1 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: So I'm talking to you. It's the middle of spring 2 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: practice right now, the third weekend, fourth weekend in March. 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: But the last time most of America saw you is 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the ending of the National Championship game. 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: So, very very briefly, one word. 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Answer, if you want to describe life in the immediate 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: aftermath of that and realistically as a human, how long 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: does it take before you say, all right, twenty twenty 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: six season. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Let's go one word between that time and now, relentless 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: every part of every process. And that's a quick turn 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: the page. I mean, because you're already behind on every 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: aspect of recruiting, right, You're going to have to start 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: your offseason program a little bit later. That's already mapped 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: out and planned out, but it still requires a lot 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: of right logistical adjustments. So it just hasn't stopped, and 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: in a good way, you know, But you do. You 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: do find time to assess every game you play, even 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: that one, especially being the last game, and even though 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: your team part of it graduates and moves on and 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: some of your coaches move on, you do and you 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: attack that like you attack anything else and find ways 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: to get better. 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: What's the difference in knowing all right, we don't have 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: another game after this. 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: You're still going to go back. 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: You're going to break down film pretty meticulously, but you're 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: not preparing You're not preparing that team for anything more. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: So you're basically learning about yourself. You're learning about players 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: who are going to come back. But what's the difference 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: in that process versus a normal game wek process? 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: You know, just more time because however someone came at you, 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: anything that someone did successfully against you, you're going to 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: it's going to show up again until you fix it. 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: So and then things that you did successfully are going 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: to be attacked as well. So there's not much difference. 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: There's just a lot of time where self Scott now 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: becomes part of that game as well. So it's a 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: pretty meticulous process that lasts about three weeks in terms 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: of self assessment, self evaluation as I really source teams 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: in our players. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: And then that backs you up. So that's the third 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: week of January. In some cases, your quote unquote off 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: season is starting over a month after other people's has started, 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: and then you're going to start springball usually like somewhere 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: in March. From your seat, like, how does that affect 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: the way you run an organization. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different. You know, we did a lot of 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: research as it relates to teams that I've had really 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: long run, successful run and not just even in college 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: right now, both I would say, the NBA, the NFL, 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: the NHL, I mean everybody. You know, We've been able 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: to take a deep dive into teams that I've had 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: long runs and what they did the following year and 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: how it related to their offseason. And so we just 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: picked it apart and put it together as we saw 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: fit for our guys. And so the guys that had 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: you know, a certain amount of plays or over a 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: certain amount of plays, I had an extra couple of 60 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: weeks of just regeneration. I'm talking about the hyper bearer 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: chambers right, the massage, therapy, mobility work, active conditioning, but 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: getting their bodies right. And the guys that didn't play 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: as much or just got here, they went right into 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: an eight week off season program. So and we've seen that. 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: You know, as we start spring ball, we looked like 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: we're in pretty good shape physically and there's been no 67 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: physical like you know, banged up hangover. It feels like 68 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: our guys in are a good place and are ready 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: to attack it. 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: I know, one of the things that had just driven 71 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you crazy to an extent the last couple of years 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: was no problem starting fast as a team, But then 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: there was this point a couple of times in the 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: season where you feel, I don't know, if it was 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: a little off. I'd watch you and man, that looks 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: like what it looked like in week one or week two. 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: And last year there was this point. I was at 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: the game. I was at the SMU game and it 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: doesn't go your way, and you're wondering, is that about 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: to happen again? Is that in the process that happened again? 81 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: And then you end up playing boom boom, boom boom, 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: your best ball four weeks in a row, culminating with 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: that pit game to end the year. You go into 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you do what you did against Ohio State. 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on the outside looking in, wondering what changed? 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: What's the difference? 