1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,908 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,308 --> 00:00:23,828 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:25,388 --> 00:00:27,788 Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the ASC playoff picture. Speaking 5 00:00:27,828 --> 00:00:33,828 Speaker 3: of so we're considering the Broncos. We're looking at the 6 00:00:33,868 --> 00:00:38,548 Speaker 3: Texans in the seventh spot. Today are in today they 7 00:00:38,628 --> 00:00:41,228 Speaker 3: boot the Bengals. The Bills are on the right hand 8 00:00:41,228 --> 00:00:43,628 Speaker 3: side of your screen. The Raiders are five and five, 9 00:00:43,668 --> 00:00:46,348 Speaker 3: as are the Cults. But let's look at that beautiful 10 00:00:46,348 --> 00:00:48,788 Speaker 3: little Texans logo at the bottom of the screen, right 11 00:00:48,788 --> 00:00:49,348 Speaker 3: there in the middle. 12 00:00:49,428 --> 00:00:50,228 Speaker 4: You stare at it. 13 00:00:50,428 --> 00:00:53,028 Speaker 3: We have been over the last couple of years, because 14 00:00:53,108 --> 00:00:56,308 Speaker 3: it's been a tough ride for the Texans. Not so 15 00:00:56,428 --> 00:00:58,548 Speaker 3: much anymore considering the last couple of weeks and how 16 00:00:58,548 --> 00:01:01,108 Speaker 3: things are gone. Great win against the Bengals last week 17 00:01:01,108 --> 00:01:04,188 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, Peter, are you prepared to sit here now 18 00:01:04,508 --> 00:01:06,348 Speaker 3: consider them an AFC contender. 19 00:01:06,508 --> 00:01:10,948 Speaker 5: I am with obvious hesitation due to their youth and 20 00:01:11,028 --> 00:01:12,468 Speaker 5: due to the fact it's a first year coach and 21 00:01:12,508 --> 00:01:15,188 Speaker 5: all that. But I think there's a little secret sauce 22 00:01:15,228 --> 00:01:17,548 Speaker 5: to them that not everyone sees and knows, and it's 23 00:01:17,588 --> 00:01:21,668 Speaker 5: that they're not just rookie quarterback, rookie wide receiver, Tank Dell, 24 00:01:21,828 --> 00:01:25,948 Speaker 5: second year guy, Nico Collins. They've got veterans in that 25 00:01:26,068 --> 00:01:28,268 Speaker 5: locker room and a lot of veteran players who have 26 00:01:28,308 --> 00:01:31,428 Speaker 5: played in big games, like Shaq Mason has played in 27 00:01:31,628 --> 00:01:34,348 Speaker 5: fourteen different playoff games. Jerry Hughes has been in the 28 00:01:34,428 --> 00:01:38,388 Speaker 5: league forever. Jimmy wardsman on all those Niners teams. Singletary's 29 00:01:38,388 --> 00:01:41,028 Speaker 5: done the runs with the Bills. Robert Woods is on 30 00:01:41,068 --> 00:01:43,908 Speaker 5: this team. Sheldon Rankins is on this team. These are 31 00:01:44,308 --> 00:01:46,828 Speaker 5: veteran players. We didn't even talk about guys like Shaq, 32 00:01:46,868 --> 00:01:50,988 Speaker 5: Griffin and Tunzil. They have so many veteran players at 33 00:01:51,068 --> 00:01:54,628 Speaker 5: all the key position groups that lead those different position groups. So, yes, 34 00:01:54,988 --> 00:01:59,388 Speaker 5: first year coach, first year quarterback, first year wide receiver, 35 00:01:59,548 --> 00:02:01,708 Speaker 5: first year defensive end, Will Anderson, I get it, and 36 00:02:01,748 --> 00:02:04,028 Speaker 5: that's all very new. But like, I don't think a 37 00:02:04,068 --> 00:02:06,748 Speaker 5: game is it's too big for Robert Woods. He's been 38 00:02:06,788 --> 00:02:09,468 Speaker 5: on multiple playoff rides. And those are the guys who 39 00:02:09,508 --> 00:02:12,388 Speaker 5: are leading those position groups. So if you can give 40 00:02:12,428 --> 00:02:14,548 Speaker 5: that knowledge and you can pass that down a little bit, 41 00:02:14,588 --> 00:02:16,228 Speaker 5: that's great. Do you know who CJ. 42 00:02:16,428 --> 00:02:18,268 Speaker 2: Stroud's backup quarterback is? 43 00:02:18,348 --> 00:02:19,668 Speaker 5: Yes, Davis Mills. The do you know who the other 44 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:24,188 Speaker 5: one is, Case Keenum. Case Keenum's there, So it's not 45 00:02:24,428 --> 00:02:27,228 Speaker 5: like we're dealing with just all right Stroud. It's you 46 00:02:27,308 --> 00:02:28,988 Speaker 5: and a bunch of no name guys who've never been 47 00:02:29,028 --> 00:02:29,708 Speaker 5: the case. 48 00:02:29,548 --> 00:02:31,868 Speaker 2: Keenum started in an NFC championship game. 49 00:02:32,228 --> 00:02:34,308 Speaker 5: So I like the fact that there are veterans in 50 00:02:34,308 --> 00:02:35,508 Speaker 5: this Do I sell them contenders? 51 00:02:35,588 --> 00:02:37,268 Speaker 2: They're one of the top seven teams in the AFC. 52 00:02:37,428 --> 00:02:38,628 Speaker 2: Sure anyone can make a run. 53 00:02:38,948 --> 00:02:41,988 Speaker 5: Do I think they're this young neophyte, wide eyed team 54 00:02:42,028 --> 00:02:44,388 Speaker 5: that's like, oh my gosh, a big spotlight. 55 00:02:44,868 --> 00:02:44,908 Speaker 6: No. 56 00:02:45,268 --> 00:02:48,028 Speaker 5: The quarterback went to Ohio State, their first round pickout, 57 00:02:48,108 --> 00:02:51,308 Speaker 5: defense went to Alabama. Their coaches played and coached in 58 00:02:51,428 --> 00:02:53,588 Speaker 5: huge games, and they've got veterans all over the rosters. 59 00:02:53,628 --> 00:02:55,228 Speaker 2: So this is no shock to me. 60 00:02:55,668 --> 00:02:58,228 Speaker 5: If anything, this team might be a little bit more 61 00:02:58,268 --> 00:03:00,268 Speaker 5: prepared than we might expect over the down the stretch. 62 00:03:00,308 --> 00:03:01,988 Speaker 3: That's why I was going to go to with Damiko Ryans, 63 00:03:02,028 --> 00:03:03,788 Speaker 3: just considering the games that he could have coached in 64 00:03:03,788 --> 00:03:06,628 Speaker 3: in the situation. Is watching Shanahan handle himself in certain 65 00:03:06,788 --> 00:03:08,908 Speaker 3: times during his time in San Francisco. 66 00:03:08,508 --> 00:03:10,188 Speaker 4: Yeah, the stage doesn't seem too bright for them. 67 00:03:10,668 --> 00:03:12,268 Speaker 6: It's a great point you bring up because you know 68 00:03:12,308 --> 00:03:14,588 Speaker 6: you're so focused on the young quarterback and how is 69 00:03:14,588 --> 00:03:17,028 Speaker 6: he going to handle this franchise that you know when 70 00:03:17,068 --> 00:03:19,748 Speaker 6: you get drafted that high, like you're coming into a 71 00:03:19,788 --> 00:03:23,308 Speaker 6: rebuild basically, and first year head coach, first year coordinator first, 72 00:03:23,548 --> 00:03:27,388 Speaker 6: you know, rookie quarterback. Like they have not blinked once 73 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:30,308 Speaker 6: at all, and as good as they have been offensively, 74 00:03:30,628 --> 00:03:32,708 Speaker 6: I'm with you on this defense right now. I can't 75 00:03:32,708 --> 00:03:35,948 Speaker 6: believe the turnaround that Demico Ryans has done with this defense. 76 00:03:35,948 --> 00:03:37,068 Speaker 4: We talked about it yesterday. 77 00:03:37,148 --> 00:03:38,628 Speaker 6: They were the worst defense in the league last year, 78 00:03:38,628 --> 00:03:43,148 Speaker 6: if the worst rushing defense certainly at that and yet 79 00:03:43,268 --> 00:03:46,028 Speaker 6: they've not only stopped the run, Will Anderson's making plays, 80 00:03:46,348 --> 00:03:48,828 Speaker 6: they've done a great job getting after the quarterback. John 81 00:03:48,868 --> 00:03:53,108 Speaker 6: Grenard had a sack in this game, was given Orlando. 82 00:03:52,788 --> 00:03:54,348 Speaker 4: Brown fits against the Bengals. 83 00:03:54,588 --> 00:03:56,348 Speaker 6: I think when you kind of look at that game too, 84 00:03:56,428 --> 00:03:58,628 Speaker 6: like it came down to the wire of that game, 85 00:03:58,708 --> 00:04:00,788 Speaker 6: but like for the majority part of that game they 86 00:04:00,828 --> 00:04:01,828 Speaker 6: were dominated. 87 00:04:01,948 --> 00:04:03,428 Speaker 4: Like there's Jack Griffin interception. 88 00:04:03,588 --> 00:04:06,028 Speaker 6: Everybody can tribe in that game, But for forty five 89 00:04:06,068 --> 00:04:09,068 Speaker 6: minutes of that game, pretty much we're in control and 90 00:04:09,108 --> 00:04:10,908 Speaker 6: then you know, the Bengals did. 91 00:04:10,748 --> 00:04:12,108 Speaker 4: What they did, got back into the game. 92 00:04:12,108 --> 00:04:14,868 Speaker 6: But I think the way that they're playing on defense 93 00:04:14,948 --> 00:04:18,508 Speaker 6: right now absolutely makes them a good tender in the 94 00:04:18,548 --> 00:04:21,828 Speaker 6: AFC in the South for sure. I think they need 95 00:04:21,988 --> 00:04:24,708 Speaker 6: another one or two signature wins to really say, look, 96 00:04:24,908 --> 00:04:26,708 Speaker 6: these guys can keep up with the cream of the 97 00:04:26,708 --> 00:04:27,948 Speaker 6: crop and the entire AFC. 98 00:04:28,108 --> 00:04:30,508 Speaker 1: It's incredible that they're here and we're having a Texans 99 00:04:30,548 --> 00:04:31,948 Speaker 1: talk at the top of the third out and it 100 00:04:32,108 --> 00:04:33,148 Speaker 1: really mean it as a compliment. 101 00:04:33,388 --> 00:04:34,188 Speaker 2: I think so much. 102 00:04:34,068 --> 00:04:36,108 Speaker 1: Credit goes to your boy Casario too. Like the way 103 00:04:36,148 --> 00:04:39,428 Speaker 1: they have done. Take a look at the twenty twenty 104 00:04:39,468 --> 00:04:42,388 Speaker 1: one Texans. This is just two years ago, and look 105 00:04:42,428 --> 00:04:44,788 Speaker 1: at how they have completely changed the organition. Their head 106 00:04:44,788 --> 00:04:47,228 Speaker 1: coach was David Cully, who has let go and has 107 00:04:47,268 --> 00:04:50,348 Speaker 1: not coached since then. Davis Mills was their their quarterback. 108 00:04:50,708 --> 00:04:53,148 Speaker 1: Their receiving yards later was Brandon Cooks who's now at 109 00:04:53,148 --> 00:04:56,148 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Their leading tackler is Kamu gruge Hill, who's 110 00:04:56,188 --> 00:04:59,148 Speaker 1: a panther. Their leading interceptor was Desmond King, who's not 111 00:04:59,188 --> 00:05:02,188 Speaker 1: in the league. I will walk off the set if 112 00:05:02,228 --> 00:05:04,148 Speaker 1: any of you can tell me just two years ago. 113 00:05:04,468 --> 00:05:07,868 Speaker 1: Who is the Houston Texans leading rusher? Who was the 114 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:10,868 Speaker 1: Houston Texans leading rusher? They have changed so much in 115 00:05:10,908 --> 00:05:12,988 Speaker 1: two years. I defy any of us who live and 116 00:05:13,028 --> 00:05:15,508 Speaker 1: breathe football all day to name the player anybody wanted 117 00:05:15,508 --> 00:05:16,548 Speaker 1: to a woodhead. 