WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What’s A Die-Hard Fan? 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:18.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.880 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.240 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.600 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.919 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.519 It is one of November eighteenth, two twenty, season sixteen, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.800 episode number sixty six. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.440 The Break. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage studios 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.479 at the Star. Dave Hellman's here in studio with me. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.440 We're gonna have a lot of fun goodness. We Scott, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.760 Amber and Nick at their own respective places, but we'll 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.720 let them join in. We will have our finger on 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.679 the button of Nick's microphone if it gets to how 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.640 it got yesterday. We will mute him at some point 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.440 if he starts causing problems like he did yesterday. But 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.680 we're actually gonna pick that conversation up here in the 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.720 first segment, a little later in the first segment, because 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.800 I do think it's only fair to give Amber and 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.039 Dave an opportunity to chime into that conversation For those 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.800 of you who weren't listening yesterday, We'll wait and tee 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.640 that up when we get there. Let's start first though, 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.119 a couple of news items. Mike McCarthy and his press 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.119 conference today talked about Andy Dalton and Tyrone Crawford. Dave, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.119 what is the status on those two guys at this point? 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.399 They're back. We kinda Andy, we kind of felt like 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.280 that was happening on Monday, but further confirmation he's off 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.800 the COVID list. He's kind of practice. Tyrone is off 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.880 the COVID list, I believe as well, kind of practice. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.000 So they're good to go. Yeah, it's interesting to me 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:53.720 because we don't we don't talk a lot of we 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.440 haven't talked a lot this year about Tyrone Crawford. What 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.320 do you guys how he just sets his place so 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.040 far this year? I mean, obviously, nobody on the defense 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:05.040 has been great. Thank's been pretty good, but nobody's been great. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.880 But there are a lot of guys that have been poor. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.160 And it's hard to sometimes single out a lot of 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.359 guys because everybody's not doing so well. But how would 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.560 you assess Tyron Crawford's play this year? Right? That's like 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.800 you set me up for like a Nick Tech comment 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.160 right off the bat right there, and you're like, we 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.560 haven't talked a whole lot about Tyron Crawford. Is like, well, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:30.320 the reason why why would we? Um, He's he's been Honestly, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.639 I can't do sound like Nick Yeah, I mean, I 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.920 don't know, I don't have Tyron Crawford has been outstanding. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:42.040 Tyron Crawford is amazing. He's outstanding. There you go, there's 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.280 something behind that? What is no? What is behind that? 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.120 Because you're not just a TM video? Okay, got it? 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:55.480 Fear fear now. I I love him as a guy. Um, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.720 but I mean, and I can't say that he's been awful, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.560 but he certainly hasn't made like this crazy impact. And 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.120 especially you know that was kind of a selling point 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.840 throughout the offseason, was like, and he is. He has 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.120 been a better player than he's gotten credit for a 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.440 lot during his career. And the leadership aspect that you know, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.920 we set all offseason that he brings the defense didn't 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.799 really look like it showed up in the first half 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.000 of the season, to be blunt about it, and for 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:27.040 that matter, didn't really see him being a difference maker 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.880 for a defensive line that really needed it. They've been 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.880 better the last two weeks. I'll be interested to see 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.640 how that progresses. But you know, a lot of a 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.400 lot of people wanted to come for Tyrone's money, and 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.480 I you know, they probably feel vindicated right now because 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.080 he hasn't been playing up to it. Definitely not Nick. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.000 You expect him to be be here as part of 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:53.600 this team next year. M I don't know about that. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.200 I got to look closer to this contract, but I 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.320 believe this is the year where they could probably Yeah, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.840 I actually, you know, he's a last year. This is 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.000 the last year. You know, you we've we've been burned 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.640 before about that, thinking no way, no way, he's coming back. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.960 But you know, it just depends on what his market 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.760 value is and and you know, guys that have position 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.120 flex that can play a lot of things. I think 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.560 the position flex has hurt him over his career. I 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.360 just don't think it's it's he's been able to just 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.520 lock in on one spot and so but I you know, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.880 coaches like to have it. It's unfortunate this last game, 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.719 um Jalen Smith doesn't get that penalty on the legal 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.080 contact or whatever. I mean, he had the sack forced 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.919 fumble that returned, you know, returned by Aldon Smith that 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.440 would have been a difference making play in and maybe 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.600 an upset over Pittsburgh. And maybe we're talking about Crawford differently. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.040 All it takes is one or two plays for us 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.520 to completely change our scripts sometimes on guys. So you know, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.719 it's unfortunate, But I don't know about him coming back 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.760 next year. It's it's just gonna see what what the 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.880 market is for him. What do you think, Amber, I 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:06.960 think the injuries, I mean that has hurt him. And yes, 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.840 you always love a guy that has that kind of 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.520 flexibility that you can kind of move around depending on 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.719 your needs. But at the same time, and you talk 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.440 about his performance this year, yes, at times you're like, oh, yeah, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.479 Tyrone Crawford, what is that guy up to and you 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.680 wonder what he has done. But at the same time, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.200 sometimes that isn't necessarily a bad thing. You know, It's 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.360 not like we're over here talking about Tyrone Crawford being 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.920 horrible and letting plays happen and allowing sacks to happen, 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:42.000 or not creating enough pressures on quarterbacks and allowing guys 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.039 to get through him. So it's kind of it makes 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:50.200 both And when you look at the the amount of 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.080 plays that the defense hasn't been able to create, I 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:59.280 think that he would be one guy that hasn't necessarily 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:04.480 been my highest worry at least this year. I just 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.480 I was just thinking, and I don't want to put 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.560 words in his mouth. Obviously, only he knows what the 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.920 future holds for him. But like I wonder if Tyrone 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:15.520 Crawford will play football next year. I just, you know what, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.640 he was drafted in twenty twelve, so he's I mean, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.320 he's been in the league for a decade. He's not 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.320 bested veteran, he is not a spring chicken. He's coming 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.520 off double hip surgery. I bet you know, if I 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.760 had to guess, he would probably tell you, you know, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.279 not that he wants to make excuses, but he probably 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.080 ain't feeling great. He kind of he alluded to that 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.400 last time he talked to the media. Just, you know, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.320 I feel like I'm in year ten of the NFL. