1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: All right, we're about to do a show on the 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: need for people to go to prison inside the government. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: But let's talk about the why first, because that can 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: be that's really that's the main point of most. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: Of these things. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Why Well, crime and punishment it's been something that societies, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: all societies have wrestled with, well in the history of mankind. 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Hamer Abi, you've heard of Hamer Abi, doesn't matter if 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: you haven't heard of him. But he was ancient from 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: an ancient society. And Hamer Abbi was famous for what 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: they had, essentially a list of laws, a code. Hey, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: if you do this, you'll do this. You take out 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: someone's eye, will take out your eye, that kind of thing. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Why was that so famous? Well, it showed that every 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: society has tried to figure out. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: What do we deal with crime? What's right? 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: What's wrong we still do with it today? What's too harsh? 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: What's not harsh enough. If you have a murderer, should 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: you kill him, give him life in prison? Should you 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: torture him in the public square, pull his fingernails, I 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: leave him to starve to death, burn him alive? These 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: are real questions societies have dealt with throughout history. But 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: The reason societies have dealt with these questions is punishment 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: is necessary. 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: You have to have it. 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: Without some level of punishment, whether you're pulling fingernails out 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: or life in prison. Without some level of real, tangible punishment, 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: crime will simply run rampant. 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: That we know too studying human history. 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: You see it now, You see it now in America, 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: in big city after big city. Why are all these 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: crime numbers going up so much that they stopped reporting 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the numbers to the FBI. What do you think that is? 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Why do you think cities like New York stop reporting 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: the crime numbers to the FBI? They stopped prosecuting crime. 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Crime went up. You have to punish crime. Picture this, 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: picture this. You are aware, at least vaguely aware. I 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: would assume that at some point in time mid twentieth century, 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: the United States government became aware and angry about the 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: presence of the mafia, the Italian mafia LaCOSA Nostra here 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: in the United States of America. And once the United 42 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: States government took its eyes and focused on the Italian mafia, 43 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: they went after them doj FBI indictments, local police tasks, 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: task force, wire taps, you name it. They went after them. Now, 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: imagine this, Imagine this. Imagine the government went after the 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Italian mafia in the mid twentieth century. Like I said, 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: all the wire taps, all the documentation, Hey we've got 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: you on camera shooting somebody, all these things, and at 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: the end of all that, the government said, all right, 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: it's a lot of murder, drug dealing, prostitution, mister mafia, 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: don I wants your. 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: Letter of resignation today. It's a joke, isn't it. It's 53 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: not punishment. 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: What incentive would any of those people have to change 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: their ways if the punishment on the back end was 56 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: early retirement probation. Criminals don't change their ways for that. 57 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: That's not punishment. 58 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: The United States government is the largest, most well funded, 59 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: ongoing criminal enterprise on the planet today. 60 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: When you look at. 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: The various crimes the millions of government people have committed 62 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: most of those crimes against you, it's it could take 63 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: your breath away when you actually just consider all the 64 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: horrible things these people have done. Let's look at COVID alone. 65 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: That Look, we could sit here for three hours and 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: go over the examples. Let's look at COVID alone. The 67 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: United States government just started issuing rules to destroy businesses, 68 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: to destroy your child's education, to do things to control 69 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: your body. The United States government, the American president actually 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: at one point in time told the American people, this 71 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: was Joe Biden, that he was losing patience with us. 72 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: And then they announced Remember when they announced that you 73 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: would be fired if you didn't take a COVID vaccine. 74 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: You understand that alone. Pause that alone, that's tyrannical, that's insane, 75 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: that's criminal. And the people who pushed these crimes, the 76 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: people who did these crimes, it's not just that they 77 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: were never prosecuted. They laugh at the very idea that 78 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: they might be prosecuted. He was Bauci and her Cruz 79 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: told the Attorney general, you should be prosecuted. 80 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have to laugh at that. 81 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: I should be prosecuted. What happened on January sixth, Senator, 82 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: I have to laugh at that. 83 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: It's not just that the government is full of criminals, 84 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: it's that they operate without fear, with no fear whatsoever. 85 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: In fact, they're handsomely rewarded. Remember the things doctor Fauci did. 86 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: He not only tried to and successfully did, destroy the 87 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: careers of scientists who were saying, Hey, I don't think COVID. 88 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it came from a wet market. It 89 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: probably came from the lab over there. Doctor Fauci, that 90 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: evil little troll destroyed those people. 91 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: In the height of the pandemic. 92 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: He was the highest paid government employee, made more money 93 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: than the president, destroy lives, lying at every turn, wrecking 94 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: your business, your health, your child's health, without a care 95 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: in the world, and so carefree was he about the 96 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: whole thing, and it was so lucrative for him. 97 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: He's out there dreaming about the next one. 98 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: What is likely to happen, I don't know if it's 99 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: going to be next year or ten years, or fifteen 100 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: or twenty years from now. Is the emergence of another 101 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: respiratory disease. It may be another coronavirus, because we know 102 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: that coronaviruses, really mostly in bats, have the capability of 103 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: binding to receptors that are in humans. It could be 104 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: another flu. We're dealing with age five and one now, 105 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: which is bird flu, which has taken the somewhat disturbing 106 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: step of infecting mammals, namely cows and cats and other mammals, 107 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: which means it's adapting itself more do we human? So 108 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: my concern, well do is that whenever that happens, the 109 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: next outbreak will be of a respiratory disease that's easily transmissible, 110 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: that has a significant degree of morbidity. 