118 00:05:16,628 --> 00:05:18,268 Speaker 2: Lamar Miller? Was that his name? 119 00:05:18,508 --> 00:05:19,228 Speaker 4: I need a guess. 120 00:05:19,388 --> 00:05:20,748 Speaker 2: Lamar Miller's my guess. 121 00:05:20,988 --> 00:05:24,428 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller isn't even close. The leading rusher on that 122 00:05:24,508 --> 00:05:27,148 Speaker 1: team was Rex birkhead. 123 00:05:26,748 --> 00:05:29,308 Speaker 4: Burk who was the second leading rusher. 124 00:05:29,148 --> 00:05:33,108 Speaker 1: Mark Ingram like our guy Marking was on the Texans. 125 00:05:33,588 --> 00:05:35,828 Speaker 1: David Johnson was on that team. What I'm talking about, 126 00:05:35,828 --> 00:05:38,188 Speaker 1: it's like all these guys are gone. Half of them 127 00:05:38,228 --> 00:05:40,988 Speaker 1: are retired, including the head coaches, and out of football, 128 00:05:41,188 --> 00:05:43,668 Speaker 1: and here they are in the playoff picture with a 129 00:05:43,748 --> 00:05:45,388 Speaker 1: rookie and a rookie head coach. 130 00:05:45,708 --> 00:05:47,428 Speaker 2: And I know, Peter. They got some gristled guys. 131 00:05:47,588 --> 00:05:49,468 Speaker 1: They got some babies out there who are playing ball, 132 00:05:49,508 --> 00:05:52,188 Speaker 1: and they have changed it so fast. So these rehols 133 00:05:52,388 --> 00:05:54,988 Speaker 1: they can take a decade. Sometimes some teams are overhauling 134 00:05:55,148 --> 00:05:57,148 Speaker 1: for a decade and a half. I think the front 135 00:05:57,148 --> 00:05:58,828 Speaker 1: office has done an amazing job. They found the coach, 136 00:05:58,868 --> 00:06:00,228 Speaker 1: and they found the quarterback and I think they can 137 00:06:00,228 --> 00:06:00,948 Speaker 1: beat anybody now. 138 00:06:00,988 --> 00:06:02,228 Speaker 4: Incredible, Rex burk I love you. 139 00:06:02,548 --> 00:06:04,108 Speaker 7: That's crazy, Rex Burkhead. 140 00:06:04,468 --> 00:06:07,348 Speaker 8: Do you just saying the word quarterback? I was just waiting, waiting, waiting. 141 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:08,348 Speaker 7: We went all the way. 142 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,268 Speaker 8: Around that table just now. 143 00:06:09,308 --> 00:06:11,508 Speaker 3: And I think that's a testament to how the Texans 144 00:06:11,508 --> 00:06:13,868 Speaker 3: are playing in big games. Is we talked about all 145 00:06:13,908 --> 00:06:16,468 Speaker 3: these other facets of their team before we even got 146 00:06:16,468 --> 00:06:16,828 Speaker 3: to c J. 147 00:06:16,948 --> 00:06:19,268 Speaker 8: Stroud, and he's been such a huge part of this. 148 00:06:19,468 --> 00:06:23,188 Speaker 3: It's we're week ten and we have seen very little 149 00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:27,348 Speaker 3: to no panic from this rookie quarterback who everyone had 150 00:06:27,348 --> 00:06:29,988 Speaker 3: painted on the wall through his draft process and everything 151 00:06:30,028 --> 00:06:33,028 Speaker 3: that was said about him and the cognitive S two 152 00:06:33,228 --> 00:06:35,988 Speaker 3: test and how he can't you know, he can't perform 153 00:06:35,988 --> 00:06:38,708 Speaker 3: in these big games. Look at we watch Ohio State quarterbacks, 154 00:06:38,748 --> 00:06:42,988 Speaker 3: the Ohio State quarterback exactly, and he has lived up to, 155 00:06:43,548 --> 00:06:47,228 Speaker 3: exceeded and then set a new standard for what a 156 00:06:47,308 --> 00:06:49,308 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback is supposed to do when they arrive in 157 00:06:49,308 --> 00:06:49,588 Speaker 3: this lake. 158 00:06:49,788 --> 00:06:51,228 Speaker 8: Personally, I think it also. 159 00:06:51,028 --> 00:06:52,908 Speaker 3: Has a lot to do with just this simpatico that 160 00:06:52,908 --> 00:06:55,748 Speaker 3: we are seeing between Bobby Slowick and Debico Ryans and CJ. 161 00:06:55,828 --> 00:06:56,228 Speaker 7: Stroud. 162 00:06:56,508 --> 00:06:58,188 Speaker 3: It's it seems like a match made in heaven, and 163 00:06:58,188 --> 00:06:59,828 Speaker 3: sometimes it just doesn't work out that way when you 164 00:06:59,868 --> 00:07:00,828 Speaker 3: draft a young guy like this. 165 00:07:01,068 --> 00:07:01,948 Speaker 8: But hats off to c J. 166 00:07:02,028 --> 00:07:04,868 Speaker 3: Stroud as well for his development, his where all was 167 00:07:04,908 --> 00:07:07,708 Speaker 3: in the pocket and his decision making, his maturity, his prowess. 168 00:07:07,748 --> 00:07:09,428 Speaker 8: It's like shocking for a rookie quarterback. 169 00:07:09,428 --> 00:07:11,988 Speaker 1: I'd like to see some subpatago in Carolina when Bryce young, right, 170 00:07:12,268 --> 00:07:15,388 Speaker 1: it looks great. Can we indulge our audience with a 171 00:07:15,668 --> 00:07:18,028 Speaker 1: wild tangent in the middle of this a block. I 172 00:07:18,068 --> 00:07:20,788 Speaker 1: just saw a quote I have to share. Dan Campbell 173 00:07:20,868 --> 00:07:23,748 Speaker 1: is doing his press conference, the Lion's head coach. All right, 174 00:07:25,868 --> 00:07:28,948 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. He's talking about 175 00:07:28,988 --> 00:07:31,348 Speaker 1: the risks that they're taking on fourth down and they 176 00:07:31,348 --> 00:07:33,788 Speaker 1: go for one on fourth and two and they say, coach, 177 00:07:34,228 --> 00:07:35,508 Speaker 1: tell us about your mentality. 178 00:07:35,548 --> 00:07:36,588 Speaker 2: This just happened. It's breaking. 179 00:07:36,628 --> 00:07:37,988 Speaker 4: Here's the quote from Dan Campbell. 180 00:07:39,108 --> 00:07:42,068 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say, because I tell my family this, 181 00:07:43,148 --> 00:07:45,788 Speaker 1: just wear a diaper before some of these games. I'll 182 00:07:45,828 --> 00:07:48,388 Speaker 1: give them an alert and say put on the diaper 183 00:07:48,428 --> 00:07:52,068 Speaker 1: and be ready to roll. He's telling his own family 184 00:07:52,148 --> 00:07:54,188 Speaker 1: to put a diaper on so they mess their pants 185 00:07:54,268 --> 00:07:56,428 Speaker 1: during the game, Like he actually does that. 186 00:07:56,588 --> 00:07:57,068 Speaker 4: No, I think. 187 00:07:58,188 --> 00:08:02,668 Speaker 9: I think, let me tell you're gonna lose control of 188 00:08:02,748 --> 00:08:06,628 Speaker 9: your body functions put a diaper on, because that's how 189 00:08:06,668 --> 00:08:10,268 Speaker 9: we're coaching this game to this guy is American treasure 190 00:08:10,388 --> 00:08:12,348 Speaker 9: and the team is so good and he. 191 00:08:12,348 --> 00:08:14,148 Speaker 2: Talks about crapping your pants. 192 00:08:13,908 --> 00:08:15,548 Speaker 1: In the middle of the game, and it's like, we 193 00:08:15,628 --> 00:08:17,388 Speaker 1: love you Dan awesome. 194 00:08:17,748 --> 00:08:18,428 Speaker 2: How great is that? 195 00:08:19,548 --> 00:08:21,908 Speaker 7: Vel grow up? I was worried that they were going 196 00:08:21,988 --> 00:08:22,548 Speaker 7: to pull. 197 00:08:23,868 --> 00:08:26,828 Speaker 8: I was worried day he was going to follow up on. 198 00:08:26,828 --> 00:08:31,068 Speaker 3: The the the where are you going Jamie Well Jared 199 00:08:31,108 --> 00:08:34,588 Speaker 3: Goff's post game quote talking about his anatomy thank you. 200 00:08:35,508 --> 00:08:36,108 Speaker 7: I was worried. 201 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:38,188 Speaker 3: I was, yes, exactly. I was worried that that's where 202 00:08:38,188 --> 00:08:40,068 Speaker 3: we were going. But we are just really focused on 203 00:08:40,068 --> 00:08:41,068 Speaker 3: that area of the body when. 204 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:43,868 Speaker 5: It comes to the lines between the kneecaps, the bulls, 205 00:08:43,908 --> 00:08:46,548 Speaker 5: the balls. But everything's below the waist of the lions, right, 206 00:08:46,668 --> 00:08:47,828 Speaker 5: So I mean, like, is. 207 00:08:47,748 --> 00:08:50,028 Speaker 1: There anything but they're having shoulders above everybody else on 208 00:08:50,068 --> 00:08:50,548 Speaker 1: the field. 209 00:08:50,668 --> 00:08:52,228 Speaker 2: We got to get one of those genies where you 210 00:08:52,268 --> 00:08:53,908 Speaker 2: put it in there after the game you know what 211 00:08:53,908 --> 00:08:54,268 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 212 00:08:54,348 --> 00:08:57,108 Speaker 9: You just you doped up for those blue tubes. Up 213 00:08:57,228 --> 00:09:01,868 Speaker 9: up and throw it out a blue Those tubes. 214 00:09:03,068 --> 00:09:04,308 Speaker 4: Are the best love. 215 00:09:04,388 --> 00:09:06,468 Speaker 7: I can't we get a shirting celebration right there in 216 00:09:06,588 --> 00:09:09,908 Speaker 7: a shirt. Diaper up, men, diaper up. 217 00:09:09,908 --> 00:09:14,908 Speaker 2: I'm doing anti fragile pampers. Man, that's let's go pants. 218 00:09:15,068 --> 00:09:16,148 Speaker 4: Don't nail diapers. 219 00:09:16,268 --> 00:09:17,988 Speaker 8: Do you want to watch the Lions play next week? 220 00:09:18,068 --> 00:09:21,108 Speaker 3: You're playing, there's the diaper Thanksgiving. 221 00:09:21,188 --> 00:09:24,788 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, there's the slate on Thanksgiving Day. You're looking 222 00:09:24,828 --> 00:09:28,028 Speaker 8: at it. It's it's it's a noon special on Fox. 223 00:09:28,148 --> 00:09:29,988 Speaker 8: Packers Lions get to go to LA for that. 224 00:09:30,108 --> 00:09:31,868 Speaker 2: All I'll be I'll be in all over the weekend. 225 00:09:31,908 --> 00:09:34,468 Speaker 5: We've got Jack Harlowe at halftime though here for that 226 00:09:35,308 --> 00:09:37,268 Speaker 5: Commanders at halftime of the next one pull. 227 00:09:37,188 --> 00:09:40,948 Speaker 3: Commanders Cowboys or thirty pm Eastern and then a West 228 00:09:40,988 --> 00:09:44,908 Speaker 3: Coast decision making spectacle forty nine Ers Seahawks. 229 00:09:44,908 --> 00:09:47,548 Speaker 2: That one. We can't get Creed to play halftime like 230 00:09:47,628 --> 00:09:48,028 Speaker 2: it's it is. 231 00:09:48,668 --> 00:09:57,388 Speaker 8: Come on, he wouldn't do it. 232 00:09:57,628 --> 00:09:59,468 Speaker 1: Life bringing win for the Broncos. 