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Speaker 1: Happy Monday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome in the Texans All access from the Hyundai

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Speaker 2: Texans the radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice of

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Speaker 2: the Texans, Mark vandermir Mark, what would your score have

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Speaker 2: been at Oakmont in four rounds for the US udrid.

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Speaker 1: And seventy two?

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel like though I would have done

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Speaker 3: everything I could to stay out of that rough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yep.

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Speaker 3: These guys they know they could hit it three hundred whatever,

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Speaker 3: so they go ahead and pound it three hundred and

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Speaker 3: it rolls into the rough. I always feel like, hit

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Speaker 3: it to eighty two ninety and keep it straight. But

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Speaker 3: it's easier said than Dutch, sure, because they know their

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Speaker 3: abilities and they want to try to take advantage of

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Speaker 3: the situation. It was just bizarre when everybody started falling back. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it got into the pluses and it kept moving up.

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Speaker 1: A little bit, and it was like, oh my godness,

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Speaker 1: you canna get in this state. It wouldn't make the

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Speaker 1: punt just yeah. It just seemed like a tough day

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Speaker 1: for that.

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Speaker 2: But JJ spawn, Yeah, that was two of the greatest

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Speaker 2: shots maybe in golf major golf history, the drive on

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Speaker 2: seventeen that rolls on the green and gets him close

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Speaker 2: and he can birdie and then the putt on eighteen.

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Speaker 1: The putt on eighteen was ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: But just being able to get down the green in eighteen,

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Speaker 3: that's what you had to do, had to because you

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Speaker 3: had to had to the other guy Hoblin to make

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Speaker 3: the big putt, he couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: So those are big shots right there, obviously.

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Speaker 3: If that was Scottie, if that was give me another guy, Rory, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Rory Deshambeau. If it was, well, Kepka is a different

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Speaker 3: category now because he's really speeking out now, right he is,

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Speaker 3: And I hate to hear him out as a verb

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Speaker 3: because I like I like Jordan's speed, even though he's

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Speaker 2: He was the first golfer that I happened to see.

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Speaker 2: When I turn it on, it was like plus eight.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, but then it's the US Open.

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Speaker 2: It's like, man, plus eight may not be in it.

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Speaker 2: But then he missed the putts.

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Speaker 1: No shame. Oh man, I hated what Rory said.

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Speaker 3: I think on Saturday though, trying to get out of

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Speaker 3: here in four and a half, I was just out

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Speaker 3: of here, like shut up in the US Open, he's

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Speaker 3: getting to be.

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Speaker 1: A little annoying.

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Speaker 2: I've the press the whole I'll only go to talk

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Speaker 2: to the press when I want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've earned that. I get very

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Speaker 1: I don't touch.

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Speaker 2: He's the right word when I hear players coaches people,

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Speaker 2: I've earned it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No you haven't. Who guess what Tiger's earned it?

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Speaker 3: You have not earned it. Rory and my relationship with Rory.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because on the Ringer podcast they talk about

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Speaker 3: relationships you have because you have a relationship with people,

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Speaker 3: you root for, actors, you like, the musicians you like.

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Speaker 3: It's your personal relationship. My relationship with Rory, which doesn't

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Speaker 3: exist personally, it's just as a fan. I never liked him,

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Speaker 3: and then I started to like him when Live started

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Speaker 3: and he was repping the PGA tool.

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Speaker 1: Time, almost by himself.

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Speaker 3: Scotty's obviously come up so strong, but Rory really took

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Speaker 3: it upon himself to sort of carry the PGA tour

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Speaker 3: or co care. So I wasn't disappointed when he won

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Speaker 3: the Masters. But after all that, now I'm done. I'm

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Speaker 3: done with you and the Live guys. Somehow, in agreement's

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Speaker 3: going to happen. Somehow they're going to come back a

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Speaker 3: lot of them, if not all of them. At some

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Speaker 3: point the Saudis don't like it anymore. They're thinking, what

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Speaker 3: are we doing? We have all these tournaments that nobody

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Speaker 3: really cares about. The problem is when you go to

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Speaker 3: one I don't know if they're doing the one of

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Speaker 3: the Golf Club of Houston again this year, but they

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Speaker 3: did one last year. And the fact that I don't

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Speaker 3: even know this is a problem for Live.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Live.

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Speaker 3: You got to get to me. It's what BGA stuff

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Speaker 3: gets to me. Why doesn't your stuff get to me?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, get to me on your phone?

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Speaker 3: Things get to you. All the NFL stuff gets to

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Speaker 3: me constantly. All right, Some NBAA stuff gets to me.

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Speaker 3: Everyone can relate to what I'm saying. It gets to you.

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Speaker 3: They find their way to you. Live should find its

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Speaker 3: way to me, but they don't. So they're not that

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Speaker 3: cutting edge. You're really not that cutting edge if you're

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Speaker 3: on the CW as your major network. And I know

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Speaker 3: they have Fox now too, but anyway, and they started

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: However, I'm just done with him, and to me, you

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Speaker 3: should be grateful that you have that opportunity talk. Talk

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Speaker 3: all you want about Phil Micholson back in the day.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people didn't like it, but

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Speaker 3: when he was not doing well, he would talk about

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to stay positive out there. It's

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Speaker 3: the Masters, it's a Sunday afternoon. I'm playing golf. This

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Speaker 3: is a gift from God. Whatever he said, I'm paraphrasing.