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: So what changed? Why are you able to do that? 88 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Last year? Oh? I mean, I think that team meeting 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: after the SMU game really kind of changed things. And 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: I'll say this, we've you know, we don't. There's nothing 91 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: hocus pocus about our operation. I think it's very well documented. 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: We work our butts off we go and we liked 93 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: to take a lot of pride in that, and we 94 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: just weren't playing like we play. We were playing hard, 95 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: our effort, our care factor, everything was through the roof, 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: but we weren't. It didn't look like us. And so 97 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: you know, when we met and talked about those specific things, 98 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: all we did was take those first five weeks and 99 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: clipped out us playing Miami football. Physical, violent, tough, relentless 100 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 2: finishing plays. Just cut the lights and let it roll. 101 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: And in dead silence, we watched ten minutes of Miami 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: playing Miami football. And by the time the lights cut 103 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: back on, I mean those everybody's eyes were this big. 104 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: Everybody's even feel the intensity in the room. It's like, 105 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: it's not remembering who we are, it's realizing who the 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: heck we are and going out and making sure that 107 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: on the daily that that showed up in practice, every 108 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: ounce of the standard. And so that led to a 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: just a series of high level, physical, relentless play, particularly 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage, but also the dog mentality 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: of our skill guys, their physicality. That was all that 112 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: stuff was contagious, and I think that combination led to 113 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: ourselves going on running. 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: What's it like now watching the guys either who are 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: still here on the roster or who you brought in 116 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: recruiting in Portal, Now that they're watching guys like Reuben 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Bain walk out the door or a Key Mesable walk 118 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: out the door. 119 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't like that a few years ago. 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: You didn't have products of an environment that you hope 121 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: to create as finished products. But now they're watching the 122 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: finished product walk out to do it. So then everyone 123 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: wants to talk about, Okay, well you got to replace 124 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: this production, replace this leadership. Well, those players are the 125 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: ones who have to do it. It's spring, so it's 126 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of early in that process. How much have you 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: seen people. 128 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Start to grab that rope? Oh? I think it was 129 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: happening throughout the year. They were trying to grab the 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: rope throughout the year. But guys like a Mesidor and 131 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Ruben Bin they don't give any rope to grab. They're 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: going to stay in the game. And Sid's so different, 133 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: and I'll say wise because when we recruited those guys, 134 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: those guys would wait for us outside the stadium right 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: after just us getting blasted twenty twenty two. Right, that's 136 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: when you have to just turn over the entire thing. 137 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: And we were awful, and those guys just hung in 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: their week after week. They were committed. They were getting blasted. 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: They gative recruited by other schools out Miami stinks, they're 140 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: not going to be there, all that kind of stuff, 141 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: and a lot they was just say, let's go, man, 142 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: our time is coming. And those guys when they had 143 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: this group of guys during the latter part of the 144 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: Bowl season this past year, we had him for two 145 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: weeks practicing with those guys. Those guys set the standard 146 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: every single the invaluable time with those guys, and so 147 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: they they understand, you know, not fully, but they saw 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: like they saw that on the daily and they saw 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: the time they spent up here watching film. They saw 150 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: that their interactions with their teammates were those of guys 151 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: that were relentless about being champions. So it was very effective. 152 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: That was in selfless contagious. So it's they they've seen 153 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: the standard, we're going to push him and we're just 154 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: going to keep our mouths shutting the work to achieve 155 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: that standard. During springball and springball runner is a very 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: important you know, we will. 157 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: You've been around as a player and his coach, like 158 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of legendary teams, but you've also you've also 159 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: gotten to experience decades later, looking back on relationships impact 160 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: you had both individually and collect actively. Those guys they 161 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: don't have that yet. They were a part of something 162 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: that was very impactful, but they don't have like the 163 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: decades of perspective to look back on it. But from 164 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: your perspective, you kind of know. We came in here, 165 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: we had to eat it for a little while. We 166 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: brought in our waves of guys, we implemented our style 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: are everything, and that it's turned around and the first 168 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: wave of players responsible for that are leaving now. How 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: satisfying is it to know we're in the trenches right now. 170 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: But one day, twenty years from now, I'll sit down 171 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: with that kid. He'll probably be an NFL Hall of 172 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: Famer by that point he's retired from the NFL, and 173 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: we'll be able to look back and say, you remember 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: early twenty twenties back at Miami, I remember what it 175 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: was like, remember what it became. Because you've been part 176 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: of those kind of conversations. 