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Speaker 1: let's get to the Wednesday show Me Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: Four men and loom to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens. I'm coming

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Speaker 1: to you from Stinny, filled with heroes in Bunker's Mark Stessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg rose Ball. What's up? Boys? Get in?

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's go. You were up because I saw

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Speaker 1: you meet about it. Already dealing with a global pandemic

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Speaker 1: on top of it, that's enough. We don't need that.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised it was only like a three point

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Speaker 1: There were a couple of times when I first moved

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Speaker 1: but um, it felt like almost double that, just in

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Speaker 1: to be a fun one. Yeah. Well, we're We're alive.

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Speaker 1: We're just surviving. That's where we're at right now. We're

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Speaker 1: surviving here during the global pandemic. And um oh, I

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Speaker 1: have an update as we speak, breaking news. We spoke

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Speaker 1: about it yesterday during the Mark Sesler mock draft Uh

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Speaker 1: bob Ba byl Mims. Was he high on Corey Coleman.

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Speaker 1: He's not checked in coman, but he said, I did

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Speaker 1: not have to bring up Rice Petty. That was unnecessary.

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Speaker 1: I remember the Corey Coleman conversation. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: was on our Twitter show. We talked a little Denzel Mims,

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Speaker 1: talk a little Maybe we'll talk to Denzel Mims with

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Speaker 1: spicy maybe he'll be one of the guys that spice

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Speaker 1: makes his return to be around the NFL podcast. He

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Speaker 1: missed last year's show because of mysterious scheduling conflict on

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Speaker 1: his side. Um, but we are excited because, like we

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Speaker 1: said in our tease earlier this week, we don't know

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Speaker 1: draft analysis is uh in the business. We could get

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Speaker 1: west nothing at all. Well, we missed him last year

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Speaker 1: because Spicy was basically CouchSurfing for like some age thirty

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Speaker 1: of course spice Rack is Chris Wesling's well erstwhile desert Consigliari.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the things we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: Spicy has always been a big sports fan, monster sports fan,

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Speaker 1: So we'll be uh looking forward to that. Uh and

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Speaker 1: before that, we're going to people thought maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 1: it in the past, but we have decided to table

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Speaker 1: our sandwich props for this draft and instead focus on

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Speaker 1: going around the NFC in thirty two minutes. So we

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Speaker 1: did the a f C last week. You people like this,

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Speaker 1: so we are going to deliver the content you deserve.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, Uh, what do you think is more popular

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Speaker 1: That's that's the thing here in the south Land. We're

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Speaker 1: Ricky hit it. We're starting with Greg Rosenthal and the

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Speaker 1: talk about the Dallas Cowboys. They have the seventeenth overall

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Speaker 1: at his numbers, and I know last year was a disaster.

427
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: He got hurt and barely played. I wonder if he

428
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: is like a potential sneaky producer next year. I wonder

429
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: if he has a shot. Yeah. I like that, Carl,

430
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: But what they really need is an explosive, fast playmaker.

431
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is an awesome route runner, great body control,

432
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: not the fastest wide receiver in the league. Funcius is

433
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: big and not fast. They're tight ends are not fast.

434
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: They need an explosive guy. I like that. Dan. You

435
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: know he made who takes each team? I see what

436
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: you're doing. Dan, You're giving Cessler the Packers just because

437
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna bury them. Actually know, if you

438
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: look at it. Let's take a brief pause just to

439
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: let you guys know there was strategy to it. You

440
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: both got everyone got two first place teams and two

441
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: last place teams, and it was not done at all

442
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: according to like who you guys connect with as heat

443
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: get that. That's so it's a that's an interesting in

444
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: a in a crafty strategy by our host, right, that

445
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: would have given Mark the Packers just to see. Yeah,

446
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: that was just all right. Let's move on to the

447
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: NFC South, starting with the Saints. Greg your boys. I

448
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: don't know who I heard say it, but I that

449
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Saints have the best roster in the NFL. And yeah

450
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: you could there. There's a lot of positions you could go.

451
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, cornerback. Um, you could add another receiver and

452
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: there should be a good one on the board at

453
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: twenty four. Uh. But because there's linebacker, certainly, because there's

454
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: not like a total screaming need, and because Sean Payton

455
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: and the Saints were so connected to Mahomes a few

456
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: years ago that more than any other team. I do

457
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: wonder if Jordan's Love is sitting there at twenty four,

458
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Speaker 1: are they the team to take a swing? Because I

459
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: don't think Love has nearly the profile Mahomes did coming

460
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: into the draft, but he certainly looks more like him

461
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: and just has the athleticism and the excitement every time

462
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: he touches the ball, and he is a guy thinks

463
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: Sean Payton could look at and yes, you have Taysom

464
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Hill there now and it's not an need, but he

465
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: could look at as a guy that if we put

466
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Speaker 1: him in our system and I get to groom him,

467
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: that seems like a potential landing spot for for Jordan's love.

468
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: I love that, and I also think the Saints wouldn't.

469
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: I would not be out of bounds for the Saints

470
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Speaker 1: to trade up for Love if they felt like, you know,

471
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: that's what happened to them with Mahomes a little bit.

472
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: There was a lot of interest and someone jumped in

473
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Speaker 1: and took them. And I think that if that was

474
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Speaker 1: in their plans, and then they're thinking when Mahomes was drafted,

475
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: certainly quarterback has to be a target, no matter what

476
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Speaker 1: they think of Taysom Hill. You know why Hill is

477
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Speaker 1: the next Steve Young. We're building already. I don't think

478
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Speaker 1: we're bailing on it. It's just that, you know, it's

479
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: that is something that is a experiment to TB D.