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Speaker 3: I like guys who have the attitude of gratitude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I feel like Rory has somehow lost that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if it had to do with

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Speaker 2: all the hubbub in twenty four about he and his

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Speaker 2: but he's I don't it's not a heel turned, but

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Speaker 2: it's just it's just kind of off putting.

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Speaker 1: And the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I think I've deserved that, Like, yeah, talk to your people, man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean at PRAN you want good TV ratings, you.

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Speaker 2: Want the the the PGA and the USGA to do well.

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Speaker 1: Like, come on, man, the thing.

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Speaker 3: Is this, it's not for your p For NFL teams,

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Speaker 3: We've seen guys and heard from guys who don't like

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Speaker 3: to talk, got it, But the team still exists and

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Speaker 3: still plays, and it's a team. Yes, it's an entity.

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Speaker 3: It's the uniform, it's the logo, it's the brand, it's

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Speaker 3: all of it. If you're a golfer, you're the guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's all you. So you're really hurting yourself by doing that.

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Speaker 3: How do you think the fans know what you're up to?

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Speaker 3: You're not that good on social media now. I got

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Speaker 3: to say this about him though. I did see playing

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Speaker 3: lessons on the Golf Channel with him recently and I

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Speaker 3: thought that was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That was good. He should do more of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, JJ spawn unbelievable story. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say he really kind of came out of nowhere. But

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Speaker 2: the second half or the second part of last year,

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Speaker 2: he started to do some things and you're like, WHOA, okay,

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Speaker 2: But in early twenty twenty four he's actually considering whether

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Speaker 2: he should just be done with it, give up the

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Then you get to twenty twenty five and he plays

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Speaker 2: well early, doesn't win a tournament at the Players. He led,

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Speaker 2: but then Rory beat him in a three hole playoff,

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Speaker 2: so he lost that. But I heard him say yesterday

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Speaker 2: And then yesterday he is he's out the lunch. The

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Speaker 2: first the front nine is like, he's out the lunch.

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Speaker 2: He's absolutely done. Who could get it from that?

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Speaker 1: No one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one, especially a guy with such little winning

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Speaker 2: pedigree on the PGA Tour, And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: he just little by little gets back into it and

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Speaker 2: in doing so, puts himself in a point where he's

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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventeen yards, he drives the green and nearly.

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Speaker 1: Rolled the ball in the hole. Yeah, that was huge.

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Speaker 1: Nearly rolled it in a hole.

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Speaker 2: Then he has a sixty plus foot putt on eighteen

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Speaker 2: drops that we go under, the only player of the

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Speaker 1: I love stories like this, and you'll love this.

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Speaker 2: Spawn also began playing the guitar as a child and

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Speaker 2: stayed in twenty eighteen that he could play Stairway to

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Speaker 2: Heaven by Led Zeppelin.

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Speaker 1: That's your new favorite golfer. Yeah that is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Although when I was growing up, everybody played stairway. It

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Speaker 3: got so ridiculous that in Wayne's world they have the

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Speaker 3: thing where they're in the music store, there's a sign

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Speaker 3: that says no stairway. Yeah, there's certain songs you're not

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Speaker 3: allowed to play. This is like baseball's unwritten rules.

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Speaker 1: As we found out in Wayne's world, you're no stairway

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Speaker 3: You're not allowed to play certain songs in a music store,

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Speaker 3: at a guitar store, like Smoke on the Water. He

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Speaker 3: can't play that, can't play the white stripes, you know,

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens Lime song, can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he has two PGA tour wins. Two he won

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Speaker 2: the Valero Open in twenty twenty two in San Antonio

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Speaker 2: in the Yeah, and then one Us opened yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Good for him.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes thirty four years old guys like this.

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Speaker 3: I Septis say they've ruined my Sunday because I want

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Speaker 3: the big names to win. But anybody but live and

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Speaker 3: and I don't care about the Shambo. I know a

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Speaker 3: lot of people like him. I think he's a likable guy,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want to live golfer to win.

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Speaker 1: No one really has flipped it for the Shamba.

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Speaker 2: Social media, Oh, Yeah, he started doing a bunch of

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Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram reels and stuff like that, and all

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Speaker 2: him win. And he's kind of done it about face

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Speaker 2: with you know, not being hard oh guy all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's really turned into a he's not a swinger.

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Speaker 2: He feels like more a golfer now. I mean it

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Speaker 2: felt like before he just swam like long drive competition. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now he's actually turned into a golfer seemingly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the way I guess I would I

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Speaker 2: would phrase it, But he's not as it's funny because

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Speaker 2: years ago, I mean, Rory's my guy. It's here for

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Speaker 2: Rory and want to see Rory do well have But man,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm not I'm not living die with him,

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Speaker 2: no pun intended. But I lately I just have been

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Speaker 2: so put off by him. It's just been really frustrated

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Speaker 2: the whole you know, don't talk to the media thing,

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Speaker 2: like I've earned that, Like, come on, man, this is

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Speaker 2: your conduit to the fans. This is you know, media,

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Speaker 2: people that have got a right stories and and prop

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Speaker 2: up the game of golf still and there are people

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Speaker 2: that are doing that.