233 00:09:59,508 --> 00:10:00,908 Speaker 4: I thinks Russell Wilson's biggest win. 234 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:02,828 Speaker 1: I know he beat the Chiefs, but the fashion that 235 00:10:02,908 --> 00:10:04,348 Speaker 1: he did it in a walk off field go By 236 00:10:04,388 --> 00:10:07,228 Speaker 1: the way, the sixth walk off field goal was zero 237 00:10:07,308 --> 00:10:09,668 Speaker 1: time left this week in the NFL long best sport 238 00:10:09,668 --> 00:10:12,548 Speaker 1: in the world record. That's here though, from the head 239 00:10:12,588 --> 00:10:14,948 Speaker 1: coach of the Bills and the quarterback after the Bills. 240 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:16,028 Speaker 2: How the hell did that happen? 241 00:10:17,308 --> 00:10:20,868 Speaker 10: We practiced two or three times that this week, the 242 00:10:20,908 --> 00:10:25,948 Speaker 10: substitution from from dime to field goal block, and at 243 00:10:25,948 --> 00:10:28,468 Speaker 10: the end of the day we didn't execute it. So 244 00:10:28,548 --> 00:10:29,428 Speaker 10: it's inexcusable. 245 00:10:29,548 --> 00:10:30,468 Speaker 2: I wasn't good enough. 246 00:10:30,708 --> 00:10:33,628 Speaker 10: You can't turn the ball over period, let alone four times, 247 00:10:33,668 --> 00:10:36,668 Speaker 10: and field position can't start at the minus forty or 248 00:10:36,668 --> 00:10:39,628 Speaker 10: whatever it was minus forty one. That's it's not good enough. 249 00:10:40,868 --> 00:10:45,348 Speaker 11: Sucks shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. 250 00:10:48,348 --> 00:10:51,388 Speaker 11: It's a lot of bad football, a lot of bad football. Yeah. 251 00:10:51,388 --> 00:10:54,868 Speaker 11: I'm still confident, but it's no secret. The clock's taken 252 00:10:55,148 --> 00:10:57,108 Speaker 11: you know that as emergency. 253 00:10:57,148 --> 00:10:59,868 Speaker 2: Now. 254 00:11:00,028 --> 00:11:02,068 Speaker 3: Yeah, several weeks in a row, Josh Allan's been asked 255 00:11:02,068 --> 00:11:03,308 Speaker 3: about the confidence he has. 256 00:11:03,188 --> 00:11:03,708 Speaker 8: In this team. 257 00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:05,988 Speaker 3: Rightfully so oh, but as he said, the weeks went 258 00:11:06,028 --> 00:11:08,708 Speaker 3: on and it gets tougher and tougher, AFC playoff picture. 259 00:11:09,148 --> 00:11:11,148 Speaker 3: Here's where you're looking, and you look at the right 260 00:11:11,188 --> 00:11:14,108 Speaker 3: side of that screen, and the Bills hang as a 261 00:11:14,148 --> 00:11:17,468 Speaker 3: five and five team with the Colts and the Raiders. 262 00:11:17,828 --> 00:11:19,948 Speaker 3: They are a ten seed right now. They are looking 263 00:11:20,028 --> 00:11:23,588 Speaker 3: in right now, and the Texans hold the final spot 264 00:11:23,948 --> 00:11:25,588 Speaker 3: in the playoff push in the wild card. 265 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:27,428 Speaker 8: This is just through week ten, though. Keep all of 266 00:11:27,468 --> 00:11:28,068 Speaker 8: this in mind. 267 00:11:28,668 --> 00:11:31,708 Speaker 3: Uh local you know, Bills media coverage. One of the 268 00:11:31,708 --> 00:11:33,988 Speaker 3: headlines I caught this morning was Bill's report card. 269 00:11:34,028 --> 00:11:35,988 Speaker 8: I was like, Oh, what's the grade gonna be? Yeah, 270 00:11:36,268 --> 00:11:36,948 Speaker 8: there was no grade. 271 00:11:36,948 --> 00:11:38,828 Speaker 3: It was just that was one of the worst losses 272 00:11:38,828 --> 00:11:40,708 Speaker 3: Buffalo as ever stuffed. I'm like, so is that not 273 00:11:40,748 --> 00:11:42,308 Speaker 3: even an f Like, what are we working with here? 274 00:11:42,348 --> 00:11:43,828 Speaker 3: There wasn't even a letter applied. 275 00:11:44,028 --> 00:11:44,628 Speaker 2: It was one of the. 276 00:11:44,548 --> 00:11:45,388 Speaker 4: First Bills losses. 277 00:11:45,388 --> 00:11:52,788 Speaker 7: That's rare, teacher, right, that's the worst theater. 278 00:11:53,428 --> 00:11:58,268 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's inexplicable. Yeah, that way. It was tough. They 279 00:11:58,268 --> 00:12:00,348 Speaker 2: were bouncing the ball like a basketball around the field. 280 00:12:00,388 --> 00:12:01,308 Speaker 2: They couldn't hold onto it. 281 00:12:01,348 --> 00:12:04,228 Speaker 5: He's throwing the ball turnovers and then the mental farts 282 00:12:04,508 --> 00:12:08,188 Speaker 5: the end of you know, having an absolute meltdown with 283 00:12:08,268 --> 00:12:13,108 Speaker 5: the field goals. It's an inexclusive loss at home on 284 00:12:13,188 --> 00:12:16,588 Speaker 5: Monday Night football. After watching all the opponents in your division, 285 00:12:16,788 --> 00:12:20,028 Speaker 5: one of them's on a by Jets get beaten on Sunday. 286 00:12:19,828 --> 00:12:21,228 Speaker 2: Night and the Patriots loose Sunday. 287 00:12:21,228 --> 00:12:23,628 Speaker 5: Were like, there's a chance for them to really close 288 00:12:23,668 --> 00:12:25,268 Speaker 5: the gap with the Dolphins and a team that they've 289 00:12:25,268 --> 00:12:27,428 Speaker 5: already been once, and then they just didn't show up. 290 00:12:27,428 --> 00:12:30,028 Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs invisible. He saw his brother tweeting. 291 00:12:29,708 --> 00:12:31,428 Speaker 5: After the game, there's a lot of stuff going on here. 292 00:12:32,588 --> 00:12:33,508 Speaker 2: Here's what I come back to. 293 00:12:34,148 --> 00:12:36,708 Speaker 5: I keep on doing this thing where I'm talking about 294 00:12:36,708 --> 00:12:38,468 Speaker 5: the Bills after these losses on this show, and I 295 00:12:38,468 --> 00:12:39,268 Speaker 5: think I gotta stop. 296 00:12:39,628 --> 00:12:43,908 Speaker 12: I keep on saying like they lost Matt Mulana and 297 00:12:43,948 --> 00:12:46,388 Speaker 12: they lost Trey White, like those are like their best 298 00:12:46,428 --> 00:12:50,188 Speaker 12: defensive Like the the Houston Texans went out there with 299 00:12:50,348 --> 00:12:53,068 Speaker 12: twenty two different guys on the injury report and beat 300 00:12:53,108 --> 00:12:55,108 Speaker 12: the Bengals in Cincinnati this weekend. 301 00:12:55,788 --> 00:12:57,508 Speaker 2: The Raiders are. 302 00:12:57,388 --> 00:13:00,988 Speaker 5: Winning with Aiden O'Connell and a host of defensive players 303 00:13:00,988 --> 00:13:03,468 Speaker 5: you've never seen before. Josh Dobbs walked off a bus, 304 00:13:03,828 --> 00:13:05,708 Speaker 5: said Hi, nice to meet you, and has won two 305 00:13:05,748 --> 00:13:08,628 Speaker 5: games for the Minnesota Vikings. There are no more excuses. 306 00:13:08,668 --> 00:13:13,068 Speaker 5: It is November. Everyone's hurt, everyone's aching. I can't keep 307 00:13:13,108 --> 00:13:16,388 Speaker 5: talking about Matt Milano and how important he is. They 308 00:13:16,388 --> 00:13:18,668 Speaker 5: signed Von Miller to one hundred and twenty million dollar deal. 309 00:13:19,548 --> 00:13:23,268 Speaker 5: Von Miller's great, He's a Hall of Famer. Matt Milano 310 00:13:23,348 --> 00:13:25,428 Speaker 5: can't be the guy that we keep talking about. Now 311 00:13:25,508 --> 00:13:28,748 Speaker 5: that it's week eleven. Trey White is one of many 312 00:13:28,788 --> 00:13:31,948 Speaker 5: defensive backs in that defensive backfield. We can't keep talking 313 00:13:31,948 --> 00:13:35,548 Speaker 5: about Trey White. In week eleven, Bills have issues. And 314 00:13:35,548 --> 00:13:37,708 Speaker 5: I'll tell you they play the Jets, and you could say, 315 00:13:37,708 --> 00:13:38,428 Speaker 5: oh the Jets thing. 316 00:13:38,428 --> 00:13:40,268 Speaker 2: Whatever, we see the Jets did beat the Bills. 317 00:13:41,748 --> 00:13:44,588 Speaker 5: Week twelve, they play the Eagles, then they have a buye, 318 00:13:45,428 --> 00:13:49,948 Speaker 5: then they play the Chiefs, and then they play the Cowboys. 319 00:13:50,708 --> 00:13:53,588 Speaker 5: So Matt mlanaway coming back, and it might be time 320 00:13:53,628 --> 00:13:56,028 Speaker 5: to look in the mirror and say what are we 321 00:13:56,108 --> 00:13:58,308 Speaker 5: and what do we want to be? Because, as I said, 322 00:13:58,348 --> 00:14:01,228 Speaker 5: going into yesterday's game, one team what's ascending, the other 323 00:14:01,268 --> 00:14:02,948 Speaker 5: team was descending. And right now it looks like the 324 00:14:02,948 --> 00:14:05,268 Speaker 5: Broncos are like this and the Bills down here. I 325 00:14:05,268 --> 00:14:06,828 Speaker 5: think it could be changed, but I don't know and 326 00:14:06,868 --> 00:14:08,348 Speaker 5: we've seen a lot of teams fall off of Cliff 327 00:14:08,388 --> 00:14:09,468 Speaker 5: and it looks like it's not going well. 328 00:14:09,588 --> 00:14:12,068 Speaker 6: Yeah, last night was sloppy. It was bad football at best. 329 00:14:12,068 --> 00:14:14,228 Speaker 6: It looked like the bad News Browns out there, bad 330 00:14:14,268 --> 00:14:16,188 Speaker 6: News Bears. Excuse me, just the way the ball was 331 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:18,428 Speaker 6: flopping around, like it was almost like they took them 332 00:14:18,508 --> 00:14:20,548 Speaker 6: right out of the box and just handed them the football. 333 00:14:20,548 --> 00:14:22,108 Speaker 6: Because there's like this film that was on there and 334 00:14:22,148 --> 00:14:24,108 Speaker 6: nobody could see them to hold onto it. First play 335 00:14:24,108 --> 00:14:25,788 Speaker 6: of the game, cook you know, it calls it up 336 00:14:25,988 --> 00:14:28,148 Speaker 6: and that was like really set the stage for the 337 00:14:28,308 --> 00:14:32,468 Speaker 6: entire night. But like, let's be honest, this is all fixable. 338 00:14:32,668 --> 00:14:35,628 Speaker 6: Like this, this basically comes down to one simple element 339 00:14:35,988 --> 00:14:40,308 Speaker 6: and it's it really every level of football, this is 340 00:14:40,348 --> 00:14:43,108 Speaker 6: the most important thing. Take care of the damn ball, 341 00:14:43,548 --> 00:14:45,868 Speaker 6: like stop, like that's the only thing they. 342 00:14:45,788 --> 00:14:46,148 Speaker 2: Need to do. 343 00:14:46,228 --> 00:14:48,588 Speaker 6: There's too much talent on this team to be flopping 344 00:14:48,628 --> 00:14:52,668 Speaker 6: around like they did last night. And look, Denver shouldn't 345 00:14:52,628 --> 00:14:55,148 Speaker 6: have never been in this game, but yet somehow they 346 00:14:55,188 --> 00:14:58,748 Speaker 6: were even after all the turnovers. Like the defense played 347 00:14:58,748 --> 00:15:00,948 Speaker 6: well enough to hold them into field goals the opening 348 00:15:01,028 --> 00:15:02,228 Speaker 6: drive of the game, but all of a sudden your 349 00:15:02,228 --> 00:15:03,828 Speaker 6: defense over there, like, yeah, it's gonna be a great 350 00:15:03,828 --> 00:15:04,268 Speaker 6: gay go to. 351 00:15:04,748 --> 00:15:06,308 Speaker 2: What Wait, now we're out there. 