1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Here's the snaps looking tups, the ball, diving for the 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: blylt that he's got it, razzle tazzle touchdown stairs and 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the Texans go in front. Game day. He's every day. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: We had a lot of energy and we brought a 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: lot of spark for this organization. Five nights a week. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: They hits keep on coming. The Texans say they have 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: it and they do. No, it's Texans, all Exans. Oh yes, 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: it is welcome. Un Tell My Day edition the Texas 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: All Access. John Harris here in my voice, the voice 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: of the Texans, my paler, my friend, my boss, my buddy, 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: Mark Van of Mere Mark. How are you doing this 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: wonderful Monday afternoon? Are you sweating in the sweltering one 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: hundred degree heat as we all are? Is it hot today? 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even notice anymore? You know, I'm trying to 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: tune it out. Look emotionally, I try to divorce myself 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: from the heat and just live through the summer. And 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: you know what Houston summer is like. It's like winter 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: when I lived in Michigan. You don't go outside much. Yeah, 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, you you find things to do indoors. It's 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of like that. But at the end of the day, 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: it gets kind of nice. And by the end of 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: the day, I mean like after nine pm. Yeah, if 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: you hold yourself down. Yeah, yeah. True. Well I bring 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: it up because Bill Brian brought it up today in 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: this press conference. He was talking about he was talking 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: about the heat and how hot it was on his Monday. So, yeah, 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: yesterday was Sunday, how hot it was Sunday. He started 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: talking about when he moved here in twenty fourteen, and 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I can I can just see this. I can see 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: it on his face, you know, twenty fourteen when he 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: got here, everybody's like, you know, it's hot. It's really hot. 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: It's really really hot. And he's like, come on, man, 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: how hot can it be? He coached at Georgia Tech. 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: It's Atlanta, I mean it's you know, that's hot too, 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, uh, it's a whole different level of 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: heat in humid here in Houston then even it is 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: in Atlanta or some of the other Deep South states 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: and Texas. Houston in particular is gonna bring the funk, 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. So we bring the funk 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: as well too. Well, good Mark one note on that 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. I remember, I wish I still had 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: the sound bite because it was on our old computer 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: and we lost a bunch of audio Rember. But he said, yeah, 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: look it's Houston. We're not We're not expecting some great 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Alaskan cold front to come through here and cool us off. 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: And he said that, But he's a Texan now. And 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: you know how I know this because he didn't complain 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: about the heat back then, but he is now. And 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: that's a true Texan right there. Texans complain and Texans 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: crack me up, and I'm one of them now. But 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: we complain about the heat in April when it hit 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: eighty degrees, Like, what are we doing complaining about this? 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: This is nothing compared to what it's going to be. 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. No, I'm with you on 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: that because I think when I was in Wisconsin, I 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: would hear my parents grouse about the the winter weather 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: the same same kind of way. It was like, you know, 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: when when the snow would hit, it was awesome. I mean, 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: when you're a kid, it was like, this is awesome. 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: But then when snow was hitting like four or five, 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: six weeks later, and it continued four or five. Six 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: weeks after that, it was like, Ah, come on, can 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: we just get a seventy degree day. I guess we'll 64 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: get our seventy gree gree day soon. I would as soon, yeah, 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: two months, Um, yeah, as soon as relative, as soon 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: as relative. Yeah. Um. You know we've been inside. We've 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: been inside a lot. Mark, I know you know this. 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: We've been inside a lot since March. Um having to 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: deal with a lot of different things. But we're dealing 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: with a number of things. Tonight on the show, we 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: got a Deep Slant Interview of the Week. Deep Slant 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Interviews brought to you Bikes Finity and Bernardrick McKinney, one 73 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: of the funniest guys on the team. He is absolutely 74 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: he's hilarious and he now has three kids. I can 75 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: only imagine how much fun he is around those three kids. Oh, 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: it must be just fantastic. Oh I wish I wish 77 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: we could have a camera on him twenty four to 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: seven with those children, because he would be absolutely awesome. 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: So b mack will join the show in the next segment, Mark, 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: I want to It's it's strange because I don't think 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: we've ever done this, but we're gonna focus on one 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: AFC South opponent where change is inevitable, it seems because 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars have just sort of rocked everybody's apple 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: cart again with two as a monster moves, but two 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: very intriguing moves of arguably the two best players. One 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: I think we saw coming, but then when we saw 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: the result of it on Sunday, we went WHOA. Then 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: we saw one today that I know that I once 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: I saw that coming back in twenty seventeen, that I 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: would have never done. I would have never done with 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the Jaguars did it twenty seventeen, and you scoffed at me. 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: You scoffed at me, and You're like, well, we'll have 93 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: to let it. We'll have to let it play out. 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: We'll have to let it play out. Well, you know what, 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: we did. Let it play out. And I was right 96 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: this one time, Mark Vanimir, I was right. The Jacksonville 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars should not have drafted the Leonard Fournett at number four. 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: I said it today, and I said it leading into 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: the draft, and I said it on draft night twenty seventeen. 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: But I was thankful they did. And now I don't 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: know if I'm thankfully he's gone yet. But we'll talk 102 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: about that in the next segment. Yeah, Johnny, you nailed it. 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: You nailed it on Fournette, and he did have some moments. 