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Speaker 1: Answer your damn questions, you know.

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Speaker 2: Go say what you have to say, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: give your message. I just I get really frustrated, you

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Speaker 2: know with that. I understand, like you said, there there

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Speaker 2: are people you know, you and I are very comfortable

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Speaker 2: beyond the mike.

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Speaker 1: This is what we do. I mean, it's our occupation.

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Speaker 1: Is fine.

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Speaker 2: We can go up there and talk about anything. You

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Speaker 2: ask us questions. We could be the golfers and we

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Speaker 2: Maybe I can get a guy that has shown he

437
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 2: could come off the bench and put the ball in

438
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 2: the basket, but he's not gonna be Durant, and maybe

439
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 2: I have to give up something for him, maybe a

440
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 2: draft pick or maybe a draft pick and a player

441
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: that we just don't see a future with.

442
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: Okay, then I'm fine with that.

443
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 2: But Durant, I just I mean, I'm trying to think,

444
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 2: and I've tried to think when as a team, Well

445
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 2: there's one in football, I mean that was that wasn't

446
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: really a trade, but it was a signing.

447
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: But it's the rare one.

448
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: When has a team ever signed anybody thirty seven thirty

449
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: eight plus? Yeah, Brady's the only one that you can

450
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: think of. That's Brady Brady, not Brady, Yeah, this is Brady.

451
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, so that would be Lebron.

452
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And you know what, if you could just

453
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: sign Lebron, yes please, absolutely the time a signing, look

454
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: number signing.

455
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: Or signed to Urant.

456
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 3: Even if I could sign to rand is the rant

457
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 3: gonna want another contract to.

458
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like he's gonna want one.

459
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe maybe maybe just me, but thning

460
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: to Henry Totoea, maybe think of this article I saw

461
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: on PFF, Because can Reed Shepherd can whitmore? Can they

462
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 2: become kind of underrated pieces in this whole thing that

463
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: the rockets see more with them, and so therefore they

464
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 2: don't make a trade. I don't think those two would

465
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: be the reason they don't make a trade. I think

466
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: it would be more. Hey, this core that we have,

467
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: let's let's run it back and see what we can do.

468
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: And and the.

469
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: Thing is, if that group can run it back and

470
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: and do even more, and maybe you win a championship

471
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 2: within the next couple of years, well, all of a sudden,

472
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: that's a group that can It's gonna lose a piece

473
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: here and maybe a piece there, but the core of

474
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: it you probably could keep together for a while. But

475
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: if you trade off pieces and even pieces from your

476
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: quarter bring in Durant, how long does Durant have? So

477
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: are you gonna have to jump in that boat every

478
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: single year of Okay, well Durant left, what aging veteran

479
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: can we get now to go score to replace Durank.

480
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 3: And answer this like talk to me like I'm five,

481
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: and you don't have to answer this.

482
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: This is rhetorical more than anything. Why did it work

483
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: in Phoenix? Yeah? Better?

484
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like at least a little bit better. That's a

485
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 3: good point than it did. Like at least make a

486
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: threat and hid the playoffs. Yeah, just get the playoffs. Yeah,

487
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: like make a dent Okay. And the thing is is

488
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: maybe the fuss that all on him either, but they

489
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: had some things going for them.

490
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix's Phoenix, I know, wants their draft picks back.

491
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: If there is some way that Phoenix gets desperate and

492
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: they give you a really you know, team friendly deal

493
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: and you're not having to give up.

494
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 1: Your core, Okay, I want him to be happy, you know,

495
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: not having any But.

496
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: If I only if I've got to give up two

497
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 2: three pieces from my core, and one of them's potentially well,

498
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, Shangoon Jalen, I don't know who all's

499
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: gotta be in that. But if I don't have to

500
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: give up as much as they get closer to draft time.

501
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: It's still gonna hurt. I'm sorry, Yeah, there's gonna pain.

502
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: No, you're right, Well, thinking of Henry Toatoa came with

503
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: more reed Shepherd, I kind of feel like, I don't

504
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: know if underrated is the right word. Maybe overlooked at times? Well, PFF,

505
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 2: and this is what popped in my head because I

506
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: saw this article today. Pffs five overlooked teams in the

507
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: NFL in twenty twenty five.

508
00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Who I like this.

509
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: I want to see if you agree with this? Okay,

510
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: overlooked teams. So this is how they went about this.

511
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: Since they're opening, I said, Football prognosticators spend the entire

512
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: offseason searching for legitimate Super Bowl contenders as well as

513
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: those who could be dark horses to make noise in

514
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: the postseason. In the process, some teams get overlooked, whether

515
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: because of market size or an underestimation of their talent

516
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: level and ability to win games. With that as a backdrop,

517
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: PFF came up with five teams that they feel more

518
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: optimistic about despite being overlooked for one reason or another.

519
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's go now.

520
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: You tell me whether you agree with this first one.

521
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: I disagree with totally. The Cincinnati Bengals.

522
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're overlooked. I think everybody thinks

523
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: that they're the nit champions. They're the best team that

524
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 3: didn't make the playoffs that you would never want to face.

525
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: My gosh, look at that offense cooking at the end

526
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: of the year.