352 00:15:06,348 --> 00:15:08,068 Speaker 6: They go out there, they force him to kick a 353 00:15:08,068 --> 00:15:10,708 Speaker 6: field goal right to start the game. So there's been 354 00:15:10,748 --> 00:15:12,748 Speaker 6: times where the defense has been fine. But Josh Allen 355 00:15:12,868 --> 00:15:16,028 Speaker 6: right now, it's like a guy that's in a shooting 356 00:15:16,068 --> 00:15:19,268 Speaker 6: slump in basketball, right and hey, he's in a slump. 357 00:15:19,308 --> 00:15:21,068 Speaker 4: Just keep shooting, keep shooting. Eventually it'll come out. 358 00:15:21,268 --> 00:15:23,908 Speaker 6: Like Josh, he keeps shooting it and he one of 359 00:15:23,908 --> 00:15:25,668 Speaker 6: these weeks he's gonna come out of it. But I 360 00:15:25,748 --> 00:15:28,868 Speaker 6: think at some point in time, Sean McDermott, your best 361 00:15:28,908 --> 00:15:30,628 Speaker 6: player in the field last night was James Cook. 362 00:15:30,828 --> 00:15:32,748 Speaker 4: Like, Josh all right, look here we're having one of 363 00:15:32,788 --> 00:15:33,668 Speaker 4: those nights. Here, here we go. 364 00:15:33,748 --> 00:15:35,788 Speaker 6: We're gonna run the ball, like we're gonna stop doing 365 00:15:35,788 --> 00:15:37,628 Speaker 6: all this stuff. I think you got to you got 366 00:15:37,628 --> 00:15:39,988 Speaker 6: to take the ball away from Josh sometimes and just 367 00:15:40,068 --> 00:15:42,068 Speaker 6: kind of let him just simmer down a little bit 368 00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:43,668 Speaker 6: because I think he's trying too hard. 369 00:15:44,468 --> 00:15:46,388 Speaker 1: We've been having this conversation for years about him. We 370 00:15:46,428 --> 00:15:48,348 Speaker 1: live in a world of comps, and we've talked about 371 00:15:48,388 --> 00:15:51,348 Speaker 1: the Josh Allen comp for years, and I've heard Cam Newton, 372 00:15:51,588 --> 00:15:54,508 Speaker 1: I've heard Randall cunning him. The closest thing is farv 373 00:15:54,988 --> 00:15:57,988 Speaker 1: It's far without the MVPs and without the two Super 374 00:15:57,988 --> 00:16:00,668 Speaker 1: Bowl appearance, it's just a chucker. And you say, well, 375 00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:02,068 Speaker 1: he's going to grow out of it. Guys, he's not 376 00:16:02,108 --> 00:16:02,668 Speaker 1: a young player. 377 00:16:02,708 --> 00:16:03,348 Speaker 4: It's just who he is. 378 00:16:03,388 --> 00:16:06,548 Speaker 1: It's what he does. But more importantly, more broader for 379 00:16:06,588 --> 00:16:09,188 Speaker 1: the Bills, you think, well, the ball never bounces the 380 00:16:09,188 --> 00:16:09,628 Speaker 1: Bill's way. 381 00:16:09,708 --> 00:16:10,708 Speaker 4: That's bs. 382 00:16:10,828 --> 00:16:14,508 Speaker 1: They got the hugest breaks last night, two blown extra points, 383 00:16:14,548 --> 00:16:17,788 Speaker 1: a misgame winning field goal, James Cook fumbles the ball 384 00:16:17,828 --> 00:16:19,988 Speaker 1: and it bounces perfectly up into his hands, like the 385 00:16:20,028 --> 00:16:23,388 Speaker 1: ball literally bounced your way, and you still lost. 386 00:16:23,508 --> 00:16:24,548 Speaker 2: And the broader. 387 00:16:24,188 --> 00:16:27,428 Speaker 1: Point, do you know someone I think we all do, 388 00:16:28,148 --> 00:16:32,828 Speaker 1: who peaked in high school and it's like eighteen years old, 389 00:16:32,908 --> 00:16:36,028 Speaker 1: I'm the coolest guy in school and I'm awesome. I 390 00:16:36,068 --> 00:16:38,748 Speaker 1: got the letter Jack and a girlfriend, and I got invertible, 391 00:16:39,308 --> 00:16:41,268 Speaker 1: And then you know, you come back from college and 392 00:16:41,468 --> 00:16:44,948 Speaker 1: he still got the convertible, and ten years later, in 393 00:16:44,988 --> 00:16:46,868 Speaker 1: thirty and thirty five, he's still like, man, he was 394 00:16:46,908 --> 00:16:49,788 Speaker 1: really cool at eighteen. I feel like the Bills are 395 00:16:49,788 --> 00:16:53,468 Speaker 1: in that cycle. There's no growing going on like that 396 00:16:53,668 --> 00:16:57,828 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one team was their best team and they lost. 397 00:16:58,308 --> 00:17:00,788 Speaker 1: And since then it's like I don't see them getting better. 398 00:17:00,828 --> 00:17:03,708 Speaker 1: I see them getting steadily worse. And they are the 399 00:17:03,748 --> 00:17:06,748 Speaker 1: guy who peaked in high school, Like it's was it 400 00:17:06,828 --> 00:17:07,268 Speaker 1: Ken Harley? 401 00:17:07,308 --> 00:17:07,868 Speaker 4: Wait, remember the. 402 00:17:07,868 --> 00:17:10,708 Speaker 1: Character Mike Dexter. He's like the coolest guy in school. 403 00:17:11,108 --> 00:17:12,988 Speaker 1: And then you know, years later you go buy and 404 00:17:13,028 --> 00:17:14,948 Speaker 1: they don't look the same. You know, they put on weight, 405 00:17:14,988 --> 00:17:16,988 Speaker 1: and then they're on Facebook saying they got a new 406 00:17:17,108 --> 00:17:20,068 Speaker 1: sock company and big things come in. Like the big 407 00:17:20,108 --> 00:17:22,828 Speaker 1: things aren't coming. They're never coming for the Mike Dexters 408 00:17:22,988 --> 00:17:25,908 Speaker 1: and the bills are right now. You have to redefine yourself. 409 00:17:25,948 --> 00:17:27,588 Speaker 1: You have to get a new job, you have to 410 00:17:27,628 --> 00:17:30,108 Speaker 1: get a new relationship, you have to get in shape. 411 00:17:30,268 --> 00:17:30,868 Speaker 4: They don't. 412 00:17:31,028 --> 00:17:33,428 Speaker 1: They're sort of just riding on this equity. And what 413 00:17:33,548 --> 00:17:35,908 Speaker 1: is the equity that they lost in the divisional round? 414 00:17:36,468 --> 00:17:39,188 Speaker 1: Divisional round, and so it's not like, man, if they 415 00:17:39,228 --> 00:17:41,348 Speaker 1: can only chase that super Bowl, there was no super 416 00:17:41,348 --> 00:17:43,508 Speaker 1: Bowl team. There's not going to be a super Bowl team. 417 00:17:43,908 --> 00:17:45,988 Speaker 1: They are the peak in high school guy who can't 418 00:17:45,988 --> 00:17:48,628 Speaker 1: evolve can't get to the next level. They've lost four 419 00:17:48,628 --> 00:17:51,468 Speaker 1: out of six games this year. They've already had a 420 00:17:51,508 --> 00:17:54,828 Speaker 1: player's only meeting held by a veteran running back who's 421 00:17:54,828 --> 00:17:57,108 Speaker 1: been in the team for like twenty minutes. They're doing 422 00:17:57,268 --> 00:18:01,028 Speaker 1: basic fundamental coaching things. The bye week's not coming. They 423 00:18:01,028 --> 00:18:03,508 Speaker 1: have a team that they already lost to, and maybe 424 00:18:03,548 --> 00:18:04,988 Speaker 1: the best team in football, which are going to be 425 00:18:04,988 --> 00:18:08,228 Speaker 1: eight point underdogs. Maybe I just need something new from 426 00:18:08,228 --> 00:18:10,428 Speaker 1: the Bills. I've seen all of this before. I saw 427 00:18:10,508 --> 00:18:12,028 Speaker 1: when we were in high school. It was really cool. 428 00:18:12,188 --> 00:18:14,548 Speaker 1: It's not that cool anymore, like adults now, can you 429 00:18:14,588 --> 00:18:16,028 Speaker 1: please grow up and do something new? 430 00:18:16,068 --> 00:18:17,068 Speaker 4: You're done with the irock Z. 431 00:18:17,428 --> 00:18:20,788 Speaker 13: Over the last three to sars, Over the last three 432 00:18:20,788 --> 00:18:24,508 Speaker 13: to four years graduate, I think people have been drunk 433 00:18:24,508 --> 00:18:28,508 Speaker 13: on the potential of the Bills, the electricity. 434 00:18:27,828 --> 00:18:29,948 Speaker 3: Of Josh Allen and like the style of his play 435 00:18:30,228 --> 00:18:33,188 Speaker 3: that would have been a welcome change to the traditional 436 00:18:33,268 --> 00:18:35,868 Speaker 3: dropback quarterback and the teams that had been winning time 437 00:18:35,908 --> 00:18:38,308 Speaker 3: and time again. The jumping on the tables and the 438 00:18:38,348 --> 00:18:41,308 Speaker 3: blue collar, you know, personality of the Buffalo fan. 439 00:18:41,188 --> 00:18:43,308 Speaker 8: Base, and it was like, come on, we're welcoming you. 440 00:18:43,388 --> 00:18:45,588 Speaker 8: Let's go win, win win. We want you at the 441 00:18:45,588 --> 00:18:46,188 Speaker 8: Super Bowls. 442 00:18:46,188 --> 00:18:48,788 Speaker 3: We want to see your personality in Vegas or Arizona, 443 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:51,948 Speaker 3: and they just can't get there. Change has happened in Buffalo, 444 00:18:52,228 --> 00:18:55,068 Speaker 3: but that change doesn't always mean growth. To your point, Kyle, 445 00:18:55,108 --> 00:18:57,508 Speaker 3: like the Leslie Frasier thing is real when he stepped 446 00:18:57,508 --> 00:18:59,668 Speaker 3: away as their defensive coordinator and now more was put 447 00:18:59,668 --> 00:19:02,308 Speaker 3: on Sean mcdermot's plate. I think that's really curious. But 448 00:19:02,508 --> 00:19:04,828 Speaker 3: the thing that continues to lack is the execute and 449 00:19:04,828 --> 00:19:07,268 Speaker 3: the precision, two things Peter that you said in the 450 00:19:07,308 --> 00:19:11,548 Speaker 3: first hour of the show. The Broncos have grown in 451 00:19:11,588 --> 00:19:13,908 Speaker 3: that in those two departments. So not a good direction 452 00:19:13,948 --> 00:19:14,468 Speaker 3: for the Bills. 453 00:19:14,548 --> 00:19:15,628 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned Voila. 454 00:19:15,628 --> 00:19:17,548 Speaker 5: I didn't mean to call out Vomla, But like Gabe, 455 00:19:17,588 --> 00:19:20,268 Speaker 5: Davis was, you know, a non factor in big moments, 456 00:19:20,468 --> 00:19:21,988 Speaker 5: and Diggs was a non fightt you got stars on 457 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:26,628 Speaker 5: that team, and yesterday it felt like the stars were there. 458 00:19:26,788 --> 00:19:28,828 Speaker 5: But to win a Monday night game under the lights 459 00:19:28,828 --> 00:19:31,828 Speaker 5: at home against a team that's three and five, the 460 00:19:31,908 --> 00:19:33,708 Speaker 5: stars have to take care of business at the end. 461 00:19:33,748 --> 00:19:35,788 Speaker 5: And it felt like Allan did his job with the 462 00:19:35,828 --> 00:19:37,828 Speaker 5: running at the touchdown, but then the defense let them 463 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:39,148 Speaker 5: come right down the field in the past interference. 