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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama drawn MC, Queen's Drama Queens. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys, welcome back. We just watched Welcome Back Episode two.

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Speaker 1: Truth doesn't make a noise. We're great. Episode good. Really,

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Speaker 1: I loved this episode. Loved this episode. Like y'all, I

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Speaker 1: Just to call it all out, Sophia six, so Fia

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Speaker 1: and Enjoy have been traveling all over the freaking planet

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Speaker 1: But yeah, all the things is a lot. So what

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Speaker 1: are you juggling right now? Walking through it? You were

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Speaker 1: getting like blood drawn yesterday? Oh man, my morning yesterday

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Speaker 1: in the downstairs of Trick and like it's been freezing

427
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: in there and drinking gallons and gallons of coffee in

428
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: that place. Yeah, yeah, what were your favorites? I mean

429
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: Trick for sure. And then I will say, you know,

430
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: I had such an attachment to Karen's Cafe because Karen's

431
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: became close over Bros. I loved the River Court, but

432
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: you never knew what you were going to get, and

433
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy to move around because of the gravel

434
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: around the trailers and the mud and the mosquitoes and

435
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: the cold. So I loved the location as a visually,

436
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: I loved it. But you know what I did like,

437
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: I liked whenever we shot outside downtown, walking around in

438
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: the streets. I was just going to say that front

439
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: and market, like whenever we got to do stuff at

440
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: those little shops or down by the loved I always

441
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: loved that, and then we could always run into edge

442
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: of urge. We we'd like go to Phoenix and get

443
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: a hummus plate. I loved Yes, I loved it. But

444
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about great about Trick too, is

445
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,239
Speaker 1: that you always kind of knew what you were going

446
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: to get because they had they figured eventually they figured

447
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: out the temperature situation. So they had a c pumping

448
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: into the building on hot days, and they had heat

449
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: coming in on the cold and even Yeah, and on

450
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: the cold days, actually, you pack enough people in there,

451
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: you just shut the doors and you don't have to

452
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: turn anything on. Everybody just body heat warms up the

453
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: whole place. Wait, whose body heat were you absorbing? Enjoy

454
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: I was always cold. Yeah, I don't know. I guess

455
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: Trick was probably my favorite too. I really enjoyed being there.

456
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: We just we have such special memories there and I

457
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: don't know, like you were saying that that feeling of

458
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: your memory and it's like your memory comes out of

459
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: the back of your head and your heart is swelling

460
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: up and there it's like already here. It's very emotional

461
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: and I don't know, the seeing how it started is

462
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: so sweet. We have to talk about the fake cough

463
00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: because trick trick begins with this amazing Brooke and Peyton

464
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: joke and the call back to the fake off at

465
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: the party that killed me. You guys, I loved it.

466
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: I think you talked about how I really like a

467
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Brooke and Peyton two on one, and we do it

468
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show. You know, we're yeah,

469
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: you clearly see the footing of this friendship. It's like, okay,

470
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: like we're on one side, you're on the other. Lucas

471
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: is definitely on the other side of this. I are

472
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: so out of his when he's not even wearing real shoes. Um,

473
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: I mean, the flip flops were killing me. But by

474
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: the way, I remember chat about flip flops in real life. Like, bro,

475
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: you're on a film set, you gotta wear real shoes.

476
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: They dropped all the time, you know. Um, But back then,

477
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: like flip flops were cool. Remember everybody had like rainbows. Yeah,

478
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: especially in a beach town. Remember the huge Um so

479
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: I love that. The only thing we could think of

480
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: to get out of this letter burning conversation with Lucas

481
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: was a fake call. Peyton is not a clever girl. No,

482
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: but it No, I no I disagree. I love it.

483
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: It's such a funny. It's such a classic comedic device,

484
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: and and you get with no exposition that it's a

485
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: joke between the two of them. And it's so funny

486
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: to me that it's like that's the thing you did

487
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: or the fake call, and then so Brookie uses it

488
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: on Peyton at the end, you're just like, oh man,

489
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: it can't it just knt? But how awkward? You know,

490
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: it's like they call him the nameless one or has

491
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: he done? What's he done? Really? That's that bad? I

492
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like he's apologized three hundred times. How does he

493
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: know that you didn't read the letter? Well, he doesn't

494
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: know till the end, but like, just because we're being

495
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: so awkward about it, I think he can just see

496
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: that we're like, yeah, no, the letter was fine, and

497
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: he's like no, but even asking the question in the

498
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: first place, like why would he know to like, what

499
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: was it that was giving it away that he went

500
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: You guys didn't read the letter. We didn't cry joy,

501
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: We didn't cry because his words moved our hearts. You

502
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: guys want to talk about Devin dan Man. They are

503
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: projecting oh yeah, big time. They are just projecting onto

504
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: Nathan and Haley so much and godes Dan is too.

