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Speaker 1: Hmm.

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Speaker 2: There's a place beyond this place, a middle ground between

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Speaker 2: the light and the darkness, the natre and the zenith.

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Speaker 2: For some, it's a bridge between the living and the dead.

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Speaker 2: Yet for others, it's something else. Entirely, it's the place

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Speaker 2: where our nightmares dwell. Each one of us has touched

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Speaker 2: the other side and felt the presence of something beyond

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Speaker 2: this world. In this next story, we venture into the

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Speaker 2: heart of Brooklyn, a place where cultures collide and folklore

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Speaker 2: lives on in the modern world. Here, amidst the concrete jungle,

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Speaker 2: in the hustle of city life, Rowdy Rebel found himself

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Speaker 2: haunted by an eerie figure, a man who's very presence

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Speaker 2: and stilled fear in those who crossed his path, A

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Speaker 2: man rumored to be a practitioner of voodoo. For an

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Speaker 2: eight year old Rowdy Rebel, it was the stuff of nightmares.

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Speaker 3: So this is your boy, Roddy Rebel. I grew up

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Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, New York, Eastpott pushed to be a zach.

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Speaker 4: And this happened to be a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: When I was like, I want to say, nine years old,

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Speaker 3: ten years old, I was coming up in Brooklyn, and

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Speaker 3: I used to go to school. I used to walk

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Speaker 3: Everybody in the neighborhood alwaysknew me. Everybody always like my

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Speaker 3: pops and respecting him. So I used to go to

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Speaker 3: school everything same route. Used to walk up fifty first,

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Speaker 3: fifty second, fifty third, then go to piss was just

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Speaker 3: pissed two sixty eight right there on the corner. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: I used to see like this lady come out the

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Speaker 3: store and always brought me candy. She used to buy

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Speaker 3: like all the little kids candy at the after school.

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Speaker 3: She was from the neighborhood. She was a sweet lady.

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Speaker 3: But she used to always tell us about this voodoo man.

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Speaker 3: But it's this this Haitian man. We used to call

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Speaker 3: him the Voodo man. So we never really seen this

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Speaker 3: guy til I got older. I got older, I moved

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Speaker 3: to the nineties, alright, So growing up in the nineties,

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Speaker 3: like it was like basically it was. My neighborhood is

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Speaker 3: like mostly like a West Indian vibe on West Indian fail,

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Speaker 3: so you would have fucking Jamaicans on one block. You

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Speaker 3: I have a bunch of Haitians on another block, Trainees

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Speaker 4: Then you have the s hokey stores.

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Speaker 3: And then like where I was coming from, like there

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Speaker 3: was a lot of hustling going on, a lot of

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Speaker 3: danga banging going on for me. So that was really

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Speaker 3: my neighborhood. Like I don't know, I used to live

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Speaker 3: in the fifties first, and I went to the nineties.

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Speaker 3: When I went to the nineties, I used to see

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Speaker 3: earrings were not like an airring, you know when you

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Speaker 3: get your ears pissed, but it's like a big hole

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Speaker 3: like then he had three of those in his lips,

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Speaker 3: and like his face.

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Speaker 4: Had stars on it.

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Speaker 3: He had one eye that was like not like not

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Speaker 3: cock eyt it, but like a high face shut and

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Speaker 3: the other eye was fully open. Like, Bro, this nigga

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Speaker 3: like a straight like someway a movie, Like somebody put

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Speaker 3: him on a movie scene like a straight character. It

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Speaker 3: was so scary. Bro, It's like one of the scariest

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Speaker 3: shit I ever seen in my life. I used to

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Speaker 3: run for this guy, like I used to start like

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Speaker 3: like I don't know what it was like. It was

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Speaker 3: like like I used to be so scared, shook on

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Speaker 3: who was this guy for my pops? Like, yo's a

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Speaker 3: Haitian man minus business.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry about.

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Speaker 3: Him, so boom.

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Speaker 4: I used to go home. I used to tell my

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Speaker 3: Listen, when you see this man eye sitting up a TI,

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Speaker 3: don't talk to him. I don't even even lodge him.

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Speaker 3: Then later on I start having dreams about this ship

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Speaker 3: like yo, and on my tripping like yeah, I had

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you. But then I used to be before

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Speaker 3: I used to have nightmares about him. I used to

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Speaker 3: like both of them was in the dream. Bro swearch

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Speaker 3: to God. Yeah, he used to do these videos like

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Speaker 3: give me some mouth, the cheese at give me some mouth.

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Speaker 3: He used to have like these characters in the videos,

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Speaker 4: It was just so scary to me, Like his face

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Speaker 4: expression is like I was like, nah, it's a scary gler.

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Speaker 3: I used to see the magga like after you know,

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Speaker 3: when you see somebody one time they I seen him again.

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Speaker 3: I seen him again, seen him again. I should see

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Speaker 3: this sticker all the time. Bro, I used to be shook.

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Speaker 3: They used to go home, they start for night in this,

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Speaker 3: I started talking about Pops again, Like, yo, bro, this

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Speaker 4: I should see this guy. Think he chased me or

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Speaker 3: You see me and I run like I still see

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Speaker 4: Like I'll be at a park playing ball. I see

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Speaker 3: Like a couple of days to go by again, I

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Speaker 3: this snicker one time. I'm going to a basketball game. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I never figure this day, but I'm going to a

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Speaker 3: I seen this nigga.