527
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: I feel like this is nineteen ninety loyal A Merrimount.

528
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: Lots of they go up and down a field, they score,

529
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: they've got stars. They can't stop running water on the

530
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: other end, and it eventually catches up to him.

531
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they started to win.

532
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: I forget how many they want at the end, Johnny, Yeah,

533
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: they want a bunch at the end and threatened but

534
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: didn't get in. What's interesting is the year before they

535
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: also finished nine and the eight with Jake Browning finishing

536
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: off the year at quarterback. Right right, Zach Taylor can coach.

537
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, got to get the defense fortified. And I

538
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: know Anarrumo lost his job because of this, but it

539
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: wasn't just him. They were injury riddled. Are they overlooked?

540
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they're overlooked. I think people think that

541
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: they could be a major threat's shoe not a major threat.

542
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: But if they don't get Trey Hendrickson signed and they

543
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: don't fix this thing with Shamar Stewart. They've got no

544
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: edge presence, they can't get any pressure on the quarterback,

545
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: and defensively they're gonna be abysmal. So I look, are

546
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: they gonna win games? Yeah, by virtue of the offense,

547
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: but defensively they can't stop anybody. Right, they can't stop anybody. Okay,

548
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: here's number two. Okay, the Dallas Cowboys. Now I don't

549
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: know the Dallas Cowboys and overlooked those words have ever

550
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: been in the same sentence. But they point out here

551
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott coming back, Schottenheimer becoming the head coach.

552
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: Why is that such a plus?

553
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they're saying that Prescott, when he

554
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: was working under Schottenheimer had some of his best numbers,

555
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: his best PFF numbers. So they're they're pointing to Dak,

556
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: the addition of George Pickens, that's all right, that can help.

557
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: Then bringing back to Ron Bland, Trayvon Diggs in the secondary,

558
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: both healthier than they were, and then donovanez Rok who

559
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: edge rusher, who played at Boston College last year. So,

560
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: as they said the very last sense, they're rightfully concerns

561
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: about the Cowboys' ability to run the ball and stop

562
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: the run. But if their star players are healthy and

563
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: playing at their typical level, they will contend for a

564
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: postseason birth. I don't know if i'd say that Cowboys

565
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: are overlooked, but I can kind of see it in

566
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: that division because Washington is the flavor of the year.

567
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: And if Philly won a championship and the Giants just

568
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: continue to kind of make moves, and we'll see what

569
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: they do.

570
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: The top two are.

571
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: So strong, right, and the Cowboys, I know they had

572
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: three consecutive twelve wins seasons, but two years ago is

573
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: a long time ago in the NFL. Look how the

574
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: roster has changed. Have they run the ball at all

575
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: without Tony Pollard?

576
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: Right?

577
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: And that's what you need to look at here, among

578
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: other things. In Schottenheimer, I'm the one who said, hey,

579
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: maybe Shottenheimer's is a great delegator.

580
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: We don't know it.

581
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: He'll be a better head coach than people think. That's

582
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: all possible. I think Dak's a better quarterback than people think.

583
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: A lot of people give them credit for. I still

584
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: the culture. I hate to bring up that word, but

585
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 3: it was so weird to me how when we we

586
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: were there for Muda Night Football that Micah Parsons and

587
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Cede Lamb were over on the side, not even particular

588
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: with people not even participating in pregame warm ups, not

589
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: the warm up before the warm up, the actual warm up.

590
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: I'd love to know what longtime NFL players would think

591
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: about this watching what we watch and I'm talking to

592
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: you in the microphone and Q before we went on

593
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: the air, Johnny, can you believe I've never seen this.

594
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm watching them like, like, wait a second, I'm looking

595
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: at it. I'm I can't I can't find Michael Parsons, Like,

596
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, where all these Lamb? Is he out here?

597
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: And I look over to my left and they're they're

598
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: both standing there, just kind of glad handed talking to fans.

599
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the sideline pass holders.

600
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: This would be like Nico Collins when they're all supposed

601
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: to be running routes for the quarterback to real formalized

602
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: pregame warm up over shaking hands.

603
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: With Collins just standing here talking to their agent, their friends,

604
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: their family participate.

605
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: It's not like the president is over there or something.

606
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: It's this people.

607
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: And even if the president was over so you got

608
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: to do your job. Yeah, They're just things that you

609
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: can't do and that was that was one of them.

610
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: So there's that.

611
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: Okay, team number three, all right, buckle up, sparky. The

612
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts overlooked, overlooked. That's the Indianapolis. See that's I'll

613
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: give you mine. Once you give me the fifth, I'll

614
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: give you a couple. But the Cults are not overlooked.

615
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: They might be undervalued, underestimated, overlooked. To me, is this

616
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: is clearly a good team that you're not thinking about.

617
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: It's national media, right. The Coults are not that. The

618
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: Colts can be better than you think, because the Colts

619
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: look Daniel Jones if he somehow doesn't turn the ball

620
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: over as much as he used to do, because he's

621
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: got Jonathan Taylor running well. We talked about the receivers.

622
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: The defense plays better than you think. Everybody's buttoned up.

