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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorite's the podcast. Listen. We've got a

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Speaker 1: real legend here in the studio today, Paul Laduka, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing, Paully and doing so well? Chad. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw listen, Darren Revel maybe the

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Speaker 1: fastest man on the planet. There is now diet Coke

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Speaker 1: all over black Jack Fracture's microphone, and I would want

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Speaker 1: to say that diet Coke is not only have high

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Speaker 1: fruit corn syrup and has some other stuff in there

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Speaker 1: as well. A voting Paul, Welcome to the Favorite. This

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Speaker 1: is this is a new experience because for the first

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Speaker 1: time ever, me and Paul are in studio together, looking

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Speaker 1: each other in the eye as we do this. It's

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Speaker 1: been a journey for us, but we're here. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: we have a special guest joining us right now, Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: collaborator at the Action Network, Man of the World in

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Speaker 1: the Borough of Brooklyn. He just got a haircut today,

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Speaker 1: so I hope you can hear that when it comes through. Danny,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing, buddy. I am feeling fresh, I

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Speaker 1: am feeling energized, and I am legitimately disappointed I'm not

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Speaker 1: in the studio with you. I am too Danny, I

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Speaker 1: am too. But the first thing I have to ask

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Speaker 1: you about, um. Chad Milman two point oh mentioned it

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Speaker 1: off the top of the show. Darren Raveled did a

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Speaker 1: video yesterday and I have to talk about it because

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Speaker 1: it's disturb herbed me to a great degree. Um. He

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Speaker 1: went to Nike's headquarters here in New York City and

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Speaker 1: ran a twenty yard dash in what was it four

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Speaker 1: He was not picking up speed, so it was not

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Speaker 1: So Paul, Paul thinks that that time maybe more like

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Speaker 1: what nine? Yes, he was down, he was slowing down. Um.

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Speaker 1: So uh, Danny, have you ever seen a human being

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Speaker 1: home planet were like, what is it like? What what

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Speaker 1: do human beings look like when they run. The alien

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Speaker 1: equivalent of he is an alien trying to replicate human

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Speaker 1: form unsuccessfully. I don't even know how to respond to that.

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Speaker 1: Isn't the objects supposed to be your Your feet are

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Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen anybody power walk run. That's true.

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Speaker 1: If you told me, If you told me Darren has

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Speaker 1: more sense. Okay, he's down two pretty major muscle group. Well,

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Speaker 1: for their lives. I am so glad we had Danny

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Speaker 1: all right, Danny, So thank you for helping us breakdown

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Speaker 1: that video. But one of the reasons I wanted to

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Speaker 1: have you on Today's because you are the star of

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Speaker 1: a new podcast from the people over at Wondering and

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Speaker 1: the brilliant minute Blue Duck Media uh called Sports Wars uh.

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Speaker 1: it's pretty great. It drops you back into the nineties

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Speaker 1: when you Danny, when you do these things, do you

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Speaker 1: in Long Island. All right, uh uh, what are we

427
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Speaker 1: talking about? The Clippers and the Warriors. So basically they

428
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Speaker 1: beat him with pick They steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant got beat by Montres Harrold and Lou Williams on

430
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: the pick and roll the last two minutes of the game.

431
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: That's who won the game. Lou Williams won the game

432
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: and they pick and rolled him to death. They got

433
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Speaker 1: the big lead, and then Golden State got uh got

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Speaker 1: the lead back late and then Lou Williams decided to

435
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Speaker 1: take the game over with an elbow jumper to put

436
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: him up one. And then it was a nice pass

437
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: to Harold for for a dunk, and then Harold had

438
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: a giant block on a layup. He was He was

439
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: giant last night and he's been great Soul series. And

440
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Speaker 1: Doc that's what I love about Doc Rivers when things

441
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: are working. He left him on the floor. He comes

442
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: off the bench and and it was those two guys

443
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: were picking and rolling and they were scoring at will

444
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: and every punch that sort of Golden State through at them.

445
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: They came back and like I told you last night,

446
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: name another team in the West it's gonna win two

447
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: games against Golden State, regardless whether the Clippers lose this

448
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: series in the next game. Winning two games, Nobody thought

449
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: that was gonna happen, regardless of whether Golden State had bodecausins. No,

450
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: And I think that Patrick Beverley could not shoot. My daughter.