505
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: For our listeners. When we watched the show together, we're

506
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: all in different places, and you know, we all hit

507
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: play at the same time. So if you miss something,

508
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to be like, Okay, everybody stopped,

509
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: let me rewind, let me watch it again. You just

510
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: you just keep going. So I missed. I don't know.

511
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: My brain was distracted. What was the doctor saying about Dan?

512
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Why is he suddenly nice? What happened? Girl? He had

513
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: a heart attack. I mean, it wasn't like some sort

514
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: of brain I feel like he was trying to say,

515
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: there's some something happened where now he's like can't remember,

516
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: he's got some kind of amnesia or he's got some

517
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: kind of something. It's teen drama doctor talks, so if

518
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: he plays a doctor on TV, tell us so let

519
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: me let me tell you what the way I took it,

520
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a little unclear as well,

521
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: But I thought deb was basically like, what is going

522
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: on with him? And he was saying, well, his disposition

523
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: is positive and whatever, and you know he was saying

524
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: all these words you've never heard Dan Scott described as

525
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: so much to the point that I can't remember what

526
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: they were and I didn't put them on my notes,

527
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: but basically saying like he's empathetic and and happy, and

528
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: she's just just like what, like is this gonna last? Um?

529
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: You know, everyone is like did he have a stroke?

530
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Like we're very confused, confused and even that, but like

531
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: now that hearing Whitey was like trying to get Keith

532
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: to go back and try and reconcile again. That was

533
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: so out of character. I didn't understand that part. I

534
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: understand why it doesn't everybody just tell Dan to screw GHO,

535
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: screw hmself and leave. It'll leave everybody away. I love

536
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: feisty Joy Joy Joy. You have had it up to

537
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: your eyeballs with toxic relationships and you are like out

538
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: in the world with a flamethrower, just like take it down,

539
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: get out the Dan of it all. Like we've seen

540
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Dan drinking whiskey out of his glass in every episode ever,

541
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 1: and in this episode he's like eating hospital jello. You know,

542
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: like every single choice was to kind of emasculate and um, yeah,

543
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: to like defang him. Yeah, even seeing him in the

544
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: hospital gown at the beginning we talked about was like

545
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: a choice because he's really vulnerable and like, um, I

546
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: like seeing Dan on his heels, But I also know

547
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: it's bullshit because the second Deb comes in and he's crying,

548
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: He's like, baby, we got this. We're gonna call it together.

549
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: You called it, you said in the early part of

550
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: the episode, you said, he's giving me major Anakin Skywalker

551
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: vibes where he goes dark and then when and when

552
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: he's holding Deb and he says, we'll get our son back.

553
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just your father. He's Anakin Skywalker. Yeah. Sure. Oh.

554
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Joy called it when Keith goes to visit Karen because

555
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: Joys like, this energy is different. Um. Yeah, there was

556
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: some new chemistry there, chemistry. Maybe it was like maybe

557
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: it was the fact that Keith had allowed himself to

558
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: really like well, not that he's not slept with anybody

559
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: else in the last thirty years, but I guess it

560
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: was fifteen years. Um, I don't know, but there was

561
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: something about it seemed like maybe pheromones leaving town. Yeah,

562
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: just taking a stand. Yeah, suddenly he feels a little

563
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: more free and he's not quite so puppy doggish with Karen.

564
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: That is much more appealing, and she and I loved

565
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: those shots again, Billy Dixon with the great directing of

566
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: shooting Karen low beneath when you're over Keith's shoulder looking

567
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: down at Karen, and then when you're behind karen shoulder

568
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: looking up at Keith and you can see the tall

569
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: masculine vibe from him and that small feminine vibe from her.