111 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: And we are making this a little bit more dangerous 112 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: with the cuts and our attitude to its science. 113 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, can't cut any of my funding. 114 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: The next one's going to be deadlier. 115 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: It was heaven for these people, which brings me to 116 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, because look, the whole point of 117 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: this show is government people have to go to prison. 118 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Why hasn't that happened? It really hasn't happened. 119 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: I know, there's always a Bob Menendez who gets caught 120 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: with gold bars under his bed and stacks of cash 121 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: and his soup pockets. I know, But in general, why 122 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: don't these government people go to prison? 123 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: Well? 124 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: How many times during this show have you seen me 125 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: ask a United States Senator or a United States Congressman 126 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: what can be done to this person? Okay, this person lied, 127 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: this person did wrong? What can be done? What can 128 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: be done? And what do they say to me? Every 129 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: single time? Every single time they say, well, we referred 130 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: them to the DOJ for prosecution. Now it's up to them. 131 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: We referred them to the DOJ for prosecution. Now it's 132 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: up to them. The Department of Justice is supposed to 133 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: be the top law enforcement agency enforcing these laws, not 134 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: just against you, non government worker, against people inside of 135 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: the federal government, but instead, the Department of Justice under 136 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans has become the shield of government criminality 137 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: because they never, ever, ever actually prosecute government criminals. And 138 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I am starting to get very very concerned that Pambondi 139 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: is going to follow along the exact samees every other 140 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: age he did, from Eric Order to Bill Barr to 141 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Jeff's sessions that we could go on down the list. 142 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: You know why because instead of getting press conferences about 143 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: the FBI agent who's about to be marched off in chains, 144 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I get press conferences like this. 145 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 5: We will find out who you are and we will 146 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 5: come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrorist you better look 147 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: out because we're coming after you. And if you've committed fraud, 148 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 5: we're coming after you. You better watch out because we're 149 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: coming after you. Let me be very clear, if you 150 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 5: don't comply with federal law, you're going to be next. 151 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: Let this be a warning. You can run, but you 152 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: cannot hide. Justice is coming. 153 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: Justice is coming. Okay. 154 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if Alejandro majorcis you see he was DHS head, 155 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: you remember that, right, head of the Department of Homeland Security. 156 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: That puts him overboard, but ice, that puts him as 157 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: we'll call him top security guard if you will, for America, 158 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: and as top security guard of America, he forced open 159 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: the door, allowed as many foreigners as he possibly could 160 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: into the country. Criminals, rapist, murderers, drug dealers. He flew 161 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: as many as he could into the country. 162 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder if. 163 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: He's sitting around afraid that Pam Bondi's coming after him. 164 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: Let's check in with him. I am very proud of 165 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: what we did do. I would have liked to have 166 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: a wrestled with the question of communication and narration some more. 167 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like he's about to be in leg irons, 168 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: does it? 169 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. All that may have made you uncomfortable, 170 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: but I am right. We have a great show for 171 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: young Let's talk about your shoes and no, look it's me, 172 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not judging you for any kind of 173 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: fashion choices you've made. I wouldn't be qualified to do 174 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: so anyway. My wife has to talk me out of 175 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: wearing sweats. I'm worried about. 176 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: Your shoes though. 177 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: Your knees, your back, your hips, your feet, How do 178 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: they feel at the end of the. 179 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: Day, tired? Soar even that's your shoes, man, That's why 180 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: gravity to fire exists. G TOPHI. If you have to 181 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: shorten it up, it's shoes. But dunique shoes. 182 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: You see, they have this special technology in them that 183 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: makes it easier on your whole body as you walk around. 184 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Your crappy shoes are causing pain in your hips, in 185 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: your knees, in your feet, in your back. 186 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: Do you want to get rid of that? 187 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: Just try try one pair and I bet you'll own 188 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: five of them eventually. That's how incredible these things are. 189 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: They're miraculous. Listen, you want a nice deal, text Jesse 190 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: to nine one eight eight that gets you thirty percent 191 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: off orders one hundred and twenty bucks or more Jesse 192 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: to nine one eight eight. The State Department would be 193 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: a good place throwing people in prison. State Department has 194 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: been taking your money and politicking with it across the globe. 195 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: It's not even doing it domestically, it makes it maybe worse. 196 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: Joining me now to discuss the problems at the State Department. 197 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Mike Ben's, executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. Hey, Mike, 198 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: what have they been doing for well, the forty three 199 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: years of my lifetime over there at the State Department. 