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Speaker 1: This is Mesters in Business with very results on Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: This week on the podcast, I have an extra special guest.

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Speaker 1: If you wanna listen to me wank out about automobiles. Um,

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Speaker 1: Hannah Elliott is my favorite automobile reviewer. Uh. The last

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Speaker 1: time I had her on, I had people writing me

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Speaker 1: and saying, you know, you were like a little puppy dog,

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Speaker 1: piddling all over yourself. You couldn't get out of your

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Speaker 1: own way. You were so excited to talk about cars

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Speaker 1: with somebody. UM. This time I think I let Hannah

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Speaker 1: speak a little more than I did last time. UM.

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Speaker 1: I tried to keep my excitement in check, especially on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast portion, but we did go back and forth

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Speaker 1: on some stuff. Uh. If you were all interested in

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Speaker 1: the automobile industry E vs. Motorcycles, collectible cars, Ferrari's Formula one,

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Speaker 1: well strap yourself in and get eddie. This is two

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Speaker 1: hours of automobile wankery with no further ado. My conversation

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Speaker 1: with Bloomberg's Hannah Elliott. Hannah Elliott, welcome back, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: it's great to be here. I'm oh. I always enjoyed

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Speaker 1: talking to you because I'm kind of a car guy.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into automobiles, let's just start a

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Speaker 1: little bit with your background of your career. Um, you

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Speaker 1: were a staff writer at Forbes Luxury. What led you

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Speaker 1: to being a writer and what led you to luxury.

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Speaker 1: It's a really funny story. I always start out by saying,

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Speaker 1: of course, at Bloomberg, I get to write about cars.

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Speaker 1: I get to write about the fun thing. Most people

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Speaker 1: here write about how to make money. I get to

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Speaker 1: write about how to spend money. This was not by design,

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Speaker 1: this was not my plan. I did love words and books,

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Speaker 1: and I did study journalism in college. I went to

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Speaker 1: Baylor University. Um thinking of Brittany Grinder right now, she

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Speaker 1: also went to Baylor, so shout out Brittany. Um. But

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Speaker 1: I went to Baylor, I got a journalism degree and

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Speaker 1: moved to New York. I had interned writing about politics

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Speaker 1: and religion. Actually, but saw on Craigslist and add to

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Speaker 1: assist the automotive editor at Forbes. And I knew nothing

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Speaker 1: about cars. I come from a sports family. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a car I still say, I'm not actually a car person.

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Speaker 1: This is my job. It's a beat. Did you play

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Speaker 1: sports and I ran track? I was going to say

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Speaker 1: So I come from a big running family. My brother

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Speaker 1: No car anything, I mean my no. I mean I

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Speaker 1: I had an uncle with like an accurate legend, which

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Speaker 1: was probably the nicest car I was ever exposed to. Um,

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Speaker 1: and just shared an old Buix Skylark with my sister

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Speaker 1: in high school that I was very embarrassed by. So

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Speaker 1: not understand. Yeah, and although my sister actually I think

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Speaker 1: at all. But back to this craigslist at I figured, well,

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Speaker 1: Forbes is a good brand, it's recognizable. I know I

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Speaker 1: want to do journalism. There's my foot in the door.

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Speaker 1: I'll figure it out once I get in and fast forward.

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Speaker 1: You know, this was on like two thousand seven, two

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Speaker 1: He was expensive. I wasn't. I was being paid next

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Speaker 1: to nothing. So it was like, well, who can write

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Speaker 1: just fired the guy who was covering and which doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense, and so oh yeah, Elliott, you go. And

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Speaker 1: Matthew de Paula. I will always be so grateful to him.

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Speaker 1: He was the editor at Forbes at the time who

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Speaker 1: took me around every where and just taught me the beat.

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Speaker 1: That's how I approached it. This is a beat. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna approach this just like anything else. There are no

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Speaker 1: a great question. The first car I remember being allowed

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Speaker 1: emails to Elliott at Bloomberg. So what sort of automotive

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Speaker 1: And it's a full pickup bed. So I dragged out

427
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: to the beach house. I dragged um. You ever see

428
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: the roman arch for hammocks. I had one taking apart

429
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: it's like sixt okay, I threw that in the back.

430
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: I threw a six foot table I had taken apart.

431
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: I threw a big um four burner webber. I just

432
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: loaded up with stuff and I'm like, I got a

433
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 1: ton more room back here. So I anybody who's using stuff, Um,

434
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate having a pickup, but to me, it's like

435
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: the SUVs. So I have an X four the ex

436
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: similar to the X six or g L E that

437
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: rounded back, and friends tell me, oh, look how much

438
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: space you're giving up. I'm like, twice a year I

439
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: fill the back of the truck all the way up.

440
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: The other three days I have to look at an

441
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: ugly wrecktime. I'd rather have something that's a little sexier.

442
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: And if I really need to, I'll either make two

443
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: trips or take two cars or rent a truck if

444
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: that's what I really need. But but some people are

445
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: just can't wrap their head around does the look of

446
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: a car matter to you relative to its utility? And

447
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: if it's not your only car, Hey, listen, if I

448
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: had one car, then okay, maybe I got too many cars.

449
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: So to me, it's not issue. Um, we were discussing

450
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: building a garage. So it's the crossing over into territory.

451
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: A friend said to me, Um, one two is either

452
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: too few or two many. It's like, that's a very

453
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: good point. And and so I'm at the point where

454
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: six cars are either too few. Actually five, I totalled

455
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: my wife's panamara, everybody's fine. It was this was this

456
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: was December, um, the January five or something like that.

457
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: Five miles an hour slowed down to make a left,

458
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: and the person behind me thought I was pulling over

459
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: crossed a double yellow and you look in your review

460
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: mirror in a truck, there's no one behind me. So

461
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: I make the left and shatiboned us and Panamara Forest

462
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: got It was six months old. And the funny thing

463
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: was I got twenty four grand more than I paid

464
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: for the car because the market prices had gone up

465
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: so insane. So other than chipping my tooth and being

466
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: sore for a week, it happened in right in front

467
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: of my dentist building. So when I called and said, hey,

468
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: I chipped a tooth and car accident, I can I

469
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: come in tomorrow, She's like that wasn't you in front

470
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: our building? Wasn't I'm like, yeah, they heard, they heard boom.

471
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is the woman who was driving

472
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: the Lexus truck that hit us. She went to the hospital.

473
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: She was fine. Turned out she's fine, She's just nervous

474
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: and whatever. But it was scared and shaken up. But

475
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: my wife and I were like, black and blue car

476
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: accidents are no fun. But you know, the Panamara did

477
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: what was supposed to all the air base came down.

478
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: The only weird thing is as it's happening. I'm like

479
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: trying to recover the skid and I can't. Your brain

480
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: can't figure out what's going on because nothing's operating. You

481
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: can't see, like you're blinded. The steering wheel doesn't respond.

482
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: So when we stopped moving, I went to open the

483
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: driver door and I couldn't open the door, and I'm like,

484
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: something's wrong with the door. And I turned to my wife,

485
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you okay? There's something wrong with our door?

486
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: And people came running over to the car. They opened

487
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: hard door and took her out, and so I had

488
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: to climb over the seat to get out, and I

489
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: was genuinely shocked to see a car. Um. Yeah, it's

490
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: just And I'm like a religious signaler and so normally

491
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I would absolutely swear on a stack of Bibles that

492
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: I signaled. But the fact that the person went to

493
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: pass us makes me wonder, Hey, was this the one

494
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: time I made a left without saying only how much

495
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: of it is my fault? I don't think it was.

496
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: It's not your fault. Normally, when you're making a left,

497
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: the assumption is it's your fault, right, I mean, but

498
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: they crossed the double yellow line, so I don't look.

499
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: New York is a no fault state, so it doesn't matter.

500
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: Um But anyway, how do we get on this digression?

501
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: We were talking about trucks and space to keep your cars.

