1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: This is the official podcast of the Rams dot com. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be your host every week. We'll try 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: to do this on Wednesdays. This week, I've got jab 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: along with me, is the voice of the Los Angeles Rams. 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: You can hear him every week across the RAMS Radio network. JB. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm doing great, and I'm really enjoying 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: seeing this new studio facility that you have at your disposal. 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: This looks fantastic. Yeah, and I've seen some of the 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: programming that you and Danny have done together in this 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: facility along with Coach Fisher, and boy, what a luxury 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: to be able to hang out in here with you. Yeah, 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having well, thank you for being here. No, 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: it's it's really great. I mean you can tell like 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: we're doing some more stuff in here, like with the 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: All twenty two for instance, that we just were not 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: able to do before, especially with that touch screen behind me. 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited about that. But I'm also really 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: excited about this because this is gonna be a chance 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: for us to just really talk ball and that's something 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: I love to do. So you know, we're gonna talk storylines, 22 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk XS and nose, and we're gonna look ahead, 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna look behind. But really, I just want to 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: have fun with this, and so that's what we're gonna 25 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: try to do today, and that's what we're gonna try 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: to do throughout the entire thing. So I guess let's 27 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: just start by looking back at that nine to three 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: victory the Rams got over the Seattle Seahawks. We can 29 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: start with the defensive end, because anytime, you know, you 30 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: only give up three points, I think the defense needs 31 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: to be commended on that. So I'll ask you, because 32 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: you're in the broadcast booth, can you get a sense 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: of how a defense is really gonna be good, you 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: know on any given day from the jump or what 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: was that sense for you? Well? I think Coach Fisher 36 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: put it best on his Coaches Show Monday. I think 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: he's had something. The effect of the defense all day 38 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: was arriving in a foul mood, you know, up to 39 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: that last force fumble, and there was an edge to him, 40 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: wasn't there. I mean, I think part of that is 41 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: responding to a subpart effort at San Francisco. Clearly, some 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: of it was riding the emotion of ninety thousand plus 43 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: people worth of support. So yes, I noticed that right away. 44 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: I thought LaMarcus Joiner was a big part of that. 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: I thought he had an early impact, you know, in 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: past coverage, but also in running support. Did a nice job, 47 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: and thank goodness, he put his Walmart career on hold 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: for at least one more season. But the other part 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: of it, too is, you know, I think even in warmups, 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: DeMarco far our sideline analysts noticed that Wilson was less 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: than one hundred percent, and as he took some hits 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: from that heavy Rams defense, I think that became more 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: and more apparent, and they they adjusted their scheme and 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: their attack accordingly, and he was a shadow of what 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: we've come to know. Russell Wilson asked, well, you know 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: what I thought it was interesting with Wilson is just 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the fact that even if he is limited, when they 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: when see us get into that two minute offense, they 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: can go and they can do whatever it seems like 60 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: almost they want to do. I mean that that coverage 61 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: that Troy Hill had on Tyler Lockett in that first 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: pass of that that went fifty six yards on a 63 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: two minute drill. I didn't think there was much that 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Troy Hill could have done that would have been better. 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: It's just that when Wilson is on, he's on, and 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: that was just the perfect kind of throw to Tyler 67 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Lockett there. Yeah, and he didn't play the whole second 68 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: half too, and we effectively thought he was done. And 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was catching punts and then Loan Behold as 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: they set up for that last possession, sixteen and wide 71 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: his back out there to fair catch. One. Kudos to 72 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Hecker for kicking all six of them inside the twenty 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: no returns. That was a big part of Sunday's win. 74 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: But if you could almost see the Seahawks, that's a 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: familiar territory for them. You know, Russell Wilson is the 76 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: king of the fourth quarter comeback. He's got nineteen of them, 77 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: which is more than any QB in the league since 78 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: he was drafted in twenty twelve. So it had a 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: familiar field to it. And then they hit that big 80 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: shot and it's almost like, man, that's not how this 81 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: is gonna end. Visit that, that's not how the two 82 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: sixteen home open of the return to la that's not 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: how this is going to happen, and then just a 84 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: couple of snaps later, it's elation. Yeah, exactly, And that's 85 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: what happens when you get Ogletree and Baron mean together. 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what was your vantage point on that fumble? 87 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: How did you call? What was that like for you 88 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: to be able to call that? Well appropriate in some 89 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: ways that in a grudge match, defensive struggle feel position game, 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: it's the defense that does win it, right. It's not 91 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: like to come from behind go ahead touchdown, which is 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: not emblematic of how that game was played at all. 93 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: It was the bone jarring collision with Baron and Ogletree arriving. 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: And I felt great for Alec. I mean, let me 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: start by saying, his ninety yards sprint down to hand 96 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: the football to his mother is a memory that I'll 97 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: never forget. I'm sure he won't either in his family. 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: But he was such a storyline coming into this season. 99 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been reading your stuff about Alec going 100 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: from safety outside linebacker and then outside linebacker to middle 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: linebacker and taking over for Laurenidas, who's the franchise is 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: leading tackler and not just the production but also the 103 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: leadership and then come to find out, you know, he's 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: the guy that brings the team together Saturday night before 105 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: the game, says Monday night football at Levi's. That's not 106 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: us to see him kind of come away, if not 107 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: with the game ball, at least with the symbolic game 108 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: ball and give it to his mother. Hey, that's a milestone. Yeah, 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: that is a milestone for the Los Angeles Rams well 110 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: for sure. And just the way that play unfolded. I 111 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: think we talked to Ogletree in the locker room and 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: he says, oh, you know, I might have even been 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: out of position where I was in coverage and then 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the ball comes and it's like, Okay, 115 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I see the ball, Gotta go hit it right. And 116 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: I think one of the things we've kind of had 117 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: a we haven't had a chance to see yet too 118 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: much of is Ogletree and Baron and their speed and 119 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: how that affects everything that the Rams can do defensively. 120 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean that to me, that was one of the 121 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: biggest storylines coming into this season is just the fact 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: that Okay, this Rams defense has had Lauren Idis, It's 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: it's had Mark Baron, doing what they've been able to 124 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: do last year. But how does the speed of Baron 125 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: and Obletree, how does that affect things? Well, I think 126 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: we saw it on Sunday because once Christy Michael gets 127 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: the ball and he's trying to go up the field, 128 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: he's trying to go away from Baron, and then all 129 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Ogletree just sees it and he says Noah, 130 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: and those guys both converge at the same time they 131 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: hit him. Ogletree does a really good job with his 132 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: left hand and just kind of like scooping it in 133 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: there and making sure the ball comes out. And then 134 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: once the ball is out, he has the presence of 135 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: mind to leap on that football and make sure that 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the Rams, you know, concealed this victory. So you're right, 137 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: that was a huge, huge thing for those guys, the 138 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: two linebackers and what's now the base Nickel defense for 139 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. But I think the only thing I would 140 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: add to that is it's the front four who allows 141 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: those guys to play so fast and so free. Like, Yeah, 142 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald grades out at an elite level again, Robert 143 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Quinn looks like Robert Quinn again, even t j. McDonald was, 144 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, coming down to the line of scrimmage and 145 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: impacting plays. I thought, so all the supplementary parts I 146 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: think allowed those two players to arrive at the football 147 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: in an angry fashion and clinch the home opener. Yeah, 148 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about this defense a little bit more too, 149 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: because what I've noticed in the scheme, and you know, 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: people talk to Fisher about this a little bit too, 151 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: is just the amount of different things that they're doing. 