480
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Speaker 1: I love Taysom Hill. Yeah. I mean everything they've said

481
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Speaker 1: publicly him privately is he's the successor. They love him, um,

482
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Speaker 1: and I think it's noteworthy that for the past however

483
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: many years, five years, we've been hearing they're looking, they're

484
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: they're getting first round quarterbacks in that building. They want

485
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: to draft the quarterback. I haven't heard that much of

486
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: that this year, but this way, if if they take

487
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first and after letting Teddy Bridgewater

488
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: start the five games last year, I need everything. I

489
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: have everything I need to know about how they view

490
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: him exactly, and they've correctly scattered him. I think move

491
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Speaker 1: they UH speaking of the saying so stop down quickly.

492
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Just because it's kind of an interesting nugget that Sean

493
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Speaker 1: Payton told players Wednesday, will they will not have any

494
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Speaker 1: type of offseason program this spring, virtual or otherwise. It's

495
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: the quote from Peyton take care of your families, your health,

496
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: and be ready this summer. Uh completely wipes it out.

497
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: He had a He had a tweet with a I

498
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: believe it's a Game of Thrones ref of kind of

499
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: mocking the setup of what the virtual meetings are like

500
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Speaker 1: with all the players and coaching staff. I wonder if

501
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Peyton's an influential guy, um a

502
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: domino where a lot of teams are like this is stupid,

503
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: Like we I know what we're trying to do here

504
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: and stay in touch of the players and start installing

505
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: some layer of what game plan is, but maybe we're

506
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: better off just clearing the decks and waiting for everything

507
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: to set up. Well. I would add that they there

508
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: that does need to go through some channels in terms

509
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: of the league in the NFL p A and how

510
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: they want that stuff to be handled. Um, that came

511
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: from our newsroom on some level. But secondly that that's

512
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: that's maybe more of a luxury for a team like

513
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: the Saints, where the coach, the quarterback, and many of

514
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: the players are embedded and know each other. Well, that's

515
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: not a luxury. A first year of coach, Matt Rule

516
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: is not gonna approach things that way, I can guarantee you.

517
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I guess I wonder what rule does Rule or any

518
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: of these first year coaches really think a lot is

519
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: going to be accomplished in this. I guess they're communicating

520
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: with players you've never met. I would think it would

521
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 1: what you'd want to establish some um idea of who

522
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: you are as a coach with as many players as

523
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Speaker 1: you could. That would be my approach if I were

524
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Speaker 1: a first year coach. I was stunned to see this

525
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: because you just don't see NFL coaches give up control

526
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: like that. That they're saying, Okay, we could be we

527
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: could have you two hours a day for a month

528
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: and a half, but we're gonna say no, We're gonna

529
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Speaker 1: trust you to show up to camp. And you just

530
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: don't see them giving up control. And this is a

531
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Speaker 1: different I'm obviously. I think New Orleans is one of

532
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: the hardest hit cities too. I think maybe that's a

533
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: factor because a lot of the players live around there.

534
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Sean Payton had coronavirus, so maybe, yeah, it's hitting him

535
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. There's a lot going on, and to

536
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: your point, Mark, it's a veteran team, so it's not

537
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: the same. But I can't remember coaches doing anything like this.

538
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be kind of surprised if other teams

539
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: took the same approach. I mean, he's not doing this,

540
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: and if he thought it would hurt the team, he

541
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: must not think they're getting you know, it's something they're getting.

542
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: Here's the next level move though. You do that, you

543
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: say that, then you create a trend around the league

544
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: where others are saying, you know what, the Saints are smart,

545
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the same thing. Then the Saints secretly

546
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: are meeting for two hours a day and they are

547
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: getting that little bit of a Saints edge. That's good.

548
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: That's like, that's kind of at two points for you

549
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: mark a little a new pink pony operation. Perhaps in

550
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: a way, maybe let's get back into it. Oh yeah,

551
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: NFC South Atlanta Falcons. Uh, start the clock. Rick, he

552
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: fixed this defense. That is the that's the goal here.

553
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: And Thomas Dimatrof, I mean, let's calm down with that.

554
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: This guy is he's he's aggressive. He has engineered seventeen

555
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: draft A deals and five trade ups up or down

556
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: the first round uh since joining the Falcons as the

557
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: general manager or being named the general manager. So everyone

558
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: is connecting the Falcons to moving up, and um, it

559
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: makes sense because they have a guy who likes to

560
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: do it. Quarterback is a huge need here. Desmond true

561
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: font Uh was released went to the Lions, So they

562
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: are a guy that they are a team that is

563
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: connected to Jeffakuda, c G C. J Henderson from Florida.

564
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: But both these guys are expected to be gone at

565
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: sixty and hence everyone connecting the Saints with moving up

566
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: to get one of those dudes. Don't be surprised if

567
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: it happens. Yeah, Vick Beasley's gone, Um Trufonts gone, Freeman's gone,

568
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: a lot of Devindry Campbell's gone, a lot of the

569
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: better picks Dimitroff has had and kind of who you

570
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: associate with the Falcons are gone and they they need

571
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I say, you can say this about a

572
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of teams, but Dimitroff needs a lot of hits

573
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: in this UH draft too, because he he was on

574
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: a hot streak and that's kind of slowed down the

575
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: last three years. Are they ever going to have a

576
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: hard hitting, tough defense. This stops people. I mean what

577
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: they do? I mean, they need they need a linebacker,

578
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: They need some help on the defensive line, in addition

579
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: to cornerback, and they need to finally just change their mentality.

580
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Stop people. You know, when when we saw them beat

581
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: the Rams in that playoff game, that was the one

582
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: month or two where I thought that defense really and

583
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, coming down the stretch of the Super year.

584
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: But that when they knocked off the Rams in that

585
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: playoff game, that that defense started to look like it

586
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: was finally turning the corner. And then the wheels come off.

587
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: You raised the interesting point West because it's almost like

588
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the vision they've had under Dan Quinn hasn't worked, you know,

589
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: on defense, it just hasn't. Since we've been covering football,

590
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: it's been the Pampa Bay Buccaneers. Everybody's excited about the Bucks.

