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Speaker 1: app today. Hi, everybody, and welcome in. It is the

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Speaker 1: Monday Morning Podcast. Dave Juanstead got some Chicago Bear talk,

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Speaker 1: some NFO combine talk, some draft talk, Dallas cowboy chatter.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with this for ten minutes. So the last

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Speaker 1: two years I have watched less and less NFL combine

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to describe right now. And this could

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Speaker 1: bore some of you. But one of the reasons I

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Speaker 1: love coming on this podcast that it's different than my

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Speaker 1: show podcast is I can take on topics and discuss

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Speaker 1: things that I would never discuss obviously on my show,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a little bit about the process

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Speaker 1: of the way I do this business. So I've always said,

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Speaker 1: you drive the bus. I'm not loyal to platforms and

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Speaker 1: I'm not loyal to leagues. When I started in this business,

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Speaker 1: I did a lot more college football than it got

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Speaker 1: This year, I did more college football than I've ever

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Speaker 1: done because I thought the West Coast had a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a renaissance. Michigan had a renaissance. So I

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Speaker 1: want the Michigan's and the USCS and the Notre Dames

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Speaker 1: I talked more college football. And the ratings went up

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Speaker 1: in college football. So fifteen years ago I moved off baseball.

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Speaker 1: Why because I watched the ratings, and I watched slowly

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Speaker 1: the attendants go down, and the ratings go down, and

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Speaker 1: to what you're watching. Okay, it's like it's a it's

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Speaker 1: the NFL combine doesn't get huge ratings. But in the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years I used to already be into it,

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Speaker 1: not as much as the draft, of the season, or

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Speaker 1: a beauty page and I always understood that. But when

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, I'm not going. I had a conversation with

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Speaker 1: Dilford told me this years ago, seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: NFL players to love football. They love what football provides

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Speaker 1: guy that was talking about Will Levins, how they like

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Speaker 1: how he gets the ball out and for their style

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Speaker 1: of offense, he would be perfect, you know. And then

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Speaker 1: I guess I have never studied him one year doing

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Speaker 1: it makes me a little nervous with him. But the

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Speaker 1: point is that there's not in NFL general manager's minds.

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Speaker 1: There's not a Trevor Lawrence in this opinion. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. I mean, I think that

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Speaker 1: it'll be Bryce Young, But I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of different stories, and it's a

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Speaker 1: matter of who's gonna fit in your offense. You talked

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Speaker 1: about the different cities, the mentality of your offense. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's gonna be real interesting. I don't

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Speaker 1: know any negatives except the size. Look at you know,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees. People passed on him, we did at the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins because of his size, but he was very accurate

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Speaker 1: at when he was at Purdue and he moved into pocket.

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Speaker 1: He drew Brees did a lot of things that Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young does. He really does without as good as supporting

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Speaker 1: cast like I have an Alabama no you know I

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Speaker 1: said this in the preamble to this interview about the Combine. Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur have said, Nah, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to go. Here's what I worry about, Dave. When you

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Speaker 1: play a college or a pro football season, you're hurt

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Speaker 1: by week three. Nobody's healthy. You match up against guys

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Speaker 1: that are bigger and stronger than you. I want to

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Speaker 1: see game tape. I worry it's a complete cottage industry.

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Speaker 1: Now coach prepping for the Wonderlick, prepping for the Combine. Shit.

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Speaker 1: I think he get fooled. I think Belichick has been

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Speaker 1: fooled by players. These guys come in, Dave. If I

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Speaker 1: went to you right and Trent Dilford said something to

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Speaker 1: me years ago, he goes, seventy five percent of these

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Speaker 1: guys don't love football. They love what football provides for them.

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Speaker 1: And I was told by my agent, get in the

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Speaker 1: best shape of your life. You'll never have to work.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be a late first rounder. Dave. I

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Speaker 1: look at the combine now I think he get fooled

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Speaker 1: a lot. I see some of these combined beauty pageant contestants.