570
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: It was just it was a nice It was this

571
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: quick scene, but it was nice. It was interesting, it

572
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: was flirty, and it's a really interesting thing to be

573
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: able to observe because you realize that, you know, they

574
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: always made us all stand on apple boxes, so it

575
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: would be easy to shoot around, like we were all

576
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: the same height, and none of us are as tall

577
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: as those boys. We actually had very tall boys on

578
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: our show. That's rare, very tall, super rare. It is

579
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: really rare. Yeah, So there was something really interesting in that,

580
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: in that dynamic, like I want to look little. I

581
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: always look like Lurch. I'm always yeah, I want to

582
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: look little. Damn it, someone give the Bambi. I. It's

583
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: just interesting because Keith in a way has set a boundary,

584
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, he finally established a boundary between him and Karen,

585
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: and Karen sees him differently now and then, speaking of

586
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: boundaries and flamethrowers, Hayley sets a gauntlet of a boundary

587
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: down with dev and I'll do you remember filming that scene?

588
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: I do in a I do in a way. I

589
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: don't remember the exactly any of the behind the scenes stuff,

590
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I love that scene. I love

591
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: that she's willing to be extending all of branch, be nice,

592
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: be generous up to a point um, but then she's

593
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: fierce and defend defends her family, and I loved that

594
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: about her. Joy. Do you know what I remember about

595
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: filming that scene? What it was one of the first

596
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: times I remember you saying we need to have a

597
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: conversation about this because you were upset that Nathan wasn't

598
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: backing Haley up while we were filming. You were like, hackme,

599
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: Nathan doesn't say like anything to his mother, And I

600
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: remember thinking, like, yes, you don't remember that. You were like,

601
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: You're like, he's really just going to stand there and

602
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: make and just like watch his mother is like berating

603
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: his new wife, Like that is gross. And I remember thinking, girl,

604
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: why did they make us do all the work? Why

605
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: did they do that? And I was so happy that

606
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: you said that, And I don't know that you necessarily

607
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: won that fight. And I think, you know, Haley looked

608
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: strong in this episode standing up for herself, but I

609
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: also really value that you were like, no, it's not

610
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: on me to put your mother into her place. This

611
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: is a US situation. So for all of you at home,

612
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, I remember that fight and I liked it.

613
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I love that. It would have been nice, actually, and

614
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: that could have easily been done. They could have shot

615
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: a quick glance where I look at Nathan and he

616
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything, and then I'm like okay, and then

617
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: I jump in, or and then they have a fight

618
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: about it later. Or they could have shot a moment

619
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: where Nathan starts to talk and I put just touch

620
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: him with my hand and I'm like, I'd like to

621
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: address this and then I handle it. But just something

622
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: to where Nathan not just standing there like a Putts.

623
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: But you know, they're teenagers. He is a boy, and

624
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: we we said that during the episode. You know, Deb's like,

625
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: he's not a man, he's a boy. And that was

626
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: probably the truest line for me in this little Native

627
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: because as the mother of a boy, no one better

628
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: touch him ever ever. Ever. Um, I thought Barbara was

629
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: handling all that really well, by the way, because it

630
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: was nice to see after how much we talked about

631
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: in the first season, how much she had everything together

632
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: and was handling everything and it was starting to spin

633
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: out towards the end of season one, but she was

634
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: such a beacon of a woman with her together in

635
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: the first season, So to see everything kind of spinning

636
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: out and really seeing all the cracks start to show,

637
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: I really liked that. And I thought barb as an

638
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: actress handled that really well. It's nice to see that. Yeah,

639
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: And and it is really nice too. I do think

640
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: that um, her reaction grounds the experience, and it also

641
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: enables everyone else's joy, Like if everyone was just happy

642
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: about it, it wouldn't have felt as as real or

643
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: high stakes, I think, and her being the character who

644
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: struggled with it enabled you know, Haley's parents to then

645
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: be these supporters and oh my god, Huey lewis giving

646
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: that speech at the end about you know, you can

647
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: drive at sixteen, go to war at eighteen, drink it

648
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he goes on and on, and you know,

649
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: how old do you have to be before your love

650
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: is real? And I was just like, oh, what a

651
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: sweet dad. And you know, if dev hadn't have had

652
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: a terrible reaction, then that wouldn't have Maybe it wouldn't

653
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: have been necessary, but it might not have as meaningful either.

