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Speaker 2: We're back to show I Got Tonight.
Speaker 1: She's an actor and a comedian.
Speaker 3: She co wrote and she co wrote in stars in
Speaker 3: the new film Babes.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to a lot of guys here. Please No,
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 4: I just love you, John Stewart, I love you a
Speaker 4: lot of.
Speaker 3: And boy, this movie is so good, thank you. And
Speaker 3: it's so funny and you're so good in it, and
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm thrilled to death for you.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's are you? Are you excited for?
Speaker 2: It's coming out?
Speaker 1: What is it coming out?
Speaker 4: It's coming out in select cities May seventeenth, and expands
Speaker 4: and expands the twenty fourth.
Speaker 1: Then did you yourself personally?
Speaker 4: No, just the demographics, you know.
Speaker 3: So, Alana Glazer didn't say I would like to go
Speaker 3: to Louisville with my mouve. It's the relationships. So it's
Speaker 3: it's yourself. It's Michelle Boutteaux and it's Hassin Mena plays
Speaker 3: her husband, and he's the most wonderful husband.
Speaker 1: It's not believable.
Speaker 4: They are such a delicious couple. And also, like Michelle
Speaker 4: keeps saying, it's giving such queens, we look like we
Speaker 4: grew up in Queen's together.
Speaker 1: You know, it really does.
Speaker 3: I have to tell you though, Like at the end,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to give any away, but like I
Speaker 3: did get a little like tiary.
Speaker 4: Yeah good like it? Oh yeah, baby, why.
Speaker 1: Would you do that?
Speaker 4: You feel your feelings?
Speaker 3: I was feeling my feelings. What about your feelings? Not
Speaker 3: only is this about the mom?
Speaker 1: You're the mom? You had your Mother's Day?
Speaker 4: I was actually we were doing a Q and A
Speaker 4: screening in Lincoln Square. I was with Julie Louis Dreyfuss.
Speaker 4: I was like, happy Mother's Day to me, dog. So
Speaker 4: I got to yeah, yeah, that's lovely Q and A
Speaker 4: for us. I was like, thank you girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, So she doesn't live there.
Speaker 4: At the Lincoln Square, AMC No, That's what I'm wondering. No,
Speaker 4: but I'm so glad you liked it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really and how did was it strange to
Speaker 3: sit in the theater and watch it go down.
Speaker 4: Didn't scadaddled after the Q and A.
Speaker 1: You don't watch the people watch the movie?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've seen it a bunch of times.
Speaker 4: We did the test screenings too, and it was like
Speaker 4: in Burbank or whatever. They lured people at the mall
Speaker 4: to come see the movie and you know, give us feedback.
Speaker 4: And so I've just seen it so many times. And
Speaker 4: I just watched it in la at like a little
Speaker 4: private screening and we have tomorrow the premiere.
Speaker 3: So how did they lure So I did that once?
Speaker 3: And what do they do to lure them? Because I
Speaker 3: think they should use gummies?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they use gummies. I think that's legal.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I think I think people need work. They lore them
Speaker 4: with employment in an employment based insurance system. So people
Speaker 4: are just desperate.
Speaker 1: And they like to have the opinions.
Speaker 3: Do they after something like that happens, do they come
Speaker 3: does the company come to you and say, Phil, yes
Speaker 3: from kIPS Bay for sure, said do they really?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh yeah, they definitely care about their the people's opinion,
Speaker 4: which I do too, and like also, you take some
Speaker 4: stuff with the grain of salt. Sometimes They're like it
Speaker 4: was really gross, and it's like, yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 4: you just don't usually see women talk like this or
Speaker 4: experience pregnancy through their own voice, So I could see
Speaker 4: why you think it's gross.
Speaker 3: That's the perspective of the relationship between you and Michelle, so.
Speaker 1: Lovely and easy and just natural.
