speaker 1: to where Nathan not just standing there like a Putts.
Speaker 1: But you know, they're teenagers. He is a boy, and
Speaker 1: we we said that during the episode. You know, Deb's like,
Speaker 1: he's not a man, he's a boy. And that was
Speaker 1: probably the truest line for me in this little Native
Speaker 1: because as the mother of a boy, no one better
Speaker 1: touch him ever ever. Ever. Um, I thought Barbara was
Speaker 1: handling all that really well, by the way, because it
Speaker 1: was nice to see after how much we talked about
Speaker 1: in the first season, how much she had everything together
Speaker 1: and was handling everything and it was starting to spin
Speaker 1: out towards the end of season one, but she was
Speaker 1: such a beacon of a woman with her together in
Speaker 1: the first season, So to see everything kind of spinning
Speaker 1: out and really seeing all the cracks start to show,
Speaker 1: I really liked that. And I thought barb as an
Speaker 1: actress handled that really well. It's nice to see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and it is really nice too. I do think
Speaker 1: that um, her reaction grounds the experience, and it also
Speaker 1: enables everyone else's joy, Like if everyone was just happy
Speaker 1: about it, it wouldn't have felt as as real or
Speaker 1: high stakes, I think, and her being the character who
Speaker 1: struggled with it enabled you know, Haley's parents to then
Speaker 1: be these supporters and oh my god, Huey lewis giving
Speaker 1: that speech at the end about you know, you can
Speaker 1: drive at sixteen, go to war at eighteen, drink it
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he goes on and on, and you know,
Speaker 1: how old do you have to be before your love
Speaker 1: is real? And I was just like, oh, what a
Speaker 1: sweet dad. And you know, if dev hadn't have had
Speaker 1: a terrible reaction, then that wouldn't have Maybe it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been necessary, but it might not have as meaningful either.
Speaker 1: I loved Bess Armstrong and Huey Lewis in this episode
Speaker 1: so much, them snuggling with her with Haley on her
Speaker 1: bed when she comes home. Um, great parenting advice. I
Speaker 1: loved the way that they cuddled and snuggled and we're like,
Speaker 1: we are here for you. But also, you're you chose
Speaker 1: this and you gotta fly the fly the coop. You're
Speaker 1: you're done with being the baby now. Um, we really
Speaker 1: see where Hayley got her ability to set great boundaries,
Speaker 1: which I loved and I just they're so cool. They're like,
Speaker 1: those are the kind of parents I want to be.
Speaker 1: And by the way, best is someone who I've stayed
Speaker 1: in touch with and who I've had lunches and dinners with,
Speaker 1: and um, she is such a generous, kind, open hearted,
Speaker 1: smart woman, Like I couldn't ask for a better TV mom.
Speaker 1: That's somebody you can just get advice from and who's
Speaker 1: been through a lot in her own life and has
Speaker 1: seen all angles of this business. And I just love her.
Speaker 1: We love you best, the best. Come on the show,
Speaker 1: Come give us some of these please we can here
Speaker 1: a babe. They were great wish fulfillment parents after seeing
Speaker 1: all these kids with either broken homes or no parents
Speaker 1: at all. Um, to see that and to be able
Speaker 1: to just kind of like feel warm in it, it
Speaker 1: was so nice, and it made the end of the
Speaker 1: episode really painful to know that it's not gonna stick around.
Speaker 1: When they announced that they're leaving, it feels like a cheat.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we just got this really comfortable sweater
Speaker 1: and now we have to take it back, like noo um.
Speaker 1: Huey Lewis. By the way, So I got this T
Speaker 1: shirt in third grade, Huey Lewis and the News T shirt.
Speaker 1: It was the Sports Pages album and I wore that
Speaker 1: thing until it was see through. I mean absolutely Ce did,
Speaker 1: and I brought it to set while we were filming
Speaker 1: this episode and he's I was like, I feel like
Speaker 1: such a nerd, but will you sign my T shirt?
Speaker 1: I've had it since I was eight, And she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to teach you a trick real fast, and
Speaker 1: he he somehow like held the T shirt so it
Speaker 1: would be like super flat and tight so he could
Speaker 1: sign it. And he's like, this is an old tour trick.