502
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: You got six cars, but now inside three inside jeep

503
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: and the you are potentially looking at Oh I am

504
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: we are at six. I got the f J. Okay,

505
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: so I have a seventy eight f J, which I

506
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: started rebuilding in sky blue with a white roof and

507
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: a black interior. You sent me a picture of that.

508
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I started rebuilding one in Columbia pre pandemic. Then we

509
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: went into lockdown and they said, listen, we can't hold

510
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: onto the car. We have to We're stuck. Like, go ahead,

511
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: sell it and we'll find another one when this is over.

512
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: So long story short, rebuild a new one, imported to

513
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: the US and January, it sits in customs for two

514
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: months because they're so backed up in Port of Miami.

515
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Finally get up here in like February March, waiting for

516
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: the last of the documentation to come in, which just

517
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: came in like a week ago. UM. I had to

518
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: get a certified translation of the purchase agreement because you

519
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: can't send them something showing a hundred million pasos in

520
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: in Spanish. They didn't want to hear that a v

521
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: And so the car gets registered this week. So that's

522
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: um so seven is too many. So the trucks are outside,

523
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: the cars are inside. But at a certain point it's

524
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta make a decision. Am I going

525
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: to build a garage for all these things? And it's

526
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: work keeping six cars? Definitely, Yes, this is a part

527
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: time job, just maintained, making sure the registrations are current,

528
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: and making sure the batteries are and the insurance. And

529
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I put a trickle charger on the vets. Okay, wait,

530
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: what corvette do you have? Sixty seven, Coop? I didn't

531
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: know that. Ye all these show up on the way.

532
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: I've been looking for a corps. I want to see

533
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: three white Sony C three is the Corvette of my youth,

534
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: like when I was in high school, was still ten

535
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: years before that, but you know, they were used cars.

536
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: Guys would buy a you know, a ten year old vet,

537
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: and like I came very close to getting a sixty

538
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: nine and yellow over black, and the prices hadn't gone up,

539
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: and I started seeing the C twos and I'm like,

540
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: these are just the most amazingly They're just so gorgeous there.

541
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: I you know, I just saw one. I follow this

542
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: thing called hobby car Corvettes, and I just saw they've

543
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: got a white one in my birth year for sale

544
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, and I really red. Okay, C three series,

545
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't get the automatic California traffic though, I don't

546
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: want to sit in So here's here's the one thing

547
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: you have to know about the old vets, Okay, their tractors. Well,

548
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: we know that with every old Lamborghini, the clutch is heavy,

549
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: the steering heavy. This is where you want an automatic.

550
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 1: I have drum brakes on this, which, by the way,

551
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the knuckle of the sea. I

552
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: try and rotate all the cars out on the road

553
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: once a week, although you know, on a daylight today

554
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: when it's raining cats and dogs, it's not it's not

555
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: coming out of the garage. Um, But it is to

556
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: your point, it is a bit of a chore to

557
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: maintain it. Six too many? Do you need twenty and

558
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: a guy or like four? You know we have we

559
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: each have a daily driver. So when I was younger,

560
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: we each had a daily driver and there would be

561
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: a convertible on the garage. So we had an old

562
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: desk l for a long time, and then we had

563
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: a Z four so there was always a fun car

564
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: that we could take out on weekends. And you know

565
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: what a third car? Hey, you start it once a month?

566
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: Who kimes six cars? It's just it starts to be working.

567
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: It's like cats, but for car guys keep acquir you know,

568
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: like the crazy cat lady just keeps taking them in, right,

569
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: That's that's what starts to happen. And once you go

570
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: beyond a couple of cars just for what you need,

571
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: it's well, what is the difference between having four extra

572
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: cars and six extra cars? Not a lot? It's volume.

573
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: It's excessive, right, either way is excessive. But my partner

574
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: thinks I'm insane. My partners at work look at me

575
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: and like, how many cars are you gonna buy? And

576
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, Well, what about during the

577
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: this market, isn't it wouldn't it be a bit smarter

578
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: to put some cash into a car rather than I mean,

579
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I have my own theories about that, and I've been

580
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people about it, But you

581
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: know what, I hear at these elevated prices because I'm

582
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: talking to collective old cars sold cars. Okay, how old

583
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: is old? You know something something twenty years or older, vintage. Well,

584
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: the vet is fifty years old and that's probably appreciated

585
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: quiet it has since I got that. Last summer, in

586
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic, I kind of accidentally bought

587
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: an R eight on bring a trailer. So my I'm

588
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: sitting outside reading a book and my wife says, John

589
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: from Salt Lake City on the phone, and you know,

590
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: I have bids out on fars and bids and bring

591
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: a trailer like away from the market constantly. And you know,

592
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: my credit card company thinks I'm crazy because you know

593
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: they put the whole and um and I picked Hi,

594
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: can I help you? Congratulations on the car, and I'm like,

595
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: what which car? And he said the R eight. I'm like,

596
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: I won that. Really, that's fantastic. I will wait a second.

597
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Are you sure I was way off the market. And

598
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: as I say that, I'm like, oh, this isn't life

599
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: to tape. You just stepped in it. And he said,

600
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: well tell you the truth. He goes, as you have

601
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: any idea with the reserves, I'm like, no, how would

602
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: I know that? He said, because two days ago I

603
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: spoke to burn a Trailer and they took me into

604
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Long Reserve. He goes, you just barely beat out the

605
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: reserve and I'm like, why did you lower the price?

606
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: He's like, well, I have a new Ferrari coming. I

607
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: make a room in the garage. Okay. So I'm like, listen,

608
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of the car. I love

609
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: the gated shifter, and I think the V ten is

610
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: kind of cheating as much fun as it is. The

611
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: V eight in that is is a monster. Um so

612
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: he so everything was. He was a little miffed at

613
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: me because this was April of It took me like

614
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: six weeks to arrange insurance and shipping because nobody was

615
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: doing anything. So he I actually got an email from

616
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Bring a Trail which is like, hey, what's going on.

617
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, nobody's shipping cars. He was in Utah

618
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, nobody's shipping cars. I can't get

619
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: my insurance company on the phone. What am I gonna do?

620
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: Trust me, I will wire the money in advance. I

621
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: just need to straighten all this stuff out. You need

622
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: the cash I'll send the money today, just him. So

623
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: so it was It was interesting because when the car arrived,

624
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I had all my paperwork, I had my insurance, I

625
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: had my inspection, but d m V was closed. You

626
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: couldn't register the car. So I would take I would

627
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: take the auction. I would have a whole file, and

628
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I would go out each morning at seven am. And

629
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: there's nobody on the road. There's no joggers, there's no

630
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: no bicyclists, there's no other cars, and there are no police.

631
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: So my local side roads became at that and that

632
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: lasted about two months, three months, and then you know,

633
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm not an idiot. I want people their bicyclists or

634
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: pedestrians or fun time is over seven am. In the

635
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic, there was a little sweet spot

636
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: in there. It was a huge really get out on

637
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: the road. I remember we drove once from Santa Monica

638
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles to downtown in about twelve minutes, and

639
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: we were not even speeding that much. It was just

640
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: open nobody. Usually that drive takes an hour at least.

641
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: So I had my like stack of papers. I was

642
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: fully anticipating a calm sation with the local constable saying,

643
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: are you a booster an chance? Um? Years ago, I

644
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: used to do that. I kind of stopped because it's

645
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: a little it's just a little dirty feeling sometimes and

646
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I would rather charm my way out of a ticket.

647
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Saw the badges, the courtesies, they don't work the way

648
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: they use. I never had one, but I always just

649
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of a nice thing. I had

650
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: one from someone I worked with. A long story. I

651
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: did some work for uh, the family of someone who

652
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: passed away, and I got a shield as a thank you.