451
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: He could play some defense, but he can't hit. Every

452
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: time you see Patrick Beverley shooting a wide open three,

453
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Speaker 1: it's ill advised. There's a reason he's wide open. Um

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Speaker 1: never never, I mean, listen, I agree with you. I

455
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: don't think the Spurs or the Nuggets present a real

456
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Speaker 1: challenge to the Warriors to win two games. Portlands might

457
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: get too. I mean maybe, um, if everything breaks right,

458
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Speaker 1: But the Clippers are doing a hell of a job now.

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00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: I just I just think that Golden State has these

460
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: lapses where they'll lose these games and then so often

461
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Speaker 1: the next game they bounced back in their their focus,

462
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: they're ready to get it. And that's just they're on

463
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Speaker 1: the road. Now it's game six. I feel like I

464
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: feel like Golden State comes out and just just takes

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Speaker 1: the Clippers to the wood shed. Why I get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like Steve Kerr's uh speeches that he has.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, um, this would be a good time to

468
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Speaker 1: turn up, would be a good time to maybe turn

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Speaker 1: up to defense and uh, when we get the rebound,

470
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Speaker 1: maybe we'll get it on transition and give it to

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Speaker 1: like the seven best shooters we have in the league

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Speaker 1: and maybe one of those will hit a three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were watching the game last night. They do the

474
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Speaker 1: inside the huddle thing on T n T and it

475
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Speaker 1: was just I thoting for somebody to put on his

476
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: speech was was just in a straight monotone, like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: this would be a good time to like turn it

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Speaker 1: up right now. Um, but you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: What is that? Do they need to hear it? Don't matter?

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00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: Does it matter whose coaching because he's got the vape

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00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: pen on the side't matter. It's California, it's legal, alright.

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Speaker 1: So that's the Western Conference. Let's touch on the East

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Speaker 1: a little bit. The matchups there set. We've got Philadelphia

484
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: and Toronto and Boston and Milwaukee. Okay, let's start with

485
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Speaker 1: the Celtics. Celtics sweep the Pacers. They look really good

486
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Speaker 1: doing it. Honestly, the best they've looked all season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: without the Oladipos. Any chance they beat the Bucks, I'm

488
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna say no, there's obviously a chance. You've got Brad Stevens.

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Speaker 1: They played good defense, but the Bucks are rolling. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the Bucks played the Pistons, who realist? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna carre the Pistons to compare the Pistons

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Speaker 1: to the Pacers without Oladipo. Yeah, the Pacers. I mean,

493
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Speaker 1: the Pacers are way better than the Pistons. Yeah, Pistons stink.

494
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: But here's my own party. Can't walk one day and

495
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Speaker 1: then the next day about the Sixers. Yet, I thought

496
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Speaker 1: you said you were talking about the Sixers Celtics, Bucks

497
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: the Celtic. I already told you the Bucks are gonna win.

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Speaker 1: That's over. Go to the next series. Okay, moving on,

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Speaker 1: Sixers Raptors, go ahead, Joel and beat. He couldn't walk

500
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Speaker 1: one series and he comes out and he's in Durant

501
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: the next game. Alright, So Sixers Raptors, what do you

502
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Speaker 1: What do you have there? What do you like? I

503
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: know you're in love with Kawhi Leandard. You literally want

504
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: to propose to Khi Lanard? No you do, No, I

505
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: don't propound pronounce your love for kwais leanderd Now, look,

506
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Speaker 1: I think he's probably like the third best player in

507
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Speaker 1: the NBA. But okay, who's the other's Lebron and Durant?

508
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: Don't say Durant Mosquito bites, son of a bitch? Wow? Alright,

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Speaker 1: um your words. Um, I think he's probably like the

510
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Speaker 1: third best player in the NBA. But and I like

511
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Speaker 1: Toronto a lot, I do. I think they're deep, They've

512
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: got a great bench, But I still like the Sixers.

513
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: If Ebad is playing every game, If and beads not

514
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: playing every game, this is this is a waste of time,

515
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: Like he has to be on the floor. This this

516
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: nonsense of him sitting two games out of five out

517
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: it has to end, Like the guy's got to be

518
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: on the floor because otherwise Toronto is just too deep.

519
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: But I think this series probably has seven games written

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Speaker 1: all over it, and you're still sticking with the Sixers

521
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: winning the East. I think the Sixers win the whole

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00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: God damn, think, oh my god, you need clinical hell.