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: They had one really great year, right, They had one 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: great year where everything was clicking for them. You pointed 106 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: out many times that they didn't have any injuries of 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: note that year. Fournette was playing well, the defense was 108 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: lights out. That's how they won football games. Portles was 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: good enough. Portles isn't even in the league right now, 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: is that correct. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: he is. I don't think he has a job. So 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Bortles is unemployed. He played in an AFC championship game 113 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: three years ago. Now we can't stay in the league. 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: It's just mind boggling what that franchise has been through. 115 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: But Johnny, I think there's something we've overlooked with them, 116 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'll save it for later in 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: the show. For a second with me, something about the 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Jags that could be sneaky good here that we have 119 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: not really taken into consideration. You probably have, but I 120 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of people haven't. Well, the fact that 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: they've decided to go back back to trying board again. 122 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I start a fuel for Doug Morone. He 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: shows up and they go to AFC Championship game, and 124 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: then it just crumbles. It crumbles, you know, beneath them, 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey man, this thing is really this 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: thing has really gone sour. But either way, the Texans, well, 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: at least they busy over the weekend. They had practice 128 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: this weekend. And they also inked linebacker Zach Cuttingham too 129 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: a deal which will lead us to Texans audio jukebox. 130 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't have the sounder. I don't know Mark, He's 131 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: got it. Very cool, all right, Mark does have it. 132 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Now Joanna will play our cuts, Mark, so you don't 133 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. But Zach Cuttingham signs a 134 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: deal four years, fifty eight million. Apparently there's twenty something 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: twenty three million guarantees, thirty four and injury guarantees. Whatever 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the case might be. Mark, let's go gut reaction. Zach 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Cuttingham signs, and he signed this morning, but it was 138 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: announced he was going to sign on Sunday. Your initial thought, 139 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: what was your gut reaction when you saw that news? 140 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: When I heard I actually heard Wade breaking the story 141 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: yesterday and or reporting the story. It was broken by 142 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: McLean or whoever did it, Rappaport, whoever did it first, 143 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: but he was That's who I heard the news from 144 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: as I was making my way back to the broadcast 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: location to do my part yesterday in the Wade Smith 146 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts four hour extravaganza, which was awesome by the way, 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: for the second straits one day afternoon. I love those 148 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: guys on the air together. They've got natural chemistry and 149 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: they played the game. I love it anyway. I heard 150 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Wade say it, and as he went into I was 151 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: like Watson Cunningham, which was not a letdown, by the way. 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all waiting on Dushan, right, we all 153 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: want to know when he's going to sign his deal, 154 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: but this was a very important one to get. And look, 155 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't freak out about this stuff either way. Actually 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: I would freak out if we're not able to sign 157 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: certain people. But I just think it's great to keep 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: the guys that you really like, the guys that should 159 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: be Texans for a long long time, and certainly Zach 160 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Cunningham is one of them. Second in the league, and 161 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: so solo tackles last year plays versatile linebacker position has 162 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: to be accounted for by the offense, and he's made 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: some big stops for this football team. I look forward 164 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: Tom anymore. Yeah. Absolutely. And Zach did his interview today 165 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: after signing, then he had practice. I mean, how about that. 166 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: You wake up in the morning, like, hey, Zach, you're 167 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna go signed a four year, fifty eight million dollar deal, 168 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: and then you gotta go to practice and then you 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: got to meet with the media. Yeah, that was fun. Well, 170 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: cutting him at his press conference today, talked about just 171 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: getting the deal done and what that was like. Definitely, 172 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: men last to me just when they got worried back 173 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: that we finally got the deal. Then it was just 174 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: very excited, a lot of you know, just having to 175 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: take it all in. It was that was crazy enough 176 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: for me. And then when I was able to call 177 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: my family and you know, give them the news. One 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: of the things Mark that I thought about as I 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: saw that, I was I was excited to see it 180 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and then of course you wanted to see 181 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: the reaction, and then of course the national reaction kind 182 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: of set me off a little bit because I saw 183 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: a national anis like and other Texans continue what they're doing. 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: They give a good player a great contract, and I'm like, man, 185 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: and so I kind of lost I kind of lost 186 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: it a little bit with Wade and Cecil because that 187 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: news was announced. I went on maybe like twenty minutes later, 188 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what if Zach Cunningham went 189 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter or went on Instagram and started talking about 190 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, hashtag rising, grind up at it again, hashtag 191 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: grit and he started talking about himself and talked about 192 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: all the great things he did. I mean he probably, 193 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be known by everybody out there, but 194 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Zach just goes out and plays outstanding football 195 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: every week. He doesn't point the finger out himself. He 196 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: doesn't do the bragget o'shio, pound your chest sort of thing. 197 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: He just goes out and does it. I mean, Jalen Rams, 198 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: he showed up in a brink truck, drew all kinds 199 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: of attention to himself last year in Jacksonville. Zach Cunningham 200 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: would never do anything like that. When is Zach everard 201 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: drawn attention to himself and they showed up into the 202 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: outfits ont of the linebackers. That was it. That's it. 203 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: That's it. And so when you say, oh, it's a 204 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: good player getting a great deal, the dude led the 205 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: AP steam tackles. He led the entire NFL with defensive 206 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: stops last year. If you stop and watch him play, 207 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: you realize, damn he's good. And I'll give you this nugget. 