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Speaker 1: I mean, where did you fallen on it? You know,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, well, it wasn't It wasn't the

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Speaker 1: I won't give the names. I've worked with about four

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Speaker 1: of the challenges I had was get him to draw

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Speaker 1: circles of an offensive formation where one guy was drawn,

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Speaker 1: other guy, and then next to him was the guard,

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Speaker 1: who was the size of a quarter. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you're one hundred percent right, And these guys are

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Speaker 1: getting scold yes from the agent. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Jones had a comment this week about

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Speaker 1: love I love all of it. I'd have you know,

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Speaker 1: But I love I love building teams. I love the draft,

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Speaker 1: and I have since I was, you know, in my

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Speaker 1: NFL pay big money infrequently that almost oh is the

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Speaker 1: answer is outside of quarterback, rush, end, increasingly starwide, receiver

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Speaker 1: and maybe corner. Dave. I think there's like forty five

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Speaker 1: positions in the world now and I didn't used to

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Speaker 1: include receiver, but because the rule changes, I do quarterback,

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Speaker 1: left tackle, receiver, ed rusher, corner. I would love a

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Speaker 1: really good mic linebacker to call my signals. It's not

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not. I don't have to have it.

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Speaker 1: But most great defenses have had a really great, heady

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Speaker 1: middle linebacker. But I look at this stuff when you

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Speaker 1: look at San Francisco in Philadelphia, is there an argument

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Speaker 1: to be made that you just keep drafting quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: load up your roster. And if you draft a quarterback

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Speaker 1: every year, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, you're gonna find

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Speaker 1: a brock Purty. You're gonna find You're gonna find a

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Speaker 1: guy out there. And what you want is just a

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Speaker 1: great roster until you find a star quarterback, which they're

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Speaker 1: seven on the planet. Because I look at the Niners

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Speaker 1: and I think, hell, I don't care who quarterbacks next year,

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Speaker 1: they're in twelve games. Well, you know, you're making some

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Speaker 1: interesting points. I just had a great conversation this week

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Speaker 1: with Mike Gettings junior, who his dad started Pro Scout,

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Speaker 1: And they do the color coach to blue, the red, gold,

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Speaker 1: and they rate every player. Not it doesn't matter which

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Speaker 1: you were two years ago, it's how did you perform

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Speaker 1: this year? And do you know, over the last ten years,

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Speaker 1: according to their service, every quarterback that's gone to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl has played at a blue level except one.

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Speaker 1: According to them, back in twoy fifteen, Peyton Manning played

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Speaker 1: at a red. That's the year that he went out

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Speaker 1: and he was hurt. His neck was bothering him at

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Speaker 1: Denver and they won the Super Bowl. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl when he coach. Now here's the other stat

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting. There has not been a blue left

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Speaker 1: tackle in the last ten years. Now, when I say blue,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna say, oh wait, Orlando Brin with Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: He's a great player. He is a great player, but

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Speaker 1: this year he didn't play at a blue level. What's

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Speaker 1: the tape? And that's the conversation I'm heading with diet

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Speaker 1: did But he said the positions that must be playing

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Speaker 1: at a blue level to win a Super Bowl over

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Speaker 1: the last ten years. Your defensive ends, your corners, and

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. Those are the positions. Now you want, you

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Speaker 1: gotta have thirteen blue players. Got they get too deepeness

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Speaker 1: for our viewers. But you gotta have average thirteen Blues

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Speaker 1: on your team to win a Super Bowl. That's what

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Speaker 1: most Super Bowl teams have. Okay, blue means that they're

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Speaker 1: playing at the highest level. So Brock Purdy, he might

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Speaker 1: not be talent wise Patrick Mahomes, but if Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: can get him playing at a blue level where he's

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Speaker 1: not tearing the ball over, he's completing seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: his passes, right, I mean, he's doing the things that

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Speaker 1: you have to do. If you're you know, a top

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this league, you know, then you got a

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Speaker 1: chance to win a Super Bowl. So it's it's a

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Speaker 1: real interesting concept. And him and I were talking about

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Speaker 1: it because you know, I was talking about some of

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Speaker 1: the Bear stuff, you know, you know, you know red players,

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Speaker 1: blue players, because Ryan Poles was talking about it on

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Speaker 1: the radio. How many blue players they need to get.