623
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: It's Shane Steichen's last go around here if he doesn't

624
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: get it together. They were nine and eight the year before,

625
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: they were eight to nine last year. They're not a

626
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: bad team. This is not a bad football team. People

627
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: think it's a bad football team, but it's not. It's

628
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: just an average football team. But average in the NFL

629
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: can beat your butt any day of the week, so

630
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: get ready, buckle up. I'm not saying they're overlooked. I

631
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: think they're kind of undervalued and somewhat underestimate.

632
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: I get that the last two are also teams of

633
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: Texas play. One of them I think falls right Smack

634
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: d Avenue overlook category, I agree with.

635
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: It, and the other one I don't know. Someone, let

636
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: you pick between the two NFC West teams, all right,

637
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers in the Seattle Seahawks.

638
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Right, the forty nine ers, they're saying pff, Ye're saying

639
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: they're overlooked because you're overlooking. If no one's going to

640
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: overlook the forty nine ers, they're overvalued all the time, right,

641
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: maybe all the times a little extreme. This is like

642
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: me having an argument with somebody and I generalized.

643
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: You always do this, well, it's so you know how

644
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: it goes. The football nerds love Shanahan and the way

645
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: we got I get it.

646
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: But they were six and eleven last I mean, yeah,

647
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: six and eleven last year, and yeah, that was sort

648
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: of an aberration because of the injuries and everything like that.

649
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: I still don't call them overlooked because they're gonna get

650
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: plenty of love. How many primetime games do they have?

651
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 3: I don't have it in front of me, but I'm

652
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: sure they got plenty. I'm sure there was plenty of

653
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: primetime games. People think, Oh, the forty nine ers Kyle Shanahan.

654
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: If anything, they've been they've been overvalued throughout the time

655
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: he's been there. He's got a lot of losing campaigns.

656
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: But when he wins, baby, he went big. I mean,

657
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: they go deep. So good for them. But the Seattle

658
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Seahawks are clearly overlooked. Clearly they were ten and seven

659
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: last year. We talked about them in a recent show

660
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: in recent weeks, how they've had one losing season in

661
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: the last whatever twelve years, and it was a seven

662
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: win season under Carol. But Carol even left there with

663
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: a winning season. And I know that Gino's out and

664
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's in. But Donald was good in Minnesota? Can

665
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: he be good here?

666
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: Could? Should? Would? I don't know?

667
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: This was a ten win football team in a pretty

668
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: tough division. I think that they are overlooked. They're adding

669
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup. Yeah, overlooked, overlooked, Yeah you wad Cooper Cup.

670
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: They had a Cooper Cup that should be interesting.

671
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: They got rid of DK Metcalf and not as many

672
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: divas in that pass receiving room, the receiver room, so

673
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. Offensive lines got to play better.

674
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: I'll give you another one, but give me another one.

675
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: That's done in here. Packers, Oh, Packers.

676
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're overlooked because the Packers they won eleven last year,

677
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: the same thing as.

678
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Kind of the same thing as the Cowboys.

679
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: There's no way Minnesota is going to scratch the fourteen

680
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen wins.

681
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: No, no way. Not This year.

682
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: They might win ten. I think the Packers have a

683
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: chance to overtake them. The Bears are way over valued

684
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: all the ways again, Oh my gosh, they won five

685
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: last year, but look at the improvements. That's what you

686
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: told me last year. That's what you told me last

687
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: offseason that they were gonna be good.

688
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: The nerds love the Bears. It's that simple. The nerds

689
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: love the Bears well now because Ben Johnson and Caleb.

690
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: Williams, well, okay, Ben Johnson should make a different friends.

691
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: Should but should is a word that should not exist

692
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

693
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: They should have drafted Tyler Warren.

694
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: I wish they would have because then the Colts wouldn't

695
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: have Tyler Warner, and I think he's gonna be a

696
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: problem in due time.

697
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: All Right, we get back.

698
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Justin Watson came over from the Kansas City Chiefs signed

699
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: this offseason. He's gonna step in studio, Mark and I

700
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: X right here in Texans All Access.

701
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: Time. Everybody. Welcome back to Monday.

702
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: This of Texans All Acts, says John Harris, football analyst.

703
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: It's out of a reporter for your Houston Tech sins

704
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: right here with you and a former Ivy League football player.

705
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: I guess I'm always a Ivy leaguer, but just a

706
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: former IVY League player. I bring that up because our

707
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: next guest was one of those dudes in college and

708
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: as Justin Watson he played at Penn, he was a

709
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: lot lot better than me.

710
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: He's won a lot of.

711
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: Championships, He's won a lot of rings, Super Bowls, AFC Championship,

712
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: NFC Championship, He's played with some incredible quarterbacks and now

713
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: he's here with your Houston Texans.

714
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: To me, he is one of those do not forget

715
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: about this guy.

716
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: He is going to make a play in a handful

717
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: of games this year that turns a game in our favor.

718
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: He did that for the Chiefs, he did it for

719
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: the Bucks. He's gonna do it for this team, is

720
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: no question. Justin Watson Stepton Studio with Mark and myself

721
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: here we go exclusively with.

722
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: Justin Watson and studio with us. Justin Watson receiver for

723
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Speaker 3: your Texans. How's it going, Justin Man?

724
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: So good?

725
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: It's been awesome being down here so far.