Speaker 1: And it was just such a cool thing to see
Speaker 1: him go back into like lead singer mode, you know,
Speaker 1: to like go from dad mode to like so cool.
Speaker 1: He's a cool dude, man. Yeah, what a babe. What
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing opportunities our job affords us these strange
Speaker 1: moments with heroes, with heroes. Yes, it's really cool. Well
Speaker 1: to see him do the fake brook set up a
Speaker 1: good party. Let's talk about Brooks party tricks. Walk us there.
Speaker 1: They were very sweet. Okay, what did we do? Elevator?
Speaker 1: The elevator thing, Oh my god. I loved My first
Speaker 1: my first and favorite thing of the night actually was
Speaker 1: the board that Peyton did with Nathan and Haley's baby photos.
Speaker 1: That's super cute. Love that. That just killed me. And
Speaker 1: there was something so sweet about having those photos on
Speaker 1: that board and then the big photos of the two
Speaker 1: of them from the wedding on the stage and you
Speaker 1: sort of see the motion of a life and these
Speaker 1: people and I just loved it. But yeah, Brooks party
Speaker 1: tricks Brook and Peyton through a good party. Let's let's
Speaker 1: actually clarify that just made the mixtape. Baby, you know
Speaker 1: we we did good. We did good. But I loved
Speaker 1: like temporary tattoo stations with Nie Forever, and I loved
Speaker 1: you know, everyone make your elevator list and then if
Speaker 1: you if you have it in common. This is what's
Speaker 1: so funny. There is no brook Is. Like again, the
Speaker 1: men who wrote our show wrote this episode where Brooke
Speaker 1: is essentially violating Peyton's consent the entire episode, taking horrible
Speaker 1: pictures of her. It's such a terrible moby. It's the worst.
Speaker 1: And then weirdly, models are really good consent rule for
Speaker 1: a hook up, and it's like you're only allowed to
Speaker 1: hook up with someone if you each have each other
Speaker 1: on your list. And I was like, yeah, what is this?
Speaker 1: Like we're in, We're out, We're in. What is this?
Speaker 1: We're still figuring it out. Early two thousand's were dicey, man,
Speaker 1: we were still figuring it up. But you know, I
Speaker 1: will say, you want to kiss somebody in the elevator
Speaker 1: who wants to kiss you? I still stand by it.
Speaker 1: Have a good time. Hey, Hey, this spin the body
Speaker 1: was actually really cute. Level five, the Level five elevator
Speaker 1: that would always get stuck was ground zero for lots
Speaker 1: of debauchery in town. Did you ever because anybody in
Speaker 1: the elevator, really, I don't think. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I thought that elevator would get stuck all the time
Speaker 1: and you'd just be in there. Honestly, I think the
Speaker 1: only person I ever got stuck in that elevator with
Speaker 1: was you. So that's a missed opportunity. The guys. It
Speaker 1: was a big freight elevator. It was the elevator that
Speaker 1: they brought all the equipment up on, So they would
Speaker 1: load all the camera equipment, the lights and everything up
Speaker 1: on this freight elevator and then and then you know,
Speaker 1: buzz it up to the second floor. But I know
Speaker 1: it was always yeah, the trick elevator. No, Hillary is
Speaker 1: talking about the elevator at level five Downtown. Maybe we
Speaker 1: had five levels to get stuck. Oh, that elevator was
Speaker 1: really tiny. That was a scary elevator, but also apparently
Speaker 1: a sexy one so sexyvator. I will say, I did
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Joy, I love spin the body.