177 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: Before Yeah, it's awesome to think about what is to come. 178 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: And we did build this team to be sustainable and 179 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: to improve as the years go on, you know, and 180 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: we don't stacked behind each other. We actually like appropriately, 181 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: like select and place guys in situations and that position 182 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: where they could continually grow and develop. And we feel 183 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: that we're postured to do that. Okay, now, easier said 184 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: than done. Like you mentioned, these guys were hard and 185 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: callous guys that went through five and seven, seven and 186 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: six to pop ten wins and enough to do what 187 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: we did last year. So that part right there, there's 188 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: nothing that can replace that. There's something that could mimic 189 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: that exactly. But the way we work has to be 190 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: that and there's no better way to get the best 191 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: out of someone than to provide them with the most 192 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: elite competition on a daily basis and demand their very best. 193 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: So that's a mood that we're in now, which is 194 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: a little bit different, you know, like when when JJ 195 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,479 Speaker 2: Dunnagin walked into practice, when Jackson can't well walked into practice. 196 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: They were practicing with us at the Cotton Bowl. Yet, Okay, 197 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: the guys that were playing in that game, and as 198 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Cooper you know, Matt McCoy wesley was saying, all right, 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: they were getting our teeth kicked in and twenty two 200 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: so different. But they want to practice yesterday and all 201 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: those guys that were at Pro Day, every single one 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: was out there coaching their butts off, pushing and grinding 203 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: on guys because it means that much to them. So 204 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: that's the part that we really value that besides their success. 205 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: Then change the profile of the program. They had an 206 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: unbelievable experience, like they're canes for life. And that's when 207 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: the real magic happens, right because that thing grows, that 208 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: thing festers in a manner where it becomes just very powerful, 209 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: and the momentum is something that you just can't stop. 210 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: You guys always talk about the style of practice, the 211 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: attitude of a practice around here. People who have been 212 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: around it, they always walk away talking about it. And 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: yet there's this I don't know if it's a fear 214 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: or a reluctance. A lot of people don't want to 215 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: lean into that, maybe not even because they're opposed to 216 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: it and ideologically, but because they're terrified of what it'll 217 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: do to their depth if they try and practice like that. 218 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: You guys do it, and it's kind of a knock 219 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: on wood situation to a certain extent. You want to 220 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: be like blessed and fortunate in the injury department, but 221 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: like you weren't terribly banged up. I would argue you 222 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: played your best football at the end of the year 223 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: last year. That doesn't compute with most people. Most people 224 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: would think like, Okay, well you practice that way and 225 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: you're going to peak early and you're going to fade late. 226 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: So how do you how do you do one but 227 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: then also excel at the right time in the on 228 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: field come Saturday department. 229 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, you got to trust your people, and it starts 230 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: with a great offseason because you have to be built 231 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: to be able to train in that manner. And once 232 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: you train that manner, you can train to practice in 233 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: that manner. And we're really physical and whatnot, but we're 234 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: not reckless. Yeah, you know, we never there's a line 235 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: there and we come up to it as to how 236 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: it benefits the team, but we don't go beyond that 237 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: line because it's easy to be tough for somebody else's body. 238 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: But I just think that on this side, there's no focus. 239 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: And when social media in the off season, our focus 240 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: is to kick ass out there on Green Tree practice field, 241 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: knowing that the only way to cut it loose, I'm 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: talking about legitimately cut it loose on game day is 243 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: to earn it out there. And it is January and February, March, April, May, June, July, 244 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: it's all of it, and you can't skip those steps. 