Speaker 4: And we've been friends for twenty years, oh for real,
Speaker 4: for truly twenty years. So you know she is likes
Speaker 4: a real oh big titty just oh, we are dead,
Speaker 4: we are dead. Just Michelle loves top titty meat, our
Speaker 4: top titty meat, just spilling over just twenty years. She
Speaker 4: is effervescent. She is effervescent. She is she is effervescent.
Speaker 4: She is vibrant, top titty meat. John Stewart, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But you know, to be honest, to
Speaker 4: be honest, like this is this is how women talk. Yes,
Speaker 4: And you know, when we first sent this script out,
Speaker 4: I wrote this with the we My mom just called
Speaker 4: you backstage the number one mench. You're like number two
Speaker 4: compared to Joshua, who I wrote this wrote, sorry, you
Speaker 4: got to meet him number one, such a mensch. And
Speaker 4: you know, when we were and Susie Fox, our producer
Speaker 4: as we were writing this and collaborating it, we put
Speaker 4: a list together of the most surprising and absurd experiences
Speaker 4: we were having becoming parents, and we couldn't believe that
Speaker 4: these things hadn't been covered in film, you know, And
Speaker 4: we send the script out sort of to the industry
Speaker 4: or whatever to see if anybody wants to make it,
Speaker 4: and you know, some people got it, and then some
Speaker 4: people found it like really gross, really blue, and it's like, no,
Speaker 4: it's just real. This is how women talk to each
Speaker 4: other and this is what pregnancy is.
Speaker 3: You know, you get well, that is the thing about
Speaker 3: it as you watch it as someone who is non woman.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the term we're using.
Speaker 4: Now, whatever you say becomes the culture being.
Speaker 3: It was yes, you ate and left no crumbs. Oh
Speaker 3: my daughter talking nice, and she has me say it
Speaker 3: at times out of context nice nice. It's brutally embarrassing,
Speaker 3: but it really the repartee, the way that you guys talk,
Speaker 3: the friendship that around it comes so naturally to the
Speaker 3: characters that it's incredibly infectious. And you just also the
Speaker 3: fis you guys are like the just dirty dirty.
Speaker 1: Laverne and Shirley, like it is so like the.
Speaker 3: Physical comedy as well is also such a big part
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think like women are dying to
Speaker 4: just be themselves, you know, and it's like, weirdly, we're
Speaker 4: in this time increasingly where our bodies are more and
Speaker 4: more policed, and it's it's just funny what people are like.
Speaker 4: This is a ranch calm, shocking, and I'm like, God,
Speaker 4: I to woman, you ever laughed with the woman?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: I gotta tylo And then if you guyanas are, can
Speaker 2: I can I give.
Speaker 1: Away at least the one line? Can I say?
Speaker 4: On street you can do whatever you One of my favorite.
Speaker 1: Lines is the whole thing.
Speaker 3: She has this incredible sort of relationship with this gentleman uh,
Speaker 3: and it's it's really this lovely kind of walk through
Speaker 3: your evening. And it ends with they're both obviously feeling
Speaker 3: very amorous, and Alana turns to him and says, uh,
Speaker 3: let's ruin some towels.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just like, score, it's so awesome.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Shout out to Shout out to Stefan James
Speaker 4: who plays that actor and the incredible cast, Oliver Platt,
Speaker 4: Sandra Bernhardt, John Carol Lynch Hassen Manhaj The Lucas Brothers
Speaker 4: fan favorite.
Speaker 3: Lucas Brothers are They're really funny.
Speaker 4: Incredible And Dragona is played by Elena Spinskaya. Can you
Speaker 4: believe Dragona Dragana was Yeah? First movie ever?
Speaker 1: Can I tell what?
Speaker 4: Yes? Girl, first movie ever?
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 4: Slate crush. It goes back to her like spot you
Speaker 4: know every take and it was just like, thank you.
Speaker 3: Is there anything more fun than talking about a movie
Speaker 3: that they haven't seen yet? There's very little I enjoy
Speaker 3: more than the secret information that you and I have
Speaker 3: that they dude, I imagine the Oppenheimer people did that.
Speaker 3: They'd come around and they go, you know what he
Speaker 3: said to Einstein and the audience would be like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What the movie is.