208 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Last year, for a lot of people that know the NFL, 209 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: they know Daniel Jeremiah. He is the NFL network draft 210 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: guru after Mayak moved on. DJ's fantastic, He's great. Well. 211 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: He also does the Chargers games. So last year, I'm 212 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: down on the sideline, We're getting ready for pregame, and 213 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm watching US warm up and watching them warm up. 214 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: DJ comes over and we kind of chit chat for 215 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: like ten fifteen seconds, and the very first thing he 216 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: says is boy cut him's really good, isn't he. He goes, 217 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: I missed on him, and I was like, I was like, DJ, 218 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: he's nominal, and he goes. He goes, John, I'm telling you, 219 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I see some good linebackers. He goes, I've watched Denzel 220 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: Peremy watching some good linebackers the Chargers. I've watched them 221 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: all over the league. That guy has blossomed way more 222 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: than I ever thought he would. He is a tremendous player. 223 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: And not that I needed validation from Daniel Jeremiah, but 224 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: the fact that DJ said I was wrong. I was 225 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: wrong about this guy. He's proving wrong. And not only 226 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: am I wrong, this guy's a tremendous player. Tremendous player. 227 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: That's somebody that's watching him play. I'll take that. Yahn't 228 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: watch him play back out of here. Well, you liked 229 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: him when you when you first saw him. And Lorey Ware, 230 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: who I've jokingly referred to as the unofficial voice of 231 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: the Vanderbiltdoors because he did so many games for them 232 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: on ESPN back in the day. He had seen him 233 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of times. And Andre Hall as well, for 234 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: that matter. But he loved Cunningham coming out, and I 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: just there are a couple of things here, having McKinney already, 236 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: and McKinney's this statesman middle or inside linebacker character, right, 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: and he's made a Pro Bowl and he's really good. 238 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll lose track that there's another guy in there 239 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: who's really good himself. And they're different styles, but they 240 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: both make a lot of stops and Cunningham. If you 241 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, I mean, it's it's hard to 242 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: ignore his contribution to the football team. Johnny. There's something 243 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: about the number forty one. I think if Cunningham wore 244 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: a fifty six, well that's number. And Jan Johnson, undrafted rookie, 245 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: is no longer on the team this preseason, but he 246 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: was wearing fifty six for a wild camp. It was 247 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: just a bizarre site, it really was. It's one of 248 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: those numbers that you feel like, I'm not saying it 249 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: should be retired, but it just feels so strange to 250 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: see somebody else at a fifty six, but a fifty whatever. 251 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Give him a number in the fifties. I honestly think 252 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: there's a different brand name recognition with Zach Hunningham forty one. 253 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: I do it myself sometimes. I still look down on 254 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: the field and I'm like, forty one, Oh yeah, Cunningham, 255 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: Like I it's an extra count that it takes me 256 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: to register sometimes, And it's just one of those things. 257 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: He's a linebacker who wears a non well these days 258 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: that's more popular to wear a number in the forties 259 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: for a linebacker. But you get my drift, Yeah, I understand. 260 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's in relatively knew that they could use 261 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: a number in the forties, So no, I understand completely. Now, 262 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: Zach was asked this morning, this is definitely a life 263 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: changing moment. Here's what he had to say about his 264 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: life changing that's occasion I wouldn't have imagined and going 265 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: up there, I'd be in this position to be able 266 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: to talk about this. So, I mean, it's definitely gonna 267 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: be some conversation with my family, you know, my team 268 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: to have around me, with Athletes First and my financial advisor. Yeah, 269 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: athletes first getting it done, Y've they've gotten a lot done. 270 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: In fact, there was news about athletes First inking a 271 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: deal with a workout. I'm trying to think what group 272 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: it was. I have to find it, but essentially a 273 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: group that works out draft pit or prospects for the 274 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: draft athletes First is now signing and sending all of 275 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: their their perspective, their prospects to that particular facility. I'm like, Wow, 276 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: that's a great deal for U for both sides. There's 277 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. Now when Ay signs four years, fifty eight 278 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: million dollars, there's probably a moment in which you go wow, 279 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: So cutting am was asked, was there a wow moment 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: during these contract negotiations? Yeah, I definitely had that old 281 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: wild moment. Like I said, when I first got the call, 282 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: I was, you know, very excited. So I think I 283 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: don't don't have any specifics. Yeah, that's what I'm going 284 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: to do. But it's definitely a lot of steps are 285 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: going through my mind. You know, from where I've came 286 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: coming from, but my family's gone through since I growing up. 287 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Definite a lot of things that I know I'll be 288 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: able to be able to do now that I'm happy about. 289 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: One of the things, Mark we that happens a lot 290 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: with guys that signed a big contract to get that 291 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: big second contract, and it's like boom, done, secured the bag. 292 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Baby got it. I'm rad, I'm done. I'm you know. 293 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: I well, yeah, but you now have to play the 294 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: next four years for your fifty eight million dollars. So 295 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Zach was asked, Okay, now you got the money, what 296 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: are your goals going forward for me? I'm just I've 297 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: said it before, just you know, continue to improven from 298 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: my play. Like I said, there's there's plays I know 299 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I've lived out there much more plays I'm able to make, 300 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: So being able to continue with that and being to 301 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: posh forward and making those type of plays I know 302 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have made that I'm able to make. I mean, 303 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: just be a better player. I mean, that's what he 304 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: seemingly wants to do. Just continue to be a better player, 305 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: and of course go win the Texans some championships. Now, 306 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: four years fifty eight million dollars a lot of money. 