245 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: We have real legitimate buying into that. And then as 246 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: the season goes on and as your team is progressing, 247 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: you do you have to shave certain parts, but you 248 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: don't compromise the physicality part. You know, you may have 249 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: to pull one guy here and there every now and then, 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: but overall, if you watch our tape, Ruben a Keem, 251 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: they're seeking out Markel Bell, They're seeking out Francis and 252 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: as Cooper. They're trying to find each other and go 253 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: against each other. They know it's the only way to 254 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: be at their best on Saturdays, and that's what we 255 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: were striving for and we feel like we're achieving that. 256 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: And now that's got to permeate the locker room for 257 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: the new guys, and they got a good taste of it, 258 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: you know. Jackson Campwell's first couple reps were against a 259 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: key Missador and Ruben Bain, and you know it's I'm 260 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: sure he'll never forget those reps, all right, but I'm 261 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: sure it's also put him on edge so he understands 262 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: what it really looks like at the highest level. 263 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: I know every time I talk to you, I always 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: love talking about when you have a senior in high school, 265 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: junior in high school, you're recruiting them. They've got all 266 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: the physical attributes you could ever want. You love their 267 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: character makeup, but you really want to have them watch 268 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: you practice so that they know I can either be 269 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: about that or I can't be about that. And I'm 270 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: so I'm always interested in this. I probably ask you 271 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: this a million times, but I always love talking about it. 272 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: So let's say I am being recruited by you. I 273 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: check all the physical boxes, you love, my character makeup, 274 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: not really a trouble guy off the field, and I 275 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: watch you practice and I tell you all the right things, 276 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: like I lean into that. 277 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: But then you get me on campus. 278 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm an early and you find initially he's he's kind 279 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: of there, right, but he's not all the way in. 280 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: What is it like? 281 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: And how often do you find that to be the 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: case where you still got to drag a kid a 283 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: little bit further into the deep end and make him see, oh, 284 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: he really can swim. 285 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: I know he can swim. He's got to figure out 286 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: he can swim. Sure. Well. I mean, we've had a 287 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: really high hit rate on high school players. And it's 288 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: hard job to teach. You know, you're just not born tough. 289 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: And you can't teach that in the classroom either. They 290 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: got to experience it and you've got to like introduce 291 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: it to him at levels where they can handle and 292 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: progress and develop from. Because I mean we do when 293 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: we practice and when we train, we go, we go 294 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: right to the edge, right to the edge. It's the 295 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: best way to get the most out of your guys. 296 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: And then the goal is to achieve a breakthrough as 297 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: opposed to a breakdown. That's where the eyes, the consistent communication, 298 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: the hands on approach. Really it goes along way. Like here, 299 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: it's about being a vocational teacher, man, you know, I mean, 300 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: you've seen us like are what's our We don't have 301 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: a monster facility. We don't, we don't. We don't sell that. 302 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: There's now the Bermuda grass outside the blue skies, the 303 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: weather uncomparable, right, but we're now building those kind of facilities. 304 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: Construction in the background. It's for room, just for so 305 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: we could handle your two hundred pound dumbolls, all that 306 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: stuff you use. But we're now catching up in that sense, 307 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: which is going to be awesome. But the cell here 308 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: is still going to be the way we practice. And 309 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: they got to come out and they got to watch 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: it because it's unfiltered. It's incredibly instructional and developmental. It's 311 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: also the right kind of demanding, you know. Yeah, and 312 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: I that draws the right guys. And again it sounds good. 313 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: It feels good when not everybody when they get here 314 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: could jump right into it and hey, this is awesome. 315 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: Guys like Reuben they ate it up, Francis, they ate 316 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: it up. But they had their days, you know they did, 317 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: and it's our job to teach them. We believe in that. 318 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: What about plugging a coach into that. 319 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about hiring process in 320 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: the second, but I mean, I've gone through your filtration 321 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: process of how you hire, all right, Well, then you're 322 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: plugging me and I got to meet that every day. 323 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: I got to contribute to that. I got to be 324 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: a part of that every day. By the time you 325 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: figure out I'm the guy for the job, is that 326 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: almost an afterthought? Like you, I would have never gotten 327 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: to the final rounds if I probably didn't check that box. 328 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh man, you know what I was When I was 329 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: a tight ends coach here, I had an opportunity to 330 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: interview with the Jets. Kevin Mangini was the head coach 331 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: at the time. Actually, I saw a Schottenheim route the 332 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: other day Coach Schottenheimer was the head coach of the 333 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys because he was there at the time, and it 334 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: was that twelve hour interview process that was grueling and 335 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: a grind. But I left there going this is awesome. 