653
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: And in New York City the shield worked great, but

654
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: once it stopped working. In Nassau County, I I remember

655
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: coming home from somewhere and getting pulled over and the

656
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: cop was like apologetic, and he's like, listen, we we

657
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: just can't. Hey man, you gotta so I learned as

658
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: a kid just painfully honest with cops. Yes, when cops

659
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: only over, it's like the scene from Liar Liar, That's

660
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: how I am. And usually they basically, you know, they

661
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: appreciate not blowing smoke up there behind because they're lied

662
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: to all day long. Must be so right, So you know,

663
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: tell the officer when he says how fast were you going?

664
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: I said, well, officer, as I drove by, I saw

665
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: you and I looked down and I looked at thedometer,

666
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: and he goes and what did it say? It said,

667
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: pull over because this office is going to have a

668
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: few words with you. And they laugh, and yeah, you're

669
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: being honest with them. You don't have to say, you know,

670
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I was twenty five over. You could say I thought

671
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: you would want to have that down for my future,

672
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: thought you would like to have it yet and you

673
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: want to make you drive too far? That's it's really courtesy.

674
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of your favorite columns of

675
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: recent days. Starting with I mentioned Evi's and Harley's. Let's

676
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: combine that Harley, Yeah, tell us about that cool bike.

677
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: No clutch, right, no clutch, you don't have, no gears,

678
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: no oil to replace, none of that. No rumble, no growl.

679
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: What do they do for sound? Does have a sound?

680
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: You know? It's like a worrying sound. It's if you're

681
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: a Harley guy who's going to need the loud pipes,

682
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna object. Probably so as a kid writing dirt bikes,

683
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: the expression always loved was loud pipes says, So what

684
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: would you guys say, if you're relying on your alloud

685
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: pipes to keep you safe, yeah, that's your trouble. Yeah,

686
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: you gotta be heads up and and honestly, you can

687
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: do everything right and you can still get in trouble

688
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle. So I think, yes, loud pipes are

689
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: can be nice, but that should not be your safety plans.

690
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: The problem is when people see you coming, they see

691
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: a little blurp instead of a big car. Your brain

692
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: assumes you're further away. So the pipes kind of compensate

693
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: for that. Uh potentially. And I would say on this

694
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: the live Wire one, there is a noise associated with Yeah,

695
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: it's not a loud pipe, but you could hear it. Um.

696
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: And actually I am a big supporter. I think it

697
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: makes sense for Harley to start having electric bikes. I

698
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: love electric motorcycles. Actually, the act of riding a motorcycle

699
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: I think is actually made more pure on an electric bike. Quiet. Yeah,

700
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: it's not disturbed by And I admit I am not

701
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: a hardcore biker. I'm not someone who has to ride

702
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: a bike every day. I enjoy it, but hey, I

703
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: love the idea that you don't have to have um,

704
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, ears and nerves that are afraid because you've

705
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: been on the bike all day and it's very loud,

706
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: and it's been vibrating, and you've got the smell of

707
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: the oil and just dirt. You don't have any of that,

708
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: which I love. I and the Live Wire one I

709
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: think is a great example. Zero does a great job.

710
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: Zero is California based UH motorcycle maker and they have

711
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: been around for years now and there's one in front

712
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: of my office that every day. I love them. They

713
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: I think they look very cool, they're powerful, they're nimble, um,

714
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: they don't have any of the cultural baggage baggage that

715
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: Harley might have. Um. And they're well made. They're awesome.

716
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: You can recharge those in forty five minutes too, basically full,

717
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: which is a lot better charging proposition than a car.

718
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: So I'm a big fan. I really liked it. I

719
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: did like the Live Wire one. They're coming out with

720
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 1: an S two edition which has like a very cool

721
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: livery on it and looks more like an off road

722
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: bike that I think would be cool. Um, So I'm

723
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: looking forward to that too. Actually, that company is no

724
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: longer owned Holly by Harley Davidson they've taken on other investors,

725
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: and this is a new company that Harley spun off

726
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: UM to share technology with and stuff. So top luxury

727
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: convertibles from European supercars to US classics. There was some

728
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: great car in that list. Well I can't remember exactly

729
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: what I put on that list, but the first one

730
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: that came to my mind is convertible. I mean, friend

731
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: of mine has driven in spectacular if you can get

732
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: the turbos. Get the turbos. Didn't because he wanted a

733
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: stick shifting, and I think they stop them that I

734
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't because they want the turbo to

735
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: be the fastest. And yes, intellectually I understand the duel

736
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: clutches faster than a stick, of course, but you want

737
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: to shift your own. So every and every guy talked

738
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: to that's the one thing they say. It's just really

739
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't make It makes theoretical sense maybe, but not

740
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: logical sense to your buyer if you want to sell

741
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: on them, right exactly. I came very close to buying

742
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: a twenty four nine eleven Turbo point two And how

743
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: many miles did I have on it? Not very many

744
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: and just gorgeous white over with a black interior with

745
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: red everything rich terrible love a white nine. It's just spectacular.

746
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: And why didn't you buy it? Because I couldn't rationalize

747
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: the price because because the same price. Um no, I

748
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: think we're we peeked and sort of slipped a little

749
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: bit in price and the price it was offered at

750
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: while we were looking at it, like literally like watching

751
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: the ticker. Yeah, it just kept going up and up.

752
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: It was like watching the guests roll over. But man,

753
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: another convertible I love, back to your point, the Bentley

754
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Continental GtC. So the only problem with that convertible is

755
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: the coup is so spectacular. Yeah, but don't pull it

756
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: against the I mean the coup for sure. I think

757
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: one year, the year that it first came out, it

758
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: might have been version Version that was my favorite car

759
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: of the year. It's so it's just perfect. Those quilted seats,

760
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: they're just it's so the one. So we all have regrets.

761
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: I have a question about regrets. I came this close

762
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: on bring a trailer. I ended up getting the R

763
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: eight instead to getting a white on white um GtC

764
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: coop not convertible, but it was the eights someone they're

765
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: not which is fine for me, and um, and I

766
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: just didn't pull the trigger or you know before in

767
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: your another column of yours is how to buy cars

768
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: online auctions, and I one of the rules you put

769
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: down is one of my rules, you figure out in

770
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: advance with the prices, and you don't go over that price.

771
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: And the car sold for two grand over as far

772
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: as I want to go. And that's one one of

773
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: them that got away the white And why at the

774
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: time you could not have known that you were so close,

775
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean right, that's why you thought it was going

776
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: to keep my wife's panamera. I So every now and

777
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: then you've got a bunch of people that have been

778
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, just falling around with the auctions.

779
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: You could tell when someone is in a areus byre

780
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 1: and and so you want to just have a knockout punch.

781
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: That's sort of don't do the nickel and dime thing,

782
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: right and so, and you know, maybe you pay a

783
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollars more, but you just scare everybody away. And

784
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: I was shocked we got that car because the M

785
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: S r P. And you could go to Monroney Labels

786
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: to pull up the original M S r P sticker

787
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: with all the options and what it literally cost except

788
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: Ferraris don't work with that, but it works with most

789
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: other other brands. And the Lunatic Coopard, not a Panamara

790
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Turbo or a GTS of Fors which is like middle

791
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: of the line paid a hundred and sixties something for

792
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: the car. They literally must have just gone che che

793
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: che ch check every option and so you get to

794
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: pay well less than half of that. That's a great

795
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: deal for a use car. And and then you know

796
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: the insurance company will pay you. Now you have to

797
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: you pay more for market price or a stated value

798
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: with your insurer. But hold that aside. Um, give me

799
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: one other convertible that you really because there's nothing to

800
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: dislike about the Bentley except you know their maintenance is expensive,

801
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: and there they become more reliable for sure. No, the

802
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: seven L T, I mean, if you want to talk

803
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: high high high in supercars. I liked it in part

804
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: because it was quote unquote more drivable than some of

805
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: the contemporaries, just in terms of invisibility. I mean these

806
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: things to me honestly, and I say this knowing we

807
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: are very spoiled people. Yes, they're not relaxing and enjoyable

808
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: to drive in city conditions, well, especially the special Sport

809
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: edition there too. Frenetic, yes, and you know you always

810
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: see the guys who like put them on a trailer

811
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: to five blocks away from there they wanted. I've literally

812
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: seen this at clubs in New York City to some

813
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: unloading and then he pulls it around in front of it.