726
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were gonna ask you how it is being

727
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: down here so far because they've talked about you what

728
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: you bring to the table, but you tell us what

729
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: you bring to the table for this team.

730
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: How you see yourself fitting in? Justin?

731
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, for me, I can't believe it, but

732
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: it's my eighth year in the NFL. Yeah, third team,

733
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 4: and man, been fortunate enough to play in a lot

734
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: of big games, Super Bowls and had some success in

735
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: those games. So for me, you know, just trying to

736
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: be the vet in the room that's that's seen a

737
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: lot of football, that's that's made some big play and

738
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: some big moments and just try to, you know, bring

739
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: the rest of the room along as well and just

740
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: see where I fit in as far as making plays

741
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: and helping win on Sunday.

742
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: So your aight, Justin Watson can go back in time

743
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: and sit down with rookie year Justin Watson, what one

744
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: piece of advice can.

745
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: You give your What can you give your rookie yourself?

746
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: Man, that is a great question. I mean, shoot, even

747
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: just talking to some of these rookies, I'd say my

748
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: first year, I would say, take a breath, you know,

749
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: because that first year man's rough. You get you get

750
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 4: drafted after playing a long year, doing the whole circuit

751
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: of senior games and all that, and man, you know,

752
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: at the end of day, it's still football. I think

753
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: it took me a year to figure that out. It's

754
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: still just a game that you love playing. You got

755
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: to play it loose and have fun, and that's something

756
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 4: we do a good job of here in Houston.

757
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: What is this offense like?

758
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: All the fans want to know under Nick Cayley, what

759
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: this offense is going to look like?

760
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what this offense is

761
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: going to look like?

762
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to divulge too many secrets other

763
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: than it's going to be different. You know. I thought

764
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: I thought I maybe knew coming in what it might

765
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: be like. But it's a I think it it's a

766
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: mix of some things you know, he did New England,

767
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: some things that he did in uh, you know, in

768
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: LA and then some ideas that he just had and

769
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: we've picked up from around the league. So, uh, we've

770
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: definitely laid the foundation to be able to call anything

771
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: that we want, you know, whether it's play concepts, motion shifts,

772
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: you know, guys in different spots, So there's gonna be

773
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: a lot of creativity and seeing a lot of guys

774
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 4: in different spots.

775
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: Just you've played a ton of big games, played in

776
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: the biggest, one of the biggest, lost the biggest, But

777
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: you've been there, You've been through that. This is organization

778
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: that has not gotten to the FC championship game, which

779
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: Miko Rant just pointed out, that's a that's a goal.

780
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Get there. You're one step closer to the super Bowl.

781
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: How valuable was it for you to have gone through

782
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: those situations where you won AFC championships, where you won

783
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: super Bowls and then use that experience and kind of

784
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: share it with the guys here. How how do you

785
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: kind of see that part of your career being able

786
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: to share it with the young guys.

787
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think, you know, like you said,

788
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: being fortunate, you know, playing in the NFC Championship, the

789
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: last three AFC Championships, you kind of just get a

790
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: feel for the formula, right There's no perfect way. You know,

791
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: there's some luck involved and there's some some good fortune,

792
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: but you kind of see the formula get laid out.

793
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: And it's been exciting being here so far that you know,

794
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: a lot of those same pillars are here. We work hard,

795
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 4: you know, there's no shortcuts. We're doing it every day.

796
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: Everyone's showing up, putting their hand in the pile. And

797
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: then man beyond that, you know, there's just got to

798
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 4: be an unwavering belief, you know, no matter what happens,

799
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 4: we're going to find a way to win those big

800
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: football games, to make those third down conversions and finish.

801
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: You know, like I said, I think that's where we're

802
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: getting to us an organization is no matter what, we're

803
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: going to find a way, and it starts right now

804
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: working those out in OTAs and in the training camp.

805
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: Justin two people at this table have played IVY league

806
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: college football, and I'm the one who hasn't. So let's

807
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: just get it too that you went to penn and

808
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: you got drafted. So how hard is it to get

809
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: drafted out of the IVS? Is there a different dynamic

810
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: that takes place there. People might look at you differently.

811
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

812
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: You tell me what was your pre draft process? Like

813
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: how did that all go down?

814
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know sometimes I've said, you know, as a

815
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 4: as a football prospect, to get drafted, you can't have

816
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: you get you get one strike, but you can't have

817
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: two strikes. And then the IVY League you kind of

818
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: already have have one strike just being that small school product,

819
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: you know, just in the STS in general. So from there,

820
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: you know, you can't run slow. You can't be a

821
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: small school guy and run slow. You can't be a

822
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: small school guy and then not play well in your

823
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 4: senior game. So for me, just the annie was always up.

824
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: But I mean I always felt like I was just

825
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: playing in overtime.

826
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: You know.

827
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: I was a guy. When I was in high school.

828
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 4: All I wanted to be was being my high school

829
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, have my jersey. Hang, I just want

830
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: to be a great high school fotball player. We want

831
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 4: to stay championship in Pennsylvania. Then when I got to college,

832
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: I just wanted to be a great college player, you know,

833
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: and then it led me in the NFL and that's

834
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: been every year. I just want to be a great

835
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: player in the season and help my team win a

836
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: championship in that year.

