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Speaker 1: This is let's be clear with Shannon Dorny. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm joll Martin. You may know me from the Today Show.

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Speaker 1: I was a sportscaster. I've really popped up everywhere, but

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Speaker 1: today my most important title is breast cancer survivor. And

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Speaker 1: this will be emotional for me for a variety of

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Speaker 1: reasons which I'll get into. But what an honor to

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Speaker 1: be asked to do this. I was actually booked on

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Speaker 1: or about to be booked on Shannon's podcast before she passed,

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Speaker 1: and we never got to meet. But we have a

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Speaker 1: mutual best friend in Leslie Sloan who worked with her,

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Speaker 1: and so I feel like I knew her. And I

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Speaker 1: also feel like she's looking down and so proud that

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Speaker 1: we're continuing her messaging right now. So I feel that energy,

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Speaker 1: and so I hope you could feel that too. So

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Speaker 1: this I was supposed to be with her, and I

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Speaker 1: Shannon hope, I am going to make you and your

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Speaker 1: family proud by carrying on this podcast in a way

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Speaker 1: that we will raise awareness and for people listening who

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Speaker 1: are going through treatment, who or survivors like me who

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Speaker 1: are just sort of coming out of a fog. I

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Speaker 1: hope this helps. I'm going to be very raw and

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Speaker 1: very revealing. I so admired Shannon. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: grew up watching her shows and was obsessed with her

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Speaker 1: and like had posters of her kind of obsessed, And

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Speaker 1: so her story really resonated when it started because I

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Speaker 1: was always thought to myself, you know when you look

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Speaker 1: at people and you think they have it all. You know,

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Speaker 1: people will watch on TV and say or on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and say, oh she's great or oh she's you never

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Speaker 1: know what someone's going through or battling. And so like her,

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Speaker 1: I I had breast cancer. Have I mean I say had.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to say that because I'm now considered

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Speaker 1: cancer free, but you know, you're very always as a

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Speaker 1: cancer survivor, scared to say that. And I also went

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Speaker 1: through a divorce. I'm going through like she did. So

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Speaker 1: what a badass she she was, because I think I'm

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Speaker 1: one of the strongest people I know, and every day

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Speaker 1: is a challenge, every day is a fork in the road.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm going to start at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: my story. So I'm forty eight years old. I grew

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Speaker 1: up lucky, like I still think I'm the luckiest person

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Speaker 1: in the world. Even though I've been through hell, I'm

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Speaker 1: back this past year and not fully back. So last

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Speaker 1: June I had gone to the doctor and they said

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Speaker 1: And I said, oh no, because breast cancer runs in

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Speaker 1: my family. Let me start there. My mother had dcis

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Speaker 1: early breast cancer, had a double missectomy. Is healthy and

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Speaker 1: listening right now. And then my grandmother died of breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: And so I never really got the chance as an

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Speaker 1: adult to be with her. But I know she's with me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm wearing charms from everybody who we've lost, and

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Speaker 1: always expecting. Like my mother and my grandmother, we have

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Speaker 1: the same hands, we have the same I was always

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Speaker 1: expecting the day. But you know, it's like anything, you

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Speaker 1: never really you never really are ready to be told

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Speaker 1: you have cancer, ever until you're told you of cancer.

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Speaker 1: So last June I go in. I don't know, whatever

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Speaker 1: I know is so red, probably for crying. But excuse

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Speaker 1: I'll try to come down. Last June I went into

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Speaker 1: the doctor and they said, did you take the Braka test,

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Speaker 1: one of your parents has the Broca gene, they you

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Speaker 1: have a fifty percent chance of getting it. So breast

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Speaker 1: cancer runs in my mother's family, not in my father's family.

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Speaker 1: So my mother was negative even though she had breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: So I thought I didn't have to take it. They said, ticket, anyway,

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Speaker 1: cancer doesn't run on my father's side. So in between

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Speaker 1: doom calls, I literally took a spit test into a

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Speaker 1: weeks later, June twenty sixth, three o'clock, I get a

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Speaker 1: call and they're like, you have the Broca mutation. You

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Speaker 1: have a sixteen to ninety percent chance of getting breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: We suggest that you talk to your doctor about screenings

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Speaker 1: you're catching it beforehand. It was like, I can remember

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Speaker 1: caught it before. Although this is a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: have cancer, right, And she said, you do. We don't

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Speaker 1: know how bad it is. So had I not gotten

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Speaker 1: that preventive test, Which is why I'm shouting from the

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Speaker 1: if a genetic test is appropriate, I would not be

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Speaker 1: here today to be telling this story for Shannon and

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Speaker 1: dot com. So chemotherapy, I cold capped. So I was

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Speaker 1: And you know my messaging is just for early genetic

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Speaker 1: You have to ask for help. Nobody could do this

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Speaker 1: Make a decision how you're going to handle it. I

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Speaker 1: what are my wins today? Do I need to rest today?

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Speaker 1: Do I need to ask for help today? Do I

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Speaker 1: need to be my own best friend? Stay off of Google,

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Speaker 1: but pick your north star, like I do not crowdsource

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Speaker 1: for my decisions, whether it be about cancer or whether

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not. But at least you are not driving

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Speaker 1: yourself nuts. Because what you say to yourself is the

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Speaker 1: what you say to yourself, you're always listening. I watch

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Speaker 1: what I say to myself, and I just want to say,

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Speaker 1: like Shannon's family and friends, like it shouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: helping other people. I mean, I think and I don't

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Speaker 1: is one of my best friends and a total badass,

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Speaker 1: she only surrounds herself with badass people. Leslie's soon like

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Speaker 1: she didn't want this. She wanted to fight, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm doing that too, Shannon, And I hope I can

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Speaker 1: and continue this conversation. My biggest thing right now to

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Speaker 1: take from this is if your mother or father are

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Speaker 1: Call your doctor right now and just say, is hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you for help anyone listening. That's the biggest

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Speaker 1: to go through this and also reach out to me.

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Speaker 1: I am available on DM and thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me and letting my letting me share my story.

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Speaker 1: I promise on behalf of all survivors. I'll continue to

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Speaker 1: And so Jill Martin dot com is where you could

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Speaker 1: find me at Jill Martin is are my handles. I

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Speaker 1: made it very easy and I hope you'll My Sherpe

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Speaker 1: loungers are available with all your favorite teams and we

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Speaker 1: Joe Martin and it just makes the conversation, you know,

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Speaker 1: keep going. So thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: This was such an honor. I can't tell you. I

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Speaker 1: only wish that it happened when Shannon was still with us,

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Speaker 1: but maybe it was meant to be like this, and

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Speaker 1: she just wanted me to be able to continue the conversation.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to take that energetically and sending love

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Speaker 1: to everybody and thank you for having me.