814
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: Was that because they don't want to put the mileage on.

815
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: I think it's everything you know, cobble stones. They don't

816
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: want to put the mileage on. It's who wants to

817
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: do that. I love my M six because it's got

818
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: the settings for regular and then you can upgrade the steering,

819
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: the suspension and the engine so you could go drive

820
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: like a human. Hey let's have some fun. Okay, full

821
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: blown hole again. And that's a convertible with the stick

822
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: shift and I can never give that up because the

823
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: eight is now also dual clutch, no more stick and

824
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I just think that's such a delightful car. Um. But

825
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: it's not a hypercar. The McLaren is a hyper car.

826
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: What's the what's the interior like? Is it? It's great?

827
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: I mean it's very like I would say. It's back

828
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: to our conversation about screens versus buttons. It's a nice medium. Yeah.

829
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's enough space to put like a cup

830
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: of coffee. You know, some of these cars don't even

831
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: have a holder. There's there's no cup holders in half

832
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: the Ferrari. Yeah, there are some nods to practicality that

833
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I think, let's be realistic. Just because you're driving a

834
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: supercar doesn't mean you're not going to have a coffee.

835
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: So with my car club, when we go out, a

836
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: bunch of us will go out, we will stop for coffee,

837
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: throw the cups away, and then everybody gets in and

838
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: drives and go right. Because I hope you still listen

839
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: to the radio in your supercar um and not just

840
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: the sound of the engine. So so some of the

841
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: guys in the group, all of my cars are you know,

842
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: modest comparatory, so my Audie or BMW. Although the funny

843
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: thing is the car that attracts more attention everybody loves

844
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: is the Vet and and it's like that light nasal

845
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: blue with a white interior, like white interior. It's as

846
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: gorgeous as as any car ever made. There aren't many

847
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: in l A that said. A buddy has a Ferrari

848
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: F four thirty without the stick. He got the F

849
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: one in a in a spider and there is no

850
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: radio in that. I mean there is one. I don't

851
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: know if it's ever been on the top down the

852
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: v H right over your shoulder. It's astonishing, right, And

853
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: that's his second Ferrari because the F fifty was his

854
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: first love. And then he decided, Uh, life is short,

855
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a convertible. Also, I think a

856
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: lot of people are feeling that, you know, you only

857
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: live once in post pandem and you don't know when

858
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: your number comes up. Sometimes you roll and if you

859
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: can afford it. I think we're all feeling that, right.

860
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: So there's a difference between me running around and spending

861
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: fifty grands on a stupid little car and other people

862
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: dropping multi six figures. And you know the thing I

863
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: love about the BMW is my all changes forty bucks

864
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: and you bring the Ferrari in and it's two thousand

865
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: dollars by the time you're done with Oh, I had

866
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: to replace some belts and a filter. I gave you

867
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: a discount. It's that's a different experience in lifestyle. And

868
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: let's just say, if you're gonna be very concerned about

869
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: that type of maintenance on your car or minor you know,

870
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: fixing minor things like things or chips or whatever. You

871
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: probably can't afford the car, because you've got to be

872
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: able to afford the car and what it's going to

873
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: cost comfortably, be able to sleep at night so that

874
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: you're not just being a jerk about it about who

875
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: sits in it or who parks. You gotta d you

876
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: gotta enjoy it. You can't worry about the mileage right

877
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: in fact, crest that amount of resources to spind on it.

878
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you can afford it. Really,

879
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: His ferraris have what are what have kept me away?

880
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: Because every like the other day they were both in

881
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: the shop and he's like, you want to go for

882
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: a ride? I said, and he's like, I got no cars?

883
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Where's the eleven? So the struggle

884
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: is real. These are these are very back and forth

885
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: from the Burbs into New York City every day in

886
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: the nine eleven convert doable with a stick. So so yeah, right,

887
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: it's yeah, the struggle is really absolutely so. A couple

888
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: of other pieces I got to ask about Mercedes trimming

889
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: entry level cars to focus on high end. Yeah. I

890
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: have a vivid recollection of when Mercedes was, why are

891
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: you going down market? You're going for volume, you're high end. No,

892
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: we have to do this in order to expand our

893
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: reach and blah blah blah. Yes, what happened they realized

894
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: they don't have to anymore. I think they got tired

895
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: of competing with BMW for the biggest luxury automaker, and

896
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: they started making these super high end um you know

897
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: series uh, with the A, MG, G T, with their

898
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: G wagons that just as we spoke about our over

899
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: two dollar versions, um, they are doing more with the

900
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: my Bok brand, which which was it's it's it's very

901
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: touch and go. Some years they make cars, some years

902
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: they don't. And I've asked them about it and they

903
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: just said, well, you know, some years sometimes right. But

904
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: the years that they do make the my Bok, it's

905
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: so profitable for him. And I just think there they

906
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: were already slicing the pie so thinly. I couldn't, you know,

907
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: my job was to think about this. I couldn't even

908
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: look at a car and tell you what C series

909
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: it was, C Class it was, or you know, the

910
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: A class or is an ear, you know, it's it

911
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: was becoming a very thinly sliced pie. And I think

912
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: the same was happening to margins. But then, you know,

913
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: you start to realize this trend of there seems to

914
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: be no lack of people wanting to spend money on cars,

915
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And when you start to personalize

916
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: it and offer all of these special editions and way

917
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: to make it your own, especially in the higher models,

918
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: the profits are so lucrative there you don't have to

919
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: make the lower one. Right. Look at BMW, well there's

920
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: no longer one, but there's a two with three or

921
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: four or five. They stopped the six, seven and eight,

922
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: and then on the trucks is an X one x

923
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: two x three x four X free. Now in the

924
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: eyes the electric version, you know, the I X, the

925
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: I three, the I eight of course, which let's put

926
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: a pin on that we need a new car, a

927
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: halo car from BMW that I ate was almost a

928
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: fabulous car. They put that dumb three cylinder engine in there.

929
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: If they would have put the M three twin turbo six,

930
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: that would have been a monster. That would have been

931
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: a like that car for the agent. I love that

932
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: car and everyone. They beat everyone when that came out,

933
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: that hybrid that wasn't Yeah, and now it's like, well,

934
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: what have you really followed that with In terms of

935
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: something that's exciting. They've got evs, but nothing that's really exciting.

936
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: That I ate with a real engine would have been

937
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: the first hybrid supercar out there. So so let's talk

938
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: about hybrid supercars. You did a column on Rema and

939
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: what they're doing for Porsche Bugatti, whoever else so interesting

940
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Porsche Bugatti brand, this brand, I mean, mate, Remac is

941
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: a young man. When I spoke with him last year

942
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: at Pebble Beach, he was around thirty. Don't really, he

943
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: is a young man together. He's got The amount of

944
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: money that he's got Porsche giving him to make components

945
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: and other things that they won't talk about is fascinating.

946
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: I think this is really it's already his Remax are gorgeous.

947
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: Also gorgeous. Um and I'm already working on They tell

948
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: me they're going to have a production car that I

949
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: can get into in the States, um next month, no kidding.

950
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: And when is it going to be for sale? We

951
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: have no idea, I don't know. Yeah, that's the weird

952
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: thing is like, why are you telling me about cars? Now?

953
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: This is why as a reviewer, this is a problem

954
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: I had with the Cadillac Lyric. They have us in

955
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: a car, but then they tell us, well, it's it's

956
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: not a production version. Right. Well, then it's like that

957
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: means that any thing I say that's wrong with it,

958
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: you guys can just say, well, it was a pre production. Meanwhile,

959
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: they've sent a few out but they won't say how many.