200 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 4: Well, they've been managing the American world empire. The State 201 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: Department really is at at the top of the pyramid 202 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: of power in the US government. It is where all 203 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: world affairs are effectively managed. Now, it's supposed to be 204 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: done so in conjunction with the White House through the 205 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 4: National Security Council, but it often has a mind of 206 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: its own, and this is exactly what's driving the massive 207 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 4: reorganization that was just announced at the State Department. And 208 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: I should note that Secretary of Rubio as well as 209 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy Darren Beatty, deserve 210 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 4: a massive round of applause and thank you from the 211 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: American people, in my view, for the actions taken last 212 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: week to eradicate the remnant of the Global Engagement Center, 213 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: which was really the first ever government censorship agency within 214 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: the US government explicitly designed to censor social media. It 215 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: had tucked itself away after its legal statutory sunset in 216 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: a group called ur FEME, which is our just means 217 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: public diplomacy. FEMI is the foreign influence malign influence. And 218 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: what they did is since they knew that there was 219 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: no way to fire these people there were about fifty 220 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: full time positions, there was no way to fire these 221 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: people without triggering a giant union fight and legal challenges, 222 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: they simply eradicated the entire office, as corporations do sometimes 223 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: to avoid lawsuits. They simply get rid of the role entirely, 224 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: and that has allowed a really seamless transition back to 225 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: a free speech focus. Although there are several other offices involved, 226 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: and that is part of what this reorganization is about. 227 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: There are one hundred and thirty two sub agencies within 228 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: the State Department that are now being eliminated per this 229 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: new reorganization, and these include things like the Countering Extremism capacity, 230 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: which was of course used to target every populous leader 231 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: on planet Earth. These include these human rights offices, which 232 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: are almost always an excuse to try to string up 233 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: people on charges and create predicates, whether real or often false, 234 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: in order to create a propaganda swing for an international 235 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: coalition to come in and bring in things like transitional 236 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: justice and these rule of law programs to legally target 237 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: political enemies. Now, what Secretary Rubio is saying is that 238 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: that capacity will remain, but it will be run out 239 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: of the US embassies rather than centrally at Foggy Bottom 240 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: at the Harry S. Truman Building, which is State Department HQ. 241 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: And I have my own thoughts about the nature of 242 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: this re org. I think that Secretary Rubio is absolutely correct. 243 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: When you look at the ORG chart of the State Department, 244 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: it's like looking at something between a Rubik's cube, Egyptian 245 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: hieroglyphics and an en run accounting sheet balance. Nothing adds up. 246 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: Everything takes way too long. There are too many cooks 247 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: in the kitchen. Secretary Rubio cited that to the decision 248 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: memos that he gets, they're often six or seven people 249 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: within just one of the dozens of ORG charts who 250 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: need to approve, which means that everything is like you 251 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: know it requires the consensus. Building means everything's done business 252 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: as usual because so many people need to sign off 253 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: on it. No one wants to wants to step out 254 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: and do something unusual, and so we just do the 255 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: same sort of usual democracy promotion blob craft, and it's 256 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: you know, packed with these dents terms in order to 257 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: make it palatable. Oftentimes that means you're sort of subtly 258 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 4: lying to the Secretary of State about what you're really 259 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: doing or wordsmithing in order to get approval to do 260 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: deceptive things. And so that is being lasered out. And 261 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: by structuring it is a real reorg. It allows the 262 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: firing of thousands of people who otherwise would be able 263 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 4: to sue you in court or contest the cause of 264 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 4: the firing. So I support it in theory. My concern 265 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: is by putting the power at the local embassy level, 266 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 4: it may allow the local embassies to deceive main state, 267 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: and that I think is a source of concern. 268 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: Mike, I'm going to ask kind of a thirty thousand 269 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: foot view question because I can actually see this same 270 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: question going through everyone's mind as they watch this. When 271 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: most people think about a state department, anyone's, but will 272 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: make it about ours. They think about a US embassy 273 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: in France, and what do they do. They put on 274 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: fancy dinners, they do diplomacy, right. They have a dinner, 275 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: they have a meeting, they talk about Trump's new trade policy. 276 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like at all what our State Department does. 277 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: Mike, Oh no, Now, well, you know, I think it 278 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 4: was Jeffrey Sachs who had this quote, which is, you know, 279 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 4: what is the only reason that the US is like 280 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: the only country on earth that's never been overthrown in 281 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 4: a revolution from inside itself? And the answer is because 282 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: the United States is the only country that doesn't have 283 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: a US embassy. What the US embassy does in a 284 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: foreign country is it it's responsible for handling all American 285 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: interests inside the country. So oftentimes, for example, if a 286 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: sensitive political figure gets arrested in the country, the embassy 287 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 4: will step in. Or if there are as you mentioned, 288 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: trade relations or some law impacting US interests, the State 289 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: Department will send a delegation. But the other thing the 290 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: State Department does it's embassy in a country is it 291 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: works with the political groups. It works with the civil 292 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: society organizations, It works with the NGOs, it works with 293 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: the unionions. It works with the judiciary through its rule 294 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: of law programs, So it works with the judges, It 295 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: works with the parliamentarians in addition to working with the president. 296 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: So because the State Department is tentacles into every aspect 297 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 4: of that country's life. It can manipulate every aspect of 298 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 4: that country's life in order to turn that country's institutions 299 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: against its government. And this is the main stock in trade. 