464 00:19:39,148 --> 00:19:41,628 Speaker 6: Start getting everybody's best too, like all these prime time games, 465 00:19:41,668 --> 00:19:44,228 Speaker 6: like you get everybody's best shot, like you're getting their 466 00:19:44,268 --> 00:19:44,868 Speaker 6: best performance. 467 00:19:44,868 --> 00:19:46,668 Speaker 4: It's very tired, exhausted. 468 00:19:46,508 --> 00:19:48,868 Speaker 1: Years long conversation about that's Josh. 469 00:19:48,948 --> 00:19:49,628 Speaker 2: You know he's gonna do it. 470 00:19:49,628 --> 00:19:51,428 Speaker 1: He's gonna kill you sometimes, but then it's worth it. 471 00:19:51,508 --> 00:19:54,188 Speaker 1: He leads the league in interceptions. You can't do that. 472 00:19:54,028 --> 00:19:56,948 Speaker 1: That's too much. It's it's not cute, it's not fun anymore. 473 00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:58,748 Speaker 1: It's you can't lead the league interception. 474 00:19:58,828 --> 00:20:00,388 Speaker 8: And for him to be competing with Mac Jones in 475 00:20:00,468 --> 00:20:01,588 Speaker 8: that capacity, us. 476 00:20:01,828 --> 00:20:04,268 Speaker 1: Who is basically a neophyte, like, yes, this is this 477 00:20:04,468 --> 00:20:06,228 Speaker 1: supposed to be the superstar of our league, and like 478 00:20:06,348 --> 00:20:08,148 Speaker 1: I know, he's miserable and he's pissed off, and he's 479 00:20:08,148 --> 00:20:10,028 Speaker 1: probably pissed hearing who gives a damn You gotta stop 480 00:20:10,028 --> 00:20:11,428 Speaker 1: throwing receptions, man, you're five and five. 481 00:20:11,548 --> 00:20:13,748 Speaker 3: And lastly, it says something Peter mentioned and I'm sure 482 00:20:13,748 --> 00:20:15,628 Speaker 3: we'll have the tweet eventually in the show. The Trayvon 483 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:18,908 Speaker 3: Diggs Stefan Diggs thing is very real. Stefan Diggs's brother 484 00:20:18,988 --> 00:20:21,508 Speaker 3: tweets we got to get fourteen out of there. And 485 00:20:22,028 --> 00:20:24,628 Speaker 3: that is a real question now that is going to 486 00:20:24,708 --> 00:20:26,948 Speaker 3: be asked about Stefan Diggs. 487 00:20:27,068 --> 00:20:29,428 Speaker 1: Sefon Diggs has a huge contract. He usually leads the 488 00:20:29,468 --> 00:20:31,548 Speaker 1: league in catches like get him out of there from 489 00:20:31,548 --> 00:20:33,508 Speaker 1: what what is missing for Stefan Diggs? 490 00:20:33,588 --> 00:20:36,148 Speaker 2: Yeah, anywhere the trade deadlines Pats have stop right, You're. 491 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:38,388 Speaker 6: Right, I will say thank goodness for the emojis right 492 00:20:38,428 --> 00:20:40,628 Speaker 6: there because now like there's a little wiggle room for Hey, 493 00:20:40,668 --> 00:20:41,868 Speaker 6: I was joking like that. 494 00:20:43,468 --> 00:20:45,828 Speaker 3: But it doesn't help, like with the soup that's just 495 00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,548 Speaker 3: going to be stirred up this week of buffalow. Yes 496 00:20:47,708 --> 00:20:51,028 Speaker 3: is my point, right, Tom Pellasaro, Good morning to you 497 00:20:51,148 --> 00:20:54,188 Speaker 3: once again news from around the league as we put 498 00:20:54,428 --> 00:20:55,428 Speaker 3: close the books on week ten. 499 00:20:57,388 --> 00:21:00,508 Speaker 14: Well, Jami, let's start out with Brown's quarterback to Shaun Watson. 500 00:21:00,628 --> 00:21:04,228 Speaker 14: No clarity yet on his status for a huge game 501 00:21:04,468 --> 00:21:08,068 Speaker 14: on Sunday against the Steelers as he deals with an 502 00:21:08,068 --> 00:21:10,668 Speaker 14: ankle injury. Now, Watson came back into the game. He 503 00:21:10,708 --> 00:21:12,068 Speaker 14: got injured before halftime. 504 00:21:12,108 --> 00:21:12,348 Speaker 2: PJ. 505 00:21:12,468 --> 00:21:15,588 Speaker 14: Walker handle to hail Mary. Watson played the entire second half. 506 00:21:15,748 --> 00:21:17,628 Speaker 14: He was in a walking moot when he talked to 507 00:21:17,748 --> 00:21:21,148 Speaker 14: reporters at the podium. My understanding is Watson underwent an 508 00:21:21,228 --> 00:21:25,028 Speaker 14: MRI on Monday, and the Browns and Watson are gathering 509 00:21:25,148 --> 00:21:29,268 Speaker 14: information to determine exactly how to proceed here in terms 510 00:21:29,308 --> 00:21:33,268 Speaker 14: of this injury. I Meanwhile, Bucks quarterback Baker Mayfield is 511 00:21:33,468 --> 00:21:36,388 Speaker 14: expected to play this week against the forty nine Ers, 512 00:21:36,388 --> 00:21:40,668 Speaker 14: despite banging up the thrumb on his throwing hand last weekend. 513 00:21:40,948 --> 00:21:43,828 Speaker 14: Todd Bowles said, Baker is good. My understanding is there 514 00:21:43,868 --> 00:21:46,348 Speaker 14: really wasn't a ton of concern on Baker Mayfield. Once 515 00:21:46,388 --> 00:21:49,308 Speaker 14: he was able to finish off that game, he should 516 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:50,428 Speaker 14: be out there this week. 517 00:21:50,588 --> 00:21:52,428 Speaker 2: Jamie, all right. 518 00:21:52,868 --> 00:21:55,228 Speaker 3: That's promising for the Buccaneers, the way that game ended 519 00:21:55,268 --> 00:21:57,148 Speaker 3: for them last week against the Titans. 520 00:21:57,628 --> 00:21:59,988 Speaker 8: Hopefully they're trending back in the correct direction. Tom p 521 00:22:00,148 --> 00:22:00,828 Speaker 8: thank you so much. 522 00:22:05,028 --> 00:22:06,068 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. 523 00:22:06,108 --> 00:22:08,748 Speaker 5: A three time Super Bowl champion O NFL Network front 524 00:22:08,788 --> 00:22:11,508 Speaker 5: office analyst buddy of ours, mister Scott Pioli. 525 00:22:11,668 --> 00:22:14,268 Speaker 8: Hey Scott, Scott, what's happening? 526 00:22:15,028 --> 00:22:16,868 Speaker 15: Happy Tuesday, and good morning everybody. 527 00:22:16,948 --> 00:22:20,028 Speaker 2: Great to see everyone, Great to see you. 528 00:22:20,108 --> 00:22:23,748 Speaker 5: The Patriots sadly are off to their worst start since 529 00:22:23,828 --> 00:22:26,748 Speaker 5: the first year of Bill Belichick's tenure as a head coach. 530 00:22:26,788 --> 00:22:28,708 Speaker 5: Given all your experience with the team and what you 531 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:30,828 Speaker 5: heard from Robert Kraft before the. 532 00:22:30,788 --> 00:22:33,988 Speaker 2: Game with Rich Eisen, where do you see them going 533 00:22:34,028 --> 00:22:34,428 Speaker 2: from here? 534 00:22:34,468 --> 00:22:36,908 Speaker 5: It's only week eleven, we still have eight more weeks 535 00:22:36,948 --> 00:22:40,388 Speaker 5: of the NFL season, and what is your read on 536 00:22:40,388 --> 00:22:40,948 Speaker 5: the situation? 537 00:22:42,548 --> 00:22:44,828 Speaker 15: Peter. We're going to see the same Patriots, And what 538 00:22:44,868 --> 00:22:46,748 Speaker 15: I mean by that is they're going to go into 539 00:22:46,788 --> 00:22:49,468 Speaker 15: this game with the intention of winning the next game. 540 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:52,508 Speaker 15: They're going to ignore everything outside the best that they can, 541 00:22:53,068 --> 00:22:54,748 Speaker 15: and they're just going to move forward and try to 542 00:22:54,788 --> 00:22:56,948 Speaker 15: get one to zero against the New York Giants next 543 00:22:56,948 --> 00:22:59,108 Speaker 15: week after the bye week. You know, I was with 544 00:22:59,188 --> 00:23:02,908 Speaker 15: Bill in nineteen ninety five in Cleveland and things were 545 00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:05,428 Speaker 15: not going well that season. The team that announced the move, 546 00:23:05,588 --> 00:23:09,588 Speaker 15: it was heading backwards. There was darkness everywhere outside the building. 547 00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:13,148 Speaker 15: But what happened every single day is every coach on 548 00:23:13,188 --> 00:23:15,468 Speaker 15: that staff was there looking to find ways to win 549 00:23:15,508 --> 00:23:18,948 Speaker 15: the game. Every scout, well almost every scout, everyone in 550 00:23:18,948 --> 00:23:22,748 Speaker 15: the personnel staff was worried about the draft and free agency. 551 00:23:23,788 --> 00:23:25,748 Speaker 15: Part of the culture there is you don't look too 552 00:23:25,788 --> 00:23:28,588 Speaker 15: far down the road. There's a lot of distractions right there, 553 00:23:28,868 --> 00:23:30,628 Speaker 15: right there, right now, and there's a lot of things 554 00:23:30,668 --> 00:23:32,468 Speaker 15: are going to have to be addressed after the season. 555 00:23:32,548 --> 00:23:35,428 Speaker 15: But what Bill is doing is staying laser focused. That's 556 00:23:35,428 --> 00:23:37,828 Speaker 15: what he is, That's what he does. The people that 557 00:23:37,868 --> 00:23:40,188 Speaker 15: are the closest to him, that's what they need to do. 558 00:23:40,508 --> 00:23:43,508 Speaker 15: So right now, there is chaos outside of the Patriots building, 559 00:23:43,788 --> 00:23:46,068 Speaker 15: but I guarantee it is not chaos within the building. 560 00:23:48,188 --> 00:23:48,588 Speaker 4: Scott. 561 00:23:48,668 --> 00:23:51,508 Speaker 1: During the heyday of the Patriots championship, the Patriots were 562 00:23:51,508 --> 00:23:53,668 Speaker 1: not as committed to Tom Brady as the Jets are 563 00:23:53,748 --> 00:23:56,028 Speaker 1: to Zach Wilson. Right now, they will not hear it. 564 00:23:56,108 --> 00:23:59,108 Speaker 1: They will not move, they will not blink. Salarady came 565 00:23:59,108 --> 00:24:02,548 Speaker 1: out and said, we're going with Zach again. He's the coach, 566 00:24:02,588 --> 00:24:04,868 Speaker 1: he gets to choose. They have gone thirty six straight 567 00:24:04,948 --> 00:24:07,908 Speaker 1: drives without a touchdown. Meanwhile, the defense looks great and 568 00:24:07,948 --> 00:24:10,908 Speaker 1: the defense is playing their butts off. What happens from 569 00:24:10,908 --> 00:24:14,188 Speaker 1: the front office and certainly the head coaching position, when 570 00:24:14,228 --> 00:24:17,228 Speaker 1: you risk losing the defense, losing the meeting room, the 571 00:24:17,228 --> 00:24:19,748 Speaker 1: locker room, especially if the office continues to be bad 572 00:24:19,788 --> 00:24:21,628 Speaker 1: and you don't make the big changes. 