654
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: I loved Bess Armstrong and Huey Lewis in this episode

655
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: so much, them snuggling with her with Haley on her

656
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: bed when she comes home. Um, great parenting advice. I

657
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: loved the way that they cuddled and snuggled and we're like,

658
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: we are here for you. But also, you're you chose

659
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: this and you gotta fly the fly the coop. You're

660
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: you're done with being the baby now. Um, we really

661
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: see where Hayley got her ability to set great boundaries,

662
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: which I loved and I just they're so cool. They're like,

663
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: those are the kind of parents I want to be.

664
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, best is someone who I've stayed

665
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: in touch with and who I've had lunches and dinners with,

666
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: and um, she is such a generous, kind, open hearted,

667
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: smart woman, Like I couldn't ask for a better TV mom.

668
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: That's somebody you can just get advice from and who's

669
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: been through a lot in her own life and has

670
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: seen all angles of this business. And I just love her.

671
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: We love you best, the best. Come on the show,

672
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: Come give us some of these please we can here

673
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: a babe. They were great wish fulfillment parents after seeing

674
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: all these kids with either broken homes or no parents

675
00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: at all. Um, to see that and to be able

676
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: to just kind of like feel warm in it, it

677
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: was so nice, and it made the end of the

678
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: episode really painful to know that it's not gonna stick around.

679
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: When they announced that they're leaving, it feels like a cheat.

680
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we just got this really comfortable sweater

681
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: and now we have to take it back, like noo um.

682
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: Huey Lewis. By the way, So I got this T

683
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: shirt in third grade, Huey Lewis and the News T shirt.

684
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: It was the Sports Pages album and I wore that

685
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: thing until it was see through. I mean absolutely Ce did,

686
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: and I brought it to set while we were filming

687
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: this episode and he's I was like, I feel like

688
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: such a nerd, but will you sign my T shirt?

689
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: I've had it since I was eight, And she was like,

690
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to teach you a trick real fast, and

691
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: he he somehow like held the T shirt so it

692
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: would be like super flat and tight so he could

693
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: sign it. And he's like, this is an old tour trick.

694
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: And it was just such a cool thing to see

695
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: him go back into like lead singer mode, you know,

696
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: to like go from dad mode to like so cool.

697
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: He's a cool dude, man. Yeah, what a babe. What

698
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing opportunities our job affords us these strange

699
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: moments with heroes, with heroes. Yes, it's really cool. Well

700
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: to see him do the fake brook set up a

701
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: good party. Let's talk about Brooks party tricks. Walk us there.

702
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: They were very sweet. Okay, what did we do? Elevator?

703
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: The elevator thing, Oh my god. I loved My first

704
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: my first and favorite thing of the night actually was

705
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: the board that Peyton did with Nathan and Haley's baby photos.

706
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: That's super cute. Love that. That just killed me. And

707
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: there was something so sweet about having those photos on

708
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: that board and then the big photos of the two

709
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: of them from the wedding on the stage and you

710
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: sort of see the motion of a life and these

711
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: people and I just loved it. But yeah, Brooks party

712
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: tricks Brook and Peyton through a good party. Let's let's

713
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: actually clarify that just made the mixtape. Baby, you know

714
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: we we did good. We did good. But I loved

715
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: like temporary tattoo stations with Nie Forever, and I loved

716
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, everyone make your elevator list and then if

717
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: you if you have it in common. This is what's

718
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: so funny. There is no brook Is. Like again, the

719
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: men who wrote our show wrote this episode where Brooke

720
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: is essentially violating Peyton's consent the entire episode, taking horrible

721
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: pictures of her. It's such a terrible moby. It's the worst.

722
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: And then weirdly, models are really good consent rule for

723
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: a hook up, and it's like you're only allowed to

724
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: hook up with someone if you each have each other

725
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: on your list. And I was like, yeah, what is this?

726
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: Like we're in, We're out, We're in. What is this?

727
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: We're still figuring it out. Early two thousand's were dicey, man,

728
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: we were still figuring it up. But you know, I

729
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: will say, you want to kiss somebody in the elevator

730
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: who wants to kiss you? I still stand by it.

731
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Have a good time. Hey, Hey, this spin the body

732
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: was actually really cute. Level five, the Level five elevator

733
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: that would always get stuck was ground zero for lots

734
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: of debauchery in town. Did you ever because anybody in

735
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: the elevator, really, I don't think. I didn't know that.