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Speaker 4: I'm one of my bag was sticking and drop my bag.

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Speaker 4: So now when I'm about to go back for the bag,

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Speaker 4: get to the game, I don't got my shorts.

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Speaker 3: I had to bar shorts for niggas blost my whole

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Speaker 3: bag day, bro, Like super scared for listening, Like you

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Speaker 3: I must say, like probably when I got like thirteen,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, like I think I was getting

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's one of my hord stories right there.

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Speaker 4: That Ayes.

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Speaker 2: Rowdy Rebel chose a path to let him away from

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Speaker 2: one form of darkness into another. Ironically, by embracing the streets,

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Speaker 2: he found reprieve from the haunting gaze of his voodoo tormentor.

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Speaker 4: But at what cost.

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Speaker 2: Fear is a powerful motivator, one that can drive us

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Speaker 2: to make choices we never thought possible. Whether it's the

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Speaker 2: our own worldly choices, we are all haunted in our

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Speaker 2: paths you tread, and always remember some fears are conquered,

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Speaker 2: only to be replaced by others. Growing up, we see

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Speaker 2: the years pass. Or maybe we feel an energy to

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Speaker 2: at least for a brief moment in time. Whatever the

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Speaker 5: This next story explores just that.

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Speaker 2: On this episode we have La Legend Radio Royalty and

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Speaker 2: overall amazing human being, Big Boy. We're honored to have

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Speaker 2: him on the show sharing his hip hop horror story.

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Speaker 5: All right, let me try to paint this scenario for

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Speaker 1: Right, it was twelve years of age and we were

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Speaker 1: living in Los Angeles and at the time we were

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Speaker 1: going through a homeless situation. So we ended up moving

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Speaker 1: from mont named the Coleman family.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure how my mom.

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Speaker 1: Knew these people, but they were gracious and kind enough

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Speaker 5: The house was, you know, an LA basic house.

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Speaker 1: I think it was three or four bedrooms, four bedrooms

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Speaker 1: eight of us that moved into this household with these people,

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Speaker 1: we had to kind of like sleep where we could.

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Speaker 5: So my brother and I, my brother.

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Speaker 1: Mouse, we would sleep in the back like where there

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Speaker 5: It was the.

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Speaker 1: Last part of the back of the house that led

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Speaker 1: remember one time I was in the living room and

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Speaker 1: you know how when you have the arrowhead or the

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Speaker 5: And it only does that when you're dispensing water.

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Speaker 1: I was in the living room and I heard in

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Speaker 1: So I started to feel like, man, are we getting

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Speaker 1: these you know, these vibes of he's here. They spoke

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Speaker 5: I never seen the picture of their mom, who.

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Speaker 1: Also was deceased, But you just felt these things in

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Speaker 5: We were actually staying with this.

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Speaker 1: Family in his home, like his room was his room.

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Speaker 5: This is this man's house.

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Speaker 1: So one night, my brother and I my brother Mouse,

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Speaker 1: And when I looked over at my brother Mouse was

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Speaker 1: completely knocked out. So I hear the door open. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm literally laying on the floor like on blankets. I

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Speaker 1: I'm like fucking shook. My brother's literally laying next to me.

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Speaker 1: So when the door opened, it could have been anyone

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Speaker 1: and I cocked my left eye open, and the door

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like my older brother or one of my

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Speaker 1: The door like Kurt Hey, none of that. You don't

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Speaker 1: see a hand pushing it open. You don't see a

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Speaker 1: And I know it sounds like a scary movie, but

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Speaker 1: it was like a not the sound, but the way

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Speaker 5: And it's freaking the shit out of me. But I

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Speaker 5: In the pillow. Okay, I don't want to see nothing.

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Speaker 1: So as I'm laying there, I rotate my head and

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Speaker 1: Vividly now I'm gazed at it and I see it.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to my brother Mouse. Before I could say anything,

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Speaker 1: I'm like Kenny man, which is Mouse. I'm like Kenny.

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Speaker 1: Of when someone's breaking that wind when they're passing by you.

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Speaker 1: that's where our father used to go, and that was

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Speaker 1: And they said there were nights when if he couldn't sleep,

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Speaker 5: And I said, he was like thin face. I describe

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Speaker 5: Like a Derby cap.

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Speaker 1: Soon as I said Derby cap, the entire family started crying.

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Speaker 1: They said, I explained their father exactly how their father

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Speaker 5: that was like his area.

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Speaker 1: It was peaceful, the onies being scared and frightening. Shit

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Speaker 1: that you spend some time trying to talk away, or

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Speaker 1: you spend some time like, man, did that really happen?

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Speaker 1: And as I'm sitting here today, like shit, it was

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Speaker 2: Should we fear the things we don't understand or should

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Speaker 2: we have an open mind to the various entities we

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Speaker 2: may see in our short time here? Big Boy, although

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Speaker 2: fearful felt a sense of calm when he went through

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Speaker 2: courageous enough to look up and receive it. That's all

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Speaker 2: the time we got for tonight. I'm your host, Belly.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to hip hop horror stories.