336 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: I would love to be able to conduct a process 337 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: like this if I was ever a head coach. So yeah, 338 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: we get after in the right kind of way. But 339 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: you know what, it's everybody grows from it. I mean 340 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: I learned a lot. The person were interviewing learns a lot, 341 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: and if it works out, there's a pretty good chance 342 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: they're going to be able to adapt pretty well. Because aptitude, 343 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: right IQ, all that stuff, adaptability, it has to be high. 344 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: It has to be In football in general, we demand 345 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: that of our coaches because they have to set the 346 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: tone every day. I don't honestly, I don't worry as 347 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: much about players. I feel like we were recruiting the 348 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: right kind of mindset. I'm always investing just as much 349 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: in the staff as we do the players, because we 350 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: do feel that at the end of the day, they 351 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: set the tone on the daily, you know, and they 352 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: help groom and develop leaders. You want to develop the 353 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: right kind of leaders. 354 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: I remember a year ago, you would just hire Corey Heatherman, right, 355 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: he was about to go through his first year. We 356 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: all know how that turned out. But I remember you said, 357 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to do the comparison thing, but he 358 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: may remind people a lot of when Greg Ciano got 359 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: here in the late nineties. I believe whenever that was 360 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: it was all right. So now you've got a whole 361 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: year of production under your belt. I mean, how would 362 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: you describe impact he had on this organization? Yeah, almost 363 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: almost identical. You know. 364 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: Coacho took over a defense here and launched into the 365 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: top five, you know, And I think that was over 366 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: a two year process, and Corey was able to come 367 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: in and again, players also make a difference, but it 368 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: can't be understated. He's been incredibly impactful, not only as 369 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: on the field, but also off the field. His ability 370 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: to just generate belief, toughness, swarm into the football technique 371 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: fundamentals increasing everybody's football IQ. I mean, it's it's awesome 372 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: at night, like his room is flooded with guys, you know. 373 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 2: And I thought it was. I remember seeing him and going, man, 374 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: this guy looks like a Nordic Viking, something out of 375 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: a you know, an old school movie. Let's get down 376 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 2: of South Florida. Because a guy like that, who's such 377 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: a high level, elite teacher, are our players will just 378 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: they'll sprint to that, because that's what these guys want. 379 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: These guys are, they're they're also human beings, great, just 380 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: super gentlemen off the field. They are hungry dogs when 381 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: it comes to ball, and that's what we recruit, you know. 382 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 2: And so I thought the match was perfect. Corey has 383 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: been nothing short of awesome. 384 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: And in Shannon Dawson has been here a few years now, 385 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: could be a head coach at any minute, but he's 386 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: still here. He's sexually sitting right over our shoulders right now. 387 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: I thought the thing that stood out the most last 388 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: year was that Carson Beck was a radically different person 389 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: than the guy that he was replacing, Cam mood. But 390 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people look on a piece of paper 391 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: and like a quarterback is just stats. Well, quarterbacks the 392 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: person who puts up stats. But you know he was 393 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: able to run an offense with Cam Moore, then you 394 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: run an offense with Carson Beck looks totally different. And 395 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: now Darien Mensa comes in. I'll ask you about him 396 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: in a second. How much value is there in your 397 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: system for lack of a better word, being malleable to 398 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: the talent that are going to be placed in that 399 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: system instead of being a rigid well to your point, 400 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: Shan Dawson should be a head coach right now. We 401 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: are beyond fortunate to have him because he's been awesome 402 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: for three years. Not many teams in the country have 403 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: had a top twenty five offense for three consecutive years. 404 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: He's made it work every which way possible, and you know, 405 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: on the ground, through the air, you know, adjusting to 406 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: the screen game, adjusting to open sets, condensed sets, He's 407 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: done it all and you know, year to year it's 408 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: his ability to adapt is I think what really stands 409 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: out in the processes. You mentioned three different quarterbacks, Well, 410 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: it's also been three different sets of receivers. A consistent 411 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: o line now a different one, but different parts in 412 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: there as well. Some guys were good to counter, some 413 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: were good at wide zone, some were good at duo. Right, 414 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: a couple different coaches coming in as well. That those 415 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: are like his lieutenants. 