523
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: I think that is the best starting five in basketball

524
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: with J J J. Yeah, JJ Reddick should scare you.

525
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: Why shouldn't he break it down? Okay, Ben Simmons very

526
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: good point guard. Terrible shooter, but he's a good point

527
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: great part guard. Could not hit a shot left handed

528
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: or right. I don't even know does he shoot with

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00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: both hands? He shooting free throw? A Rick Berry haven't

530
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: watched something compared to the Warriors, right, Draymond Green isn't

531
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: a good shooter? Who's starting at the five for them? Now?

532
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Andrew Bogett? What is he? Forty two off the Australian League?

533
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: He can't shoot either. The Warriors have two guys that

534
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: can't shoot. Who I just told you, Boget Green? Yeah,

535
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: they also got two guys are the best shooters in

536
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Speaker 1: the league. Okay, Tobias Harris is wildly underrated over Gay

537
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: Butler Jimmy but has had four points in Game one.

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00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Joel and Beatles. Stretch them out, Yeah, I like the Sixers.

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00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: The only thing joint be stretching out out of those

540
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: freaking careful, be careful. I thought that was going somewhere

541
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: else alright, So stout Achilles. That was NBA talk. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on to the Stanley Cup playoffs because that's been

543
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: a wild That was really fun having the under with

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00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: the Vegas Nights. Paul Paul. Listen, listen, Let's just let's

545
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: just let's just give the eulogy for the Vegas Nights

546
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: right now. Great season, great season. They were up three

547
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Speaker 1: one in that series. They lose Game five on the road.

548
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: They lose Game six at home, where Martin Jones for

549
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: the Sharks made fifty nine saves. Game seven happens there,

550
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: up three nothing in the third period, a bad penalty

551
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: call by the referee to get a five minute major

552
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: on Cody Egan. It's a bad call. It shouldn't happen.

553
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: The referee didn't see the play. He just said it

554
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: looked bad. You can't give a major interjective player on that.

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00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Having said that, and everyone knows is my love for

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00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: the Golden Knights, you can't give up four goals in

557
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: five minutes like what. That is a total and complete breakdown.

558
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: To give up four goals in five minutes, I don't

559
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: care that you're shorthanded. They killed back to back penalties

560
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: in the first period and barely gave up a shot.

561
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: They gave up four goals in five minutes, still managed

562
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: to force overtime another one um and then lose the

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00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: game in overtime. Vegas deserve to lose that game the

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00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: way they played. UM still a terrible call, but you

565
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: made a great point this morning when we were talking.

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00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: Every division winner has been eliminated in the Stanley Cup playoffs.

567
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: We have no division winners left after the first round.

568
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely insane. Um our own Lauren Joffe tweeted out, since

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00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: she went to the bathroom, they're up three nothing. She went,

570
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: came out there down in for three like it was insane,

571
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Speaker 1: And I was literally in the span of a few

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Speaker 1: minutes it really was, because I had played the game

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Speaker 1: under six and I came back act and then it

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00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: was fourth. I could not believe you're going into the

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Speaker 1: third period to nothing, and here's golden. I didn't even

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00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: call you, and I even told you last night. I

577
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna let this one sit on black

578
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: Check's mind for a couple days. You're in a bad place. See,

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Speaker 1: I'll get a friend. I am. You're the best. See.

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00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: I waited a couple of days before I consoled and

581
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: you to say that the Black Knights suck the Golden Knights.

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00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: It's not Army. Oh sorry, d Army did cover buried

583
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: Houston And listen, I'm gonna say this I think San

584
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: Jose wins the Western Conference. At this point, I thought

585
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: whoever won that game was going to win the Western Conference.

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Speaker 1: San Jose is the best team left in the West.

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00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a buyer on the on the Stars. I'm

588
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: certainly not buying the Avalanche. St. Louis tough, but San

589
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: Jose to me is the best team left in the West.

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00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a quick question, please, you'd like

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Speaker 1: to own a ticket on the New York Islanders. Woudn't you? Yeah?