736
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I thought that elevator would get stuck all the time

737
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: and you'd just be in there. Honestly, I think the

738
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: only person I ever got stuck in that elevator with

739
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: was you. So that's a missed opportunity. The guys. It

740
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: was a big freight elevator. It was the elevator that

741
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: they brought all the equipment up on, So they would

742
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: load all the camera equipment, the lights and everything up

743
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: on this freight elevator and then and then you know,

744
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: buzz it up to the second floor. But I know

745
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: it was always yeah, the trick elevator. No, Hillary is

746
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: talking about the elevator at level five Downtown. Maybe we

747
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: had five levels to get stuck. Oh, that elevator was

748
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: really tiny. That was a scary elevator, but also apparently

749
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: a sexy one so sexyvator. I will say, I did

750
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Joy, I love spin the body.

751
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: I think that's actually very cute and how cute is mouth? Yes, yes, yes,

752
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: he's he's so sweet. And everyone's telling everyone who their

753
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: elevator listed, and he says Brooke, And it's like they

754
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: love each other so much that it's just a cute

755
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: moment with them. It doesn't make it weird, it doesn't

756
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: make it sexy, it doesn't. No one's annoyed. I I

757
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: just keep coming back to like, man, this episode feels carbonated,

758
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: like it's bubbly and alive. We had the River Court

759
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: boys back, you know, I was just gonna say that,

760
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: finally we got Vaughan got V eight spray cheese off

761
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: of Antoine's shoulder. That's the best thing anyone's ever done

762
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: on our show. It was brilliant. Yeah, they add so

763
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: much to it. And to see all like the basketball

764
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: players at the party, to see our cheerleading friends dancing

765
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: like Bevin being and Daniella and she's a good dancer,

766
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: She's she's a good party girl, Bev. Yeah, I think

767
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: she's still got it too. So this anniversary party is

768
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna be freaking off the chain. Um Whitey showing up

769
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: at the party was very um and bringing a baby

770
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: gift so inappropriate. Oh, my god. Honestly though, I was like, see, look,

771
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: it's not just broken thinks. But by the way, you

772
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: did a very good job of when you realize that

773
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: the Joy is really not pregnant, Haley is not pregnant

774
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: of kind of that realization like, oh, people actually just

775
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: love each other and don't get you know, sideswiped into situations.

776
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: It's crazy, really nice moment. I loved that moment between us. Yeah,

777
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: because Haley's Haley is trying to like make something makes

778
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: sense to Brooke, and Brooke is realizing that there doesn't

779
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: have to be a device or a gimmick, and she's

780
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: never had that model for her and that's certainly not

781
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: you know what she went through with Lucas and Peyton

782
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: and that letter that they and so it's it's it's

783
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: such a short scene between us, but it's really really touching.

784
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: You guys were both really good at this um keeping

785
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: the there was always no matter what was going on,

786
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, with Peyton, it was the the tough, hard

787
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: rye exterior. With Brooke it was the bubbly excitement, pushing

788
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: the buttons exterior. But you always kept the fragility of

789
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: the little girl and what these even as you were women,

790
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and when we jumped ahead four years. Both of you

791
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: are always really good at being able to switch those

792
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: moments from whatever the facade was into the real vulnerability. Um,

793
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that made

794
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: your character so interesting, that that you just never knew

795
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: at any moment that fragility could pop up to the surface. Well, Joy,

796
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: you're good at that too. Your low tier in this

797
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: episode during h Lewis's toast, was like the killer, that

798
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: was the killer. But don't you guys feel like that

799
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: in real life? Like, honestly, I don't know what thinking

800
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: that I've gotten eleven year old son and I have.

801
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I've been having all these conversations with him, and there's

802
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: sometimes where I feel like we're the same age, do

803
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like on the inside, I

804
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: still feel like I'm a middle schooler, and so that

805
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: little girl thing still pops up in real life. Yeah,

806
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that's the reality for

807
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: so many of us, is you know, you get older

808
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: and you start to learn like what what all the

809
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: sort of teenagers and younger versions of yourself that you

810
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: still carry are And you're like, oh wow, I kind

811
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: of have to pay. Aren't all these versions of myself

812
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: so I can be an adult and so I can

813
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: be a real parent, and so you know, the list

814
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: goes on, and yeah, I feel that I still sometimes

815
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: sit and go into that young girl who goes, is

816
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: it me to what? You're the one who's not supposed

817
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: to be here? Am I in trouble? Like? And I do.