Speaker 1: I think that's actually very cute and how cute is mouth? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he's he's so sweet. And everyone's telling everyone who their
Speaker 1: elevator listed, and he says Brooke, And it's like they
Speaker 1: love each other so much that it's just a cute
Speaker 1: moment with them. It doesn't make it weird, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make it sexy, it doesn't. No one's annoyed. I I
Speaker 1: just keep coming back to like, man, this episode feels carbonated,
Speaker 1: like it's bubbly and alive. We had the River Court
Speaker 1: boys back, you know, I was just gonna say that,
Speaker 1: finally we got Vaughan got V eight spray cheese off
Speaker 1: of Antoine's shoulder. That's the best thing anyone's ever done
Speaker 1: on our show. It was brilliant. Yeah, they add so
Speaker 1: much to it. And to see all like the basketball
Speaker 1: players at the party, to see our cheerleading friends dancing
Speaker 1: like Bevin being and Daniella and she's a good dancer,
Speaker 1: She's she's a good party girl, Bev. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: she's still got it too. So this anniversary party is
Speaker 1: gonna be freaking off the chain. Um Whitey showing up
Speaker 1: at the party was very um and bringing a baby
Speaker 1: gift so inappropriate. Oh, my god. Honestly though, I was like, see, look,
Speaker 1: it's not just broken thinks. But by the way, you
Speaker 1: did a very good job of when you realize that
Speaker 1: the Joy is really not pregnant, Haley is not pregnant
Speaker 1: of kind of that realization like, oh, people actually just
Speaker 1: love each other and don't get you know, sideswiped into situations.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, really nice moment. I loved that moment between us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Haley's Haley is trying to like make something makes
Speaker 1: sense to Brooke, and Brooke is realizing that there doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be a device or a gimmick, and she's
Speaker 1: never had that model for her and that's certainly not
Speaker 1: you know what she went through with Lucas and Peyton
Speaker 1: and that letter that they and so it's it's it's
Speaker 1: such a short scene between us, but it's really really touching.
Speaker 1: You guys were both really good at this um keeping
Speaker 1: the there was always no matter what was going on,
Speaker 1: you know, with Peyton, it was the the tough, hard
Speaker 1: rye exterior. With Brooke it was the bubbly excitement, pushing
Speaker 1: the buttons exterior. But you always kept the fragility of
Speaker 1: the little girl and what these even as you were women,
Speaker 1: and when we jumped ahead four years. Both of you
Speaker 1: are always really good at being able to switch those
Speaker 1: moments from whatever the facade was into the real vulnerability. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that made
Speaker 1: your character so interesting, that that you just never knew
Speaker 1: at any moment that fragility could pop up to the surface. Well, Joy,
Speaker 1: you're good at that too. Your low tier in this
Speaker 1: episode during h Lewis's toast, was like the killer, that
Speaker 1: was the killer. But don't you guys feel like that
Speaker 1: in real life? Like, honestly, I don't know what thinking
Speaker 1: that I've gotten eleven year old son and I have.
Speaker 1: I've been having all these conversations with him, and there's
Speaker 1: sometimes where I feel like we're the same age, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like on the inside, I
Speaker 1: still feel like I'm a middle schooler, and so that
Speaker 1: little girl thing still pops up in real life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that's the reality for
Speaker 1: so many of us, is you know, you get older
Speaker 1: and you start to learn like what what all the
Speaker 1: sort of teenagers and younger versions of yourself that you
Speaker 1: still carry are And you're like, oh wow, I kind
Speaker 1: of have to pay. Aren't all these versions of myself
Speaker 1: so I can be an adult and so I can
Speaker 1: be a real parent, and so you know, the list
Speaker 1: goes on, and yeah, I feel that I still sometimes
Speaker 1: sit and go into that young girl who goes, is
Speaker 1: it me to what? You're the one who's not supposed
Speaker 1: to be here? Am I in trouble? Like? And I do.