837
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: You know. So just when you were growing up, do

838
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you play their sports?

839
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: I grew up playing baseball and basketball, so you're three sport.

840
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: How did you How did baseball and basketball make you

841
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: a better football player?

842
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? That's that was great about growing up in Pennsylvania.

843
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 4: You can't play football all year. You know, it's too cold.

844
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: You can't play baseball year. It's freezing. It's freezing out.

845
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: So I think for me, it just it kept my

846
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 4: love of the game.

847
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: You know.

848
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: I just when fall came in, I couldn't wait to

849
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: play football because it it had been so long. I

850
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: like baseball, I liked basketball, but it just kept my

851
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 4: passion that when football season came around, that's all I

852
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: wanted to do. I didn't care if it was you

853
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: know what that was we saw two and three days

854
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: when I was in high school. But you know, it

855
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: was just the love of football. I think is what

856
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: was protected by playing multiple sports.

857
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: You see these young guys now and You're like, yeah,

858
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: we had two days, and they're like, what, yeah, two

859
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: days one of those Oh, let me tell you, young buck,

860
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: what they were.

861
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: You played with Tom Brady, played with Patrick Mahomes.

862
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: You also played with Jamis. That must have been fun.

863
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: Right now, you're probably too young to appreciate some of

864
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: the things about Jamis that we appreciate today, or at

865
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: least we appreciate just watching him from afar.

866
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: But what was that like.

867
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: Playing with Jamis Man?

868
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: He was.

869
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: He was great to play with as a receiver. You know,

870
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: there was a one year when he had the thirty

871
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 4: interceptions thirty picks. Yeah, but we had like a winning

872
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: record when he threw a pick six on the first

873
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 4: drive of the game. Because you get down early, man,

874
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: you're airing it out the rest of the game, you know.

875
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 4: So as a receiver he was fun. But, like I said,

876
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: a lot of the personality stuff that's coming out with

877
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: him on the national media scale, that was every day

878
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: in practice with him. He was just a guy that

879
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: brings a ton of energy. One of the funniest guys

880
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: I've ever been around, sometimes intentionally sometimes just his personality

881
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: coming out. But had a really fun teammate.

882
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: He had that. That was our game in twenty nineteen.

883
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: Yep, Bradley Roby picked him off I think on the

884
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: first throw of the game. Yeah, and Justin Reid picked

885
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: off the second throw of the game, but that one

886
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: got called back. Then you guys took the lead, and

887
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: then somehow we ended up winning that game by a

888
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: field goal.

889
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how much going to

890
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: be in the air though it's jamis.

891
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: It's definitely an experience, there's no there's no question about that.

892
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: Justin we had Braxton in here earlier. We were talking

893
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: to him about playing on the inside. Playing inside a

894
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: little bit different, just because you got all that chaos

895
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: and all the trash in front.

896
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: You gotta be the same page at the quarterback.

897
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Playing outside, you don't have to a lot of times

898
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: kind of go through all that, but you do sometimes.

899
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you've played inside versus outside

900
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: because your size, But what is the difference in playing

901
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: outside versus playing inside for a receiver.

902
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me, looking at the two positions outside,

903
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: naturally you get a lot more one on one coverage.

904
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: Just defenses will play zone everywhere else the outside receiver

905
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: will match a man de man, so you're running more

906
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: one on one routes. You know the defender you're trying

907
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: to beat, usually the corner that's ligned up against you

908
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: in the slot. You just have to have a feel

909
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: for the concept and the defense because usually they have

910
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: help from a linebacker or there's a safety rolling to

911
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: cover you. So you know they're trying to trick you

912
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: into thinking, hey, run the route off of the nickel

913
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: corner and then all of a sudden we spin the

914
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: safety down. It's actually the safety that's covering you. So

915
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: I think the slot for me has become more of

916
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 4: a can you figure it out before the defense shows

917
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: their hand. We're on the outside. Maybe it's a little

918
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: more simple, but you know, you got to create a

919
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: little more separation because it's a further throw from the

920
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: quarterback than you do in the slot.

921
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Justin, thanks so much for visiting. We appreciate it, and

922
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: thanks guys.

923
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: As a blast, Yeah, it definitely was a blast.

924
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: We love get a chance to catch up with Justin

925
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: and just love talk to him about the game of football.

926
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: Very serious guy.

927
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: But I got a feeling, like I said earlier, he

928
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: is gonna make place for this team. At twenty twenty

929
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: five that determine the outcome of games, deep balls, catching runs.

930
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: He's gonna be involved in it seems stay healthy, as

931
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: we do all these guys, but we did him stay healthy.

932
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: He impacted the Bucks when they went and won a

933
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: championship in twenty twenty, impacted the Chiefs a number of

934
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: years in their championship runs. So he's been there, he

935
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: knows it, and I think that's gonna help everybody, especially

936
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: in that receiver room, but everybody on this offense, justin Watson,

937
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: appreciate his time with us. And I avoided saying, Randy,

938
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: what's it from coming to America? Love that Randy whats Yeah?

939
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Just that's one of my favorite movies of all time.

940
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: So gotta give some respect. Okay, let's go around in

941
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: the NFL, even in dead period, the desert, wherever you

942
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: want to call it, there's still stuff happening to the league.