818
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: I think that's that I don't know that piece of

819
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: us that maybe we carry forever. Well. The secret of

820
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: the universe is that the grown ups don't know the answers,

821
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: and Karen says that. Karen says, I have no roadmap

822
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: for you, Lucas, I'm figuring it out myself, and I

823
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: think that's where I'm at in my life right now.

824
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's no map, Like what are we doing?

825
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we have all these paths of people who

826
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: have gone before us where you you and you find

827
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: patterns where you're like, okay, eventually A plus B plus

828
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: C is going to equal X. And so we know

829
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: that pretty much no matter who you are, you are

830
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: in life, if you go down these roads, it's not

831
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: going to lead to something great. Or if you go

832
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: down these other roads, this is the pattern of success

833
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: for a lot of drugs is what I'm saying. You

834
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: know what, That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

835
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: Just say no. But unless it's mushrooms, so we'll get

836
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: back to that. You're welcome. But but yeah, you know,

837
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: there is no roadmap for you. I mean there's a

838
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: there's a general sense of like, here's the direction if

839
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: you if you go east, you're gonna go east, but

840
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: there's no specific like there's a compass, not a map

841
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: figuring it out. We've got a compass. It's a compass,

842
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: not a map. There you go. Do we want to

843
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: answer some questions? Yeah? Actually I love this, Tiana asked.

844
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: And this does feel incredibly appropriate given today's chat. Would

845
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: you react more like Dan and Deb or like Hayley's

846
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: parents if your child told you they wanted to get

847
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: married at a young age. Oh, this is my worst nightmare? Yeah, which,

848
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: which unless I really liked the kid, which one of

849
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: my kid. Because here's the deal. If someone thinks they

850
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: can handle my daughter, congratulations. I tell everybody. I'm like,

851
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: she is the greatest weapon I've ever created in my life,

852
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Like she is payback for everything because she is so

853
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: strong and so ferocious. So if someone thinks they can

854
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: handle George Morgan, good luck. Um yeah, yeah, I would

855
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: definitely be best in that situation. But I totally understand Debeah.

856
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: My son is such a sensitive animal, and I'm sure

857
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: she had those moments with Nathan when he was a

858
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: little boy, you know, and that's what she's She's not

859
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: seen older Nathan, She's seen baby Nathan, the kids she

860
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: was looking at that picture, of course. I mean I

861
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: think about that, like the first thing that comes to

862
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: mind is anxiety, and the second thing that comes to

863
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: mind is me thinking, well, your prefrontal cortex isn't done

864
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: developing until you're twenty six, So no, you have to

865
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: wait until at least take it from those of us

866
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: who were idiots in our early twenties, just wait until

867
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: your twenties, Like ring you can have what I'll send

868
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: you somewhere on a trap. I don't know, you know,

869
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: it gives me a lot of anxiety. But then, and

870
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: I think I told this story last week, like I

871
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: look at my my sweet cousin and she's blissfully happy,

872
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: and you know they got married in their early twenties,

873
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: So I all I know is that I don't know

874
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: jook At Romeo and Juliet. I mean, you know their

875
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: parents were totally disapproving and they did teenagers do they

876
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: want to do? They find a way? So I think

877
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: that's where it comes into knowing your kid and knowing

878
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: what your limits are with their independence and where you know,

879
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: at what point do you know that they're going to

880
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: need an ally more than they need um your strong

881
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: word or your discipline. So I think I mean my

882
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: knowing my kid, I probably would come in real strong,

883
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: but just to like to be really clear about how

884
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: I feel. But then I would also have to come

885
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: around because I don't want her like just running off

886
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: and disappear. You know, at the end of the day,

887
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: if she's going to choose what she's going to choose,

888
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: she's going to need my help. She's going to need

889
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: me to be an ally for her as things progress.

890
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: Can we just make a pact right now that if

891
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: that happens to any of us, like we just run

892
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: to Joy's house and let her make us a very

893
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: stiff drink, or like if it if it's you, will

894
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: just run to you and just bring all the liquor.