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.520 I feel like I had double hip surgery. Like this. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.640 It's ain't always fun, you know, And I've always gotten 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.120 the impression that, you know, he's a guy that's gonna 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.719 be in DFW when he's done playing, Like he's he's 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.160 got a family, he's you know, he's settled down, he's 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.400 putting roots down here. And so you know, if it, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.159 you know, if he gets through this season and he 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.400 doesn't have a robust market somewhere, you know, like, is 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.719 he gonna uproot his life to name a city Tampa 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.000 for one year or one year deal? I don't know. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.720 It wouldn't surprise me if if the Cowboys, if they 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.800 can't come to some agreements on a deal, maybe he's 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.160 just like, yeah, I've had a pretty good career and 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.320 that's good enough. Typic. Just the thought though, like I mean, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.960 like I said, I don't want to. I can't. Only 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:20.679 he knows the answer to that, But it's just something 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.640 that I've had in my brain. Typically, if you see 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.760 players doing that, sometimes they're chasing a ring, but outside 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.120 of that, you're right, you get to a certain point 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.920 where it's not fun anymore, Like the pain is not 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:33.400 worth what you're what you're actually going and doing on Sunday. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.880 And so there are guys that make that decision. A 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.320 lot of guys make that decision at some point. All right, Um, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.280 Nick tell us a little bit about this bubble. We 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.320 heard Jerry talk about it yesterday where Mike McCarthy talk 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.480 about it today. You are one of the few people 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.720 in our part of the world that are tiered, and 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.560 obviously you're not in the bubble, but I'm talking about 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.440 what's happening with this this bubble. Well, they're just trying 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.720 to be as safe as possible here. They're the Tier 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.200 two employees, the staff members that are really in close 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.280 contact with the players all the time, UH that they're 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.840 opening up the Omni UH for for them to be 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.720 a part of it as well, to be in the 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.960 bubble so that they're not going home. And you know, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.160 I think and you know, being around I guess you 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.040 know kids, family that that that could have the virus, 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.760 and so you know, you just want to, you know, 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.400 try to make things as safe as possible for these guys. Um. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.360 There are there are some members that that we know, 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.120 some some Tier two staffers that have been moved over 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.800 there to UH to the Omni and so you know, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.040 you're right, I'm not in that group, and I'm fortunate 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.880 for that, but but you know, I just think that 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.120 the Cowboys are trying to take every step possible to 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.040 be as safe as possible here for this final seven 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.400 games of the season. Yeah, it's not more. That's a 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:51.840 really really, really big uh um challenge. I think for 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.600 a lot of people, if you're in that that mix, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.000 having to be away from your family for presumably seven weeks, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.280 it feels it kind of feels like we're getting close 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.920 to the finish line because like Thanksgivings right around the corner, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.640 but we're not. No. I mean, three of these games 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.080 are going to happen really quickly, three games in eleven days, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.920 but even I mean there's two months left in the season. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.000 That is a long time as a live in a hotel. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.560 I mean, we all know because we go out to 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.600 California for training camp, where we're gone for you know 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.360 that three and a half to four and a half weeks, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.360 and that seems like a ton of time. And you're 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.839 out in California. Imagine being this close in Dallas, but 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.360 you can't get there, right. That's a that's a challenge. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.839 It's an investment I think that they're making here to 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.360 to try to get through this season and hopefully it 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.480 all works out to where they can't get through the season. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.280 Without any major hiccups. All right, let's let's go ahead 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.480 and move on to I want to hit this this 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.360 topic that yesterday came up right as we were ending 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.240 the show. Nick was making a point, and I don't 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:50.600 want to put words in your mountain, Nick, So I'm 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.920 gonna turn over to you and let you remake that 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.480 point because I know that during the show I could see. 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.360 I went back and watched it. Dave, the look on 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.240 your face was kind of priceless because I could tell 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.360 you had something burning that you really wanted to say. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.439 But this show is pretty much over. Not only that, 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.760 but I just, I honestly was just laughing imagining. I 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.520 was like, Twitter is gonna have a field day with 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.560 this an idea. They had fun with it last night. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.240 But Nick, make the point again and then let's let's 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.240 have a little discussion on it. Yeah, And I just 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:18.719 shouldn't have done that at the very end of the 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.679 show and not giving anybody a chance to address it. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.880 But you know, really, what I'm saying is is that 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.800 you know, hear a lot of talk about the Cowboys 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.960 should tank or whatever. All I was saying is is 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.160 that the true die hard fans diehard fans that just 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.080 that every single game that they're so invested with the team. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.520 I don't think a true die hard fan wants the 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.960 team to lose. They can see the big picture. They 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.600 can see a silver lining at the end of the 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.800 game or whatever, like, well, you know, at least we 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.400 maybe we're gonna get a better draft pick. But as 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.600 the game's going on, if you've been doing this for 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.080 thirty eight, fifty one years, sixty years, whatever, there's no 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.640 way that you want your team to lose the game. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.680 If you've been invested for so long, you can see 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.640 at the end. Okay, I guess I'm not gonna be 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.840 that mad about it. That's fine, not gonna throw my 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.960 remote control today or punch a wall today. But you know, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.079 I want us to win. And that's what I think. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.800 I think true diehards never really want their team to 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.400 lose in the moment. They might see the big picture 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:22.240 at the end of it, though, Dave, I mean it 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.760 makes me smile too, because I kind of I can see, 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.480 I can see the whole spectrum. My big thing is 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.840 really like I don't I don't like to tell anybody 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.080 how to be a fan, because my whole thing is 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.679 like there's no there's no like entry requirement to this, 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.559 Like you know, I mean Cowboy fans from all over 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.160 the world. There's people that are going to listen to 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.840 this who live in Europe. There's like here in DFW, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.240 somebody in Newport News is listening to this, and like, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.000 all you have to do is just decide you like 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.439 the team, and it's land. Really like my only requirement 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.560 after that is that you just stick with it. That's 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.400 really don't jump around, don't up, don't jump around, but 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.440 like you can all walks of life. It doesn't matter 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:04.839 how you got here, it doesn't matter if it was 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:06.760 five years ago, it doesn't matter if it was like 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.560 in the womb. Just as long as you stick with 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.120 That's really my only requirements. I mean, like that's any 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.640 any fanhood really and I legitimate. I mean I think 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.760 there are die no I know there are because I 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.960 know them personally. There are die hard, die hard Cowboy fans. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.880 And to Nix's point, maybe you are not just sitting 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.520 there on Sunday actively rooting for them to lose, but 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.120 you're you know, you turn on their moment. You're like 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.400 all right, boys, like let's let's put forth a better effort, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.920 but like, don't play too well, don't play too well, 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.320 And I I think there are legitimately die hard Cowboy 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.040 fans who believe that. And you know, maybe it feels 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.280 weird to say you're rooting for them to lose, but 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.319 you know that same person will tell you that a 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.480 win and a loss is the difference between getting the 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.719 stud I mean, let's you know, we don't have to 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.800 use real players, but the stud edge rusher. You know, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.720 it could be the difference between Chase Young at number 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.640 two for Washington last year or if you win that 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.440 one extra game. Now you're trying to tuck yourself into 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.560 a cornerback that you don't really love because that's what's 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.920 available for you. You know, the Cowboys they got lucky 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.760 that they loved Cede, like they got lucky that Ceedee 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.800 Lamb was there. Otherwise, Now you're talking about, like do 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.880 we take treyvon digs here like Calavan Chase on the 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.079 pass rest of at LSU, Like do we really love him? 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.840 I guess we do. Like that's the that's the position 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.840 that you're in when you win too many games. So 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.280 I see both sides of it. And if you don't 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.360 want the Cowboys to win another game. I don't think 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.080 that means you're less of a fan because you're listening 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.679 to this show, or you know, God knows how much 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.800 money you've spent on hoodies and T shirts and coming 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.560 down here trying to or you know there's people that 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.920 live all over the country that you know. I go 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.240 to one road game a year wherever the closest one is, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.240 like all that stuff, and they're doing all that and 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.600 if if, if you don't want them to win another game, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.120 it doesn't make you less of a fan. If you're 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.880 doing all the rest of that stuff, you're watching, you 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.240 are watching the game in a lost season and you 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.000 want them to lose it, but you're watching like you 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.640 are putting in that effort. Like I said, you're not like, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.679 if you're not paying attention because the team is bad, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.840 then you're not you're a bad fan. You're a bad 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.000 fan if you're not paying attention because the team is bad. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.440 But if you're invested, even if you want them to lose, 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.960 I still think you're you're a pretty good fan. Amber 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:26.160 you have some thoughts on this, not really because I'm 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.280 not a die hard fan of anything. I mean, any 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:34.040 team whatsoever. So I don't really all I can say. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.120 All I can say is I am very much invested 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.320 with the Cowboys because of the job obviously, and we 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:41.960 get to watch it and we get to know a 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.640 lot of the players and all that. So game day 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.440 comes and I do care. And like I said yesterday, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.840 it depends on what day of the week you're asking 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.560 me this question, because I can care less during the 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.680 week and be like, you know what, screwed whatever, they stuck, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.560 let them lose. But then game they come, so I'm like, oh, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.320 my freaking guy, like, what are you guys doing? They 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.200 upset me so much. So I do want them to win. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.840 But for example, taking last season. Last season, I was 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.240 to the point where I towards the end of the year, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.520 I didn't want them to win because in me, I 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.440 knew they didn't have it in them to make it 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.600 through the playoffs. Like if they did make the playoffs, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.240 I knew they couldn't get much further than that. So 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.200 I'm like, Okay, what's the point of keep this going? 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.800 Of keeping this going? So's it sucks. It sucks being 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.160 a fan of anything because you there are so many 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.400 emotions involved in it and at one moment, you may 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.560 be thinking one thing and looking into the draft, but 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.560 then at another moment, you care, you really care about 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.280 the game, and you do want your team to be 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.680 able to be competitive and to be able to have 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.760 some kind of success. Yeah, I think she nailed it 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.760 when she said it sucks being a fan, because it 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.080 really it really does it. And Nick, you told me 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.760 this when we're talking about this earlier, like being a fan, 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.840 especially being a die hard fan, it's probably not healthy 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.320 all the time. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna probably 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.000 destroy some things, including some relationships. Like, it's probably not 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.000 gonna be good for you all the time. And I 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.160 know for Nick and Dave and myself to some degree, 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.360 like we're all really really big fans of our college team, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.760 and it's some Saturdays just aren't good. Like you, it 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.520 ruins your entire week what happens on Saturday. And I'm 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.800 sure there's some fans out there right now that are 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.800 thinking the same way about the Scoutboys team on Sundays. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.320 But I guess the point of what I was trying 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.760 to make yesterday is for those folks, there's still some 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.960 of them that look at it like, hey, I'm going 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.480 through a tough season anyway, I'm gonna have to feel 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.520 all of this anyway. If I come out of it 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.160 with a top three pick, that actually makes me feel 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.520 a little bit better about it. And so you can 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.040 be a die hard fan and still be like, this 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.280 season is a lost cause, so let's get all the 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:55.960 week can get out of this lost cause. I meant 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.680 to add that too, is I think this whole tanking thing, 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.400 it's also it's a coping mechant, right, It's a way 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.520 to make yourself feel better about the overwhelming likelihood that 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.320 you're not gonna see that many more wins, and you say, well, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.560 this sucks, but this is sort of my security blanket 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.680 that's gonna make me sleep better at night. Yeah, it's 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.879 your silver lining, right. My favorite thing about this show, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.399 you know, Nick Nick is a I mean Nick is 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.159 like one of the most die hard sports fans I've 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.640 ever met. The fact that anybody could be a lifelong 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.040 Arkansas fanatic speaks to that. I don't mean that as 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.000 a shot. I mean, but it's no, he sticks with 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:38.040 this team and he lives it's truth. But no, sorry, no, 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.000 go ahead, go ahead, No, I mean you're right. I mean, 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.199 I don't have a lot of wins. I mean I 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.919 had a I mean I was holding onto the nineteen 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.199 ninety four Basketball Championship forever. I mean, like that's just 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.200 we don't have a lot of a lot of big victories. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.359 But you know, when you're an Arkansas fan, it's a 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.240 it's like a cult. And you know I've said this 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.720 a thousand times. I'll say it again. When you're a big, 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:00.720 a diehard fan of somebody, you don't choose to be 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.080 a fan. I mean, it chooses you. Somebody chose you 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.240 to be a Dallas Cowboy fan or LSU fan or whatever. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.600 I mean, unless you just choose to go to the school. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.399 For the most part, your fandom chooses you, and so 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.320 you have to accept it. And I'll just say this. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.720 You guys are making all these points and I agree 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.520 with it. All I'm saying is is the point I'm 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.199 making is in the game. And Dave, I challenge you. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.520 I don't think that your fans that you're talking about 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.840 are grabbing a terrible towel as Gilbert is driving down 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.320 the field and be like, God, I hope he doesn't score. No. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.520 Because you're a Cowboy fan, you want to win, You'll 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.440 deal with the You'll deal with the other part later. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.120 Let's win the game. Let's knock off the undefeated Steelers. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.560 I mean, I just don't think the diehards in the 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.400 game really want their team to lose. They just learn 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.120 how to accept the silver lining of it if they 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.960 do lose. I think there's some I think there's some 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:50.800 truth to that, Like in the you know, if in 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.360 the moment, if if I can't even think of Greg's airline, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.040 I was about to say, Dan Bailey, that's if Greg's 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.960 air line is lining up to kick a walk off 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.879 off and Dallas is down by one. I don't know 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.879 how many people have it within them to be like, 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:09.120 miss this kid, Yeah, yeah, yeah, what if So you're 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.960 saying you want they want Dan Bailey to actually make 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.000 the kids, Well, they want Dan Bailey to miss because 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.280 he plays for the Vikings. I guess No, I was 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.840 they want him to make it my favorite thing about 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.359 this show. So my point was going to be Nick's 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.679 been a fanatic forever. You know, he can tell you 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.000 about the seventies Cowboys in great detail. You're you know 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.600 you and me, well but no, but you're a Texas freak. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.600 And I'm an LSU fanatic. I just love like so. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.240 But we've had this problem since birth, as have most 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.720 people that are listening to this show. And Amber is 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.320 like on year five, like she's still sort of just 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.960 getting her feet wet in this whole terrible arrangement that 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.840 is being a fan. Oh it sucks, and we get 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.560 the word and we get to see her walk through 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.840 this cycle of it, like she's just a baby in 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.159 this thing. We're like, just have no idea what me 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.840 for the next twenty years. It's I mean, it's brutal, man, 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.480 but you know what, at somebody whose team reached the 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.760 mountaintop last year, it is worth it. Oh and when 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.200 the Cowboys finally pull it off, whether it's next year 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.600 or thirty years from now, it's so worthy. It will 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.199 be so worth It is so worth it. You're right. 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:17.160 When Texas won that championship, my wife, my wife jumped 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.920 up and ran around the block. It's late at night, 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.960 and she ran around the block just screaming because of 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.919 the excitement we had about Texas winning national champion. It 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.080 is everything when you finally reached the top. So yeah, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.920 it's it's all worth it. At some point hopefully soon, 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.800 hopefully hopefully well see hopefully while we're alive. Amber, You're right, Yes, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.480 we are going to take our first break when we 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.639 come back. 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I enjoyed listen 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.640 to you guys. Segment on fandom as a developed North 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:21.320 Carolina Tario fan. I am. I am in the boat 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.119 with you, and so I am always about winning and 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.879 I'm never satisfied despite the championships or whatever. So I 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.680 understand it. Hey, well, right now, y'all got our old 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.480 coach and he's doing things up there. He's gonna get 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.720 that program turn around as he did it before he 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.400 got to us. Mac Brown doing some big, big things 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.600 up there in North Carolina right now. Yeah, absolutely, he's 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.639 a great coach. Yeah all right, So let's jump in. 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:47.720 Let's talk a little bit about this Minnesota offense. I 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.439 know usually I'll start the conversation by asking you what 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.520 they do well. I think we all know what they 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.639 do well. Minnesota right now is second in rushing yards 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.600 per temp at five point two yards per temp. Chicago 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:03.160 helth cook to only three point two yard average. What 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.879 did they do along with Indianapolis in Week two? What 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.240 did they do that other teams have not been able 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:13.480 to do when it comes to stopping the run of Minnesota? 