Speaker 1: I think that's that I don't know that piece of
Speaker 1: us that maybe we carry forever. Well. The secret of
Speaker 1: the universe is that the grown ups don't know the answers,
Speaker 1: and Karen says that. Karen says, I have no roadmap
Speaker 1: for you, Lucas, I'm figuring it out myself, and I
Speaker 1: think that's where I'm at in my life right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's no map, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: I mean, we have all these paths of people who
Speaker 1: have gone before us where you you and you find
Speaker 1: patterns where you're like, okay, eventually A plus B plus
Speaker 1: C is going to equal X. And so we know
Speaker 1: that pretty much no matter who you are, you are
Speaker 1: in life, if you go down these roads, it's not
Speaker 1: going to lead to something great. Or if you go
Speaker 1: down these other roads, this is the pattern of success
Speaker 1: for a lot of drugs is what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what, That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just say no. But unless it's mushrooms, so we'll get
Speaker 1: back to that. You're welcome. But but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there is no roadmap for you. I mean there's a
Speaker 1: there's a general sense of like, here's the direction if
Speaker 1: you if you go east, you're gonna go east, but
Speaker 1: there's no specific like there's a compass, not a map
Speaker 1: figuring it out. We've got a compass. It's a compass,
Speaker 1: not a map. There you go. Do we want to
Speaker 1: answer some questions? Yeah? Actually I love this, Tiana asked.
Speaker 1: And this does feel incredibly appropriate given today's chat. Would
Speaker 1: you react more like Dan and Deb or like Hayley's
Speaker 1: parents if your child told you they wanted to get
Speaker 1: married at a young age. Oh, this is my worst nightmare? Yeah, which,
Speaker 1: which unless I really liked the kid, which one of
Speaker 1: my kid. Because here's the deal. If someone thinks they
Speaker 1: can handle my daughter, congratulations. I tell everybody. I'm like,
Speaker 1: she is the greatest weapon I've ever created in my life,
Speaker 1: Like she is payback for everything because she is so
Speaker 1: strong and so ferocious. So if someone thinks they can
Speaker 1: handle George Morgan, good luck. Um yeah, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: definitely be best in that situation. But I totally understand Debeah.
Speaker 1: My son is such a sensitive animal, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: she had those moments with Nathan when he was a
Speaker 1: little boy, you know, and that's what she's She's not
Speaker 1: seen older Nathan, She's seen baby Nathan, the kids she
Speaker 1: was looking at that picture, of course. I mean I
Speaker 1: think about that, like the first thing that comes to
Speaker 1: mind is anxiety, and the second thing that comes to
Speaker 1: mind is me thinking, well, your prefrontal cortex isn't done
Speaker 1: developing until you're twenty six, So no, you have to
Speaker 1: wait until at least take it from those of us
Speaker 1: who were idiots in our early twenties, just wait until
Speaker 1: your twenties, Like ring you can have what I'll send
Speaker 1: you somewhere on a trap. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: it gives me a lot of anxiety. But then, and
Speaker 1: I think I told this story last week, like I
Speaker 1: look at my my sweet cousin and she's blissfully happy,
Speaker 1: and you know they got married in their early twenties,
Speaker 1: So I all I know is that I don't know
Speaker 1: jook At Romeo and Juliet. I mean, you know their
Speaker 1: parents were totally disapproving and they did teenagers do they
Speaker 1: want to do? They find a way? So I think
Speaker 1: that's where it comes into knowing your kid and knowing
Speaker 1: what your limits are with their independence and where you know,
Speaker 1: at what point do you know that they're going to
Speaker 1: need an ally more than they need um your strong
Speaker 1: word or your discipline. So I think I mean my
Speaker 1: knowing my kid, I probably would come in real strong,
Speaker 1: but just to like to be really clear about how
Speaker 1: I feel. But then I would also have to come
Speaker 1: around because I don't want her like just running off
Speaker 1: and disappear. You know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if she's going to choose what she's going to choose,
Speaker 1: she's going to need my help. She's going to need
Speaker 1: me to be an ally for her as things progress.
Speaker 1: Can we just make a pact right now that if
Speaker 1: that happens to any of us, like we just run
Speaker 1: to Joy's house and let her make us a very
Speaker 1: stiff drink, or like if it if it's you, will
Speaker 1: just run to you and just bring all the liquor.
Speaker 1: You're in charge bring at all um. Alicia asks how
Speaker 1: did you prepare for the scenes where you had to
Speaker 1: show emotion and cry and also does it take a
Speaker 1: while to come out of the deep emotion afterwards? You
Speaker 1: guys have anything to say? I mean, I I don't,
Speaker 1: I just I just cry. I don't know, I I
Speaker 1: It's kind of what we were talking about before, where
Speaker 1: the fragility of life and the things that um the
Speaker 1: grounded nous of the things that you feel the weight
Speaker 1: of as a human throughout your day or your life,
Speaker 1: that you just carry those with you And that's the
Speaker 1: gift of a storyteller. I guess we're able to access
Speaker 1: those points and release them ah upon command generally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sophie and I are both cancers. We cry all the time.