416 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: Right, So putting all that stuff together and having that 417 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: type of success requires a ton of organization, belief in 418 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: the players, and flat out knowledge and IQ to put 419 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: it all again there and call it a certain way 420 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: they call it parts of talent. Got to be able 421 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: to see the field. So he embodies all that stuff. 422 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: He's another elite human being. So we're lucky as can 423 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: be in terms of our coordinators. But what can I say? 424 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: Both those guys have been difference makers for us. 425 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: Darien Mensa coming in here at quarterback. People are aware 426 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: of him, but I don't know that. America was just 427 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: locked in on two lane and duke games. They'll be 428 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: locked in on Miami games, so eventually they'll see him. 429 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: But through spring and through your interactions with him so far, 430 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: through vetting him and the portal, like, how do you 431 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: describe him as a player. 432 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, by the time that we finished playing 433 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: and then the portal you know, was still open opens 434 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: up by the time we got a chance to meet him. 435 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: It was very quick, but very quickly got to realize, Man, 436 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: this guy's he's special. Saw tape and there's always crossover tape. 437 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: So you watch him play and you're like, man, that 438 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: guy's he's special. Okay. And the supporting cast here has 439 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 2: been such a huge bonus for cam or for Carson Beck, 440 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: and now we feel we're supplementing our roster and Aaron 441 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: Mensa with a really high caliber talent. Wise, we haven't 442 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: put it together, we haven't done anything yet, and we 443 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: just got to shut our mouths and go to work. 444 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: And I want to be upfront about saying that, but 445 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: we feel that he's a really special player because he 446 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: really understands ball, incredible pocket presence, he's deadly accurate, he's 447 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: incredibly smart, right, I mean he could really he runs it, 448 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: you know, and he understands protections and he dives into 449 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: it on a daily basi as well like a pro. 450 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: So quickly got the attention of our players. And if 451 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: you get a chance to watch this, you'll see how 452 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: much trust and how much belief he's already built in 453 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: the guys around him. 454 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: For you personally, after you come out of a football 455 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: season as a coach or just as a man, what 456 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: point is there where you do your own like deep 457 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: dive or a self reflection or in mid November you realized, 458 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: I want to study this thing after the season is 459 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: what point of the year does that happen? What are 460 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: some things that come to mind, maybe that have been 461 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: fundamental changes or maybe something new, maybe a project, or 462 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: maybe a thing you've taken a. 463 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: Deeper dive into recently. Well, I mean it's it's not stop. 464 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: It happens throughout the course of the year. You're always 465 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: noting it up, and you're always taking many dives throughout 466 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: the course of the season. When you get into the 467 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: off season, it's hard to find time to go and 468 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: actually do site visits, though we do find time to 469 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: do that. But every aspect of the game and on 470 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: every single year and anything that really bitch you, you 471 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's endless. I mean, it's 472 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: it's every aspect and it's a very non ego approach 473 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: to it. And I'm talking about the entire staff not 474 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: just myself. We sit in there, it's like, man, these 475 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: parts were good, these parts were okay, these parts, man, 476 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: it's not good enough, you know. And probably that's the 477 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: best part about our staff. They're very humble. They want 478 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: to win. And so I would say, it's it's NonStop. 479 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: This shall go all the way through the summer, and 480 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: that's when you're probably for me. In the month of May, 481 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm able to go see people or have people come 482 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: in that I could really dive deeper into, you know, 483 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: certain aspects of the game. So but it doesn't stop. 484 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you kind of you know, I'll say this 485 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: on there, I'll get in trouble. You kind of plan 486 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: your vacations around places you can visit, you know what 487 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: I mean, Hey, let's go to the Philly Why I'm 488 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: just gonna stop by seeing my friends with the Eagles, 489 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: and then we'll go to do something really nice. You know, 490 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: come on now, it's it's one of those things. But 491 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: the life of a football coach and in an awesome way, 492 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: there'll never be a complaint here. You get you have 493 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: those opportunities and you take full advantage of them. Uh. 494 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: If I were to be around you, let's say fly 495 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: on the wall an entire month, so I get to 496 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: see like the full spectrum of your