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.400 Where those teams are really good against a run. Those 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.040 teams are really sound defenses. They do a pretty good 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.760 job of winning the line of scrimmage. For the Cowboys, 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.679 this would be the biggest test that they've had. This 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.080 would go back to what the Cleveland Browns did because 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.760 they're similar systems and so this will be a test 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:34.159 of the physicality, the effort to discipline, all those things 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.520 that have kind of been murmured about throughout the course 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.040 of the season. Where this is the exam to see 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.600 how far they've made, how much progress they made. The 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:44.919 problem that you have when you're defending the Minnesota Vikings 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.080 is you have a system that is very sound. It 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.359 is a system where the offensive line they move like 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.520 elephants on parade. So they're all in unison. They're working 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.080 together and they are trying to get a push horizontally. 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.480 And then you have a running back in Davin Cook, 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.520 who is one of the best in the business at 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:04.720 being able to be a one cut runner. When he 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.639 sees the crease, he attacks it and he has juice 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.720 and vision and balance and body control and he's just 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.000 a special player. And so it's the perfect marriage between 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.880 player and system. And if you're not on your p's 0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.200 and ques that game, he will run for two hundred 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.360 yards because they will give it to him, they will 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.480 feed him. He is. They are doing everything that Cowboys 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.600 fans talk about doing. Give it to him twenty times. Well, 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.560 if you don't stop him, he's gonna get it twenty 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:35.720 five times. Bucky. We lost Trevor Dicks. We all know that, 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:37.879 and we know that Cheeto is coming back, but we 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.680 still don't know what he's going to look like on 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.720 the field. I'm curious about your assessment between the secondary 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.000 and their passing game and what they can do over 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.680 there with their receivers. Well, the secondary is played better 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.159 of late and the reason they played better is because 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.960 they've made the number one priority is not allow the 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.280 ball to fly over their head, keep the ball in front, 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.080 limit the big plays, rally and ackle and live to 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.800 fight another down. And as simple as that sounds, it 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.479 is the most effective way to keep people from scoring 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.080 points because as the field gets condensed and tighter, now 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:12.879 you are able to use the siline and the end 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.720 zone as extra defenders and it works in your advantage. 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.200 The problem when you face the Minnesota Vikings is this, 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.439 everyone knows that Dalvin Cook is the guy, and you 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.119 have to put eight in the box, maybe nine in 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.480 the box to slow him down. Well, they want to 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.920 throw play action passes, they want to go max protect, 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.840 and they're going to let their two wide receivers, Adam 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.399 Feeling and Justin Jefferson go to work. And what the 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.639 Minnesota Vikings have done is they've invested in wide receivers 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.080 who are craftsmen, who are outstanding route runners, and if 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.600 you give them time, they will put cornerbacks in the blender. 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.600 And that is what we're seeing. Adam Feeling is tied 0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.440 for first with nine touchdowns. Justin Jefferson leaves all rookies 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.879 and receiving yards. He has four one hundred yard days 0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.240 and if you are unable to cover them one on 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:05.000 one from a skill standpoint, they will go bonkers. And 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.760 so the dilemma is how much do I sell out 0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:11.160 to stop Delvin Cook? And can I sell out while 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.199 being good enough to deal with these two artists that 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:18.520 are on the perimeter creating separation and getting wide open. 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.359 It's a challenge and it's a conundrum that Mike Nolan 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.399 has to come in with a plan on how do 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.879 I want to defend these two different options that they 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.800 can go with a bucky three days ago, Kirk Cousins 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.160 did not have a winning record in the NFL as 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.760 a starter, but he did win Monday Night. So now 0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.800 he's forty eight forty seven and two. He's two and 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.199 six against the Cowboys, so he's never really been that 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:44.120 great against Dallas. Is he a good quarterback in your mind? 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.520 Is he average quarterback? I know he you know he 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.840 gets paid well, but how do you assess him? Yeah? 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.960 I think with kirk Cousins, I think the biggest thing 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.240 that clouds him is the compensation doesn't match the production 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.600 in the performance. He got paid what he got paid 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.119 because he was able to parlay the franchise tag and 0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.360 to a halfty pay that. But if you ask me 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.960 what kirk Cousins is, quarterbacks come into categories. They're either 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.800 trucks or their trailers. Their trucks would they carry the 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.800 team or their trailers where the team carries him. He's 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.040 a trailer. The team in the system carries him and 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.320 he has success. He doesn't have the ability on his 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.240 own to put it on his shoulders and make it happen. 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.159 We've seen him falter time after time after time in 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.080 Washington and in Minnesota. When he's had to do it 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:31.000 by himself. He can't get it done. That's it. This system, 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.000 in an environment that they've created right now is perfect 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.800 for him to have success. The last few games, he's 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.600 completed over seventy percent of his passes, six touchdowns, one inception. 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.680 Passer rating is at one twenty three. So if they're 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.880 able to dictate the turns by establishing the running game 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.239 and throw play action passes, kirk Cousins can look like 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.360 a star. But if they're able to control the running 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.040 game and you make him have to throw a drop, 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.560 bad game. Kirk Cousins has shown time and time again, 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.800 he can't do it, Bucky. I hope I'm not putting 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.520 you on the spot too much by asking you to 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.080 go back a month. But a lot of people are 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.440 connecting dots in this game to the Browns game because 0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.560 Kevin Stefanski came from Minnesota runs a similar scheme, and 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.880 it's hard not to remember that the Browns ran for 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.520 three hundred and seven yards against this defense. So I mean, 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.960 if we are I mean we know what the vikings do, 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.520 we know what Dalvin Cook is capable of what. And 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.920 if you remember, the Browns game was the game where 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.400 you know everybody was dogging the effort level, So I 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.760 get that, but is there something else that showed up 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.880 in that game that led to them being so horrendous 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.480 against the run? And if they're gonna fix one thing 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.280 to play better this week, what would it need to be? 