307 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: When I saw that, of course, I think this happens 308 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: with any contract. I mean I thought about it with 309 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes when that money was out there. What would 310 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: your fun purchase be? Mark? If you made four years 311 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: fifty eight million dollars, would you have a fun purchase? Look, 312 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to say travel, but you can't do that 313 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: right now. But after the season or whatever. I would 314 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: think about that, and hopefully the pandemic will be over. 315 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: My goodness, But I would say something like that, Johnny. 316 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: And it all depended on what my living situation is. 317 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: You know, you say fun purchase because you start thinking 318 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: about who you can help out and take care of. Yeah, 319 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: but you always gotta be careful with that too, right. 320 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Teach a man to fish, feed him of life, give 321 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: him a fish if feed him of a day kind 322 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: of thing. I think that's very tough with a lot 323 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: of these guys who get a ton of money like that. 324 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: But you know this, it's not like he's new to 325 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: the league, you know, Zach. And it's not like he 326 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: was making minimum wage and now he's got millions. He's 327 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: been making good money and you know he's a smart guy. 328 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: He's been taking care of it and now gets this. 329 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: So I bet that his plans are very well arranged. 330 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Yes they are. He did have a thought about the 331 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: fun purchase he wanted to make though I know I 332 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: was talking with the LBS. We had his idea maybe 333 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: getting like doom Doom buggies or something like that. It 334 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: might be something we do. Bill O'Brien and ten A 335 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: just went up like huh, uma contract says no Node Buggy. 336 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Now wait a minute, Johnny, dude, don't you just say 337 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: a TV? Do you still say doom buggy? Isn't the 338 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of vehicle? Like what what surprise you does? It? 339 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: Would it surprising that Zach Cuttingham would mention a dune buggy? 340 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean no, he seems kind of like an old 341 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: soul anyways. I mean, uh, that's the way he strikes 342 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: me as a kind of an old soul, so I'm 343 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: not surprised by that whatsoever. Mark, we talked about seeing 344 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: the line I could see the linebacker kind of like 345 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: the banana splits. You know, they're all duggies. Did I 346 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: just do a banana splits reference? You know what? You know? 347 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: What I had, for some reason I thought about was 348 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: the Laugh Olympics, and I thought about, Um, I thought 349 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: about the I don't know why I thought about this, 350 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: but I think they had They had an episode of 351 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: Laugh Olympics, the cartoon from the seventies where they raced 352 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: in dune buggies, And that was the first thing I 353 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: thought about. So I don't know, maybe I'm an older 354 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: soul than Za. I think the banana splits and and 355 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, allow me to. I mean, these guys used 356 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: to bring it, okay, and they're riding around their ATVs 357 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: and they play in a band and too. I mean 358 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: I think the livebackers are very banana splits like. Well, 359 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Zach could mean these guys were awesome, Yeah, okay, you 360 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: know he's also awesome to Texas fans. Zach Cuttingham had 361 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: a note for the Texas fans after he signed, thank 362 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: you for your continuing support and if I always had 363 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: my bags as I've gotten here, I continue to see that, 364 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, with the fans and we I feel like 365 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: we had the best fans of the NFL. So I 366 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: hope that I can show you down worth worth they 367 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: gave me. I'm gonna continue to open ball out of 368 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: the six. Yeah, and I think that he definitely will now. 369 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien also went to the microphone today because he 370 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: does every day, and he met with the media to date. 371 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: Of course, right off the bat he was asked whether 372 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: he was happy, which I'm sure he was, to extend 373 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham, we were very happy to be able to 374 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: get something done. Um. Zack's a really good football player, 375 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: very important part of our team. I think when you 376 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: look around, when you look around the league, you know, 377 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: all of us talk about culture and and what we're 378 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: trying to build within each one of our cultures. And 379 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, culture is defined, in my opinion, about the 380 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: behaviors of the people within the culture. You know, that's 381 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: that's really how you know you you you build a 382 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: good culture. And so we've got a lot of good 383 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: guys here. You know, we talk about dts, dependable, tough, 384 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: and smart and that's what Zach is. You know, he's 385 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: a dependable player, he's a tough player, he's a smart player. Uh, 386 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: and he's a really good player, and so he does 387 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: a lot for us. He's, you know, obviously a three 388 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: down linebacker and then he plays on the fourth down too. So, UM, 389 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: we were happy to to uh come to an agreement 390 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: with him and his agent, KM McCarthy's a really good agent, 391 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: good good representative of of Zach and uh we worked 392 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: well with him. Bill O'Brien talking about Zach Cuttingham there 393 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: and he talked a little bit further a little later 394 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: on about how does that Cuttingham deal got done, and 395 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: went back to and reiterated the management structure for the 396 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: Texas to be very very honestly, Jackie's to be did 397 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of this negotiation. You know, I was there. 398 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: You know, I'm coaching the football team. We have a 399 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: very unique model. I've said it a thousand times and 400 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, and I don't mind saying. I mean, 401 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: we Jack and I work together. We're all in charge 402 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: of different things. So relative to how a general manager's 403 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: position have been defined in the past, may not be 404 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: exactly the way we do it that makes sense. You know, 405 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: we I coach and I work with Jack and he 406 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: works extremely hard with the things that he's in charge of. 407 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: He oversees a lot of different things from medical to training. 