152 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: On this particular play where they had it, they were 153 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: Wilson is, you know, doing whatever he's doing. They're in 154 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: shotguns Seattle and the Rams come out and they're in 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: their thirty front, and what they're doing is they're using 156 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot of three safety sets, especially on third down 157 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: in these passing downs. And so now, you know, people 158 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: make a lot of oh my gosh, you know, they 159 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: cut a key mares as they're starting linebacker, what are 160 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: they going to do? But a lot of the time 161 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: what they're doing is kind of using either TJ. McDonald 162 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: sometimes as the sort of the third linebacker, LaMarcus Joyner 163 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: will kind of line up in there as well. And 164 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: so now when you get this thirty front, you see 165 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: three safeties, So Cody Davis is all the way in 166 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: the back, he's like the free safety way back there. 167 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: Maurice Alexander and TJ McDonald can line up on opposite sides. 168 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: There's just a lot of creative things that the Rams 169 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: can do defensively, and I think that helps them a 170 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: lot when you're just going against different quarterbacks and you're 171 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: showing them things that they haven't seen before. Yeah, not 172 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: to get too far ahead of ourselves, but I'm looking 173 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: forward to the test in Arizona week four, and I 174 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: say week four instead of this week, because with Doug 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Martin looking like he's gonna miss this week's game against 176 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, I'm curious as to how much of the 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Bucks can really come down hill, Yeah, and require the 178 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Rams to have that third linebacker out there. Josh Forrest 179 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: appeared to be a little bit wide eyed when he 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: got on the face. Dad Fisher said that, yeah, kind 181 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: of their normal package. So I think the versatility and 182 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the defensive back driven nature of the defense right now 183 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: plays well going to Tampa Bay, assuming that Winston is 184 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: going to bounce back and throw it. He had a 185 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: career high pass number of passing attempts last week. Granted 186 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: they were playing from behind, but to that you add 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: in E J. Gaines, who I think by design is 188 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be your starting corner opposite. True, yes, and 189 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: maybe that whole that whole group just kind of collectively 190 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: takes another step forward, you would hope so. And and 191 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: I think one of the good things that we saw 192 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: about that game was we brought him up earlier, Troy 193 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: Hill sort of start to emerge as an option on 194 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: the outside opposite Truemain Johnson. And Troy is a young 195 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: he's a young guy. He's a young cornerback, and a 196 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: lot of people don't necessarily know who he is. And 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, I have people tweet me during the game 198 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: like where Troy Hill? Where'd he come from? And it's 199 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: partially because he arrived with the Rams at the very 200 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: very end of last season, like I'm talking as late 201 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: as it could possibly have been during the regular season 202 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: for him to latch on. And now he's had a 203 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: really good camp. He's doing good things on the outside. 204 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: And I thought that even though you know, Russell Wilson 205 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: started to target him, he quitted himself pretty nicely, you know, 206 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: in that game against the Seahawks, there. Remember the preseason 207 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs when Macklin and Right get into 208 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: it and they get talk yes, yeah, and Hill gets 209 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: thrown into a red zone situation yeah, and I think 210 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Alex Smith and the chief just kind of go right, yeah, 211 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: let's go, and he stood tall. Yeah, And so that's 212 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: when he first caught my attention. Probably helped earn his 213 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: spot on the fifty three there. Cramping, it seemed like 214 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: was an issue and the heat at the Coliseum, but 215 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: he could be a valuable piece to that secondary, no doubt, 216 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: and again identified by Russell Wilson as someone that they're 217 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: going to go at. Got that matchup with Lockett. So yeah, 218 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: it's Look, it's a work in progress and you need 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: more options. And I think the good news for the 220 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Rams right now is they are healthier than their opponents. 221 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: They're healthier than Seattle was, They're going to be healthier 222 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: than Tampa Bay this week, and hopefully they're trending into 223 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: direction where they're getting pieces like Pharaoh and like Nelson 224 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Spruce and like EJ Back, while teams like the Buccaneers 225 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: are dealing with losing three starting skill guys and maybe 226 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman here. They are in week three, Yeah, 227 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: and that can be really tough. So you brought up 228 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: two guys who could probably help the offense. Let's talk 229 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: about these offensive issues, because yes, the Rams one, they 230 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: did some better things offensively, like sustaining drives. We can 231 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: start with the fact that they did not have a 232 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: three and out in the second half. Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, 233 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: it is, you know, because they had I think an 234 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: eight play drive in the third quarter, and the Seahawks 235 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: actually control most of the clock in there, but then 236 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter they also had longer drives. I 237 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: think the fewest plays they had in the drive was five. 238 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: So once you're talking about that, it's you know, it's 239 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: baby steps, but that it is a positive when you 240 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: can say that there are no three and outs in 241 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: the second half, So we can start there. Yeah, I 242 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: think one of those drives, it may even be the 243 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: one you're referring to start it at their own five 244 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: yard line, and even though points didn't come out of it, 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: they got across midfield. They tilted the balance of fuel position, 246 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: and I thought that was key to protecting their their 247 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: leads the second half. One other thing I got to 248 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: point out, and I hate to be like a point 249 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: to finger at the rest guy. But the Rams probably 250 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: do have a touchdown to their credit. If Richard Sherman 251 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: gets flagged for pass interference in the end zone on 252 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the outbreaking from Kenny Britt, that was by every definition 253 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: of blown call. If if he doesn't reach across the 254 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: shoulder pad or whatever, Kenny probably makes the touchdown catch. 255 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: And even if the flag comes down, its first and 256 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: goal and it curly likely plunges in. So yeah, um, 257 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: look on the on the silver lining no turnovers I 258 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: think was key, absolutely, but it's I think it's about 259 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: staying on schedule, having fewer third downs, period, but also 260 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: shorter yardage to go on third down. Um. I did 261 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: a quick bit of research here last in terms of 262 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: third down conversion in the league right now, and part 263 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: of that is the fact that they've got more than 264 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: seven yards to go on average on the YEP. That 265 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: sounds a lot like yeah, a lot of stemming stemming 266 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: back to San Francisco and hopefully they're making some adjustments there. 267 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: But it's all in a related right, I mean, it's 268 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: it's all part of why Todd Curley hasn't quite broken 269 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: the big one on the ground yet. While he hasn't 270 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: put together on a a hundred yard game yet. They need 271 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: more offensive snaps, they need more third down conversions, and 272 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: again accordingly, they need more first down opportunities. Yeah, for sure. 273 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean you look at what they did on third 274 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: down in this particular game. There were three at twelve. 275 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: You know, that's twenty five on the opposite side of that, 276 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: and this is good for the defense. The Seahawks were 277 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: only four at thirty one. I mean, you look, it's 278 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: funny I put this in I think five takeaways. You 279 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: look at the stat sheet, there are so many similarities 280 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: between the way the Seahawks played and the Rams played. 