573 00:24:22,868 --> 00:24:25,788 Speaker 15: Kyle, that's part of the leadership duality of the general 574 00:24:25,828 --> 00:24:27,668 Speaker 15: manager and the head coach, and you mentioned it, and 575 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:30,068 Speaker 15: I am a firm believer the head coach is the 576 00:24:30,068 --> 00:24:32,148 Speaker 15: one who makes the decision who's going to get under 577 00:24:32,148 --> 00:24:34,228 Speaker 15: center from week to week. That is not the general 578 00:24:34,228 --> 00:24:38,108 Speaker 15: manager's job. The general manager's job is to be an ally, 579 00:24:38,508 --> 00:24:40,828 Speaker 15: to be a supporter, but also to push back on 580 00:24:40,868 --> 00:24:43,068 Speaker 15: the head coach. But this is what Robert Sala wants 581 00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:45,108 Speaker 15: to do. This is what he should do. Listening to 582 00:24:45,108 --> 00:24:47,988 Speaker 15: that press conference, I think Robert Sala gave some insight. 583 00:24:48,268 --> 00:24:52,308 Speaker 15: He believes clearly that other people have problems, not just 584 00:24:52,428 --> 00:24:55,908 Speaker 15: the quarterback. And here's when it's the point in the 585 00:24:55,948 --> 00:24:59,548 Speaker 15: season where the league and the rules are prohibitive in 586 00:24:59,628 --> 00:25:01,868 Speaker 15: terms of changing your roster. A couple of weeks ago, 587 00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:04,988 Speaker 15: they had a chance, not only through the trade headline, 588 00:25:05,188 --> 00:25:07,588 Speaker 15: but they also had a chance to get Carson Wentz 589 00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:09,868 Speaker 15: on the roster. Now we all know what Carson Wentz is, 590 00:25:10,068 --> 00:25:12,108 Speaker 15: but if they think that they needed to change, that 591 00:25:12,308 --> 00:25:14,548 Speaker 15: was the move that they should have made. But I'm 592 00:25:14,588 --> 00:25:16,748 Speaker 15: not saying that they should have made it. But Joe 593 00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:20,988 Speaker 15: Douglass clearly felt he was there in Philadelphia when they 594 00:25:21,108 --> 00:25:24,188 Speaker 15: drafted Carson Wentz, he's there now. He felt he wasn't 595 00:25:24,188 --> 00:25:26,508 Speaker 15: the right answer. This is the guy they're going with. 596 00:25:26,708 --> 00:25:28,788 Speaker 15: And I don't think that they lose the locker room 597 00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,388 Speaker 15: because the players, I think, believe in Robert Sala and 598 00:25:31,428 --> 00:25:34,268 Speaker 15: that he's trying to do everything possible for them to 599 00:25:34,308 --> 00:25:35,348 Speaker 15: win games week to week. 600 00:25:36,828 --> 00:25:38,988 Speaker 3: Scott, there is one name in the NFL right now 601 00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:44,308 Speaker 3: that headline, headline wise crosses every single publication because it's 602 00:25:44,348 --> 00:25:47,868 Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey and his very public relationship with the international 603 00:25:47,868 --> 00:25:50,508 Speaker 3: superstar in Taylor Swift. He was in Argentina over the 604 00:25:50,508 --> 00:25:53,988 Speaker 3: weekend during his bye week. His extracurricular and his schedules 605 00:25:53,988 --> 00:25:56,148 Speaker 3: are going to be well documented and covered because of 606 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:58,788 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. If you were a part of the Chiefs organization, 607 00:25:58,868 --> 00:26:02,748 Speaker 3: put yourself back in your office. Does Kelsey's greatness give 608 00:26:02,828 --> 00:26:07,028 Speaker 3: him some leeway here public situation? Or are you having 609 00:26:07,148 --> 00:26:09,788 Speaker 3: harder conversations with him about you have to stay on 610 00:26:09,828 --> 00:26:10,628 Speaker 3: the right track. 611 00:26:10,428 --> 00:26:12,628 Speaker 4: Here, Jamie. 612 00:26:12,668 --> 00:26:14,468 Speaker 15: A couple of things here is I don't think it's 613 00:26:14,548 --> 00:26:17,068 Speaker 15: just his greatness that allows him to quote unquote get 614 00:26:17,108 --> 00:26:17,668 Speaker 15: away with that. 615 00:26:18,068 --> 00:26:18,628 Speaker 4: Here's the deal. 616 00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:22,068 Speaker 15: For ten or eleven years, Kelsey has made a lot 617 00:26:22,108 --> 00:26:24,628 Speaker 15: of good decisions. He's made a ton of good decisions 618 00:26:24,668 --> 00:26:26,828 Speaker 15: to make sure that he's prepared for every week to 619 00:26:26,868 --> 00:26:29,868 Speaker 15: be a tremendous professional. He has proven that he's got 620 00:26:29,868 --> 00:26:32,748 Speaker 15: a track record. He has shown the team that. The 621 00:26:32,788 --> 00:26:35,828 Speaker 15: other thing is this, Andy Reid and Brett Veach have 622 00:26:35,908 --> 00:26:39,028 Speaker 15: a culture. It's a culture where there is a great 623 00:26:39,068 --> 00:26:42,508 Speaker 15: deal of accountability. So I don't think that this happened 624 00:26:42,548 --> 00:26:45,828 Speaker 15: without Andy and Brett knowing. I'm sure they talked about it. 625 00:26:45,908 --> 00:26:48,468 Speaker 15: Everyone knew that it was going to be seen. But again, 626 00:26:48,508 --> 00:26:50,628 Speaker 15: I wouldn't get too worried about a player like Travis 627 00:26:50,708 --> 00:26:54,188 Speaker 15: Kelsey because again, he's done everything that he needs to do. 628 00:26:54,628 --> 00:26:56,028 Speaker 15: And I want to go back to one of the 629 00:26:56,068 --> 00:26:59,268 Speaker 15: shortcomings I had as a leader when I ascended to 630 00:26:59,308 --> 00:27:02,908 Speaker 15: the general manager role was at times micro managing things 631 00:27:03,028 --> 00:27:05,748 Speaker 15: and players when I thought they were maybe putting themselves 632 00:27:05,788 --> 00:27:07,748 Speaker 15: in too much peril. It's kind of like being a 633 00:27:07,828 --> 00:27:09,708 Speaker 15: parent where you don't want to see someone make too 634 00:27:09,748 --> 00:27:12,428 Speaker 15: big of a mistake. I made that mistake in trying 635 00:27:12,428 --> 00:27:15,868 Speaker 15: to overmanage or micro manage certain things, and it worked. 636 00:27:15,588 --> 00:27:16,068 Speaker 4: The other way. 637 00:27:16,148 --> 00:27:18,548 Speaker 15: So I think right now they did the right thing. 638 00:27:18,588 --> 00:27:22,228 Speaker 15: As long as there was clear communication between Andy Brett 639 00:27:22,348 --> 00:27:23,308 Speaker 15: and Travis Kelcey. 640 00:27:24,628 --> 00:27:27,228 Speaker 6: Wow, Scott, I didn't have you pegged as a helicopter GM, 641 00:27:27,428 --> 00:27:28,588 Speaker 6: but there you go. 642 00:27:28,748 --> 00:27:32,948 Speaker 4: You laid it out for everybody out there to receive. Listen. 643 00:27:33,188 --> 00:27:34,828 Speaker 6: There's kind of like this new thing that's out there 644 00:27:34,828 --> 00:27:37,428 Speaker 6: for general managers, and it's called like the GM watch, 645 00:27:37,868 --> 00:27:41,108 Speaker 6: where like everybody's reporting on, Hey, this GM was at 646 00:27:41,108 --> 00:27:44,348 Speaker 6: this college game, or I saw this general manager over here, 647 00:27:44,388 --> 00:27:48,348 Speaker 6: Joe Shane's doing this, Joe Douglas, Howie Roseman's at this game. 648 00:27:49,188 --> 00:27:50,508 Speaker 4: That's kind of a new phenomenon. 649 00:27:50,668 --> 00:27:53,388 Speaker 6: I'm just curious, if you're a general manager right now 650 00:27:53,468 --> 00:27:55,988 Speaker 6: and you're one of these teams that's below five hundred, 651 00:27:55,988 --> 00:27:59,748 Speaker 6: and there's several of them, how do things change from 652 00:27:59,788 --> 00:28:03,148 Speaker 6: a scouting standpoint. Here are all the teams below five hundred, 653 00:28:03,428 --> 00:28:05,228 Speaker 6: got the Panthers sitting a loan right there at the 654 00:28:05,268 --> 00:28:08,148 Speaker 6: top with one loss or one win, a bunch of 655 00:28:08,148 --> 00:28:11,188 Speaker 6: two wins, heats. But I think when you look at 656 00:28:11,748 --> 00:28:14,028 Speaker 6: the fact that now things are changing for some of 657 00:28:14,068 --> 00:28:16,828 Speaker 6: these teams, how does that change the way you're scouting games, 658 00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:19,548 Speaker 6: the way you're scouting players, and how does that change 659 00:28:19,588 --> 00:28:22,708 Speaker 6: your position and your draft position mindset. 660 00:28:24,388 --> 00:28:27,428 Speaker 15: Sean, I love this question because here's the deal. Here's 661 00:28:27,428 --> 00:28:30,148 Speaker 15: the way I look at it. During the evaluation process, 662 00:28:30,228 --> 00:28:33,388 Speaker 15: I always say that there's two phases. There's the evaluation 663 00:28:34,028 --> 00:28:37,708 Speaker 15: process and there's this strategy process. Right now, during the 664 00:28:37,748 --> 00:28:41,508 Speaker 15: evaluation process, it doesn't matter where you think or believe 665 00:28:41,548 --> 00:28:43,588 Speaker 15: that you're going to pick, because the job of the 666 00:28:43,628 --> 00:28:46,908 Speaker 15: general manager, the player personnel director, the entire personnel department 667 00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:50,908 Speaker 15: is to get the board right, get the evaluations right. 668 00:28:50,988 --> 00:28:53,108 Speaker 15: You have to make sure that you're stacking your board 669 00:28:53,188 --> 00:28:55,988 Speaker 15: right now to get ready for the December draft meetings 670 00:28:56,188 --> 00:28:58,548 Speaker 15: so you can get the board set for the end 671 00:28:58,548 --> 00:29:00,668 Speaker 15: of the season when you bring on the coaching staff 672 00:29:00,708 --> 00:29:02,388 Speaker 15: and the other people. They are going to be involved 673 00:29:02,748 --> 00:29:06,388 Speaker 15: in setting your board and doing the evaluation. The evaluation 674 00:29:06,548 --> 00:29:10,548 Speaker 15: process should never be shaken whatsoever by where you think 675 00:29:10,588 --> 00:29:12,868 Speaker 15: you're going to pick, because that doesn't matter. You don't 676 00:29:12,868 --> 00:29:14,268 Speaker 15: know if there's going to be a trade that's going 677 00:29:14,348 --> 00:29:16,708 Speaker 15: to change where you pick. So what you have to 678 00:29:16,708 --> 00:29:19,548 Speaker 15: do right now take care of the evaluations, make sure 679 00:29:19,588 --> 00:29:22,868 Speaker 15: that you're getting the players in the right spot, knowing 680 00:29:22,908 --> 00:29:26,268 Speaker 15: their backgrounds, gathering information on them. This way, when you 681 00:29:26,388 --> 00:29:29,508 Speaker 15: come together as a click collective in the football operation, 682 00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:31,828 Speaker 15: you can make better decisions as you get closer to 683 00:29:31,868 --> 00:29:34,508 Speaker 15: the draft end of March, beginning of April. That's when 684 00:29:34,508 --> 00:29:37,028 Speaker 15: you start talking about strategy and how you can put 685 00:29:37,068 --> 00:29:40,108 Speaker 15: yourself in a position based on other teams to get 686 00:29:40,108 --> 00:29:44,188 Speaker 15: the players that you want. 687 00:29:45,628 --> 00:29:47,788 Speaker 5: All right, every week here and good morning football, we 688 00:29:47,868 --> 00:29:50,588 Speaker 5: do the Fab five. Well that's the top five rookie 689 00:29:51,268 --> 00:29:54,388 Speaker 5: of the week. This week's got an interesting list. Let's 690 00:29:54,388 --> 00:29:55,348 Speaker 5: start with number five. 691 00:29:55,468 --> 00:29:58,508 Speaker 2: You might not know what he's doing because you're not watching. 