408 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Who works on contracts with Kevin and you know, we 409 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: work together. It's a team. It's a team, and we 410 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: hopefully we can win and prove that that's the way 411 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: to do it. But yeah, I would say that Jack 412 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: and Zach's representation should get a lot of the credit 413 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: for getting a deal done. And obviously Zach Mark. When 414 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: you saw the Zach Cuttingham deal or you heard Wade 415 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: say that, you said it yourself, Oh is this Deshaun 416 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Watson being signed? Is this Watson or maybe it's Cuttingham. 417 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: It's one or the other. But I had kind of 418 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: the same thought. I heard, Oh, Texas News, Okay, what's 419 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: going on? Okay, Zach's getting done? Okay, good, And then 420 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: my immediate thought was probably the same as yours. Zach 421 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: is now done, so that moves us on to doing 422 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: the contract with Deshaun Watson. Bill Brian talked about, yeah, 423 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: there are lots of guys in line for some deals, 424 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: but Deshaun Watson is definitely chief among them. Look, obviously, 425 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, we feel good about where we're at as 426 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: a team. We feel like we have a lot of 427 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, we've got a lot of dependable, tough, 428 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: smart guys, and you know, they get along well, and 429 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: they want to be here. Houston's a great city. They 430 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: want to live here, and they want to present this 431 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: this city. You know, like I said all along, I 432 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: don't really want to get into specific, um, you know, 433 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: contract talks, but quite obviously we want the Shawn Watson 434 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: to be here for a long time, he said, a 435 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: great training camp. He's a great player, and we're gonna 436 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: work hard to get that done. Oh man, get it done? 437 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: Is that the last? Is that the last point on 438 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: its due list mark before the season starts? Is that? 439 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know before it season starts? Right season? 440 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, but is that kind of the last 441 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: to do item? You think, not that they made it 442 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: the last one, but think is it the last one 443 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: that's not checked off? I suppose. I mean I feel 444 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: like that kind of white quarterback, one of the very 445 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: best in the league. Yeah, I mean this this is huge, 446 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: This is absolutely huge. It's a quarterback. And you saw 447 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: what happened with Mahomes and his deal, and I think 448 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: this one's gonna be different. But you know, and one 449 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: percent unsold in sales, right and with the tracts, I 450 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: think it's the same thing. You know, you want to 451 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: just you know these things. You know, they're trying to 452 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: get them done, but they're not done until they're done, 453 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: until the signature is there. It sounds obvious, but they're 454 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: working on it. And I love that he talked about 455 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby that way because we know it, You and 456 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I know it. Jack Easterby is way more involved than 457 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: people initially thought. And I think that if they got 458 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: to know him better, and I think they are through 459 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: our interviews and some other media opportunities that he's had, 460 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: you see how smart he is. I mean, the guy 461 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: is just so bright and he has an interesting approach 462 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: to everything. And O'Brien obviously, you know O'Brien's gonna sign 463 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: off on everything, like like I don't know if he 464 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he said that, but he does. 465 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: And they are a team there. It's a collaborative effort 466 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: and to have Jack and Matt Baser get involved in 467 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: everybody else. It's really working out so far now, and 468 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: like you said, they want to win, they want to 469 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: go further. That's the whole idea here. But you can't 470 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: go there until you take steps one and two and 471 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: three and epps. The additial steps are to ink these 472 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: guys long term, the guys you want around for a 473 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: long long time, and then take it from there. Yeah, 474 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: no doubt, absolutely no doubt. All right, when we get back, 475 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the roster. A few a few players 476 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: were trimmed off that roster today and what is going 477 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: on with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mark and I will talk 478 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: about all that next right here in Texas, Axas. Download 479 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: the Texans mobile app for news, videos, alerts, and more 480 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: on your Houston Texans. Now back to more Texans talk 481 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: on Texans All EXAs. Yes, sir, let's get right back 482 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: into it. John Harrison, Mark Vanermere. This morning, Bill O'Brien 483 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: was asked, what is timetable is for trimming of the roster. Yeah, 484 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: we probably will start chipping away at that Aaron, But again, everybody's, 485 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: the whole league is has to get down the fifty three. 486 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: But I think three o'clock Central Time on Saturday the fifth, 487 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: So you know, we'll we'll probably you know, use all 488 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: of that time, but we'll begin to start shipping away here. 489 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: And I think what Coach meant is they will use 490 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: all that time to get down to fifty three, but 491 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: if they feel the need to do some things now, 492 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: they'll go ahead and trim it now, as they did today. Mark. 493 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: Three players released slashed waved today, number three quarterback Alex McGoo, 494 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Albert Huggins, and line blindbacker slash special special 495 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: team star who was recently signed Darren Bates. Texans cut 496 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: those three. Mark. I actually saw Albert going out of 497 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: the building today as I was going for my COVID testing, 498 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: and so I kind of I kind of figured that 499 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: was what it was. But obviously I'm sworn to secrecy 500 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: and I would never put that out there until the 501 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: release comes out. And the release did come out today. 502 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: I'm I can't say I've said this before. I'm not 503 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I've never surprised by anything that happens, but I thought 504 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: maybe they would at least let the next scrimmage go, 505 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: let maybe Alex have some time with that group. Maybe 506 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: they're giving these guys an opportunity to look at what 507 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: else is out there, to maybe see where they want 508 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: to bring them back. They can put some veterans on 509 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Your thoughts about these three being released 510 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: and the timing, well, I think you're gonna see the 511 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: Texans and Chiefs release their players earlier than everybody else. 512 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: You have till Saturday at three, and you'll probably keep 513 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: more than you're fifty three around until that point. But 514 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: remember they go into a game week mode starting Friday. 