300 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: This is how you see figures like Victoria Newland spending 301 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 4: thirty years at the State Department, serving as effectively the 302 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: angel of Death at Passover, just sort of going door 303 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: to door, country to country and delivering the hand of God, 304 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: which happens to be the Secretary of State's death notice 305 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: to a government that its democratic life has run out. 306 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: She was the under Secretary for Political Affairs at the 307 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 4: State Department, which is the worldwide head of all all 308 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: things related to political affairs in every country on planet Earth. 309 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: And political affairs, as you can imagine, is something that 310 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 4: touches every single one of these things. It's if we 311 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: don't like that country's politics, we can simply whip up 312 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: the public the Political Affairs Office, as well as the Democracy, 313 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: Human Rights and Labor Office, as well as whatever regional office. 314 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 6: The State Department is to. 315 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: Create this surround sound in that country's media, to create 316 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: the surround sound in that country's thought leadership through its universities, 317 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: it's legal scholars, it's judges, it's parliamentarians, it's business leaders, 318 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 4: until the whole country looks. 319 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 6: Like And this is the thing is people who live. 320 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 4: In these countries don't very rarely see it coming, or 321 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: if they do see it coming, they simply can't out 322 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: muscle the State Department's budget, which is often which is 323 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: of course supplemented at all times by USAID. The NGO 324 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: complex and often gets top up funding from the US 325 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: military through its Civil Military branch, which concerns civil affairs. 326 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 4: So it really is an orchestra conductor of all things 327 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 4: regime change. And my concern with the reorganization as it's 328 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: been articulated, and I'm sure more details will be forthcoming, 329 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: is I've seen these regional branches deceive Maine State in DC. 330 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 6: With my own eyes. 331 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: I don't like the idea of them getting more power 332 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 4: because I could see a small enclave at the embassy 333 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: if it's given more power, simply hiding what it's doing 334 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: or misreporting what it's doing to the main State Department 335 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: and thereby undermining the purpose of the whole reorganization. But 336 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: we'll see how it's actually structured. I am excited about 337 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: the direction things are taking. 338 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: Okay, can you lay that out for me, Mike, because 339 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: you've touched on that already a couple times, about how 340 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: these people at the State Department will just do whatever 341 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: they want instead of what the President wants, or even 342 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: maybe what the Secretary of State wants, or even what 343 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: the ambassador in that particular embassy wants. How does that work? 344 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: I got some I'm used to the civilian world. My 345 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: only government job was the Marine Corps. I didn't You 346 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: don't get to do whatever you want? 347 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Doesn't the boss watch what? 348 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 6: Well? 349 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: As you can imagine probably that if you can simply 350 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 4: look at the physiognomy of the average diplomat or State 351 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: Department employee, they're not exactly built for cage fights. But 352 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: one thing they are built for is clever deception. And 353 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: this is you know, if you've ever seen something like 354 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: Game of Thrones and are familiar with characters like little Finger, 355 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: that's pretty much the resume you need to submit to 356 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 4: get a job at the State Department. How much how 357 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 4: little Finger are you? And this practice of deception takes 358 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: many forms. First of all, you know, someone living in 359 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: Foggy Bottom d does not have direct boots on the 360 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: ground in a local country, whether that be Columbia, Peru, Ecuador, Ukraine, Bangladesh, 361 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: name any country on the map, and they are reliant 362 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: on the State Department to report back to them what 363 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 4: is going on, the local embassy to report back to 364 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: them what is going on, what happened in the conversations, 365 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: whether or not the actual field evidence to support what 366 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: the local embassy wants to do, comes from the local 367 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: NGOs working with that embassy, so they can engineer evidence. 368 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 4: They can also back channel with donors and stakeholders that 369 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: a Secretary of State may feel beholden to. So even 370 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 4: if the Secretary of State doesn't want to do something, necessarily, 371 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: things can be shaped in terms of the language, things 372 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: can be misreported. In terms of the evidence, they can 373 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: be greatly exaggerated. The local embassy can come in not 374 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: just with the delegation that sends to the foreign country, 375 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: but it can come in effectively with a delegation of 376 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: supporting congressmen, or supporting donors or supporting folks who can 377 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: put pressure on the Secretary of State to do something 378 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: they don't really want to do, and in conjunction with 379 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: being deceived about what the thing really entails. They end 380 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 4: up green lighting in a decision membo something that if 381 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: they had a clean conscience, or if it was presented 382 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: to them honestly, they would not or they weren't under 383 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: a tremendous amount of pressure at the coalition level, they 384 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: would not do. And you see this. Everyone in the 385 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: local embassy knows this. And the great game is to 386 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 4: get approval for things that you know you shouldn't be doing. 387 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 4: And this is what allows the long leash for the 388 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: pitbull to essentially escape into low Earth orbit and eat everything, 389 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: not just around the lawn, but even things way outside 390 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 4: in outer space where no dogs should belong. 391 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So, Mike, if you're dictator for a day or I, 392 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: we'll just set that aside. If you're Donald Trump, if 393 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: you're Marco Rubio, if you're how do you handle this? 394 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: This sounds I don't want to sound the fetus. This 395 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: sounds almost like an impossible problem to wrap your arms around. 