895
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: You're in charge bring at all um. Alicia asks how

896
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: did you prepare for the scenes where you had to

897
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: show emotion and cry and also does it take a

898
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: while to come out of the deep emotion afterwards? You

899
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: guys have anything to say? I mean, I I don't,

900
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: I just I just cry. I don't know, I I

901
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of what we were talking about before, where

902
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: the fragility of life and the things that um the

903
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: grounded nous of the things that you feel the weight

904
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: of as a human throughout your day or your life,

905
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: that you just carry those with you And that's the

906
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: gift of a storyteller. I guess we're able to access

907
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: those points and release them ah upon command generally. Yeah,

908
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: Sophie and I are both cancers. We cry all the time.

909
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: You know. The answers are just like super emotional people.

910
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: I didn't think that my body was keeping score of

911
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: all the crying that I was doing on One Tree Hill.

912
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: And Cheryl Lee, who plays Ellie later in the show,

913
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: warned me about this. She was like, yes, she was like,

914
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: your brain knows that it's bulls, your body doesn't. And

915
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: she's like, and you're doing all sorts of crazy stuff

916
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: on this show. You know, and we hadn't even hit

917
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Pete crazy yet. Um. And yeah, it's like my body,

918
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: my sense memories of being on the show our trauma

919
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: because there was just like tears and tears and tears,

920
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: and you know, your body releases chemicals, your brain releases

921
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: chemicals when you're going through all of that. So I

922
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: tried to counter it by being super fun party girl

923
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: outside of work. I think I was just really tired

924
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: all the time. You can only stay up till two

925
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: in the morning, so many nights in a row, um,

926
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: before all the catches up. Yeah. Yeah, it is a

927
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: really interesting thing to understand the kind of physiology of

928
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: your body and the toll that this work takes. You know,

929
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: people think being an actor is glamorous, and it's it's

930
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot of physical work and oftentimes a lot of

931
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: emotional torture. And we love it because we love to

932
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: tell stories. I mean, you said it, joy. We we

933
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: are storytellers. It is it is who we are. You

934
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: you are or you're not. And and for me, I think,

935
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, when I was younger and had a lot

936
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: more anxiety about being able to perform on command, being

937
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: a good girl, doing the good job. It if that

938
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: would be the thing that would kind of impede me.

939
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: So I would try to take time. I like to

940
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: make playlists for different projects, and I'd try to like

941
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: get away from the noise, you know, the joking on set,

942
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: like put some headphones in, like be in a space.

943
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I think as I've gotten older

944
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: and been to more therapy and unpacked just more things,

945
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: and given myself more permission to feel how I feel

946
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: rather than how I think everyone else in the room

947
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: expects me to feel or behave all the time, it's

948
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: much easier to let caveat with good writing. So let

949
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: the writing take me to the place. Because good writing

950
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: you have to your point. You know, whether it's cancerrian

951
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: or just comes from empathy, you have a response to

952
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: it because it feels really grounded and something real and

953
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think the thing I'm still trying to

954
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: figure out is is how do you process the after effect?

955
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: How do you get that stuff out of your body?

956
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: You know, animals and the wild go through trauma and

957
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: then they lay on the ground and they shake really

958
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: violently for like ten or fifteen minutes, and then they

959
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: get up and they hop or run away like humans,

960
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: don't do that, So how do we get it out

961
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: of us? I think this is probably why I was

962
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: like the healthiest when I was also like dancing regularly

963
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: when I was in the ASA, but you know, like

964
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: on my last job, to your point, Hillary, like I

965
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: was in Peyton world, it was like trauma, sadness, death, murder, violence,

966
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: crying all the time, and I couldn't I couldn't talk

967
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: to people. I couldn't be touched by strangers. Somebody grabbed

968
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: me once on the street, like grabbed me by the

969
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: back of the arm, not meaning to be creepy, but

970
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: like I turned around an elbowed guy almost in the face,

971
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: Like it was such a knee jerk reaction. Did he

972
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: still want a picture? And he was like, oh god,

973
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I mean, he was at least a

974
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: wise enough person to be like, I really shouldn't have

975
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: done that, But it took me a long time to

976
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: get that stuff out of my body. And so yeah,

977
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like listeners at home, do you

978
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: have any any tips for movement medicine for us gals,

979
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: anything we can share with the rest of the audience.