Speaker 4: Should I give a summary?
Speaker 1: Do you want to give amy? Give a summary?
Speaker 4: Please? Okay?
Speaker 1: So yes?
Speaker 4: So this movie is about two best friends who are
Speaker 4: in very different points in their lives. Dawn, who's played
Speaker 4: by Michelle Buteau, has two kids and a husband, and
Speaker 4: my character Eden is single and a free spirit and
Speaker 4: gets knocked up and decides to keep the baby and
Speaker 4: their friendship is tested thereafter, and hilarity and also pathos Pathos,
Speaker 4: Mad Pathos, mad mad mad Pathos.
Speaker 2: Crumbs, no crumbs.
Speaker 3: I just love you so much, and you're so good
Speaker 3: and everything you do is just filled with just bangers
Speaker 3: after bangers, like just the lines are so funny and
Speaker 3: your stuff is so good and and for God's sakes.
Speaker 4: Woman, Oh, it is my honor of pleasure, my heroes.
Speaker 1: Stop it.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to day.
Speaker 7: So my guest tonight is an accomplished filmmaker, writer, actor,
Speaker 7: and artist. Her new novel is called All Fours. Please welcome,
Speaker 7: Miranda July. Oh, thank you for being Do you do
Speaker 7: you want?
Speaker 5: Do you want to take it home with you?
Speaker 6: Such a weird shape for a desk? Okay, it is
Speaker 6: my book.
Speaker 7: It's yeah, great, segue. I am so happy that you're here.
Speaker 7: I loved your book. It's exceptional. It's so funny and
Speaker 7: honest and brave.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 7: I was very leisurely enjoying it over the last two weeks,
Speaker 7: and then I got to that point in the book
Speaker 7: where I only had like twenty pages left, and I
Speaker 7: started to panic that it was almost over. So I
Speaker 7: saved the rest for Mother's Day Perfect, and I locked
Speaker 7: myself in the bathroom for some alone time. So I
Speaker 7: could enjoy the rest of your book. I could not
Speaker 7: imagine a better way of celebrating. Mother said, truly, I'm
Speaker 7: not done.
Speaker 5: That's a hard one. Leave me alone.
Speaker 4: I'm still in the shower. The water's not running.
Speaker 5: It's phenomenal.
Speaker 7: Congratulations or I don't want to spoil it, but give
Speaker 7: us the synopsis of the of the book.
Speaker 6: Ah, well, do you have secret desires?
Speaker 7: Okay, don't say I mean you sound like that. I
Speaker 7: feel like you could do the voice of Omni.
Speaker 4: But I mean, yes, why do you live?
Speaker 5: I know everything?
Speaker 7: You take only money?
Speaker 6: The book is it's really for every woman who's aging
Speaker 6: and has secret desires and anxieties about those desires, and
Speaker 6: is wondering what's going on with her body and her.
Speaker 5: Marriage and just her whole self.
Speaker 6: And uh, I mean you, I don't know what you
Speaker 6: were doing there in the bathroom, but.
Speaker 5: I wrote it for you.
Speaker 4: It does feel that way.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 7: You made a very specific choice to not name your
Speaker 7: main character, your narrator of the novel, be honest, is
Speaker 7: it me?
Speaker 5: Because I wonder I left.
Speaker 6: It open as so you would be able to Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like the secret thing that you're
Speaker 6: wanting to know is did I have a very hot
Speaker 6: emotional affair with a young man who worked at the
Speaker 6: Hertz rent a car?
Speaker 7: Well, I would, I would never be so bold to ask,
Speaker 7: but did you and tell me everything?
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to read it and.
Speaker 7: Is kind of into it. What I appreciated so much
Speaker 7: is the fact that you explore all of these different
Speaker 7: topics that are sort of unspoken in our society. You
Speaker 7: talk about perimenopause, you talk about the trauma involved in childbirth,
Speaker 7: you talk about finding sexual freedom and intimacy in all
Speaker 7: of its forms. Why do you think those things aren't
Speaker 7: talked about very often?