692 00:29:58,268 --> 00:30:01,588 Speaker 5: Necessarily all the positions, but Sean O'Hara probably has noticed. 693 00:30:01,668 --> 00:30:07,668 Speaker 5: All right, we're going offensive linemen ot Broderick Jones from 694 00:30:07,748 --> 00:30:08,468 Speaker 5: the Steelers. 695 00:30:09,988 --> 00:30:12,428 Speaker 2: Jones was all over the place this week. 696 00:30:12,548 --> 00:30:16,388 Speaker 5: Broderick Jones second straight start at right tackle right, he 697 00:30:16,468 --> 00:30:19,508 Speaker 5: said three starts this season. Played left tackle in week five, 698 00:30:19,788 --> 00:30:21,788 Speaker 5: played right tackle in weeks nine and ten. Guess what 699 00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:24,188 Speaker 5: they're three and oh in the games that Broderick Jones 700 00:30:24,228 --> 00:30:27,228 Speaker 5: start right. If you're a Jets fan watching, you're probably cringing. 701 00:30:27,228 --> 00:30:29,508 Speaker 5: If you remember the story. The Jets were set to pick, 702 00:30:30,508 --> 00:30:32,788 Speaker 5: the Steelers got in front of them. They took Broderick 703 00:30:32,868 --> 00:30:35,308 Speaker 5: Jones Jets took Will McDonald. We'll never know what the 704 00:30:35,388 --> 00:30:37,428 Speaker 5: Jets were going to do if Broderick Jones was still 705 00:30:37,428 --> 00:30:38,068 Speaker 5: on the board. 706 00:30:38,228 --> 00:30:40,508 Speaker 2: But this is real. Three and oh and starts. They're 707 00:30:40,508 --> 00:30:42,588 Speaker 2: three and three and non starts. They run the ball. 708 00:30:42,788 --> 00:30:45,268 Speaker 5: He's in there, one hundred and fifty three yards per 709 00:30:45,308 --> 00:30:48,348 Speaker 5: game and they don't give up sacks. Broderick Jones has 710 00:30:48,348 --> 00:30:50,908 Speaker 5: been a revelation for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 711 00:30:51,108 --> 00:30:53,268 Speaker 2: You're only going to see more. And I can only 712 00:30:53,308 --> 00:30:54,388 Speaker 2: talk to about this guy. 713 00:30:55,028 --> 00:30:59,508 Speaker 5: Yep, legend authority, the best in the business, Daniel Jeremiah 714 00:30:59,508 --> 00:31:03,428 Speaker 5: says Steelers rookie ot Broderick Jones jumps off the screen 715 00:31:03,468 --> 00:31:06,068 Speaker 5: when you look at all their explosive runs. He is 716 00:31:06,188 --> 00:31:10,028 Speaker 5: dominating home run pick. Shout out to Omar Khan, the 717 00:31:10,108 --> 00:31:13,068 Speaker 5: GM out there and Mike Tomlin, the head coach won 718 00:31:13,108 --> 00:31:13,628 Speaker 5: a selection. 719 00:31:13,748 --> 00:31:16,308 Speaker 2: Broderick Jones has been fantastic. And I'll tell you what. 720 00:31:16,348 --> 00:31:18,588 Speaker 2: The Steelers at six and three might not be pretty, 721 00:31:18,828 --> 00:31:21,788 Speaker 2: they don't care. Broderick Jones is getting it done all right. 722 00:31:21,868 --> 00:31:25,548 Speaker 5: Numberfect four, Number four, We're going to the desert. How 723 00:31:25,548 --> 00:31:32,668 Speaker 5: about Cardinals linebacker bj O Jalari. Yes, Bjojalari, not his 724 00:31:32,748 --> 00:31:35,588 Speaker 5: brother who plays for the Giants, but the LSU product 725 00:31:35,668 --> 00:31:40,068 Speaker 5: bj who was all over the field Sunday against the Falcons. 726 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:43,708 Speaker 5: You watched number eighteen. He was shedding defenders, making place. 727 00:31:43,748 --> 00:31:47,468 Speaker 5: He flies out there, he's got that teen digit outside. 728 00:31:47,108 --> 00:31:49,068 Speaker 2: Of a rusher and it's just a cool look. And 729 00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:51,228 Speaker 2: then he coverage. She was all over the place as well. 730 00:31:51,508 --> 00:31:54,188 Speaker 2: Number eighteen. There, this is bj Ojala. Let's get a 731 00:31:54,228 --> 00:31:55,628 Speaker 2: little bit know about him, all right. 732 00:31:55,668 --> 00:31:58,548 Speaker 5: How about this first NFL career game with two sacks 733 00:31:58,748 --> 00:32:02,908 Speaker 5: more he had it career high thirty seven snaps in 734 00:32:02,988 --> 00:32:05,348 Speaker 5: this game. In week ten, He's got three sacks on 735 00:32:05,428 --> 00:32:07,948 Speaker 5: the year. He's playing well. And if you want to 736 00:32:07,948 --> 00:32:10,668 Speaker 5: listen to this, take a listen to the progress and 737 00:32:10,708 --> 00:32:12,868 Speaker 5: a little bit more increased playing time. 738 00:32:13,468 --> 00:32:14,908 Speaker 2: It's on mister o Jalari. 739 00:32:16,708 --> 00:32:20,388 Speaker 16: It felt pretty good, you know, just being able to 740 00:32:20,428 --> 00:32:22,668 Speaker 16: be out there and make plays for the guys, man 741 00:32:23,428 --> 00:32:26,588 Speaker 16: celebrating with them, them hopping me up, you know, guys 742 00:32:26,668 --> 00:32:30,228 Speaker 16: led k Y Zavan, Dennis, Guys that you know I'm 743 00:32:30,268 --> 00:32:32,748 Speaker 16: a rookie looking up to, you know, telling me a 744 00:32:32,788 --> 00:32:33,228 Speaker 16: good job. 745 00:32:33,348 --> 00:32:37,828 Speaker 2: So it's just an amazing feeling. They're so young. 746 00:32:37,868 --> 00:32:39,548 Speaker 5: It's fun at that. Xavin Collins, I feel like it 747 00:32:39,588 --> 00:32:42,228 Speaker 5: was drafted yesterday. He was the veteran now talking to 748 00:32:42,228 --> 00:32:44,388 Speaker 5: O Jelari and is like, He's like, dah, they're veterans. 749 00:32:44,388 --> 00:32:47,628 Speaker 5: I look up to young Cardinals team, big win Kyler's back. 750 00:32:47,628 --> 00:32:49,468 Speaker 5: We'll see what happens from there. Have about another young team. 751 00:32:49,508 --> 00:32:50,748 Speaker 5: Come number three on our list. 752 00:32:50,788 --> 00:32:52,788 Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, step right up, Come on by Gibbs. 753 00:32:52,828 --> 00:32:55,908 Speaker 5: Then again, second straight ars where Jamiir Gibbs was electric 754 00:32:55,988 --> 00:32:58,468 Speaker 5: in this game. Obviously, you saw a lot of the 755 00:32:58,508 --> 00:33:00,868 Speaker 5: stuff that he did on the Monday night game against 756 00:33:00,868 --> 00:33:02,708 Speaker 5: the Raiders. We picked up right where I left off. 757 00:33:02,868 --> 00:33:04,668 Speaker 5: He's got a little shake to him. That right is 758 00:33:04,708 --> 00:33:07,908 Speaker 5: something that's real. Jamiir Gibbs all right, good week. 759 00:33:07,948 --> 00:33:09,428 Speaker 2: Ten plays. You could see him all here. 760 00:33:09,468 --> 00:33:11,388 Speaker 5: He was all over the play, score, the touchdown obviously. 761 00:33:11,668 --> 00:33:14,308 Speaker 5: But I look at his last two games. Jamier Gibbs 762 00:33:14,348 --> 00:33:17,188 Speaker 5: last two games forty eight touches, two hundred and thirty 763 00:33:17,268 --> 00:33:20,788 Speaker 5: rushing yards, three rushing touchdowns, seventy two receiving yards. Before 764 00:33:20,828 --> 00:33:23,028 Speaker 5: the season, there was an expectation that he would be 765 00:33:23,028 --> 00:33:25,588 Speaker 5: doing kind of slow out of the game. Two straight 766 00:33:25,588 --> 00:33:29,508 Speaker 5: weeks FAB five, Jamier Gibbs doing his thing, and obviously. 767 00:33:29,148 --> 00:33:33,148 Speaker 2: The Lions two straight wins. You're talking about three hundred and. 768 00:33:33,028 --> 00:33:36,748 Speaker 5: One scrimmage yards and three touchdowns in the last two games. 769 00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:38,788 Speaker 5: That's what you get when you draft a guy in 770 00:33:38,828 --> 00:33:40,428 Speaker 5: the top fifteen at running back. 771 00:33:40,508 --> 00:33:42,068 Speaker 4: And he had a big block up on David Montgomery. 772 00:33:42,148 --> 00:33:43,908 Speaker 2: Rong did he did? He was out in front Peter. 773 00:33:43,948 --> 00:33:47,108 Speaker 1: There's some Lions fans were calling gibbson Montgomery rhythm and 774 00:33:47,148 --> 00:33:50,948 Speaker 1: Bruce rhythm, Bruise. That's pretty cool. 775 00:33:51,028 --> 00:33:51,988 Speaker 4: I love pretty slick. 776 00:33:52,188 --> 00:33:54,108 Speaker 2: And they play the RB position. 777 00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:58,468 Speaker 5: Yeah, cut go to the QB position number two for 778 00:33:58,508 --> 00:33:59,508 Speaker 5: the second straight week. 779 00:33:59,708 --> 00:34:00,188 Speaker 2: I say, he. 780 00:34:00,188 --> 00:34:02,588 Speaker 5: Slings it, and he did it again on Sunday night. 781 00:34:02,788 --> 00:34:06,148 Speaker 5: I'm going An O'Connell again. I think this guy, he 782 00:34:06,268 --> 00:34:08,428 Speaker 5: is just making it happen. They're two straight wins, and 783 00:34:08,428 --> 00:34:12,268 Speaker 5: obviously the storyline has been Antonio Pierce and Max Crosby 784 00:34:12,308 --> 00:34:15,028 Speaker 5: and how this defense is stepped up. Aidan O'Connell gets 785 00:34:15,148 --> 00:34:18,668 Speaker 5: the job done. You look at this sixteen to twenty seven, 786 00:34:19,028 --> 00:34:22,028 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty three yards, threw a touchdown pass. 787 00:34:22,068 --> 00:34:23,748 Speaker 2: He's the first Raiders rookie. 788 00:34:23,548 --> 00:34:25,468 Speaker 5: Quarterback to ever win his first two starts. 789 00:34:25,708 --> 00:34:26,588 Speaker 2: Oh wow? 790 00:34:27,148 --> 00:34:29,348 Speaker 5: Really, and he's got more wins as the starter this 791 00:34:29,428 --> 00:34:32,788 Speaker 5: season than Bryce Young and he's only had two starts. 792 00:34:33,108 --> 00:34:36,428 Speaker 5: You're looking at this guy, Aidan O'Connell. Unbelievable job two 793 00:34:36,508 --> 00:34:38,428 Speaker 5: and one as a starting. 