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:48.440 Physicality and discipline. Part of the reason why the Cowboys 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.600 played the last time we played Will the last time 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.440 we saw him out because they were absolutely fearful of 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.280 being embarrassed by the physicality of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.960 so we saw them play at a different level when 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.640 it came to the effort energy, The challenge will be 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.800 Everyone has seen the tape of the Cleveland Browns. The 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.440 Minnesota Vikings have seen it. The Minnesota Vikings are going 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.920 to run those same schemes at them, and they're going 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:12.920 to test the Cowboys to see if they have made 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.680 the necessary corrections to slow them down. What has to happen, 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.760 Jalen Smith, Laden vander Eshe they have to be in 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:25.360 the gaps upfront, Neville Gallimore and Antoine Woods and Alden 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.720 Smith and the markets. They have to be able to 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.280 control the line of scrimmage and stay in their gaps. 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.400 If they freelance, if they lose any of their discipline, 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.440 Dalvin Cook is going to gut him and he's going 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.600 to run for a seventy yard touchdown. It is as 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.440 simple as that. This will be the longest and toughest 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.160 test of discipline that we will see from the Cowboys 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.520 in this game, over a sixty minute game. Can they 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.719 do what they're asked to do over and over and 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.520 over again without freelancing? And they've done it of late, 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.720 but they haven't been tested by a team that is 0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:00.960 going to run it and run the same place over 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.480 and over again. Are they up to the challenge? That's 0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.760 really what we see. Because if they're able to do 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.360 it this week, I'm very optimistic that they'll be fine 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.280 the rest of the season against these run heavy teams. 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.800 But if they can't do it against Minnesota, they're gonna 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.560 have a tough time doing it against Baltimore, San Francisco, 0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.680 Philadelphia and some of these other run heavy teams that 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.920 are on the schedule. Yeah, you mentioned that being the 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.560 longest and toughest tests that they're gonna have. As you 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.440 saw it last night and that or that night before last, 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.920 in that game, they were getting nothing, nothing out of 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.840 the running game, but they kept with it. I don't 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.080 know if I've seen a team be that discipline where 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.880 they were like, we're going to run the ball. You 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.080 may stop us, but we're gonna keep running the ball. 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.000 And as you notice there at the end of the game, 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.040 when a team Hicks goes out of the game, they 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.680 started getting a few more creases there and opportunities to 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.320 be able to get some yards out of it. But 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.760 it's gonna be interesting to see how the Cowboys can 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.080 do over a full sixty minute game. But I want 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.400 to take you back earlier. You mentioned you were talking 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.280 to I think it was a question that Amber asked 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.240 and talking about the receivers matching up with the Cowboys secondary. 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.800 My question for you, it's a two part question. One, 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.160 do you think Keeto a Woozier and Anthony Brown can 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.400 cover these receivers one on one if the Cowboys out 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.440 to bring that safety down into the box. But in 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.920 addition to that, if you were Mike Nolan, what would 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.200 be your strategy. Would you bring that extra guy down 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.560 in the box and risk on the outside letting those 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.040 guys get free, or would you say, hey, we gotta 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.320 stay true to what we do, which is you know, 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.240 rally and tackle, and that may mean that we can't 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.040 bring that extra guy down. We absolutely have to make 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.520 stopping to run the priority. It has to be number one. 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.680 Dalvin Cook is the guy. It has to be all 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.760 hands on deck to slow down Dalvin Cook. Because the 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.560 one thing that we know if they run the ball, 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.240 they were running for three hundred yards and they will 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.120 absolutely dominate the game. You have to take your chances in. 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.400 You almost have to go to Anthony Brown and Wuzia 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.400 and say, hey, you gotta put your big board pads 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.320 on this week. We cannot help you. We can't put 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.360 people over the top. You have to hold up in 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.520 your matchup and you just have to see if they 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.239 can do it. Now, there will be some down, some 0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.360 advantageous downs where if you get third and long year, 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.880 but to dictate terms, where maybe you can double up 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.160 a roll coverage. But for the most part, those guys 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.440 in a quarter system, you're going to have to hold 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.240 up and win your individual battle against Justin Jefferson and 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.920 Adam Feeland. That is the only way that they're going 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.600 to be able to defend the running game. And so 0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.600 it's a challenge. But I think of the lesser evils, 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.719 the passing game is the lesser evil because the one 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.040 thing about that I can talk about Justin Jefferson and 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.240 Adam Feeling getting open, but it is Kirk Cousin going 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.560 to be on his game, and so you just don't 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.120 know if he's gonna be on his game. So I'm 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.320 gonna roll the dice and say, Kirk Cousins, if you 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.440 have a three hundred yard day, we'll tip our head 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.040 and we'll go on. But we cannot allow Dalvin Cook 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:39.720 to have one hundred and fifty yards on the ground 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:45.000 because that is an absolute recipe for disaster Bucky. My 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.560 next question isn't about the Vikings, but about the Cowboys 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.880 and this bye week. I know that the bite week 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.960 was very necessary because of injuries and all that, But 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.480 from your own experience, I mean, do you when you 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.640 talk about momentum and seeing the fact that the Cowboys 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.760 against the Steelers were able to start creating some good 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:05.800 things that we haven't seen all throughout the season, do 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.680 you do you feel that maybe having a week off 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.200 effects that kind of momentum or do you just don't 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.200 think that has anything to do with what they can 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.640 do this upcoming week? Well, I mean, I think you 0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.080 go into the bye week feeling positive and optimistic. You 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.480 lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but defensively if you started 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.480 to stack together two positive games so now, but the 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.960 bye week has afforded you as an opportunity to clean 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.640 up all the other stuff and to continue to get better. Now, 0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.960 the lockdown in the COVID situation prevented them from fully 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:34.600 getting on the field and doing what they want to 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.440 do in terms of continuing to progress, But I think 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.560 you continue to rep what you repped, you continue to 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:43.040 build upon what you've displayed the last couple of weeks, 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.399 you try and make sure that Randy Gregory and Neville 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.640 Gallimore and some of the other young players that are 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.719 planing have a complete and clear understanding of what they're 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.720 being asked to do. And you just continue to hone 0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.239 into the scheme and make sure everyone understands exactly what's expected. 