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00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Kind of would, kind of would because I listen, the

593
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: capitals are gone, the light that you're gone, the maple

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00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: leafs are gone. The Islanders are getting Are they like

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00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: second or third choice to win this now? I mean

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00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: they've got to be. I haven't seen the updated odds

597
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: this morning, but the Islanders. The Islanders now will only

598
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: have to go on the road to Boston should they

599
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: play them in the conference finals. Boston's getting Columbus. The

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Islanders are getting Carolina, which is a great matchup for them.

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00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: The Islanders defense is the best in hockey bar none.

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00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I I think the path is really there for them.

603
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: It's awesome. We think John Tavaris is doing right now.

604
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Um counting his money in Toronto. I don't know. I mean, listen, better, listen.

605
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: He should be bitter. I mean, he should be piste off.

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00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: You left this team presumably because you didn't think they

607
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: were really going to do anything. Last year he was there,

608
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: They stunk. They hire Barry Trots, and now all of

609
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: a sudden they go from the worst defensive hockey to

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00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: the best defense in hockey. He's eliminated and there in

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00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: the second round. I mean, you know, sometimes it happens.

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some other people in New York should

613
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: realize that trade a superstar to get a good team.

614
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Heads and Mets should have treaded David right about five

615
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: years ago. He's a good friend of yours, and listen,

616
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: and I said it five years ago, and they've treaded

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00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: backwards since. Sometimes you gotta let go thanks. Sometimes sometimes

618
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: the plays over black jack, alright, Paul Lduca cutting bait

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00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: um All right? So it talks to me, Stanley Cup playoffs.

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Speaker 1: What do you have now in the finals? What do

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00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: you think? Where are you putting your money on a

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00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: future ticket? If I had a future ticket right now,

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00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: right now, I'd probably go Columbus. Are you out of

624
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: your fucking mind. They're playing Boston, They're gonna get what exactly.

625
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: And I hate everybody from Boston. So I'm rooting in

626
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: for Columbus. People in Boston are gonna really start to dislike.

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: The problem is is like everybody in New York City

628
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: is a Bruin fan. It's crazy they the Island fan

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00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: or a Bruin fan, like, oh Bruins, this Bruin that

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00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: everybody knows a Bruin fan. I'm tired of everybody raising

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: up a banner in Boston. Okay, I mean, all right,

632
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: fair enough, the Columbus Clippers haven't raised up a band

633
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: banner in a long time. Okay, there's nothing in Columbus.

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00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: You ever been to Columbus? No. I can get a

635
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Speaker 1: good Hamburger. That's about it. Let me tell something. I

636
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: have no interest in going to Ohio Ohio Steaks, and

637
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you're wrong. Ciota Downs maybe one of

638
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: the best O t B s you'll ever go. You're

639
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: giving this advice on O t B. Listen. This is like, listen,

640
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: you want to learn how to bet horses or go gamma,

641
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: go to Siota Downs. I don't need to go to

642
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Sioda down to in Ohio, Columbus, to go to an

643
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: O t B to bet on horses. I could go

644
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: to the race palace in Sayas and hang out with

645
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: Mike Frances you know what next next, that's true, and

646
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: you can you can watch my gift free tickets out

647
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: to the waitresses here. Well you should do is in

648
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: in Columbus, Ohio. I mean, I'm telling you it is legit.

649
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: O t B. Legit or you can go to like

650
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: Thistle Downs or I think it's funny how I have

651
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: a burgeoning feud with Ohio. You've got one with Boston.

652
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're just turning, turning the cities off. I

653
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: don't have a left and right. Here's a problem. I

654
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: don't have a feud with Boston because Boston fans and

655
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: met fans get along, because what do we haven't the

656
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: Yankees exactly right. It's the enemy of my enemy is

657
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: my friend. Whatever you said, I thought that that might

658
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: put you in a prethel. Alright, So I went to

659
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: Arizona State. You only need a heartbeat, okay, In the

660
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: words of in the words of our own Matt Mitchell.

661
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Arizona State is one of the top twelve schools in

662
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, so it is. It was, but but

663
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: when I went there, we were the PAC ten. So

664
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: he needs to do research. You know what, You're right,

665
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: do your research. Well, actually, to be honest, you know,

666
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: let's go this way. We were the six pack Oregon.

667
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: Oregon State didn't even have teams. Okay, all right, that's

668
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: enough history with Paul Duca. Let's move on to everyone's

669
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: favorite time of the week, storytime. What Pauli, what do

670
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: you mean? No, the Derby's coming up. We got another

671
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: show next week. What we do every week? I didn't

672
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: know we were signed on to this for another week.