515 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: Starting Thursday night is a week out of the opening 516 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: day game for the Houston Texans and the Kansas City Chiefs. 517 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: And I think what you want to do is get 518 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: your team together, the guys that you're really going to 519 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: get in the foxhole with next week, So you want 520 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: to do it as soon as possible. And these guys 521 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: might not have been the plan, but they might be 522 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: part of the practice squad plan. And McGoo we talked 523 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: about this. We thought McGoo would be one of your 524 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: four protected. Are they angling to get another quarterback? They 525 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: will have a third quarterback somewhere in this organization, right 526 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: whether it's practice squad, active roster, the four man protected 527 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: part of the practice squad. They will there will be 528 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't know if it'll be McGoo at 529 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: this point because they just let them go. But they've 530 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: got to get somebody, and maybe they feel like they're 531 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna be some good quarterbacks available, and you know, all 532 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: with all due respect to MGOO, maybe some quarterbacks who 533 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: have some some mileage, good mileage and some experience that 534 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: they can utilize. I was, and you know, you and 535 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: I were talking about Huggy that he was looking pretty 536 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: good at times. But look, they look at every shred 537 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: of zaprudered tape and there they probably felt like it's 538 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: not where they needed to be right now. But again, 539 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: he might end up back here on the practice squad. 540 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: This thing, you know, to react to one little chip here, 541 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: like like you said, ship away or whatever. I don't know. 542 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: We have to see when when they finally form it 543 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: over the weekend and then react to the whole thing. Yeah, 544 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I think I think you're right. I thought the timing 545 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: of it was. I was curious, as was the timing 546 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: this morning of a move the Jacksonville Jaguars made. The 547 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars waived Leonard Fournette. Now they did not when 548 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Fournette was drafted. They draft him number four in the 549 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen draft. Number four. It went right out of 550 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: shoot Miles Garrett to the Browns for the Bears trade 551 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: up to get Mitchell Trubisky. The forty nine Ers moved 552 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: down a spot, took Solomon Thomas, and at number four 553 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: went Leonard Fournette. Miles Garrett got one hundred and twenty 554 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: five million dollars. This offseason, Trubisky is fighting for his job, 555 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas is a backup with the Niners, and Leonard 556 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Fournette was waived. Now there's a lot that went into it. 557 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: Fournette was excellent as a He really gave Jacksonville what 558 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: it was looking for. That team played bullyball. He was 559 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: the right fit for that. Twenty eighteen he gets hurt, 560 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: He's banged up. He barely plays much of that season. 561 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: He's on the bench in the season finale, acting a 562 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: fool on the bench in the game here at NRG 563 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: Stadium twenty nine he bounces twenty nineteen, he bounces back, 564 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: has over eleven hundred yards at seventy six receptions. It's 565 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of going the right direction. But he had other 566 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: problems off the field when you woke up and saw 567 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: that news. Fournette, I know you you saw it because 568 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: you texted me your gut reaction not only to Leonard 569 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: Fournette being waived, but Yannicking Gockway being traded to the 570 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and then taking six million dollars less than 571 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: the franchise tag to make the deal work financially from Minnesota? 572 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: What is going on at Jacksonville? Mark Vanimir I don't 573 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: think they have faith the players do that the current 574 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: regime is going to be in place following this year, right, 575 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: So I don't understanding Gokway other than, hey, let me 576 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: go play for a winning team that has a chance 577 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: to really go deep into the playoffs and you never 578 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: know which is great, which is what you want out 579 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: of your professional athletes. Yet at the same time, you 580 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: can't fault your professional athletes for trying to get as 581 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: many dollars as possible because I get that too. So 582 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: if in Gockway had stayed, he's better off financially, and 583 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: then next year find a deal somewhere, you know, go 584 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: ahead and take your best shot. You'll be an unrestricted 585 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: free agent. They're probably not gonna franchise you again, You're 586 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: not gonna get traded as far as Fournet goes. Look, 587 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: that was not a shocker. And then I saw a 588 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: comment and I don't know if it was you or 589 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: somebody else who commented on the twitter verse. They said, 590 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, he's not a fit in the new offense. 591 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, all right, Jake Gruden, have we 592 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: overlooked this? You know, Jake Gruden. I'm not saying that 593 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: he Bill Walsh reincarnated or something like that as a 594 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: football mind. But Jake Ruden did some pretty good things 595 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, didn't he? And even in Washington look at 596 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: the facts here. You know, he was able to you know, 597 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins as Kirk Cousins because of Jake Ruden. Well 598 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: that maybe not because of him, but you know, in 599 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: addition to other things, he saw something in him and 600 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: they went to the playoffs. All right, that was something 601 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: at the time. For Washington, that is something because they 602 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: just don't get there. And I think that, yeah, And 603 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: I think Gruden did good things with Andy Dalton, who 604 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been the same since. Let's be honest, Gruden did 605 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: some good things with Cousins, who has been the same 606 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: in a little bit better, maybe at Minnesota hitting Kyle 607 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Rudolph for that winner against the Saints last year. But 608 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: Bruten and Minshew maybe there's I'm not gonna call it magic, 609 