281 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: It's like very very kind of scary. I don't remember 282 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: seeing like third down offense efficiency, first down like netyards, 283 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: rushing offensive plays, all these different things being so similar. 284 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: And I think it just goes back to how the 285 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: Rams and Seahawks just match up very well against each 286 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: other and they know each other. Yeah. Coach Fisher actually 287 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: pointed to something that I thought was interesting, and he 288 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: was asked to kind of comment on the blowout loss 289 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: that Tampa Bay suffered in Arizona. They're calling it the 290 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: Debacle in the Desert in the Sunshine State. But he said, 291 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: to win against the NFC West, you have to have 292 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: some level of familiarity with the division that Tampa Bay 293 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: just didn't really have with Arizona. And he thought that 294 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: was evident. So I bring that up to say that 295 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: this is the other end of the spectrum, right, the 296 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: intimate familiarity that the Seahawks and the Rams have. And 297 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I saw the comparison that you're talking about, 298 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: the statistical like mirror image Seahawks and Rams. I thought 299 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: that was well done by you. And yeah, look a 300 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: short week going to Seattle later this season, you can 301 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: already forecast what that's going to look because of how 302 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: this one went. Yeah, probably about the exact same, probably 303 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: with some rain though instead any heat of southern California 304 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: half the temperature and probably some weather. You're right, Yeah, 305 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: for sure, let's get Let's get back to this offense though, 306 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things you brought up 307 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: that is true what the Rams did not capitalize on 308 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: the opportunities they had in the end zone, and so 309 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: that that play that you're talking about with Sherman and 310 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Brett Keenum said it after the game that he's got 311 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: to get the ball there anyway, because no matter what, 312 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, even if Richard Sherman does do that, well, 313 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: if that's a better ball, hey maybe Keenom excuse me, 314 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: Kenny Britt is able to still make a play. And 315 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: so yes, Keenum also said, no, I like touchdowns, but 316 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: I love winning, and so yes, it's always better to 317 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: correct after a wins given than it is with a loss. 318 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: But at a certain point, the Rams just have got 319 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: to be able to get into the end zone. And 320 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: I think that's just the one thing they have to 321 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: be focused on this week. Yeah, I tend to spend 322 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: it positive. That's just my nature, and I think, look, 323 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: they're one and one and they're going through a very difficult, 324 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: road heavy stretch of their season. And who's really had 325 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: a great game so far on that side of the football, 326 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: Lance Kenny. Yeah, but like almost nothing from Tavon so far. 327 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: You know, cases has not rated well, they haven't got 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: girly going, so you know it's gonna come, you know, 329 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: whether it's like having a camp out in the end 330 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: zone and just refamiliarizing themselves with that ten yards of territory. 331 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Like Jeff Fisher suggested, his offensive unit to do this 332 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: week in practice. Look, maybe it's special teams or defense 333 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: that breaks the ice. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised 334 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: at all if in Tampa Bay. You know, it's a 335 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: kick return or punt return for a touchdown. Maybe it's 336 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: a pick six. It's just something that's going to break 337 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: the ice. And then I think they're going to start 338 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: to flow. Yeah, I think so too. But you know, 339 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: we still have seen some positive plays. We can talk 340 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: about one of them that that forty four yard passed 341 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: down the field of Lance Kendricks. Yeah, I love that 342 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: was really nice. I thought it was a good play 343 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: design because I thought it took advantage of the fact 344 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: that the Rams do know the Seahawks very well because 345 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks they're gonna play cover three, and that when that 346 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: top corner is matched up on Kenny Britt as he was, 347 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: it basically signals, Okay, you're gonna have this one on 348 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: one matchup, right, And once that happens, Kenny Britt's kind 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: of like running them off and runs them to the 350 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: inside of the the numbers, and then Kendricks kind of gets 351 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: lost in that play action Towards the beginning of the 352 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: to the beginning of line of scrimmage and he's able 353 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: to go on the sort of backside of the flow 354 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: and then boom, he's wide open because everybody kind of 355 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: loses track of him. That's the kind of play design 356 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: that I think is creative and that the Rams can 357 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: kind of build upon going forward. I like the way 358 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: they use play action and the way they used it 359 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: early and normally you have to establish the run to 360 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: get a defense to respect your play action, right, well, 361 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: when you have thirty it's built in. Yeah, that respect 362 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: and that and that I think is really one of 363 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: the things that the Rams are just going to have 364 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: to deal with all year long, right the fact that, Okay, 365 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: everybody respects your run game and they respect it so 366 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: much that you just have to make plays on the outside. Unfortunately, 367 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: or maybe fortunately, I don't know. The only way it 368 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: seems like Gurley is going to get some good running 369 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: lanes is if the Rams allow is if the Rams 370 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: and make teams respect the passing game on the outside 371 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: and he got to the outside himself that nineteen yards. 372 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: You know, we're looking at the rushing totals on the 373 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: exclusively here, but that was an area of focus for 374 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Todd going from your one to year two, and that 375 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: was one of the more dynamic plays of Week two. 376 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: Back to Lance for just a second, because with Cook 377 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: moving on, I think a lot of the focus was 378 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: on drafting Higbee and he looked like, what did Todd 379 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: com baby? Yeah? Yeah, So you know he comes out, 380 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: he has a nice Week one of the preseason and 381 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: you can kind of see, you know, maybe less in 382 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: the Rams got a steal here in the draft and 383 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: got an undervalued player. He hasn't he hasn't shown up yet. 384 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: He got the quick two yard catch at San Francisco 385 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: and instead it's been Kendricks who's really I think filled 386 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: that void. And I think they need that from Lance, 387 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: and they also need a second tight end to step up, 388 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: because if you want to throw over the middle, in 389 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: addition to playing the perimeter like you're talking about, it 390 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: helps to be able to put you know, two to 391 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: one side or one on each end of the line. 392 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: And they're big, visible targets. So against a taller defensive 393 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: fronts like we saw from San Francisco, we know cases 394 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: in the tallest quarterback. I think it's a nice hybrid 395 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: to have those guys maybe pushing the seams and then 396 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Pharaoh and Tavon and you can see how it all 397 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: kind of comes to absolutely, and that's a part of 398 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: getting guys healthy. And really, I think it's only a 399 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: matter of time before we start to see Higby emerge, 400 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: because just seeing him every day at practice, every day 401 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: they do when they would do the seven on seven 402 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: drolls in the red zone, that that's Higbee time, right 403 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: Once you get down there and you can see this 404 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: big guy, this big bodied target, that's where he's going 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: to make a lot of plays. And I think it's 406 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: only a matter of time before we really start to 407 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: see him emerge. Like and excuse me for stirring anything up, 408 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing to this comment other than I think the 409 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: fact that they're in the same draft class and rookie 410 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks tend to benefit from having rookie tight ends, yes, 411 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: as talented pass catchers. If and when Jared Goff starts 412 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: taking snaps as the Rams quarterback, I think that's the 413 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: guy he's going to look for. I think so too. 414 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: And well, I don't think that's