794 00:34:38,148 --> 00:34:38,908 Speaker 2: Quarterback this season. 795 00:34:38,948 --> 00:34:40,948 Speaker 5: He lost one earlier in this season, but he's won 796 00:34:40,988 --> 00:34:43,188 Speaker 5: back to back starts as a rookie. That pass to 797 00:34:43,268 --> 00:34:47,708 Speaker 5: Davante was special. And here was Davante talking about get 798 00:34:47,748 --> 00:34:48,228 Speaker 5: out of Purdue. 799 00:34:48,228 --> 00:34:48,948 Speaker 2: Who can sling it? 800 00:34:48,988 --> 00:34:50,828 Speaker 7: Come on, Eighten O'Connell mustache my e. 801 00:34:52,308 --> 00:34:53,188 Speaker 5: He was impressive, man. 802 00:34:53,348 --> 00:34:55,788 Speaker 4: I mean he's cool as the other side of the pillow. 803 00:34:56,068 --> 00:34:58,148 Speaker 2: Dude is not a rookie. 804 00:34:58,228 --> 00:34:58,548 Speaker 13: I don't. 805 00:34:58,908 --> 00:35:00,948 Speaker 16: I mean by years he is, but you know by 806 00:35:00,988 --> 00:35:03,268 Speaker 16: action and like you said that boys that he has 807 00:35:03,428 --> 00:35:04,868 Speaker 16: in no type of situations. 808 00:35:04,468 --> 00:35:09,708 Speaker 2: You don't see that often from a rookie quarterback. That's 809 00:35:09,748 --> 00:35:11,988 Speaker 2: some hat on Davanta. I love that hat. 810 00:35:12,388 --> 00:35:14,948 Speaker 5: No, look at this three and five, their first two 811 00:35:15,268 --> 00:35:16,068 Speaker 5: getting first A games. 812 00:35:16,108 --> 00:35:17,668 Speaker 2: Obviously, McDaniels is the big story. 813 00:35:17,788 --> 00:35:19,988 Speaker 5: How about sindayto O'Connell has taken over as the full 814 00:35:19,988 --> 00:35:23,028 Speaker 5: time starter two and oh twenty three points per game 815 00:35:23,188 --> 00:35:25,348 Speaker 5: three hundred and four total yards per game. 816 00:35:25,828 --> 00:35:27,108 Speaker 2: And O'Connell, we see you. 817 00:35:27,148 --> 00:35:29,788 Speaker 5: I love that he's got like what our our producer, Eric, 818 00:35:29,868 --> 00:35:33,668 Speaker 5: he's got this great passage, He's got that Eric motion 819 00:35:33,748 --> 00:35:35,428 Speaker 5: and that's that Eric. 820 00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:39,308 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Two perdue guys, Eric and Aidan O'Connell. Oh 821 00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:39,988 Speaker 2: big arms. 822 00:35:40,708 --> 00:35:41,148 Speaker 1: Let's go to. 823 00:35:41,188 --> 00:35:42,268 Speaker 2: Number one, Eric Thomas, we. 824 00:35:42,228 --> 00:35:45,748 Speaker 5: See you number one on this week's Fabulous Five for 825 00:35:45,868 --> 00:35:47,148 Speaker 5: the ninetieth week in a row. 826 00:35:47,908 --> 00:35:49,708 Speaker 2: Give it's c J. Stroud. 827 00:35:49,948 --> 00:35:52,708 Speaker 5: This is the scramble play that didn't make the highlights everywhere, 828 00:35:52,868 --> 00:35:53,668 Speaker 5: like unbelievable. 829 00:35:54,148 --> 00:35:55,508 Speaker 2: He looked like Kyler on that one. 830 00:35:55,548 --> 00:35:56,948 Speaker 5: And then at the next play, he's sitting in the 831 00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:59,988 Speaker 5: pocket and he looks like Marino slinging at sixty yards Russell. 832 00:36:00,508 --> 00:36:00,828 Speaker 2: CJ. 833 00:36:00,988 --> 00:36:04,348 Speaker 5: Stroud, fantastic game yet again. 834 00:36:04,388 --> 00:36:07,748 Speaker 2: And you know the stats. I mean, twenty three of 835 00:36:07,828 --> 00:36:09,828 Speaker 2: thirty nine for three hundred and. 836 00:36:09,788 --> 00:36:13,828 Speaker 5: Fifty six yards with a touchdown, with the rushing score 837 00:36:14,108 --> 00:36:16,188 Speaker 5: and most importantly the game winning drive. 838 00:36:16,748 --> 00:36:18,268 Speaker 2: Game is tied. He's got to go to the length 839 00:36:18,268 --> 00:36:19,868 Speaker 2: of the field. He takes him there for the second 840 00:36:19,948 --> 00:36:24,068 Speaker 2: straight week. Stroud is awesome. And then like there's a 841 00:36:24,068 --> 00:36:25,868 Speaker 2: lot of talk about how Stroud is. 842 00:36:25,828 --> 00:36:29,108 Speaker 5: So steady and how you know he does give glory 843 00:36:29,148 --> 00:36:30,868 Speaker 5: to God and he's so faith based it. He's just 844 00:36:30,908 --> 00:36:34,108 Speaker 5: a sutra grounded guy. Don't get it twisted. This guy's 845 00:36:34,148 --> 00:36:36,668 Speaker 5: got some swagger too. Take a look at the locker 846 00:36:36,748 --> 00:36:42,028 Speaker 5: room CJ. Stroud after the game. That's it. 847 00:36:42,548 --> 00:36:44,908 Speaker 2: Oh, I so wish I could be in that locker room. 848 00:36:44,948 --> 00:36:46,028 Speaker 2: This place is electric. 849 00:36:46,388 --> 00:36:49,548 Speaker 5: The Houston Texans are believing Jamico has it all working, 850 00:36:49,828 --> 00:36:52,588 Speaker 5: and CJ. Stroud is the guy who is leading the way. 851 00:36:53,148 --> 00:36:55,908 Speaker 5: Fifteen passing touchdowns, two interceptions. 852 00:36:56,108 --> 00:36:58,268 Speaker 2: That's the best in the league when you're talking about ratio. 853 00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:01,588 Speaker 5: Wow, entire league rookies to leave the NFL in passing 854 00:37:01,628 --> 00:37:03,708 Speaker 5: yards in a season, has it ever done? 855 00:37:03,788 --> 00:37:04,308 Speaker 4: The last time? 856 00:37:05,388 --> 00:37:08,508 Speaker 2: Nineteen thirty nine. Davey O'Brien so good. They ain't the 857 00:37:08,548 --> 00:37:11,348 Speaker 2: trophy after him. Sammy Ball did it too. 858 00:37:11,548 --> 00:37:15,948 Speaker 5: Slinging sound you got a nickname Slinging from nineteen thirty seven. 859 00:37:16,868 --> 00:37:18,588 Speaker 2: This is what Stroud's doing. He leads the league in 860 00:37:18,668 --> 00:37:21,468 Speaker 2: passing yards per game. He's number one. And I might 861 00:37:21,508 --> 00:37:22,068 Speaker 2: just drop the. 862 00:37:22,028 --> 00:37:24,188 Speaker 5: Cards and drop the segment because I don't know if 863 00:37:24,188 --> 00:37:27,348 Speaker 5: anyone's gonna ever usurp him. From that list right there, 864 00:37:27,948 --> 00:37:30,428 Speaker 5: it's week to week for the season. He's already won 865 00:37:30,468 --> 00:37:32,388 Speaker 5: Offensive Rookie the Year. I don't care what anyone else does, 866 00:37:32,668 --> 00:37:34,668 Speaker 5: but week to week he's the best rookie. 867 00:37:34,708 --> 00:37:36,788 Speaker 2: It's not just like comumulative. 868 00:37:36,108 --> 00:37:38,468 Speaker 5: Like week two, Week eight and O'Connell second stary. Week 869 00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:41,188 Speaker 5: number two gives number three. I like the defender and 870 00:37:41,228 --> 00:37:43,548 Speaker 5: I love having the big ot. Toss it over here, 871 00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,268 Speaker 5: Kyle Brant, I'm gonna throw you a pass. 872 00:37:45,388 --> 00:37:50,148 Speaker 1: Gosh oh, that's it, slinging stragerlingin Peters. One of my 873 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:54,788 Speaker 1: favorite meme mechanisms is when they say if Mahomes did this, 874 00:37:54,908 --> 00:37:57,508 Speaker 1: then blah blah blah that play by Stroud where he's 875 00:37:57,508 --> 00:37:59,028 Speaker 1: doing the spin in the back foot throw. 876 00:37:59,228 --> 00:38:00,428 Speaker 4: If Mahomes did. 877 00:38:00,268 --> 00:38:02,148 Speaker 1: That, it was an incredible play that should have been 878 00:38:02,188 --> 00:38:03,068 Speaker 1: in every highlight package. 879 00:38:03,108 --> 00:38:05,188 Speaker 5: Really, let's think about our New York's studios. I can 880 00:38:05,228 --> 00:38:07,828 Speaker 5: throw it from this camera to that one. You know, 881 00:38:07,948 --> 00:38:08,948 Speaker 5: Jamie can catch. 882 00:38:08,748 --> 00:38:10,468 Speaker 7: It true in a studio though you can't. 883 00:38:10,468 --> 00:38:13,228 Speaker 3: You gotta sometimes you gotta do like the side arm. 884 00:38:13,468 --> 00:38:15,188 Speaker 3: You know what I love, Peter is the presence of 885 00:38:15,268 --> 00:38:17,668 Speaker 3: Javier Gibbs on the Fab five list and the fact 886 00:38:17,708 --> 00:38:20,188 Speaker 3: that Ben Johnson was your Coach of the week as well. 887 00:38:21,028 --> 00:38:24,468 Speaker 3: The simpatico comes up again, the creativity which we were 888 00:38:24,508 --> 00:38:29,508 Speaker 3: all looking forward to from Ben Johnson and the positionless players. Yeah, 889 00:38:29,548 --> 00:38:32,028 Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't rhythm and bruise. You're not just an RB. 890 00:38:32,188 --> 00:38:35,228 Speaker 3: He is positionless PT. I'm just gonna pitch it over 891 00:38:35,268 --> 00:38:36,988 Speaker 3: to Mice. Assume you're going. 892 00:38:36,828 --> 00:38:38,748 Speaker 7: With offensive US and Proderick Jones. 893 00:38:39,508 --> 00:38:41,428 Speaker 4: I love that you're sharing and spreading some love for 894 00:38:41,428 --> 00:38:41,788 Speaker 4: the old line. 895 00:38:41,788 --> 00:38:44,428 Speaker 6: And let's talk about Roderick Jones and let's talk about 896 00:38:45,308 --> 00:38:47,268 Speaker 6: like some of the grip strength that they talk about 897 00:38:47,268 --> 00:38:49,188 Speaker 6: with offensive Line. You showed one of the highlights on 898 00:38:49,228 --> 00:38:51,028 Speaker 6: there and it's not just him blocking somebody, but he 899 00:38:51,148 --> 00:38:51,828 Speaker 6: like use. 900 00:38:51,748 --> 00:38:54,028 Speaker 4: A snatch technique that's next level. 901 00:38:54,148 --> 00:38:56,548 Speaker 6: Like it's snatched where you knock the guns down and 902 00:38:56,628 --> 00:38:57,428 Speaker 6: go down to the ground. 903 00:38:58,068 --> 00:38:58,508 Speaker 4: Not a lot of. 904 00:38:58,548 --> 00:39:00,268 Speaker 6: Rookies do that. That's a vet move and something kind 905 00:39:00,268 --> 00:39:01,988 Speaker 6: of learned later on. And you're O, he's already got 906 00:39:01,988 --> 00:39:04,028 Speaker 6: that down, pat. And what I will say is for 907 00:39:04,068 --> 00:39:06,028 Speaker 6: Proderick Drones, think about this. Who does he get to 908 00:39:06,068 --> 00:39:07,548 Speaker 6: go and get in practice of j. 909 00:39:10,388 --> 00:39:11,188 Speaker 4: That makes you better? 910 00:39:11,228 --> 00:39:14,228 Speaker 6: Of course, he was blocking Jaalen Carter and Trayvon Walker 911 00:39:14,268 --> 00:39:16,188 Speaker 6: in college when he's back at Georgia, so you know 912 00:39:16,268 --> 00:39:18,948 Speaker 6: he's doing a good job. He fits the Steelers though 913 00:39:18,988 --> 00:39:19,748 Speaker 6: from a mindset. 914 00:39:19,908 --> 00:39:21,028 Speaker 2: Let's go that thought