673
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: We're signed on to this indefinitely. Gosh, why did I

674
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: come back to New York. Let's go to storytime with

675
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: Paul LaDuke. Pauli has a gem today that will take

676
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: us back to his youth and a twelve year old

677
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: Paul laduc A being thrown in race track jail. Pauli

678
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: always started with another true story. Um, he used to

679
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: go to the racetrack. Obviously, this is my reason why

680
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: the love I have for the races and been covering

681
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: him for the last seven years, actually been blessed to

682
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: be covering for the last seven years. Um. So I'm

683
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: twelve years old um at the time, and my father

684
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: owned a restaurant called the NFL Sports Pub. Um. And

685
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: what my father used to do is what you see

686
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: on Bar Rescue is is what he used to do.

687
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: He used to like fix restaurants and stuff like that.

688
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: So one of the best was he fixing restaurants or

689
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: families as John Tafford does both. Oh he does. Yeah.

690
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: He was also Safe Island, Puerto Rico. You have to

691
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: be part psychi just because most of the time, if

692
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: families like we were a family business, family businesses are

693
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: hard to run together. And this is an Arizona, Arizona,

694
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: so we're about two miles away from Turf Paradise. And

695
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: my dad was an old school, very lenient person. So

696
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: he would let guys run tabs at bars. So a

697
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: guy sat at the end of the bar named Tom

698
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: that he was there all the time and he would

699
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: pay his tab and then there was a jockey and

700
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: his tab kick getting up there up there, up there,

701
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: and my dad would let it run for like a month.

702
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: And after about a month and a half he had

703
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: told him, like listen, man, you gotta like pay me something.

704
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: On this tab, or give me a horse, give me something.

705
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: I can give me a tip when you know what's

706
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: going on. So the guy goes, all right, man, I

707
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: got one for you. Uh, we're gonna plug him in.

708
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: Um My day goes well, he goes, but we gotta

709
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: work the horse first and see if the buzzer will work.

710
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: So I'm like a little bit of twelve um hearing

711
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: about this because I used to hang about the bar

712
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: because it mus be a pac Man machine and a

713
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong machine right by the bar. So I always

714
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: used to hear, hearstay here, now, which one where you

715
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: better at? Um? Pac Man? I think I end up

716
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: finding out all the patterns. I'm pac Man. Of course

717
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, I know, yeah, fucking rain Man. I didn't.

718
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school. Um. So, now about two

719
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: days later he comes back to the bar and tells

720
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: my dad we're good to go. I'll never forget a

721
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: name of the horse. Hard. Name of the horse is

722
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: Sweeter Day. Um. So my dad cuts me out of class.

723
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I love you, mom um, and we go on the racetrack.

724
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: He's got two thousand dollars in his pocket. The horse

725
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: is fifteen and one on the morning line, and he's

726
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: like having just the worst ulcers. He's he's, he's had

727
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: he he used to eat before. Tag him it before

728
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: used to be a prescription. Now you can get it

729
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: or vice first. I forget it, he said, chun him

730
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: by the dozen, and he's thrown up, thrown up at

731
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: the restaurant, and I'm my dad. It's like, we gotta

732
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: get to the racetrack. So we get to the racetrack.

733
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: You can barely walk up the stairs. So he's going

734
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: into the bathroom upstairs and he's just keeled over the toilet. Well,

735
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: now it's like twelve minutes, ten minutes to post. And

736
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: back in those days, um, they had security cards on unlock,

737
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: and there used to be a red line that was

738
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: from the bedding window, Yeah, from the betting window, and

739
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: you could not approach the betting window. Now yeah, now

740
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: they let you go up there with like your daughter whatever,

741
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: they let you bet. They don't care anymore. There's no

742
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: security guards, there's none of that. So it's now seven minutes,

743
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: six minutes, five minutes. My dad's not coming out of

744
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I'm just looking up looking out in

745
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: the horse like twelve thirteen one so I just run

746
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and my dad, I just give me

747
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the like, I'm not giving you the money, give me

748
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: the money. So now I go get them. I get them.