591
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: How about you, Chris Westling, what's going on there? Well,

592
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: they've got a couple of issues. But when I look

593
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: at this team and you look at the style with

594
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: which Tom Brady plays quarterback, you need a third down back.

595
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: And I wonder if in the second round a guy

596
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: like Clyde Edwards Hilaria is there, um from l s U.

597
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Seems like a perfect guy. But then you also think

598
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: would would Brady prefer a veteran in that rule? Um,

599
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: So if they pick up a really good third down

600
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: back and Trent Williams uh in this draft, I think

601
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: that's that's what a veteran team like the Bucks needs.

602
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: And they talked about a deal with you know that

603
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: almost came into fruition where the Bucks sent We're gonna

604
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: send O. J. Howard to Washington, and Washington was gonna

605
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: send Trent Williams back. So it's definitely on the radar.

606
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of backs in this draft. I

607
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: think in the second or third round that that can

608
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: catch passes that they would that they would love to take.

609
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Cam Akers as a guy I've watched and I really liked.

610
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: He was on kind of in a terrible situation at

611
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Florida State, but he has that quickness, uh, and he

612
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: has some receiving ability that you love to see. And

613
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: those guys tend to translate pretty well to the to

614
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the pros. Trent Williams makes so much sense for them

615
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: right the window is open for a short time with

616
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Brady obviously bringing Gronk. Now this team is looking to

617
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: win right now, get a thirty one year old left tackle.

618
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: It's huge upside. It kind of makes sense. I guess

619
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Speaker 1: where do you put Donovan Smith? Maybe on the right

620
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: side then, I mean they have one tackle they I

621
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: mean they're roster. It's kind of does remind me of

622
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: the Browns because on paper the roster looks great. I

623
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: know it doesn't normally work out that way, but on

624
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: paper it really does look pretty d I take Donovan

625
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Smith and make him your pass catching back. He's a

626
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: veteran BI remember a couple of summers ago when the

627
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Bucks are on hard knocks and we're kind of having

628
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: the same conversation about them. On paper, this team looks

629
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: pretty good, and the difference is they can get excited

630
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: about their secondary a lot of young players that they

631
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: liked how they played under my boy Tad Bowls. That's fun.

632
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: You've been supporting him, that's fair. The Carolina Panthers Mark Sessler,

633
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: I feel like genuinely interested in the Panthers for the

634
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: first time in a while, just because I kind of

635
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: like reclamation projects. Um, Matt Rule was nice enough to

636
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: come up and say hi to us at the combine

637
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: that has more coaches should realize that has a major

638
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: impact on you think we're ever gonna attack Matt Rule

639
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Speaker 1: after that happened. I also think it's just an interesting coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, based on everyone that's worked with him loves him.

641
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Speaker 1: But you've downgraded at quarterback. I'd say, um, you've lost

642
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame worthy talented linebacker and Luke Keiekley. Uh.

643
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Speaker 1: You know you're basically looking to in theory under Matt Rule,

644
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Speaker 1: rebuild the roster from A to Z. And I think

645
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Speaker 1: one name that keeps sort of coming up paired with

646
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Speaker 1: Carolina is I say A Simmons, the linebacker, who is

647
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, an uber athlete, but may need to certain

648
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Speaker 1: type of defense to fit in, or you have to

649
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Speaker 1: build a defense around him. Um. I also think that

650
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Speaker 1: you know, if Jeff Ocuda ever slid down to them

651
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Speaker 1: at number seven, that's a big that's a big guy

652
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: to consider. James Bradberry has gone. I mean, I think

653
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Speaker 1: you start on defense. My one question would be, and

654
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Speaker 1: I get that Teddy Bridgewater, you know, to some people

655
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Speaker 1: is great and probably your lock and load guy, But

656
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Speaker 1: what specifically at Greg Rose upon it? No, I'm just saying, no,

657
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: tried to make Teddy into like a world beater. I

658
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't buy Teddy is like the problematic.

659
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't buy him rebuilding quarterback that you built around.

660
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: So if to ever fail to you is does Matt

661
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Speaker 1: rule um hasten this rebuild quickly by saying, all right,

662
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: we've gotten now two good quarterbacks. I think that makes

663
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. They're a team. No one's really

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Speaker 1: talked about that much. Dan is showing me a piece

665
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: of paper that's as six point oh, which is what Dan?

666
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Speaker 1: That is? Uh? Teddy Bridgewater averaging less than six air

667
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: yards per temp with the Saints lesis you know you

668
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: know who did an average of many air yards per

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Speaker 1: temples year like Drew Brees. You can you can win

670
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Speaker 1: some football game. Yeah. By the way, physically record is eleven.

671
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Speaker 1: Put some respect. That's data, bro. Walker. My son walked

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Speaker 1: up to me during that and said, to you, see,

673
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is my boy, all right, and Marco luck

674
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Speaker 1: to you. I know the Panthers, you're very excited about

675
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: them moving on to the NFC West to close things

676
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: Outgria Cardinal alright, the Arizona Cardinals has Steve come drafting

677
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: number eight with maybe the worst track record of first

678
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: round picks until Kyler Murray Uh in the entire NFL.

679
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, Bust Hassan Reddick looking like a bus Kim,

680
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: d J Bust Buchanan, Dion Buchanan and d J Humphries

681
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: will give you singles and doubles for that something like that.

682
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: And then Jonathan Cooper was in there. It was a

683
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: massive us um number eight. He could go in any direction,

684
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: like you think defensive line would make sense and and

685
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: there's guys that would be worth it at the top

686
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: of our draft. Ashkad No. He crashed into some magnetiles

687
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: I believe and the magnetiles are are worse for wear.