existence as a 497 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: head coach, your interactions with players, staffers, assistant coaches. What 498 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: are the common traits that just I view up the 499 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: wall the quickest that driving up the wall and in 500 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: a really bad. 501 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh man, I woof. I I can be around people 502 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: that don't love to work hard, that drive me insane, 503 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: or lack of care factor intensity, you know, I mean, 504 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: this is this is the best job in the world, 505 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: and if you don't have a passion for it and 506 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: doing everything as if it's your very own son, in 507 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: my opinion, and I don't judge anybody. Everybody does their 508 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: own thing, but I just I don't think there's a 509 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: place for people that don't treat this as if it's 510 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: they're coaching their very own son. So that's what drives 511 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: me up a wall. Lack of detail, you know, not 512 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: understanding that the percent of the percent of the percent 513 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: and this particular aspect of the game technique fundamentals will 514 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: be the difference and you holding a trophy or not. 515 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: And I guess people that don't fight for that is 516 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: what I have a tough time fathoming with driving ample wall. 517 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: Does there ever a surprise you when people don't have it? 518 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: I just I don't judge. I don't judge. You know. 519 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: One thing I never want to do is sit on 520 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: the seat and say, well, this is the way and 521 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: that's the way. I just I just choose not to 522 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: not to be around that because this I mean football, 523 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 2: I mean I love football. Football is like, come on, man, 524 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: there's nothing better in the world. And then I get 525 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: the coach where I played, Okay, and I think of, 526 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, just in our state alone, no one can 527 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: say that. You know. So every single minute of every 528 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: day dedicate to the University of Miami. It means that 529 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: much more, you know. And I want to be surrounded 530 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: by people that feel the same way about the program. 531 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: And luckily we have that. Like I have an awesome staff. 532 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: We work together. We don't work for when we work 533 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: with each other. And that's a pre rerect man. And 534 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: you know what, when I was an assistant coach and 535 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: I coach at Alabama. When I started as an assistant Oregon, 536 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: that was my vow. I'm going to work here as 537 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: if I played here. I'm going to dedicate every ounce 538 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: to it. Because at the end of the day, and 539 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: this I love and I heard this from a mentor 540 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: a long time ago. We need more people that are 541 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: good for young people. The world does not have enough 542 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: mentors and people that are good for young people. And 543 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: if you have the opportunity, brother, you've got to go right, 544 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: and you've got to like pour every ounce that you 545 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: have into it. And you know, you still have a life. 546 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: You know, no one's asking you to, you know, be 547 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: a complete martyr and give up everything, but you have 548 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: to the time that's allotted for your people, you have 549 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: to completely dive into it. 550 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Does this surprise you when you look at the temperament 551 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: or mentality of your average player today that so they've 552 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: got access to way more information, They're connected way more 553 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: to the world, which could mean access to good and bad. 554 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Does it surprise you that, like, on average, it seems 555 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: like they're way better people. There's way less off the 556 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: field issue than there would have been twenty or thirty 557 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: years ago. 558 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: Does it surprise me? I'm very surprised by it. Like 559 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: I'm very surprised by it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I 560 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 2: think everybody is much more inclined to be educated at 561 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: the snap of a finger right, a button or whatnot. 562 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I play with some complete just animals, you 563 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: know what I mean, So I have a different perspective. 564 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: It was fun and they were awesome, and I think 565 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: you're right now. And I'll say this, I think they're 566 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: smarter that I think they have access to more like 567 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: you said. And I think also we're in the day 568 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: and age of nil they can do things that allow 569 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: them to recover better, to rest better, sleep better, to 570 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: have access to more information as to how they can 571 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: better themselves as prospects for their current team, their position 572 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: for the future. I think guys are getting more and 573 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: more serious about their craft. I guess that'd be the 574 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: best way to describe it. But I do agree with you. 575 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: I think you do see less and less. 576 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: What was it like the other day watching this place 577 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: just get flooded during Pro Day versus two years ago? 578 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: Three years ago? I was here for a Pro Day 579 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: and did not know Pro Day was happening, right, And 580 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: I was in the end door as Pro Day was 581 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: going on. I was unaware that it was even occurring. 