749
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: I get two thousand. So now I'm trying to look

750
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: for somebody over eighteen. It looks trustworthy that will put

751
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: the bet down for me. So you're twelve years old

752
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: with two thousand dollars in your handcache yes, and you're

753
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: looking to bet a horse. I'm trying to find somebody

754
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: over eighteen the bet doors and it's just like very

755
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: crowded day, like on a Saturday. Um. This when race

756
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: tracks were really full, especially to Paradise, and I just

757
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: like I was like trying to find somebody. I remember

758
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: asking a guy and the guy looked at me like

759
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: a little crazy. I'm like, um, and then he was like,

760
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: do you have the two thousand? I was like this,

761
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like I can't give this guy two thousand.

762
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna give me the ticket back,

763
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: this and that. So they start loading the horses in

764
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: and it's like one through seven, and you know when

765
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: you watch so many races, you know, and then bell

766
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: is about to go off. So the eleven, horse goes in.

767
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: So I just ran up to the window and I go,

768
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: give me two thousand and went on seven and the

769
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: lady punched ticket and she goes, wait a second, you're

770
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: way too young. And then when she went to like

771
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: put the thing back in, it went off. The bell

772
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: went off. So now let's take it. Five ticket had

773
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: popped out of the auto to machine, so for her

774
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: to cancel it, she's got to put it back in,

775
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: hit all these buttons to cancel. But as soon as

776
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: the bell goes off, I can't do it. Katie by

777
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: the door, okay, So where was the ticket? When she

778
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: when the ticket pops out of the machine, what'd you do?

779
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: I took it and put in my pocket. And then

780
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: what happened? I got handcuffed by whom race track security.

781
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: You're not You're not getting handcuffed by a cop. Race

782
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: track security. They have handed So tell us what happens

783
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: after you get handcuffed. Well, my father's ulcer went completely

784
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: away when the horse won by seven. Um, Now I'm

785
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: holding a twenty three thousand ticket in my pocket, and

786
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: I can hear my dad come running out going where's

787
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: the ticket? Where's the ticket? And I'm like, gets in

788
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: my left pocket and he grabs it out of my

789
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: left pocket. Now he's holding the ticket. And now did

790
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: they take you somewhere when they handcuffed you? WHOA whatever

791
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: you wanna call race track jail is down there at

792
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Turf Paradise. I went down to this thing and it's

793
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: just like the secure urity guard. Um, this other guy

794
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: and the teller. Now this poor lady's responsible for because

795
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: it's on her till. Because you gotta understand, a lot

796
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: of tellers gamble. They punched their own tickets and sometimes

797
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: they can be short, you know, if they don't get

798
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: tipped or whatever. Um, So my dad's basically saying, you

799
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: got to give me twenty four thousand, like I had

800
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: to take all the hair. He's holding the ticket, which

801
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen wouldn't happen this, we would not

802
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: be He gave my father the money. Um, and I'll

803
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: never forget. We walked outside and my dad waited for

804
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: like two hours. My mom must have called I don't

805
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: know how many times, forty times, and we're lying because

806
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: we're not at the track and school day. I think

807
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: my I think my dad might have dropped like Paul

808
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: had extracurricular activities. I had to like go like hits

809
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: the mixture golf ball. I was playing on the golf

810
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: team of time and uh he uh waited and gave

811
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: the woman six dots. She lost her job. She came

812
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: out of Turf Paradise crying, and my dad said, I'm like,

813
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: it was by chance that you punt. You punched that ticket.

814
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I can't believe they gave us the twenty four thousand

815
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: and he gave her six thousand, and I remember she

816
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: got She cried, she goes, this is more all ever

817
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: make punch of tickets here, Thank you so much. So

818
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: she was happy Senor Laduca doing the right thing then.

819
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: But my picture was on the wall and I was

820
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: banned for Turf Paradise from twelve to I was like eighteen.

821
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: And then you abandoned the car there one time. Yeah,

822
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: it's in a diph somewhere there there, alright. So that's

823
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Paul getting arrested in Surf of Paradise. Really kind of

824
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: lays the groundwork for a lot, doesn't it. Yeah, you

825
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: just put a lot of things into perspective. Thanks a lot,

826
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: like Jack Buddy, all right, it feels like it's good

827
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: a time May In this thank you for listening to

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: the favorites by the Action Network. Make sure you go

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00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: and subscribe, download you Believe Us a live star review

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Speaker 1: on Apple podcast radio dot com, slash the Action Network,

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00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Until next time, Love

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Speaker 1: you