960
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: And then the next batch is going to be around

961
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: in so it's it's still a year in the future.

962
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: Might as well claim sculpture. Yeah, get us excited a

963
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: year from now. This is very anti climactic. Yeah, yeah,

964
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: to say, to say the very least, let's talk about

965
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: my favorite column of yours. Want to take up track driving,

966
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: don't make these rookie mistakes. So how often you want

967
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: a track where you're really letting loose? I would say

968
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: five times a year. Okay, yeah, I try to get

969
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: up twice a year, but that's great for me. It's

970
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: like if Fugatti's got something, McLaren, Lamborghini, and Ferrari, they're

971
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: all great about having people on the track. Actually, Masserati

972
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 1: just had a track day that new to to whatever

973
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: it is to twenty C whatever is the m C. Yeah,

974
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right. That's a very handsome car, Maserati

975
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: MC twenty very good looking car. We had it on

976
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: the track at Willow Springs, which is like the local

977
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: track in l A. It's old track, historic, so you're

978
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: burning through through through tires and breaks like. No, not

979
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: at all. I mean. The thing with with journalist track

980
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: days is that it's a very controlled environment. Which is

981
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 1: not to say that people don't go off the track.

982
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: People go off the track, but bad habits on the

983
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: track for well, I'll talk about for me, and I

984
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: have no pretense to being a professional car racer. I

985
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: am not pay attention. That's the number. This is the

986
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: number one. I don't believe that I lose focus so quickly.

987
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: I get bored after about two laps really, which causes

988
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: you to be very sleepy on other things. You know,

989
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: it just causes you to flood breaking and you know,

990
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: turn into early. All the other things to me come

991
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: from a lack of attention and focus. All right. So

992
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: we were just up on line rocket one with a

993
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: bunch of guys and you know you're in a full

994
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: no Mexic you have the right and then you put

995
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: the hood on, the helmet on, and you have to

996
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: kind of back your way into the seat, and can

997
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: you even turn your head? You can't. You can see

998
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: why if one drivers have to work out because your

999
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: neur the next day. And and they sent you in

1000
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: so tightly. And I don't get panic attacks. I'm not claustrophobic.

1001
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: I have no fear of heights. That sort of stuff

1002
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. They sent me in so tight I

1003
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't breathe, And for a moment, I'm like,

1004
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: this is a horrible mistake. You're going to pass out

1005
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: from lack of oxygen until you leave the pit lane

1006
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: and then you are just so hyper focused that you

1007
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: just completely forget your body. Yeah, I forgot how uncomfortable

1008
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: I was. The rest of the world fell away. It

1009
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: was just me, the wheel, the gas bathing, remember to breathe.

1010
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: You don't even think about it. Just autonomous system takes over.

1011
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: I will say, I don't know how you lose. Actually,

1012
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: this was in a roush Mustang, which is what sevener.

1013
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: What do you do in in like a full blown midden?

1014
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Like it's like Ferdinand out in the pasture. I'm just

1015
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: looking at daisies. I will say, I will say, I think, um,

1016
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: everybody will improve their on street driving by having a

1017
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: track day, for sure, because it first of all the

1018
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: proper placement of your arms and your knees and your legs.

1019
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: I think most people get completely wrong the moment they

1020
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: get into a car first time. It's skip barber. You're

1021
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: doing these these different skill trainings and these different semi

1022
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: courses before you own the track. And the instructor is

1023
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: constantly tenant. Both hands ten and two, both hands on

1024
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: the wheel with an elbow, and so he's like, you

1025
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: drop your hand off the wheel to shift gears, keep

1026
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: your three whatever is really what you want to have

1027
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: with a ninety degree angle angle. But they want your

1028
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: thumbs over lightly slightly light touch. So the skid pad.

1029
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: So we got to use the new supers on the

1030
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: skid pad. And you know, I'm pretty good at recovering

1031
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: from a skid, but it's a little frenetic. And this

1032
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: instructor said, dude, just relax, just leave flow. Suddenly, it's

1033
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: just light easy, smooth is fast. Smooth is fast correct.

1034
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: And the other thing I think really it does really

1035
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: teach you is to keep your eyes up and look ahead,

1036
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: look where you want to go. If you're looking at

1037
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: the corner, it's already too late. You've got to be

1038
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: looking at the next one already. And I think that

1039
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: really helps you. When you're on the street driving, just

1040
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: anticipate where other people are, what they're doing, Stay alert,

1041
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: stay focused far ahead, not just down the hood of

1042
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: your car, but be thinking like two or three turns ahead,

1043
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: and everything else will flow from that, especially when you're driving. Sist. Yeah,

1044
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: you can't look thirty ft ahead. You're already to slam

1045
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: on the brake. It's going to stop. You have to

1046
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: look way past that. It's really interesting. What other rookie

1047
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: mistakes do you want to? Um? The other thing that

1048
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: I do find myself, I'll just speak for myself, because

1049
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: you know why not, UM, don't focus on the other people,

1050
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: focused on your own line on the track. That's the

1051
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: number one thing, you know. If you if you get

1052
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: so that for me, if I get so wrapped into

1053
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: trying to keep up with so and so who's in

1054
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: front of me, or so and so who I think

1055
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: is coming breathing down my back, I'm going to get

1056
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: all tents and all anxious and whatever, and I'm not

1057
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: going to have the best line going into a turn.

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Come yeah. But you know, um, sometimes you're in two groups.

1059
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: One group might overtake another group, you know. Of course,

1060
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: then there's always someone who's going to be sort of

1061
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: behind the pack, and sometimes you end up lapping them.

1062
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: So it can be a little bit like we had

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01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: a guy tap out, not with our group, with a

1064
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: different group. He was like, I just stressful. Yeah, here's

1065
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: the crazy thing. You're following. The fun thing about the instructors.

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01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: You're in these hopped up seven horsepower Ford Mustang Raush

1067
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: editions or the last time we were there was R

1068
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: S four's, Non elevens and M three's and they're driving

1069
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: street cars. They're driving Ultimus cameras and it's all you

1070
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: can do to keep up with them because they are

1071
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: so good. But but here's the thing that I kind

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01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: of figured out about halfway through the track day was

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01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm in a high performance track tuned vehicle.

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01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: If the camera can make it through with the speed,

1075
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this car can. And once you get

1076
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: that in your head, it's like people saying, wow, are

1077
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: you a flying around the track. I was just doing

1078
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: what he was doing. The assumption is if he made

1079
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: it through the earn, I'm gonna make I'm just following

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: his Really, see, the driver makes all the difference. I've

1081
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: seen some of the pros. They'll take a minivan out

1082
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: just for fun and lead the journalists around in a

1083
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: mini I mean, it's hilarious and there we're still doing

1084
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: all we can just to keep up, because it really does.

1085
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: You know, a good driver in a bad car is

1086
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: probably always going to be better and faster than a

1087
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: bad driver in a good car. So you get to

1088
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: go on tracks five times? Yeah, yeah, their cars? Yeah,

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: the car. How often you do anything where you're not

1090
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: reviewing a car where you're just reviewing the track? Like

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01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, did did you do the Was

1092
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: it the Lamborghini driving school or the Mercedes? I did

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: a Ferrari driver which great memory, which I would just plug.

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01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, every major well worth it, right, completely well

1095
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: worth it. Anyone can google Ferrari Driving School, BMW Driving School,

1096
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: Asid Martin driving School, any of these, they all have

1097
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: driving schools. They are so fun. The instructors are like

1098
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: your best code, your favorite coach. They're there to help

1099
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: you succeed there. It's fun. You can do it with

1100
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: family members, you know, friends, co workers. I highly recommend it.

1101
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: And that was to your point, less about the car

1102
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: and more to just about improving as a driver, like

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: you really can't the average driver is not going to

1104
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: be running a Ferrari at the limits of its perm No.