980
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: We're just gonna have to dance it off honestly that

981
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm ready for dance it off. We're going to Joyce,

982
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: we're bringing the booze. We're having a whether any of

983
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: our children want to get married hily or not. Yeah. Well,

984
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: I think that's why we appreciate these kinds of episodes

985
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: where there is a lot of joy, like we're having

986
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: like a ton of fun in these episodes, because we

987
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: know we know that they were pleasant to film. Um, yeah,

988
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: we had a good time. So thanks for those questions. Great,

989
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: y'all want to spend a weeks guys, I think we

990
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: should's that wheel come on now? Most likely to get it?

991
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: What do we got? Moved to a foreign country? Who's

992
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: most likely to move to a most Karen moved to Italy?

993
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: And then didn't she go yeah, yeah with with with

994
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: Kieren Andy? What was his name? Andy hot Andy? Yeah?

995
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah huh? And do that accent again, joy on my

996
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: Australian accent. Well it's not right, No, I can't do

997
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: it when I'm when I'm hold on British. It's so

998
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: easy to creme. You got to get some coffee in

999
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: the South creme and you know I've got these Christmas cookies,

1000
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: But you can't can't really enjoy Christmas and the hate

1001
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: can be a kin. I've never been to Australian in

1002
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: the winter. In the winter, that's a sexy. No, I'd

1003
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: still kiss you. I like it. It's really close. Joy.

1004
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: I would say, you're the person in real life who

1005
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: would move to a form like I can see you

1006
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: going to live in Austria. Yeah, you know, going to

1007
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: live in France, like wherever you were learning Italian? Weren't

1008
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: you French? That was funny. I have I know a

1009
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: little Italian, but yeah, I love languages and I'm I

1010
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: love I love just different cultures. I'm so interested in

1011
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: the way other people live and how they interact with

1012
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: each other and the earth and spirituality. And I almost

1013
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: didn't come back from Italy this summer. I was like,

1014
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: you guys should just but you had the most magical

1015
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: trip ever, like you had like a fairy tale. It

1016
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: was great, but it's like, you know, so much of

1017
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: my face Emily's there, and I was just like, I

1018
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know, man, maybe we should just do this. Maybe

1019
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: I'll like makee if there's a soap opera in Italy

1020
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: that wants to hire the three of us, Oh my god,

1021
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: I would love call us Let's go. Yeah, I just

1022
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: want to want to wear cool outfits and all black

1023
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: and somebody send us on a drink coffee all the

1024
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: European tour. I want to drink coffee all day and

1025
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: wine all night and eat pasta. You guys, this was

1026
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: a fun episode. I love your faces. So if I

1027
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: want you to go to sleep and get some red

1028
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: to enjoy, you don't enjoy being home? Yeah? Yeah, I'm

1029
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: so happy to be home. You know who's coming over

1030
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: today who I've never met before, Kimbra What. She's such

1031
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: a Please give her a hug for me. Yeah, I

1032
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: mean I don't know where, but you can hug her

1033
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: for me too. I've known her for a long time.

1034
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: She's an angel and yeah for years. Yeah, we m god.

1035
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: I think we met the summer I turned thirty. She's

1036
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: the best. She's really good friends with Kenny who directed

1037
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: our music video. Yeah, he directed video. One of my

1038
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: best best friends. And she is a huge one. Sweet.

1039
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: That's so cool. I love that she's brilliant. I mean

1040
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan of her music for many,

1041
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: many years, so many years, like truly truly a genius. Oh,

1042
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Please write us a song. Yeah, she

1043
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: needs to finish our theme song. That's what she got.

1044
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: She's the perfect person. Day right, That's how we're going

1045
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: to kick off the new year. Well, we hope everybody's

1046
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: getting ready for the holiday season and having Mary Mary time,

1047
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: and don't don't work too hard, you know, enjoy the

1048
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the holidays, and we'll see you

1049
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: back here next week for Season two, Episode three, near

1050
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: Wild heaven By. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to

1051
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: leave us a review. You can also follow us on

1052
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: Instagram at Drama Queens O t H or email us

1053
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: at Drama Queens at heart radio dot com. See you

1054
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: next time. We are all about that high school drama.

1055
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,120
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Speaker 1: take you for a ride in our comic Girl Cheering

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Speaker 1: for the Right Teen Drama Queens draws my girl up

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Speaker 1: girl fashion, but your tough girl. You can sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama Queens, Drama Queens, Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama, Queen's Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queens