Speaker 1: You know. The answers are just like super emotional people.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that my body was keeping score of
Speaker 1: all the crying that I was doing on One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: And Cheryl Lee, who plays Ellie later in the show,
Speaker 1: warned me about this. She was like, yes, she was like,
Speaker 1: your brain knows that it's bulls, your body doesn't. And
Speaker 1: she's like, and you're doing all sorts of crazy stuff
Speaker 1: on this show. You know, and we hadn't even hit
Speaker 1: Pete crazy yet. Um. And yeah, it's like my body,
Speaker 1: my sense memories of being on the show our trauma
Speaker 1: because there was just like tears and tears and tears,
Speaker 1: and you know, your body releases chemicals, your brain releases
Speaker 1: chemicals when you're going through all of that. So I
Speaker 1: tried to counter it by being super fun party girl
Speaker 1: outside of work. I think I was just really tired
Speaker 1: all the time. You can only stay up till two
Speaker 1: in the morning, so many nights in a row, um,
Speaker 1: before all the catches up. Yeah. Yeah, it is a
Speaker 1: really interesting thing to understand the kind of physiology of
Speaker 1: your body and the toll that this work takes. You know,
Speaker 1: people think being an actor is glamorous, and it's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of physical work and oftentimes a lot of
Speaker 1: emotional torture. And we love it because we love to
Speaker 1: tell stories. I mean, you said it, joy. We we
Speaker 1: are storytellers. It is it is who we are. You
Speaker 1: you are or you're not. And and for me, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was younger and had a lot
Speaker 1: more anxiety about being able to perform on command, being
Speaker 1: a good girl, doing the good job. It if that
Speaker 1: would be the thing that would kind of impede me.
Speaker 1: So I would try to take time. I like to
Speaker 1: make playlists for different projects, and I'd try to like
Speaker 1: get away from the noise, you know, the joking on set,
Speaker 1: like put some headphones in, like be in a space.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I think as I've gotten older
Speaker 1: and been to more therapy and unpacked just more things,
Speaker 1: and given myself more permission to feel how I feel
Speaker 1: rather than how I think everyone else in the room
Speaker 1: expects me to feel or behave all the time, it's
Speaker 1: much easier to let caveat with good writing. So let
Speaker 1: the writing take me to the place. Because good writing
Speaker 1: you have to your point. You know, whether it's cancerrian
Speaker 1: or just comes from empathy, you have a response to
Speaker 1: it because it feels really grounded and something real and
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think the thing I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out is is how do you process the after effect?
Speaker 1: How do you get that stuff out of your body?
Speaker 1: You know, animals and the wild go through trauma and
Speaker 1: then they lay on the ground and they shake really
Speaker 1: violently for like ten or fifteen minutes, and then they
Speaker 1: get up and they hop or run away like humans,
Speaker 1: don't do that, So how do we get it out
Speaker 1: of us? I think this is probably why I was
Speaker 1: like the healthiest when I was also like dancing regularly
Speaker 1: when I was in the ASA, but you know, like
Speaker 1: on my last job, to your point, Hillary, like I
Speaker 1: was in Peyton world, it was like trauma, sadness, death, murder, violence,
Speaker 1: crying all the time, and I couldn't I couldn't talk
Speaker 1: to people. I couldn't be touched by strangers. Somebody grabbed
Speaker 1: me once on the street, like grabbed me by the
Speaker 1: back of the arm, not meaning to be creepy, but
Speaker 1: like I turned around an elbowed guy almost in the face,
Speaker 1: Like it was such a knee jerk reaction. Did he
Speaker 1: still want a picture? And he was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I mean, he was at least a
Speaker 1: wise enough person to be like, I really shouldn't have
Speaker 1: done that, But it took me a long time to
Speaker 1: get that stuff out of my body. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like listeners at home, do you
Speaker 1: have any any tips for movement medicine for us gals,
Speaker 1: anything we can share with the rest of the audience.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna have to dance it off honestly that
Speaker 1: I'm ready for dance it off. We're going to Joyce,
Speaker 1: we're bringing the booze. We're having a whether any of
Speaker 1: our children want to get married hily or not. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's why we appreciate these kinds of episodes
Speaker 1: where there is a lot of joy, like we're having
Speaker 1: like a ton of fun in these episodes, because we
Speaker 1: know we know that they were pleasant to film. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a good time. So thanks for those questions. Great,
Speaker 1: y'all want to spend a weeks guys, I think we
Speaker 1: should's that wheel come on now? Most likely to get it?