396 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: Well, I actually think they're beginning the process of wrapping 397 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 4: their arms around it through this reorganization and through the 398 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: other actions I've seen them take, like the disclosure of 399 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: the Global Engagement Center, which was its own octopus to 400 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: wrap its arms around. The beauty of the reorganization is 401 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 4: it allows the mass firing of career career State Department 402 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: blob monsters who are who out flank because they so 403 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 4: outnumber the political appointees. There's all these little little fingers 404 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: are always running around trying to undercut the politicals. I 405 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: felt this myself when I was in there. And this 406 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: also remember that careers at the State Department they go 407 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: through Republicans, they go through Democrats, so they're familiar working 408 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: both sides of the aisle and the tactics and coalitions 409 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 4: they need from the inside in order to undercut the politicals. 410 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: And this is also meant that there has been no 411 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: pro Trump agenda folks at State Department who are mature 412 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 4: in the state, in the State Department, career civil service, 413 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: because anyone who's lasted thirty or forty years at the 414 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 4: State Department means that they've gone through Reagan, they've gone 415 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: through Clinton, they've gone through Obama, and they were put 416 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: in through one of those presidents. The most mature person 417 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: who's got a pro Trump agenda inside State as we speak, 418 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 4: could have even theoretically only been there for eight years, 419 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: which means there's a seniority match right now when you 420 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: look at the simple composition of folks who are either 421 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 4: Bushies or Biden nights, and there's really very there's almost 422 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: no civil service for Trump bites. And this reorganization will 423 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 4: actually allow that process to play out much much faster 424 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: because they will simply be outnumbered by a far fewer count. 425 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 6: And so, you know, one of the ways to you know, 426 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: dare I say, cut. 427 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: Down on the proportion of being outnumbered by these little 428 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 4: finger types is to have enough of your own in 429 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: there that it's effectively a fair fight. And so I 430 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: think this is an amazing step in that process. It's 431 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: coming just three months into the Trump administration. It never 432 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: happened at all during Trump one point zero, which is 433 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 4: what allowed the State Department to run roughshod over the 434 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: White House. So the fact that they're attacking it hard, 435 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: and they're attacking it early, just like they did with USAID, 436 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: just like they're doing at the National Science Foundation level, 437 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 4: and just like they're doing at the NGO front level, 438 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: I think is just a massive sign of encouragement to 439 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: the American people that they're delivering on promises. 440 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: Mike. 441 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: A final subject for this whole thing here, shifting years 442 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: away from the State Department is the Pentagon. 443 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 2: The Pentagon can't pass an audit. 444 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: Trump is out there talking about giving them a trillion 445 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: dollar budget, but this is a corrupt, criminal organization that 446 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: is obviously swindling money and sending it somewhere right. 447 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Oh, it's super nasty, and I am very 448 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: reticent about a trillion dollar Pentagon budget. If you're going 449 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: to do something like that, do it in year two 450 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: after you've got a massive reorg at the Pentagon that 451 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: shows reform at a fundamental level. I would like to 452 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: see the Pentagon come out and match the State Department's 453 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: reorganization project and say that they've cut one hundred and 454 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: fifty agencies. The fact is is the Pentagon is where 455 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: the real mundy is. Even at the state level. As 456 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: I mentioned the civil Military Affairs branch, they of the 457 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: Pentagon plays in civilian politics because the Pentagon says that 458 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: it has an interest in the laws of a country, 459 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: in the president of a country, in the political affairs 460 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: of a country, because that impacts the military aspects of 461 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: that country in terms of its partnerships, its capacities, whether 462 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: or not there's a US military base, whether or not 463 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 4: their own parliament is voting for funding to NATO or 464 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 4: for funding to a foreign war in partnership with the US. 465 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 6: And so the Pentagon also. 466 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: Plays regime change games in tandem with the State Department 467 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: in USAID. This is what Hillary Clinton called the three 468 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: d's diplomacy, Defense and developed and development meaning diplomacy, State Department, 469 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 4: Defense meaning Pentagon, USAI, D meaning development. And this three 470 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: D model is what has allowed so much of this, 471 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: So much of these Pentagon funds, which people think are 472 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 4: going to you know, buy tanks and bullets, they end 473 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: up going into buying senators and congressmen and NGOs. And 474 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: so this is a massive, massive problem. And you know, 475 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: by some counts, the you know, the Street reported a 476 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: thirty five trillion dollar accounting black hole in the Pentagon 477 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty. If if those numbers are true, 478 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: that would be larger than the entire US national debt, 479 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: just with the amount of money that's gone missing from 480 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: the Pentagon, which is just a stunning figure. And I 481 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: don't like the idea of cutting USAID, reorganizing the State Department, 482 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: and then having the Defense Department offset all of those 483 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: gains by having its own civil military folks take up 484 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: the function that used to be done by State and USAID. 485 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: So we really should have a reorganization announced to the 486 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 4: Pentagon that goes through the same process. It evades this 487 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: whole legal challenge by simply eliminating functions entirely, eliminating sub 488 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: agencies entirely, and resulting in mass firings in the process. 489 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: That will allow some evening out of the composition of 490 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: the internal careers at the Pentagon, which has that same 491 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: problem as I mentioned, through the civil service that's at 492 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: State and USAID. 