943
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: We'll get to it next our here in Texas, all

944
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Access taping. Everybody, welcome back to the final segment on

945
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: a Monday evening. Hopefully it's beautiful wherever you are. We

946
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: are now in the summer, I suppose hopefully with family,

947
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: maybe on vacation, maybe just chilling with a drink in

948
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: your hand and just listen to Texas All Access.

949
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

950
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston

951
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: Texans go around the NFL start here in Houston. Actually,

952
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander this morning post article about our potential new

953
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: headquarters and that it could be happening sooner than later,

954
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: and what that actually is. Hey, Mike Tobin, President, didn't

955
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: exactly know, but it did, in Jonathan's words, seems to

956
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: be moving quickly.

957
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Now this is state in Harris County, don't know.

958
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Now, keep in mind this is team headquarters, practice, facility, business, ops,

959
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: football ops. Everybody in that building, not where the Texas

960
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: will play games. That is a whole different Matza ball

961
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: to try and handle for down the road. What happens

962
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: with Energy Stadium. To give you kind of an idea,

963
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: last week, we had Metallica in kind of take over

964
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: the building. So you're kind of weaving in and out

965
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: of Metallica. This guy's trying to finish mini camp this week.

966
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: It's Morgan Whalen, and I think he's coming.

967
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: In next week. I think.

968
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: So you gotta deal with all that you're kind of

969
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: moving pieces, moving parts. This discussion about a new facility,

970
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: it's been talked about like, well, you know, we could

971
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: build something like Dallas has, like the Star, where there

972
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: are you know, there's this kind of entertainment district to

973
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: go with the facility, so that you come for a

974
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: trainee camp practice, you see the practice around, you have food,

975
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: maybe you see it, you know, a Houston Football Hall

976
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: of Fame and you go through that. I don't know,

977
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different things that can be done,

978
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: but Mike said their goal. Mike Tolman, President Texans, said

979
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: the goal is to build a training class facilities, world

980
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: class that likely will include an entertainment district with retail

981
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: stores similar to what the Cowboys have built with the

982
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Star in Frisco.

983
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: And having met up there, it is gorgeous. It's really nice.

984
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: It's in Frisco. It's not close to Arlington, where the

985
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys play their games, but has been noted many times

986
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: the Texans are one of only four teams that actually

987
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: do their business out of the stadium, so sounds like

988
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: that could be coming to an end.

989
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: Harris County is one of the various.

990
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: Entities that are wanted to keep the Texans here, but

991
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: there are some other places throughout the said of the

992
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: Texans have looked at all of them. I've had people

993
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: actually contact me say, Hey, who do I need to

994
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: talk to about my county or having this in a

995
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: particular place. I did not represent Galison County in that

996
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: we will not move the Texans facility down to Galveson alltho.

997
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: That would be very very cool, but that is not

998
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: going to happen. It'll be nice, but it won't happen.

999
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: So a lot of things that have to happen, but

1000
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: it could be coming together a lot sooner than maybe

1001
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: anybody expected. And that is something obviously to keep an

1002
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: eye on for the Texans headquarters in training facility coming

1003
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: very very soon. I wanted to make sure I have

1004
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: made this point. This actually is Titans and Texans. My

1005
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: man Everett Gerlings, who I love dearly, is going to

1006
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: take over as the VP of Communication up with the

1007
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. He had been with the Raiders and Jets.

1008
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: He's with the Raiders before he got here with us,

1009
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: and I loved him.

1010
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: He was Omar Majub's right hand guy and.

1011
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: Just awesome, most awesome dudes, I've known he's gonna do

1012
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: a hell of a job. I wish he was in

1013
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: a Tennessee, but at least we get to see him

1014
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: twice a year. That news came down late last week,

1015
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: and I want to make sure that I've told Ian

1016
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: at text I've seen him.

1017
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: I love the guy.

1018
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: And we we're losing with Evert and Titans are winning

1019
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: with that one. But he's getting an opportunity that I know.

1020
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: It's opportunities won it for a long time. So Everitt

1021
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Garylanz is not a name you probably knew, but all

1022
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: the interviews and everything that you see, he was a

1023
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: big part of making all those things happen, even the

1024
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: interview that you saw tonight for or you heard tonight

1025
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: from Justin Watson.

1026
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: So congrats to e.

1027
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: We'll see him very very soon. It looks like Trey

1028
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: Hendrickson and the Bengals have gone back to the negotiating table.

1029
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: We'll see what that turns into, but at least they're talking.

1030
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: And I know the Bengals can be the butt of jokes,

1031
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to finances, but thankfully they've gotten

1032
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: to the table and they're talking. In none now, NFL

1033
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: News one of the coolest things I've seen. Gage Wood,

1034
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: Arkansas pitcher today against Murray State, an elimination game, a

1035
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: College World Series no hitter, first time since nineteen sixty

1036
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: College World Series nineteen strikeouts. He hit a batter in

1037
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: the eighth inning, or it would have had a perfect game,

1038
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 2: no walks, just that hit batter. Congrats the gage Wood

1039
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: and Hogs and Clint Stearn's got to be excited about that.

1040
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: So woo pig suwie and that's the show. Appreciate you

1041
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: guys for having been here. We'll see it tomorrow and

1042
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: as always, go Texans.