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.800 And then I think for Mike Nolan and also for 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:04.720 Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore, it's the self scout because 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.000 as much as we talk about the defense, we got 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.240 to talk about complimentary football and make sure that everyone 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.720 is on the same page. So the bye week should 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.120 be an opportunity for everyone to have a clear picture 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.960 of this is who we are, this is how we 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.440 have to play going forward. Now, let's make sure we 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.880 put our players in the best position to make plays 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.719 playing the style that we have to play. Bucky in 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:31.440 your five Bucks column today, he said that Andy Dalton 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.400 doesn't have to be a superhero, but the guys around 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.920 him certainly certainly do. And you mentioned a lot of 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.799 guys on defense there. Can you talk about how what 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.399 you've seen out of DeMarcus Lawrence here lately. I mean, 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.520 I know you mentioned him a minute ago, but it 0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.759 seems like he is a different player than what we 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.800 saw earlier in the season. Yeah. Now, without being privy 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.800 too like the injuries and stuff like that, he certainly 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.800 looks like the Marcus Lawrence of old. And in the column, 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.280 what I said is stars have to be stars because 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.400 right now, as we were saying as players, this is 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.719 the dash for the cash. They have seen that. The 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.040 Cowboys look up and they're one game away from being 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.600 right back in the mix in the division. They saw 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.880 Philadelphia lose, they're sitting there and so and so the 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.560 way that it has to happen is your stars have 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.000 to take their game up a notch. You cannot depend 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.600 on the role players to elevate this team in the 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.160 playoff contention. So on defense, that's to Marcus Lawrence, that's 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:29.360 Alden Smith, that's Jayless Smith, that's Lvee. Those guys have 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.960 to play like the blue chip players that we thought 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.399 they were coming into the year. And so, if you're 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.480 Mike Nolan, if you're Mike mccarthur, you have to have 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.600 very open and honest and frank discussions about a The 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.279 time is now we got to pick up our play 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.440 and we will be led by the stars. The stars 0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.440 will ultimately determine whether the Cowboys go to the playoffs 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:52.200 or not. I don't want to act like Justin Jefferson 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.840 in some crazy sleeper rookie because he was the twenty 0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.800 second overall pick in the draft. It's obviously a good player, 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.400 but he was the fifth receive her taken. I guess 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.839 I'm mainly asking this to take a shot at Philadelphia 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:09.120 basically because they drafted Jalen Rager over him. Is it 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.160 too soon to say that you know that this was 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.160 a drastic draft mistake by several teams, that this guy 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.400 I mean to be the fifth receiver taken even in 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:22.320 such a top heavy class. Or is Justin Jefferson's success 0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.919 more about the talent around him than him being as 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.920 transcendent as he has looked. I guess, well, I tell 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.040 you this because of your LSU touch. Obviously I might 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.520 be a phone calls, No I got. I got texting 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.719 phone calls from Jerry Sullivan, who had spent time at 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.479 LSU two seasons ago working with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.439 And he texts me because he saw me put Justin 0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.600 Jefferson not at the top of the board, and he said, 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.480 I'm telling you right now, this guy will be the 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.120 best player in the class. He is outstanding, he's a dog. 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.879 He's a better player than Jamar Chase will be when 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.800 he enters the league. And he said that he has everything. 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.680 And so I kind of text back and was like, 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.200 I hear you, Like he's nice. I like the route running, 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.200 but I don't know, like these other guys are really good. 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.719 And then Lauren behold you look at the tape and 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.359 you're like, darn it, Like I underestimated how good he is. 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.759 And I think the common theme when it comes to 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.120 these receivers that have immediate success in the league, all 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.960 of the guys are artists when it comes to route running. 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.480 So much of what we get caught up in the 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.560 free draft run is hey, how fast are they can 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.279 they do these things? And really it's the skill. And 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.800 when I look at Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson is an artist. 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.760 He's Picasso. He is painting masterpieces out there, creating separation 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.799 and getting open. And because of that, he can get 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.759 open against guys who are high end corners. And so 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.799 his success is not a product of the system. It's 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.680 a product of him being a very talented and skilled 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.160 route runner, and the Minnesota Vikings put him in a 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.880 position where he's able to use his tools. All right, 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.799 Bucky Man, we appreciate you joining us. I know we 0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:57.759 ran a little bit long today. We'll appreciate you giving 0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.560 us some good insight into this Minnesota Vikings offense. Tomorrow 0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.080 we'll have you back. We'll talk about the Vikings defense. 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:04.799 We're gonna go and take our final break and we 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.319 come back. We'll have a couple of questions before we 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.919 wrap up the show. 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Yeah, and when you freeze, like 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.600 we just get these weird looks on your face and 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.080 it's just stuck there and I have to look out 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.480 my face anyway. For the most part, Oh, I wish 0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:57.840 people could go back and watch the show from yesterday 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.399 and just see the faces Dave was making as Nick 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.440 was talking towards the end of the show. Is pretty funny. 