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Speaker 1: They don't have very many, if any at the Bears,

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Speaker 1: and so we were just talking about those numbers. But

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting stat you brought up, Purty. My point

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Speaker 1: is you have to have a quarterback, not blue talent wise, understand,

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Speaker 1: but play at a blue level, YEP, to win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's been that way for the last ten years,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going to change. So when

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Speaker 1: you start and look at the teams that can win

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, you got to look at the quarterback, pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: and corners. That's your starting point. So Aaron Rodgers goes

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Speaker 1: on a darkness retreat, you know, My takeaway is. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty new school on this. I got fairly young kids.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it takes for you to get your mind clear. Shit,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, Dave. If you got to go to

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Speaker 1: therapy when the season ends, go take six weeks, go

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Speaker 1: find yourself. But I've had this belief for a long

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Speaker 1: time that far Of and Aaron are really similar. That

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Speaker 1: the lack of an owner allows the quarterback for the Packers,

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Speaker 1: if talented, to essentially run the franchise. And because green

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Speaker 1: Bay is the smallest market, if they're bad at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they're not on television. In my childhood seventies and eighties,

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Speaker 1: the pack were never on television, right they I mean

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Speaker 1: they really weren't. And I think they're paralyzed by it.

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Speaker 1: If there if there was a Jerry Jones or an

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Speaker 1: owner in Green Bay, and and and Aaron said I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go into darkness retreat, he'd say, well, when

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Speaker 1: you're done with that, I want an answer, Or you're

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Speaker 1: going to go into darkness retreat, I'm going to send

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Speaker 1: you to the Jets. You'll be dark for the rest

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Speaker 1: of your career. You tell me when when you were

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Speaker 1: with Jerry or Wayne Hyazinga, go back to all your owners,

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Speaker 1: were there moments that an owner was actually really important

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Speaker 1: to set a precedent, to be a voice to hold

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Speaker 1: people accountable. Because Farvan Aaron have gone on this retirement

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Speaker 1: threat tour both of them for the last five years

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Speaker 1: of their careers. Yeah, I would say no, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably not the answer you want to hear,

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Speaker 1: but quite honestly, you know, I was at Miami when

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Speaker 1: who I knew was a fellow pit guy University of Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: and tell him that we were changing offenses and I

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Speaker 1: didn't see there being a fit that he could be

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Speaker 1: on the team, but we were going to go a

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Speaker 1: different direction on and on have chan daily who was

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Speaker 1: going to do a lot of movement stuff, not to

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Speaker 1: drop back. We were changing the Don Shula offense. When

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Speaker 1: Jimmy was there, he kept that pretty much in place.

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Speaker 1: I was completely getting a new playbook and so I

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Speaker 1: kind of went through that. Wayne Heizinka was never involved

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Speaker 1: with it. Jerry Jones, when I was at the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: when Jimmy Johnson was there. Jerry Jones was never involved

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Speaker 1: in what was going on with Troy Ankin. Never it

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Speaker 1: would have never happened. Jimmy would have left earlier if

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Speaker 1: that was the case. I mean he would he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have put up with it. So I wouldn't buy that.

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Speaker 1: I Does it bother you? Does it bother you that

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Speaker 1: Aaron has sort of a laws a fair attitude on

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Speaker 1: updating the Packers? Yeah? It does because last year we

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Speaker 1: made a commitment to him. I mean we really did.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a two way street. I get that

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Speaker 1: because we kind of went through the same thing last

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Speaker 1: year and we made this big commitment, big money commitment.

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Speaker 1: So it does bother me. I personally think he'll end

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Speaker 1: up back there. I mean, yeah, you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: hook to go maybe with the Raiders with Davante Adams

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Speaker 1: because he's a buddy of his. There's a hook to

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Speaker 1: go with Hackett to the Jets because it might be

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Speaker 1: a similar offense. But I don't think Aaron Rodgers wants

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Speaker 1: a lot of change, and he knows what he's getting

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay with Lafloor. He knows the offense, he

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Speaker 1: knows the receivers. You know, I don't know, he knows

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Speaker 1: what he wants to do. Talk about a guy as

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Speaker 1: an offseason routine. Now, all of a sudden, you go

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Speaker 1: to the Jets and they want you in the weight

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Speaker 1: room four days a week. You know, I mean, routines change.