688
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. They could still take a receiver, is

689
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: where I was going, you know, like if they think

690
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: the value is there to just go crazy and have

691
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: an unbelievable offense and receiver, Like I wouldn't fault them

692
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: at all because the defensive lineman at the top of

693
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: the draft don't get me as excited because they're all

694
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: they're all supposed to be better stopping the run than

695
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: rushing the passer. That doesn't get me that excited. And

696
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: we love fits, but he's year a year at this

697
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: stage of his career. And if this is truly an

698
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: excellent wide receiver draft class, if you love a guy,

699
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: go get him. I think they're going defense. That's where

700
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: I would look. If Derek Brown's there, wouldn't they just

701
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Speaker 1: gobble him up the defensive lines, Like their defense on

702
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: paper needs a lot of work, and you know on

703
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: the field too, they struggled pretty badly, Like I had

704
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Speaker 1: Derek Brown going to them in my mox so case

705
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: closed nice, but a nice left tackle wouldn't hurt more

706
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Speaker 1: lineman in general. Please, I don't know, Like when you

707
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Speaker 1: hear I guess with Derek Brown, like he sounds a

708
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: little coming out like Star Maybe not, maybe that's unfair

709
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Star LOKs lately, but those guys much bigger than maybe

710
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: quinnin Williams even a little bit. It's like, well, eventually,

711
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: maybe he's got to develop into a path rusher. And

712
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: to me, that is the NFL as you need pass

713
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: rushers from the interior one. The Rams, their situation reminds

714
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: me a lot of the seventeen Saints, a former contender

715
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: that needs a big draft to restock the cabinet, get

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Speaker 1: the organization back on track. But there are problems there

717
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: because of course, first of all, finding equivalent of Marcus Lattimore,

718
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Ryan ram Check and Albert Kamara Easier said that done

719
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: that's asking comes damn near impossible when you don't have

720
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Speaker 1: a first round pick like the Rams. So the Rams

721
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: are in a really tough spot. It kind of screams

722
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: transition year to me, But of course management's not gonna

723
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: look at it that way. They want to contend this year,

724
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Speaker 1: and if they're gonna get better, they have two second

725
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: round picks at fifty two and fifty seven. They gotta

726
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: put some focus on that offensive line. Because Todd Gurley

727
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: shipped out of town. UM gave up on the franchise star.

728
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: But how about the fact that well respected places like

729
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: PFF rank the Rams thirty one and offensive line rankings,

730
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: which was a huge fall off from their Super Bowl

731
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Speaker 1: season in twenty eighteen. UM, so they got to invest

732
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: in that. I know they brought back Andrew Whitworth, but

733
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Speaker 1: he's old and they got to get some fresh talent

734
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Speaker 1: in there. Jared Goth needs a big year, uh, and

735
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: get some hogs up front, and hopefully you hit on

736
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Speaker 1: a couple of these guys. It's gonna take time to

737
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: get the Rams back on track, but pressure on less

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Speaker 1: need in the second round. Here, what a few draft

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Speaker 1: picks they've had the last couple of years, third, fourth,

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Speaker 1: fifth round they've been using on offensive tackles, and I

741
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: think the jury is still out. Nobody really knows if

742
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Speaker 1: those guys can play. They were really high on Joseph

743
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: note Boom and he was graded terribly by PFF last

744
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: year before he got injured. So I think you're right

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: that's still an issue because nobody really knows what they

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00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: have there. Well. They like Josh Reynolds. They say trading

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00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks was a vote of confidence. They do have

748
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Speaker 1: some things. I mean, they have Woods Coop Cup, they

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Speaker 1: have Sean McVeigh. Collin plays, and they have Aaron Donald

750
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey arguably the best players at their respective positions.

751
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: But you're right, there's more needs here, and I think

752
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: offensive line interior is certainly one, but just playmakers in general,

753
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: whether it's running backsight, in anything. They need a lot

754
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: of needs, not a lot of money, and not a

755
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: lot of picks right now. So they're just kind of

756
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a buying here. Good luck, my building

757
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: might not open on time now. West the Seahawks, I

758
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: feel like all throughout January and feb worry we kept

759
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: hearing from insiders. You know, if you're looking for a

760
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: team to really surprise and free agency to go guns

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00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: blazing all out, who boy, those Seattle I mean Brandon

762
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Shell and Vincent Mayola aren't really doing it for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really impressed with what they've done in their

764
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: off season so far. Maybe maybe they're the team that

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00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: goes after Yannick and gock Way. Uh. They they have

766
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: a guy who trades as much as anybody on draft

767
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: Day and John Schneider, so I wouldn't look there, and

768
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: then maybe I still don't trust the tackle situation outside

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Speaker 1: of Dwayne Brown, So maybe you go Austin Jackson, like,

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Speaker 1: what are you laughing at this? We're gonna pause because

771
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: I want west Avis full two minutes. But on the

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00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: subreddit which check it out and around the NFL, there's

773
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Speaker 1: an entire thread right now dedicated to Greg going after

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00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people like it. Though a lot of

775
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: people it's not being criticized. It's more just like a study.

776
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: And when Greg does it, once you hear it, you

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: can't unhear it. And now I can't unhear it. Although

778
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Speaker 1: I've always it's always been in the back of my mind,

779
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: but I guess after seeing that thread right now, it's

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Speaker 1: in the front of my mind. I mean, Michael Barbarow

781
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Speaker 1: of The Daily I don't know if you guys he

782
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Speaker 1: stole it from me. He's a big ummer. And that

783
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Speaker 1: was essentially saying Mark Sessler had that very trade uh

784
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Speaker 1: In Gockway to the Seahawks in his mock draft. Well

785
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Speaker 1: that where it was planted in my mind. West You're

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Speaker 1: back on the clock. You have eighty five seconds. Well

787
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Speaker 1: I was done. I just want the Seahawks to make

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Speaker 1: some moves. They the gockway because they do have those

789
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Speaker 1: two second rounders. And I tell me if I have

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Speaker 1: this wrong, but I think I read that Schneider has

791
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Speaker 1: traded down at least with one of their picks out

792
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Speaker 1: of the first round eight times, and so you could

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Speaker 1: get another you know, draft pick is ammunition to go

794
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: get in a gowckway, and then it solved your clowney situation.