Speaker 1: What do we got? Moved to a foreign country? Who's
Speaker 1: most likely to move to a most Karen moved to Italy?
Speaker 1: And then didn't she go yeah, yeah with with with
Speaker 1: Kieren Andy? What was his name? Andy hot Andy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah huh? And do that accent again, joy on my
Speaker 1: Australian accent. Well it's not right, No, I can't do
Speaker 1: it when I'm when I'm hold on British. It's so
Speaker 1: easy to creme. You got to get some coffee in
Speaker 1: the South creme and you know I've got these Christmas cookies,
Speaker 1: But you can't can't really enjoy Christmas and the hate
Speaker 1: can be a kin. I've never been to Australian in
Speaker 1: the winter. In the winter, that's a sexy. No, I'd
Speaker 1: still kiss you. I like it. It's really close. Joy.
Speaker 1: I would say, you're the person in real life who
Speaker 1: would move to a form like I can see you
Speaker 1: going to live in Austria. Yeah, you know, going to
Speaker 1: live in France, like wherever you were learning Italian? Weren't
Speaker 1: you French? That was funny. I have I know a
Speaker 1: little Italian, but yeah, I love languages and I'm I
Speaker 1: love I love just different cultures. I'm so interested in
Speaker 1: the way other people live and how they interact with
Speaker 1: each other and the earth and spirituality. And I almost
Speaker 1: didn't come back from Italy this summer. I was like,
Speaker 1: you guys should just but you had the most magical
Speaker 1: trip ever, like you had like a fairy tale. It
Speaker 1: was great, but it's like, you know, so much of
Speaker 1: my face Emily's there, and I was just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, maybe we should just do this. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll like makee if there's a soap opera in Italy
Speaker 1: that wants to hire the three of us, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I would love call us Let's go. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: want to want to wear cool outfits and all black
Speaker 1: and somebody send us on a drink coffee all the
Speaker 1: European tour. I want to drink coffee all day and
Speaker 1: wine all night and eat pasta. You guys, this was
Speaker 1: a fun episode. I love your faces. So if I
Speaker 1: want you to go to sleep and get some red
Speaker 1: to enjoy, you don't enjoy being home? Yeah? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy to be home. You know who's coming over
Speaker 1: today who I've never met before, Kimbra What. She's such
Speaker 1: a Please give her a hug for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know where, but you can hug her
Speaker 1: for me too. I've known her for a long time.
Speaker 1: She's an angel and yeah for years. Yeah, we m god.
Speaker 1: I think we met the summer I turned thirty. She's
Speaker 1: the best. She's really good friends with Kenny who directed
Speaker 1: our music video. Yeah, he directed video. One of my
Speaker 1: best best friends. And she is a huge one. Sweet.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. I love that she's brilliant. I mean
Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan of her music for many,
Speaker 1: many years, so many years, like truly truly a genius. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Please write us a song. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: needs to finish our theme song. That's what she got.
Speaker 1: She's the perfect person. Day right, That's how we're going
Speaker 1: to kick off the new year. Well, we hope everybody's
Speaker 1: getting ready for the holiday season and having Mary Mary time,
Speaker 1: and don't don't work too hard, you know, enjoy the
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the holidays, and we'll see you
Speaker 1: back here next week for Season two, Episode three, near
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