1105
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the point that it makes

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: when you do get back on the road. It makes

1107
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: that driving so much more pleasant because you're aware of

1108
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: what a car can really do, so that you're not

1109
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: intimidated just to drive on the highway. I mean, because

1110
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: you've seen, even if you aren't driving it yourself, you

1111
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: see the instructors do things with cars that are unbelievable,

1112
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: and you realize we are normal everyday driving. We don't

1113
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: get near the limits what can do. And I recall

1114
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: being on the highway a couple of years ago and

1115
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: there was an incident that the only reason I managed

1116
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: not to plow into this accident in front of me

1117
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: was because of the training that they had. So you know,

1118
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: there's only so much traction on a tire. You can

1119
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: either put it all on breaking and put it on turning,

1120
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: but you can't do both, and that's how people get

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 1: into trouble. And I remember saying, I'm I'm just gonna

1122
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: stay with the break as long as I can loosen

1123
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: up and turn away. But I had to bleed off

1124
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: that speed. And you know, if it was skip Barber,

1125
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: I would have been the third or fourth car in

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: that you kind of realize, Okay, it's weight management a

1127
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: lot of the time when you're especially if you're like, well,

1128
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: it's it's weird. It's whether the car is sitting on

1129
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: the on the back tires or sitting on the front tires.

1130
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: And that transition is also where a lot of people

1131
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: get control. So so let's talk about one other piece

1132
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: you wrote that I have to ask about, which is

1133
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 1: this sort of ode to l A. You did tell

1134
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that, and you're kind of

1135
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: bicoastalk l A. Tell us about l A and what's

1136
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: New York like these days? UM, I would say first

1137
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: of all that I love New York more than anything.

1138
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: I identify as a New Yorker. I've I've lived here

1139
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 1: for seventeen years. I'm originally from Oregon, but really came

1140
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: Do you still have an apartment here, but I do

1141
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: have a driver's license. I'm a New York Booster through

1142
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: and through. But I will say California has two things

1143
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: that New York doesn't have. Actually, I like that. I

1144
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: like the seasons. I like the weather in in New York.

1145
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: I prefer it because California just boring. No. I love winter.

1146
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: That's my second favorite season in New York behind fall. Anyway,

1147
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: California has better Mexican food than New York City, and

1148
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: it has better car culture. I have to say that

1149
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: the right the driving roads in in and around Los

1150
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: Angeles especially are world class. And I have been everywhere.

1151
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: The roads there are phenomenal, especially during COVID when driving

1152
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: was the only thing we could really do. It really

1153
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: was wonderful to drive on the canyon roads outside Malibu,

1154
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: to drive up Angelie's crests up Highway, to to drive

1155
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: out to the desert Joshua Tree. I mean, there's so

1156
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: many options specific Coast Highway of course. Um So that

1157
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 1: has been really lovely. Um that said, I'm really happy

1158
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: to be back in New York. At the moment. New

1159
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: York does seem different since I've left and since COVID.

1160
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've recognized. So the residential parts of New

1161
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: York are just jamming, but you go into the town,

1162
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: it's a little it's it's funny the Bloomberg Building, which

1163
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: is now hybrid for now. Yes, a nice sunny day,

1164
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: this building is probably what a full strength but if

1165
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: you have your choice, it's pouring rain. Why am I

1166
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: going to come in today in complete? Unless I have

1167
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: a podcast? Um pre war car market? Why is for

1168
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: every reason we've just described, Because we're all sitting at

1169
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: home looking at bring a trailer with a lot of

1170
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: time in our hands. We might have some extra money

1171
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: that we haven't spent on travel or you know, we've

1172
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: pulled out of the stock market because it's a bit

1173
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 1: scary and we are just putting it into our project cars. Also,

1174
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: I think to your point, there's a sensibility of like, hey,

1175
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen in the future.

1176
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy this now, and things were meant

1177
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: to be enjoyed. Cars especially, I mean, it's it's just

1178
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: a shame when you see some of these cars and

1179
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: they're not really driven and enjoyed. That's always so there.

1180
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: I stopped even commenting on cards and bids or or

1181
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 1: bring a trailer about this. But every time I see

1182
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: a favorite car come up with like a hundred miles, yeah,

1183
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: it's like there are some Carrara gts that had very

1184
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: low mind as an investment, and you know it's like,

1185
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: come on, it's sort of when when the speculators come

1186
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: into your favorite space, the neighborhood gentrifies, you have to

1187
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: move and all the fun goes out of it. Um

1188
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: and there's like a handful of us who want about

1189
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: and everybody else shouts them down. But but that's always

1190
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: like why buy the car? So so part of the

1191
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: appeal of something like um, so I didn't get the four,

1192
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: I got three seven the vet because the or the

1193
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: sixty three for that matter, with the accidental split real window,

1194
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: which is worth a hundred grand more than my car,

1195
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: because at that price. Listen, anything you pay less than

1196
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars for you could drive and you'll

1197
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: get most of your money back if it's a collectible.

1198
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: But to three four hundred thousand allars, suddenly every mile

1199
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: you start driving has a dollar figure associated with Maybe

1200
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think for all of those cars.

1201
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: I think for some maybe, um, really special cars that

1202
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: maybe have a particular history or a racing history. Um.

1203
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I think part of the thing too,

1204
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: is there a lot more events that you can use

1205
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: your collectible car. Four. I mean rallies, meat ups, um, concourse, completely,

1206
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot more of that stuff and everyone just

1207
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: wants to do it, and you're gonna want to show

1208
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: up in something cool. So I think that's driving a

1209
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: lot of it too. And I also think it's considered

1210
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: cool to drive your car. Now. Hey man, that's how

1211
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: I roll. To me. It's it's the thought of saying, well,

1212
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: I just spent all this money and time and effort

1213
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: to keep this car running and well maintained, you know,

1214
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: to say I'm just gonna leave this. It's not good

1215
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: for the car to just sit. No. No, it's not

1216
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: the only issue I have with that is it's hard

1217
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: to find leaded gas for that last column question, Jennifer

1218
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: Connolly's nine eleven and top. So it's funny because when

1219
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: we saw the movie recently and when he pulls up

1220
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: in front of her house on the motorcycle, I leaned

1221
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: over to my wife, I'm like, nice, nine eleven. I

1222
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: bet that's hers, because why would they leave it there.

1223
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: I had no idea that that was a collector's car.

1224
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: That guy had loaned it to the two of them

1225
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: to the shoot in California too, and they found him

1226
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: through um, a couple of guys sort of in the

1227
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: leftical world. They now. I spoke with the director of

1228
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: that movie. He claims it was a loane, that the

1229
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: guy just loaned him. It didn't even charge him, you know, really, yeah,

1230
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: just because he's a car guy, he's part of this

1231
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: our group. Mean, while your car is the nine eleven

1232
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: in Maverick top gun, right, what do I have to

1233
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: pay for that price? And he he has some other

1234
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: cool cars. I did a little research, So he's just

1235
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: a car guy at ten eleven something like that. And

1236
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: and what was it Kelly McGuinness at a speedster in

1237
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: the first she had a three fifty six. Yeah, that

1238
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: actually wasn't a real one if I was a replica.

1239
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: It was a replica made by a Canadian company. But still, like, right,

1240
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean that that's good. They a frame. Yeah, no,

1241
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense, perfect, you know. And it actually

1242
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: the whole thing about the f eighteens versus the fifth generation.

1243
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: You couldn't stick with the three fifty s. Make it fresh.

1244
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about F one. Obviously, the

1245
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: Netflix show enormously yep enormously popular. I'm I'm halfway through

1246
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: the fourth season. I mean, I know there are spoilers,

1247
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: but you know it's still on it. Daniel Ricardo on

1248
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: McLaren like, he's such an interesting character, I'm kind of

1249
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: ruining for him. And then Carlos says, who moved over

1250
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: to Ferrari, Like, here's a kid who just grew up

1251
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: worshiping Ferrari. The fact that he's driving for them, you

1252
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: could just see like the glee every time he puts

1253
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,919
Speaker 1: on that red driver's suit. That that just really interesting.