0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.600 I liked I try to communicate with the audience wordlessly 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.560 sometimes like if something crazy happening, I just kind of 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.520 like Jim from the Office, I just like to stare 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.279 at my webcam like it's the reason why if you 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.040 don't watch this show, you probably should rather than just 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.879 listen in. And before we end the show today, let's 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:23.959 go and get one fan question, what do we have? Well, 0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:28.040 I got a lot of people really interested in Bradley 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.319 and I and Reggie Robinson, so I got a lot 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.719 of questions of them, wanting to know if do you 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.000 guys expect to see more of them in this second 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:42.680 half of the season. HM. That has been That's been 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.279 a thing all season, and it's one of those it's 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.720 a situation where you know, week one, Week two, week three, 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.440 people are like where a Reggie and a nine and 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.040 it's like, well, they're rookies and there's much better players 0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.319 in front of them, Like chill out. But now you 0:42:55.320 --> 0:43:00.000 know the record's bad. Season's not over, but it's slipping away. 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.320 And so now I'm with you where I'm like, Okay, 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.080 what do you have to lose by getting these guys 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.360 more snaps? Like Bradley and I hasn't had He's I 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.760 don't he definitely hasn't had more than five defensive snaps 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.600 all year, and Reggie hasn't been active yet. And you know, 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.480 I don't know if we'll see that this week, but 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.640 if the playoffs get further and further out of reach, 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.279 then I would absolutely hope that those guys get thrown 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.960 into the action because at that point, what do you 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:28.120 have to lose? So, while the division is still technically 0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.959 up for grabs, I don't know, but hopefully, at least 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.000 in December, hopefully we'll see some more of them. Yeah, 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.480 you know, the interesting thing is actually shaking his head 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.279 with a big no no. Well, they practice, I mean, 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.040 and so the Cowboys the see of them in practice, 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.520 they know Reggie Robinson what he can do and probably 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.520 what he can't do. And so, like I said yesterday, 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.759 if they're pulling out Stephen Parker and guys like that 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.760 to play, I think Reggie Robinson has been an option. 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.960 It just hasn't been a good one. But I agree 0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.040 with what Dave said. I mean, Jerry said that on 0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.040 the radio the other day. I want to play young guys. 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.040 I mean, he didn't say it like this, but I'm 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.359 just gonna paraphrase. He said, you want to play young 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.560 guys if they don't suck, I mean, if they're gonna suck, 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.120 and that's the whole thing up, you don't want to 0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.040 play him. I mean, it's pretty much what he said. 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.839 I mean, it was like it's very valuable for them 0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:15.880 to play, but they better not bring the you know, 0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.040 bring the whole thing down. So right now, while it's 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.560 you know, they're fighting for it, I think I think 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.720 it's you know, I don't see why Ridge Robinson couldn't 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.200 play some special teams. But I guess I don't really 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.960 know who you would take off the field right now, 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:33.440 So you know, I bet Pep'll see them at some point. Though. Yeah, 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.080 my thought was, and again I may have not really 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.400 understood the full scope of it, but when he came in, 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.160 when the Cowboys drafted him, my thought was, he's going 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:42.520 to be a guy that they're gonna have to to develop 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.560 a little bit and and so he wasn't gonna be 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.880 a guy that was gonna be immediately a guy they 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.080 would just throw out there. So this doesn't surprise me, 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.319 I will say. My counter to that is the other 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.759 thing was everybody raved about his special teams a bit 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.280 right now, Like he blocked three or four kicks in college. 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.160 He can do this, that and the other. So it's 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.360 definitely not surprised to me that he's not getting snaps 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.440 on the secondary. The fact that he hasn't been in 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.120 uniform yet this season as a fourth round pick, it's 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.319 a little surprising. And he had a rough training camp, 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.040 there's no way around that. But again I'm not asking 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.680 him to start at safety. I just at this point 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.960 I would have guessed that you'd see him on special 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.400 teams or at least getting a jersey. Yeah, And to 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.719 be honest with I don't think like like like Nick said, 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.759 I don't know that there are guys right now on 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:25.640 special teams. You're like, you gotta get that guy out 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.359 there and make room for Reggie Robinson, especially if he's 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.840 not giving you anything as as a cornerback. So again, 0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.560 this doesn't shock me just yet. Now, if you get 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.960 into next season, he's still not active. Now, we got 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.400 some problems. But for me, a guy like that that 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.239 didn't have an off season, didn't have training camp, or 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.120 didn't have a normal training camp, I'm not as shocked 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.040 by that, and it seems like it's it's kind of 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.480 par for the course. It does. I know, we gotta go, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.920 But it reminds me of Donovan Wilson a little bit, 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.440 and it's it's different because Reggie didn't have a preseason, 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.480 but Donovan Wilson looked amazing in the preseason, didn't really 0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.399 get a ton of time. The fans were pissed off 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.560 about it, and we were saying the same thing, like, well, 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.440 the coaches seem more than we do and they don't 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.480 think he's ready. And to be fair, he had another 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.799 offseason to progress and do this, that and the other. 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:12.080 But he's looked pretty good once he's gotten the opportunity. 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:16.000 So maybe you should give guys a chance a little 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.759 bit more often. We'll see, we'll see. I'm sure I 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.000 would guess at down the stretch here he might get 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.359 some opportunities. But by no means am I writing him off. 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:25.879 I think right now it's just one of those things 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.000 where he's developing and they're developing, and we'll see what 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.480 he turns out to be next year and years after that. 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.520 All right, appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back tomorrow. 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.160 We're gonna get into this Vikings defense against the Cowboys. 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.040 Often still then for Nick even Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. 0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:39.960 I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:45.759 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.440 production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:50.160 Football Club.