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: but maybe they're cooking up something pretty good here. So 610 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: let's see how it goes and maybe they'll be surprising 611 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: some people on that side of the football. I don't 612 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: disagree with you. I don't disagree with you at all. 613 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: I think that I don't think you're crazy with that 614 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: thought at all. I think Jake Gruden is gonna make 615 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: a pretty significant statement. And I think if Jay Gruden 616 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: makes a pretty significant statement with the offense and look, 617 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: that defense could get lit up. It's a young defense, 618 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: a young defense outside of Miles Jack and Abrey Jones, 619 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 1: Tavian Bryan's going his third year, Josh Allen's second year, 620 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: Chase on a rookie CJ Henderson, rookie guys the back end, 621 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: or no, I think no more than three years. You know, 622 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: it's conceivable. Jay Gruden looked at that and went, hey, 623 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: if I lighted up this year offensively, but we go 624 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: three and thirteen, maybe I get that job. You know. 625 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the way he looked at it begintting the 626 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: head coaching job because three and thirteen, I would imagine 627 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: that Sean Cohn's gonna want to just, you know, tear 628 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: that thing down and do it again. But I think 629 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: Jake Gruden is, I think you're right. I think you're 630 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: onto something. I just think they need a couple more 631 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: pieces to go along with DJ Shark to really feel good. 632 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: I think they if they had an athletic tight end, 633 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, if they had a kind of dual threat 634 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: running back, you know, not a you know, look, if 635 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: they had if they had a Duke Johnson and Jacksonville, 636 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: I think I would feel like, man, okay, maybe they 637 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: can do some stuff. Maybe so maybe that could happen. 638 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: But I think defensively, they're about to get lit up 639 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: like a Christmas tree. And I think they'll have some 640 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: young players make it some nice plays at times, but 641 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I think overall, I think they're gonna get blitz creaked 642 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: on defense, and that's what's gonna be the downfall. I 643 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: do think Minshi's gonna be okay, Marker, I don't think. 644 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Minshi's gonna be gonna be terrible. He 645 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: doesn't not, man, he kept them in games last year. 646 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: I think that defense is gonna get sauced and I 647 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know if they're they're probably one, maybe two guys 648 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: away to help Gardner Minshew to really kind of put 649 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the fear in a lot of different teams. So we 650 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: will talk more about this tomorrow. I know we've got 651 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: to talk about a big It was a big weekend 652 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: unfortunately for professional figures that passed away, including a man 653 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: by name of John Thompson Mark. We will do all 654 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: of that tomorrow because we got to catch up with 655 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: Nardrick McKinney next right here on Texans All Access. For 656 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: the most in depth coverage of your favorite team and players, 657 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: check out Houston Texans dot com. It's like Netflix, but free. 658 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: Go to Houston Texans dot com and click listen for 659 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: every episode of our Texans radio shows. Yes, on those 660 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: radio shows you will hear right about now. Dep SU 661 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: with their Deep sunt Interview of the Week, brought to 662 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: you by Xfinity. She sat down with Bernardrick McKinney. Here's 663 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: b Mac with Deep. How's it going, b Mack? How's 664 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: it going great? Just trying get ready for the season 665 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: long process, but it's going good. How was your off season. 666 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: How did you spend it? I know you were you 667 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: were working your way back from injury. How did the 668 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: rehab go and and how challenging was it under the 669 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: circumstances with everyone being stuck at home? It was very different. 670 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean these I had the chance to be to 671 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: do with my family a little longer, but it was 672 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: definitely a challenging trying to stay in shape, trying to 673 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: find places to work out and be creative with my workouts, 674 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: and uh, with the injury, things uh got better real quick, 675 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: real fast. I wasn't out for probably for like two 676 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: weeks and I was back and around and so, oh 677 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: that's good to hear you mentioned spending time with your family. Congratulations. 678 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: You added another little one another another baby boy. So 679 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: you're the data of three. What's it like being the 680 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: data three and especially being home? How did how did 681 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: you keep the kids busy this offseason? Um? I have 682 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: an unbelievable nanny and an unbelievable wife, so I did 683 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: a great job keeping watching the kids as well. I'm 684 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: trying to find places to work out while I'm working out, 685 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: and just being around the kids every day is very fun. 686 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: Just seeing them them grow in Vada watch my daughter 687 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: be funny and run around the house. So it's it's 688 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: really fun just being able to kids every day with 689 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: my wife and family and nanny. So well, if they're funny, 690 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure that apple didn't fall far from the tree. 691 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried about your alter ego, 692 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: Lambo Mac. We usually see him in the locker room, 693 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: but with the sort of offseason you had, you weren't 694 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: really able to interact with some of the new guys 695 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: as much as you were. Now that everyone's back in 696 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: the building, have you been able to play some practical 697 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: jokes or get to know your teammates a little bit better. Oh, 698 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard. We're kind of separated, so we're 699 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: not around each other as much unless we were on 700 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: the field. But y'all, I'm always having a great time. 701 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: It's on the field if I see them walking around 702 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: like a joke around. But as the linebacker group, we 703 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: always have fun, but we get the job done. It's 704 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: something the lock in. You certainly do get the job done. 705 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: And it's been so much fun watching you and Zach 706 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Hunningham in the middle of the field. There number one, 707 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: number two tackles in twenty nineteen. You yourself, you've surpassed 708 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: over one hundred tackles for the last two years. How 709 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: can you and Zach build on that chemistry that the 710 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: two of you have. It seems like you two are 711 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: really playing in sync and you have been for a 712 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: while now. Oh yeah, I mean Zach, we're a great 713 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: buddies own and off the field. May him take a 714 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: vacation trip. So well, we know a lot about each other. 