795
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: I with you. There are wheelers and dealers, and I

796
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to make it anything less

797
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: than an exciting Seahawks draft in one way or another.

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Speaker 1: This is why I never look at the the subreddit.

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Speaker 1: Never have because now that you told me that I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know that now it's gonna change

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00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: how I am. I'm if I'm doing it, I'm leaning

802
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: into it, and instead I'll pro my more of my

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00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: nature is I'm gonna pull back and not do it

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: as much. I don't think. I do think that's the

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00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: way to look at it. I mean, there's there's a

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Speaker 1: whole breakdown of of the inflection of your voice and

807
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: where you come from and certain words that you say.

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00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: It's a really kind of fascinating look into how people

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00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: hear you. And that's sometimes it's a positive that you've

810
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: heard something you like, and it's sometimes you've heard something

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Speaker 1: that you um dismissed entirely orients scattered. I noticed a

812
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: few years ago one of these things. You can never

813
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: under here, but I enjoy it L O L and

814
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: really reveals who he's viben with on any particular episode

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00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: based on who he's doing it at them most I

816
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: love and looking too deeply into that, you know how

817
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: to hear that. Okay, where are we at? We're getting

818
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: We're getting near the end here. This is actually the end.

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Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty nine is more success. By the way,

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00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm now wondering if I'm gonna get any ooms from

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00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: Greg based on you need you need them. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's something the monitor, um right, please, I mean

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Speaker 1: the Niners are what a weird week because and I

824
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: realized that they've denied some of this, but de Ford,

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00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: um Kwan, Alexander come up and trade talks. Mike Lombardi

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Speaker 1: cited that, um, they're openly shopping Marquis Goodwin, h Chi,

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Speaker 1: Whiskey Tart. I mean, so there's a lot of potential

828
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Speaker 1: movement here. They have some cap concerns, and I think

829
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: that's why some of that's happening. But for me, I mean,

830
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: if you're also gonna move to Forest Buckner, your defense

831
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: could potentially look a lot different. So you cannot get

832
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: a developmental guy um with that pick from the cults.

833
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean that seems overtly obvious. But I think they

834
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: really need a flip the switch type of guy that

835
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: keeps the Super Bowl window wide open. And I don't

836
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: think you need to get too crazy here. It seems

837
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: to be wide receiver and they're in a good position

838
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: to get Ceedee Lamb or Henry Ruggs or Jerry Judy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you would do anything other than that.

840
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: And I think that when general manager John Lynch saw

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Speaker 1: me walking around the combine in a in a bathroom,

842
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: he was thinking these exact same things all the way

843
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: back then. Ian what they had to do, I mean,

844
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: they could have and ago. It really does the fact

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Speaker 1: that we were even allowed to do that UM feel

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Speaker 1: suspicious UM and maybe that was the heart of where

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Speaker 1: we are today. That might have been the one of

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Speaker 1: the pandemic um colonels right there. I'm not sure, that's

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Speaker 1: a new scouting term for me. Flip the switch guy,

850
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: Can you unpack that one for me? Well, I think

851
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: you just like a guy that like, suddenly their wide

852
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: receiver group is one of the best in the NFC

853
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: and a total headache to handle. If they nailed, um,

854
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: the right wide receiver pick with number thirteen, Suddenly, you

855
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan could do all sorts of wonders with that. Yeah,

856
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: who's their number two receiver? I mean that's even saying

857
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel's your number one? If you Travis Benjamin, I know,

858
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan, but yeah, you want you want a

859
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: more talented horn old line helped to We just went

860
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: around the NFC in thirty two minutes. Good work everybody,

861
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: and um, let's not delay it. He's already. Uh, he's backstage.

862
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: He's ready to go. He's wearing an old school new

863
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: Jersey nets. Oh I love that shirt. That is taking

864
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: me back the eighties. Um spice Rack, welcome back to

865
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast and for the first time

866
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: on video. And he's still got the looks. Handsome guy,

867
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: he said, and even told me Shaved had the dimples

868
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: on two days ago. Then you're scheduling me. But uh,

869
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: it's good to see your freaking faces. I'll tell you

870
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: the audio and video or a little bit out of sync,

871
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: so uh, it's a little strange here, but it's nice

872
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: to see your faces, especially man Cessler. Yeah, right with

873
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: the market teams seconds. He's already complained about the audio

874
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: and a couple of days ago. I love this guy.

875
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we want to We definitely want to have

876
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: have you focus. So I'm sorry that we had to

877
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: we had to rebook you twenty four hour delay, but um,

878
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: we're very excited Spice, because it's been two years since

879
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: you've been on the show and you've had some draft hits.

880
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: You've had some Mrs. Jonathan Williams comes to mind, but

881
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: you've also you're a guy that's plugged in hit. He

882
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: had a hit, Jonathan Williams, a hit, he's got one.

883
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Last year when he was great for two games, they

884
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: pulled him and then the Colts melted down the stretch.

885
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Last year, it was more of a miss because we

886
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: asked for a number of names that year and the

887
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: only one you would give us to the fifth round

888
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: running back, Like if you were if Bob McGinn was

889
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: giving you a scouting report, you know, I'd be like, really,

890
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: not his stuff. You know, picks a lot of great players,

891
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: like knows a lot, and then like the negative ones

892
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: at the bottom would be like, it's totally it's unreliable.

893
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: Some years just doesn't show up. Uh. Imagine if Jonathan Williams. No,

894
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: imagine if Jonathan Williams would have taken the league by storm,

895
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: you'd have an argument there. Then, Um, alright, so let's

896
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: keep you off his career yet though, write off his

897
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: career yet, let's stay topical, all right, So, spice Wreck,

898
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: you are a guy. We don't need Spicy to tell

899
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: us that Joe Burrow is good. But what we want

900
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Spicy to tell us about some guys that that he

901
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: loves because I know, Spicy, you're not in the desert anymore.