baseless to say that 415 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: we saw that in the preseason, right, you know, he's 416 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: trying to go to Higbee. I remember one time I 417 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: asked him in some press conference, you know, it seems 418 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: like you have good chemistry with this guy. Why is that? 419 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: And he first pointed to the fact that they were 420 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: roommates in training camp. So I don't know exactly how that, 421 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, can make you established chemistry on the field, 422 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: But I guess if you're studying together, if you can 423 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: bring you know, kind of a sense of trust that 424 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: you have off the field onto the field, that can't 425 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: hurt you. There are plenty of examples of kind of 426 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: quarterback tight end draft pairings. The one we're looking at 427 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: this weekend with Austin Seferian Jenkins and Jamis Host is 428 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: one that comes to mind. So again, just looking down 429 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: the road a little bit. You know, obviously we all 430 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: think and expect that Hayby can impact games while Case 431 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: is still a quarterback. And this is not to suggest 432 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: that Case isn't looking his way or would be hesitant 433 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: to throw on the football, not at all. I'm just 434 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: saying that long term, you can see how the pairing 435 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: of Jared and Tyler might work. All right, So before 436 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: we move on from this game, is one more thing 437 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: I want to talk about from this and this you 438 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: brought up Marcus Joinner earlier, and I thought he had 439 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: a really really good game too. One of the plays 440 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I thought was maybe the most impactful was when he 441 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: knocked the ball out of Doug Baldwin and it was 442 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: third and ten and they were toward midfield, and that's 443 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and so if he doesn't knock 444 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: that ball out there, it becomes what fourth and four, 445 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: fourth and five, and who knows, maybe the Seahawks go 446 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: for it there because they're close to midfield, and maybe 447 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: they get the drive going, and who knows, maybe they 448 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: score touchdown and we get a totally different game. I 449 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: think my back is still hurting on behalf of Doug 450 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: baldinum because of the hit that LaMarcus put between the 451 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: shoulder blades. Yes, no question, And so what with LaMarcus Joiner. 452 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: Though this was brought up on the TV broadcast and 453 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: then it also got brought up with you guys on 454 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: The Fisher Show on Monday Night. LaMarcus Joiner is playing 455 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: with a broken toe like that is very very painful, 456 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: and for him to be able to go out there 457 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: and still do what he's doing like that's very commendable. 458 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: I have blacked out and broken a coffee table carrying 459 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: a bowl of cereal in my own apartment. Simply dislocating atoes, wow, 460 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: much less breaking atoes. I have the utmost respect for 461 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: the pain that LaMarcus was able to play through. I 462 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: do not know how he managed to make that work 463 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: at the peak of competition. But yeah, that's all the 464 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: That's all I'll say about playing with a broken toe. Well, no, 465 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean that that wasn't. My next question was have 466 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: you ever broken a toe? And if you, if you 467 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: have not, maybe it was broken, but all I got 468 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: out of it was a spilt bowl of cheerios and 469 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: and a new coffee table. Well, I mean, yeah, those 470 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: things tend to happen. I don't know. I once when 471 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: I it was my twenty second birthday party. So I 472 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: was in college and it's already a good start. Well yeah, 473 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: and so you know, you're doing what college kids do. 474 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: You're having a party, You're having a good time or 475 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: playing music, and the Journey song Love and Touch and 476 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: Squeezing comes on, and I love that song. I think 477 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: it's an awesome song. Big Journey guy in general are 478 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: just that particular. Um, there are a few. There are 479 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: a few good Journey songs that I really really like that, 480 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: but that's one of them. And so you know when 481 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: the sea Perry goes, now it's your turn goal to 482 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: cry and then there's like a big boom, right, So 483 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, me being a twenty two year old, I 484 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: thought it was a great idea to kick a chair 485 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: and really emphasize them of that moment. And I don't 486 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: know that I broke any toes on that, but I 487 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: can tell you that, like my toes were hurting, not 488 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: the big one, but probably all of the rest of 489 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: them for a good month month and a half afterwards. 490 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: So I probably would not have wanted to play football 491 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: after that. So again, like I really want to commendual 492 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: Marcus Joyner for going out there pulling with broken toes 493 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: and a broken toe I should say, and making sure 494 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: that he is there for his teammates. I wanted to 495 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: commend you, but getting to Journey and a college story 496 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: in the first one half hour of the Between the 497 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Horns podcast that's well done by you. While we're doing 498 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: confessions and before we leave Sunday's game, there's a little 499 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: RAMS radio behind the scenes too that I thought I 500 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: could offer. It is we get off the air, and 501 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: I can just look at, you know, at our production 502 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: team that they just have guilty, kind of downtrodden looks 503 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: on their faces. And I'm thinking, man, didn't the RAM 504 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: just win the home Open or what's what's wrong with 505 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: you guys? And they kind of said, well, JB, this 506 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: happened during halftime. We're all having you know, the chili 507 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: dogs that the LA call seems no score. We didn't 508 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: want to tell you during the game. We thought it 509 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: might disrupt you. I'm just guys just laid on me. 510 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: What happened. They're like, well, you see your bag over there. 511 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: I just have like a brown leather whatever satchel that 512 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: I can put my papers in laptop in and there's 513 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: a big yellow mustard stay as a little little chili 514 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: to it. And I was like, folks, this could you 515 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: pick the best moment to mess with this bag? Because one, 516 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: I don't care, and too let's just enjoy the But subsequently, 517 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: we have decided that every win this season should be 518 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: commemorated by spilling some food or drink item on that bag, 519 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: just so we can see by the end of this 520 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: season what it looks like and then whether or not 521 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: someone in management will step up and replace it. Oh 522 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: there you go after this. Well, now you put that 523 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: out there publicly. So whoever is the big wig who's 524 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna buy JB a new bag at the end of 525 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: the season, please buy JB a new bag and buy 526 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: me one, two and we three. You've been to Raymond 527 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: James Stadium, you know? Yes I have, at least when 528 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: I was there covering the Bucks bananas foster. Yes, yes, 529 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: oh man, I hadn't even thought about that. No one 530 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: even watches the like from the two minute drill on 531 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: like everyone in the precious gets up and says, whatever 532 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: happens between now and that time, we'll figure it out, 533 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: and they go line up for bananas foster. So, should 534 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: the Rams get a win this week, I want to 535 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: have just a little cup of bananas foster to spill 536 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: on the bag. They don't look, don't make it a 537 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: big cup, you know, like I will. I would eat 538 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the bananas foster that would not be spilled on the bag. 539 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: So a funny story about that. Like, the last time 540 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: the Rams went to Raymond James was in twenty fourteen, 541 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: So this is like my second or third game covering 542 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: the team for the website and there was a big 543 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: rain delay, and so it was either right at the 544 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: end of the first half read at the beginning second, 545 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: I don't remember. But they brought out the bananas foster 546 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: and that was my first experience with the bananas foster there, 547 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: and everybody was kind of like, oh my gosh, it's 548 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: not halftime yet, what are we doing. But they brought 549 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: out the bananas fosters so they would keep the media 550 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: at Bay. Let's hope we keep lightning in weather at Bay. Yes, 551 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: because there's nothing more disrupted to a football game than 552 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: than a weather delay. All that. Yeah, I was in 553 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: South Florida when Skip Holtz, son of lou Holtz, and 554 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: the USF Bulls weathered several rain delays to beat my 555 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: alma mater, Notre Dame in the two thousand What would 556 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: that have been? Eleven opener? Ten opener? Yeah, I guess um. Anyway, 557 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: sorry to take the Between the Horns podcast and completely 558 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: derail it with okay, with Journey and food. Did I 559 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: derailed it with Journey? That's fine? Where did you plan 560 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: to go next? Well? Yeah, let's reset. This is the 561 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: Between the Lords podcast. I'm Miles Simson here with JB 562 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: Along and we're talking about this upcoming matchup now between 563 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So 564 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: the first question I always like to ask people that 565 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, may cover the team, may do whatever in 566 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: terms of media when it looks so when you're looking 567 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: at upcoming matchups, what scares you the most? Well, I 568 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: think it smiles. It's just the pendulum effect of the 569 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: NFL that we experience firsthand. You know, going from twenty 570 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: eight nothing at Levi's to ninety three at the Colosseum, 571 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: the margin for victory and the margin for air is 572 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: so so razor thin that any kind of mental motivational 573 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: competitive advantage I think is so valuable. And so the 574 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: fact that Tampa Bay has got a solid road win 575 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: in Atlanta and then just like we called it before, 576 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: a debacle in the Desert, that they're now coming home 577 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: to play their home opener, and they have a tremendous 578 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: sense of urgency because after Los Angeles they play the 579 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: two reigning conference champions, they get the Super Bowl participants 580 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: in Denver and then at Carolina next. So I think 581 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: the sentiments inside one Buck Place is this is if 582 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: not a must win I can't lose, and so that 583 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: concerns me. Just like when you get Jamis Winston coming 584 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: off a five turnover performance, you figure just by the 585 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: very nature, this thing is going to swing the other way, 586 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: which is not to say that it's going to be 587 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: a win necessarily for Tampa Bay, but that they're not 588 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: going to have anything even remotely resembling the effort that 589 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: they gave in Arizona. Right. Yeah, I think the biggest 590 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: thing with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and this is probably 591 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: going to be this way for the next fifteen years, 592 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: is always going to be Jameis Winston. That guy can 593 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: sling the football. And what I thought was interesting going 594 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: back to last year's matchup between the Rams and Tampa Bay, 595 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: which was referred to by Jameis Winston today in this 596 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: conference call as the catchup versus Mustard, it was very 597 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: colorful and Mustard, you know, team Mustard. You guys know 598 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I'm team Mustard. So that should have sponsored it. 599 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Only the Pittsburgh Steelers had been Yeah, exactly. But yeah, 600 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: so Jamis, I think he's gonna have a rebound game, 601 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. And one of the things 602 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: I noticed last year from him is just his ability 603 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: to make in game adjustments. I think what the Rams 604 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: did at the start of that was to show Jamis 605 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: all kinds of different looks that he probably had never 606 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: seen before. And Greg Williams, obviously defensive coordinator of the Rams, 607 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: he does a really good job of that regardless. But 608 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: you cannot keep Jamis down for too too long. Like 609 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: this game that was against the Cardinals in Week two. 610 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: I think that was an anomaly just because of his 611 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: ability to throw and his ability to bring teams back. 612 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: Did you see that clip of him that they had 613 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: when he was at that Florida State game, I think 614 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: in week one when he he was in the locker room. 615 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: If you haven't see that, no way he addressed the seminals. Yes, yeah, 616 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: So he was in the locker room and he's talking 617 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: to them and I can't remember who the seminals were 618 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: playing in week one, but doesn't matter. He basically called 619 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: them everybody out and he goes, we're not we're not puppies. 620 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: We some dogs, man, and like, that's just that's Jamis. 621 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: And so when he's on the field, when he's able 622 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: to use his crazy good leadership abilities, it's gonna be 623 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: a really hard You're gonna have a really hard time 624 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: of keeping him down throughout the entire game. You were 625 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: on the conference call out of town, with him, was it, Yes, 626 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: I read the quotes from that, so I'll just kind 627 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: of retie for this. It seemed like the trend of 628 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: questions was related to Jared Goff being a number one pick. Yeah, 629 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: it was, which I think is weird, But I mean, 630 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: obviously they're much different in terms of their style of quarterbacking. 631 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: But one of the I guess pearls of wisdom that 632 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 1: he would indirectly offer Jared is one of the one 633 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: of the priorities for him was winning over the locker room. Yes, 634 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: he's the number one pick, he's got the biggest paycheck. 635 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: He needs to find a way to relate to his teammates. 636 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: So that I'll kind of just lead you back into 637 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: that conversation and how important that is and how quickly 638 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: he's done it for them. Yeah, but that's just him. 639 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, even going back to that that was at 640 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: the BCS still when they won the championship. Yeah, yeah, 641 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: over Auburn, and then you know, you could just see 642 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: LaMarcus joining Yes, exactly, and you could just see all 643 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: these really strong leadership qualities. I think that's really respectable. 644 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: But it's not just the leadership, clearly, it's the way 645 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: he goes out on the field and he just does 646 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: it and he makes these really good throws. And one 647 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: of his best targets is Mike Evans. And when you 648 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: have a guy who is as big as Mike Evans 649 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: as I think he's six five, like two forty, got 650 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: crazy big wingspan, that's why you see Jameis Winston go 651 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: after the or go to this guy as much as 652 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: he does. I mean, if you look at last week, 653 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston targeted Mike Evans eighteen times. That's an incredible 654 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: amount of targets for one guy over the entire game, 655 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: and Mike Evans only ended up with six receptions, which 656 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: is I think tells you the sort of incongruity of 657 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: the way this matchup went well. And the fact that 658 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson is absolutely he had he had one of 659 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: what four interceptions. I think that Arizona pulled down off 660 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: off of Jamis Um. You know, I think it was 661 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: very clever of the Rams to go out and get 662 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Cody Sensible, specifically in the off season to play against 663 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston because if memory serves, he had to pick 664 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: six very first professional. Yeah, so I'm sure that Cody 665 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: at some point during warmups will have an opportunity to 666 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: maybe gray shoulders with Jamis and just let him know 667 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: that he's in the building on Sunday. But yeah, Evans 668 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: is a great piece. I think this week it's almost 669 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: more about what isn't there for Tampa Bay. We talked 670 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: alluded to, I think the Doug Martin injury, and man, 671 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: just across the NFL, what about the rational injuries for 672 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: two weeks ad Yeah, most notably the quarterback situations in 673 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland and doing don't remind me about that one anyway, 674 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: but two other injuries that I think are notable. And 675 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I did read that neither of these players practice today, 676 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: which is a pretty strong indication of where they're at 677 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: in terms of Week three. Cecil Shorts, who's also instrumental 678 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: in their return game, is likely down and then they're 679 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: kind of a downhill. Run blocking tight end Luke Stocker 680 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: as well, also injured in terms of a skill position player. 