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Speaker 1: That is not gonna fin That was the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: with Dan Marino and Dan and I talked about it.

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Speaker 1: I says, Hey, it ain't gonna be like it was. Dan.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna start OTAs like Tamar and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get in odd in the offseason program. Tamarrow, whoa coach.

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Speaker 1: I got offseason commitments, and I go. Dan had a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on, you can imagine, and it's

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Speaker 1: been that way. He deserved it for years, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden we were gonna change that. The routine

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Speaker 1: change in his mind, I think was as much as anything.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna play a part in this with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers at the end of the day, I truly

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Speaker 1: do Yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, you drafted Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: in the first round. At some point you have to pay.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to pay him before you've seen if

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Speaker 1: he can play and you know, he's a tough one

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Speaker 1: to sign. So because if you make a trade for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Okay, if I'm at the Jets, the packers

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Speaker 1: are gonna want multiple picks. Well, it can't be multiple picks.

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Speaker 1: This is a one year deal. In their minds, We'll

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Speaker 1: give you something for one year, and then if it

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Speaker 1: happens the next year, maybe we'll do something for the

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Speaker 1: next year. But I think it's a tough sell to

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Speaker 1: get somebody to give up a lot to get Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Think about it when you're when you're back of your mind,

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, this could be a one and done situation.

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Speaker 1: If he didn't like it at Green Bay whin an

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Speaker 1: MVP's you know, he could surely have a problem with

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Speaker 1: us with the new system and new players, a new city,

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Speaker 1: a new place to live, news media. I mean, so

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Speaker 1: it's a one year deal in my mind if I'm

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Speaker 1: on the other end thinking of giving up something for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. All right, Finally, where'd you go to dinner

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Speaker 1: last night in Chicago? Because I'm gonna be there in

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Speaker 1: a few weeks. You know. You know what's funny, You

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Speaker 1: and I love you can't go right? You and I

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Speaker 1: love the same two cities you and I love Chicago.

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Speaker 1: In Naples, Florida, it's my favorite. I love him. I

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Speaker 1: went to Cafano's over in Little Italy. Joey DeBono owns it.

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Speaker 1: It's been his grandfather started in nineteen thirty. Why can't

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Speaker 1: I go there? It's well, I was kidding you. I

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Speaker 1: was kidding you. You can definitely go there, Bet, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. The only thing about the finals, it's

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Speaker 1: it's my favorite Italian place. No menus. When the grandmother

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Speaker 1: used to write what they were cooking, she would write

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Speaker 1: it on the chalkboard, And right now there's chalkboards in there,

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Speaker 1: no menus to look at. And it's all cash. And

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Speaker 1: if you order a glass of wine, they bring it

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Speaker 1: to you in a little old glass and put the

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Speaker 1: bottle on a thing that you know what you're going

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Speaker 1: to get, you know what. So I'm going to Naples

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Speaker 1: next weekend. So I can't get into Truelocks. You'd think

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Speaker 1: i'd have some pull. I can't get into that damn place.

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Speaker 1: There's never an opening. You know, Naples. You can't get

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Speaker 1: into any restaurants. Where do you want to go? Text me?

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Speaker 1: I'm serious and today. She goes, is Dave Is Dave

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Speaker 1: and his wife going to be down there? And she

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I said, no, they're not.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking, because shit, Dave will get me

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Speaker 1: in anywhere nobody cares about him. Me. I'm a talk

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Speaker 1: show host. You're a former NFL coach. Oh, I know,

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Speaker 1: I lived there for twenty six years. I owned a restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Do Handsome Harries. That's it, true story to our audience.

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Speaker 1: So I was talking to Dave once and we were

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Speaker 1: talking about Naples and he goes, oh, I have a

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Speaker 1: place down there. I said, you know, my favorite place

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Speaker 1: to have a cocktail is Handsome Harry's. And Dave's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I owned it. I love that place. Yeah, yeah, here

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Speaker 1: we go. All right. Yeah, let me know when you

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Speaker 1: come to Chicago, we'll go to the Pantos. I'll take

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Speaker 1: you over there. All right, Good seeing the coach. Okay,

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