582 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: So how radical was that? Twenty four month versus thirty 583 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: six animal house clip? 584 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Right? Nothing to see it here? All is well, all right, 585 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: nothing's going on behind. But it was awesome. Man, those 586 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: are you know what it is? Promise fulfilled validated sitting 587 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: there in those homes. Back then there were a lot 588 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: of sitting homes. I mean, these new rules I can't stand. 589 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: But anyways, we're able to sit in those homes and say, 590 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: this is what we're going to do. This is how 591 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: we're going to elevate it. It's going to be incredibly hard, 592 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 2: it's going to test it every way possible, and at 593 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: the end of this, this is how it's going to end. 594 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: And that's how we projected it to end. And in 595 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: the month of March, so one hundred and ten plus 596 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: personnel here raving about our guys. What I love most 597 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: is the way that NFL people were talking about our guys, 598 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: how they handled themselves, how they answered questions, their level 599 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: of football IQ, their background checks were off the charts, 600 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: and then they loved the way that they played that 601 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: they played incredibly hard. We actually made a tape for 602 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: our players on how we played the game here at Miami, 603 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: and it's a flood of incredible highlights from the guys 604 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: you saw out there. So it's it's a sign of 605 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: things to come right your program. Typically they reflect each other. 606 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: The month of April reflects what happens during the season. 607 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: You typically don't have a consecutive years, of course, consistent 608 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: years of poor drafts and high level teams right use 609 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: the high level teams high drafts, right, and it just 610 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 2: it's cyclical, and I think we're approaching that, and all 611 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: we got to do is work harder and do better, 612 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: improve in every aspect, and just focus on us. 613 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: One of the fun things about college football is there 614 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: are really good position groups or rooms out there that 615 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: people are unaware of. Because it's not pro ball. You 616 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: don't know the names as well. They haven't been around 617 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: as long. So if people look at Miami right now, 618 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: they know Malachai Tony. They know that name, and he 619 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: just burst on the scene last year. Behind him, outside 620 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: world probably looked at your receiver room and says, I 621 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: wonder what else they have there. I know it's time 622 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: to shut up and go to work. I understand all that, right, 623 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: But just like in terms of overall personnel there, how 624 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: do you feel about that room? 625 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 626 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: I feel I feel that room and like the rest 627 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 2: of the team has the ability to I mean sky's 628 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: a limit for them. But I also know that, you know, 629 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: I know one team that could will part, But that's Miami. 630 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: If we've got in our own way and if we 631 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: and if we buy into you know, all the accolades 632 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: that are hold this way and whatnot. So I approaches 633 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 2: the same man. You know, I'm the most boring in 634 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: you in sports. 635 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Brother. 636 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to say the same stuff again and again 637 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: and again. You know what, because if the players saw 638 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: me pouring accolades out on such a widely viewed, you know, show, 639 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: they would they think it's AI first and foremost, and 640 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: then they'd, you know, they'd have me drug tested to 641 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: make sure that I was okay, you know, because we 642 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: just we don't operate in that manner. But that being said, 643 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: we do make sure that that we praise effort and 644 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: reward performance, and that room has really it's it's up 645 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: the caliber of length, size, speed, playmaking ability, and there's 646 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: an excitement around that that group that is it's real, 647 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: it's real. We just got to go out and prove it. 648 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: It was like a ten dollar bed on the staff 649 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: whether you would even mention a player by name and 650 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: I won there? Do you want that I mentioned a 651 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: player right there, we go cash in the pocket ten bucks. 652 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: I'll take fifty percent. The one more thing I wanted 653 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: to ask you is if you're if you're a high achiever, 654 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: if you're really, really motivated and you get close to something, 655 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: people slap you on the back, and you're kind of 656 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: almost you accept it and you appreciate it, but you're 657 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: almost a little embarrassed by it because you're like, I 658 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: haven't arrived, I've really done what you're congratulating me for doing. 659 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: And I know the kind of people that are in 660 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: this building, so I kind of already know the answer 661 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: to the question. 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