902
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: And you don't even have to say where you are

903
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: if you don't want to. I have no idea what

904
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: you're up to these days, but you're not at the desert. Unfortunately,

905
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: if you were at the desert, I'm sure a lot

906
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: of people that you worked with the top of that

907
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: pool are not employed right now. So it's a tough

908
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: situation in Vegas. Maybe you got out of there just

909
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: a time. Um, but perhaps are you? Are you still

910
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: tracking sports and college football as closely as you did

911
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: during your Vegas heyday. I'm not not out of Vegas.

912
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: A and B. Of course you already know that. Of

913
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: course I I watch all the sports, and right now

914
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: during the uh you know, in our time of quarantine,

915
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm following sports. I never thought i'd follow, you know,

916
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: than baseball, Taiwan Taiwanese baseball, Russian ping pong, Belarusian soccer, soccer.

917
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Who's looking good? And I wish I had? I don't know. Listen,

918
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: let's take my word it your love of sports, Yeah,

919
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: as strong as I've ever been. And so why don't

920
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: we get into its spicy and we know more than

921
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: to ask for a set number I had mentioned maybe

922
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: on text five or whatever. But the guys are right like,

923
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: we'll take essentially what you've got. So whatever you have,

924
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: guys that have captured your imagination, Guys that are gonna

925
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: be big scores, whether it's around one guy or some

926
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: of you can get a little deeper, get us go

927
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: and name one for us. Well, I mean, it's it's

928
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: not exactly off the rate oh, thanks for the music.

929
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Not exactly sure it's off the radar, but you know

930
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: two attack of Miloa is about it is funny college

931
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: football players I've ever seen in my life. Um, I mean,

932
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: this guy basically didn't. This is what we're doing with

933
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: the clown music here, this is I don't see that

934
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: gets this background. The name of the song in se oh,

935
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: sugar and spice. So you you think it'd be crazy

936
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: for for the Dolphins to pass on him, you you

937
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: would think it that would be insane at some point

938
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: early on in the top ten. I mean, really, I

939
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: think starting to pick two teams that need a quarterback

940
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: are going to be um, They're gonna have to consider,

941
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: do we really want to pass this guy up because

942
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: health situation? Possibly? He is um as accurate pastor as

943
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. He is um And I mean, if

944
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: I can take you back to the first time I've

945
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: ever even heard of this guy, and it's probably the

946
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: case with with many people his You know, Alabama's going

947
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: for the national championship against Georgia and he's struggling, or

948
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: I should say, uh, Jalen Hurts and the team Alabama

949
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: in general are struggling. It might have been thirteen nothing

950
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: at half, but it was one sided Georgia, and Uh,

951
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: as a gambler that night, you told me to embrace

952
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: my Jimmy the Greek their handsas the only the only chance,

953
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: the only chance I have here tonight is Nick Saban

954
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: making an adjustment at halftime, and he comes out in

955
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: the third quarter with a freshman left hander from Hawaii

956
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: that most people had never heard of before. And uh,

957
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean he won him a national championship. He was

958
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: He's basically been perfect from the start of that third

959
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: quarter through uh, you know, up until getting hurt this

960
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: past season. So I mean I see a lot of

961
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: I see a lot of Drew. Okay, what do you

962
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: think peptics? Our friend, your friend of mine, cam Carey,

963
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: one of them maybe who might point out that your

964
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: scattering report for to a ton of Violoa sounds a

965
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: lot like your scattering report for Kellen Moore when he

966
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: came into the league. Another south Paw spice huge on

967
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. I still am a place for him. No,

968
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, Beats two has got a stronger arm. Noticeably,

969
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: He's more sturdily built. That's obvious, Um, you know. So

970
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a little different. I don't mind that I

971
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: was wrong about Kellen Moore. I didn't write about enough guys.

972
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't make to it to me. It seems to

973
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: it to me, seems like you know, a left handed

974
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and uh, you know when the when when

975
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: that thirteen when the thirteen score wonder like score came out,

976
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: which I understand it's it's a nineteen and I was

977
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: a false report, but I just rolled my eyes. I

978
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: didn't care. He's so obviously a cerebral player. That can't

979
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: be I mean, it's that can't be questioned with a

980
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: guy like to He's he's, uh, one of those really

981
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: smart scramblers. All the stars a star. Alright, give us

982
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: somebody else spicy like that. We're off to a good start.

983
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean, do you are you in

984
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: another star or just another human somebody everyone found in

985
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: the table? Someone spicy guy. It's a spice guy, and

986
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: your future on this show depends on it. I'll tell you.

987
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: Well more Jackson wasn't good enough. Okay, Okay, you weren't big.

988
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Where does it bring it up? What does bring it up?

989
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: You can come back, but we're gonna bring it up.

990
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: You know so, so it's a guy you're staking your

991
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: name to. Antoine Winfield Jr. Now full disclosure, I'm I'm

992
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: biased his his dad probably my favorite UH Ohio State

993
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: Buckeye of all time, the as far as five eighty

994
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: pound corners go. He's like, he's the best tackler I've

995
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: ever seen. He's sure tackler I've ever seen as a

996
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: little guy. Oh, I don't mind putting that on there.

997
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: That's that's an easy one for better than his dad.

998
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: His dad might be the best tackling. The dad, the dad,

999
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: the dad is the best I've ever seen. His the kid,

1000
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: the kid, the kid, the prospect from Minnesota probably has

1001
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: uh definitely has I would say better ball skills. Maybe

1002
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: not maybe not the tackler, but definitely has that place

1003
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: with a chip on the shoulder, just you know, just

1004
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: it's it's obvious when you watch him play that he

1005
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: was a difference maker. He was a leader, and I'm

1006
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: a I'm an ants on Winfield guy. I'm also metting

1007
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: on him to go higher than was a great player.