1254
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: The challenging thing is wrapping your hand around the competition

1255
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: between the drivers on the same team, because it is

1256
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: supposed to be a team, right. Yeah, you know, it's

1257
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: been very interesting, especially this year, to see Lewis Hamilton's

1258
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: as he fights his way back to the top and

1259
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: how the whole team, you know, goes around him to

1260
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: make that happen. I mean, he passed Michael Schumacher in

1261
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: like just about every record. Yeah, and to your point,

1262
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: it's been great to see how George Russell has really

1263
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: taken his role as the supporter so we can get

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Speaker 1: Louis forward. They seem to have a really good working relationship.

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01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: I think in in past years with other teams it's

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: been a lot more competitive with the drivers on the

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: Mercedes team, but George Russell seems to be such a

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01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: team player. He's so young and enthusiastic, and he's so

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: good too that he really pushes Louis forward. And you know,

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01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: when you're that age, you could say, hey, my time

1271
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: will come. Avenge, the guy who runs the Mercedes Toto,

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: what's his total Wolf, such a fascinating character on the

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01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: Netflix show, as is the guy who runs the Red

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: Bull team and the guy who runs McLaren. It's really

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: it's a cast of characters, which is really um, I'm

1276
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: really glad Liberty Media has taken an aggressive stance to

1277
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: promoting Formula One in the US. I mean it's actually

1278
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: taken years and years to get proper broadcasting, proper promotion,

1279
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: proper tracks and tracks. So you have Miami, you have

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01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, which takes us we don't know those three

1281
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: for sure. Vegas is going to happen for the first

1282
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: time in this current era next year at some point

1283
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: in the fall. I think they still have yet to

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: release a date. Miami just happened. I saw the final numbers.

1285
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: They're claiming two d and forty thousand tickets, which is insane,

1286
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: like Super Bowl plus two Super Bowls. And it's so

1287
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: interesting because most of my friends are not in the

1288
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: car world, but they were asked asking me about the

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01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: Miami race. They for whatever reason, and this is all

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: from Netflix. Yes, And what Let's talk a little bit

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: about Audi and Porsche joining Formula one. What why after

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: all these years, you would have thought Porsche would have

1293
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: been right in there the whole time. Well, Porsche has

1294
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: in the past, had UM supplied parts to Formula One

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: in the past. It's been in and out, and of

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: course has focused on other racing series, including Formula E.

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01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: You know if they got a team, the racing team

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01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: with Tag Hoyer in Formula E right now. But I

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: think what has caused part of this is Formula One

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01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: has announced that they're going to be changing some of

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01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: the rules for the engines in the next few years,

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: which will allow UM new and hybrid technology, more hybrid

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01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: technology to be involved in the cars. And I think

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: brands like portion Audi are seeing they want to be there,

1305
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: they want to be there. It's growing and it will

1306
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: really truly help them develop their electric technologies for future

1307
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: consumer cars. Since we're talking about Portion AUTI let's talk

1308
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 1: about the area offerings the take Can, especially the Turbo

1309
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: spectacular car, the g t Etron other than the fact

1310
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: it was a horrible olive drab color, and these are

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: really lovely cars, yes, but they're very pricey. When do

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: these things sort of become a middle class purchase? And

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about Porsche, Like the McCanns

1314
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: starts at fifty grand and the Cayman starts at around

1315
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: the same price, so they are middle upper middle class cars.

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: But when do the evs come down, Well, I think

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: we might have to look outside the luxury automakers for

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: evs that are are priced in a very affordable way.

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01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: Hyundai has the evs that people are Korean Kia Ionic

1320
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: is which brand is that? So those cars are reasonably priced,

1321
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: fully featured, it's not like they're missing a whole lot.

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01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: But to your answer your point about Porsche, and I

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01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: don't think we're going to see affordable e vs from

1324
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: those guys. For a long time. Why I can sell

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 1: them at the high prices, so why would they need

1326
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: to go down at all. I would really consider a

1327
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: Tesla plaid the Tesla S except I have a lot

1328
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: of friends with Tesla's they're they're very ubiquitous. Well that's

1329
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: number one. It's an old design. But my real beef

1330
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: is the fit and finish of the interior. Still it's

1331
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: still a problem. And even back in the day when

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: you would just gently are a matter of fact we

1333
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: point out these cars are not well made, it was

1334
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: like you had just attacked, you know, personally attacked Elon

1335
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: Musk and you were threatening his identity and all. It's like, no,

1336
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: but I got into I got into a Taken Turbo

1337
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: the other day. It's just a spectacular And yes, because

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: it's done by a proper German automaker that has been

1339
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 1: doing this for seventies, was a really well made So

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: I I do think just because the long the longstanding

1341
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: older automakers have not done electric vehicles until now doesn't

1342
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: mean they can't. Just means they haven't had two or

1343
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: they haven't wanted to. But now that they're starting to

1344
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: make them, we're finally getting actual luxury quality fit and

1345
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: finish manufacturing, you know, body panels fitting together properly, software

1346
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: that actually works. We are not getting this from Lucid,

1347
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: Ribby and Tesla, which are startups. The one thing I

1348
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: could say about Tesla, I think there's technology, and their

1349
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: software is still way ahead of everybody else's, and the

1350
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: over the air updates way ahead of everybody else. Um,

1351
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're gonna have like a phone

1352
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: that you just put down. Eventually, I want to drive

1353
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: into the garage and have the charger to be on

1354
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: the floor and right, just just but but that's coming eventually.

1355
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: I think that's the peal of the hybrid. Now we're

1356
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: still in a transition from ice to ev of course. Yeah,

1357
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of hype around EVIS, But again,

1358
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: if you look at the reality of it, you cannot

1359
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: drive an electric vehicle ranges you know, about three that's

1360
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of the going rate. But that's really under perfect conditions.

1361
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: If it's cold, if you're driving fast, I mean really,

1362
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: in real world terms, you're going to get like over

1363
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: a hundred miles. Maybe that's not really a road trip,

1364
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, So I only have you for

1365
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: a couple of more minutes. Let's jump to our speed round,

1366
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: starting with best used car for under fifty dollars. What

1367
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: would you tell me? Can I say a collectible want?

1368
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: I want to C three Corvette? I can find them

1369
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: four easily, can find it for you can find a driver. Yes,

1370
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: And I think I keep reading these haggardy reports and

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: you know Southern Bees reports. Values are going up of

1372
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: the muscle cars in general, and I think they look

1373
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: so cool. I think they're about to hit their stride alright,

1374
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: best collectible under a grand if you can get a

1375
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: like on a higher mileage, so you're going to pay less.

1376
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: I still think values for those are going up. They have, Yes,

1377
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: they have been going up. But I don't see any

1378
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: reason why those are not going to stop gaining value. Really, wow,

1379
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to regret passing on that, honestly, I think so.

1380
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think mileage matters. I really don't. If

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01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: it if the car has been maintained, if it's had

1382
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: at least in California, and they'll first exactly California car,

1383
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: call it one or two owners, properly maintained with a

1384
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: good ledger of records. Hey, if it's got a lot

1385
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: of miles, but it's been taken care for care above.

1386
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: What car would you own if money was no object? Uh?

1387
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: Mercedes going that's mine? Also, that's a good pick. I

1388
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: did not plan that. That's what came from my heart.

1389
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: But it's the of if you saw the pull Newman version,

1390
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: the sort of light blue with the plaid seats. Oh

1391
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: did you see the SLR unlot coope that sold for you?