493 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Mike, We've got a lot of problems. Thank you for 494 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: joining us and laying them all out for us. I 495 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother. All Right, Steve Days is going to 496 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: join us talk a little bit about this AGSSS stuff 497 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: and more. Next, I love my cell phoned company. I 498 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: love it because, look, I respect Vietnam veterans a lot, 499 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you a lot for what they 500 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: went through. But there's this ultra cool, amazing little branch 501 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: of Vietnam veteran that would be the SOG guys. We're 502 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: talking the Green berets behind enemy lines, straight out of 503 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: the movies right drop these guys in the middle of nowhere, 504 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: and so many of them died, and just the craziest 505 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: missions in the world. You know, the CEO of pure 506 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: Talk did two tours with Mac VSG and Vietnam. 507 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: I want to know how a. 508 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Company gets this patriotic, hires Americans. That's how I love 509 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: pure Talk. They'll save you money. They're on the same 510 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: five gene network. You don't need a rise and you 511 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: don't need AT and T. You don't need T mobile. 512 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: Switch to pure Talk. It's easy, keep your phone, keep 513 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: your number, puretalk dot com, slash jessetv. 514 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 7: We're also welcoming back former service members who were wrongly 515 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 7: forced to leave the military. More than eighty seven hundred 516 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 7: service members were involuntarily separated or not taking an experimental 517 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 7: COVID nineteen vaccine. 518 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: Others were more. 519 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 7: Informally pushed out or decided to get out. We are 520 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 7: welcoming actively back those warriors of conscience. We set letters out, 521 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 7: we're seeking them out. We want them back. They never 522 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 7: should have been forced to come back. Quickly, Personal and 523 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 7: Readiness Department is working in real time to make that 524 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 7: process more and more efficient, more and more direct. Every 525 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 7: single day. 526 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: It's awesome. I can't tell if it makes me happy 527 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: or angry. I'm happy about Pete doing it. I'm happy 528 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: that Trump administration's doing it. But it just brings back 529 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: all these old anger sharks inside of me, remembering that 530 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: we just kicked out thousands of our most patriotic citizens 531 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to stroke when they were twenty 532 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: five years old. Joining me now my friend Steve Dace, 533 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: host of the incredible shit show, The Steve Days Show. Okay, Steve, 534 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm happy or mad about all this. 535 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: It just brings back all that COVID tyranny, and I 536 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: really need somebody to go to prison. 537 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: Steve. 538 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 8: I don't think you're I don't think you're alone in that, Jesse. 539 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 8: And ultimately, you know you and I are both parents, 540 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 8: and anybody who's been a parent for more than approximately 541 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 8: five minutes realizes that without consequences, you get more of 542 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 8: what you've essentially incentivized with your lack of action. I 543 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 8: think we also need to understand the level of bureaucracy 544 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 8: that people like peaks at Pete Hegseeth are up against. 545 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 8: I mean, for example, a buddy of mine is Davis Johnson. 546 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 8: He was one of the very first attorneys that got 547 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 8: into this on behalf of these eight thousand plus soldiers 548 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 8: that were being really purged from the military for failure 549 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 8: to you know, be an experimental specimen for a non 550 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 8: authorized vaccine. And he was not happy with the initial 551 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 8: rollout of President Trump's executive order, but he stayed patient 552 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 8: and persistent. He was respectful but persu and then you know, 553 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 8: Pete came back with an ancillary statement. He referred to 554 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 8: it as an unlawful order, which now gives the attorneys 555 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 8: like Davis all the standing they need because what was 556 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 8: happening is a lot of the bureaucracy. Jesse was individually 557 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 8: still screwing with these members in their attempts to come 558 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 8: back by claiming, well, you still violated a lawfulitic, so 559 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 8: we don't have to give this to you. I mean, 560 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 8: they did not want to fulfill Trump's executive order. The bureaucracy, right, 561 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 8: And so I would imagine people like Pete Heseth, people 562 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 8: like Dan Bongino. I bet their phones are full of 563 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 8: people that know them and are friends of them, like us, 564 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 8: texting them all the time. Hey you see this, you 565 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 8: see this? You see this, You see this. There's literally 566 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 8: twenty thousand things these guys probably get hit up on 567 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 8: just from the people that like them, on the stuff 568 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 8: they could do every day, on top of the bureaucracy 569 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 8: that's trying to screw them and knife them because they 570 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 8: hate us at the exact same time. And so you know, 571 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 8: I know this. I've lost over one hundred pounds in 572 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 8: my lifetime. It didn't gain that weight overnight. I'm not 573 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 8: going to lose it overnight. People need to go to prison. 574 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 8: I'm just not sure exactly what is the reasonable expectation 575 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 8: to get to that point when we're still in the 576 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 8: process of even undoing all the evil that was done. 577 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 2: Steve. 578 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you just said. The problem 579 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: is for the American people when we've reached peak levels 580 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: of abuse from the government, censorship, COVID stuff. 581 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: All this other stuff. 582 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: We're at the point now, Steve, where it really doesn't 583 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: matter what you say, or what I say or anything 584 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: like that. 585 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 2: The people are going to demand a scalp at some time. Agree. 