1008
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: He won the fourth Award as a corner without without

1009
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: recording an interception. So do you think he led? He

1010
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: lit Oi have stayed in tackles, and he played on

1011
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: the same team as Andy Katzimore. I'm dating myself with

1012
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 1: the references. Here's a little guy. He didn't just pick

1013
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: it's a little guy. He didn't just stick his nose

1014
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, he never he never missed a tackle.

1015
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: So I'm rooting for him, and I'm I'm rooting for

1016
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Anton Winfield Junior in a major way. I'm biased, undoubted,

1017
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: but he's a player, and he's a proven player for

1018
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years. I him being a bust any.

1019
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: So if somebody takes him in the back of the

1020
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: first round, you wouldn't You're you're saying that's not a

1021
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: bad pick. You're fine with that. It's not a reach, alright,

1022
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: somebody else, I feel good. This is a good one

1023
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: so far. Let me pin you down on a polarizing guy.

1024
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: What do you think of Jordan's love m I'm out quarterback.

1025
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: I'm out. He's um. He looks the part. He's six,

1026
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: you know. I think he ran a four seven ish

1027
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: h forty at the combine, which is of course a

1028
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: great score for a guy his size. But in three

1029
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: years of starting basically every game, this guy rushed for

1030
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: four hundred yards on two yards to carry playing at

1031
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Utah State Utah, that's right, that's right. So if you're

1032
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: a good athlete, you're playing on a bad you know,

1033
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: our average team, you're you would think you're you're either

1034
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: playing from behind or being chased on a bunch of

1035
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: I think back to maybe um Jay Cutler at Vanderbilt.

1036
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: He didn't take him over the top right, but you

1037
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: could see his skills. He was running for his life,

1038
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: throwing on the run. And so I saw of a

1039
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: guy in Jordan's love, someone who uh, instinctively, I just

1040
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: didn't get it. He wasn't the best runner, he was sad,

1041
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: he was safe. He only put up one good season,

1042
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: which is okay, that's fine coaching. But I just a

1043
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: guy with his um, with his athleticism, he should have

1044
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: been able to yards per season. You don't like out,

1045
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: you don't like So I want to know who you hate.

1046
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Who is the guy people are pumping up but you

1047
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: can't stand. You don't think he's a player at all

1048
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: at the top level. Jordan's Love is not good enough.

1049
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: I know you don't like Jordan. I'd rather I'd rather

1050
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: who else not. We know that come from who got,

1051
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: who made you money? Who lost you money? That's the secret,

1052
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: sauce Chris Snip. All right, I can play that game.

1053
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: But if you want to go back to Antoine Winfield Jr.

1054
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: And a monster party, all we got? We got? Can

1055
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: I another guy's friends? No hold on, let me let

1056
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: me ask another question here. High State has a great

1057
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: history with cornerback Award Marcus Lattimore. Where's Jeff Okuda in

1058
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: the in this in this group? Marshawn little More? Oh,

1059
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: he's he's a stud cam mess. I mean, what's the

1060
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: snickering for. I don't know that messed up Lattimore's name?

1061
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: No fair enough, fair enough givies part I mean he

1062
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: he warrants to pick. He wants to pick. It seemed

1063
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: it seemed pretty obvious all through last year that this

1064
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: is that kind of player. I think he'll he'll keep

1065
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: the tradition going. Let's go. Let's go quick here, Spicy,

1066
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: give me like a good day too. Guy. Who's the

1067
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be picked up? Not in the first round,

1068
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: but you think it end up being a big time contributor,

1069
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 1: perhaps quickly anybody jumps out of you Antonio, I would

1070
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: say Antonio Gibson from Memphis. I think he's a pretty Um.

1071
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a pretty trendy name along gut. But

1072
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: he's a he's a jackal trades. What do you think run?

1073
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: He's just a weapon. I don't know that. The thing is,

1074
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: he's not that Tyreek Hills scat back size. He's he's

1075
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: he's built and runs and plays a lot like ant

1076
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: Kwam Bolden in my opinion. So yeah, he's shifting. He's

1077
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: not the fastest, but he's shifty and he's strong and uh,

1078
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: he's not looking to go down. I mean he'll fight

1079
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: in the end. Um, he's bigger than that. He's bigger.

1080
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think he plays un receiver like?

1081
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: Which would I love going? Are you drafting? I think

1082
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he'll be He'll be a receiver that

1083
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: touches the ball a lot plus the return game. Um.

1084
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: But I'm a fan of Antonio Gibson. And then I

1085
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I don't know where if you're looking

1086
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: for one other guy, I don't. I don't know where

1087
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: he's um slated to go. But Cole McDonald, the quarterback

1088
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, UM, I don't know if he's fourth round,

1089
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: seventh round. He's on he's on the radar, he's on

1090
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: the right. It's not that deep, it's not that deep.

1091
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's a tall guy. He's a pretty good athlete,

1092
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: and uh, he will absolutely ld Cole McDonald. Cole McDonald,

1093
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's got he's taller than these guys. But

1094
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: he's got some John Kittenah Jake Delone, Um, well you know,

1095
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: well those guys weren't failures in life. But if you're

1096
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: drafting him in the sixth round, okay, you've got a

1097
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: guy who's done something. I mean he'll he'll let it

1098
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: rip downfield. I could see him starting. I mean, Jake

1099
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Delone went to the Super Bowl, went to a conference

1100
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: championship game. I mean, he didn't do nothing that um,

1101
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: but but he you know, he's a tall guy, he's

1102
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: a decent athlete, and he'll let it rip. I mean

1103
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: he'll let it rip. So the guy in this draft

1104
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: class that you think is the absolute slam dunk home run,

1105
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: is that too over? Even Burrow? No? I mean Burrow

1106
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: to me is an obvious first over pick. And is

1107
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: there anyone that anyone's really in his class? And maybe

1108
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: he's before we say goodbye to you, spicy, and this

1109
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: has been a great appearance. Um, is there anybody you

1110
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: want to get out there? So when you hang up

1111
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: right now and we and we say goodbye, you're not

1112
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: thinking yourself. Damn it. I can't believe I didn't mention

1113
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: player at well. I would just say, uh, ceedee, lamb.