681 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: So this all kind of started with Jamis and what 682 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: he's able to do. Part of me is always concerned 683 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: when a quarterback kind of comes into a game thinking 684 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: that it's that's his game to win, because he does 685 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: have that ability not just throwing it, but scrambling and 686 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: picking up third downs to kind of take that on 687 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: his shoulders, take a team on his shoulders and win 688 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, so before we got started here, you're 689 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: sort of telling us about Gerald McCoy and how he 690 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: has sort of emerged into a player that maybe people 691 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think he could be before. Yeah. I was 692 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay when he was drafted and for his 693 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: first couple of seasons, and I actually knew him from 694 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: his days at Oklahoma and he was just a phenomenal, 695 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: like disruptive player in the Big twelve. But he was 696 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: a bit of a slow starter in the NFL. Part 697 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: of it is the position, in the role that he 698 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: was playing in that defense. Part of it was his 699 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: inability to stay healthy. But you know, as I left 700 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: in I guess twenty twelve, I did not expect Jerald 701 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: McCoy to be a perennial Pro Bowl player. I don't 702 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: think anyone did. I knew that he had the talent, 703 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: but whether or not he was going to be healthy 704 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: enough to put together sixteen game seasons that was very 705 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: much in doubt, and then here we kind of come 706 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 1: full circle. And so many of us in the Rams 707 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: organization have connections to Tampa Bay and you look up 708 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: and Jerald McCoy is one of the most dependable defensive 709 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: line players, you know, right there with Aaron Donald and Sue. Yeah, 710 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's really interesting now, just the simple 711 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: fact that he is really one of these premier defensive tackles. 712 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: When you talk about Donald, Sue, you know, Atkins in 713 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: since natty Ll koy is right there up with these guys. 714 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: And I think he just has this kind of ability 715 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: to go in the backfield and blow up run plays, 716 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: blow up your passing plays. And that's something that the 717 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: Rams offensive line is definitely gonna have to key in 718 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: on this week. It's going to be a big one 719 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: for the offensive line. And I think that they took 720 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: a step forward from Week one to Week two, and 721 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: I think it's really important that they take another one 722 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: from two. Absolutely. Look, you can load the box as 723 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: much as you want in the NFL, you still need 724 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: to be able to create running lanes for someone like Gurly. 725 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: Your question originally about what scares you about. This week's 726 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: matchup with Tampa Bay just brought something back to mine 727 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: as we switched to the defensive side of the football, 728 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: and that is they're one of three teams I think 729 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL that have not created a turnover yet again, 730 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: back to the pendulum thing, Yeah, they're going to be 731 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: out for the football that you know that their coaches 732 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: all week long are drilling that into that we've got 733 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: to create more possessions. So it's something that going on 734 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: the road again, I think the Rams offensive players, a 735 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: skill position players in particular, need to be really cognizant 736 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: of it. Well, yeah, especially with Mike Smith who's now 737 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. Of course, Tampa Bay has got sort 738 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: of a new coaching staff, but also sort of not 739 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, which is interesting because Dirt Cutter, 740 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: who was their head coach now he of course was 741 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator last year. And then yes for Levee 742 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: Smith who they parted ways with, Levey is now in 743 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: Illinois right as the head coach. Yes, and so now 744 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: what they've done is they got rid of Leslie Fraser 745 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. I think he's 746 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: the secondary coach. Now in Baltimore, you bring in Mike Smith, 747 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: who Cutter had some familiarity with because they were on 748 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: the same coaching staff in Jacksonville. And then also I 749 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: think Mike Smith brought him over to Atlanta and they 750 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: were working together as well. So these guys have familiarity, 751 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things. Mike Smith is a 752 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator. He doesn't necessarily have the pieces that 753 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: he's had in other places. They're still a pretty young group. 754 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: No linebacker or fifty eight gosh, and now his name 755 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: escapes me, but he's another one of those guys. Alexander Yes, 756 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: the most tackles in the NFL. Yes, And he's a 757 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: good young linebacker. He's a good young piece for Mike 758 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Smith to build a round down there. And he is 759 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys that's gonna be 760 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: matched up with Todd Gurley for renumbably, because you know, 761 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: when you get that middle linebacker, you can get that 762 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: running back. They're gonna have a lot of collisions. And 763 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest, if not the biggest, reasons 764 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: why Tampa Bay opponents are only averaging three yards per 765 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: carry on the ground and that's the Atlanta Falcons, and 766 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: that's a very good stable of running backs in Arizona. Yeah, 767 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: that they've played so far. Yeah, you know, that game 768 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: obviously did not go as well as they would have 769 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: liked in Arizona for Tampa Bay, but they didn't make 770 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: some good plays. They made some impact plays and I 771 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: think Alexander definitely made somes. But just to go back 772 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: to that nugget, like Arizona is dominating that game. I mean, 773 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: they're just pounding it from a big lead, and the 774 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: fact that you know, the season average through two games 775 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: is still just three yards. They're lowest in the NFL 776 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: in terms of run against average by Tampa Bay. I 777 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: think shows and you you've correctly identified the two kind 778 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: of spine pieces there, Gerald and Quan. Yeah. Um yeah, 779 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: it's look, these are kind of challenges you want you want, 780 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: right like when you're when you're identifying an area of 781 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: weakness in your offense that you're trying to improve week 782 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: to week. You don't want to go trample someone who 783 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: just can't handle that aspect because that gives you false results. 784 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: This will be a really good precursor, I think for 785 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: going back into the NFC West in Arizona in week four. Absolutely, 786 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: So let's let's talk a little bit about some of 787 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: the Rams injuries because we had some good news come 788 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: out of um. I guess we'll call it RAMS Park now. 789 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't know really what RAMS headquarters is that cal 790 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Uther is that what it is? Or I don't know. 791 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling it Rams Park now. So have you taken 792 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: have you taken a hike or a jog up the 793 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: hills behind? When do you think I have time to do? Yeah? 794 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: It was it was something I had hoped to do today. 795 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: So I was just going to pick your brain. You 796 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: ha done that. But you know, it's very picturesque up there. 797 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: I like it. It's cool. No, it's it's a great setting. 798 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: The field is kind of settling in the facility. You 799 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: have a great amount of respect for what the personnel, 800 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: the players, the coaches, the staff have done in the 801 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 1: last several months, adjusting to again news surrounding for sure. 802 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: So let's get back on track here with these these injuries. Nelson, Spruce, Farroll, Cooper, EJ. 803 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: Gaines had some good news come out about those guys. 804 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: I guess Monday it was when Fisher was at his 805 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: press conference and he said that there's a chance for 806 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: those guys to get back on the practice field this week, 807 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: not necessarily guaranteeing anything about their game availability, and we'll 808 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: know that probably more on Friday, but it's just good 809 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: to see those guys start to get back in it because, 810 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: as you said earlier, EJ. Gaines is really the starting 811 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: cornerback for this team, and he hasn't played a game 812 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: now in a really really long time. We're going all 813 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: the way back to Week sixteen of the twenty fourteen season, 814 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: and when you have Farrell, Cooper and Nelson Spruce, those 815 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: guys are guys who can be really good contributors to 816 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: the offense and help improved there. Yeah, if they're up 817 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: for this week, great, if they're able to just get 818 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: their feet wet and kind of knock off some of 819 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: that rust, so much the better. I mean, Farrell has 820 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: not played a lot of professional football, right, let's face it, 821 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: even with his limited availability the preseason. Nelson Spruce to 822 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: even a greater extent, and you've mentioned the time lapse 823 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: for EJ. But I think ahead of the receiving corps 824 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: in Week four at Arizona, and I think that's the 825 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: one where you really need EJ. F And then I 826 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: really like the roles that Nelson and Farrell can play 827 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: in this offense. You know, I covered Nelson in his 828 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: time at Colorado. He's the Pac twelves all the time 829 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: leading receiver. As we know. Was not the least bit 830 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: surprised that he carved out a niche for himself on 831 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: this fifty three man roster despite playing parts of what 832 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: just two quarters in the preseason. He's someone who's precise, 833 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: who's driven, he's motivated, he doesn't put the football on 834 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: the ground, and I think he's someone who can just elevate, 835 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, the whole receiving corps for Los Angeles. And 836 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: then Pharaoh, I mean, I don't even really need to 837 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: say anything. The look in the eyes of the coaches 838 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: who work with Pharaoh Cooper and the possibility of him 839 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: coming back trust me on this one. That says all 840 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: we need to know about his potential. I agree. And 841 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: it's funny, you know, talking to Pharaoh in the locker 842 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: room on Tuesday after practice. Basically he's ready, he feels 843 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: like he's ready to play, but he knows why he's 844 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: not able to play yet, because you know, you're in 845 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: that stage when you're injured and you think, man, I'm ready, 846 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, and I think that's where he is. 847 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's probably not completely healed 848 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: yet and so you've got to sort of temper that 849 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: and temper everything. But he said it's particularly frustrating for 850 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: him when he sees guys working every single day. These 851 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: are his teammates and he's not out there. I mean 852 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: for him and Nelson Spruce. Really talking to Hit, both 853 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: of those guys said that they've never really had to 854 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: deal with being injured before. And so when you're hurt 855 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: like that and it takes you out for what's your 856 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: first training camp into your first regular season, I imagine 857 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty tough mentally. Yeah, I just kind of go 858 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: back to the fact that that whole room needs to 859 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: be more competitive. It needs to be elevated. It's no 860 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: secret from where they were last year. To have some 861 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: new pieces join that group and push the whole entity 862 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: I think is necessary. And you can't talk about the 863 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: injury to Coop without remembering the play that led to 864 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: the injury for Coop, which is probably one of the 865 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: greatest catches in the twenty sixteen NFL preseason that he 866 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: made in Denver. So if that's a sign of what's 867 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: to come, I think it's worth forecasting when he might 868 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: be back on the field. Absolutely, all right, So let's 869 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: let's sort of start to wrap things up here a 870 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: little bit, at least previewing the game. What are some 871 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: of the things you would like to see from the 872 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: Rams offensively and defensively. I I'd like to see him 873 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: grabbing early lead again. I thought that was critical, you know, 874 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: getting the football after Seattle DeFord and taking it down 875 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: the field, getting case some rhythm throws. It just it 876 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: allows you to, I think, to come out and run 877 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: the scripted portion of your game plan without really being 878 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: concerned about, you know, field position or what the opposing 879 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: offense did early and how that impacted the score. I 880 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: would love to see the Rams get the first possession 881 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: and kind of establish that again and then playing from 882 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: the lead because I think that gets Gurley more carries. Yeah, 883 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: I really think he only needs We're talking about three 884 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: or four more carries per game than he received against 885 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers or the Seahawks before the two. 886 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: The three, the four turns into six, eight, ten, maybe 887 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 1: thirty and a yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you there. 888 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: I think at least for the offense, you gotta get 889 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: some stuff going in the passing game, because you know 890 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: that no matter what. And I think again it's gonna 891 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: be with every opponent. They're gonna come in and they're 892 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna say, we're not gonna let Todd Gurley beat us. 893 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: And so because of that, if you can get some 894 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: things going on the outside early with the Tavon Austin 895 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: with Kenny Britt, that's really gonna help things open up 896 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: on the inside with Todd Gurley and hey, maybe even 897 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: if you go up the scene like you were talking 898 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: about before with a guy like Tyler Higgy, with a 899 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: guy like Lance Kendricks, then those things are probably going 900 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: to help take care of themselves. And then I guess defensively, 901 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: you know, talk to Truemain Johnson a little bit in 902 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: the locker room on Tuesday afternoon as well, and I 903 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: think one of the things he said was that he's 904 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: looking forward to the challenge of playing Jamis Winston because 905 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: when you have a guy like that, you're gonna get opportunities, 906 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: you know. Jameis Winston again went to Mike Evans eighteen 907 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: times last game, and Mike Evans was mostly being covered 908 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: by Patrick Peterson, widely regarded as one of the best 909 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: corners in the league. So if we see that kind 910 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: of thing again, there's gonna be some opportunities for Truemain 911 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: Johnson to come down with a play. No. I think 912 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: it's a good point. And it's got to be exciting 913 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: to be a number one corner in the league no 914 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: matter what, because every team has a Mike Evans, right, 915 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: and so you just know going in that, especially against 916 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: an aggressive throw at you kind of quarterback like Jamis, 917 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: True's going to have his chances to get some hands 918 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: on some footballs. And you know, Patrick Peterson got his 919 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: interception last week and I'm for what the actual number is, 920 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: I can look it up here, but most interception since 921 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,959 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, which is True's rookie season. Richard Sherman leads 922 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: the way and then it's True and it's Patrick Peterson. 923 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: So I guess Peterson's totals now at sixteen and fifty. 924 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: So you know he wants to get level with ye right, 925 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: he wants to get his back. Um, if if I may, 926 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: I just threw this out on Twitter. This week. To 927 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: go back to the offense for a second. I'm just 928 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: curious if fans expect to touchdown this week, and if so, 929 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: how many um so close to one hundred responders so far, 930 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: seven percent do not think that they will get a touchdown, 931 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: twenty three percent think one touchdown, nearly fifty percent are 932 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: expecting two offensive touchdowns this week, and an optimistic twenty 933 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: one percent say three or more. Do you have a 934 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: sense on that or or alternatively, just to throw a 935 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: question at you, who do you think will be responsible 936 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,479 Speaker 1: for the first touchdown? Rams touch That's a good question. 937 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm a betting man, I would probably 938 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: say todd gurl, that's easy one. Yeah, yeah, because even 939 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: if you get down into the red zone, then that's 940 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: something that you know is going to be good. But 941 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: all right, here's my my dark horse. Yeah, give me 942 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: a true main Johnson. Yes, all right, so you're just 943 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: tying that all together, Yes, I am, and I kind 944 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: of I was talking to someone too. I think it's 945 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: going to be something funky. I think it a defensive score, 946 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: maybe a block field goal return. Maybe it's special teams 947 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: touchdown that kind of breaks the ice, or maybe it's 948 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: case Keenum running one in. Yeah, so I woke up 949 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: this morning thinking case scrambling or maybe in a little 950 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: QB draw out of the shotgun. Okay, we'll go, we'll 951 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: check back next week. All right, Well that happens, then 952 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: we were definitely going to come to you for the 953 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: lottery numbers. That's exactly what I'm getting. So all right, 954 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: but before we wrap this one up, since this is 955 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: the first one and it's the first time that you 956 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: are here with us, well let's do a couple getting 957 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: to know you questions. And I know I hate icebreakers, 958 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 1: like anybody knows me, Like I really really detest them. 959 