715 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: So this is why it's so easy to play with him. 716 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, we're locked in on the field, we're 717 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: off the field or it means we have we have 718 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: a great time. So the chemistry between mehem is unbelievable. Well, 719 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback, the heart of the defense. You're calling 720 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: the plays back there, and we talk about it every 721 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: year with some of the new guys. How how easy 722 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: or difficult it is to sort of communicate those plays 723 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: with the new guys and get them on the same page. 724 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: Did you find it any more challenging this year because 725 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: you had to do a lot of your offseason on Zoom's. 726 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: What's the chemistry been like? Because it's not only rookies. 727 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: You've added some free agents to the defense, too. How 728 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: do you think that communication has been coming along now 729 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: that campus started. I mean we've did I said all 730 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: the defense coaches, but we did a unbelievable job with 731 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: our Zoom means by making them creative and making them 732 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: fun so guys wouldn't get bored and those off. But 733 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: it was fun doing Zoom meets. We got a lot done. 734 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: Everybody was being professional about it and got into playbook 735 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: and took notes. And it was easier when we came 736 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: together Discount because they did such a good job to 737 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: get us ready. So it's been going great with the 738 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: calls and just trying to be on the same page. Well, 739 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: I know that everybody watching right now wants to know 740 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: what major Zoom meetings so fun. Can you give us 741 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: a little idea of some of the creative ways that 742 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: you guys got to learning this offseason. We played u 743 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: We played games, was in groups, linebackers against dbs, everybody 744 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: going against each other. A game. We just played calls 745 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: and and they act like you have to. It was cahoo, 746 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: so you have to get the answer right before a 747 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: certain amount of time. Of course, at the end of 748 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: the OTA is the inside lineburgers one. So I was 749 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna ask it was the best at Cahoo. Yeah it was. 750 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: It was. It was the inside linebackers, but individually, uh 751 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: PK one, Peter oh, Peter Calumbaye. Okay, all right, good 752 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: to know. Or what about for yourself? I remember heading 753 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl with you just a few years back, 754 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: your first Pro Bowl. You sign a contract extension, you're 755 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: in Disney Roll with your family. Now it's hard to 756 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: believe you're heading into year six because it seems like 757 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: you just got here just a short while ago. But 758 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: what about for yourself? I mean, is it surreal to 759 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: think it's your six and what sort of goals do 760 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: you have for yourself to share? Yeah, it's weird. It 761 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: came so fast. It kind of almost is like a 762 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: blurrd Like I only kind of remember like my first 763 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: year and now like it went super fast. But I'm 764 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: just trying to get better, and I just gotta keep 765 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: looking at guys older than me and see how they're 766 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: they're being able to stay in the league so long 767 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: a theay to take her to body. So I'm still 768 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: getting better at that eating and just trying to make 769 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: sure I can last long in the league and make 770 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: them kick me out. So I'm still still trying to 771 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: get right. Big big day for the linebackers. Zach McKinnon 772 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: or Zach Cuttingham got four years, fifty eight million dollars 773 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: and Bernardi McKinney featured on our show tonight, how about 774 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: that good stuff? And if you missed it earlier and 775 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: Mark and I talked about a last segment the Jaguars 776 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: traded Yannick and Gockway. I gotta ask this question by 777 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: Brent Martineau's buddy of mine who does radio in Jacksonville 778 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: ESPN six ninety and I was on there, and this 779 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: was right after the combine in twenty nineteen, so it 780 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: was probably about a month later, so it was like 781 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: April maybe May twenty nineteen. He said, John, who gets 782 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: the long term contract first? To Debion Clowney or Yannick 783 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: and Gockway? And I don't I can't remember if you 784 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: asked me whether which team you know his team at 785 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: the time, which Jannick was in Jacksonville, Colwny was obviously 786 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: here with which team? And I was like, I kind 787 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: of had an idea that we hadn't got a long 788 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: term deal done with Clowney, and I didn't think it 789 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: was coming. So I was like, man, I guess in Gockway, Hell, 790 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: I guess defaulted him. That was in April twenty nineteen. 791 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: We are now, what almost almost a year and a 792 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: half from that point, and neither one of those guys 793 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: has a long term deal it. I mean, one guy's 794 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: great against the run. If you could mash them together 795 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: and be Yannick Clowney, it'd be the best player in 796 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Because Clinney tremendous against the run and Gockway 797 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: is hell fire rushing the quarterback. Put it together, Yannick 798 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: Clowney is the best player in the NFL. But unfortunately 799 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: for them, they're two separate people. All Right, we're gonna 800 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: have more tomorrow. We'll talk about with Mark John Thompson 801 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: passing the coach at Georgetown and how that impacts, how 802 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: it impacted Mark. Mark actually called a game that featured 803 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: John Thompson way back in the day. So we got 804 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: plenty for you Tomorrow. More will happen with the Texas 805 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: will have it all for you at Texans All Access. 806 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: Think thanks Joanna, to Bernardric, to dep to Mark obviously, 807 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: to all you for listening. Thank you so much. We'll 808 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: see tomorrow and as always, go Texans. This is Texans 809 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: Radio on Sports Radio six ten