1114
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: You know again. Not not an author radar guy by

1115
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: any stretch. But this is one of the best wide

1116
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: receiver drafts of all time. I think that's been established

1117
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: by all kinds of people. And uh, I feel pretty

1118
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: confident he's gonna be the best guy. But he'll he'll

1119
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: he'll be the best. He'll be I'll be the best

1120
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: receiver from this draft. Uman, he can run past you,

1121
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: he can make you miss. And then for a guy

1122
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: with a slight frame, I mean he's got a sort

1123
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: of a Chad Johnson Isaac Bruce frame. I mean he'll

1124
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: he'll throw a stiff arm in traffic and do it.

1125
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean he'll he is really impressive with the ball

1126
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: in his hands. And uh, I'm bet on him tomor

1127
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: night to go on the top eleven and a half.

1128
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: What about Denzel Mims, Bob Bates, Dds, Greg Rosenthal pounded

1129
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: the table for the Bailor stand out. I'm a bit

1130
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan. I mean

1131
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I love Justin, I love

1132
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, love Jalen Reagor. There's a lot of recent

1133
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Judy is a given. Henry Ruggs, I

1134
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: mean he's probably fast enough and first off that he'll

1135
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: be you know, he'll be a keeper. But he was

1136
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: pretty clearly the third bet. He was. He was pretty

1137
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: clearly the third best receiver UH at Alabama last year.

1138
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: That means your garbage, but you know, spicy, Just what

1139
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about the scouts who in Bob McGinn

1140
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: series did not rank old McDonald as one of the

1141
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: top twelve quarterbacks like he is listed alphabetically in the

1142
01:00:53,320 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: others section. Old McDonald, if I had if I had

1143
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: a strong opinion about staying on the farm and an

1144
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: experts said otherwise, I'm staying on the farm. Hands is

1145
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: because you've got a sexy beard. That's a fact. Oh yeah, man,

1146
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: I see this is this is awesome. In fact, we're

1147
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: never when we do this again, it will never not

1148
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: be on video because it just adds so much more

1149
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: to the whole thing. We love two thousand twenty two,

1150
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: Lock it in. Yeah, everything is everything, okay with you?

1151
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: But Eric America during this saying I am sweating. This

1152
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: is intent, that's the this is a thrill ride. This wait,

1153
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: watching speed in the theater. The effect that you have

1154
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: on women apparently, um from what we're hearing, Yeah, what's

1155
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: going on? You got a girl right now? You got

1156
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: a girl? What's your question? You got a girl? I

1157
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: mean I heard, I heard the question. There's a few

1158
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: ways you can stall, and one of them is by

1159
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: asking what's the question? Radio one on one. Right there

1160
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: you go, Spicy, Thank you buddy, and stay safe and

1161
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: stay well. You get the fire pick, come back out,

1162
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: keep keep the seat warm, baby. Alright, there you go,

1163
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: Spice racking Desert Consigliari the man, the myth, the legend,

1164
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: and he brought it today. I thought he had a

1165
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: lot of Yeah. If someone maybe on that subreddit, when

1166
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: they're done breaking down Greg's speech patterns, they can give

1167
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: us a full listing of the guy's Spicy believes in

1168
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: because I think we gotta. I think he hammered off

1169
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: about seven or eight. It was a little dicey there

1170
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: for a while. But I think we got a pretty

1171
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: good draft breaker. I'd say this too. I thought when

1172
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: he opened with two, I thought we're gonna get you know,

1173
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna get. You never know

1174
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get. But I loved what he said

1175
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: about to he He offered a lot of good information

1176
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: on him. It was good to hear something positive about too.

1177
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: It's been an end of the draft process not been

1178
01:02:55,160 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: kind to Mr TUNGABLOA Ricky, you're sweating during that, Yeah,

1179
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: that was that was something else. It's good. He's good

1180
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: radio though. Yeah, that was great and not just feel

1181
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: more alive, you know when spicy is on the screen. Yeah,

1182
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: but its goods. If he didn't have the goods, if

1183
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: it didn't bring good analysis, it wouldn't work. But I

1184
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: think that's why we bring him back. It also gives

1185
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: us something to root for when it comes to old McDonald.

1186
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be checking career. He's the new

1187
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. Picture like fifteen of those guys in the

1188
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: same room. And that's what's like to hang out on

1189
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: the West side of Cincinnati, all right there quick. I

1190
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: know when we're doing. We're are doing our next live show.

1191
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: All right. Um, that's it for our lead up to

1192
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. The next time you hear from us

1193
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: will be depending on what part of the world you're in,

1194
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: but we will have a Day one, Round one draft

1195
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: recap going up hopefully within about let's say, what do

1196
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: we say, Ricky, about two hours after the end of

1197
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: the first on you will have that on your phone. Yeah,

1198
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: I think so in that range. Yeah, we're gonna get

1199
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna get recording as soon as round one ends

1200
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: and then get it out to everybody. And then Friday, Um,

1201
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: that Thursday night show will stand as our Friday show,

1202
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: so make sure everybody uh listens to that because that's

1203
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: one of the biggest shows of the year. And then

1204
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night. Uh, it only happens once a year.

1205
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: We will do maybe twice a year late in the

1206
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: regular season with these Week sixteen and Weeks seventeen games,

1207
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: but a Saturday night podcast recapping the entire draft and

1208
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, sharing some winners and losers and just having

1209
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: having fun with it in times that aren't so fun.

1210
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: So and then I don't know what we're gonna talk

1211
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: about after then we're in a little bit of hot

1212
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: water and signing off four Quiet Storm, the mail Man,

1213
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: the old Boss Ricky Hollywood, and the great Spice Rack.

1214
01:04:48,520 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, Buddy, Jil the draft h