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: But I guess we'll kind of, you know, maybe make 960 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: something work right now, just so that it's not really 961 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: an icebreaker, but like it's actually something that would break 962 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: the ice. So the first thing I think I'll ask 963 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,959 Speaker 1: you is why did you want to be the voice 964 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 1: of the la rams? Is there anyone listening who would 965 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: not want to be the voice of their end? And 966 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: I think of it as as a tremendous honor and 967 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: something that I always aspired to professionally, there's in our 968 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: industry there's nothing like being the voice of a team 969 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: because it allows you to an establish, hopefully a long 970 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: term relationship with a fan base that in a way 971 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: that say Joe Buck on Fox or someone else in 972 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: our profession is unable to because they're in a different 973 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: city doing a different matchup every week, and their their 974 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: job is to be impartial. And when I'm doing TV 975 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: on the college side, that's kind of what I've become 976 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: accustomed to as well. Whether you win or lose, your 977 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: dinner tastes the same um and and there's something about 978 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: that that's nice and that's comfortable. But if you're a competitor, 979 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: and if if you've ever had team affiliation, if you've 980 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: ever played sports, you miss riding the highs and the lows. 981 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that there's been a better example 982 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: of that than what we've been through the first two weeks. 983 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: Nothing in the opener, and then winning your return to 984 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for the first time in twenty two years. 985 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: So uh, those things, in addition to staying in California 986 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: where I was born and raised, and joining the Rams 987 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: at just an incredible relaunching phase of their of their franchise, 988 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: it all it all made sense, obviously. I Mean, the 989 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: decision wasn't mine, believe you. But it all made sense 990 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: from my end. Excellent. All right, So, um, I'll ask 991 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: you another one. What is one of your favorite memories 992 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: that is a family friendly thing to share from your 993 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: time at Notre Dame. So obviously, if Notre Dame, it 994 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: has to do with football. Um, I'm not surprised. I 995 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: had the distinction of having four coaches in my four 996 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: years in South ben. I had the last year of 997 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 1: Bob Davey. He got fired. They brought in Georgio Leary, 998 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: his resume did not stand up. That didn't last very long. 999 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: They got Tyrone Williamham from Stanford and then they hired 1000 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss my last semester. So how many college students 1001 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: at a power football program or institution like Notre Dame 1002 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: could say they had four separate coaches? Off, we did 1003 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: not win many games, but yeah, that's probably what stands 1004 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: out from my time at Notre Dame. Don't wrap this 1005 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: up before I get a chance to throw on back 1006 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: at you, But okay, can you tell me when the 1007 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: time is approach? All right, Well, do do one for me, 1008 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: and then I'll ask you my last question, which is 1009 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: I've just decided is going to be like the best 1010 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: question ever for me? Okay, fair enough. So topic of 1011 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 1: conversation in the RAMS office this week has been pet peeves. 1012 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 1: Our czar of Broadcasting, Jory Hirsch, has been kind enough 1013 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: to share a few of them with me. Um. I 1014 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 1: think one interesting one that might appeal to our audience. 1015 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: The Starbucks cream milk sugar station. That is not. In 1016 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: Joy's mind, that is not a place to camp out. 1017 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: It's not no, that's true to fill up and go yes, 1018 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: And he almost feels like there should be a shot 1019 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: clock on the Starbucks cream is good. I like this idea. 1020 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: I'll share mine, and then I'm gonna pose it toll right. 1021 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: I actually have two because one just came up today. 1022 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 1: The baggage carousel should have a buffer zone at the airport, 1023 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: like it like for the bags or for the people, 1024 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 1: for the people, Okay, there is no reason that your 1025 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: knees need to be touching the baggage carousel until your 1026 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: bag comes on to the baggage carousel. If we all 1027 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: stand back three yards, we can all see our bag 1028 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: and we can all successfully grab our back. I feel 1029 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 1: like this is a much bigger problem at LAX than 1030 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: it has been at other air points of okay, And 1031 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: then we have an ice maker. And I didn't even 1032 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: realize that this was an actual thought or opinion that 1033 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: I had, But it struck me today that you know 1034 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: how an ice maker has a scoop in it, right? Yes? 1035 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: And if you are if you were to stick your cup, 1036 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: a clean cup into the ice maker and fill it 1037 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 1: with ice without using the scooper, that would be frowned 1038 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: upon because who wants your hand in their ice maker? 1039 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: But it struck me as odd that we're all okay 1040 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: with putting our hand on the scooper and then throwing 1041 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: the scooper back in with all of the ice forever. Well, 1042 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: there's a place that the scooper is supposed to be. Yes, 1043 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: there's there's a like, I don't I want to call 1044 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: a handle, but that's not what it is. It's like 1045 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: a spot there in there that is a little it's 1046 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: surrounded by a metal thing. As we now tell all 1047 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: the people that what our fellow employees, I do not 1048 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: know where that little metal thing. Oh so you're the culprit. 1049 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're gonna talk about pet peeves. My 1050 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: pet peeve is people who use the ice maker and 1051 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: don't know how surely Between the Horns podcast deserves an 1052 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: original pet peeve to help you. Oh, I have a 1053 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: lot of pet peeves. Um Man, this is harder than 1054 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: I would think it should be. Um I don't like 1055 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: it when people take a long time at Chipotle. That's 1056 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: a lame pet peeve, I feel like. But it is 1057 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: a pet peek. The only exception of that is if 1058 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: you want to shake up Chipotle. If you're like me 1059 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: and this is your third trip to Chipole this week 1060 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: and I like that, and you're trying to decide how 1061 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: you can freshen things up, that might cause a delay 1062 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: of game pedals exactly. There we go. All right, So 1063 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: here's here's the last question. And this is is I 1064 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: think very very vitally important for our relationship going forward. 1065 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: Jbay on a hot dog? Is catch up an acceptable condiment? 1066 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: Do you want my truthful answer or do you want 1067 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: my answer that will preserve this room? No, I want 1068 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: your truthful answer. I'm putting you on the spot, and 1069 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to embarrass you on Twitter if it's the 1070 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: wrong answer. I fully acknowledge and respect the standard of 1071 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: mustard and that hot dog traditionalists uphold that standard However, 1072 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: I think it's indisputable that ketch up also tastes very 1073 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: good and appropriate dog. Oh man. All right, but as 1074 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: we've discussed, well, chili dogs are the only appropriate form 1075 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: of RAMS hot dogs, and they should be spilled on 1076 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: anyone's back. All right, Well, there you have it. JB. 1077 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: Long is absolutely wrong about hot dogs, everybody. And with that, 1078 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: let's bring the first Between the Words podcast to a close. Jabe, 1079 00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: why don't you tell the people what you got going 1080 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: on next couple of days. Let's see Thursday has RAMS 1081 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: all Access on ESPN Los Angeles seven ten. You can 1082 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,479 Speaker 1: also use your ESPN at for that. DeMarco far Maurice Jones, 1083 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: Drew and I will preview a week three if you 1084 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: want some more of that content, and then we'll talk 1085 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: to you from Tampa Bay. Excellent. I'll be sure to 1086 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: check out RAMS Nation, RAMS three sixty, it's gonna beyond 1087 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: ABC seven this Saturday night at nine o'clock nine thirty. 1088 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: You can check those out, and we hope to see 1089 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 1: you at the next Rams game, which is not until October. 1090 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: We will see you there at the Coliseum, but until then, 1091 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: we'll check you out next Wednesday right here on the 1092 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: Between the Horns podcast. I'm Miles Simmons for JB. Long. 1093 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining me on this one. 1094 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 1: We will see you next week.