586 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm several scalps. They simply will. There's nobody can talk 587 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: them down from that. They've seen enough where do we 588 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: go from here. 589 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 8: Well, that's what we're trying to determine. And right now, 590 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 8: given where we're at as a country, we're kind of 591 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 8: a godless culture. So the idea of a constitutional republic 592 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 8: is just not achievable. We have a broken social compact 593 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 8: that almost half the country doesn't want to live the 594 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 8: way that our constitutional republic was framed and formed. And 595 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 8: so on one end, you have people that want the 596 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 8: total state, They want the state in whom we live 597 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 8: and breathe, and in response to that, we are we 598 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 8: are now, you know, turning to I guess what I 599 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 8: would call red caesars, I would say the governor of 600 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 8: Florida was one of those. President Trump is certainly the 601 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 8: o G version of this. You've alluded to this when 602 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 8: you've talked about if the right does not get the 603 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 8: recompense that it deserves, where it will turn next Trump, 604 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 8: frankly with without the stuff that you're talking about and 605 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 8: that is needed. You are correct. Trump will actually be 606 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 8: the more the most benevolent form of this. I mean, 607 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 8: if you listen to the rhetoric of JD. Vance for example, Uh, 608 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 8: he's more maybe more tactical uh than than what Trump 609 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 8: has been in the past, but his rhetoric on these 610 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 8: issues and what needs to be done about them, frankly, 611 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 8: is often way more brutal in terms of substance than 612 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 8: even the stuff that Trump says. 613 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 614 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 8: And and I think that is a that is a 615 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 8: window to the soul of what's going to happen here. 616 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, Tucker Carlson likes to say, the 617 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 8: iron law of the universe bends to justice. 618 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:53,959 Speaker 2: Uh. 619 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 8: Sooner or later there will be justice. That that is, 620 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 8: that is the arc of history. People will demand it 621 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 8: peaceably or otherwise. So you know, the problem this administration 622 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 8: has right now is they have a one term president, 623 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 8: a congress. Do you even know what a congress is, Jesse? 624 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 8: Do we even have a second branch of government. They 625 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 8: have worked forty days and been off thirty nine, all right, 626 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 8: And so they're literally doing nothing, which might be good 627 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 8: given how feckless they are. They might just get in 628 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 8: the way if they tried to do something, okay, So 629 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 8: basically it's the Trump administration versus the entire imperial armada. 630 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 8: That's essentially what it is. Right There's no backup plan. 631 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 8: There's very few governors that are really interested in getting 632 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 8: into this fight on a substantive level in their own states. 633 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 8: And so we're going to be frustrated by the lack 634 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 8: of what this administration, even on its best days, will 635 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 8: be able to accomplish, and that frustration is going to 636 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 8: have our side turning to increasingly aggressive figures. I agree 637 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 8: with you on that. 638 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of justice, doctor Fauci, this is one of those things, 639 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: Steve that I mean, I get these emails, same one 640 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: as you get, Man, parents who lost the child, parents 641 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: who were injured, kids were injured, kids who. 642 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: Missed a graduation. 643 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 1: I realize half the country still worships this vicious little trouble, 644 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: but the other half of the countries watching him get 645 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: fat and rich in retirement and give press conference after 646 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: press conference about how he has no regrets. Every time 647 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: I see doctor Fauci speak and say something like that, 648 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: I say to myself, well, that's one step closer to 649 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: a dictator. That's the kind of stuff people can't take. 650 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 2: Man of me too, I can take it. Listen. 651 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 8: As far as I know, I'm the only person that's 652 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 8: written to best selling books about the scandemic. So I've 653 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 8: gotten to the point I've had to mute him in 654 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 8: my accounts. I can't look at him. It gets me 655 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 8: to a point of bile. It turns me into a 656 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 8: person I really don't want to be. I've done everything 657 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 8: I could do, Okay, I exhausted every avenue I possibly could. 658 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 8: To have some kind of reckoning on this, you know. 659 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 8: I think Pete hegseth when he put out that video 660 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 8: statement the other day, Jesse saying, Hey, we're sorry, but 661 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 8: what would happen to these military members? You got screwed. 662 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 8: It was wrong, the order was unlawful. It shoudn't have happen. 663 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 8: And I think, is that the first time a member 664 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 8: of our federal government has said anything like that remotely 665 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 8: close to that? I think it might be. 666 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: And think about that. 667 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 8: And Pete wasn't even in power when any of that happened, 668 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 8: and he's the first person to say something, you know. 669 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 8: And so I see it in my feed too. I Mean, 670 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 8: I see a lot of people who love Robert F. 671 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 8: Kennedy Junior. It's like, hey, it's day sixty eight. Hey 672 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 8: it's day seventy two. Hey it's day seventy five. Why 673 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 8: aren't the COVID shots taking off the market yet? Okay, 674 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 8: so you're right, people's patience level, particularly the people that 675 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 8: are the most engaged, is the most fraid it has 676 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 8: ever been. Okay, And that energy will not just dissipate 677 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 8: on its own. I mean, that's just not how human 678 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 8: nature works. That energy will either get justice through the 679 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 8: peaceable process. That is how history books work. People will 680 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 8: adjudicate these things through the peaceable process, or they'll use 681 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 8: the unpeaceable processes to do so. That's just human history. 682 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 8: But that energy just never evaporates and goes away untreated. 683 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: That brings me to Pam Bondy, Steve, and I am 684 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: not anti Pam BONDI. I'm very undecided on Pam Bondy. 685 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 2: But I. 686 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: Have this sense, this spidey sense keeps tingling my arm. 687 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: Hair is sticking up as we speak, Steve, I feel 688 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: like we're being played. I get press conference after press 689 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: conference about a drug bust, which is good. You know, 690 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: I love drug busts. We had one who was yesterday 691 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: day before. We have an anti Christian bias task force. 