1392
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: Wrote a column on how do you ensure that? I

1393
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: mean that was there when they announced the sale. It's

1394
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: a made up number. I don't really believe it was

1395
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: a private auction orchestrated very closely. But exciting nonetheless, but

1396
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: that line of cars is gorgeous. Insane, just insane. Um,

1397
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: So forget money at no objects? Just rationally, what's your next? Irresponsible?

1398
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: Don't purchase? Well, I know I keep saying this, but

1399
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: I really do want to see three Corvette. I'm gonna

1400
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: keep hammering now. I will never replace the seventy five

1401
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: rolls roy silver shad. Oh it's so glorious. You can

1402
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: get those for pretty inexpensive. The key is to have

1403
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: a mechanic who can work on and I do have that.

1404
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: Get parts for sure they're everywhere. And do kids pull

1405
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: up next to you and tell about great pupa or

1406
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: do you do you get that? I've had people send

1407
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: me Greay BP, the that's a little Packet's the little

1408
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: package I sent me back. And the one great thing

1409
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: about that car in l A. You know, it's all

1410
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: just a real big ego contest with cars in l A.

1411
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: Going out in Beverly Hills, you know, roll up in

1412
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: that car, you're keeping your own anybody right exactly center.

1413
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: And that car is not an expensive car. It makes

1414
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: you feel like a million bucks though, when all those

1415
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 1: other guys have every other thing. It's great. Last two questions,

1416
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,839
Speaker 1: what's the fastest car you've ever been in? Oh? Well, Bugotti,

1417
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: of course right. And now here's the trick question. Not

1418
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: the fastest car you've ever been in, but what's the

1419
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: fastest you've ever driven? Well, I would say I was

1420
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: on the track in Spain with Ferrari earlier this year

1421
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: and I don't know, we probably were one sixty or

1422
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: so on the backstretch. That's that's you know, auto speed,

1423
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: ye all right, but prober not kilometery. But but I

1424
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: hope you're you're paying attention and not getting distracted. No,

1425
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 1: I was in that moment. I was paying attention. I

1426
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 1: think it. I think that that would tend to focus

1427
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: your attention. Um. All right, so let's jump to our

1428
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: favorite questions that we ask all of our guests, starting

1429
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: with tell us what you're streaming these days? What kept

1430
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: you entertained during the pandemic? Okay, the most recent within

1431
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, Mayor of Kingstown with Jeremy Renner.

1432
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: Have you watched this at all? No, it looks it

1433
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: looks like disturbing. It's very violent, but it's very good.

1434
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's incredible. Um. The guy from Brotherhood's in it,

1435
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: the main brother who played the cop. Um. I don't

1436
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: want to spoil anything with that, but I binge that

1437
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: completely love it, Mayor of Kingstown. A little bit violent. Um.

1438
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I just started since

1439
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: being here in New York. That was a recommendation from

1440
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: Ian who colors my hair, is Hacks and I had

1441
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: seen that good, asked it a million times and He's like, no,

1442
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: you really need to give it a look. And I've

1443
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: watched like five episodes, just back to back to back.

1444
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: My problem with binging something like that is there's only

1445
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: three seasons. Short season. You kind of want to make

1446
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: it fast, don't they know? They really do. I've been

1447
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: trying to watch less really violent stuff, and that's why

1448
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: although I've been we've been watching Outlander and some of

1449
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: the scenes are just, yeah, you know, torture. I will

1450
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: admit to covering my eyes at some point. See, no,

1451
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: I know I have no problem like literally fast forwarding

1452
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,879
Speaker 1: or covering my eyes. Uh. Tell us about your mentors

1453
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: who helped shape your career. That's a great question. Um.

1454
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: I have to say I've already spoken about Matthew to Paula,

1455
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: who was the editor who hired me at Forbes and

1456
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: who just saw this like very young trained journalist who

1457
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: knew nothing about cars and really helped me, um shape

1458
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: a perspective on it. And then Joann Mueller, who was

1459
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: the Detroit bureau chief at Forbes when I was there.

1460
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: She's now a Axios writing about transportation. She uh is

1461
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: just a beacon of hope and light and optimism. A

1462
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: true professional journalist. Love her. So yeah, Joann Mueller has

1463
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: great content. She's writing for Axios now interesting. Uh, tell

1464
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: us about some of your favorite books and what you're

1465
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 1: reading right now. I just finished Bell Hooks New Visions

1466
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: of All about Love UM, which is not a new book.

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: It's new to me. UM. It sounds a little you know,

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01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: gues she but it's a really beautiful book about how

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Speaker 1: our culture UM lacks love in the culture. And it

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Speaker 1: just felt reading it, it felt like really just a

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Speaker 1: bomb because we all have had quite a chaotic, uh

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Speaker 1: aggressive five years, and it has seemed that people are

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Speaker 1: really becoming polarized in tribal and you know, and so

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Speaker 1: reading that it really was a beautiful commentary on the

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Speaker 1: importance of love UM in addition to romantic love, brotherly love,

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Speaker 1: love for others, love for self UM, for giving parents

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Speaker 1: for not loving you perfectly. UM. It was really a

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Speaker 1: great book. And then the other one that I I'm

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Speaker 1: still going through is called The Artist Way, which is

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Speaker 1: by Julia Cameron. It's an old one. My wife is

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Speaker 1: a yes. It's so it's the type of book that

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Speaker 1: you just want to reread every like ten years or so,

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Speaker 1: because it really does sort of free you up from

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Speaker 1: whatever thing you're locked into. It's great for people who

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Speaker 1: we're creative as children and every child is created. The

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Speaker 1: point of the book is every child is creative somewhere

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Speaker 1: along the way that gets pushed out from a lot

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Speaker 1: of us. And it's just about being free as a

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Speaker 1: creative in any tiny little way. Really interesting. What sort

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Speaker 1: of advice would you give to a college grad who

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Speaker 1: was interested in a career in either journalism or automotives

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Uh, do what you're excited about. Um, I

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Speaker 1: would say two things. Don't take a job that's very

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Speaker 1: depressing to you, even if you think you should, don't

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Speaker 1: do it. Just don't do it. Um. And the second

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Speaker 1: one is, take a job where you can see where

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Speaker 1: it gets you somewhere else and to a point you

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Speaker 1: want to be, even if, yeah, even if the job

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Speaker 1: isn't perfect for you in that moment, take it if

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Speaker 1: it gets you to a point where you might want

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Speaker 1: to be, which is how it worked out for me

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Speaker 1: at Forbes. I knew I don't really necessarily want to

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Speaker 1: write about cars, but it gets me in somewhere that

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Speaker 1: I want to be. So have an open mind, a

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Speaker 1: mind open enough to be able to maybe do that

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Speaker 1: and to pivot if you need to. Um. And then also,

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Speaker 1: you know it's so cliche, but like, don't do something

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Speaker 1: that isn't exciting because if you're not excited about it,

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Speaker 1: how can you expect your readers, your clients, your your

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Speaker 1: colleagues to be excited about it if you aren't really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And our final question, what do you know about the

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Speaker 1: world of writing automobiles luxury travel today that you wish

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Speaker 1: you knew to win years or so ago when you

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Speaker 1: were really a young cub reporter. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I think what I wish I knew about the world

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Speaker 1: in general is that you can kind of do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. There are no rules. There's there's no set

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Speaker 1: thing that says you can't talk to this person, you

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Speaker 1: can't ask that person that thing, you can't try to

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Speaker 1: find out more about this just because you don't have

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Speaker 1: that background. The options are just do it. Just be

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Speaker 1: be bold, be bolder than you think you're allowed to be.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know when, at least for me, when

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Speaker 1: I was younger, it's all about trying to do the

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Speaker 1: right thing and please people, and that's a nice impulse,

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Speaker 1: but also you can be a little bit more bold

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Speaker 1: than you think you can. Really good advice. We have

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Speaker 1: been speaking with Hannah Elliott. She is the reporter covering

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Speaker 1: automobiles for Bloomberg. If you enjoy this conversation well, be

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Speaker 1: sure to check out any of the four hundred prior

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