Speaker 5: I know, I why aren't they?
Speaker 6: Like I was looking, I was like, probably right, I
Speaker 6: started writing the book when I was forty five, but
Speaker 6: probably at like forty I was looking for that book
Speaker 6: or like, honestly, I would have taken a pamphlet.
Speaker 5: Like I was that desperate, And I mean all I
Speaker 5: could figure.
Speaker 6: Was like, oh, what's coming must be so humiliating that
Speaker 6: it's like out of respect to us that we don't
Speaker 6: talk about it.
Speaker 7: You know, it does feel like that. Do you think
Speaker 7: that the conversation is changing? Do you think more women
Speaker 7: are talking?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: Well, the thing is like, so that was happening, this
Speaker 6: like absence right, like this cliff, like there's a cliff
Speaker 6: on the cover, because that's kind of a mapless place
Speaker 6: that we're talking about.
Speaker 5: But meanwhile, in real.
Speaker 6: Life, me and all my friends were having these really
Speaker 6: incredible conversations about our bodies and our our marriages and
Speaker 6: our we were questioning. Everything was like this radical questioning
Speaker 6: and exciting. It was exciting, like heart pounding real not
Speaker 6: boring times. And so I thought, it, is there something
Speaker 6: bad that happens if you write about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess we'll find out.
Speaker 7: I mean it, it really it, It really spoke to me,
Speaker 7: and in so many ways you One of my favorite
Speaker 7: parts was when you talk about having a conversation with
Speaker 7: another character, I should say your character, not you. Your
Speaker 7: character had a conversation with someone and uh and they
Speaker 7: said people are either parkers or drivers, not both. You
Speaker 7: can be one or the other. Explain what a parker
Speaker 7: is and what a driver is, and which are you?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 6: So I always feel like there's this other kind of
Speaker 6: person who j can have a good.
Speaker 5: Time more easily.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's like another kind of woman who's just
Speaker 6: like chill.
Speaker 8: You know her, And then there's then and those are drivers, right,
Speaker 8: they can do a cross country drive and it's just like,
Speaker 8: you know, a fun time.
Speaker 6: And then there's parkers and they need a discrete task
Speaker 6: that's nearly impossible and for which they will receive applause,
Speaker 6: which is I mean, you don't end up here if
Speaker 6: you're not a parker, either of us. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 6: that's the I mean, I don't know. Everyone can decide
Speaker 6: on their own heads at home which.
Speaker 5: Kind they are.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 7: I love that you have described this as a coming
Speaker 7: of age story, and it made me wonder, like, why
Speaker 7: do all coming of age stories have to be about teenagers?
Speaker 7: Why can't a coming of age story about a woman
Speaker 7: in the middle of her life?
Speaker 6: Right, I know, And it's so funny all those teenage
Speaker 6: coming of age stories, which is literally also what every
Speaker 6: love song is about too. The unspoken thing is there's
Speaker 6: a hormonal change that happens at this age. But we
Speaker 6: build all this meaning on top of it, right, you know,
Speaker 6: all this and it's beautiful, all the stuff that that
Speaker 6: time of life means. There's also a hormonal change that
Speaker 6: happens at this time of life, but.
Speaker 5: No story, right, Like, what is the love story about now,
Speaker 5: you know, And.
Speaker 6: I think it's like not just a benign accident that
Speaker 6: there's no stories like I think, you know, maybe we're
Speaker 6: just supposed to think we're done now that we had.
Speaker 5: Our kids, or you know, I hope not.
Speaker 6: No, No, it's I absolutely I think I'm like just
Speaker 6: barely old enough older than you to be able to say, like, no,
Speaker 6: don't worry.
Speaker 7: I'm so grateful that you wrote this book. It really
Speaker 7: it spoke to me. I think it's going to speak
Speaker 7: to so many other women. It is such a fun read.
Speaker 7: It is saucy, it is funny. I'm so happy for you. Congratulations.
Speaker 7: I can't wait to see what you do next. Thank
Speaker 7: you for being here.
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