692 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 2: That sounds great. 693 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: All I'm all about tackling anti Christian bias. It feels 694 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: like I'm being given little little tidbits of things they 695 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: think I want because I'm not gonna get any of 696 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: the things I really want, Steve, which is government people 697 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: going to prison. 698 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: Am I wrong? 699 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 8: I don't think you're wrong, And I don't think given 700 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 8: her political track record, Pampondi has been around for a 701 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 8: long time, and and she's not like Pete Hexeth or 702 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 8: Bongino or any of those guys that have long track 703 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 8: records of pushing back against the system and standing with 704 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 8: the grassroots and the base. She's like a lot of Republicans. 705 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 8: Most Republicans aren't Rhinos, and most Republicans aren't us. Most Republicans, 706 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 8: frankly are If you make it easy for me and profitable, 707 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 8: I will do the right thing. But if it requires 708 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 8: any exertion at all, any risk of even a morsel 709 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 8: a scentilla political capital, I cannot be bothered. I'm like 710 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 8: Bartleby the scribner, I would prefer not to okay, And 711 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 8: that's where she was, and you know, she actually comes 712 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 8: out of more of the Romney mainstream Republican wing. I 713 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 8: thought what happened a couple of months ago with the 714 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 8: quote unquote Epstein files struck me as someone who is 715 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 8: sort of playing up a stereotype of Trump influencers and 716 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 8: the Trump social media base what they think it is. 717 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 8: But they're not used to being with those people, so 718 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 8: they don't really know who they really are. And they 719 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 8: sort of gave them a karaoke version of it and 720 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 8: it absolutely blew up in their faces, you know, And 721 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 8: so I can see why after that, you're getting a 722 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 8: feeling like I'm being kind of patronized here. You're giving 723 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 8: me morsels of what you think that I want, as 724 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 8: opposed to I want the real thing I want I want. 725 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 8: I mean, I want this straight no chaser. I don't 726 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 8: want light beer, okay, I mean I mean I want 727 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 8: a thick brown logger that one of them will put 728 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 8: me down on my back. That's what I want. And 729 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 8: you're not alone. And I think she's gonna have to 730 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 8: deliver something. I mean, the President just got asked about 731 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 8: this again just yesterday and was adamant, Hey, yeah, we're 732 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 8: working on this. So I think that was the maybe 733 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 8: the one big messaging misstep this White House has had 734 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 8: so far, and it was a big one because they 735 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 8: misstepped their own base. And this next time, whenever they 736 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 8: say they're gonna give this stuff to us, they better 737 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 8: have something. What I don't understand, Jesse. Is this Gleaine 738 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 8: Maxwell's in prison for sex trafficking to somebody? They have 739 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 8: some name, They have a name of somebody. Otherwise, why 740 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 8: is she in prison? I mean, you can't human traffic 741 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 8: to yourself, okay, and so she human traffic to somebody 742 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 8: that could at least give us the name. Give us 743 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 8: the name then of a foreigner, someone they couldn't arrest, 744 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 8: but they know that she trafficked to as like a 745 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 8: good an earnest down payment, like in any major transaction, 746 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 8: you put money grow, you put a down payment down. 747 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 8: You're to show you're sincere about paying this thing off later. 748 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 8: Give us just one single name of somebody Glene Maxwell 749 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 8: sex traffic too, just to show us that you're actually 750 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 8: serious about this. Because she can't be in prison for 751 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 8: sex trafficking to nobody, and if she is well, then 752 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 8: I guess the Supreme Court should go ahead and overturn 753 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 8: her conviction on appeal, which is what they're considering right now. 754 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 8: She either said there to be a sex trafficker, brother, 755 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 8: there's got to be a sex traffick eat right. 756 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: Wow, give us an Italian. 757 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: Everyone's always game from one of those that's what I 758 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: want to see, Steve. Thank you, brother, I appreciate it 759 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: pretty much. 760 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: Final thoughts next. 761 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: I love sleeping. I sleep good all the time. I've 762 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: looked I'm a natural sleeper, but as somebody who is 763 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: a natural sleeper, I've always had to be very careful 764 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: when I take something to sleep, because I have my 765 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: moments where I've had to much caffeine or the day 766 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: was too stressful. If I take really anything, anything I've 767 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: ever taken my entire life, I'll sleep forever, and then 768 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll wake up and I'll feel who were horrible every 769 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: single time? But I wake up and I want to die. 770 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: That's why I love dreampowder from Beam so much. I 771 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: feel good, I feel rested, not groggy. That's because it's natural. 772 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: You see. 773 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: It's a cup of hot chocolate, which is delicious. I 774 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: love hot chocolate anyway, but it's natural. It as melatonin 775 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: and rachi and all kinds of things in it. It 776 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: puts you to sleep, You'll stay asleep and you'll wake 777 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: up feel unrested. Go to Shopbeam dot com, slash Jesse Kelly, 778 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: get yourself a bag. Today government people have to go 779 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: to prison and it's not because I'm vengeful, not because 780 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm vindictive. 781 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: It's because I want my country to prosper. 782 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: I want my country to remain and we cannot do 783 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: that with criminals running the United States of America. Criminals 784 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: have to face punishment, not just the gang banger either, 785 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: not just the illegal either, not just the government. Criminals 786 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: should be subjected to the exact same law as you 787 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: and I are. If anything, you could argue they should 788 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: be subjected to tougher punishment than you and I are. 789 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: If we live in a country where they can just 790 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: commit crimes without consequence, then we don't live in a 791 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: country anymore. That's a fact. All right, We'll do it again.